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The first restored Su-25 attack aircraft took off in Georgia

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The first restored Su-25 attack aircraft took off in Georgia

The first Su-25 attack aircraft restored by its own forces took off in Georgia. "Vzglyad" reports this with reference to the Georgian Defense Ministry.


As reported on the official website of the Georgian military department, the first flight of the restored Su-25 took place on Saturday, March 6, 2021. The restoration and modernization of the aircraft was carried out by the Tbilaviastroitel and Delta enterprises. In the future, a phased restoration of the assault is planned. aviation Georgian Air Force.

The first Su-25 aircraft rebuilt and modernized by its own forces will be used for both combat and training purposes.

- said in a statement.


It is noted that the program for restoring the production of the Su-25 at the Tbilisi aircraft plant was announced in 2020 by Irakli Garibashvili, who served as Georgian Defense Minister, who said that Georgia could produce attack aircraft both for its own air force and for export.

In February this year, the current head of the Georgian military department, Juansher Burchuladze, announced the restoration of the aircraft factory closed after the collapse of the USSR and promised that the first restored Su-25 would take off by mid-March, then new planes would take off "every month."

Note that we are not talking about the full production of aircraft, but about the restoration of the attack aircraft produced in the days of the USSR with the implementation of their overhaul. At the same time, it is not known where Georgia gets the components for the aircraft, since deliveries from Russia are completely excluded.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 6 March 2021 14: 26
    +36
    Once I heard a joke from "flyers" laughing Any eccentric can take off, and only the Pilot and the Prosecutor can land. bully
    Let's see what happened with the Georgians.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 6 March 2021 14: 50
      +9
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Once I heard a joke from "flyers" laughing Any eccentric can take off, and only the Pilot and the Prosecutor can land. bully
      Let's see what happened with the Georgians.

      So it seems like the video shows that the landing was done normally ...
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 6 March 2021 15: 07
        +23
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Once I heard a joke from "flyers" laughing Any eccentric can take off, and only the Pilot and the Prosecutor can land. bully
        Let's see what happened with the Georgians.

        So it seems like the video shows that the landing was done normally ...

        It’s somehow difficult for you with Humor ... For surrender It was a Metaphor! laughing
        But seriously, to "fix" one side, it is not known from which spare parts (what is the volume of work), it is not known by what forces ... somehow this does not even work for the News ... what did they "restore" ??? The wheels have been changed - this is definitely a Master, I myself use a tire changer belonging to an ethnic Georgian.
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 6 March 2021 18: 41
          +9
          Quote: Hunter 2
          "Fix" one side, it is not known from which spare parts (what is the amount of work), it is not known by what forces ...

          They repaired the Su-25UB, which, unlike the Su-25, were produced not in Georgia, but in Ulan-Ude. And the pilot, for some reason, did not want to show his face (he covered his face with dark glass). If there is something to be proud of, then why hide your face?
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha 6 March 2021 20: 45
            +5
            Irakli Garibashvili, who said that Georgia can produce attack aircraft both for its own air force and for export.

            No, well, restore, although there are a lot of questions here, that's understandable. But, eperny theater, where are they going to build new ones from?
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 7 March 2021 16: 07
              0
              Quote: Mitroha
              But, eperny theater, where are they going to build new ones from?

              Here's another question. Everyone who has come across the Tbilisi aircraft plant on duty know very well that even in Soviet times, the quality was terrifying. New aircraft that arrived in the units were immediately repaired and refined by the forces of regimental technicians. I completely agree with you, where and on what they were going to build new ones, thirty years later, this is a big secret, understandable only to Svidomo Georgians and the rest of the newly-minted "young democracies". laughing
          2. jovanni
            jovanni April 8 2021 20: 23
            0
            Quote: Bad_gr
            They repaired the Su-25UB, which, unlike the Su-25, were produced not in Georgia, but in Ulan-Ude. And the pilot, for some reason, did not want to show his face (he covered his face with dark glass). If there is something to be proud of, then why hide your face?

            Duc in Ulan-Ude probably vidos and filmed ...)))
        2. figwam
          figwam 6 March 2021 18: 48
          +6
          Engines where they will take, the resource reaches and that's it.
          1. dauria
            dauria 6 March 2021 21: 56
            +4
            Engines where they will take, the resource reaches and that's it.


            Can't you buy it? In the world of buying and selling .... laughing Even Stalin bought airplanes and motors through dummy companies. Or is the Ufa plant extra money?
        3. demo
          demo 6 March 2021 19: 26
          +12
          But seriously, to "fix" one side, it is not known from which spare parts
          Kill me, but I don’t believe that the figures from Ukraine (at best), and at worst, our (Russian) corrupt oligarchs didn’t put their hands on it.
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 7 March 2021 16: 08
            +1
            Quote: demo
            "Fix" one side, it is not known from which spare parts

            It seems to me that this was the first and last board. So to speak for advertising purposes.
            1. demo
              demo 7 March 2021 16: 35
              0
              Your words, to God’s ears.
      2. slipped
        slipped 6 March 2021 15: 07
        +13
        Quote: Lara Croft
        So it seems like the video shows that the landing
        perfect ...


        "... and I also eat there." laughing The hunter said something else above. Rumble once again to Ossetia or Abkhazia - we'll put them in both senses.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 6 March 2021 15: 19
          0
          Quote: slipped
          Rumble once again to Ossetia or Abkhazia - we'll put them in both senses.

          There was an article on VO that the Georgians wanted to drink their Su-25s on drink ...
          The Georgian military department will not be armed with Su-25 attack aircraft, spare parts for which are in Russia; in the future, the emphasis will be on drones, Vzglyad leads the statement of the Chief of the General Staff of the Georgian Armed Forces Vladimir Chachibay.

          https://topwar.ru/110070-gruziya-obyasnila-otkaz-ot-sovetskih-su-25.html
          1. slipped
            slipped 6 March 2021 16: 07
            +2
            Quote: Lara Croft
            in the future, the emphasis will be on drones, Vzglyad leads the statement of the Chief of the General Staff of the Georgian Armed Forces Vladimir Chachibay.


            This does not override the above.
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 6 March 2021 20: 03
              -2
              and in the context of the article and the commentary, what will they restore to sell to someone, what meaning does your comment carry? that we will tear them if what? and someone doubted?
              1. slipped
                slipped 6 March 2021 21: 07
                +1
                Quote: 2 level advisor
                and in the context of the article and the commentary, what will they restore to sell to someone, what meaning does your comment carry?


                It doesn't matter if they have the Su-25 or they will have drones.
                1. fuffi
                  fuffi April 8 2021 12: 40
                  0
                  The aircraft release was announced in March. Did they manage to restore the plant and buy spare parts and train the personnel in a month? Fantastic guys))))))
            2. KCA
              KCA 7 March 2021 06: 41
              0
              Is there evidence that the shown plane was killed in the trash before it was restored and did not fly? You can just paint the plane with fresh paint and say - here, we have restored and modernized it, or you can not paint it, wipe it with rags with machine oil for a picture, so that it shines and looks like candy
          2. Runway
            Runway 7 March 2021 02: 59
            -1
            They will bring the “birds” in order (there are fewer of them in the squadron), “wave without looking” at the banknotes, recruit personnel and, interacting with Turkey and Ukraine, they will completely form the industrial site for the UAV screwdriver assembly.
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 7 March 2021 06: 37
          0
          revenge is a cold dish. except for Ossetia and Abkhazia they will lose Adjara and the Armenians will be happy with their piece. and the Russian Federation stood on the side - this is all their Transcaucasian showdown.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 March 2021 15: 57
      +1
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Let's see what happened with the Georgians.

      Really took off!
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 6 March 2021 16: 00
        +4
        Quote: tihonmarine

        Really took off!

        Shocked himself what But how served! Restored ... laughing
    3. Fitter65
      Fitter65 6 March 2021 17: 53
      +3
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Once I heard a joke from "flyers" laughing Any eccentric can take off, and only the Pilot and the Prosecutor can land. bully
      Let's see what happened with the Georgians.

      That is, you are implying that he still flies with them? fellow laughing laughing laughing
    4. Terenin
      Terenin 6 March 2021 18: 32
      +8
      While it all looks like a home auto repair shop.
    5. max702
      max702 6 March 2021 23: 20
      +2
      Rodents have always sat in the auto business, interrupting numbers and driving stolen wheelbarrows into gnawing .. It seems to me the same scheme here .. Probably Mishiko contributed from the old place of work in the khadzhibeyevka ..
    6. Artunis
      Artunis 7 March 2021 12: 26
      0
      I immediately remember the Soviet-era Georgian truck "Kolkhida" !!! All the drivers shied away from him like hell with incense! It was considered almost a punishment to drive this Georgian monster, I'm afraid the situation is the same here! For the most part, Georgians are good guys (people), but it's better not for them to get involved with technology, it's not theirs, it's not worth it!
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 6 March 2021 14: 28
    +5
    it is not known where Georgia gets the components
    And who is repairing, by nationality?
    1. 1331M
      1331M 6 March 2021 14: 36
      +30
      If those who assembled the Colchis, then I don’t envy the pilots.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 6 March 2021 15: 08
        +12
        Yeah .. Well, it's not theirs ... Look, to protect underground establishments, to trade in the market .. And of course, sing in chorus.
      2. Fitter65
        Fitter65 6 March 2021 17: 56
        +4
        Quote: 1331M
        If those who assembled the Colchis, then I don’t envy the pilots.

        Ksatete who collected "Colchis" said so - This machine was created to carry grapes from the mountains. And not in order to carry logs uphill on it ...
      3. CommanderDIVA
        CommanderDIVA 6 March 2021 18: 04
        +3
        Yeah, it used to be called "eggs over the precipice")
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 6 March 2021 14: 36
      +10
      It seems that it could not have done without Israel, especially since they modernized their Su 25, like they installed their avionics.
      1. Vaўkalak
        Vaўkalak 6 March 2021 14: 51
        +8
        There was such a thing, the joint modernization of Georgia and Israel, called the Su-25KM "Scorpion". But in this attack aircraft from the video, in the cockpit, apparently everything remained the same. For comparison, the first photo is just a Su-25KM "Scorpion" and the second is a screen from the news. Well, and also an advertising video, shaggy years. Specifically, those in this news, apparently just repairs, although it was reported that there will be modernization. Xs that they "modernized" there. And at the expense of details, it is possible, although if you take into account the Su-25 in Georgia, maybe they do something themselves.

        1. 210ox
          210ox 6 March 2021 15: 11
          +6
          I doubt it. I think brothers and other supplies. There, besides avionics, there is a lot more. Yes, in the days of the USSR, they did everything in cooperation, they collected it in Tbilisi.
    3. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 6 March 2021 14: 37
      +13
      They promised to restore production of the Su-25 in Georgia, and they simply restored flight readiness or simply raised the Soviet Su-25 into the air. PR.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 6 March 2021 14: 47
        +4
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        They promised to restore production of the Su-25 in Georgia, and they simply restored flight readiness or simply raised the Soviet Su-25 into the air. PR.

        Su-25s were always assembled there, there was never a full production cycle, tk. the entire production chain went to the RSFSR ...
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 6 March 2021 14: 49
          +2
          And yet the word is not a sparrow. You can't catch it.
          ... “Today we have absolutely all the resources, technical, intellectual or human, to repair, rebuild the Su-25, produce, manufacture new ones and sell on our own, on our own,” the minister said on Monday.

          According to him, many countries show high interest in aircraft of this type for defense purposes.

          "I think, besides that our country can use this (production of Su-25 aircraft) for defense purposes, it can also become a purely commercial project," Garibashvili said.

          https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/5013729.html
          I think so Ukraine has deprived of merging its Su-25 through Georgia under the guise of "new" Su-25 "Georgian" production.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 6 March 2021 14: 56
            +1
            OrangeBigg (Alexander)"Today we have absolutely all the resources, technical, intellectual or human, to repair, rebuild the Su-25, produce, manufacture new ones and sell on our own, on our own," the minister said on Monday.

            Nice saying for a wall newspaper ....
            During the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, ours bombed this plant ...
            I think the Aviation Plant will not burn out and the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan and the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan have a lot of Su-25s, God himself ordered the Georgians to repair them, and they will drink their Su-25s (somewhere on the ShAP) or one or the other, the maintenance is not affordable ... but they are more needed ...
            1. Orange bigg
              Orange bigg 6 March 2021 15: 00
              +2
              They claim that they themselves produced the Su-25.
              .In 2010, representatives of TAM Management LLC, under pressure exerted on them by various authorities, "presented" the Tbilisi aircraft plant to the state.

              Deputy Director of TAM Management LLC Kakhaber Zhgenti said that no sane businessman would have a desire to transfer such production to the state free of charge:

              “2010 was the peak of production. It took years for us to establish ourselves in the market. Basically, we produced (attack aircraft) Su-25, were engaged in overhaul and modernization of aircraft. At the time of the assignment, we had signed contracts worth $ 200 million. But production stopped in 2010. ”

              https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/5013729.html
        2. Nod
          Nod 6 March 2021 22: 43
          -4
          Here are greyhounds la-laikas ... Name any plant in the world that has achieved greater autonomy than this one ... In my time, we even began to produce rockets - P66, we did not have time only to build a plant for the production of aircraft engines ...
    4. alexmach
      alexmach 6 March 2021 16: 19
      +2
      And who is repairing, by nationality?

      Are there any options? Cartels or Mergwels?
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 6 March 2021 14: 33
    +4
    I blinded you from what was ... and this is also Soviet technology, which can withstand how much bullying it is and not crash right away!
    1. marchcat
      marchcat 6 March 2021 14: 38
      +8
      The dryer was either simply washed of camouflage, or it was stupidly painted with silver, that's all the restoration. And how is it possible to restore something without spare parts, they did not make them with files.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 March 2021 14: 47
        +3
        The old method, cannibalism ... something is dismantled completely, and something, like, is being repaired.
        Well, paint, more fresh paint ...
      2. Nod
        Nod 6 March 2021 22: 44
        -5
        Wipe your eyes - an airplane without camouflage with sheets of different levels of anodizing ... The first flight, and then they will paint ...
    2. cniza
      cniza 6 March 2021 15: 36
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      I blinded you from what was ... and this is also Soviet technology, which can withstand how much bullying it is and not crash right away!


      They have one way, at best, from three to collect two ...
      1. Filxnumx
        Filxnumx 6 March 2021 16: 11
        +4
        collect two of three ...

        It's almost a production! wassat Out of 3-4, one: it will be more realistic.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 6 March 2021 16: 33
        +1
        But engines, engines cannot be made like that ... for one, two flights !!! that's all.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 March 2021 16: 35
          +5
          With engines, yes, it will not work out and they will not be able to replace it with another ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 March 2021 16: 38
            +4
            The Yankees won, at B 52, started to change! So the whole business was lit, but there are no business people to this day, and this is with their then capabilities, babosiks!
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 March 2021 16: 54
              +8
              It’s not so much a matter of money, but where is the production, where are the specialists, where are the materials and the scientific base ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 6 March 2021 16: 56
                +5
                Yes, it is more agile than a "penguin" to saw and to sell suckers ...
                1. cniza
                  cniza 6 March 2021 17: 00
                  +7
                  There are not many aircraft-building countries in the world, and there is definitely no Georgia ...
                  1. Nod
                    Nod 6 March 2021 22: 48
                    -10%
                    This imperial aviation ends up unattended, but it doesn't matter to me that, according to my recommendations, the US is gradually changing the notorious STEALTH technology to absolutely invisible, or, for example, NASA first tested a couple of my noise suppression methods, and now build a silent supersonic aircraft .. ...
                    1. Albert1988
                      Albert1988 6 March 2021 23: 13
                      +6
                      Quote: Nod
                      what about my recommendations in the USA

                      In your opinion, in your opinion, "the haberdasher and the cardinal will save France"!
                      Quote: Nod
                      change the notorious STEALTH technology to absolutely invisible

                      Yes, absolutely - they made her and they can't find her - she's absolutely invisible laughing
                    2. BABAY22
                      BABAY22 6 March 2021 23: 30
                      +13
                      NASA first tested a couple of my methods

                      What is this Veselchak-U?
                      Didn't he tell someone to create heaven and earth first?
                      1. Pete mitchell
                        Pete mitchell 7 March 2021 00: 33
                        +4
                        Quote: BABAY22
                        Did he tell someone to create heaven and earth first?

                        You are all angry hi gathered here, weighed down with the knowledge gained in Soviet universities / VVUZ, nothing "progressive" will break you lol but such a gentleman came here nodding and enlightened us about the appearance
                        Quote: Nod
                        according to my recommendations in the USA they are gradually changing the notorious STEALTH technology to absolutely invisible, or, for example, NASA first tested a couple of my noise suppression methods, and now build a silent supersonic aircraft ...
                        you are all angry laughing maybe he
                        Quote: BABAY22
                        Veselchak-U?

                      2. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 7 March 2021 00: 36
                        +3
                        Quote: BABAY22
                        NASA first tested a couple of my methods

                        What is this Veselchak-U?

                        On weekends and holidays, many of the hospitals were released, tomorrow there will be even more ...
  4. Dart2027
    Dart2027 6 March 2021 14: 41
    +1
    At the same time, it is not known where Georgia gets the components for the aircraft, since deliveries from Russia are completely excluded.
    Well, this is just understandable - from Ukraine.
  5. garik77
    garik77 6 March 2021 14: 43
    +15
    Quote: tralflot1832
    It seems that it could not have done without Israel, especially since they modernized their Su 25, like they installed their avionics.

    According to rumors, they later abandoned this idea because of the hands of the Georgians.
    Even if Israel supplies avionics, where can we get the engines?
    Flyers probably borrowed from xoxles for such a case!
  6. MrFYGY
    MrFYGY 6 March 2021 14: 45
    +8
    The plane was only refueled, but our Soviet stars were stripped off.
  7. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 6 March 2021 14: 45
    +3
    In the future, a phased restoration of the assault aviation of the Georgian Air Force is planned.

    Author. There is no Air Force in the Armed Forces of Georgia (as well as the Navy).
    The entire aviation component (Ground Forces Aviation) is part of the Georgian Army ....
  8. Cowbra
    Cowbra 6 March 2021 14: 48
    +3
    After 30 years, they CLOSED in aviation to the level that was under the USSR. It remains only to establish a line production. And so yes, peremoga. They almost repeated their level of 30 years ago. Well, okay, not yours. And they did not repeat it ... But in profile and in the dark - it looks a bit like the separation from the USSR justified itself)))
    PiSi: The funniest thing about this is that it is in the framework of the announced search for a CHEAP battlefield attack aircraft that they are now looking for in the United States - this would be the best way out. But the bottom is the same as saying - we, mattresses, have not been able to release a normal battlefield machine, without fucking prices for a flight hour and at least somehow reliable
    1. Nod
      Nod 6 March 2021 22: 50
      -6
      Fool - now are the times of cooperation and according to my projects, for example, in the USA I am changing my STEALTH technology to a more advanced one, or NASA has tested a couple of my noise suppression methods, and now they are already building a silent supersonic aircraft ...
  9. Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 March 2021 15: 00
    +1
    Such a good plane in Soviet times, it was necessary to take out the equipment even during the collapse of the USSR, now these planes can appear anywhere in the world where there is an armed conflict, or even the ISIS will be able to repair the Su25 Georgians, if only the money is paid.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 March 2021 15: 26
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      it was necessary to take out the equipment even during the collapse of the USSR

      What kind of equipment? Keys and screwdrivers? Georgians were engaged in assembling
    2. Azimuth
      Azimuth 6 March 2021 16: 45
      0
      What is valuable in it? ... The Su-25 is not even yesterday.
    3. Nod
      Nod 6 March 2021 22: 58
      -5
      How did he become "good"? When they started making the first cars, I was horrified by the design and slowly began to change the design ... So the clever guys from the Sukhoi design bureau came and wanted to put me in jail ... Then the KGB saved me. And the question is - why does an attack aircraft need speed and height? We converted a machine into a maneuverable and absolutely controllable in all modes, which is no longer there today ... Then the KGB dragged me with proposals to build other aircraft according to my projects, but I hardly dodged and do not regret - now the empire could fly in normal machines ... And so he threw off a couple of US projectors and soon there is about STEL and will switch to absolutely invisible aircraft, and NASA, for example, is building a silent supersonic aircraft, which they themselves could not do for decades ...
  10. Prisoner
    Prisoner 6 March 2021 15: 02
    -1
    laughing For genatsvale, this is already an achievement. He took off, flying before. laughing Otherwise, you will drive the self-propelled car to their service, drag it back in tow. laughing
  11. mag nit
    mag nit 6 March 2021 15: 13
    +1
    What successful manager has fitted rodents with accessories?
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 March 2021 15: 29
      0
      Quote: mag nit
      What successful manager has fitted rodents with accessories?

      If they were once engaged in assembling "dryers", then the stock of components could still remain. Plus the dismantling of old aircraft.
  12. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 6 March 2021 15: 16
    +2
    Repair and modernization without spare parts?))) Did the Georgians learn from the Banderast?))))
  13. cniza
    cniza 6 March 2021 15: 35
    +7
    At the same time, it is not known where Georgia gets the components for the aircraft, since deliveries from Russia are completely excluded.


    Now that's an interesting question ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 6 March 2021 18: 16
      +6
      Quote: cniza
      At the same time, it is not known where Georgia gets the components for the aircraft, since deliveries from Russia are completely excluded.


      Now that's an interesting question ...

      The deliveries from Russia ended, but there are many Georgians in Russia ... winked
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 March 2021 18: 47
        +6
        But this is not a raw material for barbecue, so it will break off ...
  14. svp67
    svp67 6 March 2021 16: 17
    +3
    where Georgia takes components for aircraft, since deliveries from Russia are completely excluded.
    It sounds ridiculous if Ukraine makes such an "exchange" with Russia through various "gasket firms", then what prevents Georgia from doing exactly the same. And "technical cannibalism" somehow should not be ruled out. And, of course, Israel's help in providing many elements of avionics and avionics, they already have a "hand full" in this regard
  15. svoit
    svoit 6 March 2021 16: 23
    +4
    It is not clear why deliveries from Russia are excluded, because we supply to Ukraine through third parties?
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 6 March 2021 16: 26
    -4
    The Russian Federation also cannot produce the Su25 without them.
    1. Azimuth
      Azimuth 6 March 2021 16: 36
      +3
      Who whispered nonsense to you?
      We have a production site in Ulan-Ude, where the production of a combat training version of the Su-25 was carried out, plus more than one aircraft repair plant performing work on the Su-25 and having a complete set of documentation for this attack aircraft.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 6 March 2021 16: 41
        -2
        Even there, in UlanUda, in Soviet times, backlog was delivered from Tbilisi. For sparks. And there they made welding.
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 6 March 2021 19: 55
          +2
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Even there, in UlanUda, in Soviet times, backlog was delivered from Tbilisi. For sparks. And there they made welding.

          The first 2 Su-25UB were made on the basis of the Su-25 - for testing (1985). Since 1986, a full cycle of aircraft production was organized in Ulan-Ude, which, in addition to the Su-25UB, also produced the deck-based training Su-25UTG, as well as the export version of the Su-25UBK (T8-UBK). Su-25TM (Su-39) - the same was created on the basis of a twin (Ulan-Ude).
  17. Azimuth
    Azimuth 6 March 2021 16: 43
    +2
    At the same time, it is not known where Georgia gets the components for the aircraft, since deliveries from Russia are completely excluded.
    It is not excluded and there are workarounds. For example, Azerbaijan bought from the Georgians, in fact, gliders without a number of systems, and the engines and a number of systems were bought from us, and the Jews. All this LEGO was assembled at the local aircraft repair plant in the Su-25KM by local and business travelers from Tbilisi.
    Toward the end of the day, the Georgians sold all the documentation to the Azerbaijanis. So now they can not only repair the Su-25, but also, if they wish, even deploy their production at home.
    Another question is that no one needs the Su-25 now.
  18. Professor
    Professor 6 March 2021 16: 57
    -2
    At the same time, it is not known where Georgia gets the components for the aircraft, since deliveries from Russia are completely excluded.

    I'm all confused. And what is so unique that the Russian Federation produces that cannot be purchased for the ancient S-25 in other countries?
    1. Azimuth
      Azimuth 6 March 2021 17: 02
      +5
      First of all, the engines. It is possible to buy an analogue, but then it would be a matter of export, the Georgians would not be able to sell the Su-25 to the same Azerbaijan. And Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan were their main buyers in recent years before the assembly of the Su-25 was stopped.
      1. Professor
        Professor 6 March 2021 17: 06
        -3
        Quote: Azimuth
        First of all, the engines. It is possible to buy an analogue, but then it would be a matter of export, the Georgians would not be able to sell the Su-25 to the same Azerbaijan. And Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan were their main buyers in recent years before the assembly of the Su-25 was stopped.

        There are no export problems. It all depends on the terms of the contract. EMNIP then the engines were made in Georgia. I personally knew one turbine operator from Ukraine who was there on a business trip.
        1. Azimuth
          Azimuth 6 March 2021 17: 22
          +8
          As far as I know, all the way the engines were made in Rybinsk. Ukrainian enterprises had nothing to do with him.
          The closest engines in terms of characteristics and dimensions are the UK and the EU, at that time the British were in the EU, within the framework of which there is an embargo on the supply of weapons and equipment to a large number of Bantustans, Azerbaijan and Armenia were among them at that time. So deliveries by the Georgians of the Su-25 to one of the parties would have been impossible with a European engine.

          Yes, and no one needs and is not interested in Georgians, now Belarusians are much more relevant. That is, you can buy the Su-25 even from Ukraine, transfer it to the Belarusians, who themselves will buy all the components in the Russian Federation and, after a major overhaul, will deliver it to the address.
          1. Professor
            Professor 6 March 2021 17: 25
            -2
            Quote: Azimuth
            As far as I know, all the way the engines were made in Rybinsk. Ukrainian enterprises had nothing to do with him.

            YUTZ was definitely related. To what extent I am at a loss to say.

            Quote: Azimuth
            The closest engines in terms of haraeteristics and dimensions are the UK and the EU, at that time the British were in the EU, within which there is an embargo on the supply of weapons and equipment to a large number of Bantustans, Azerbaijan and Armenia were among them at that time. So deliveries by the Georgians of the Su-25 to one of the parties would have been impossible with a European engine.

            These are not irreplaceable engines.

            Quote: Azimuth
            And nobody needs Georgians, now Belarusians are much more relevant. That is, you can buy the Su-25 even from Ukraine, transfer it to the Belarusians, who themselves will buy all the components in the Russian Federation and, after a major overhaul, will deliver it to the address.

            Not. Belarus is a millimeter away from super sanctions. Which of the normal would dare to associate their money with them?
            1. Azimuth
              Azimuth 6 March 2021 17: 36
              +3
              Then the same Azerbaijan is more profitable.
              I wrote above, the Georgians sold them all the documentation for the Su-25.
              The Azerbaijanis have excellent relations with the Jews, that is, the version with Elbit can be upgraded to the KM version. We also have good relations and can buy anything, especially since we ourselves do not bother with the Su-25. So the Azerbaijanis can now perform both overhaul and modernization faster than the Georgians. They invested in the Algerians the MiG-25 in the 2000s, which means that the people did not run away and not only the base remained, but also the personnel.
              1. Professor
                Professor 6 March 2021 17: 40
                -3
                Quote: Azimuth
                Then the same Azerbaijan is more profitable.
                I wrote above, the Georgians sold them all the documentation for the Su-25.
                The Azerbaijanis have excellent relations with the Jews, that is, the version with Elbit can be upgraded to the KM version. We also have good relations and can buy anything, especially since we ourselves do not bother with the Su-25. So the Azerbaijanis can now perform both overhaul and modernization faster than the Georgians. They invested in the Algerians the MiG-25 in the 2000s, which means that the people did not run away and not only the base remained, but also the personnel.

                Azerbaijan has the same right to the Su-25 as the RF and Georgy. Next is the market. The client decides who to buy from.

                PS
                In general, today everyone has the right to produce the S-25. Even Israel. There are no violations of rights in this.
            2. Nod
              Nod 6 March 2021 23: 07
              -2
              There are no more disgusting engines - if they are replaced, then it will be progress ... Back in the USSR, I raised the question of replacing these voracious antediluvian freaks with a wild spectrum of IR radiation with double-circuit ones - and it seems there were even some progress - they began to build a plant on production of aircraft engines, but did not have time ...
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 6 March 2021 17: 08
      +2
      You can buy everything, but it's more difficult with an airplane than with a truck. Something there with the approval of the type and the support of the design bureau ... ... for the sake of the Georgian Su25, no one will do this, and no one will buy homemade products from Georgia for export either. And there is no bother with an almost new attack aircraft either. Their time is running out and their niche was occupied by adar helicopters, UAVs, and tactical aircraft ..... Even in the Russian Federation they are only engaged in repair and modernization.
      1. Professor
        Professor 6 March 2021 17: 13
        -1
        1. Let's leave the need for attack aircraft aside. Let's say they have a place in the sun.
        2. After the demise of the USSR, Georgia (one of the 15 legal successors of the USSR) produced the Su-25.
        3. There would be clients.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 6 March 2021 17: 16
          +2
          She released them ... Where is Sukhoi KB? So the Russian Federation can then produce An-124 Ruslan and An-24.
          For internal purposes, they can. The external buyer will ponder ...
          1. Professor
            Professor 6 March 2021 17: 22
            -2
            Quote: Zaurbek
            She released them ... Where is Sukhoi KB? So the Russian Federation can then produce An-124 Ruslan and An-24.

            It seems to be releasing or going to release.

            Quote: Zaurbek
            For internal purposes, they can. The external buyer will ponder ...

            Think about the price and the reliability of the supplier. Everything else is not interesting.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 6 March 2021 17: 24
              +2
              For a combat aircraft there are fewer problems ... for a civilian more. So to speak.
              1. Professor
                Professor 6 March 2021 17: 26
                +1
                Quote: Zaurbek
                For a combat aircraft there are fewer problems ... for a civilian more. So to speak.

                Mimino combat aircraft.
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 6 March 2021 17: 34
                  +2
                  So, there the turbojet engine is constructively from the MiG21, without an afterburner. Kmtay releases copies, which means that something similar can be bungled.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 6 March 2021 17: 36
                    -1
                    Thats exactly what I mean.
                    Quote: Professor
                    At the same time, it is not known where Georgia gets the components for the aircraft, since deliveries from Russia are completely excluded.

                    I'm all confused. And what is so unique that the Russian Federation produces that cannot be purchased for the ancient S-25 in other countries?
                    1. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 6 March 2021 17: 39
                      +1
                      And the Russian Federation does not strive to change something there ..... apparently, they believe that the century is leaving.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 6 March 2021 17: 40
                        -1
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        And the Russian Federation does not strive to change something there ..... apparently, they believe that the century is leaving.

                        Correctly considers.
  19. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 6 March 2021 17: 00
    0
    And interestingly, the engines will also do it themselves?
  20. comradChe
    comradChe 6 March 2021 17: 10
    +1
    I wonder who works at these enterprises? Proud Georgians? It is excluded, not a master's business. Aaaaa, these are "brothers in arms" from Ukraine inject. Forge, so to speak, a sword to fight the common aggressor and occupier. Companions and like-minded people.
    1. Professor
      Professor 6 March 2021 17: 15
      0
      Quote: comradChe
      I wonder who works at these enterprises? Proud Georgians?

      Yes, Georgians. And the youth. They practically do not speak Russian.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 6 March 2021 17: 21
        +3
        People under 30 do not speak anymore. I go for work once or twice a year. And so, Georgians, who else?
      2. d1975
        d1975 6 March 2021 23: 09
        0
        Is this good or bad ?
        1. Professor
          Professor 7 March 2021 07: 44
          +1
          Quote: d1975
          Is this good or bad ?

          The fact that they speak English well. Otherwise, "don't understand yours"
    2. Azimuth
      Azimuth 6 March 2021 17: 25
      -5
      Both Georgians and Slavs, including Russians.
      But some Russians, for example from the Kuban, as a tribute to fashion in their common love for us, remember their roots and as one Ukrainians, hereditary Zaporozhye Cossacks.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 6 March 2021 17: 43
        -3
        If the Kuban separated from the USSR in 1991, it would be exactly the same as it would be said in western Ukraine.
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 6 March 2021 20: 52
        +3
        Usually the Kuban people are offended when they are confused with the Ukrainians.
      3. d1975
        d1975 6 March 2021 23: 19
        +2
        Mitrich skoka balls you have a brain earthquake? Yes, we remember, but when we don’t think about you as separate from Russia and the Russians. I can both balak and speak. And if anything, I will not hesitate for a second! You have Mazepa, and we have other chieftains and heroes. Yes, there is a monument on Taman, we honor our ancestors, but not those who have forgotten who they were by birth. I will not forget my trips to Yasinovataya and what's next. Your intellect has seen! It’s a pity they don’t miss the mate, I would write! What kind of love can there be for you? Why love you? Thank our drunkard Yeltsin and tell Gorbaty. For me, there are many for your Ukroreikh and three regions. am
  21. iouris
    iouris 6 March 2021 17: 19
    +1
    What had to be done with Georgia for the Georgians to go to work at the aircraft plant ?! Reptiles.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 6 March 2021 17: 25
      -2
      And who worked there under the USSR? Armenia and Georgia have always been mono-national republics (with the exception of the autonomies of the Ossetians and Abkhazians.
      1. Azimuth
        Azimuth 6 March 2021 17: 45
        +2
        No, only Armenia became mono-national, or rather almost mono-national in Transcaucasia, and then only before the collapse of the USSR, when the influence of the Center and the CPSU weakened, but the nationalists took the upper hand, this is somewhere closer to the mid-80s. In the neighborhood with the Armenians, only the Yezidi Kurds survive and live now.
        And Georgia and Azerbaijan both were and remain multinational, in both republics, in addition to the peoples of the USSR, many different indigenous peoples live.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 6 March 2021 17: 50
          +1
          Azerbajan yes. He is still multinational. And who lives in Georgia?
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 6 March 2021 21: 27
            +1
            Quote: Zaurbek
            Azerbajan yes. He is still multinational. And who lives in Georgia?

            As far as I know, at least Armenians and Azerbaijanis live in Georgia. Indeed, during the Karabakh events, they also remembered about Javakhetia.
      2. comradChe
        comradChe 7 March 2021 16: 45
        0
        In Soviet times, workers and specialists from all over Mother Russia were sent to work at the enterprises of the "proud" but ass-armed Georgia. Yaroslavl and Rybinsk actively, but against their will, participated in this. As the returning business travelers said, the local "proud Georgians" looked at them with contempt and sounded through their teeth: "Let the Russians work." And from what Ragul aul will you be Zaur Bek?
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 7 March 2021 21: 33
          0
          From the aul Khatazhukai .....
  22. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 6 March 2021 18: 19
    +3
    The Su-25 is the standards of the Soviet Union, not NATO. Disorder.
  23. Growlers
    Growlers 6 March 2021 20: 27
    +1
    Ukraine over there is riveting the "most modern", "most terrifying" tanks from a Soviet-era tank cemetery ...
  24. ck9999999
    ck9999999 6 March 2021 21: 02
    +4
    The restoration was announced and demonstrated, but what is the essence of modernization? In the mirrors of Colchis?
  25. d1975
    d1975 6 March 2021 23: 08
    0
    The first time I read this: "The first restored Su-25 attack aircraft flew into Georgia!" Then I read it!)))) Yes, it's a pity they didn't go to Tiflis in 2008, maybe the Su-25 would have flown in then. Politics ..... what would her!
  26. Pavel57
    Pavel57 6 March 2021 23: 45
    0
    The Hungarians wrote off their Su-25s. You could buy them on the cheap.
  27. ASG7
    ASG7 7 March 2021 13: 21
    -1
    No offense to the Su-25filov, but today drones and guided missiles will be more effective, and this is high technology. So, "adjusting the production" of the Su-25s by Georgia is an indicator of a low level of technological development (well, like, earning money for easy selling to Africa).
  28. Glagol1
    Glagol1 7 March 2021 15: 17
    0
    Don't overestimate. In Georgia, there are several pieces in storage, plus Ukrainian friends, there may be 20 pieces, Azerbaijanis, Eastern Europe, there will be 50 pieces per circle. These clients will not be repaired with us. So it can be called a reasonable step. But all the same, local history, our engines, we will not give, there remains cannibalization. The plane is good, it still flies.
    1. d1975
      d1975 7 March 2021 22: 35
      0
      And whose dvigun is there? Well, the broom is made of willow twigs))))
  29. YOUR.
    YOUR. 7 March 2021 15: 38
    +1
    The restored attack aircraft after rolling out of the workshop turned out to be Colchis :)
  30. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 March 2021 19: 05
    0
    A two-seater airplane means UB. As a rule, he does not participate in hostilities, only for training.
  31. TECHNOTA
    TECHNOTA 10 March 2021 23: 46
    0
    Manufacturing - neighing. Junk repair and one for two kopecks and on the knee. They didn't even bother to remove the old sealant from the shells of the lantern, so they covered it up with paint. The external condition of the cabins is another story altogether. It can be seen that if half of the units were removed, then they certainly did not even get over. The block of buttons for releasing and resetting the TP was taken out of the trash heap. The headrests on the chairs were updated, tinted, the rest of the mechanism of the rods on the starboard side did not even understand, and it is tattered on the CM, it’s too much to climb there, it’s necessary to have specialists for the chair, and not only for re-packing the parachute with NAZ, but the suspended ones are new they are striking because they are bright ... It is already clear that at least something new has been stuck. In the cabins of both Paks GPS-ki, in the front one on the ILS primastyrin, in the second one on the right knee for tidying ..... For a campaign, MAP can only show how in a cartoon once its control is partially closed or all navigation is inoperative if in the PMU and the sun all around both pilots are dragging third-party navigation into the cockpits. A circus for suckers, to raise morale and write off the next budget. This circus really smiled.
  32. sasha546
    sasha546 April 10 2021 19: 26
    0
    The most socially unprotected profession in Georgia is test pilots. The state does not provide them with a pension. Not so long ago, 70 workers of the assembly shop of the aircraft plant were suing the state. The state tried to take their pensions away from them too. The paradigm of the Georgian government is bribery and money-grubbing. Georgia spends 8% of its budget on arms purchases. Part of this money is pensions taken from aviators and supplements to pensions from those who flew in state-owned airlines. In 2005, the Law on State Compensations and State. Discrimination is legalized in Georgia for academic scholarships: a pension is not provided for those flying in private airlines in Georgia. Adopted in 2014 as a condition for visa-free travel with EU countries, the "law on the elimination of all forms of discrimination" is not recognized by the state authorities of Georgia. The appeal to the 3 heads of state, the Prime Minister, the Chairman of the Parliament and the President of Georgia has remained unanswered for 1,5 years. Probably, for the law to work, it is necessary to file a lawsuit against the "Guarantor of the Constitution" of the President of Georgia.