Pashinyan: Yerevan bought Su-30SM fighters without missiles from Russia

Yerevan bought Su-30SM fighters without missiles from Russia. They were also going to buy them, but they did not have time before the war.

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan stated this during a meeting with residents of the Aragatsotn region. The prime minister posted a video showing his trip on his Facebook page.

At the same time, he does not consider himself responsible for what happened, but blamed his predecessors for it.

You should buy airplanes so that we can buy missiles in time. Why the 26-year-old state did not have a fighter aviation?

- reproaches the previous leadership of Pashinyan.

Earlier, the ex-head of the military control service of the Armenian Defense Ministry Movses Hakobyan said about the purchase of Russian-made Su-30SM aircraft by Yerevan, not equipped with missiles. He noted that the Russian Federation does not send its air-to-air missiles to foreign countries, which have a range of 130 kilometers. The Armenian leadership then did not confirm his words.

Last month, Pashinyan's statement about the ineffectiveness of Iskander, which Yerevan allegedly used in Nagorno-Karabakh, caused a serious political crisis in the country. Then the leadership of the Armed Forces of Armenia demanded his resignation, which the prime minister regarded as an attempt at a military coup.

Comments

[Thrifty]

I suppose they wanted to get the rockets for free, or to buy "later" when soros hangs on the mountain? ??

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Thrifty

I suppose they wanted to get the rockets for free, or to buy "later" when soros hangs on the mountain? ??

So the journalists did not even realize that the plane is a platform for using weapons, and without a set of the necessary weapons it is useless ... I am amazed how Pashinyan is kept in power? Or do we not know everything?

[carstorm 11]

I think this is not clear to Prime Minister Pashinyan) and this makes it funny. To buy a platform and not arm it is an ingenious plan.

[Olgovich]

Quote: carstorm 11

... To buy a platform and not arm it is an ingenious plan.

Would have bought SCOOTERS then: it would have cost less and with the same result ...

[carstorm 11]

That's for sure. and what a savings ...

[Tatyana]

Quote: carstorm 11

I think this is not clear to Prime Minister Pashinyan) and this makes it funny. To buy a platform and not arm it is an ingenious plan.

Yes, not so naive Pashinyan!
Simply, instead of observing the sovereign national state interests, Pashinyan was busy in the Republic of Armenia promoting pro-American influence in Kakaz. He played with the United States at giving away the national interests of Armenia, like Gorbachev with the United States and the collective West.
Pashinyan's "sorosee" has no mind - he has no conscience and his masters' hands are tied.

In theory, the Armenians should be accused of high treason, arrested, tried and shot, so that others will not disdain! A traitor cannot be left in power.

[carstorm 11]

Something is hard to believe in this scenario. Although there is nothing to argue with on the case

[VyacheSeymour]

In theory, the Armenians should be accused of high treason, arrested, tried and shot, so that others will not disdain! A traitor cannot be left in power.

For more than 20 years before him, nothing was done in terms of military development, even after the 16th year. All this time, Armenia was left without the opportunity even to provide an honorary escort to arriving aircraft, not to mention the identification and escort of dubious aircraft.
devices ...
So, it was just that Pashinyan was at the wrong time and in the wrong place ... - apparently it was not for nothing that he was so easily surrendered power, apparently
foresaw something like that, or they were persuaded to do something for which they did not want to be responsible. But now they are in the forefront of patriotic all-round rotteners - after all, the hat is on fire at the thief!

[Piramidon]

Quote: carstorm 11

To buy a platform and not arm it is an ingenious plan.

Then to whine to the whole world about the 10% effectiveness of Russian weapons.

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan responded to the statement that the army was to use the Iskander tactical missile system in the war in Nagorno-Karabakh. He said the missiles "exploded by only 10%."

This is how it was intended. Aliyev should give him the title of Hero of Azerbaijan

[Yujanin]

To buy a platform and not arm it is an ingenious plan.

On the other hand, the maydanuts were delighted when Pashinyan announced this news to them.

[dauria]

So the journalists did not even realize that an airplane is a platform for using weapons, and without a set of the necessary weapons is useless ..

So it is useless with missiles if the country has not come to war. In fact, there was an internal police operation in Azerbaijan, in which Armenia is no sideways. What is Pashinyan talking about now? At the crucial moment, I decided to sit and not shine, now why cluck?
The same "Bayktar" - no missiles, not even a gun is needed. I flew nearby, but blew with the engines - you can break a concrete slab, not like this wunderwaffle.

[Vadim F]

the su-30 could not be used. firstly, the use from the territory of armenia - deprivation of the umbrella of the ODKB (you will not mark that they are of the Karabakh type), secondly, when taking off from the airfield, the fighters hit the sight of the Turkish aviation (avax grazes over Turkish territory) and they would be knocked down immediately after crossing the Armenian border the use of weapons (f-16 were on duty in Azerbaijan for a reason)

[carstorm 11]

If it had not been for purzhil, they would have safely taken off under our supervision.

[figwam]

At the same time, he does not consider himself responsible for what happened, but blamed his predecessors for it.

I chose it myself.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: figvam

At the same time, he does not consider himself responsible for what happened, but blamed his predecessors for it.

I chose it myself.

-New leaders blame the dead for everything ...... (leaders). (From the song) ..... USSR -said the new leader for many years, -Kaloshi could only do ........

[Atlant-1164]

rare bastard .. this is your Pashinyan !!

[Carat]

Quote: Atlant-1164

rare bastard .. this your Pashinyan !!

He is not ours.

[marchcat]

Pashinyan is just like Chubais, where you don't stick him out of everything.

[Viktor Afanasev]

Chubais on his own, alone - would have been in prison for a long time. There are many patrons above ...

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: Thrifty

I suppose they wanted to get the rockets for free, or to buy "later" when soros hangs on the mountain? ??

There were no planes at the right time, and the missiles for them were already there ..... It was not for nothing that Krasnoyarsk was supplied and flooded with Armenian Agdam and Madera, and the whole of Siberia, apparently ..... Red Isabella-p / s is not I used it, my beloved is happy with it ... His own, homemade has already ended, from the steppe cherry .......

[SSR]

Quote: Thrifty

I suppose they wanted to get rockets for free,

And what has the freebie to do with it?)))
These smart-asses did not recognize the NKR themselves, and were they going to fight for the NKR themselves?
Worm twists and turns.

Yerevan bought Su-30SM fighters without missiles from Russia. They were also going to buy them, but they did not have time before the war.

That is, Pashinyan was going to fight openly, Yerevan - Baku?
Here he is a balabolka))

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I suppose they wanted to get the rockets for free, or to buy "later" when soros hangs on the mountain? ??

You don't see the obvious. Pashinyan deliberately prepared to merge Karabakh (more precisely, they were preparing to merge Karabakh, so that later to tear Armenia away from Russia in an economic and political sense) and that is why he spent money, buying modern fighters without missiles, in large quantities old and useless air defense systems Osa- AKM in Jordan promising to modernize them, but not modernizing them, Iskander complexes that have never been used, that is, they spent money on things that could not help in the war for Karabakh.

But now he has an excuse - no matter how they simply did not have time to prepare for the war, although they tried, and the previous government is to blame.

There are elections in Armenia at the beginning of the summer, and I think Pashinyan will again have a majority. He has no alternative, the Armenians do not want the old stealing power. They will never return Karabakh anyway. And the majority of Armenians, I think, are even happy to give up Karabakh so that later Armenia can join NATO and the EU. Because they still think that this will somehow change their lives for the better.

The West (USA) actually outplayed Russia in this conflict, we are losing our economic ally - Armenia. Because after winning the elections, Pashinyan will drag Armenia dmlshe into NATO and the EU.

Our comrade friends (Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan) are fleeing from us. Simply because we are poorer than the West.

And poorer, because they shared the last piece with them. Instead of more actively developing the center, we, on the contrary, to the detriment of Russia, developed these republics by sending specialists there for resources, and now we have lost all this.

You have to make yourself richer. Everyone wants to be friends with the rich, and the kind we only use. Lukashenka alone has sucked out how many resources from Russia. Look at our regional cities of central Russia - Oryol, Ryazan and others, but this is the squalor of neither normal houses, nor roads without holes, nor schools near the house, not kindergartens, they could not remove the snow from the roads in winter this year, but there is nothing to say about the rest.

Yes, our citizens are already fleeing from Russia !!! We are dying out !!!

If this continues, in 20 years, when the export of oil and gas decreases, we will no longer have so much money and it will become even harder to live in Russia.

[tikhonov66]

"... Yes, our citizens are already fleeing from Russia !!! We are dying out !!!
.... "
- EVERYTHING IS LOST, CHEF !!!
The plaster is removed, the client is leaving !!!!
- AAAaaaaaa ...
eight-))))

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

What is funny you see in my words?

In 2020, we have about 200 people left the country, and the population decreased by 000 people !!!

But for example, we have been selling oil to Belarus for 25 years at the Russian price, and then he sells gasoline from it to Europe and Ukraine, and leaves the export duty for himself.

That is why Minsk is so clean, it is being removed at the expense of the money that Belarus receives by speculating on Russian resources. And so did all the former republics of the USSR.

Why do we need this ?!

How should you ask? And it's very simple - not to buy friendship of Belarus for discounts, but on the contrary, to sell oil only at the market price and gas and everything else, and, for example, to increase the capacity of an oil refinery in Ryazan - then in this seemingly wretched city there will be work and there will be additional non-taxes !!! People will have at least some hope for stability.

There is not a single road in Ryazan without holes, darkness and squalor are all around from the central streets to courtyards on the outskirts !!! There is no work, in general hell. And so in all our regions and republics.

This is what we get for this friendship. Resources are being pulled from us and this affects us in the most direct way !!!

In 20 years, we will not be able to export oil and it will get even worse. And if today we do not replace the economy on ourselves, producing most of the necessary goods at home, then our children will have nothing to buy a Korean vacuum cleaner or TV, let alone other things. And we will have to reduce the army and navy even more.

Continue the trends and see that losing 0,5 million a year, in 20 years we will be 10 million less, without a war. This is 7% of the population, that is, our consumption will decrease by 7% in nominal goods and services, that is, our economy will contract and it will continue to get worse and worse.

So, I don't see anything funny here and this is not panic, this is a statement of fact.

From friendship with Belarus, Ukraine, the Baltic states, the Transcaucasian and Central Asian republics, we have received nothing but losses and hatred on their part. They all spat at us and began to cooperate with our enemies, in the hope of "a barrel of jam and a packet of cookies."

Stop squandering the country !!! Stop buying the friendship of those who will betray us all the same. You have to make yourself richer !!! Not to buy MTZ tractors, but to make our own, to object to our factories, so that we have work, we have stability.

Then families will be more stable and children will give birth more and we will stop choosing.

And now we are flying into the abyss. Our women are ready to surrender to any foreigner, if only to go abroad into a beautiful life, and officials drag everything without fear of punishment, because they want their children to have everything and again abroad.

Here it is worth thinking, not laughing.

[apro]

Do they have money ???

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: apro

Do they have money ???

Why did Russia dolyary and euro-sanctions imposed on us, women can't buy high-quality tampons, I don't talk about machines and tools ....... We will pay for everything with drinks, but we will pay Western whiskey and brandy, we cannot let other alcoholic beverages let's become ... The demand for sugar is not due to tea drinking arises in the fall and winter-autumn homemade jams and compotes are cooked ... moonshine is allowed and there is a demand for it ...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: apro

Do they have money ???

Not at all. Therefore:

"To implement the deal with a CSTO ally, the Russian negotiators made serious concessions: not only allocated a loan, but also sold aircraft at domestic, not export prices"

https://www.interfax.ru/world/649094

Moscow and Yerevan signed a contract for the purchase of four multifunctional Su-30SM fighters, which the Armenian armed forces should receive already in 2020. As it became known to Kommersant, in order to implement the deal with an ally in the CSTO, the Russian negotiators made serious concessions: they not only provided a loan, but also sold the aircraft at domestic Russian prices, not export prices. This contract can be considered significant both for the Armenian authorities in general and for the Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan: for the first time in decades, the country's air forces acquire new rather than used aircraft.

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3868951

[Lech from Android.]

For some reason, Aliyev found time and money to prepare for the war, while Pashinyan did not have it ... children's excuses as always. Why then did his American friends not help him?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Lech from Android.

For some reason, Aliyev found time and money to prepare for the war,

The state budget of the RA is less than the military budget of Azerbaijan. Where is Zin's money?

[Viktor Afanasev]

Armenia is a much poorer country than Azerbaijan. And besides, the Turks sell weapons to Azerbaijanis on very favorable terms.
The Americans kept silent because here are the interests of Turkey, the NATO countries. If there were only a conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia, it is most likely that something was thrown at the Armenians ... Or maybe they would have climbed. I think they would not have abandoned the Base in Karabakh ...

[Lech from Android.]

The Armenian bastard all over the world has significant influence and money, so references to the advantage of Azerbaijan are not consistent.

[Viktor Afanasev]

Let's see some numbers:
Azerbaijan: Exports: $ 25,4 billion (2018) GDP $ 45,6 billion (2018, nominal)
Armenia: Exports: $ 2,1 billion (2017) GDP $ 12,4 billion (nominal, 2018)
The fact that Azerbaijan has decent gas and oil reserves already makes it the richest in the region (Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan).

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Let's see some numbers:
Azerbaijan: Exports: $ 25,4 billion (2018) GDP $ 45,6 billion (2018, nominal)
Armenia: Exports: $ 2,1 billion (2017) GDP $ 12,4 billion (nominal, 2018)
The fact that Azerbaijan has decent gas and oil reserves already makes it the richest in the region (Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan).

Everything is so, Azerbaijan is certainly richer than Armenia and more in terms of population, only this does not apply to the war in proportion.

The Armenians won the last war, although the conditions were the same. It was just that then the leader of Armenia wanted to defend Karabakh, and now Pashinyan wanted to give it up, so that later he could drag Armenia to NATO and the EU.

Pashinyan would like to secure Karabakh, then he found money for a hundred missiles for the Su-30, and instead of the old Jordanian Os-AKM, he would buy Armor and other new military systems.

Russia would sell everything to Armenia, and for its own credit and with big discounts.

A separate fund could have been made for donations to the needs of the army, before the war, and not when it began, so that there would be additional funds for the army and the purchase of everything necessary. For example, for the engineering equipment of positions in Karabakh. The Armenians would have chipped in, many of them who live abroad would donate their money for this.

And Pashinyan, on the contrary, did everything to disintegrate the army, dissipate resources for defense and ultimately do what the West supports it for - to give up Karabakh and tear Armenia away from Russia.

[Viktor Afanasev]

Nobody argues with this. Armenia could have tightened up, with a competent leadership ...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Armenian bastard all over the world has significant influence and money,

This did not affect the outcome of the war ...
The fact that Azerbaijan deoccupied all the districts around the NKR and half of the NKR itself is the merit of Azerbaijan and Turkey, that half of the NKR is not yet controlled by Azerbaijan and the hostilities have not moved to the territory of Armenia, this is thanks to Russia ...
Neither the Armenians nor their "lobby with money" had any influence on the outcome of the conflict ....
Yes, if there was an Armenian lobby, then Israeli Jews would supply their UAVs to the RA, and not to Azerbaijan ...

[sustav75]

With such hard-boiled people like Pashinyan, they can communicate and do business, only the same hard-boiled ones ...

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: sustav75

With such hard-boiled people like Pashinyan, they can communicate and do business, only the same hard-boiled ones ...

Amerikanov then grunted, is not Putin ?! Can you work on the HAIR DRYER or so, have you got the tops in the pre-trial detention center? If for a fool you had a time -do not answer me ......

[sustav75]

You seem to have no time limit! But you have a lot of foolishness! I answered you. Dismiss yourself, answer me ...

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: sustav75

You seem to have no time limit! But you have a lot of foolishness! I answered you. Dismiss yourself, answer me ...

Without a time limit, right ... They gave their foolishness in the zone, and not at the plant and factory ...

[taiga2018]

Not surprisingly, the defeat of Armenia in such a mess ...

[Vadim F]

well, it would be a defeat with a loud loss of 4 su-30cm ... who would be better off from this? Russians would still have to explain why Russian planes "screwed up"

[cniza]

At the same time, he does not consider himself responsible for what happened, but blamed his predecessors for it.

The situation is difficult there, let them figure it out, but the first person should always be responsible, and not blame the previous ones ...

[xorek]

Quote: cniza

The situation is difficult there, let them figure it out, but the first person should always be responsible, and not blame the previous ones ...

Okay, Victor spoke out, let them figure it out .. And this Pashinyan will continue to let fakes in the direction of Russia .. That is his task! And the Armenians have finished badly ..

[Maikcg]

But if they had bought the F-35 ... they would have added an aircraft carrier to the load with free missiles.

[Vasia Ivanov]

Pashinyan does all this deliberately, to please / (according to the previously approved plan (c) Gaidai) to his masters in Washington, who in turn are expanding their influence through the Turks, NATO allies, who in turn support Aliyev.
In short - "The pans are fighting, the forelocks of the slaves are cracking."

[carstorm 11]

Where are they expanding?) So they expanded that 2000 Russian soldiers got where they were not before?)

[xorek]

Quote: carstorm 11

Where are they expanding?) So they expanded that 2000 Russian soldiers got where they were not before?)

So yes, but there is a risk that they will be shot from both sides, and even a third will join .. And what are we going to do?

[carstorm 11]

This is their job actually. Be on the front end. What will happen? We'll see there. In 08, they frankly explained what happens to those who attack the peacekeepers.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: carstorm 11

This is their job actually. Be on the front end. What will happen? We'll see there. In 08, they frankly explained what happens to those who attack the peacekeepers.

My friend, I have no words ... Your living words ...

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: carstorm 11

Where are they expanding?) So they expanded that 2000 Russian soldiers got where they were not before?)

One thing ... the group member said beautifully !!!!!! Respect respect ...

[carstorm 11]

It is foolish to deny the facts.

[Dizel200]

As it is in Armenian. I felt something in the priest, send it to the other.

[xorek]

Again Pashinyan humiliates the army, as everything is familiar ... And those who died in the conflict were not identified, they just dug in .. Oh, the Armenians let you have a snake viper in power .. He will not calm down!

[Grognag]

and can you imagine the treachery of these Russians, it turned out that their fighters and tanks need to be refueled, and they also have different fuel, this next statement will be

[bbss]

Pashinyan has not yet completed his task - to go to Europe ... as part of Turkey.

[DEVIL LIFE'S]

All are not to blame, but I am not! Roughly his motto.

[Ros 56]

No missiles, this is tantamount to no planes. Or let them practice the piloting technique, if, of course, there is kerosene.

[Joker62]

Quote: carstorm 11

I think this is not clear to Prime Minister Pashinyan) and this makes it funny. To buy a platform and not arm it is an ingenious plan.

For what a cut!

[alex007i]

Su-30SM fighters without missiles.

It's like champagne without a cork - it won't shoot.

[Viktor Afanasev]

The problem is not only with them. We, too, are ruled by "philologists" who in technology and weapons, and in arithmetic, understand little ...
Pashinyan graduated from the Journalism Department of the Philological Faculty of the Yerevan State University.

[Alexilyin]

If the purchase of aircraft, and indeed any equipment, is assumed to be the purchase of appropriate weapons, equipment and funds for it. And all this is done in a complex. well, if competent people and specialists are engaged in it.

[Avior]

And who told you that the planes were purchased?

[Emil Azeri]

Pasha, the war is over, throw these missiles aside. We need to join hands and develop. Do you want missiles - Uncle Erdoğan makes good aircraft missiles, if you ask, we can sell you ..
If you are friends, we will develop. If again, hiding behind Ivan's back, you show us faces, you will get in the head.
The choice is yours.

[123456789]

“The old director retires and leaves the young successor three envelopes with the words: you will open the first on the first day in your new post, the second - in the middle of the term, and the third - before retirement. The successor did just that. In the first envelope was the advice "Get it all on me", in the second - "Promise people whatever they want", in the third - "Prepare three envelopes."

[alien308]

Missiles and shells for money was not? It's wrong to pay Armenia!

[Ovsigovets]

Nikol you would be silent in a rag already)))))) ... dancer mlyn with big beytsy

[outsider]

For those who do not know and do not understand: the Su-30SM against the "Bayraktar" made "of shit and sticks" does not require missiles at all - it will perfectly deal with any UAV with a short burst from a cannon. Or have you not bought the shells either? They are inexpensive ... For a wagon of apricots, you can buy several charges for all four fighters ...

[Avior]

Without missiles, the Su30 would have become relatively easy prey for Azerbaijani Migs and the gun would not have helped him.
And the Azerbaijanis would have raised them when Su30 appeared.

[VyacheSeymour]

Without missiles, the Su30 would have become relatively easy prey for Azerbaijani Migs and the gun would not have helped him.
And the Azerbaijanis would have raised them when Su30 appeared.

Well, even without Migov, it’s like Buk, S-300, S-125, Stiletov in abundance, so that Sushki does not allow a cannon shot to the Bayraktar ...

[Reserve buildbat]

It's just that the insidious Russians have even the shells for the air cannons not the same as on the BMP, it turns out! So they didn't buy it.
And the rockets are expensive, the budget was not enough for them.

[Avior]

The budget was not enough for the planes, they were given free of charge, on credit ...

[bobba94]

Oh, what a bad Pashinyan. In May 2018, he was elected prime minister, he had two and a half years to prepare for the events in Karabakh. Of course, one could ask, what have they been doing since 1991, the year of the creation of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, all the prime ministers and presidents of Armenia before Pashinyan, what have they been doing all these 27 years ... he is so comfortable ... and he is a magpie, and a former journalist ... so you have to ask him ...

[Ovsigovets]

Without denying the possible negligence of his predecessors ... and what did Nikola do for 2,5 years? in the nose, apparently picking))) like no one by the horns in the premiere did not pull right? he walked himself ... he wanted the power himself)) and with power comes responsibility ... so let Nikolka answer for his "pro * b" himself, and not remembering up to 7 knees back)))

[rotfuks]

Pashinyan seems to be hinting that if I buy a used car from my hands, then the previous owner of the car must supply me with gasoline and engine oil for many years.

[faterdom]

And a 10% solution of Iskadera.
We have no pillow, no blanket.
Gorbachev is the father of the Pashinyans, who really want to become "commanders-in-chief," and then tell them that they have a long T-shirt.

[ramzay21]

They were simply bought for parades and escorts of European aircraft.

[Evil 55]

Some kind of utter nonsense ... You can't buy a castrated bull for breeding ... Although lately, the inconsistency and unpredictability of the Armenian authorities could lead to such a result.