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Israeli Defense Minister: We Are Ready To Stop Iran From Developing Nuclear Weapons With Which It Is Going To Destroy Us

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Israel has a plan of strikes against Iranian targets in case Tehran seeks to escalate its nuclear ambitions. If need be, Israel will act on its own and defend itself.


This statement was made by the head of the Israeli Defense Ministry, Benny Gantz, in an interview with the journalists of the American television channel Fox News.

He said that the authorities and the military are ready to prevent Iran from creating a nuclear weaponwith which he is going to destroy Israel.

In addition, Beni Gantz, in a conversation with a Fox News correspondent, showed a map of Lebanon, which indicates the places where the anti-aircraft missile systems of the pro-Iranian movement Hezbollah are located and the ground forces created at the initiative of Tehran are located.

This is a goal map. We have checked each of them from a management and security point of view.

- he said.

The Israeli minister’s words are a reaction to the US President Joe Biden’s administration considering the possibility of returning to the nuclear deal with Iran, which was concluded in 2015. In 2018, Trump pulled the United States out of the deal.

Earlier, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Vice President of the United States Kamala Harris that Israel is interested in Tehran's refusal to develop nuclear weapons designed to destroy his country.
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  1. Cowbra
    Cowbra 7 March 2021 10: 32
    +1
    ... only Iran has China as its allies, and in light of the program for the development of Iran's oil and gas production and transport infrastructure, for which China is going to allocate up to $ 500 billion, China will protect investments, and Iran is not toothless, so Israel is not even a cockroach under a slipper, and a louse in a blacksmith press. Although there is reason for optimism -
    "As the i24 channel reported the other day, Israel, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are negotiating to create a military alliance. It is not difficult to guess against whom."
    ... but with the connection of China, the forces are incommensurable. And the United States will not help if someone has not noticed
    "America has experienced a global post-industrial trans-corporate revolution. Global multinational corporations have taken over the institution of the state."
    1. Kaman
      Kaman 7 March 2021 10: 36
      +8
      Israeli Jews have one secret weapon: they have nowhere to run.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 7 March 2021 10: 37
        -8
        This has already happened once. I remember that it ended in destroyed Jerusalem, and the land was sprinkled abundantly with salt
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 7 March 2021 11: 15
          0
          Quote: Cowbra
          This has already happened once. I remember that it ended in destroyed Jerusalem, and the land was sprinkled abundantly with salt

          They have something to fear, but I think that on the part of Russia, Iran will have fewer chances to do something that is not thought out. By the way, Jewish diasporas also live in Iran, I don't know if they are allies to Iran or Israel, here the Jews themselves must tell.
        2. 113262a
          113262a 7 March 2021 11: 21
          -1
          Now, instead of salt, there will be chlorine and Domestos!
        3. 3danimal
          3danimal 8 March 2021 14: 44
          0
          And what about the "sprinklers" after the use of nuclear weapons? And in this context, is the game worth the candle?
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 8 March 2021 14: 47
            -1
            As with the previous ones, they will be an empire. And the salted will again run around the world in search of the fifth corner, because China, an ally of Iran, has more nuclear weapons
      2. Thrifty
        Thrifty 7 March 2021 11: 29
        -1
        Kaman - they can flee to the states, there they will be received with open arms. ..probably. ...
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 7 March 2021 15: 23
          0
          Quote: Thrifty
          can flee to the states, there they will be welcomed with open arms. ..probably

          It used to be fashionable to be a Jew, now it is no longer. Now the trend is blacks, Latinos, Asians, as well as transgender people and other lgbt. And the world's Jewish capital will not help, but this, as you know, is a conspiracy theory. lol
      3. aszzz888
        aszzz888 7 March 2021 11: 56
        0
        Kaman (Kaman)
        Today, 10: 36
        NEW

        +3
        Israeli Jews have one secret weapon: they have nowhere to run.
        And the desert! wink
        1. Ugochaves
          Ugochaves 7 March 2021 16: 55
          0
          Will they roam the desert for 40 years again? bully with modern technology, let's say it's difficult ... If only the Hasidim ...
      4. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 7 March 2021 13: 21
        -1
        Most of the planet, there is a lot to drape! Just, would the Israelites want to flee? hi
      5. orionvitt
        orionvitt 7 March 2021 15: 15
        -4
        .
        Quote: Kaman
        Israeli Jews have one secret weapon: they have nowhere to run.
        Then I see that there are no Jews in the world anywhere, in any country in the world. laughing Israel made a fatal mistake by starting to cuddle up against the entire Arab (Islamic) world. With the direct political and economic support of the United States, they could afford it. But now the West is beginning to drown in its own problems and will have no time for Israel. And time is on the side of Iran, they can wait, and then time will tell. But something tells me that it could end badly for the "promised land."
      6. iouris
        iouris 7 March 2021 15: 20
        +1
        Quote: Kaman
        they have nowhere to run

        There is. For example, in Zhmerinka.
      7. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 7 March 2021 17: 07
        +2
        As it is ... there is a whole Birobidzhan, with an autonomous region
    2. D16
      D16 7 March 2021 10: 40
      +10
      Earlier, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Vice President of the United States Kamala Harris that Israel is interested in Tehran's refusal to develop nuclear weapons designed to destroy his country.

      He skillfully ignores the idea that nuclear weapons are being created by Iran to defend their country. laughing
      1. Kaman
        Kaman 7 March 2021 11: 27
        +9
        After the Holocaust, Jews have learned one most important lesson for themselves: when some ghoul in the world says that he wants to exterminate Jews, one must immediately and unconditionally believe in the seriousness of his intentions. And take appropriate action. When Islamic Pakistan was developing nuclear weapons, Israel did not interfere, because Pakistan does not care about Israel. When Iran, whose official policy is the destruction of Israel, seeks nuclear weapons, Israel will not stand idly by. It is better to stay alive and get the condemnation of all honest lads in the VO and all progressive mankind for the destruction of the "peaceful nuclear program of the freedom-loving Islamic Republic of Iran"
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 7 March 2021 12: 09
          -6
          When Iran, whose official policy is the destruction of Israel, seeks nuclear weapons, Israel will not stand idly by.

          I wonder how Iran will destroy Israel when millions of Muslims live there ... Jews are lying, as always, presenting their fantasies as reality.
          Now Israel has become much more aggressive than Hitler's Germany.
          1. zlinn
            zlinn 7 March 2021 12: 41
            +9
            Millions of Sunnis live there, Iran does not mind them
          2. Nix1986
            Nix1986 7 March 2021 13: 40
            +6
            It is necessary to turn on the head when comparing with Hitler that Israel has an analogue of the plan ost or raised a banner over the Eiffel Tower ?!
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 7 March 2021 13: 45
              -7
              that Israel has an analogue of the plan ost

              The occupation of the Golan ... the appropriation of Palestinian land ... isn't that the Ost plan ... the same thing.
              1. borberd
                borberd 7 March 2021 13: 55
                +10
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Occupation of the Golan ... appropriation of Palestinian land

                The occupation of the Golan came after several aggression by Syria. For such attacks the USSR seized V. Prussia, the Kurils, Karelia and Vyborg.
                The Palestinians are us, not the alien Arabs from Saudi, Iraq, Egypt. Therefore, they have no land here.
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 7 March 2021 15: 12
                  -4
                  Quote: borberd
                  Therefore, they have no land here.

                  The UN Security Council would disagree with you, which is confirmed by its resolution ...
                  1. borberd
                    borberd 7 March 2021 16: 09
                    +3
                    Resolution of the UN General Assembly A / RES / 68/262 also disagrees with you. So what?
                    1. Lara Croft
                      Lara Croft 7 March 2021 16: 12
                      -5
                      Quote: borberd
                      Resolution of the UN General Assembly A / RES / 68/262 also disagrees with you. So what?

                      The fact that the UN General Assembly resolution, in contrast to the UN Security Council resolution, is advisory and not mandatory, stupid people constantly confuse these differences, but speculate on this topic, hoping to deceive the kind and gullible members of the forum ...
                      1. borberd
                        borberd 7 March 2021 16: 23
                        +4
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        The fact that the UN General Assembly resolution, in contrast to the UN Security Council resolution, is advisory and not mandatory, stupid people constantly confuse these differences, but speculate on this topic, hoping to deceive the kind and gullible members of the forum ...

                        No, the stupid ones for some reason refer to the decisions of the UN when it is against Israel, and when the makaesh themselves in similar decisions of the same UN but against them. Then they start to play around and tell tales about binding resolutions. So, only the UN Security Council can issue binding resolutions, and not one came out against Israel. You should smoke the topic, so as not to introduce deception and undermine the trust of naive and gullible members of the forum. lol
                      2. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 7 March 2021 16: 31
                        -3
                        Quote: borberd
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        The fact that the UN General Assembly resolution, in contrast to UN Security Council resolutions wears advisory, not binding character, stupid ones constantly confuse these differences, but speculate on this topic, hoping to deceive the kind and gullible members of the forum ...

                        So, only the UN Security Council can issue binding resolutions

                        Which is what I wrote in the comment above ... laughing
                        and not one went out against Israel.

                        By no means, you will have to smoke ... although you smoke something already overbearing ...
                        On December 23, the UN Security Council demanded that Israel stop building settlements in the Palestinian territories. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu immediately announced his refusal to comply with the resolution.

                        https://topwar.ru/106769-tel-aviv-umenshil-ezhegodnyy-vznos-v-oon-iz-za-rezolyucii-o-poseleniyah.html
                      3. borberd
                        borberd 7 March 2021 16: 34
                        +3
                        Why then did the UN troops not come, where are the sanctions? There are none, because it is not a binding resolution. Keep on smoking the topic ... fool
                      4. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 7 March 2021 16: 45
                        -3
                        Quote: borberd
                        Why then did the UN troops not come, where are the sanctions?

                        Because these issues were not considered in the UN or, in your opinion, are the UN troop contingents and international sanctions being introduced by phone call?
                        Example:
                        October 14, 2006, after the first nuclear test in the DPRK, sanctions on Pyongyang were imposed by the UN Security Council. Resolution 1718 imposed an embargo on weapons, materials and equipment for missile or nuclear programs, luxury goods, freezing accounts and a travel ban on persons associated with the DPRK military industry. The UN Security Council expanded sanctions after nuclear tests in 2009, 2013, 2016, 2017 and 2018. Inspection of aircraft and ships, as well as DPRK diplomats was allowed.

                        https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3656849
                        because it is not a binding resolution. Keep on smoking the topic

                        As Gleb Zheglov said: "..... you are stubborn, stubbornness is the first sign of stupidity ...."
                        And as Volodya Sharapov used to say: "I can't talk to you anymore ....."
                      5. borberd
                        borberd 7 March 2021 17: 12
                        +3
                        And what does S. Korea have to do with it? I have the impression that we speak different languages. Have you ever read this resolution? Do you know what punitive measures it provides? Is it mandatory or what? You need to wind up a chumudan of cigarettes on the topic, one is clearly not enough laughing .
                      6. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 7 March 2021 17: 18
                        -4
                        Quote: borberd
                        And what does S. Korea have to do with it?

                        I gave it to you as an example, since you are in prostration regarding the issues and the procedure for the application of sanctions and UN troops, you have forgotten that you bleated here before, so let me remind you:
                        Why then did the UN troops not come, where are the sanctions?

                        However, the Russian Federation, on the basis of the UN Security Council resolution that you have not fulfilled, may impose unilateral sanctions against Israeli Jews ...
                        You need to wind up a chumudan of cigarettes on the topic, one is clearly not enough

                        I was right about Zheglov's words:
                        "..... you are stubborn, stubbornness is the first sign of stupidity ...."

                        Smoke your brooms and don't bother me ....
                      7. borberd
                        borberd 7 March 2021 18: 04
                        0
                        Okay, you don’t understand Russian, but I’ll try to explain it further. You stated
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        The fact that the UN General Assembly resolution, in contrast to the UN Security Council resolution, is advisory and not mandatory


                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        On December 23, the UN Security Council demanded that Israel stop building settlements in the Palestinian territories. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu immediately announced his refusal to comply with the resolution.


                        I asked what sanctions are provided for those who did not comply with this "binding" resolution for you. But you started to carry some kind of nonsense.

                        Israel sent the UN Security Council on foot and said that nothing would be done. And here is how Israel responded to those who voted for this "binding resolution"


                        Israel has recalled its ambassadors from Senegal and New Zealand for consultations. The economic aid to Senegal was terminated. The visit to Israel of the Prime Minister of Ukraine Volodymyr Groisman was canceled, during which an agreement was to be signed on providing another 20 thousand jobs to Ukrainians and on expanding military assistance to Ukraine [27]. Canceled meeting between Netanyahu and British Prime Minister Theresa May. US Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro has been summoned for the conversation. Out of 15 countries in the UN Security Council, notes were handed over to the ambassadors of 11 of them, since Israel does not have diplomatic relations with Venezuela and Malaysia, and the ambassadors of Senegal and New Zealand in Israel are only accredited, but are not there [28]. Israeli government ministers are prohibited from visiting all countries that voted in favor of the resolution. Canceled ministerial visits to Russia, Ukraine, Great Britain, Spain and Japan [29].

                        That is, in fact, the value of the UN Security Council resolution against Israel is equal to the value of the UN General Assembly Resolution A / RES / 68/262 against Russia. And your unwillingness to admit it looks ridiculous.
                      8. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 7 March 2021 18: 54
                        -4
                        Quote: borberd
                        Okay, you don’t understand Russian, but I’ll try to explain it further. You stated
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        The fact that the UN General Assembly resolution, in contrast to the UN Security Council resolution, is advisory and not mandatory


                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        On December 23, the UN Security Council demanded that Israel stop building settlements in the Palestinian territories. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu immediately announced his refusal to comply with the resolution.


                        I asked what sanctions are provided for those who did not comply with this "binding" resolution for you. But you started to carry some kind of nonsense.

                        Israel sent the UN Security Council on foot and said that nothing would be done. And here is how Israel responded to those who voted for this "binding resolution"


                        Israel has recalled its ambassadors from Senegal and New Zealand for consultations. The economic aid to Senegal was terminated. The visit to Israel of the Prime Minister of Ukraine Volodymyr Groisman was canceled, during which an agreement was to be signed on providing another 20 thousand jobs to Ukrainians and on expanding military assistance to Ukraine [27]. Canceled meeting between Netanyahu and British Prime Minister Theresa May. US Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro has been summoned for the conversation. Out of 15 countries in the UN Security Council, notes were handed over to the ambassadors of 11 of them, since Israel does not have diplomatic relations with Venezuela and Malaysia, and the ambassadors of Senegal and New Zealand in Israel are only accredited, but are not there [28]. Israeli government ministers are prohibited from visiting all countries that voted in favor of the resolution. Canceled ministerial visits to Russia, Ukraine, Great Britain, Spain and Japan [29].

                        That is, in fact, the value of the UN Security Council resolution against Israel is equal to the value of the UN General Assembly Resolution A / RES / 68/262 against Russia. And your unwillingness to admit it looks ridiculous.

                        Failure to prosecute does not absolve Israelis from the fact of criminal acts ...
                      9. borberd
                        borberd 8 March 2021 21: 22
                        0
                        Well, then, non-prosecution under the UN General Assembly Resolution A / RES / 68/262 does not exempt you from the fact of criminal actions on your part. Continue to refer to the infallibility and justice of the UN. good
  • Ugochaves
    Ugochaves 7 March 2021 17: 03
    0
    From what you have listed, only East Prussia got in the form of an indemnity. The rest returned where it should be, and not in full.
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 7 March 2021 13: 59
    +5
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    that Israel has an analogue of the plan ost

    The occupation of the Golan ... the appropriation of Palestinian land ... isn't that the Ost plan ... the same thing.

    1) Golan. The analogy is not true. Syria in the Arab-Israeli conflict:
    a) declared war on Israel;
    b) three times the first attacked its territory.
    2) The Palestinians are us Jews. Arab colonialists came there only in the 7th century AD.
    1. D16
      D16 7 March 2021 14: 25
      +4
      The Palestinians are us Jews. Arab colonialists came there only in the 7th century AD.

      If you follow your logic, then in the Americas there is no place for whites or blacks. lol
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 March 2021 15: 34
        -2
        Quote: D16
        The Palestinians are us Jews. Arab colonialists came there only in the 7th century AD.

        If you follow your logic, then in the Americas there is no place for whites or blacks. lol

        And not only in the Americas laughing
        1. D16
          D16 7 March 2021 15: 36
          +1
          And not only in the Americas laughing

          So maybe there is something wrong with the logic?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 7 March 2021 15: 58
            +1
            Quote: D16
            And not only in the Americas laughing

            So maybe there is something wrong with the logic?

            Why? It's like that lol
          2. D16
            D16 7 March 2021 16: 04
            0
            Not this way. In the 7th century there were no notaries and therefore all real estate transactions of that time are invalid laughing
          3. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 06
            -2
            That's right - Jews think so too good ))
  • clerk
    clerk 7 March 2021 18: 14
    +2
    ... The occupation of the Golan ... the appropriation of Palestinian land ... isn't that the Ost plan ... the same thing.
    Strictly speaking, no. Control of the Golan is control of the Jordan River, Israel's main source of fresh water. That is, it is a matter of Israel's strategic security. If in Russian analogies it is the control of the Baltics and the Karelian Isthmus at the beginning of WWII. The Finns could assure the USSR of their peacefulness and neutrality as much as they wanted, and there was a pact with Hitler, but "it is not intentions that are assessed, but opportunities" (c). And the UN resolutions and other rantings on the topic of who, in what century, the first and under what bush marked the territory - this is for propagandists. By the way, greetings from Crimea 2014. laughing
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 7 March 2021 13: 56
    +2
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    When Iran, whose official policy is the destruction of Israel, seeks nuclear weapons, Israel will not stand idly by.

    I wonder how Iran will destroy Israel when millions of Muslims live there ... Jews are lying, as always, presenting their fantasies as reality.
    Now Israel has become much more aggressive than Hitler's Germany.

    Shaw, did Hitler work on the Israeli "territory for peace" formula? lol
    1. D16
      D16 7 March 2021 14: 28
      +2
      Shaw, did Hitler work on the Israeli "territory for peace" formula? lol

      In 43-45m I would clearly not mind, but only opponents would not understand him laughing
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 March 2021 15: 35
        -2
        Quote: D16
        Shaw, did Hitler work on the Israeli "territory for peace" formula? lol

        In 43-45m I would clearly not mind, but only opponents would not understand him laughing

        Quite right - I think from mid-44 to 45.
        1. D16
          D16 7 March 2021 15: 39
          +2
          Not. From the end of the Citadel, it was clear that it was time to fall into the borders of the Reich and defend against the Anglo-Saxons.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 01
            -2
            From the Citadel and disembarkation in Sicily. But it is one thing to defend itself within the borders of the Reich, and another thing to give up already "German" territories such as the Sudetes, the western parts of Poland and, say, Alsace in exchange for peace. Those. ending the war, establishing diplomatic relations, etc.
            1. D16
              D16 7 March 2021 16: 07
              +3
              One might think that the Jews are offering in exchange for peace the territories redeemed before the First World War.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 49
                +1
                Heh. They offer the territories obtained during the repulses of the Arab aggression - the fact that the Arabs sold the Jewish land to the Jews at exorbitant prices, handsome men, of course, but they have already received their loot for it laughing
              2. D16
                D16 7 March 2021 17: 30
                +1
                In the Ottoman Empire, land was not sold to foreigners at all, so the legality of those transactions is questionable and no lawyer will prove the Jewishness of that land.
              3. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 37
                +3
                Even how they sold - the issue of citizenship was being resolved)).
                A lawyer will not prove it. It is more difficult with historians laughing
  • D16
    D16 7 March 2021 14: 19
    +2
    I wonder how Iran will destroy Israel

    Yes, no one there talked about the extermination of the Jews. It was about the STATE of Israel, with its foreign policy, Mossad, Holocaust Wishlist, etc.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 March 2021 15: 39
      -1
      Quote: D16
      I wonder how Iran will destroy Israel

      Yes, no one there talked about the extermination of the Jews. It was about the STATE of Israel, with its foreign policy, Mossad, Holocaust Wishlist, etc.

      What Wishlist for the Holocaust? The only Maidan in Israel was due to a protest against "diplomatic relations with the FRG in return for compensation" in the early 60s.
      The Germans (Westerners) needed this for an image helping to sell their goods and receive investments in the country, the government of the beggar then Israel helped absorb refugees from Arab countries and allocate money for the purchase of weapons
      1. D16
        D16 7 March 2021 15: 43
        +1
        And the FRG did not pay them anything?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 05
          +2
          After the establishment of diplomatic relations, they began to supply free coal, M-48 tanks (bypassing the American embargo on the sale of offensive weapons to Israel), machine tools, agricultural vehicles, etc.
          Personal compensation began to be paid much later, but this is not only to Jews and not only in Israel. Citizens of the former USSR, hijacked to work for the Nazis, also receive compensation from the FRG.
          1. D16
            D16 7 March 2021 16: 21
            -1
            Citizens of the former USSR, hijacked to work for the Nazis, also receive compensation from the FRG.

            Jews receiving compensation also all were forced to participate in the GDP of the European Reich?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 01
              -1
              Concentration camp and ghetto prisoners receive as driven away for forced labor
              1. D16
                D16 7 March 2021 17: 26
                +2
                Did the Soviet prisoners of concentration camps receive anything from the Federal Republic of Germany for forced labor?
              2. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 27
                -1
                I do not know this
              3. D16
                D16 7 March 2021 17: 33
                +2
                Not paid. Moreover, the FRG paid the Union nothing at all. Only the GDR. Although the entire European reich was invested in the destruction of its European part.
              4. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 36
                -2
                Personal payments began, if I'm not mistaken, in the mid-80s. And all of them. I don’t know the policy of the perestroika USSR in this matter.
                In the GDR - they took out from there to the fig of what. Then they invested more. Showcase of socialism ((.
              5. D16
                D16 7 March 2021 17: 47
                +2
                Showcase of socialism ((.

                In vain you. The country was normal compared to the Balts.
              6. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 51
                0
                Quote: D16
                Showcase of socialism ((.

                In vain you. The country was normal compared to the Balts.

                I do not argue. It was just not possible to create showcases when their people lived in communal apartments until the 90s. IMHO.
                In addition, they wanted to create a showcase - move Soviet Slavs there. Those left homeless were up to the figs. Just an outpost in a hostile environment.
              7. D16
                D16 7 March 2021 19: 13
                +3
                resettle the Soviet Slavs there. Those left homeless were up to the figs.

                The Slavs were there in the military towns and so it was overdofig. But no one would settle the Russians together with the Germans. There would be a new WWII started.
                It was just that there was no need to create showcases

                Ossie did a good job themselves.
              8. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 March 2021 20: 00
                -2
                Wouldn't start)).
                They traditionally work well, but the stupidity of the CMEA leadership led to the need for a large number of injections
              9. D16
                D16 7 March 2021 22: 30
                +1
                To be honest, I have never come across information about any infusions into the GDR. Usually about pouring out. And it is not customary for us to genocide the aborigines, and without this the settlers would not get along with the locals. They moved to the Kuril Islands, but there were no natives there either.
              10. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 8 March 2021 09: 40
                -1
                There were mad infusions. I read a lot. I have never read that the Russians were cutting someone off - the exception is the North Caucasus (Shapsug Cossacks), but everything was mutually beneficial there. I don’t know in the Kuril Islands, the Japanese were on Sakhalin, no one sawed them out, they were generally satisfied with the Soviet government, but then there was an agreement with Tokyo on their extradition to Japan.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 7 March 2021 19: 20
    +2
    Quote: D16
    Did the Soviet prisoners of concentration camps receive anything from the Federal Republic of Germany for forced labor?

    According to the report, the USSR seized property worth over 66 billion marks of the GDR ($ 15,8 billion) from its occupation zone and subsequently from the GDR. According to the General Trophy Administration, published in the 1990s by Russian researchers, in the USSR, in particular, 72 thousand wagons of building materials, about 3 thousand factories, 96 power plants, 340 thousand machine tools, 200 thousand electric motors, 1 million 335 thousand head of cattle, 2,3 million tons of grain. Deliveries from the western occupation zones due to reparations for the USSR ceased in 1949 after the creation of the Federal Republic of Germany.
    According to international relations (2005), the USSR received reparations totaling $ 3,081 billion (at the 1938 exchange rate), of which Poland accounted for $ 228 million (about 7,5%).
    Because all property in the USSR OWNED BY THE PEOPLE, THE CITIZENS WERE NOT RECEIVING PERSONAL COMPENSATION

    May 21, 2015 - The German Bundestag decided to pay a "symbolic cash benefit" in the amount of 2500 euros to former Soviet military personnel, who were in German captivity during the Second World War. But only 367 people got it.
  • D16
    D16 7 March 2021 19: 38
    +1
    And how many were seized and destroyed in the European part of the USSR was not included in this report?
    But only 367 people got it.

    That's it. They would have waited five years, and in general there would have been no one to pay.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 7 March 2021 20: 12
    0
    Quote: D16
    And how many were seized and destroyed in the European part of the USSR was not included in this report?

    The question is relevant, but you need to contact the following persons with it

    At the Yalta conference (February 4-11, 1945), the Soviet Union came up with a proposal to determine the total amount of reparations at $ 20 billion, of which 50% were to be paid in favor of the USSR, but it was not supported. It was decided to create a special allied commission to develop a plan for the recovery of reparations.
    According to the documents of the conference in Potsdam (Germany; July 17-August 2, 1945), reparations were to be expressed in material form (factories, machinery, equipment, inventories, as well as German investments abroad), in contrast to reparations after the First World War , which were identified and charged only in cash. The total amount of German property that the victorious countries could take out of their zones of occupation was not specified. It was indicated that the USSR would additionally receive from the zones occupied by the USA, Great Britain and France, approximately 25% of the dismantled equipment. Reparation claims of Poland had to be satisfied by the USSR from its share (it was planned that 15% would go to Poland). The rest of the members of the anti-Hitler coalition were to receive reparations from the western occupation zones.
    And B Stalin decided that it was enough to restore the country.
    AS YOU SEE, YOU WERE NOT CONSULTED.
    So you can stay with your opinion one on one.
  • D16
    D16 7 March 2021 22: 53
    +1
    AS YOU SEE, YOU WERE NOT CONSULTED.

    Yeah ... Late I was born ...
  • Kaman
    Kaman 7 March 2021 16: 11
    +6
    Iran is ready to fight Israel to the last Lebanese and Palestinian (especially since they are hated Sunnis). And the lives of Iranians are not important for their leadership. During the Iran-Iraq war, they sent their 15-year-old boys in front of their attacking troops to clear minefields in front of Iraqi positions. So dropping a vigorous bomb on Israel and on Jews and Arabs for Iran will not be any problem.
    1. D16
      D16 7 March 2021 16: 52
      +3
      Iran is ready to fight with Israel to the last Lebanese and Palestinian (especially since they are hated Sunnis)

      Are Iranian Shiites not at war with Ishil in Syria?
      So dropping a vigorous bomb on Israel and on Jews and Arabs will not be a problem for Iran.

      Do you take inspiration from the newspapers "Times of the Ochakovskys and the Conquest of the Crimea?" (C)
  • D16
    D16 7 March 2021 14: 12
    -1
    After the Holocaust, Jews have learned one of the most important lessons for themselves.

    They learned the wrong lesson. Instead of asking "For what?" they ask the question "How to do the same thing, but that there would be nothing for it?"
    when some ghoul in the world says he wants to exterminate the Jews

    Your ghoul was calibrated by not qualified specialists.
    When Islamic Pakistan was developing nuclear weapons,

    Before broadcasting on this topic, read about Pakistan's nuclear project and who the inspiration came from. Then talk about Israel's reaction to it.
    When Iran, whose official policy is to destroy Israel, seeks nuclear weapons

    There is a dog that barks loudly, and there is one that silently bites all the neighbors and does not repent of what they did. Which one deserves a stick? laughing
    By the way, many Jews live in the freedom-loving Islamic republic of Iran and no one is going to solve the "Jewish question" there. So it's not about the Jews, but about the politics of Israel.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 March 2021 15: 43
      +2
      1) And why did the Germans kill the Slavs during the war?
      2) And who trains, equips and finances Hezbollah and Hamas?
      3) So in Israel, Muslims are dumb, and neighbors by hook or by crook are trying to get the citizenship of a "reactionary country", but they are coming from Iran about the first opportunity, and the Persians))
      1. D16
        D16 7 March 2021 16: 46
        -4
        And why did the Germans kill the Slavs during the war?

        They lived on Osten. And there was Drag Nah.
        And who trains, arms and finances Hezbollah and Hamas?

        Have you tried not to break into Lebanon and Palestine, so as not to give a reason?
        Likewise, in Israel, Muslims are dumb, and neighbors by hook or by crook are trying to get the citizenship of a "reactionary country", but they are coming from Iran about the first opportunity, and the Persians))

        Not surprising. It’s strange that the Jews don’t run. In general, the people there are mobile. Traders.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 12
          +3
          1) Well, the Juden had to take away the gesheft (about a quarter of the business in Germany), and destroy the European peddlers of communism
          2) lol Palestine in the sense of Judea and Samaria? Such arrogance - as the Jews dare to break into Judea, not to mention the Felistima port of Gaza, which Egypt did not manage to hand back under the peace agreements - as a result, they themselves fled from there in 2005. laughing Lebanon - thanks to Syria for moving Arafat's bandits there after the failed seizure of power in Jordan.
          By the way, have you tried not to walk around your area late at night with a defiantly New iPhone, for example, thereby not provoking ...? ))
          3) Why is it strange - Israel overtook Japan in HDI in 2019. Traders - are you talking about the Jews? laughing
          Well, it’s definitely not “the warrior people”, by chance everyone around him was cut off from him, but so - yes, there is no “fighting spirit” lol
          1. D16
            D16 7 March 2021 18: 06
            +1
            1) Well, the Juden had to take away the gesheft (about a quarter of the business in Germany), and destroy the European peddlers of communism

            And in Kiev, they also wrestled Jewish business, or did they just want to shoot people with machine guns in Babi Yar?
            2) lol Palestine in the sense of Judea and Samaria? Such insolence - how dare the Jews break into Judea

            Did you have any real estate papers with you? laughing
            Lebanon - thanks to Syria for moving Arafat's bandits there after the failed seizure of power in Jordan.

            What have you forgotten there? And you are offended by Iran.
            By the way, have you tried not to walk around your area late at night with a defiantly New iPhone, for example, thereby not provoking ...? ))

            Nobody has robbed anyone for a long time. All the crooks on the internet. laughing Forgot the last time someone's car was stolen. Ten years have already passed.
            Traders - are you talking about the Jews? laughing

            Yes, about the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of the Middle East.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 7 March 2021 18: 20
              -3
              1) They killed the carriers of communist ideas, parasitically poisoning the Nordic peoples with internationalism, destroying the nation
              2) They bought it. And so - Flavius, Philo of Alexandria, Mark, Matthew, John, Luke - from the famous.
              3) Absolutely nothing. Lebanon was created by the French as a "state of Christian Arabs." With the arrival of the guys, Arafat became a springboard for artillery shelling of Israel and attacks of its civilians. Besides - to whom did he surrender, Lebanon? ))
              4) Over time, BV will become the same)) But - with time laughing
              5) In fact, since ancient times, the Arabs have considered two professions the most worthy of men - a warrior and a merchant. Somewhere I agree with them. Somewhere deep down laughing
              1. D16
                D16 7 March 2021 19: 32
                +4
                They killed the carriers of communist ideas, parasitically poisoning the Nordic peoples with internationalism, destroying the nation

                Were the gypsies also owners of tasty businesses or disseminators of communist ideas?
                They bought it.

                How can you legally buy something that is not for sale? The Ottoman Empire did not sell land to foreigners.
                With the arrival of the guys, Arafat became a springboard for shelling Israel and attacks of its civilians. Besides - to whom did he surrender, Lebanon? ))

                And the guys from the PLO materialized out of thin air, or from the occupied territories of Palestine?
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 7 March 2021 20: 09
                  0
                  1) Gypsies - were considered an ethnic criminal element. The mentally ill are a useless burden to the economy.
                  Slavs - an inferior race, representatives of which should be suppressed at the slightest sign of disobedience
                  Etc.
                  2) laughing The Ottoman Empire had the right to private property. In my memory, offhand, two major transactions for the purchase of Palestinian land by foreigners - Moses Montifiore (Jerusalem), Edmond Rothschild (vicinity of the Mediterranean coast), not far from Jaffa
                  3) From those who tried to squeeze out the lands they themselves sold to the Jews, on which the Zionists were able to build something sensible. The Arabs started the conflict, don't forget
                2. D16
                  D16 7 March 2021 21: 20
                  +2
                  The Ottoman Empire had the right to private property.

                  Professor of the University of Cambridge J. Gainsborough believes that the most fertile lands in Palestine were sold to Jews not by the absent Palestinian feudal lords, but by the authorities of the Ottoman Empire, in order to attract Jewish capital into the sacred economy of the region. Both the Turks and the Zionist leaders "were completely indifferent to the feelings and aspirations of the indigenous Arab population of Palestine ... Zionist colonization was viewed by the local Arabs as a threat, and to a large extent it was she who gave impetus to the strengthening of Palestinian nationalism" [24, p. four].
                  https://pandia.ru/text/77/298/96342.php
                  That's the reason for you
                  The Arabs started the conflict, don't forget

                  Some sold what they had no right to sell, others drove the locals off the land.
                3. andreykolesov123
                  andreykolesov123 8 March 2021 08: 22
                  0
                  Quote: D16
                  Some sold what they had no right to sell

                  They sold what they had the right to sell. The Turkish authorities were generally recognized. Russia also sold Alaska without asking permission from the Eskimos.

                  Quote: D16
                  others drove the locals off the ground

                  In addition to 700 thousand Arab refugees, there are 900 thousand Jewish refugees from Arab countries, for some reason the Arab-loving gentlemen do not like to remember about them.
                4. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 March 2021 09: 32
                  -2
                  1) The most fertile land on such a piece of land as Palestine was hardly sold by anyone at all. The first Jewish settlements were unprofitable and subsidized. Rothschild put a bunch of dough in there, then something worked.
                  2) It's true about the attitude of Turks and Jews to local Arabs.
                  3) As for the fact that someone had no right to sell - I have never read or heard. They began to drive them away by force only during the war, and even then - not everywhere and not always.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 7 March 2021 19: 35
    +3
    Quote: D16
    By the way, many Jews live in the freedom-loving Islamic republic of Iran and no one is going to solve the "Jewish question" there.

    By the way, in a country with a fascist regime. following the example of that fascist country which was defeated by your ancestors, out of 85 thousand Jews, 10 thousand remained. Most of them hide their nationality. And the remaining 75 thousand, thanks to the existence of the state of Israel, moved there, as well as 1,2 million Jews from a country where there are people like you.
    1. D16
      D16 7 March 2021 20: 24
      +1
      By the way, in a country with a fascist regime

      Yeah. There are 20 active synagogues in Tehran. Fascists in one word lol
      10 thousand left, most of them hide their nationality

      In fact, 25 thousand. And this is the largest diaspora in Muslim countries. At the same time, Iran is all in sanctions and isolation. If this factor had not existed, they would have fled from Israel to Iran.
      as well as 1,2 million Jews from a country where there are people like you.

      Oh, how ... am I the chapel too? (C) laughing
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 8 March 2021 09: 53
        -2
        Nobody talks about the problems of the Persians with the Jews. Since ancient times - peace, friendship, chewing gum.
        The Ayatollahs have a problem with the Zionists. This has been the case since 1979. The regime is really fascist - young people are arrested for intergender dances (boys and girls), they are kicked out of universities.
        Why would anyone be afraid to flee from a country that has overtaken Japan in HDI to Ayatolist Iran, even without sanctions? lol
        1. D16
          D16 8 March 2021 14: 02
          -1
          The regime is really fascist - young people are arrested for intergender dances (boys and girls), they are kicked out of universities.

          You should not confuse fascism with religious zababahasi. Is it different in Saudi Arabia? However, here we play, and here the fish were wrapped lol
          Why would anyone be afraid to flee from a country that has overtaken Japan in HDI to Ayatolist Iran even without sanctions? lol

          Because it would be a country of much greater opportunities.
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 7 March 2021 15: 10
    +2
    Quote: Kaman
    When Islamic Pakistan was developing nuclear weapons, Israel did not interfere, because Pakistan does not care about Israel.

    And what then did Eun not please you? Any religion is banned there ...
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 7 March 2021 14: 18
    0
    Quote: D16
    He skillfully ignores the idea that nuclear weapons are being created by Iran to defend their country.

    And the fact that the Jews themselves have had such weapons for a long time. According to their thinking: Quod licet Iovi (Jovi), non licet bovi - "What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to a bull"
    1. D16
      D16 7 March 2021 14: 34
      +1
      They are simply convinced that the most intelligent, cunning and unprincipled in the region and therefore have the right to dominate there.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 7 March 2021 15: 02
        -4
        Quote: D16
        They are simply convinced that the most intelligent, cunning and unprincipled in the region and therefore have the right to dominate there.

        Adolf Iloizovich never dreamed of what they were doing in the Middle East. Pretending to be poor, injured lambs and arranging genocide around him cooler than Himmler
        1. D16
          D16 7 March 2021 15: 19
          0
          This has always been the case in those Palestinians. This is not cold Russia for you, where every person is a friend, comrade and brother, regardless of religion and nationality. laughing .
          1. D16
            D16 7 March 2021 15: 24
            +2
            Py. Sy. And drinking companion laughing
          2. Piramidon
            Piramidon 7 March 2021 15: 39
            -3
            Quote: D16
            This has always been the case in those Palestinians. This is not cold Russia for you

            And where did the "hot Jewish guys" come from? Without even saying thanks to Joseph Vissarionovich, and now spitting on him in every possible way.
            1. D16
              D16 7 March 2021 15: 50
              -1
              In the Union, these guys were Soviet Jews, overwhelmingly good and educated people. Perhaps this is the influence of a hot climate laughing ... And there were not so many of them in percentage terms.
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 7 March 2021 15: 53
                -3
                Quote: D16
                In the Union, these guys were Soviet Jews, overwhelmingly good and educated people.

                And very simple. Remembered from the distant past:
                The shortest Soviet joke: a Jew is a locksmith. laughing
                1. D16
                  D16 7 March 2021 16: 01
                  +1
                  Well, not everyone in Tashkent can freeze their feet in a cold warehouse, someone was warming himself in open-hearth furnaces laughing
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 16
                    +2
                    Quote: D16
                    Well, not everyone in Tashkent can freeze their feet in a cold warehouse, someone was warming himself in open-hearth furnaces laughing

                    Uti pusi, and where did more than 150 Heroes of the Soviet Union of Jewish nationality come from? lol
                    And why were the paratroopers of Malaya Zemlya called Kunikovtsi in honor of the Tashkent citizen?
                    I have two grandfathers:
                    Infantry (Battle of Kursk), commander of the Su-100 (Sakhalin).
                    Infantry (beginning of the war), translator, reconnaissance (up to 44th, commissioned for injury).
                    Yes, and their brothers are infantry. One died (thought at Stalingrad, “recorded in the memory of the people in 1944). request Infantry, machine gun crew commander
                  2. D16
                    D16 7 March 2021 16: 54
                    +1
                    Ooty pusi, and where did more than 150 Heroes of the Soviet Union of Jewish nationality come from? lol

                    There were all sorts of things. Both the SCAC and the Tashkent storekeepers.
                  3. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 13
                    0
                    Quote: D16
                    Ooty pusi, and where did more than 150 Heroes of the Soviet Union of Jewish nationality come from? lol

                    There were all sorts of things. Both the SCAC and the Tashkent storekeepers.

                    Was it different for the rest? laughing Ordinary Soviet people were Jews, and mostly Polish Jews who were not citizens of the USSR settled in Tashkent.
                  4. D16
                    D16 7 March 2021 17: 17
                    +2
                    So I don’t worry about it, and I think so myself.
            2. Kaman
              Kaman 7 March 2021 16: 34
              +4
              Notably, they fought in Tashkent, Jews are in 4th place in terms of the number of GSS. And in "open-hearth furnaces", you would be afraid to write this, because in Russia Nazi ideology is prohibited.
            3. D16
              D16 7 March 2021 17: 05
              0
              Notably, they fought in Tashkent.

              There is no smoke without fire. Sayings do not appear out of the blue.
              after all, Nazi ideology is prohibited in Russia.

              Why should I be afraid? I am not calling anyone here to resolve the Jewish question.
            4. Kaman
              Kaman 7 March 2021 20: 18
              -3
              I think the Investigative Committee will have a different opinion. I really don't understand you. I'm not going to get dirty about you with snitching (I would have stuffed my face in "real life" with pleasure), but someone will snitch, and Nazism and endorsement of the Holocaust in Russia are not encouraged and you will get three rubles per capita. And why do you need it?
            5. D16
              D16 7 March 2021 22: 45
              +2
              [quote] [I won't get dirty about you with snitches / quote]
              How grateful I am to you. Straight dear father laughing .
              [Quote] but Nazism and endorsement of the Holocaust in Russia are not encouraged and you will get a three-ruble note per capita. And why do you need this? [/ Quote]
              I will live at the expense of the state. And then it’s so hard on freedom that it’s better to be in prison lol So do not be ill and do not remember dashingly. laughing
        2. borberd
          borberd 7 March 2021 17: 29
          +2
          Ideology seems to be forbidden, but there are enough Nazis here.
      2. Kaman
        Kaman 7 March 2021 17: 02
        +1
        How did Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin say about the Polish ambassador Lipsky? "You bastard, an anti-Semitic pig." So D16 deserved this definition no less than Ambassador Lipsky ...
      3. D16
        D16 7 March 2021 17: 20
        -1
        So D16 deserved this definition no less than Ambassador Lipsky ...

        Here you go. Shit on the board and flew away. Dove lol .
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 11
    0
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: D16
    In the Union, these guys were Soviet Jews, overwhelmingly good and educated people.

    And very simple. Remembered from the distant past:
    The shortest Soviet joke: a Jew is a locksmith. laughing

    My grandfather was a milling machine operator, my great-grandfather was a shoemaker. lol
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    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 56
      +3
      Well, my parents left in 91 from Moldova because of the perestroika booth, I grew up in Israel, studied, served in the army and now I have moved to the Russian Federation. Did my parents betray someone? laughing and for the fact that they "got rid of", I still say thank you to them - thanks to life in Israel, I treat people like a human being, by the way.
  • D16
    D16 7 March 2021 17: 14
    -2
    My grandfather was a milling machine operator, my great-grandfather was a shoemaker.

    Here I am about the fact that the Soviet Jews were normal people, but when they leave, write wasted. And they carry all sorts of crap on Russian-language forums. This is definitely the influence of a hot climate. laughing
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 18
    +1
    Quote: D16
    My grandfather was a milling machine operator, my great-grandfather was a shoemaker.

    Here I am about the fact that the Soviet Jews were normal people, but when they leave, write wasted. And they carry all sorts of crap on Russian-language forums. This is definitely the influence of a hot climate. laughing

    You know, out of a million 100 thousand Russian-speaking in Israel, up to 400 thousand are ethnic Slavs (stepmother / stepfather / one grandfather is Jews). Israelis consider them to be workaholics and technocrats, non-emotional people who live by the laws of logic and deep knowledge.
    This is not the case here wink
  • D16
    D16 7 March 2021 18: 56
    0
    Israelis consider them to be workaholics and technocrats, non-emotional people who live by the laws of logic and deep knowledge.
    It's not like that here wink

    Compared to the natives maybe. But these Ironics begin to carry nonsense sucked out of the finger on the forum and accuse everyone in a row of anti-Semitism, proving how bad our life is here and in general what kind of suckers we are here laughing .
    I'm not happy with this.
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 7 March 2021 19: 03
    +1
    I'm about image it is the Slavs. Russian Jews are all different, we live in different realities, so there is a lot of misunderstanding.
    For example:
    when in Russia I do the elementary thing that every citizen is supposed to do, I come across ... a shitty attitude. I raise connections - everything is like clockwork, I have not seen such heartfelt participation in Israel laughing
    I tell about this with indignation to the locals - they are indignant:
    - You, as a king, were let through, etc. He complains.
    And an analogy comes to mind - complain to the Papuan that you had no electricity for three days. He'll laugh and look like De Bill.
    And in the opposite direction - Russian service in expensive places is better than Israeli, with banks, in general, everything is more comfortable, problems are solved faster, etc.
    In short, you live in different worlds
  • D16
    D16 7 March 2021 22: 01
    +2
    In short, you live in different worlds

    Well, they would have lived in their present world, respecting the world where they were born, raised and studied and treated for free. So no. These pussies are always trying to spoil everything. laughing
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 8 March 2021 09: 33
    -1
    They do live. It made me come here. And I am satisfied laughing
  • borberd
    borberd 7 March 2021 17: 26
    +3
    Quote: Piramidon
    And very simple. Remembered from the distant past:
    The shortest Soviet joke: a Jew is a locksmith.

    I worked at a factory as a mechanic immediately after the army. The foreman in the workshop where I worked was also a Jew, like a golden-handed locksmith named Syoma. So the anecdote is a lie.
  • igor67
    igor67 8 March 2021 04: 37
    +1
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: D16
    In the Union, these guys were Soviet Jews, overwhelmingly good and educated people.

    And very simple. Remembered from the distant past:
    The shortest Soviet joke: a Jew is a locksmith. laughing

    My father was a locksmith for 40 years, I worked as a fitter for an nk 12 aircraft engine for many years
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 10
    +3
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: D16
    They are simply convinced that the most intelligent, cunning and unprincipled in the region and therefore have the right to dominate there.

    Adolf Iloizovich never dreamed of what they were doing in the Middle East. Pretending to be poor, injured lambs and arranging genocide around him cooler than Himmler

    That is why all neighbors try to marry Israeli Arabs to obtain the citizenship of the Zionist Demon. laughing
  • borberd
    borberd 7 March 2021 17: 32
    +4
    To lie is not to roll bags. Share the scale of this "genocide", compare it with the genocide in Syria, which the occultist arranged for his own people.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 7 March 2021 10: 40
    -4
    And the Jews of the United States.
  • nnm
    nnm 7 March 2021 10: 44
    +1
    Colleague, I don’t understand why you were so minded without giving any reason. Indeed, judging by this deal, China has declared its rights to defend Iran. Yes, the country is far from simple, and we also have difficult relations with them, but we must also understand the value of each ally at the present time. And the more we pull the US around the perimeter, the easier it will be ourselves.
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 7 March 2021 11: 11
    +6
    You talk as if Israel is not important to China. China does not care about Iran’s nuclear weapons, even if Israel razes the floor of Iran to the ground if it does not threaten their interests, they don’t lift a finger.
    Quote: Cowbra
    Israel, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are in talks to create a military alliance.

    Union of sworn friends. laughing
    Quote: Cowbra
    "America has experienced a global post-industrial trans-corporate revolution. Global multinational corporations have taken over the institution of the state."

    This is what happens when obscurity is replaced by any delusional fantasy. Suddenly such wonderful discoveries appear; bourgeois democracy is a screen for the power of the ruling class of the bourgeoisie, in particular big business. Wow. Who would have thought. laughing
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 7 March 2021 11: 13
      0
      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
      You talk as if Israel is not important to China.

      Belt and Path, mon dier, the rest is on the side. So yes - Israel - that's absolutely - is not important, and without Iran - nowhere. Moreover, Iran with broken-down nuclear power plants, i.e. without a railway - it will not work for China ...
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 7 March 2021 11: 18
        0
        Technology is important for China, what can Iran give in this regard? It is a commonplace oil tower and a territory for transit. And the railway can work not only on electricity from a nuclear power plant.
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 7 March 2021 11: 34
          -3
          Eitai has no oil at all. But Iran is important to him as a logistics hub. Trade with Europe is greatly simplified and cheaper. And they dabbled in technology - the Jews never dreamed of
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 7 March 2021 11: 46
            +5
            Quote: Cowbra
            Eitai has no oil at all.

            STA? !! What kind of unscientific fiction is this?
            Quote: Cowbra
            And they dabbled in technology - the Jews never dreamed of

            Oh, yes, so they cannot create a normal engine for their super-aircraft. And with microelectronics, something is not yet taking off for them. And this is not a technology for enameling pots. This is critical.
            1. lucul
              lucul 7 March 2021 13: 00
              -1
              Oh, yes, so they can't create a normal engine for their super aircraft

              How is Israel doing with its aircraft engine there?
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 7 March 2021 13: 07
                +1
                Do not know. But it's not actually about Israel's aviation industry. And about this - http://russian.news.cn/2017-03/21/c_136146328.htm
                1. lucul
                  lucul 7 March 2021 13: 22
                  0
                  And about this

                  You know that as soon as China threatened to restrict the export of rare earths, it suddenly became apparent that almost all Western technologies are extremely critical to rare earths. And if China banned their export altogether? )))
                  1. borberd
                    borberd 7 March 2021 14: 04
                    +3
                    That production will move to other countries. It was already the case, he threatened. As a result, rare earth production has skyrocketed in Australia. This is why the Chinese are no longer threatening.
                    1. lucul
                      lucul 7 March 2021 14: 15
                      0
                      That production will move to other countries. It was already the case, he threatened. As a result, rare earth production has skyrocketed in Australia.

                      From 10 tons to 20 tons? ))))
                      It means on a global scale))))
                    2. borberd
                      borberd 7 March 2021 15: 52
                      +3
                      Demand creates supply . If the Chinese stop supplying rare earths, they will shoot themselves in the foot. They themselves are well aware of this, therefore they did not stop deliveries.
            2. Cowbra
              Cowbra 7 March 2021 14: 04
              -2
              Quote: lucul
              How is Israel doing with its aircraft engine there?

              Yet he had Shabbat yesterday - and he traditionally for Israel - did not work wassat
          2. D16
            D16 7 March 2021 14: 40
            +1
            Oh, yes, so they cannot create a normal engine for their super aircraft.

            And how will Israel help them? laughing All our lives we have been flying on American engines and element base.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 19
              +2
              Quote: D16
              Oh, yes, so they cannot create a normal engine for their super aircraft.

              And how will Israel help them? laughing All our lives we have been flying on American engines and element base.

              Either the Chinese buy Israeli start-ups in bulk - 20% more Americans, Koreans and Germans give lol
              First flew on the French
              1. D16
                D16 7 March 2021 17: 02
                0
                First flew on the French

                Shoot the French turbojet engine of that time and it turns out that the Germans made it. What do the Jews have to do with this?
                They have too much money laughing .
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 46
                  0
                  Except for Marcel Blok (Dassault) - nothing laughing
                  1. D16
                    D16 7 March 2021 19: 43
                    +1
                    What turbojet engine did Dassault develop?
                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 7 March 2021 20: 16
                    -1
                    ATAR 101C, for example. But the movement was not developed by him, by Snecma
                    And not copied from the Germans
                    But made by his order for the very legendary Mirage
                  3. D16
                    D16 7 March 2021 22: 11
                    0
                    ATAR 101C, for example. But the engine was not developed by him, by Snecma.

                    Formally, yes, but the Germans developed it with the participation of the French, and the Jew Dassault had nothing to do with its creation. And France paid for the banquet, not Dassault.
                  4. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 8 March 2021 09: 41
                    0
                    The engine was being developed already in the late 50s, the Jew Dassault was a French taxpayer)).
                  5. D16
                    D16 9 March 2021 09: 54
                    0
                    Hermann Oestrich was still French :).
                    Jew Dassault was a French taxpayer)).

                    And this does not give him the right to dispose of the developments at his own discretion.
                  6. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 9 March 2021 10: 31
                    0
                    Taki does not. But he gave orders. Here it is, the true face of the so-called world Zionism - imagined themselves to be the masters of life am
  • lucul
    lucul 7 March 2021 12: 59
    +1
    Technology is important for China, what can Iran give in this regard?

    China has already received most of the technologies, let me remind you that they made 5G chips first.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 7 March 2021 13: 03
      +2
      What's with the analogue of asml in China?
      1. lucul
        lucul 7 March 2021 13: 19
        -5
        What's with the analogue of asml in China?

        And what about Israel's analogue?
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 7 March 2021 13: 54
          +5
          And Israel is part of the Western world. Embedded in the high-tech sector of the economy. Unlike China. For him, the availability of such technologies is not as critical as for China.
          1. lucul
            lucul 7 March 2021 14: 17
            -7
            And Israel is part of the Western world.

            Well, yes - Israel tse Europeans)))
            Embedded in the high-tech sector of the economy. Unlike China. For him, the availability of such technologies is not as critical as for China.

            What wonderful discoveries the next 10 years will present you, my imagination is already off scale)))
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 7 March 2021 14: 23
              +3
              Quote: lucul
              Well, yes - Israel tse Europeans)))

              Well, in any case, the Israelis themselves think so. But you start to drift away. We are not talking about that.
              1. lucul
                lucul 7 March 2021 14: 26
                +1
                We are not talking about that.

                Unfinished - corrected, see above.
            2. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 7 March 2021 14: 28
              +5
              Quote: lucul
              What wonderful discoveries the next 10 years will present you, my imagination is already off scale)))

              That is, do you think Israel lives solely by exporting radishes to our stores? I don’t want to disappoint you, but it’s not.
              1. lucul
                lucul 7 March 2021 14: 32
                -7
                That is, do you think Israel lives solely by exporting radishes to our stores? I don’t want to disappoint you, but it’s not.

                Israel lives EXCLUSIVELY with the loan interest of its faithful sons (whose religiosity can only be envied), everything else is the tales of grandmother Arina.
              2. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 27
                +3
                Quote: lucul
                That is, do you think Israel lives solely by exporting radishes to our stores? I don’t want to disappoint you, but it’s not.

                Israel lives EXCLUSIVELY with the loan interest of its faithful sons (whose religiosity can only be envied), everything else is the tales of grandmother Arina.

                Exclusively due to the inability to buy sessions at universities lol - IT (second place in the absolute number of startups after the United States), electronics, agricultural technologies, fertilizers, chemical industry, diamond processing, etc.
                A little from tourism and a little from the military-industrial complex
                Financial sector - so ce
          2. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 20
            +1
            Quote: lucul
            And Israel is part of the Western world.

            Well, yes - Israel tse Europeans)))
            Embedded in the high-tech sector of the economy. Unlike China. For him, the availability of such technologies is not as critical as for China.

            What wonderful discoveries the next 10 years will present you, my imagination is already off scale)))

            Already in terms of HDI (standard of living, roughly), there are between Japan and Austria (data of 2019), and the Japs have overtaken fellow
  • lucul
    lucul 7 March 2021 12: 56
    -5
    Suddenly such wonderful discoveries appear; bourgeois democracy is a screen for the power of the ruling class of the bourgeoisie, in particular big business. Wow. Who would have thought.

    Yes, yes, yes, the most important task of the devil is to convince that he does not exist)))
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 7 March 2021 11: 31
    0
    Cowbra - to the Persians atomic bombs and Pakistanis can be ready to sell, the main thing is to agree!
  • Alex_You
    Alex_You 7 March 2021 12: 31
    0
    What prevents China from turning a blind eye to Iran and buying oil from Russia?
    1. D16
      D16 7 March 2021 14: 58
      0
      What prevents China from turning a blind eye to Iran and buying oil from Russia?

      He's not sick of us anyway.
      https://www.vedomosti.ru/business/articles/2020/04/30/829454-kitai-vishel-na-rekordnie-zakupki-urals
      But Iran has a different oil. And she is also needed.
    2. ccsr
      ccsr 7 March 2021 15: 02
      +2
      Quote: Alex_You
      What prevents China from turning a blind eye to Iran and buying oil from Russia?

      Russia itself buys some grades of light Arabian oil from Iran, and this began back in the days of the USSR. From it, a higher quality synthetic rubber is obtained, without which neither the aerospace industry nor underwater vehicles can do.
  • andreykolesov123
    andreykolesov123 7 March 2021 13: 32
    +4
    Iran is not China's ally, it is just a friendly partner. For North Korea, China entered in its time, and for Iran, only in the UN it will wave its paw condemningly.
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 7 March 2021 14: 08
      -4
      China has 500 reasons to fit in for Iran (this is in dollars). For such grandmothers to Israel, China will unscrew the head - and say. that's how it goes
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 29
        +4
        Quote: Cowbra
        China has 500 reasons to fit in for Iran (this is in dollars). For such grandmothers to Israel, China will unscrew the head - and say. that's how it goes

        China? laughing
        The second largest Chinese embassy in the world is located in Tel Aviv - start-ups are buying up cleanly increasing the price
  • borberd
    borberd 7 March 2021 13: 48
    +3
    Quote: Cowbra
    ... only Iran has China as its allies

    China will not climb to fit in for Iran and put its soldiers or civilians for the ambitions of the ayatols. Knowing the Chinese, we can assume that they signed treaties that will be respected by any Iranian authorities who replaced the Ayatols. Israel has no problems with the Iranian people. The Americans, of course, will join, since they have a struggle with China, and BV is one of the fronts of this struggle.
    1. D16
      D16 7 March 2021 15: 12
      -1
      China will not climb to fit in for Iran and lay its soldiers or civilians for the ambitions of the ayatolas

      Of course not. In general, they somehow do not rush in wars. This is not theirs.
      Israel has no problems with the Iranian people.

      Like Iran and Israel.
      Americans of course will connect

      Blessed is he who believes.
      But judging by how the Iranians demolished the ukroboing with their own citizens, they will tear your pepelats to shreds, and then they will also heap along the airfields laughing .
      1. borberd
        borberd 7 March 2021 16: 04
        +3
        Quote: D16
        But judging by the way the Iranians demolished the ukroboing with their own citizens, they will tear your pepelats to shreds, and then they will heap along the airfields.

        Yeah, beat your own - so that strangers are afraid. They demolished it precisely because they were afraid. They shot at everything that flies. On airfields they can try once, then there will be nothing. Military airfields in general are almost all underground, designed for massive bombing. Than they will tear our pepelatsy, really with their old 70s, barely flying? Well then, the flag in their hands, a drum on their neck, and a fair wind back. lol
        1. D16
          D16 7 March 2021 16: 33
          0
          Yeah, beat your own - so that strangers are afraid.

          Not. They didn't even think. Determination on the face lol .
          Almost all military airfields are underground.

          On a tricky ass ...
          Than they will tear our pepelatsy, really with their old 70s, barely flying?

          Probably the American Global Hawk, they are so old and filled up. Read about Iranian air defense at your leisure, you will write less nonsense.
          1. borberd
            borberd 7 March 2021 16: 54
            +2
            Quote: D16
            Not. They didn't even think. Determination on the face.

            Of course, determination, like the Syrians. Smacking rockets in all directions, and then proudly declare that the attack of the adversaries was repulsed. 200% of enemy missiles were shot down. And the fact that all targets are hit, warehouses burn and explode, none of the brave warriors cares.
            Quote: D16
            On a tricky ass ...

            I have the impression that you do not understand what you are trying to talk about at all.
            Quote: D16
            Probably the American Global Hawk, they are so old and filled up. Read about Iranian air defense at your leisure, you will write less nonsense.

            Shooting down a slow drone is a great achievement, almost the same as the downed Boeing of a Ukrainian airline.
            1. D16
              D16 7 March 2021 17: 41
              0
              I have the impression that you do not understand what you are trying to talk about at all.

              Well, do not consider you Iranians for idiots. Underestimating the enemy you know what it leads to.
              Shot down a slow drone

              Well yes. An ordinary, such a drone for 222 million. lol They are in America like shoe polish at a shoe polish factory. And there were no electronic warfare funds there.
              1. borberd
                borberd 8 March 2021 21: 49
                +1
                From the fact that he is worth two hundred lemons, he suddenly began to fly faster? But . lol
  • Maz
    Maz 7 March 2021 14: 57
    +1
    Soon there will be elections in Israel, in less than 20 days, so trending in the pre-election advertising chaos is not tossing bags. Moreover, after the elections another Jew will become the Minister of Defense. This one has already eaten his time. It's time to let another to the trough. So he tries. And even more so that Benya Gantz is a military pensioner, who vomited all this, with the elections in the country and victory in them flew a month ago. Now He needs to prepare the rear, a place to look for a warm place from where you can bark and howl at the situation, and without patronage and an appropriate image, there is no way in Jewish politics close to the ass of the United States. Here Benya is trying, he keeps traditions. He studied military science with us in the United States in a real way. So stuffing is understandable.
    1. D16
      D16 7 March 2021 16: 37
      0
      Israel elections soon, in less than 20 days

      This means that shelling from Palestine will begin soon. To consolidate the electorate lol .
  • 3danimal
    3danimal 7 March 2021 17: 54
    +1
    so Israel is not even a cockroach under a slipper, but a louse in a blacksmith press

    Israel outperforms:
    In aviation,
    In tanks
    UAVs,
    Ships and submarines,
    The general level of technology,
    Aircraft preparation,
    Has a nuclear weapon (100+ charges).
    So what about the cockroach ?? smile
    (I guess you were too lazy to google)
    1. D16
      D16 7 March 2021 23: 27
      -1
      Has a nuclear weapon (100+ charges)

      But I think that there are no tests, no nuclear weapons. Proofs, Billy laughing
      Aircraft preparation

      When was the last time they fought? In Lebanon? And Iran has been fighting in Syria for six years in a row.
      .
      So what about the cockroach ?? smile

      Air defense missile defense in Iran is clearly not worse, and overdokuhren ballistic missiles. And apparently they know how to use them. So given the size of the states, I would bet on Iran. Without any Chinese involvement. Tanks with a fleet won't help. Drones even more so.
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 7 March 2021 23: 39
        +2
        We had a leader who believed that aircraft tanks were not needed when there were missiles. smile
        How did Iranian air defense missile defense show itself? Shot down one drone? Israel's air defenses are constantly being tested.
        But I think that there are no tests, no nuclear weapons. Proofs, Billy

        Developed countries now do not need testing by creating charges.
        An example is the new B61 bomb.
        And you nevertheless tried to remove the uncomfortable argument for yourself. smile
        1. D16
          D16 7 March 2021 23: 45
          0
          We had such a leader who believed that aircraft tanks are not needed when there are missiles smile

          Likewise, there are no common boundaries.
          How did Iranian air defense missile defense show itself? Shot down one drone?

          Yes. For 222 lem. And what brings down the IDF? Water pipe rockets? Our drone was shot down in a variety of ways. Taki is gone, bastard laughing
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 7 March 2021 23: 51
            +2
            Likewise, there are no common boundaries.

            By analogy: the United States has no common borders with Iraq.
            Yes. For 222 lem

            A scout, big enough. No protection systems.
            Georgian air defense shot down a Tu-22M3 of the Russian Air Force, which was flying to bombard military targets in August 2008. Not cheap, I suppose. An indicator of immeasurable air defense power?
            Water pipe rockets?

            Small, high-speed targets are very difficult to intercept, and there is little time to react.
            And the Iranians for some time "grazed" the drone, since the Americans relaxed.
            1. D16
              D16 8 March 2021 07: 53
              0
              By analogy: the United States has no common borders with Iraq.

              Did Iraq have missiles capable of reaching US territory, or will someone from Iran's neighbors provide you with territory for the deployment of invasion forces, or are you hoping for an amphibious assault?
              A scout, big enough. No protection systems.

              This fool did not have electronic warfare funds? I do not believe.
              Georgian air defense shot down a Tu-22M3 of the Russian Air Force, which was flying to bombard military targets in August 2008.

              Only not for bombing, but for reconnaissance. And it only speaks about the stupidity of the fathers-commanders. Nobody did more such nonsense.
              Small, high-speed targets are very difficult to intercept, and there is little time to react.

              The most typical target for military air defense training.
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 8 March 2021 11: 37
                +1
                The most typical target for military air defense training.


                Tell us, in what exercises is the interception of Grad missiles a typical task?
                And it only says about the stupidity of the fathers-commanders

                Riding a bomber for reconnaissance is ingenious. Especially, without preliminary radar reconnaissance for the presence of air defense. good
                This fool did not have electronic warfare funds? I do not believe.

                Speculation, there is no data on this. And what exactly did not exist - it was a SPO and dipole reflectors with thermal missiles.
                Let us not forget that such a device, in principle, is not capable of vigorously maneuvering to avoid the missile.
                or someone from Iran's neighbors will provide you with territory to deploy invasion forces

                First, not for us, but for them (the Israelites).

                Turkey or, with some pressure, Iraq may well.
                The Saudis themselves are unlikely to intervene, but they will do everything possible to help.
                1. D16
                  D16 8 March 2021 13: 20
                  -1
                  Tell us, in what exercises is the interception of Grad missiles a typical task?

                  Look for the 9F689 target complex and you will find it. In all air defense
                  training. laughing
                  Riding a bomber for reconnaissance is ingenious.

                  Considering that he was a scout, I do not see anything inadequate. That's what the Gruzo-UkroPVO underestimated, yes. the joint is concrete. But it did not last long afterwards.
                  Speculation, there is no data on this.

                  "The Global Hawk is equipped with Raytheon's AN / ALR-89 self-defense kit, which includes an AN / AVR-3 laser warning system, an AN / APR-49 radiation warning receiver and a jamming system. In addition, the drone uses a trailed trap ALE-50 "(c).

                  More details: http://warinform.ru/news-view-354.html
                  Turkey or, with some pressure, Iraq may well.
                  The Saudis themselves are unlikely to intervene, but they will do everything possible to help.

                  Have you tried writing science fiction? lol
                  1. 3danimal
                    3danimal 8 March 2021 14: 50
                    +1
                    That's what the Gruzo-UkroPVO underestimated, yes. concrete joint

                    Let's just say that the air forces with real experience in countering air defense would not have done that. Israeli, for example. It's not like bombing barmaleev ..
                    Hopefully lessons learned.
                    Have you tried writing science fiction?

                    Are you talking about the Saudis? Remind, whose proxies launched cruise missiles at their oil fields?
                    And they are Sunnis, they do not consider Iranian Shiites as Muslims.
                    Turkey or, with some pressure, Iraq may well.

                    Let me explain: with the support of the United States, of course.
                    1. D16
                      D16 9 March 2021 08: 15
                      0
                      Let's just say that the air forces with real experience in countering air defense would not have done that. Israeli, for example. It's not like bombing barmaleev ..

                      And so these non-barmales were carried out. They simply did not expect such determination from them. I would not be surprised if after the "victory" they themselves fled, realizing that they would do to them for it.
                      Hopefully lessons learned.

                      The outpost has been accepted, Altius is on his way.
                      Are you talking about the Saudis?

                      Do you want the world economy to lose Saudi oil? Personally, I would not mind looking at this, but I'm afraid even our gasoline will rise in price laughing
                      Remind me, whose proxies launched cruise missiles at their oil fields?

                      "Was there a boy?" laughing The question is very controversial.
                      Let me explain: with the support of the United States, of course.

                      After being asked from there? lol
                    2. 3danimal
                      3danimal 9 March 2021 08: 51
                      0
                      And so they carried out these non-barmales

                      Having an advantage in strength by how many, 10, 20+ times? Not a reason to be proud, just a working moment.
                      They simply did not expect such determination from them.

                      What anti-aircraft gunners will do their job?
                      I would not be surprised if after the "victory" they themselves fled, realizing that they would do it for it.

                      The Turks, after the shooting down of the Su-24, (having caught it in a micro-flight into their territory) were not very scared.
                      Bragging, the enemy is immeasurably weaker in the beginning. You can brag about the victory over the strong.
                      Personally, I would not mind looking at this, but I'm afraid even our gasoline will rise in price laughing

                      Did you notice he for us in any case becomes more expensive.
                      Unlike residents of the same SA. Apparently, they do not have a greedy king and his entourage.
                      Was there a boy? "Laughing The question is very controversial.

                      Excuses, jokes. The rockets were launched by the Houthis, who are Iranian proxies. There, too, are not fools sitting there.
                      And the Sunnis Saudis are by no means brothers and allies of the Shiite Ayatollahs in Iran, especially with their manners to control the region (converted to their own branch of Islam, of course).
                      After being asked from there?

                      They have a lot to offer, a lot of money and influence. Won Israel and Egypt were reconciled.
                      IMHO, it is a pity that the same USA did not intervene and did not support the regime of Shah Pahlavi in ​​the late 70s. Although they provided considerable support to him (with the same military equipment) before that.
                      As a result, a large country appeared in the region, with permanent radical Islamists at the head and considerable reserves of American weapons (43 F-14s with Phoenix missiles are still the main force of the Air Force).
                    3. D16
                      D16 9 March 2021 12: 31
                      0
                      I'll start at the end. There are no Phoenix missiles in Iran and never have been. In the United States at the time, smart people were driving. If these were missiles, they would at least try to shoot them down. Tankers, too, probably maimed the Houthis laughing ... And the fact that they took responsibility for what happened does not say anything.
                      One thing is getting more expensive due to inflation, another "yesterday was a barrel
                      sixty, and today two hundred. "
                      After the shooting down of the Su-24, the Turks still use only UAVs in Idlib.
                      The fact of the matter is that active resistance was not expected from this "air defense". Simply based on the balance of power.
                    4. 3danimal
                      3danimal 9 March 2021 13: 05
                      0
                      After the shooting down of the Su-24, the Turks still use only UAVs in Idlib.

                      And quite effective, I've heard. If this is a powerful and low-vulnerability tool (the operator does not risk anything, gains experience and drinks coffee with buns), then why not use it? And this is in Idlib, and since the shooting down of the ill-fated Su-24, there have been many more episodes when Turkish aviation was working on Syria.
                      So you wanted to say that the Turks got scared and hid in a corner? smile
                      The fact of the matter is that they did not expect active resistance from this "air defense"

                      Because of the inflexibility ... of the intellect. Didn't know / forgot that it was necessary to conduct reconnaissance. And NOT a bomber.
                      I remember that this news upset me then, I had a better opinion about the level of the Air Force.
                      If they were missiles, they would at least try to shoot them down.

                      Are you talking about?
                      There are no Phoenix missiles in Iran and never have been.

                      There were and are. Are you too lazy to google when you come across an unfamiliar name?
                      AIM-54 Phoenix, a long-range air-to-air missile.
                      Of the modern operators - only the Iranian Air Force.

                      https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-54_Phoenix

                      And the fact that they took responsibility for what happened does not say anything.

                      Trying to pull the well-known fact by the ears, they tore them off. Shame on you smile
                    5. D16
                      D16 9 March 2021 19: 25
                      0
                      And quite effective, I've heard.

                      Effective as long as the Syrians have not pulled up the military air defense. Almost immediately after that, the war ended and the Idlib region once again became smaller. laughing
                      Because of the inflexibility ... of the intellect. Didn't know / forgot that it was necessary to conduct reconnaissance. And NOT a bomber.

                      Nobody even knew about the composition of the Georgian air defense system and what state it was in. Do not think that this Beech shone on the whole area. It works great from external target designation. At the moment when the tracking and target illumination station turned on, it was time to eject.
                      There were and are.

                      Wrong. I didn't think that this joint would be exported. Now there is a new rocket in service, made on the basis of a missile from the MIM-23.
                      Are you talking about?

                      The fact that Iran does not have ballistic missiles that can make such neat holes in containers. They fly high, they can be seen from afar and it is not difficult to determine the approximate starting point. They would probably have been fired upon by air defense systems. And the UAVs could be anyone's.
                      Trying to pull the well-known fact by the ears, they tore them off. Shame on you smile

                      This is my opinion, I do not impose it on anyone.
          2. 3danimal
            3danimal 8 March 2021 15: 06
            +1
            Look for the 9F689 target complex

            https://tonnel-ufo.ru/articles.php?id=611

            A target based on the Grad, with installed corner reflectors (simulate an airplane or KR) and a tracer. "Nothing" differs from the usual Grad rocket smile
            1. D16
              D16 9 March 2021 07: 57
              0
              Target based on the Grad, with installed corner reflectors

              Are you talking about the tail unit? So it is on the Kassams. Moreover, their EPR is greater than that of the M-21. Not all military air defense systems have a radar and do not always use it.
            2. 3danimal
              3danimal 9 March 2021 08: 37
              0
              No, corner reflectors.
              https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Уголковый_отражатель
              They allow you to noticeably raise the EPR (image intensifier) ​​of the target / decoy target, for imitation of both the aircraft (which is larger in size) and the RC (which is also larger).
              Plus a tracer. All this greatly simplifies the task for anti-aircraft gunners.
            3. D16
              D16 9 March 2021 11: 58
              0
              And where are those things on the rocket launched from the tube? Its EPR is already sufficient. How much of this stuff was shot in Khmeimim until the protrudes were pushed aside. Moreover, it was not the kassams that were taken away. The commander said that this is an airplane, which means an airplane. He said that a rocket means a rocket. The tracer can only help when working in pursuit. Nor will Kassams fly to Israel from Iran. And not even Point U. Although the "guests" in Syria will also spoil the life of the Jewish air defense on their own.
            4. 3danimal
              3danimal 9 March 2021 12: 10
              0
              Its EPR is already sufficient

              I assure you, it is significantly less than the CD and the more so the strike aircraft. (Have you ever been interested in quantities?)
              Corner reflectors are not very compatible with aerodynamics, but they can be placed in place of the warhead and filled with a compound for streamlining. As a result, you have a Grada rocket with EPR F-15e.
              Nor will Kassams fly to Israel from Iran. And not even Points

              Technically advanced Iran has mastered the analogue of Iskander?
              There are doubts.
              What is not, is that in response, BRs with non-conventional warheads can fly.
              In Iran, not everything is calm; when the top is knocked out, foreign policy goals can change dramatically.
              But the Ayatollahs, I think, are in no rush to their personal paradise.
            5. D16
              D16 9 March 2021 19: 51
              0
              As a result, you have a Grada rocket with EPR F-15e.

              The MANPADS operator does not care deeply about the target's EPR. As well as almost the entire level of military air defense, which trains on these cats.
              The problem with MLRS is not the invisibility of missiles, but their number.
              Technically advanced Iran has mastered the analogue of Iskander?

              Medium-range missiles have different speeds and altitudes compared to the BM-21. The dome on the border won't help here. Each object will have to be covered individually.
              What is not, is that in response, BRs with non-conventional warheads can fly.

              How can there be no doubt about the application of one whose existence is in great doubt and has never been tested?
              In Iran, not everything is calm, when the top is knocked out, foreign policy goals can change dramatically. But the Ayatollahs, I think, are in no hurry to their personal paradise.

              Therefore, they are developing nuclear weapons because they are not in a hurry to the next world, and they do not wish their compatriots harm.
            6. 3danimal
              3danimal 9 March 2021 20: 11
              +1
              they do not wish their compatriots harm.

              The experience of the Iranian-Iraqi war with the tactics of the "human wave" shows that people for Islamist fanatics are consumables.
              that they are not in a hurry to the next world

              Many of the main Islamists, I think, have already tasted the delights of a comfortable life (at least their wives and relatives) and will not rush to exchange this for a visit to Allah.
              As well as almost the entire level of military air defense, which trains on these cats.

              Military air defense is aimed at the target using radar.
              The target can be of the same size, but with a noticeable difference in RCS
              Some of the features of naval exercises disclosed in a number of articles show that their air defense officers tend to use the most visible and high-flying targets in order to pass these exercises with the best results. A sort of analogue of a cheat sheet for an exam.
              Why not extrapolate this style to their land-based counterparts as well? After all, if the main thing is to report, then all methods are good. Objectives - knocked down, awards, promotions and bonuses - received. And there will be no war anyway.
              The Israelis have no opportunity for such "chill". Missiles are flying combat, corner reflectors do not stand on them, and instead of them there is a warhead capable of killing a number of fellow citizens. They are very cherished there (including by paying large sums to the relatives of the victims).
            7. D16
              D16 9 March 2021 21: 57
              0
              The experience of the Iranian-Iraqi war with the tactics of the "human wave" shows that people for Islamist fanatics are consumables.

              Did they have a choice? Nuclear weapons are being developed so that such tactics would not have to be used anymore.
              the main Islamists, I think, have already tasted the delights of a comfortable life (at least their wives and relatives) and will not rush to exchange this for a visit to Allah.

              Where did the firewood come from, or did they come up with it?
              Some of the features of naval exercises disclosed in a number of articles show that their air defense officers tend to use the most visible and high-flying targets in order to pass these exercises with the best results.

              You never know what can be sprinkled here. It should be borne in mind that ship-based air defense systems have been working out for years and the tasks are gradually becoming more complicated from firing to firing.
              Why not extrapolate this style to their land-based counterparts as well? After all, if the main thing is to report, then all methods are good. Objectives - knocked down, awards, promotions and bonuses - received. And there will be no war anyway.

              Have pity on the owl. Khmeimim was regularly fired upon. The result is zero.
              The Israelis have no opportunity for such "chill". Missiles are flying combat, corner reflectors do not stand on them, and instead of them there is a warhead capable of killing a number of fellow citizens. They are very cherished there (including by paying large sums to the relatives of the victims).

              Rockets fly into white light like a pretty penny. laughing Nobody has taken Israel seriously yet. They made an anti-cashier complex, which was not intended for serious turmoil. It feels like they are deliberately ignoring the experience they got in Lebanon. The incident with our UAV speaks to exactly this. In its place there may be several Iranian ones with "gifts" for an almost stationary dome or kamikaze drones. They exist in Syria and have proven themselves not bad. Was there at least one shelling of Israeli air defense systems? I haven't heard of that. But after all, it is logical to first make a gap in the dome, which is not so difficult, and then not deny yourself anything. But no. With perseverance worthy of better use, they are consolidating the population of Israel with their mediocre shelling. Well this is no accident. Wouldn't be surprised if Israeli taxpayers pay for the banquet lol .
  • Israel
    Israel 8 March 2021 18: 23
    +2
    ... but with the connection of China, the forces are incommensurable. And the United States will not help if someone has not noticed

    China and Taiwan cannot resolve the issue for Iran, all the more it will not go to war. And most importantly, no one needs nuclear weapons from Iran except perhaps the DPRK, including Russia and all the same China. And with serious steps by Iran on the way to nuclear weapons, for Iran everything will end with the explosions of their physicists and strikes on objects.
  • Pereira
    Pereira 7 March 2021 10: 33
    +8
    Then Iran also has the right to destroy Israeli nuclear weapons. In any way.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 7 March 2021 11: 33
      +5
      So let's drink to the desire to coincide with the possibilities. laughing How can Iran do this?
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 7 March 2021 12: 21
        -2
        Not admitted to Iranian secret plans. I will not give copies of documents. Sorry.
        1. 3danimal
          3danimal 8 March 2021 14: 54
          0
          Why do you sympathize with the Islamist Ayatollahs?
          What did Iran give us?
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 8 March 2021 17: 26
            -2
            I see you stayed in the 70s. And the world has gone far ahead. I see no reason not to sympathize with Iran.
            Iran has given you nothing and will not give you anything.
            And we have it differently.
            1. 3danimal
              3danimal 8 March 2021 17: 55
              +1
              And the world has gone far ahead.

              Has the world fallen in love with Islamists?
              Have you seen a lot of Israeli suicide bombers exploding in the crowd? The civilian planes they exploded?
              Iran has given you nothing and will not give you anything.

              He gave nothing to Russia and its citizens (including me).
              And we have it differently.

              Love is more valuable than money and benefits ?? smile This is not how foreign policy is built.
              What exactly is different?
      2. lucul
        lucul 7 March 2021 13: 02
        -4
        So let's drink to the desire to coincide with the possibilities. laughing How can Iran do this?

        Do you really think Israel will win the war with Iran? )))
        1. andreykolesov123
          andreykolesov123 7 March 2021 13: 34
          +3
          Quote: lucul
          So let's drink to the desire to coincide with the possibilities. laughing How can Iran do this?

          Do you really think Israel will win the war with Iran? )))

          Israel does not need a victory in the war with Iran. It is enough to cause irreparable damage to its nuclear industry.
          1. lucul
            lucul 7 March 2021 13: 41
            -3
            Israel does not need a victory in the war with Iran. It is enough to cause irreparable damage to its nuclear industry.

            As they say, is this an attempt of gross interference in the internal affairs of the state? Not? )))
        2. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 7 March 2021 15: 34
          +2
          Почему нет?
        3. 3danimal
          3danimal 7 March 2021 23: 45
          +1
          Perhaps someone will intervene on the side of Israel. wink
          Aviation has been repeatedly tested in operations on strikes against objects covered by air defense.
          Plus - the presence of nuclear weapons.
      3. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 7 March 2021 15: 31
        -2
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        How can Iran do this?

        What a jamb. How Israeli Jews will destroy the Iranian nuclear weapons, it’s underground.
  • Mitroha
    Mitroha 7 March 2021 10: 34
    0
    that Israel is interested in Tehran's refusal to develop nuclear weapons designed to destroy his country.

    Another high-likes?
  • prior
    prior 7 March 2021 10: 35
    +4
    That the American Jews, that the Israeli Jews are so "peaceful", there is nowhere to put a seal ...
    Or maybe it's worth "thanking" Israel's best friend, Jew Trump, for breaking the nuclear deal with Iran ?!
  • Quadro
    Quadro 7 March 2021 10: 36
    +3
    As always, we can illegally have nuclear weapons, but Iran cannot. We are exceptional and chosen by God.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 7 March 2021 10: 50
      +1
      Quote: Quadro
      As always, we can illegally have nuclear weapons, but Iran cannot. We are exceptional and chosen by God.

      The representative of a country with 1500 YaB said.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 7 March 2021 10: 57
        +6
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Quadro
        As always, we can illegally have nuclear weapons, but Iran cannot. We are exceptional and chosen by God.

        The representative of a country with 1500 YaB said.

        And no one forbade you to create nuclear weapons. Then why do you forbid Iran to have it? With what fright did the BBC decide that Iran is creating nuclear weapons directly to destroy Israel?
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 7 March 2021 11: 09
          0
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: Quadro
          As always, we can illegally have nuclear weapons, but Iran cannot. We are exceptional and chosen by God.

          The representative of a country with 1500 YaB said.

          And no one forbade you to create nuclear weapons. Then why do you forbid Iran to have it? With what fright did the BBC decide that Iran is creating nuclear weapons directly to destroy Israel?

          So the BBC is exceptional, because the whole world is obliged to them for the persecution, and Abdullah is not allowed, if nothing else.
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 7 March 2021 11: 21
          +3
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk

          And no one forbade you to create nuclear weapons. Then why do you forbid Iran to have it? With what fright did the BBC decide that Iran is creating nuclear weapons directly to destroy Israel?

          Only because all Iranian leaders openly declare that this is the goal of Iran. Can easily find a lot of these statements.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 7 March 2021 11: 39
            +1
            Quote: Aron Zaavi

            Only because all Iranian leaders openly declare that this is the goal of Iran. Can easily find a lot of these statements.

            Yeah. You might think that you do not know - to promise to marry does not mean to marry. Nobody will touch you if you pursue a peaceful policy in BV. But you, for some reason, are trying to bomb Syria, the Gaza Strip, or Lebanon. All you do not sit at home. Iran, you see, is threatening them! And what are you doing threatening to bomb Iran? And, unlike Iran, they have already done it. And more than once. And Iranian scientists were killed. And this, whatever one may say, is terrorism.
            1. borberd
              borberd 7 March 2021 15: 49
              +1
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Nobody will touch you if you pursue a peaceful policy in BV.

              In BV, he is not a peaceful tenant. And by the way, have you tried to conduct a peaceful policy? Maybe then those wars that you fought and are waging would not have existed.
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Iran, you see, is threatening them! And what are you doing threatening to bomb Iran? And, unlike Iran, they have already done it. And more than once. And Iranian scientists were killed. And this, whatever one may say, is terrorism.

              Israel did not start it. The Iranians in Argentina blew up the Israeli consulate in 1993, then in 1994 they blew up a community center there, killed Israeli consuls, blew up buses with Israeli tourists in Burgas, attacked Israeli embassies in different countries, fired "needles" at Israeli civilian aircraft in Africa ... So they get the same coin, but clearly not enough.
            2. 3danimal
              3danimal 7 March 2021 17: 10
              +2
              You might think that you do not know - to promise to marry does not mean to marry.

              When an Islamist says that his holy goal is to kill you, it makes sense to take revenge on an ambush at a weapons store. The experience of the tragedy of the 20th century taught the Israelis.
              And support for the organization of many terrorist attacks, organizations like Hezbalah, confirms these words.
              Nobody will touch you if you pursue a peaceful policy in BV.

              Are you proposing to vouch right from the couch for the non-aggression of the Ayatollah regime? smile
              But you, for some reason, are trying to bomb Syria, the Gaza Strip, or Lebanon.

              We (RF) do the same when threatening ourselves, no?
              And even a peace treaty does not exist with Syria, after ITS attack on Israel in 1973.
              And Iranian scientists were killed. Whatever one may say, this is terrorism.

              A question of survival. A scientist on the side of a criminal regime can kill hundreds of thousands and millions of people.
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 7 March 2021 21: 39
                -2
                Quote: 3danimal

                A question of survival. A scientist on the side of a criminal regime can kill hundreds of thousands and millions of people.

                And who gave you the right to determine where the criminal regime is and where not? From the position of Iran, the criminal regime is in Israel. And how to be?
                1. 3danimal
                  3danimal 7 March 2021 22: 48
                  +2
                  Let's say vote at the UN. Which side do you think the majority will be on?
                  from Iran's position

                  From the position of the Nazis, the Allies criminally encroached on their right to conquer "living space", and even on territorial integrity at the end (of the war).
                  ISIS also has a position, I believe, diametrically opposed to the coalition working against them.
                  And how to be?
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 12: 17
                    -2
                    Quote: 3danimal

                    Let's say vote at the UN. Which side do you think the majority will be on?

                    Yes, that would be interesting. Taking into account all those decisions and resolutions of the UN that it adopted in relation to Israel, condemning its activities in the BV.
                    1. 3danimal
                      3danimal 8 March 2021 12: 36
                      0
                      So what about the position of the Nazis or ISIS? Suggesting to ignore? smile
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 12: 44
                        -1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        So what about the position of the Nazis or ISIS? Suggesting to ignore? smile

                        What are we talking about now?
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk

                        From the position of Iran, the criminal regime is in Israel. And how to be?

                        Quote: 3danimal

                        Let's say vote at the UN. Which side do you think the majority will be on?

                        And what does ISIS and the Nazis have to do with it? By the way, it was the UN that recognized the identity of the Israeli Zionists and the German Nazis.
                        What do you think?
                      2. 3danimal
                        3danimal 8 March 2021 12: 47
                        0
                        By the way, it was the UN that recognized the identity of the Israeli Zionists and the German Nazis.

                        Proofs in the studio good smile
                      3. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 13: 04
                        -1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Proofs in the studio

                        Wait! Seek and find.
                        I remember it well, there was infa about it in the media.
                      4. 3danimal
                        3danimal 8 March 2021 14: 47
                        +2
                        There was information about the flat earth in the media. And about the "disabled US destroyer" smile
                        Wait!

                        Drain counted wink
                      5. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 15: 33
                        -1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Drain counted

                        Yes, I don't care. Why do I have to prove that the earth is round? Moreover, to provide you with links to scientific monographs on this issue.
                      6. 3danimal
                        3danimal 8 March 2021 15: 42
                        0
                        Why do I have to prove that the earth is round?

                        Just to prove "the UN recognition of Zionists and Nazis as identical." Or admit your mistake.
                        Unless you're a chatterbox, of course.
                      7. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 19: 51
                        -2
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Or admit your mistake.

                        No, this is not a mistake. This is a media report. I emphasize that the media reported this as a UN resolution, and not the opinion of some official.
                        I'm not going to look for a link - "I am old, I am lazy"
                      8. borberd
                        borberd 8 March 2021 22: 08
                        0
                        Media reported, media reported. As reported, they took him back. Or do you have like in that joke about the "stolen" spoons? The Arabs with hangers-on somehow managed to push through such a resolution, which was later canceled by the UN itself. So it's not about old age I suppose laughing
                      9. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 23: 40
                        0
                        Quote: borberd
                        spoons? The Arabs with hangers-on somehow managed to push through such a resolution, which was later canceled by the UN itself. So it's not about old age I suppose

                        I don't know about that.
                      10. borberd
                        borberd 9 March 2021 12: 44
                        0
                        Search for "UN General Assembly Resolution 4686"
  • andreykolesov123
    andreykolesov123 7 March 2021 18: 33
    0
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    then the "Gaza Strip"

    Gaza in quotes? You are a rock band, what do you mean, "Gaza"? No, we will not bomb them, they are great musicians.
  • lucul
    lucul 7 March 2021 13: 05
    +2
    Only because all Iranian leaders openly declare that this is the goal of Iran. Can easily find a lot of these statements.

    So what ????
    Ukraine, too, declares to destroy Russia and the Kremlin, and that now, without fail to destroy Ukraine, so according to your logic?
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 7 March 2021 22: 49
      +2
      Could you give an example when the Ukrainian leadership said this? request
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 7 March 2021 14: 30
    +5
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    With what fright did the BBC decide that Iran is creating nuclear weapons directly to destroy Israel?

    Yes, Bibi is very shy, not only for himself but also for his people, because he has a good memory
    In September 1919, Hitler wrote his first political document, where he declared, that the Jewish question can only be resolved by the complete elimination of Jews from Europe.
    The final decision on a detailed program of mass destruction was made on January 20, 1942 at a conference in Wannsee Dieter Wisliceny, during interrogation at the Nuremberg Tribunal on January 3, 1946, claimed that the period of systematic extermination of Jews in the policy of "final decision" began in 1942.

    AND NOW COMPARE
    Khamenei stated: “The position of Iran, which was first expressed by Imam [Khomeini] ... is that that a cancer called Israel should be eradicated from the region and that the permanent subject of Iran is the elimination of Israel from the region. "
    On November 20, 2013, Khamenei reported to a gathering of 50 militias in Basija, that Israel is ready to fall. "The Zionist regime is a regime whose pillars are extremely shaky and doomed to collapse." - he said. Israelis, he added , "Should not be called people."
    "Imam [Khomeini]
    “According to the Supreme Leader's statement celebrating Navruz, that Tel Aviv and Haifa will be destroyed ...... The Armed Forces are ready with all their strength to fulfill the orders of the Supreme Leader in the shortest possible time. "
    General Mohammad Hedjazi
    Deputy Chief of Staff
    ". We will not give up our [armed] struggle before the destruction of Israel and until we can pray in the Al-Aqsa Mosque. ”
    Brig. General Mohammad Reza Nakdi,
    militia commander basij
    “Enemies talk about options [they have] on the table. They need to know that the first option on our table is to destroy Israel. "
    Chairman of the Assembly of Experts Ayatollah Mohammad Reza Mahdavi Kani
    “The Zionist regime will soon be destroyed, and this generation will witness its destruction. "
    [b
    Hojatoleslam Mohammad Hassan Akhtari
    Hezbollah Operations Representative, Former Ambassador to Syria
    "If once the destruction and death of occupying Israel was an impossible and unattainable dream, today, thanks to the historical and reasonable actions of Imam Khomeini, this has become possible and is actually in the process of implementation."

    Now compare what are the DIFFERENCES
    Correctly no DESTRUCTION OF THE PEOPLE
    I hope you understand that another hitler and Israel WILL NOT ALLOW the extermination of Jews.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 7 March 2021 14: 51
      0
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      On November 20, 2013, Khamenei reported to a gathering of 50 militias in

      So at rallies and not that can be heard. A rally, it is - a rally. At a rally, it is customary to light the crowd, to unite under any idea. It doesn't matter if it will be carried out or not. The main thing is to point out where the enemy is and to say - this is why you live so badly. Find the culprit on the side. (And, by the way, this is not far from the truth.) In Ukraine, the same is being done now. And what, we need to bomb Kiev? I think our leadership is not so stupid as to be led by this.
      But I'm sure your leadership also understands that this is simple - show-off, as they say now. But, with this help, they do not allow the BV countries to develop normally. The main thing is not to fight Iranian nuclear weapons, but not to let Iran develop freely. Hence the sanctions. Do you think that you are the smartest on BV and that no one understands your true intentions?
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 7 March 2021 16: 10
        0
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        So at rallies and not so you can hear

        Yes, I agree with a lot of rallies, they take place shmitings everywhere and everyone says whatever they want.
        But that's the task of the nation DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.
        Without a nuclear Iran, it can say EVERYTHING IT WANTS.
        Imagine that Iraq possessed nuclear weapons, it would have long been in the hands of an igil with the ensuing consequences.
        And nuclear weapons in Syria in the province of Deir ez-Zor, it would have long been in the hands of the igil the same with the ensuing
        the consequences.
        You must thank Israel for that. And at that time the barrels were rolling.
        Today Iran is flirting with Russia, and with nuclear weapons, claims to the Caspian Sea, Azerbaijan and the restoration of the Persian Empire against the infidels will play with renewed vigor.
        But IT WILL NOT HAVE YAO!
        POINTfat!
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 7 March 2021 21: 31
          +1
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin

          But it is the task of the nation TO DESTROY ISRAEL.

          How will you prove that it is the task of the nation? Howls at rallies? This is idle talk.
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 7 March 2021 22: 53
            +1
            But in essence? There are arguments in defense of the fact that idle talk is happening at the rallies of the Islamist (let me remind you, these are fanatics) leadership of Iran?
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 11: 55
              0
              Quote: 3danimal
              There are arguments in defense of the fact that idle talk is happening at the rallies of the Islamist (let me remind you, these are fanatics) leadership of Iran?

              Do you have proof to the contrary?
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 8 March 2021 11: 59
                0
                It was you who said that these are all empty words. To you and prove.
                By default, such voiced goals of the Islamist state are taken seriously in the fall. The experience of Nazi Germany remained.
                Moreover, everything is fixed at the level of laws.

                https://iranwire.com/en/features/8483
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 13: 10
                  0
                  Quote: 3danimal

                  By default, such voiced goals of the Islamist state are taken seriously in the fall.

                  By whom are they perceived? Everyone said to Galya - don't take his words at face value. No, I did. I gave it. The result is known.
                2. 3danimal
                  3danimal 8 March 2021 14: 47
                  +1
                  Well, for lack of arguments, jokes were used negative
                3. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 15: 31
                  0
                  Quote: 3danimal
                  Well, for lack of arguments, jokes were used negative

                  In fact, life is the most powerful argument.
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 8 March 2021 10: 43
        +1
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        How will you prove that it is the task of the nation? Howls at rallies? This is idle talk.

        An unprecedented bill in the 42-year history of the Islamic Republic has been submitted to the Iranian parliament. commits to take measures to "destroy Israel by 2041
        Chairman of the Commission on National Security and Foreign Policy of the Iranian Parliament, Mohtaba Zonnur, called the power of his country's armed forces destructive and threatened Israel with destruction
        I CAN QUOTE WITHOUT END
        But for you it's like a scarecrow on the water.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 12: 10
          0
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          I CAN QUOTE WITHOUT END

          No matter how much you say the word halva, it will not make your mouth sweet.
          I say it again - the Iranian authorities need to unite the nation. What is the easiest way to do this? That's right - find the enemy. Why do we need to unite the people? To crush the fifth column. See what is happening in Ukraine. To destroy the 5th column, the Nazis revived. And also threats to take Kuban, Voronezh, etc. Do you think that they really intend to do this? Do not make me laugh. This is done only to unite the people. The people rallied on these ideas will not greatly resent low wages and pensions, high prices for everything, excessively high communal services. After all, the culprit is indicated. This is the main goal of all these rallies and adopted laws, it is not clear when and by whom the future was fulfilled.
          1. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 8 March 2021 12: 21
            +1
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            I say it again - the Iranian authorities need to unite the nation. What is the easiest way to do this? That's right - find the enemy. Why do we need to unite the people? To crush the fifth column.

            I do not mind, let them rally their people to destroy ANOTHER COUNTRY.
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            See what's happening in Ukraine

            I am writing about Israel, but about Ukraine this is for the litter.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 12: 38
              -2
              Quote: Vitaly Gusin

              I do not mind, let them rally their people to destroy ANOTHER COUNTRY.

              So other countries do not do bad things to Iran the way Israel does. The boil does not sit down for nothing. Is it really incomprehensible?
              Quote: Vitaly Gusin
              I am writing about Israel, but about Ukraine this is for the litter.

              Hmm. And for me Israel is for droppings. How to be? My suggestion is to find a common language. I'm not talking about you and me personally, I'm talking about the BV states. And Israel, which is pursuing the most aggressive policy in the BV, must take the first step. And, before taking this first step, I must stop shelling Syria.
            2. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 8 March 2021 13: 03
              +2
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              So other countries do not do bad things to Iran the way Israel does. The boil does not sit down for nothing. Is it really incomprehensible?

              1 Israel recognizes the state of Iran and Iran NO
              2 Iran every day promises to destroy Israel and Israel only nuclear program
              3 Iran Arms Lebanese Kikhzbala with 100000 Missiles Targeting Israel and Tries to Do It in Syria
              YES ISRAEL ACCEPTS TODAY AND WILL APPLY IN THE FUTURE THAT IRAN DOESN'T HAVE NW
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              And Israel, which is pursuing the most aggressive policy in BV, must take the first step.

              Yes, done not one step.
              Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan, not officially CA
              And on the BV ONLY QATAR LEFT with whom they are also negotiating
              How you lead a nuclear Iran is more frightening than developed Israel.
              THEY ARE DIFFERENT FROM YOU, LOOKS CHANGE
        2. 3danimal
          3danimal 8 March 2021 12: 35
          +2
          I say it again - the Iranian authorities need to unite the nation.

          I am sure many at first said that Hitler should "just unite the nation." Does history teach something?
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 12: 51
            -1
            Quote: 3danimal

            I am sure many at first said that Hitler should "just unite the nation." Does history teach something?

            History teaches that the aggressor is the one who attacks first. You bomb Syria, you bombed Iran, Libya, the Gaza Strip, hence Israel is the AGGRESSOR. Under whatever noble pretext he did it.
          2. 3danimal
            3danimal 8 March 2021 14: 45
            +2
            I am not bombing anyone, you are a narrow-minded person.
            Do you think that a Russian should certainly support the Ayatollahs?
          3. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 15: 39
            0
            Quote: 3danimal
            I am not bombing anyone, you are a narrow-minded person.

            And I'm not talking about you. You are Nobody for me and you are called 3danimal, i.e. - No way.
            Quote: 3danimal
            Do you think that a Russian should certainly support the Ayatollahs?

            In no case. Russian always supports the weak and unjustly offended. It is strange that you still do not understand this.
            The Arabs will offend you UNJUSTLY and we will take your side.
          4. 3danimal
            3danimal 8 March 2021 15: 49
            +2
            Islamists killed 224 of my fellow citizens in 2015 by blowing up a plane over Sinai. And this is just one of the episodes.
            But Israel is no one, can you imagine?
            Unlike the Ayatollah regime, it brings us real benefits. Leisure, medicine, complex operations, technologies.
            Islamists are always dangerous.
          5. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 19: 33
            -1
            Quote: 3danimal
            Islamists are always dangerous.

            I do not argue! Like the Nazis, Zionists, etc.
            Quote: 3danimal

            Unlike the Ayatollah regime, it brings us real benefits. Leisure, medicine, complex operations, technologies.

            This is not a state. relationship rather private. We provide assistance to Syria, Donbass for free. And Israel does us for free: complex operations, organizes recreation, about technologies that are already outdated, I will not even talk about.?
          6. 3danimal
            3danimal 8 March 2021 19: 48
            +2
            And Israel does us for free: complex operations, organizes rest

            Let me remind you, secular Israel.
            And Islamist Iran does not do this at all.
            Like the Nazis, Zionists, etc.

            Stop throwing fakes already.
          7. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 8 March 2021 20: 14
            +1
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            I do not argue! Like the Nazis, Zionists, etc.

            Sorry to interrupt, but just a small note
            Under pressure from the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Zionism turned into something terrible to represent Jews who want to repatriate to Israel as enemies of the people
            And in reality, Zionism from the name of Mount Zion in Jerusalem is a political movement, the purpose of which is the unification and revival of the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel (Eretz Yisrael),
            DOT!
            EVERYTHING ELSE IS LIES!
          8. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 00: 09
            0
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            Under pressure from the Central Committee of the Soviet Union, Zionism became

            Yes exactly. As well as - under the pressure of the VKPB, German Nazism (in fact, white and fluffy) turned into a terrible fascism.
            "Don't waste your godfather, get down to the bottom."
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 8 March 2021 16: 01
      +2
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      In no case. Russian always supports the weak and unjustly offended.

      Who are the Hungarians or the Czechs, or maybe the Crimean Tatars?
      Is that why KYMNASH?
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      The Arabs will offend you UNJUSTLY and we will take your side.

      So the CSIR in Syria is preparing to "offend" us and Russia is helping us without your personal help to us and we are Russia.
      You do not have to worry how we coped in five wars without your support ת and today it is even more so.
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 19: 47
      -1
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      Who are the Hungarians or the Czechs, or maybe the Crimean Tatars?

      And how have we offended them? Especially the Crimean Tatars. In Crimea, Russia helped the Russians, who were oppressed by Ukraine by closing schools with Russian as the language of instruction, a ban on Russian, etc., to return to their homeland. There, where Crimea was until 1954. By the way, the Tatar language in Crimea, like Ukrainian, is a state language, along with Russian. So how have we offended the Tatars? They have the right to elect and be elected. Do you have many Arabs in the Knesset? And in the government? Look at the Russian Duma, at its ethnic composition.
      So - lo beseder. (sorry for the spelling)
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      So the Ksir in Syria is preparing to "offend" us

      This song is good start over. And all of you, the poor, want to offend. Everyone wants, wants, but they will not offend. So maybe all these "Wishlist" is your idea? This is a rhetorical question.
    4. 3danimal
      3danimal 8 March 2021 19: 55
      0
      a ban on the Russian language, etc., to return to their homeland

      There, half of the country still speaks Russian, including TV.
      And how could the travel ban be implemented? Don't you confuse it with the USSR?
    5. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 23: 43
      0
      Quote: 3danimal

      There, half of the country still speaks Russian, including TV.
      And how could the travel ban be implemented? Don't you confuse it with the USSR?

      From my post you made a vinaigrette. And how do you manage it?
      What kind of departure are we talking about? What does the USSR have to do with it?
    6. 3danimal
      3danimal 9 March 2021 00: 04
      0
      Sorry, I read wrong about returning hi
      But where is the ban on speaking Russian? This clearly did not apply to the same 95th quarter, many people use Russian in their everyday life.
    7. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 13: 26
      0
      Quote: 3danimal
      many people use Russian at home.

      And they continue to use it. It is impossible to force everyone to speak MOV overnight. But ... The ban on the use of the Russian language in the state began. and public institutions, in shops, etc. There are already cases of dismissals for using the Russian language.
    8. 3danimal
      3danimal 9 March 2021 13: 30
      0
      There are already cases of dismissals for using the Russian language.

      This is nonsense, to be honest.
      The same Zelensky has the majority of speeches before the presidency in Russian request
    9. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 23: 07
      0
      Quote: 3danimal
      This is nonsense, to be honest.

      Well, nonsense, so nonsense. You know better there.
    10. 3danimal
      3danimal 9 March 2021 23: 20
      0
      Me here (in the Krasnoyarsk Territory) nifig is not visible. negative
    11. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 23: 23
      0
      Quote: 3danimal
      Me here (in the Krasnoyarsk Territory) nifig is not visible. negative

      Then why write about nonsense? I have friends in Ukraine, so I have information not from the media. Everything is sad there.
    12. 3danimal
      3danimal 9 March 2021 23: 31
      0
      I have colleagues who have relatives there. They say that more than half of Kiev speaks Russian.
      And I watched "vartal 95" at one time.
    13. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 10 March 2021 09: 43
      0
      Quote: 3danimal
      They say that more than half of Kiev speaks Russian.

      Am I saying the opposite? I just assert that they began to fight with the Russian language in a serious way, at the level of legislation.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 8 March 2021 20: 39
    +2
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    And how have we offended them?

    1956 On the night of October 24, about 6000 Soviet army personnel, 290 tanks, 120 armored personnel carriers, 156 guns were brought into Budapest. Some of the Hungarian soldiers and police went over to the side of the rebels. According to statistics, in connection with the uprising and hostilities in the period from October 23 to December 31, 1956, 2652 Hungarian rebels, 348 civilians were killed, and 19 people were wounded.
    1968 Prague
    The political goal of the operation was to change the political leadership of the country and establish a regime loyal to the USSR in Czechoslovakia.
    USSR - 18 motorized rifle, tank and airborne divisions, 22 aviation and helicopter regiments, about 170 people;
    The suppression of the Prague Spring increased the disillusionment of many Western leftists with the theory of Marxism-Leninism and contributed to the growth of ideas of "Eurocommunism" among the leadership and members of Western communist parties - which subsequently led to a split in many of them. The communist parties of Western Europe have lost mass support, since the impossibility of "socialism with a human face" was practically shown
    Ukraine recognized the Crimean Tatars in March 2014 indigenous people of Crimea and came out with a guarantee of the preservation of their identity. But at this time the peninsula was already under the de facto control of Russia. The life of the Crimean Tatars in the annexation of Crimea has changed: pressure and arrest Of the 186 searches carried out in Crimea, 140 fall on private homes, businesses, or a meeting place for Crimean Tatars, according to a recent UN report on human rights in occupied Crimea.
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Do you have many Arabs in the Knesset?

    Yes there is a party Joint Arabic List
    The party advocates the creation of a Palestinian state (in the West Bank and Gaza) with the capital in Jerusalem, and for the equality of Israeli Arabs.
    Majority of voters - Israeli Arab nationalists and religious Arabs; popular among Israeli Bedouins.
    Do you have a party in the Duma that stands for withdrawal of troops from Crimea and transfer to Ukraine?
    Or maybe it's enough to drive a blizzard?
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 13: 56
    0
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    1956 On the night of October 24 in Budapest

    Let me remind you - Czechoslovakia and Hungary, at that time, bordered on the USSR, were members of the military-political bloc "Warsaw Pact" and members of the CMEA. I will not even ask what Washington, London, Paris, etc. would have done if they were in the place of Moscow, for the obvious answer. Give the same detailed information on the actions of your allies in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Vietnam and other places, which, incidentally, are very remote from their borders
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin

    Back in March 2014, Ukraine recognized the Crimean Tatars as an indigenous people of Crimea and came up with a guarantee of preserving their identity.

    And for 60 years of Ukraine's domination in Crimea, who prevented her from doing this? So, "confession" is primitive hypocrisy. And the fact that Russia has given the Tatar language the status of the state language on the territory of Crimea is a real fact.
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    Crimean Tatars have changed in the annexation of Crimea: pressure and arrest Of the 186 searches conducted in Crimea, 140 fall on private homes, businesses, or a place of meeting of Crimean Tatars, according to a recent UN report on rights

    Well, everything is correct, but how else?
    = Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami = extremist Crimean Tatar organization, banned on the territory of the Russian Federation. It is its members who are arrested. What's wrong?
    You do not hesitate to bomb the territory of a sovereign state, referring to the fact that you are destroying terrorists. Can't we do it on our own, in Crimea? Double approach, it is only in frostbitten on the whole head. Decide for yourself, which one are you?
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin

    Do you have a party in the Duma that advocates the withdrawal of troops from Crimea and the transfer to Ukraine?

    Well, it is only in Israel that it is possible to create a party for the solution of one single issue. Our people are a little smarter. laughing
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 9 March 2021 15: 35
    +2
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Our people are a little smarter.

    Yes, they are very smart, but they live worse than some countries in AFRICA!
    And how Russians are received in Europe and Turkey, I saw with my own eyes, and in hotels that would not take me for a Russian, especially in Prague and Warsaw, I speak either Hebrew or English.
    Do not lie themselves and the rest already know everything!
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 22: 49
    0
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    And how Russians are received in Europe and Turkey, I saw with my own eyes and in

    That's right. Who will love those who have fucked them, without their consent, and more than once.
    And the Turks remember, I hope, and Europe is obliged to remember who saved them.
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 8 March 2021 13: 57
    +1
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    Now compare what are the DIFFERENCES
    Correctly no DESTRUCTION OF THE PEOPLE
    I hope you understand that Israel WILL NOT ALLOW one more Hitler and the extermination of Jews.

    Is that why he is raising his Hitler?
  • Quadro
    Quadro 7 March 2021 11: 00
    +2
    Shooter, only we do not poke at some DPRK with cries of "it is necessary to bomb their nuclear facilities", as far as we all know, the number is regulated by an international treaty and there is no denial "we do not have it."
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 7 March 2021 11: 34
    +1
    Aaron, how many nuclear warheads do you have that “Israel doesn’t have, but we can hit the enemy with it?” Is that what Golda Meyer said? ??
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 March 2021 14: 04
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      Aaron, how many nuclear warheads do you have that “Israel doesn’t have, but we can hit the enemy with it?” Is that what Golda Meyer said? ??

      I will be responsible for Aron - enough for complete peace in the entire Middle East wink
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 8 March 2021 06: 34
        0

        Krasnodar
        Yesterday, 14: 04
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        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        Aaron, how many nuclear warheads do you have that “Israel doesn’t have, but we can hit the enemy with it?” Is that what Golda Meyer said? ??

        I will be responsible for Aron - wink is enough for complete peace in the entire Middle East
        "And we will go north, and we will go north!" IZ M \ F character jackal Tabaki
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 8 March 2021 09: 43
          +2
          So they grew up. It's time to watch more serious works of Soviet cinema, for example Buratino fellow .
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 8 March 2021 11: 10
            -1

            Krasnodar
            Today, 09: 43
            NEW

            0
            So they grew up. It's time to watch more serious works of Soviet cinema, for example, Buratino fellow
            Yes! Does the fox Alice resemble anyone? Well, okay, "today the girls have a holiday." Just don't get sick.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 8 March 2021 12: 35
              +1
              Fox Alice ... Collar? laughing
              I congratulate you on the 8th of March, I wish you success in your personal life hi
      2. aszzz888
        aszzz888 8 March 2021 07: 53
        -1

        Krasnodar
        Yesterday, 14: 04

        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        Aaron, how many nuclear warheads do you have that “Israel doesn’t have, but we can hit the enemy with it?” Is that what Golda Meyer said? ??

        I will be responsible for Aron - enough for complete peace in the entire Middle East wink
        And who gave you the right to be responsible for "the whole world in the entire Middle East"? Who are you - the head of state, or what? Or another world gendarme ?, so one - merikatos - already exists, and no matter how you pull on the second one with all your brothers tongue laughing wassat
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 8 March 2021 09: 45
          0
          lol
          And then I thought the question was about the number of nuclear weapons in Israel)).
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 8 March 2021 11: 09
            0

            Krasnodar
            Today, 09: 45
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            0
            lol
            And then I thought the question was about the number of nuclear weapons in Israel)).
            Who are you holding us for? We already know! laughing
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 8 March 2021 12: 33
              0
              Do you ask yourself questions that you yourself answer? laughing
    2. 3danimal
      3danimal 7 March 2021 22: 59
      +4
      Just a sober calculation:
      Israel is a secular state, where many former compatriots, relatives of Russian citizens live, where our citizens go for rest and treatment (including carrying out complex operations for children), from which we bought samples of technology (drones).
      Iran, a country where for about 40 years the group of Islamist fanatics who usurped power has ruled. Which really does NOT connect us with anything, moreover, a lot of negative things can be expected with the existing ambitions and messiahship.
      And which side do you prefer the presence of nuclear weapons ??
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 March 2021 12: 40
    -5

    Aron Zaawi (Aron)
    Today, 10: 50

    -4
    Quote: Quadro
    As always, we can illegally have nuclear weapons, but Iran cannot. We are exceptional and chosen by God.

    The representative of a country with 1500 YaB said.
    We have every right. Everything is in the Law with the UN principles. And what about this case in Israel? Can you clarify? Or also in the law))? bully
  • lucul
    lucul 7 March 2021 13: 04
    +1
    The representative of a country with 1500 YaB said.

    There would be no "this country" - there would be no one to stop Hitler.
    Then you yourself document ...
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 7 March 2021 23: 00
      +1
      Don't change the subject. It's about the possession of nuclear weapons here and now.
  • andreykolesov123
    andreykolesov123 7 March 2021 13: 35
    +2
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Quadro
    As always, we can illegally have nuclear weapons, but Iran cannot. We are exceptional and chosen by God.

    The representative of a country with 1500 YaB said.

    The drawings of which were transferred by American and German Jews, and recreated by Soviet Jews.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 7 March 2021 15: 52
      +2
      Quote: andreykolesov123
      The drawings of which were transferred by American and German Jews, and recreated by Soviet Jews.

      Those. Nuclear weapons created by the Jews?
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 33
        +2
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Quote: andreykolesov123
        The drawings of which were transferred by American and German Jews, and recreated by Soviet Jews.

        Those. Nuclear weapons created by the Jews?

        Manhattan Project - 70 percent.
        The project of the USSR - 50 percent.
        Not taking into account intelligence - there is also at least half.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 7 March 2021 16: 37
          0
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Quote: Lara Croft
          Quote: andreykolesov123
          The drawings of which were transferred by American and German Jews, and recreated by Soviet Jews.

          Those. Nuclear weapons created by the Jews?

          Manhattan Project - 70 percent.
          The project of the USSR - 50 percent.
          Not taking into account intelligence - there is also at least half.

          And the fact that scientific work on the creation of nuclear weapons began with the British with the French even before WWI, you do not know?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 59
            +1
            Of course, in the know. Algebra Greeks. The ancients began. And without her, what are the calculations? request
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 7 March 2021 17: 01
              0
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Of course, in the know. Algebra Greeks. The ancients began. And without her, what are the calculations? request

              Have you heard about Arabic numerals? Or they just had numbers without calculations.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 21
                0
                Arabs brought them from India laughing
                Arabic contribution to algebra - logarithms and, EMNIP, degrees. Extracting roots kind of too
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 7 March 2021 17: 26
                  0
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Arabs brought them from India laughing
                  Arabic contribution to algebra - logarithms and, EMNIP, degrees. Extracting roots kind of too

                  Okay, laughed and that's enough ...
                  Better tell us when the Israeli Jews will return the working people of the SAR of the Golan?
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                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 33
                    +3
                    Never again, in the foreseeable future. Unstable country. Let's say, they would have given it 10 years ago, they would have had to take it back, tk. it is not clear who would appear on them.
                    Perhaps, in the course of a very long political process with guarantors in the form of Russia and the United States, it will be possible, in exchange for peace and the establishment of diplomatic relations, to give them up following the example of Sinai. The question is whether the representative of the national minority, Assad, needs to repeat the fate of Sadat, then dooming his people to genocide.
                    There must be very serious changes in Syria. Political, historical, economic. hi
                  3. 3danimal
                    3danimal 8 March 2021 12: 11
                    +1
                    Yeah, to the working people laughing
                    When there is confidence that these heights will never be used for shelling Israeli settlements.
                    Syria was offered to conclude a peace treaty in the early 2000s.
                2. 3danimal
                  3danimal 8 March 2021 12: 08
                  +1
                  All this was before the refusal of development, conditioned by religion. The consequence was a semi-colonial / colonial position in the "era of empires".
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 8 March 2021 13: 55
    0
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    The representative of a country with 1500 YaB said.

    As you liberals like to say - "this is different." laughing
  • Avior
    Avior 7 March 2021 11: 00
    +7
    Not very exceptional.
    This list of exclusives includes India, Israel, Pakistan and South Sudan that have not yet signed the NPT. From the legal point of view, there is no prohibition on nuclear weapons for them.
    A more complicated issue with the DPRK, which was a member of the NPT, but got out of it.
  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 10: 39
    -10%
    Bravo Israel! I support you! One state really fights against state terror!
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 7 March 2021 10: 42
      +3
      Are the Israelis starting to fight themselves? Great!
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 10: 46
        -6
        Are you seriously? Or irony? Or are you Antisimit? I'm so Russian, but I'm on the side of Israel only because the Iranian leadership wants Israel to destroy
        Why do you write stupid and naive comments?
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 7 March 2021 10: 51
          +5
          Quote: Holuay T.O.
          Are you seriously? Or irony? Or are you Antisimit? I'm so Russian, but I'm on the side of Israel only because the Iranian leadership wants Israel to destroy
          Why do you write stupid and naive comments?

          About flooded wretched delusional crap in the style of "you are an anti-Semite." Listen, Semite, Russians died many times more in the war, Slavs were driven into slavery until the 18th century, so put your nonsense about anti-Semitism in one place.
          1. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 10: 52
            -6
            Your opinion, but do not impose it on me, people in the psychological complex minus ...
            To you ... you also switched
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 7 March 2021 10: 57
          +5
          Once I remembered anti-Semitism, therefore, there are no intelligible arguments. And it won't.
          Are you, by any chance, anti-Aryan?
          1. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 11: 00
            -9
            I am perplexed ... There are so many people in our country for xenophobia ... and you are free
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 7 March 2021 11: 04
              +5
              Where does such a nervous reaction come from? Are you worried about Israel? Or am I guessing and you are really anti-Aryan?
              Don't take it personally. It is far from our borders, but the women's holiday is close.
              But if anything, I know some good calming breathing exercises.
              1. Holuay T.O
                Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 11: 07
                -10%
                It is strange that fellow Jews are tolerant of xenophobia on your part, if you are a citizen of Russia, you should not do this, we have it so strictly with this ... and they can really be imprisoned, the guarantor of the constitution keeps it under control!
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 7 March 2021 11: 08
                  +4
                  You, where is it?
                  1. Holuay T.O
                    Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 11: 09
                    -13%
                    In Russia. Or have you decided for yourself that no one in Russia can support Israel in the confrontation with terror? Where such confidence? Or have you privatized the concept of a Russian patriot for yourself? So I am a Russian patriot!
                    1. Pereira
                      Pereira 7 March 2021 11: 12
                      +6
                      Why is there such confidence that Russia cannot support Iran, Syria and the Palestinians?
                      Name an article in the RF Criminal Code for supporting Syria against Israel.
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              2. Quadro
                Quadro 7 March 2021 11: 14
                +10
                Quote: Pereira
                Where does such a nervous reaction come from? Are you worried about Israel? Or am I guessing and you are really anti-Aryan?
                Don't take it personally. It is far from our borders, but the women's holiday is close.
                But if anything, I know some good calming breathing exercises.

                So he believes that in front of him we should crawl on our knees, simply because he is a Jew. And we do not demand to crawl in front of us and do not call everyone Russophobes. And they have an inferiority complex, except for whining, apparently there is nothing.
                1. Holuay T.O
                  Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 11: 27
                  -1
                  I am Russian, I am from Samara
                  I honestly expressed my support for Israel in the fight against terror, realizing that for some time now it is dangerous to do here
                  1. lucul
                    lucul 7 March 2021 13: 10
                    0
                    I am Russian, I am from Samara
                    I honestly expressed my support for Israel in the fight against terror, realizing that for some time now it is dangerous to do here

                    "You can believe me, I am Crimean, the daughter of an officer ..."))))
                    1. borberd
                      borberd 8 March 2021 22: 37
                      0
                      I believe! Wow, the first time I see the daughter of an officer named Vitaly.
                      Then from the 8th March. laughing
            2. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 7 March 2021 16: 03
              -3
              Quote: Holuay T.O.
              We have so many people sitting for xenophobia ... and you are free

              But this you sit for xenophobia, and we are not with you.
        3. lucul
          lucul 7 March 2021 13: 08
          +3
          Are you seriously? Or irony? Or are you Antisimit? I'm so Russian, but I'm on the side of Israel only because the Iranian leadership wants Israel to destroy

          Under the table )))
          Another daughter of an officer)))
    2. Holuay T.O
      Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 10: 49
      -14%
      Antisimites minus, xenophobia rules
      1. Quadro
        Quadro 7 March 2021 11: 04
        +7
        It is better to be an anti-Semite than to sprinkle ashes on your head and lick the feet of the Semites (and to the Jews, the Arabs are also Semites) just because they were killed by 5 Lyams, which is already up to 20 Russian Lyams, who were previously driven into slavery. When the Jews at that time were fattening bankers, you would think sometimes they would beat you with sticks. Better than plowing your whole life for a Mongolian, Frenchman or Arab.
        1. Holuay T.O
          Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 11: 05
          -13%
          Horror ... how do you live with it?
          1. Until Ger
            Until Ger 7 March 2021 11: 09
            +11
            Anti-Semitism from scratch
            does not appear.
            "According to your business.
            And attitude towards you. "
            Well, a look from the outside ...
          2. Quadro
            Quadro 7 March 2021 11: 11
            +8
            Quote: Holuay T.O.
            Horror ... how do you live with it?

            I live normally, unlike bruised bots like you, which in any case scream "anti-Semite !!!"
      2. lucul
        lucul 7 March 2021 13: 14
        +4
        Antisimites minus, xenophobia rules

        I was always amused - if you ask a Russian - if he is Russian and he always proudly answers, yes I am Russian. If you ask a Tatar, he also answers with pride, I am a Tatar, you ask a German, and he also proudly answers that he is German, and even if you ask a Chukchi, he will also proudly answer that he is a Chukchi.
        But if you ask a Jew - and there is always one answer - are you an anti-Semite? ))))
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 7 March 2021 14: 13
          -2
          Quote: lucul

          I was always amused - if you ask a Russian - if he is Russian and he always proudly answers, yes I am Russian. If you ask a Tatar, he also answers with pride, I am a Tatar, you ask a German, and he also proudly answers that he is German, and even if you ask a Chukchi, he will also proudly answer that he is a Chukchi.
          But if you ask a Jew - and there is always one answer - are you an anti-Semite? ))))

          Ghm In kind? lol For example, did they ask Kobzon? At Rotenberg? ))
          1. Until Ger
            Until Ger 7 March 2021 14: 31
            0
            laughing But Yakubovich, Makarevich, Solovyov,
            Posner .....
            For some reason they react so nervously
            hints about
            its origin ...))
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 35
              +2
              Quote: Do Ger
              laughing But Yakubovich, Makarevich, Solovyov,
              Posner .....
              For some reason they react so nervously
              hints about
              its origin ...))

              Yakubovich - yes, Makarevich - I don't know, he is baptized, Soloviev emphasizes his Jewishness, and Posner never hid, even though he was baptized in Catholicism
    3. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 7 March 2021 12: 13
      0
      Bravo Israel! I support you! One state really fights against state terror!

      It is clear ... what kind of Jew would be against Israel's policy of terror against neighboring states.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 March 2021 14: 18
        0
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Bravo Israel! I support you! One state really fights against state terror!

        It is clear ... what kind of Jew would be against Israel's policy of terror against neighboring states.

        I! I am against the dastardly strikes of Israel on Syria! Due to the legal Nazi party in Syria, it is necessary to leave three points in this country:
        1) Embassy of the Russian Federation in Damascus;
        2) Tartus;
        3) Khmeimim.
        The rest must be urgently evacuated to Antarctica to build Arab National Socialism (BAAS) and Social Nationalism (the second largest Syrian party - SSNP) on a separate continent.
        Here is a link to it:
        https://www.google.ru/amp/s/m.lenta.ru/articles/2017/03/20/syrian_ns/amp/
        1. Vlad world
          Vlad world 7 March 2021 17: 50
          -2
          And what should be left in the Legal Nazi state-Israel.
          At one time, the UN recognized this.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 7 March 2021 17: 58
            +1
            What did it admit? laughing Is Zionism a Form of Racism and Racial Discrimination? (One of the points of such recognition was that the Jews did not rape the Arab women, seizing the territories. Like they disdained, not counting the people. And unacceptable among neighbors in such a situation is the neglect of handsome young men and okay pack cattle? am This is not in the Middle East! negative )
            Where is National Socialism, ala German, Syrian or Lebanese?
            But I’ll answer your question without making a mistake - what can they do? lol
            1. Vlad world
              Vlad world 7 March 2021 18: 23
              -3
              So you recognize the fact of recognition of Israel as a Nazi State.

              For your development - the Jews (Zionist elite) Raised Hitler for the promise of squeezing out the Jews. To create Israel. The volunteers did not want to massively go to Palestine so they lived Not bad. Well, when it gets hot, they run and the main thing is not expensive.
              After all, it was not in vain that Jews fought on Hitler's side in the Middle East until 43, inclusive. And there were enough of them in the Wehrmacht.
              Well, as usual, Hitler was thrown and when he asked for help - Hess's flight to England. And only then began the destruction of His Jews.
              Soviet Jews were not considered their own at the top at that time, since they participated in the leadership and did not fulfill the agreements for 17 years.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 March 2021 18: 36
                +4
                Once again - where in the UN General Assembly Resolution 3379 he was recognized as a Nazi? lol He was recognized as racist - they did not rape Arabs and Arabs, as well as their pets and so on
                She raised not only Hitler, but also Chipolina. Enemy of your beloved Garlic.
                Jews fought for Hitler from 1812 to 1945, under the leadership of Bonaparte, Vlasov and Hirohito.
                Yavrei Mufti of Jerusalem HajjAmin El Husseini organized the Jewish SS Hajar Division.
                Was Hitler thrown into Hessa's plane with Golda Meir or Barbra Streisand? If from the first - it is Zionism, from the second - a mockery of the veteran of the First World War.
                The Soviet Jews have not yet fulfilled the agreements with the Macedonian, but what was this Poz Schicklgruber expecting? Hermitage on a silver platter?
                1. Vlad world
                  Vlad world 7 March 2021 20: 39
                  -4
                  Expected. When there is nothing to answer the Truth, deliberately idiotic-humorous comments are used. Like, the last word is mine.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 8 March 2021 09: 22
                    0
                    Since the recognition of Israel by the UN as Nazi - everything is clear truth laughing
                    1. Vlad world
                      Vlad world 8 March 2021 14: 38
                      -3
                      About the hostilities on the side of Hitler, this means we do not see and are silent.
                      And Zionism is Nazi ideology - how many goyim (slaves) are there to serve one Jew and how many slaves-Slavs Hitler promised for one German. There is a difference or how.
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 March 2021 15: 14
                        +1
                        ROA and Shkuro - it was.
                        About Jews - except for the soldiers of the Finnish army and Italians, I don't remember
                        What does Zionism have to do with the slaves of the goyim? lol
                      2. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 20: 17
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                        ROA and Shkuro - it was.

                        Hello Krasnodar.
                        Something your memory is selective. And mine tells me - more than 10 thousand Jews in the Wehrmacht uniform were taken prisoner by the Red Army. Those. taken prisoner in battle.
                        And yes, the UN equated Zionism with Nazism. I meant ideology. Remind you of what the "Shulchan Aruch" teaches or not? What peoples have something like this?
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 March 2021 20: 36
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                        Greetings! hi
                        Not in the form of the Wehrmacht - the so-called. Hungarian workers' battalions of Transylvanian and Hungarian Jews. They were sent to the war to do chores and mine, they were not given weapons. Families were held hostage in case of desertion. Out of 40 thousand, 13 survived, almost all surrendered to the Red Army. In the Finnish form, the Jews, yes - were captured in battle.
                        The UN did not equate Zionism with Nazism. Towards apartheid and racial discrimination. UN General Assembly Resolution 3379 - google.
                        Remind about Shulkhan Aruch, the question that you read - Rabbi Joseph Karo, who wrote it, or fakes in Russian - I read one such question. TNT is resting laughing
                      4. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 00: 02
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                        Not in Wehrmacht uniform

                        It is in her. The NKVD is a serious organization, therefore - the title, position, nationality, religion, who he was before the war, etc., etc., and so on. They sucked out every detail. By the way, there were also officers.
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                        racial discrimination.

                        And how is racial discrimination different from Nazism? Maybe by the fact that it does not kill immediately, but gradually?
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                        Remind about Shulkhan Aruch, the question that you read - Rabbi Joseph Karo, who wrote it, or fakes in Russian - I read one such question. TNT is resting

                        Excerpts, quite voluminous, I read from an American author, a researcher of Zionism. If I remember the name of the author, I will let you know in a personal.
                      5. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 March 2021 00: 21
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                        laughing Jews from the Wehrmacht were driven out in 1939, even before the Polish company. They left with 10 specialists, several hundred halves were mobilized during the war, tens of thousands of quaternaries, which Hitler did not consider Jews, were called up with restrictions (not SS, not pilots, not paratroopers).
                        The one that does not kill at all)). Has the Pale of Settlement killed someone? (I'm not talking about pogroms). In addition, the decision was made in 1975, following:
                        1) An unsuccessful attempt to reclaim the territories lost in the Six Day War of 1973
                        2) the 1974 oil embargo
                        3) Failure of other anti-Israeli measures of the Arab world.
                        It was accepted by the Arabs with the support of the socialist camp and the countries of the Third World.
                        Canceled in 1991.
                        Yes, Zionism has something to do with Shulkhan Arukh, especially with his fakes. laughing
                        One of them is a rather weighty brochure, with a hundred pages.
                        A very large part of the founders of Zionism were generally unbelievers, the absolute majority did not observe traditions. What does religion have to do with it? ))
                      6. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 13: 19
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                        Jews from the Wehrmacht were driven out in 1939,

                        laughing All this is a fiction of Zionist propaganda.
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                        Has the Pale of Settlement killed someone? (I'm not talking about pogroms).

                        This is what the Jewish pogrom was like - Ivan Aksakov "Liberals about the rout of the Jews" -
                        = Now the mass reprisal against the Jews, thank God, has stopped: another reprisal has begun - an administrative one, as well as a Jewish reprisal - against the people themselves. An investigation is being actively carried out, some of it has already been investigated, a trial is under way, and its results are already so well known that they allow a correct and impartial assessment of events. If the "bosses" for a long time and stubbornly, but completely incorrectly kept the humble name of "riots" for them, then another expression, launched by some part of our press and its helpful correspondents - "beating the Jews", is also mistaken. It was precisely the beating that did not happen - and this, of course, is extremely remarkable. One may even be surprised at such self-control of the dispersed, apparently unbridled, masses of the people. It cannot be said that the crowds were completely unarmed: they did not, of course, have firearms, but they did have axes and crowbars; however, they were used only as a weapon of destruction, not slaughter. We will be shown, perhaps, two, three separate cases of beating, but what do these two, three cases mean, where there could be thousands of them? And these cases were caused by the armed resistance of the Jews themselves; of which many stocked up with revolvers, fired from them into the crowd and irritated them. According to all data, there are as many beaten Jews as Russians beaten by Jews, if not less. Another distinguishing feature of this movement is the absence of robbery. It was not a robbery, it was a destruction of Jewish property, a savage, violent, violent, but disinterested destruction: this is its main general characteristic, which cannot be changed by some random exceptions.
                        More details on livelib.ru:
                        https://www.livelib.ru/book/174692/read-evrejskij-vopros-ivan-aksakov/~6
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                        If I remember the name of the author, I will let you know in a personal.

                        If memory serves - David Duke.
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                        What does religion have to do with it? ))

                        And where I say that Zionism is a purely religious movement. Zionism is a political movement mixed with the Shulchan Aruch dogmas. And this is by no means a fake.
                        Different sources, different translators cannot lie in the same way.
                      7. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 March 2021 13: 40
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                        laughing This is all fiction of Zionist propaganda.


                        ] 1934, Germany. Jewish students were banned from taking exams in medical and legal specialties. Jews are forbidden to be military personnel.
                        Source: https://history-thema.com/hronika-diskriminatsii-evreev-natsistskoj-germaniej/

                        Mischling of the second degree, a quarter Jew, was a person with one Jewish grandfather or one Jewish grandmother, or an Aryan married to a Jew or a Jewess. In 1939, there were 72 Mishlings in the first degree and 000 in the second degree in Germany. The attitude of the Nazis towards persons of mixed German-Jewish origin was regulated by racial laws, additions to them and individual instructions of the authorities. In particular, persons with a quarter of Jewish blood were considered Germans. A number of people of mixed origin even served in the Wehrmacht. The most senior of these was Field Marshal Erhard Milch, Goering's deputy, inspector general of the Luftwaffe. His mother was German and his father Jewish. And in order to solve the problem of his origin, it was recorded that his "real" father was his mother's lover, Baron Hermann von Beer.

                        Whose propaganda is there? lol
                        2) I wrote - I'm not about pogroms.
                        3) David Duke is like a mirror image of Novodvorskaya, only in the other direction (anti-Semite, anti-Soviet, Kukluksklanist). And carried the same bullshit.
                        Have you read the Shulchan Aruch in the original? I read. And I read this fake, many fufloplets refer to it)).
                      8. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 23: 04
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                        3) David Duke is like a mirror image of Novodvorskaya, only in the other direction (anti-Semite, anti-Soviet, Kukluksklanist). And carried the same bullshit.

                        Just about, almost immediately - an anti-Semite.
                        What makes you think that I believe you?
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                        Have you read the Shulchan Aruch in the original?

                        Of course not. I don't know Yiddish or Hebrew.
                        Listen to you, so the Jews are so white and fluffy and everyone slanders them, the poor. You might think that everyone has nothing else to do, how to compose all sorts of stories about you.
                        Did Aksakov also compose? And to answer the question - how did it happen that people smashed Jewish property without killing or robbing the owners? So they took it and for no apparent reason began to destroy? So what?
                        How many journalists researching the history of the Holocaust were imprisoned in Europe for doing this? Why can't you investigate this?
                      9. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 10 March 2021 05: 41
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                        Do not believe me - read about this character, even in Russian, even in English. Analogue of Nlvodvorskaya, only in the other direction))
                        About slander - a friend of my wife's average income, before going to an expensive restaurant with live music, told that there prosecutors get drunk in the trash and fight with the special services under the influence of drugs. I was very surprised after visiting this institution and not noticing the lewdness laughing There is always gossip about everything unknown and far from you, especially if you dislike this group of people, for various reasons. And if, as in the case of the Jews, it is signed by the church, for example, then fairy tales and exaggerations grow exponentially.
                        Without robbing or killing the owners?
                        The pogrom in Chisinau in 1903 - 50 people were killed (38 of them were Jews), about 600 were beaten, a third of the city's households were damaged and looted
                        property was immediately subjected to complete destruction. ... [the goods] were partly destroyed on the spot, partly plundered by those who followed the thugs

                        The Jews defended themselves - yes, but in Odessa they were imprisoned for this.
                        Regarding Holocaust research, no one is against - those who talk about the "Auschwitz sanatorium" are imprisoned, which contradicts what the Red Army soldiers and the Americans saw at the end of the war.
                      10. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 10 March 2021 09: 38
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                        Do not believe me - read about this character, even in Russian, even in English. Analogue of Nlvodvorskaya, only in the other direction))

                        I don't care what others say about him. Lermontov was hated here, they say, a scoundrel and a brawler. But this did not stop him from being a great poet. For what? For being a brawler? Or because he wrote amazing poems and poems? By the way, if someone tells me something about you, I will not pay any attention to it. Only personal acquaintance and communication forms my opinion about him. The opinion of others about a person does not interest me.
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                        And if, as in the case of the Jews, it is signed by the church, for example, then fairy tales and exaggerations grow exponentially.

                        What did you mean? What's signed by the church there?
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                        Regarding Holocaust research, no one is against - those who talk about the "Auschwitz sanatorium" are imprisoned, which contradicts what the Red Army soldiers and the Americans saw at the end of the war.

                        Nonsense. They are imprisoned because they doubt that the muffle furnace in Auschwitz could work with such a performance.
                      11. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 10 March 2021 09: 57
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                        Yes, but he distorts the facts and popularizes fakes and inventions.
                        Christ was crucified, your father the devil and other inventions and quotations taken out of context, inciting the population against Jews who did not accept Christianity, at the same time competing with the clergy in managing the affairs of landowners, etc.
                        Plant not for doubting the performance of the oven laughing For denying the Holocaust and for supporting the policy of the Nazis, they are imprisoned. As for the stoves, google, there were courts with evidence from representatives of Jewish organizations and historians.
                      12. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 10 March 2021 11: 55
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                        Yes, but he distorts the facts and popularizes fakes and inventions.

                        You were told that he distorts the facts. Is not it so? But how really?
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                        Christ was crucified, your father the devil and other inventions and

                        This is not at all what gives rise to anti-simitism. Not that at all. The reasons are different.
                        GRDerzhavin - "Although in comparison with other peoples they were not crowded, they made and are now making a lot of noise about themselves ...". And this is not the whole reason for the historical dislike of Jews.
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                        inciting the population

                        Well, this is already nonsense, invented by you, or maybe your rabbi, I don’t know.
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                        denial of the Holocaust and for supporting the policy of the Nazis are imprisoned.

                        Not denial, but doubt! Can you catch the difference? And they did not support any "policy of nazism", do not slander people and do not deceive yourself.
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                        As for the stoves, google, there were courts with evidence from representatives of Jewish organizations and historians.

                        Who would doubt what kind of evidence base was given by "representatives of Jewish organizations".
                        My position is that Jews were massacred in the occupied territory of the USSR. Not Germans. But with their connivance. And if this is a Holocaust, then yes, it was. There are some doubts about Europe.
                        But ... On the occupied territory of the USSR, not only Jews were killed. Why, if they talk about it, then much less? Isn't it just right to recall the above quote by G.R. Derzhavin?
                      13. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 10 March 2021 12: 31
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                        1) I say - I read this figure))
                        2) well, someone makes even more noise and brings much less benefit to humanity in terms of science, medicine, etc., but there is no pathological hatred comparable to anti-Semitism laughing
                        3) Oh ... yes, don't la-la. During the life of veterans and prisoners of concentration camps, I would let such figures talk with my grandparents, then I would strangle it myself, and very slowly and savoring every second of the action
                        4) Technical data provided by the FRG archives, among other things))
                        The shootings in Babi Yar and other places - the Germans. Himmler wrote about "the bad consequences for the morale of the soldiers, and the Jews must be cut differently."
                        Europe - you will be in Bavaria (FRG), visit Dachau. Read the memoirs of the Soviet liberators of Auschwitz, read about the trial of American soldiers who shot concentration camp guards in Europe, read how Americans forced the residents of neighboring German cities, who "knew nothing," to bury the corpses of prisoners. There are newsreels showing Americans forcing residents of such cities to inspect concentration camps.
                        And they talk about it much less for one reason - the Cold War. The GDR are victims of Nazism and our friends.
                        The Americans said the same about the FRG.
                        Why the mention of the Jews about the Holocaust is outraged - the sympathy of the Arabs friendly to the USSR (Syrian, Iraqi, Palestinian) with the Nazis and even their participation in the war on the side of Hitler (the SS Hajar division) gave birth to the tale that the Jews in "their atrocities against the Arabs" are justified by the mass their destruction by the Germans.
                        That's bullshit.
                      14. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 10 March 2021 14: 30
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                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        1) I say - I read this figure))

                        And I’m not about him, I’m about "distorted facts" and I also read, and not only him. And the facts all agree. Although described by different people from different countries.
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                        2) well, someone makes even more noise

                        For example?
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                        laughing
                        3) Oh ... don't blah blah. During the life of veterans and concentration camp prisoners, I would let such figures talk with my

                        Well, I also read the memoirs of Russian prisoners of Auschwitz. And they said that Auschwitz was a synthetic gasoline plant, and that Jewish prisoners were the leaders of the work and overseers.
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                        4) Technical data provided by the FRG archives, among other things))

                        Those. data of what, muffle furnace?
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                        The shootings in Babi Yar and other places - the Germans.

                        It has already been proven that they are Bandera.
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                        Himmler wrote about "the bad consequences for the morale of the soldiers, and the Jews must be cut differently."

                        That is why the local "elites" did it.
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                        Read the memoirs of the Soviet liberators of Auschwitz,

                        It is enough for me to know about concentration camps located in the occupied territory of the USSR. Although I also know about Majdanek, Buchenwald and others.
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                        Iraqi, Palestinian) Nazis and even their participation in the war on the side of Hitler (SS Hajar division),

                        Well, the Jews also fought on Hitler's side, fighting the British in the BV. Is not it so?
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                        That's bullshit.

                        Indeed - nonsense. Nowhere and never read about such an "excuse"
                      15. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 10 March 2021 15: 21
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                        1) So read different Russophobes - they also have all the "facts" converge, but this does not mean truthfulness))
                        2) A bunch of different peoples, starting with the Arabs
                        3) Organizations of incineration of corpses in German death camps
                        4) Why did Himmler write about the moral harm of executions for German soldiers? And by whom has it been proven? lol
                        5) But initially the Germans did it
                        6) Well, if you know why write about the absence of the Holocaust in Europe?
                        7) No laughing The only organization that carried out terrorist attacks during the war was Irgun Stern - but they did it without communication and without the help of the Germans or Italians, unlike the Arabs.
                        8)
                        Lehi, led by Abraham Stern and Yitzhak Shamir, considered the main enemy of the British and offered Nazi Germany her assistance in the fight against them. The main part of Irgun, led by David Raziel, preferred to cooperate with the British during the war against Nazism, carrying out operations on behalf of the British. Raziel himself died in one of these operations in Iraq from a bomb dropped from a German plane. He was replaced by Yaakov Meridor, who continued his policy of restraint.
                        With the coming of Menachem Begin to the leadership of the organization in 1943, the situation changed, and on February 1, 1944, despite the ongoing war with Nazism, he proclaimed an "uprising", expanding operations to Great Britain. The Irgunists viewed British troops as "the criminal Nazi British occupation army." Irgun's attacks damaged police stations, the tax office, an English radio station and an oil pipeline. In 1944, the British Secretary of State for the Near East, Walter Guinness, was assassinated by Lehi members. In response, the British authorities launched an operation against both organizations. The Jewish leadership of Ishuv and the Haganah, (pro-Soviet socialists, the majority), cooperating with the British authorities, helped them arrest participants in the Irgun and Lehi (Operation Season)... After a wave of arrests, the "Haganah" (the main military force of the Zionists) decided to suspend such a policy, but did not stop it completely. The arrested members of "Lehi" and "Irgun" were exiled to prisons in Africa and returned to Israel only in July 1948, after the founding of the State of Israel.

                        That's how we participated laughing Unlike the Arabs, who acted either in the Wehrmacht or with the help of the Wehrmacht.
                        9) When did the Jews scream about the Holocaust? We remember this ourselves, for ourselves, but if someone blathers about the presence of nuclear weapons in Israel, we remind you that everyone did not care when we were cut
                      16. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 10 March 2021 16: 06
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                        9) When did the Jews shout about the Holocaust?

                        So they started right after the war. No country screamed as much as the Jews without their country. For what? In order to "cut" the Germans. And they did it. Well done, I think. It was a brilliant idea! So, it's not about the Holocaust, it's about the gesheft at the Holocaust. Alas, we cannot do that.
                      17. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 10 March 2021 17: 39
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                        No
                        After the war, no one spoke about this in Israel; it all began in the early 60s. Germany needed to improve its image in order to sell its goods in the United States. At the beginning of the war, the Americans had a neutral attitude towards the Germans (they hated the Japanese), which was replaced by respect after the landing in Normandy - the Germans are good soldiers, intelligent people, etc. (The largest ethnic group in the United States is also Germans.)
                        Until the Americans stumbled upon concentration camps, then the Germans began to spread rot, and in black.
                        There was nothing to say about the image of Germany among its neighbors in Western Europe - the FRG had to show it had new Germans.
                        In Israel, the situation was awful - for 600 - 700 thousand inhabitants in 1948, more than a million refugees arrived from Europe and Arab countries (800 thousand from the latter). The country was poor, except for agricultural products and primitive weapons, it produced nothing, and the neighbors imposed a trade embargo against Israel.
                        An agreement was reached between the leaderships of the two countries - the Germans compensate for the losses of the Jews of Germany (squeezed business and capital in West Germany), in exchange for diplomatic relations.
                        In Israel, the only Maidan in the history of the country began - no one wanted to know the Germans, but after machine guns were placed on the roof of the parliament before making a decision, the protesters left the stones, got in the face from the police and this did not escalate into the Civil War. The Germans supplied the Jews with coal, industrial and agricultural equipment, and also donated M-48 tanks to bypass the American embargo on the supply of offensive weapons.
                        A similar request for compensation from the GDR was met with a refusal - "it's not us, it's the Nazis."
                        As for us, we cannot - first, whole factories and valuables were taken from the GDR to the USSR. Then, within the framework of the Cold War, they threw in a lot of money - a showcase of socialism. This is when our own people lived in communal apartments until the 90s.
                      18. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 10 March 2021 20: 29
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                        As for us, we cannot - first, whole factories and valuables were taken from the GDR to the USSR.

                        And without lies in any way?
                        1. Not from the GDR. 45-46 The GDR did not exist.
                        2. This at least to some extent compensated for the losses of the USSR as a result of German aggression?
                        What Jewish cities, factories, factories were destroyed by the Germans?
                        None! Jewish houses, yes, suffered, but they all suffered, and the Germans too. The Germans did not destroy Jewish cities due to their absence. What are the claims to them?
                        We did this in the eastern part and the Anglo-Americans in the western part, and they also noted in the eastern part (Dresden). What are the claims to the Germans? That the Jews were killed? So they not only killed Jews, only 28 million citizens of the USSR.
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                        The Germans supplied the Jews with coal, industrial and agricultural equipment, and also donated M-48 tanks to bypass the American embargo on the supply of offensive weapons.

                        As well as the annual tribute in foreign currency. Forgot to specify? Nothing, I remember.
                        Why did the Germans not pay us tribute for the 28 million killed, but they pay you for 3 million? Because you know how to do gesheft.
                      19. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 10 March 2021 22: 03
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                        1) There was no - there was a Soviet occupation zone lol In the future that became the GDR fellow
                        2) I agree - compensated.
                        The Germans took business and money from the Jews. This was compensated for. I understand which side is closer to you between Jews and Germans, but, nevertheless)).
                        They killed Jews and Gypsies on the basis of ethnicity, others for resistance, as punishment, etc. (ideological communists).
                        3) In the same way, Russian citizens who were hijacked during the war to work in Germany are paid in foreign currency. And Polish. And Belarusian. Is this news to you? ))
                        4) recourse And what about the indemnity from the GDR (sorry, from the Soviet zone of occupation)?
                      20. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 11 March 2021 00: 33
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                        2) I agree - compensated.

                        2) But I think not.
                        .
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                        I understand which side is closer to you between

                        You do not understand anything. There is no choice before me. From the word at all. I do not forgive Hitler's Germany, but what does modern Germans have to do with it? The Jews did nothing to me wrong, why should I treat them badly and choose between them and the Germans? What stupidity. It can only be born in the brains of a person with an inferiority complex.
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                        The Germans took business and money from the Jews.

                        Who was compensated for, after all, all the Jews in Germany were killed by the Germans, according to Jewish propaganda?
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                        3) The same is true for Russian citizens who were hijacked during the war on

                        Russian citizens forcibly hijacked to work in Germany were paid for their hard labor. And what were the Jews paid for? They were taken to Germany for forced labor? And did they work?
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                        And the indemnity from the GDR

                        Well, stop lying. The USSR did not take any indemnity from the GDR. On the contrary, he gave food, medicines, etc.
                      21. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 11 March 2021 00: 59
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                        1) So it was necessary to milk the GDR and populate it with Russians, and not play in the showcase of socialism
                        2) laughing ... but you are asking why Germany should pay Jews, someone exaggerates the number of Holocaust victims, modern Germans have nothing to do with it and why they imprison Holocaust researchers in Europe)). Everything is clear here wink
                        3) The prisoners of concentration camps, of course, worked until they died of exhaustion, disease and a meager meal, but they pay for the squeezed out of Bao's ethnicity business and looted property, as well as selected finances... Let me remind you that about a quarter of all business in Germany belonged to Jews.
                        4)
                        For several years, during which the USSR collected reparations, 2885 different factories and plants, 96 power plants, about 340 thousand various machine tools, 200 thousand electric motors, scientific and laboratory equipment, equipment for swimming pools, carriages and steam locomotives were dismantled and sent to the East, civil and military ships, equipment for the Central Telephone Exchange of Moscow (which served until 1980) A total of 1 thousand pieces of equipment.
                        In addition to equipment, a huge amount of various goods of current production and property was exported on account of reparations until 1954 - only in 1945: 73,5 thousand cars of building materials and all property simply confiscated from apartments (including tens of thousands of pianos and pianos), 458 thousand radios, 188 thousand carpets, 941 thousand pieces of furniture, 241 thousand hours (both wall-mounted and table-top), 6370 wagons of paper, 588 wagons of tableware (most porcelain), 3,4 million pairs of shoes, 1,2 , 2,5 million coats, 4,6 million dresses, 154 million pieces of linen, 24 wagons of fabrics and furs, 2 wagons filled with musical instruments, 206 million head of cattle and 2,3 thousand horses; 1 million tons of grain, 1 million tons of potatoes and vegetables, 16 million tons of fats and sugar, 20 tons of tobacco, as well as 186 million liters of alcohol and 447,7 wagons of wine, 174,1 thousand tons of ferrous and non-ferrous metals, 2 tons precious metals, millions of books and hundreds of thousands of art objects, turbines and rocket engines FAU-XNUMX and uranium

                        In 1953, an uprising took place in the GDR, the economy looked pale against the background of an economic miracle in the FRG, and from January 1, 1954, it was necessary to stop collecting reparations. It is impossible to calculate the exact amount that was obtained from all supplies. The Foreign Ministry of the Federal Republic of Germany believes that the USSR exported from the GDR on account of reparations about $ 15,8 billion (this is about 400 modern billion dollars)
                      22. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 11 March 2021 12: 38
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                        1) So it was necessary to milk the GDR and populate it with Russians, and not play in the showcase of socialism

                        We are not Jews. We have a different mentality. Although, by the way, the Naglo-Saxons offered to emasculate all German men. Stalin did not agree.
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                        Everything is clear here

                        Nothing is clear to you. You want it to be so. Because it's easier - an anti-Semite and everything. I emphasize - you so want! But this is not the case. All. I'm not going to convince you. You can continue to scare yourself with the horrors of Russian anti-Simitism.
                        I consider further dialogue to be meaningless.
                      23. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 11 March 2021 13: 21
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                        We are not Jews. We have a different mentality. Although, by the way, the Naglo-Saxons offered to emasculate all German men. Stalin disagreed

                        lol Yes, yes - only after the Jewish occupation of Judea and Samaria, the standard of living of the Arabs in these territories exceeded that of all neighbors)).
                        There is no Russian anti-Semitism as such. There are certain people like you hi
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 8 March 2021 19: 57
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    Bravo Israel! I support you! One state really fights against state terror!

    With the help of state terror.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 7 March 2021 10: 39
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    Interestingly, the Yankees are putting pressure on the Jews to be the first to beat Iran?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 7 March 2021 10: 43
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      Rather, the Jews want to do everything with the hands of the Yankees. And they themselves, no matter how they have to do with it.
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 7 March 2021 15: 20
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        Quote: Pereira
        Rather, the Jews want to do everything with the hands of the Yankees.

        ... Everything is stuck in a lie!
        On June 7, 1981, a group of Israeli F-16A fighters with an F-15A escort struck the Iraqi Osirak reactor, and was not coordinated with America

        After it became clear that the United States does not want to conduct military operation, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert decided to conduct Operation Orchard, an Israeli air raid on a suspected nuclear reactor in Syria's Deir ez-Zor province, conducted just after midnight (local time) on September 6, 2007.
        ALL ONLY BY THE HANDS AND HEADS OF THE AREES!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 38
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          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          Quote: Pereira
          Rather, the Jews want to do everything with the hands of the Yankees.

          ... Everything is stuck in a lie!
          On June 7, 1981, a group of Israeli F-16A fighters with an F-15A escort struck the Iraqi Osirak reactor, and was not coordinated with America

          After it became clear that the United States does not want to conduct military operation, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert decided to conduct Operation Orchard, an Israeli air raid on a suspected nuclear reactor in Syria's Deir ez-Zor province, conducted just after midnight (local time) on September 6, 2007.
          ALL ONLY BY THE HANDS AND HEADS OF THE AREES!

          Osirak - about the help of the Iranians. They raised all aviation along the front line to distract the Iraqi air force. The Jews hit from the rear. And the solo attempt of the Persians to bomb Osirak in January 1981 failed - they did not hit even once, since the Iranians bombed, they did not lose a single aircraft, since the air defense was Iraqi laughing
    2. lucul
      lucul 7 March 2021 13: 16
      -4
      Interestingly, the Yankees are putting pressure on the Jews to be the first to beat Iran?

      Do not laugh - when could the tail crush something? )))
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 7 March 2021 10: 49
    -4
    The Zionist regime, represented by its military, is again bringing its militaristic plans to the BV .... incl. and against the working people of Iran ...
    However, after the explosions of "dirty" bombs in the shopping center of Tel Aviv and the resort areas of Haifa, Israeli Jews will forget about Covid ..... will the burn centers and the Israeli civil defense troops cope with the IRI's response .....
    1. Holuay T.O
      Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 10: 58
      -9
      Strange, how have you still not been imprisoned for xenophobia? ... it is not difficult to send a screen, it is a criminal offense here!
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 7 March 2021 11: 06
        +5
        Remind the number of the criminal article. And what country are you broadcasting from?
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 7 March 2021 13: 20
          -1
          Quote: Pereira
          Remind the number of the criminal article. And what country are you broadcasting from?

          He broadcasts from the hospital ... and let the screen stick to his medical history in the medical record ...
      2. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 7 March 2021 12: 15
        +1
        It's strange how you haven't been jailed for xenophobia yet?
        Here it is time for some Jews to be imprisoned for Russophobia ... while they get away with it when they pour mud on Russians.
      3. hydroy
        hydroy 7 March 2021 12: 37
        0
        Well, you are our Pavlik Morozov, young people, take a reward from Israel for a labor feat with a dick))))))
    2. Avior
      Avior 7 March 2021 11: 07
      +6
      Quite a lot of states can create a "dirty bomb", technically it is not very difficult. And if the first application is left without harsh consequences, it will provoke others. It is better not to start such a practice, in my opinion, the consequences in the world will be very serious.
      Not to mention the fact that in response you can get a full-fledged nuclear strike.
      1. D16
        D16 7 March 2021 11: 37
        +2
        [quote] technically it's not very difficult. And if the first application is left without harsh consequences, it will provoke others [quote]
        Exactly. Only Israel will create it first by bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. So you are absolutely right.
        1. Avior
          Avior 7 March 2021 13: 06
          +3
          Are you a supporter of the legalization of the "dirty bomb" in the world?
          Think about the list of countries that would want to have such weapons in their arsenal if they become legal, and that are technically capable of creating them in a fairly short time.
          Start your list with Ukraine, for example .....
          And then think again whether you need to support their legalization.
          1. strannik1985
            strannik1985 7 March 2021 13: 20
            +1
            Start the list with Ukraine

            What does "become legal" mean? There is no treaty prohibiting anyone from developing nuclear weapons, there is a non-proliferation treaty and voluntary agreement on refusal to develop, store, purchase, etc.
            And looking at Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, the benefits of having SNF obvious.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 7 March 2021 13: 26
              -3
              Quote: strannik1985
              there is a non-proliferation treaty and voluntary agreement on refusal to develop, store, purchase, etc.

              Which Israeli Jews have not ratified, and we are being told about the danger of "dirty" bombs ...
              The current regime in Israel destroys the positions of the Armed Forces and the IRGC of the Islamic Republic of Iran legally located on the territory of the SAR, and then they broadcast about xenophobia and the prohibition of creating "dirty" bombs ...
            2. Avior
              Avior 7 March 2021 15: 45
              +5
              ... there is an agreement on its non-proliferation and a voluntary agreement on the refusal of development

              That is, the contract is still there
              Why look at Afghanistan, it is still incapable of creating nuclear weapons.
              But Ukraine is technically quite capable.
              Therefore, I propose to start the list with Ukraine, and not with Afghanistan.
              1. strannik1985
                strannik1985 7 March 2021 17: 37
                -2
                That is, there is still a contract.

                No treaty prohibiting independent development, the same Ukraine is free to develop nuclear weapons if it wishes.
                1. rudolff
                  rudolff 7 March 2021 17: 49
                  +3
                  "Each of the non-nuclear-weapon States parties to the Treaty undertakes not to accept nuclear weapons and / or other nuclear explosive devices from anyone, or control over them, either directly or indirectly; nor does it produce or acquire in any other way nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices and not accept any assistance in their production. "
                  Ukraine cannot independently develop nuclear weapons. The minimum will fall under the sanctions. Or maybe it will run into the destruction of nuclear facilities.
                2. Avior
                  Avior 7 March 2021 18: 48
                  +3
                  NPT prohibits

                  Article 2
                  Each of the non-nuclear-weapon States parties to this Treaty shall not accept the transfer from anyone of nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices, nor the control of such weapons or explosive devices, either directly or indirectly; not to produce or acquire in any other way nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices, nor to seek or accept any assistance in the production of nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices.

                  That is, the NPT must be withdrawn first.
                  1. D16
                    D16 7 March 2021 21: 51
                    -3
                    That is, the NPT must be withdrawn first.

                    States had the right to withdraw from the JCPOA? Had. And Iran will withdraw from the NPT. The day before the test laughing ... Formally, it does not yet have nuclear weapons, and the IAEA cannot control the current state of affairs due to the actions of the United States. I believe this is correct.
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 7 March 2021 22: 24
                      +3
                      Withdrawal from the NPT is warned 3 months in advance, article 10.
                      But formally, he cannot create nuclear weapons until the moment of exit, and this is not a quick process.
          2. D16
            D16 7 March 2021 13: 22
            0
            God forbid. I am trying to convey to you the idea that Israel will be the first to set a precedent by bombing Iran's nuclear facilities, thereby causing the contamination of territories. Any subsequent use of the dirty bomb will be a secondary response to Israel's actions. He will be responsible for this.
            1. Avior
              Avior 7 March 2021 15: 50
              +3
              Controversial thesis about the contamination of the territory.
              Not all industries lead to this.
              1. D16
                D16 7 March 2021 15: 58
                -2
                Controversial thesis about the contamination of the territory.
                Not all industries lead to this.

                Let's imagine that it has flown into a "scientific" reactor for the production of weapons-grade plutonium. Where will the fissile materials fly? Yes, even in the separation production with uranium hexafluoride. This, of course, is not Chernobyl, but it will not seem a little. And most importantly, what right do they have to do this?
                1. Avior
                  Avior 7 March 2021 18: 54
                  +5
                  Does Iran admit that it has produced weapons-grade plutonium?
                  If he does, they can add more.
                  Iran signed the NPT, unlike Israel
                  1. D16
                    D16 7 March 2021 21: 35
                    -2
                    Does Iran admit that it has produced weapons-grade plutonium?

                    What's the difference? This is the territory of a sovereign state. If someone does not like this, then this is his problem.
                    Iran signed the NPT, unlike Israel

                    I beg of you lol ... The United States made a deal with Iran, and then unilaterally withdrew from it. Why can't Iran withdraw from the DONYAO?
                    Does this somehow change the state of affairs with the possible contamination of the area?
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 7 March 2021 22: 25
                      +1
                      First I must go out, then create weapons
  • Victorio
    Victorio 7 March 2021 10: 57
    -3
    these fanatics stand each other
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 March 2021 11: 13
    +9
    Holuay T.O
    ... it is not difficult to send a screen, it is a criminal offense here!
    There are few provocateurs on the site from this area, so another one showed up 2 weeks ago. Will you send it to your Israel or directly to the ECHR?
    1. Holuay T.O
      Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 11: 32
      -9
      Many, one of them is you, you are intolerant of another point of view ... sadness
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 7 March 2021 12: 17
        +1
        you are intolerant of another point of view ... sadness

        Look at yourself in the mirror.
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 7 March 2021 14: 07
        0
        Quote: Holuay T.O.
        Many, one of them is you, you are intolerant of another point of view ... sadness

        question from the outside:
        cite at least one of your comments in this thread, which can serve as an example of tolerance for others.
  • Graz
    Graz 7 March 2021 11: 31
    +3
    Not a hat for Senka, Israel is too strong. Frenzied Zionism rushing from all the cracks
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 7 March 2021 12: 12
      0

      Graz (Maxim)
      Today, 11: 31
      NEW
      +1
      Not a hat for Senka, Israel takes too much. Frenzied Zionism rushing from all the cracks
      They will snatch it in full, you look and calmгstay for a while. wink
  • Tagan
    Tagan 7 March 2021 11: 31
    0
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    Are you seriously? Or irony? Or are you Antisimit? I'm so Russian, but I'm on the side of Israel ...

    "Do you have a seal on your tail?
    No?
    And you can fake a mustache. "(C)
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 7 March 2021 11: 31
    +1
    I will quote Gantz a little more fully and more precisely:
    “If the world stops Iran earlier, it is very good, but if not, we will have to act on our own. The IDF is continuously updating its plans to attack Iranian nuclear facilities, and Israel is ready to act independently of anyone in this matter. "


    Gantz also said that any future settlement with Iran should address the issue of "Iranian proxies" in Lebanon and Syria, which have hundreds of thousands of missiles aimed at Israel. The Minister of Defense illustrated his words by opening part of the secret map.
    "This is a map of our goals, each of which has been studied both from a legal and from an operational-tactical point of view."

    Launchers in the area of ​​the Israeli-Lebanese border are located in residential areas. As you know, Hezbollah cynically uses civilians as human shields.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 7 March 2021 12: 11
      -3

      A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
      Today, 11: 31
      NEW
      ... The Minister of Defense illustrated his words by opening a part of the secret map.
      Purely Merikatosian method - almost "it's secret". wassat We passed. We remember.
    2. bk0010
      bk0010 7 March 2021 13: 16
      +1
      Quote: A. Privalov
      which have hundreds of thousands of missiles aimed at Israel.
      And what are not billions? Damn, we don't even have one thousand missiles, but the "proxy" has hundreds of thousands, it's a shame ...
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 7 March 2021 16: 23
        -3
        Quote: bk0010
        Quote: A. Privalov
        that have hundreds of thousands of missilestargeting Israel.
        And what are not billions? Damn, we don't even have one thousand missiles, but the "proxy" has hundreds of thousands, it's a shame ...

        Halts loves to deceive gullible and kind members of the forum here, it's time to get used to it ...
    3. ccsr
      ccsr 7 March 2021 15: 50
      -1
      Quote: A. Privalov
      This is a map of our goals, each of which was studied and legally,

      Privalov did not expect from you that you would refer to such nonsense - no military professional would ever believe that if only a military conflict occurs, the Israelis will think about the legal side to justify targets for defeat. Who do you keep us for with your quivering minister?
      "Nama bad", to believe in this nonsense of yours, no matter how nightingale this minister does.
    4. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 7 March 2021 16: 21
      -3
      [quote = A. Privalov] I will quote Gantz a little more fully and more accurately:
      [quote] “If the world stops Iran earlier, it’s very good, but if not, we will have to act on our own. The IDF is continuously updating its plans to attack Iranian nuclear facilities, and Israel is ready to act independently of anyone in this matter. ”[/ Quote]
      Gantz is a future pensioner and what he says today, he will forget tomorrow ...
    5. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 7 March 2021 17: 30
      +9
      For those who did not know and for those who have a bad memory.

      Twice in the past 40 years, Israel has harshly stopped the development of nuclear programs.

      On June 7, 1981, a group of Israeli F-16A fighters escorted by an F-15A attacked the Iraqi Osirak reactor. So the Iraqi nuclear program was closed.

      On September 6, 2007, an Israeli air force raid on a nuclear reactor under construction in the province of Deir ez-Zor closed the nuclear program in Syria.




      If necessary, he will stop the third. hi
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 8 March 2021 07: 59
        -1

        A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
        Yesterday, 17: 30
        ... If necessary, he will stop in the third. hi
        Very similar to the speeches of a former party functionary. laughing Just remember: the meeting of the party, and the ANSWER - and answer for any when you have to - are different things. wassat
  • Tagan
    Tagan 7 March 2021 11: 55
    +4
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    Strange, how have you still not been imprisoned for xenophobia? ... it is not difficult to send a screen, it is a criminal offense here!

    Knock-Knock...
    Will you act as a plaintiff?
  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 11: 58
    -6
    I am sure the IDF will have enough strength and means to demolish all nuclear ambitions, Israel's missiles are accurate
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 7 March 2021 12: 40
      +3
      Some kind of antipersism, xenophobia, for such a crime can be obtained, the guarantor of the constitution will confirm)
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 March 2021 12: 09
    0
    In addition, Beni Gantz, in a conversation with a Fox News correspondent, showed a map of Lebanon, which indicates the places where the anti-aircraft missile systems of the pro-Iranian movement Hezbollah are located and the ground forces created at the initiative of Tehran are located.
    I remember that someone even shook a test tube in front of the public ... laughing the same faith)) tongue and this beni ganSu! angry
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 March 2021 12: 09
    -1
    laughing Isn't it ssykotno for Israel to start first? Get over the rake laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 March 2021 12: 12
    0
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    I am sure the IDF will have enough strength and means to demolish all nuclear ambitions, Israel's missiles are accurate

    Yeah, come on "hero" get a screwdriver. In history, you have already rocketed against the Roman Empire once, ended up with the Colosseum appearing in Rome laughing
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 March 2021 16: 42
      +2
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      I am sure the IDF will have enough strength and means to demolish all nuclear ambitions, Israel's missiles are accurate

      Yeah, come on "hero" get a screwdriver. In history, you have already rocketed against the Roman Empire once, ended up with the Colosseum appearing in Rome laughing

      Then the technological advantage was on the side of the Romans, but now the situation is the opposite. lol
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 7 March 2021 12: 19
    -2
    In order to keep their citizens on a short leash, one has to invent an image of the enemy. Russian tourists who have attended the weekly military performances of the IRGC say that Iranians in orange robes appear as enemies, that is, they are not Israelis at all.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 7 March 2021 12: 21
    +1
    The confrontation is concrete, tough, and what it will lead to is not known.
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 7 March 2021 12: 42
      -2
      Besides, Israel will beg the United States to help her)))))))))))))))))))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 March 2021 12: 45
        0
        Always helped in the end. There are no special disagreements here.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 March 2021 12: 51
    +1
    They can retaliate with a BR with a conventional warhead. Accuracy, it seems not bad
  • don-1500
    don-1500 7 March 2021 13: 01
    -1
    Quote: Cowbra
    who didn't notice
    "America has experienced a global post-industrial trans-corporate revolution. Global multinational corporations have taken over the institution of the state."

    Of course, the results of this revolution will be distributed by TNCs to the whole world, and whoever is against is the enemy.
  • andreykolesov123
    andreykolesov123 7 March 2021 13: 41
    +3
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    It is strange that fellow Jews are tolerant of xenophobia on your part, if you are a citizen of Russia, you should not do this, we have it so strictly with this ... and they can really be imprisoned, the guarantor of the constitution keeps it under control!

    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Quadro
    As always, we can illegally have nuclear weapons, but Iran cannot. We are exceptional and chosen by God.

    The representative of a country with 1500 YaB said.

    And no one forbade you to create nuclear weapons. Then why do you forbid Iran to have it? With what fright did the BBC decide that Iran is creating nuclear weapons directly to destroy Israel?

    Because this is what Iranian leaders say. And yes, Israel has never stated that it will destroy Iran.
    1. strannik1985
      strannik1985 7 March 2021 14: 07
      -1
      Because this is what Iranian leaders say.

      Yes, Israel is "just" bombing Iranian proxies in Syria. Reminds of the situation with the DPRK - we will introduce sanctions because they are bad wink
    2. Quadro
      Quadro 7 March 2021 15: 39
      -4
      That's just Iran declares, and the Jews are sabotaging and killing Iranian scientists.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 7 March 2021 14: 42
    0
    So far, only Israel is destroying everyone around.
  • Old26
    Old26 7 March 2021 16: 06
    +7
    Quote: Cowbra
    Eitai has no oil at all. But Iran is important to him as a logistics hub. Trade with Europe is greatly simplified and cheaper. And they dabbled in technology - the Jews never dreamed of

    "How many wonderful discoveries the spirit of enlightenment is preparing for us ..."
    From your posts you will learn that, as they say, "at least stand - at least fall."
    And nothing that the proven reserves of oil and gas condensate in China, as of the beginning of 2019, amounted to 3,54 billion tons. That production is approximately 190 million tons per year (the PRC is at the same time taking 5-6 place in the world). All this is nonsense. If you said China has no oil at all, we just OBLIGED TO LISTEN TO SUCH REVELATIONS

    Quote: Cowbra
    China has 500 reasons to fit in for Iran (this is in dollars). For such grandmothers to Israel, China will unscrew the head - and say. that's how it goes

    China will fit in for Iran ?? Oh well.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 March 2021 17: 09
    -2
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    I am sure the IDF will have enough strength and means to demolish all nuclear ambitions, Israel's missiles are accurate

    Yeah, come on "hero" get a screwdriver. In history, you have already rocketed against the Roman Empire once, ended up with the Colosseum appearing in Rome laughing

    Then the technological advantage was on the side of the Romans, but now the situation is the opposite. lol

    Well, yes, the Romans had onagers, now Israel has "Merkava" laughing Are there enough resources? One tank laughing
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 7 March 2021 19: 12
    +4
    I just read the news - everything seems to be logical, I read the comments of our esteemed analysts and burst into tears! Wiping his tears with an old beard: poor Jews, and there "men, go and don't know" about their imminent death. Can warn them all the same?
  • Raven 95
    Raven 95 7 March 2021 20: 38
    +5
    Israel will act on its own and defend itself

    Do you yourself believe that?
    1. surfdude
      surfdude 8 March 2021 12: 52
      0
      Yes. Do you have any doubts?
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 8 March 2021 00: 26
    -2
    Quote: Kaman
    arms - Israel will not sit idly by. Better stay alive and get

    Not certainly in that way. In Israel, they start screaming for any reason, especially when people in the world have a true picture of what this is state Israeli Zionism. There was a UN Security Council resolution that equated Israeli Zionism with the most vile extremist currents.
    But immediately after the collapse of the USSR, the Zionists abolished it by crook.
    They really do not want the world to know the truth about Zionism. Iran has no other choice but to saturate its armed forces with the same amount of nuclear weapons as Israel has.
    Unfortunately, Israel only understands the language of force, Iran needs to speak with Israel in an understandable language.
    1. Until Ger
      Until Ger 8 March 2021 01: 54
      -4
      There is nothing to add.
      Kim's comrades are ready
      help Iran in its difficult
      the fight against world Zionism.
    2. borberd
      borberd 8 March 2021 23: 21
      -1
      Comrade Kim indignation. It's funny. Just as the Arabs first pushed through this resolution, so the Israelis canceled it. Israel does not even border on Iran, which does not prevent the Iranians from climbing the Israeli borders and inciting Hezbollah. But when they get punched in the face in Syria, they are very offended - why they say their "peace-loving" bandit formations are bombing. And they just wanted, in addition to Lebanon, already lying with spread legs under the Shiites, to put Syria under the Shiites, to build bases and strong points for themselves on the Israeli borders and start a war, as they did with the hands of Hezbollah in Lebanon in 2006.
      Unfortunately, Iran only understands the language of brute force, so Israel will speak this language with the Iranians.
      1. Comrade Kim
        Comrade Kim 17 March 2021 16: 04
        -1
        Comrade bombert, thank you for your biased analysis of the situation. But Israeli foreign policy is much more complicated and bad.
        Why would the Israelis demanded to undermine Assad's power? Under him, Israel lived much more calmly and predictably.
        They wanted to weaken the "regime" - they got the IRGC at their borders, and gangs of bearded men with such an anti-Jewish leaven that, compared to them, Himmler is the good uncle of all world Jewry.
        And not everything is going smoothly with us.
        We sympathize and support (very modestly) the Serbs, and we honor (officially!) The executioner of the friendly Slavic people:

        "On the grave of the war criminal Tudjman, guilty of the genocide of the Serbs. Andrei Nesterenko lays down. He is the ambassador to Croatia, sidekick of Minister Sergei Lavrov."

        https://t.me/infobomb/525
        1. borberd
          borberd 17 March 2021 23: 13
          0
          You know surprisingly little about Israeli politics in Syria, and about those who undermined the Assad regime. This was done by the Gulf Arabs, Americans, French and even Assad himself. Otherwise, how can you explain the phenomenally stupid actions of this ophthalmologist? Israel was happy with Assad while he was chasing ISIS and vice versa. Since the alternative was even worse. Even now, he is satisfied with it - weak, urged on by the Russians, Lebanese and Iranians. If I didn't, I would choke on a pretzel. We don't give a damn about the anti-Jewish leaven of Iranian barmaley. Let's put all, we will remain alone
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