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US users comment on admiral's proposal to equip Zumwalt destroyers with a laser cannon

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In the United States, they continue to look for options for the use of ultra-expensive stealth destroyers of the Zumwalt class. Recall that initially the US Navy announced its readiness to order 32 such warships, but when it turned out that only one cost about $ 4 billion, the program was cut sharply. At the moment in the line-up fleet 2 destroyers of this class - USS Zumwalt itself (DDG-1000) and USS Michael Monsoor (DDG-1001). Two more are expected.


The commander of the US Navy's naval operations, Admiral Mike Gilday, meanwhile, made a new proposal on how stealth destroyers could be used. According to him, it is necessary weapon, which will cause damage to warships and critical coastal infrastructure of the enemy. For this, according to Guilday, a combat laser weapon - a laser cannon - should be installed on board the Zumwalt-class destroyers.

According to the American admiral, if a laser cannon is installed on the Zamvolts, "their combat power will significantly increase." The admiral also proposes to turn destroyers of this class into "test sea platforms for promising hypersonic weapons, which can subsequently be equipped with warships."

Recall that earlier in the United States planned to equip the Zumwalt with an electromagnetic gun. About these plans with a pile of all kinds of weapons in the United States, users joke:

The admiral offered to install a laser cannon. And where is the electromagnetic gun?

We can offer to install on our newest destroyers whatever the admirals can think of. From hypersonic missiles to combat lasers. But then where are these combat lasers and where are the hypersonic missiles? So far only uses a regular ship cannon.

Recall that not so long ago, the stealth destroyer was indeed taken out to sea, where, during maneuvers, using all of its weapons, it used a conventional ship's cannon to shoot at targets on the water. Then it caused surprise, because the tasks of Zamvolta were originally defined as striking enemy targets (including ships) from outside the affected area.
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Facebook / USS Michael Monsoor
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 4 March 2021 15: 32
    +4
    There was a rail thrower, a gun at 100500 km, now there is a laser. When they do, let them inform me, I give up Gazprom's lighters when I light it, I switch to the Zumwalt lighter. Yes, no one thought that the "Kings of the Quays" were built.
    1. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 4 March 2021 15: 33
      +17
      According to Guilday, a combat laser weapon - a laser cannon - should be installed on board Zumwalt-class destroyers.

      According to the American admiral, if a laser cannon is installed on the Zamvolts, "their combat power will significantly increase."

      And arm the crew with blasters lol
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 4 March 2021 15: 38
        +6
        Quote: Scary_L.

        And arm the crew with blasters lol

        And Plasma cannons and all sorts of annihilators ... like in Starship Troopers wassat and the commander so that the Telepath was necessarily!
        1. Temples
          Temples 4 March 2021 16: 22
          +19
          The commander will be a narrow-eyed black homosexual transvestite with boobs of size 4. Otherwise it is not tolerant. wassat
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 5 March 2021 00: 32
            0
            And what, only I was surprised in the article by the mention of 4 Zamvolta?
            There will be three of them, and on the third, the superstructure is no longer made of balsa, but metal.
            The third will be very visible to everyone. hi
          2. Richard
            Richard 5 March 2021 08: 12
            0
            The commander will be .... with size 4 boobs. Otherwise not tolerant

            Xixiang? winked
      2. Mwg
        Mwg 4 March 2021 15: 47
        +2
        And Imperial stormtroopers as troops.
        Captain - Darth Vader
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 4 March 2021 15: 48
        +9
        Quote: Scary_L.
        And arm the crew with blasters

        Ali has already thought about arming the American crew lol
        1. Terrible_L.
          Terrible_L. 4 March 2021 15: 52
          0
          Also quite an option) hi
        2. dzvero
          dzvero 4 March 2021 16: 42
          +3
          Ali has already thought about arming the American crew

          I thought, but not quite - the color of the sword is not LGBT, and the quartermaster does not approve of the price ...
        3. ironic
          ironic 4 March 2021 17: 59
          -7
          And the Navy Shatatov thought wink
          / / /
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          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 4 March 2021 23: 11
            +4
            Quote: ironic
            can also be included

            Key phrase. Why is it still not "included"? And was it worth four lards per unit, if a much simpler technique can carry them just as effectively?

            They have forgotten a floating piece of gold, now they think - what would be the same "golden" and unusual thing to sprinkle on it.
            1. ironic
              ironic 5 March 2021 14: 20
              +1
              Because they are introducing the 5th block, and LRASM, first of all, saturate aviation. But nothing needs to be changed in the Mk-57 to put them there. Only Berks and Ticonderogs can carry effectively, but the latter are living out their days, and the former will soon have to be changed to a new project for anyone.

              Sea Wolfe, who did not go into series production, was also bothered, but no one has ever built a boat like him, not even the Americans themselves.
        4. hohkn
          hohkn 5 March 2021 11: 22
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Ali has already thought about arming the American crew

          Look! Quite inexpensive! laughing
      4. Grognag
        Grognag 4 March 2021 17: 14
        0
        Lightsabers
    2. EDWARD
      EDWARD 4 March 2021 16: 26
      +14
      damn .. well, you can install a heat gun. Of course, little sense. but the crew in our latitudes will be warmer)
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 4 March 2021 20: 01
        +3
        The thermal one would be even safer ... The laser can only work in line of sight (well, if the beam is not bent :), with such a range of fire, only the Kalash will probably not reach the entogo Zamvolt, and the rest, in my opinion, will drown it to the horizon :)) And the heat can be used whenever you want.
    3. ironic
      ironic 4 March 2021 17: 24
      .
      The cannon is still there, and there is a small reserve of shells for it, because of the high cost, the shell did not go into production, but it is there. The kings of the berths may have been built, but the Zumvolts are still in use.
      1. KCA
        KCA 4 March 2021 18: 02
        +1
        They walk, walk, everyone knows how they walk, they took a tug from the Suez Canal on a string
      2. ironic
        ironic 4 March 2021 18: 04
        -5
        Correction. An experimental set of rounds was used up in the process of testing guns on land. There are no shells.
  2. Sergey39
    Sergey39 4 March 2021 15: 35
    +7
    Correctly the admiral thinks. The electromagnetic cannon is clearly outdated and unborn. It's time to switch to laser cannons and blasters.
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 March 2021 15: 37
    +12
    Yes, put it on the tracks, there will be a land dreadnought! Equip him with a nuclear cannon, and a supply of nuclei to have a full hold! !! wassat
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 March 2021 15: 40
    +8
    He already has a stealth laser cannon, which even the crew cannot find. wassat
  5. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 4 March 2021 15: 42
    +3
    Zumvolts are designed with a significant excess of generated
    electricity. Especially for the high power weapons of the future.
    For special hyper-missiles, it's stupid to use them.
    Sumvolts already have 82 slots for longer and "thicker" missiles,
    than on Berks.
    But it is very easy to put a powerful air defense / missile defense laser.
    1. Mwg
      Mwg 4 March 2021 15: 50
      +8
      "Zumvolts are designed with a significant excess of generated
      electricity. "- It's time to revive the" Philadelphia Experiment "and be transported in space and time.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 4 March 2021 16: 05
        +1
        Quote: MVG
        It's time to revive the "Philadelphia Experiment"

        Exactly. I read about the destroyer Eldridge in the appendix to the Knowledge is Power magazine. Brochures with blue cover. Extremely hard-core conspiracy theories, straight pamphlet.
        But most, I think, saw the movie with Michael Paré.
      2. ironic
        ironic 4 March 2021 17: 25
        -7
        He was already fully assigned a place in special operations.
    2. bk316
      bk316 4 March 2021 16: 10
      +8
      But it is very easy to put a powerful air defense / missile defense laser.

      Yeah, you can still supply a desalination plant or smelt aluminum.
      It does not seem to you that they made an "unknown monster" and now they are thinking how to use it, but the suitcase is without a handle laughing
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 4 March 2021 16: 14
        0
        Marine Experimental Platforms for Innovation ...
        Is it really bad?
        So they try different "suitcase handles". The main thing is there is a suitcase laughing
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 March 2021 16: 33
          +11
          They didn't foresee a place for a pen, but a little more money and they will find where to add it ... lol
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 4 March 2021 16: 35
            0
            Places just in bulk. There is a lot of free space in Zumvolts
            under the weapon. The suitcase is big. laughing You just need to choose a good "handle".
      2. ironic
        ironic 4 March 2021 17: 28
        -9
        I would put it as an electric mumble on the VO forum, and there would be enough generator for all mummies and damage would be done to all enemies. They would have been hacked to death with the Zumwilt Drive, no one would have licked their lips clean. lol
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 4 March 2021 18: 36
          +4
          Would hack them to death with a Zumvilt drive, no one would lick clean
          Monsieur knows a lot about perversions laughing
          1. ironic
            ironic 4 March 2021 18: 37
            -6
            So how can you not get acquainted with this on the VO forum? Not a single unsprayed topic. recourse
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 4 March 2021 18: 48
              +4
              You probably need to honor the forums with your presence on other topics, tolerant laughing so to speak
              You need to either change the accent or fasten the fly ... well, or make a cut.
              1. ironic
                ironic 4 March 2021 18: 55
                -4
                Well, then you need to take with you many generalissimos of this forum, they will be at times more experienced than me in manual work.
    3. dzvero
      dzvero 4 March 2021 16: 44
      +3
      Zumvolts are designed with a significant excess of generated
      electricity.

      Could it be that the switchboards on it could not withstand the load? Or I got it.
    4. Wedmak
      Wedmak 4 March 2021 16: 53
      +2
      But it is very easy to put a powerful air defense / missile defense laser.

      Of course, it's easy, where else to get it ... Yes, so that it works normally at sea, but for 100500 km ...
    5. Avior
      Avior 4 March 2021 21: 27
      0
      There is no such laser yet
      And new missiles would be useful in the transition to New cells on future NKs.
    6. Quadro
      Quadro 5 March 2021 06: 17
      -1
      Another tale of reclaiming. It was because of the "excess of generated energy" that he had eternal problems with this very energy.
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 March 2021 15: 48
    +5
    I suggest using the laser in a slightly different way, just cutting the Zumvolts on needles.
    1. vadim dok
      vadim dok 4 March 2021 16: 11
      -7
      Soon, you see, Admiral Kuznetsov will cut!
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 4 March 2021 16: 12
        +1
        Fuck you guessed it. fool
    2. grandfather_Kostya
      grandfather_Kostya 4 March 2021 17: 04
      +2
      I'll develop an idea for a "cut": equip the Zumvolt with grappling hooks and cut enemy ships afloat. One thing is that you have to carry a metal barge and a floating crane.
    3. Login_Off
      Login_Off 5 March 2021 06: 36
      +4
      Better to sell to Ukraine as military aid.
      Almost new wunderwattle at 4 cores apiece. They will take a loan from the IMF.
      Here, and the United States is happy, and Ukraine will be happy with this toy, and Russia giggles calmly.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 5 March 2021 07: 33
        +1
        The idea is original, if you want to ruin and ruin the Banderlog, give them a Zumvolt. laughing
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 4 March 2021 15: 56
    +2
    So their business .... there is a chumadan, now they want to attach a handle to it.
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 March 2021 16: 32
      +4
      The suitcase turned out to be a very peculiar handle, there is nowhere to screw, but let's see ...
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 4 March 2021 16: 54
        +1
        As it is not where ... To the keel. And why is it harder to screw it on.
        1. ironic
          ironic 4 March 2021 18: 42
          -4
          Isn't that some kind of masturbation-inducing boozer?
      2. ironic
        ironic 4 March 2021 18: 42
        -3
        Hmm, people lose their sight at the sight of a Zumvolt ... And the Americans still want to use weapons from it. And it seems to be low. What for? It turns out that you need to show it. No laser. It deprives of sight by one appearance.
      3. rocket757
        rocket757 4 March 2021 18: 59
        +1
        So it was an experiment with a quirk ... they already went through this, but, they cannot in a simple way, they must in their own way.
        Expensive, of course, but sometimes a wonderful result is obtained.
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 March 2021 21: 10
          +4
          What do you mean expensive? have already invested, though they did not understand what, let them settle now ... lol
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 5 March 2021 08: 02
            0
            The handle, the handle of the chumodan must be attached! Painfully, he is handsome and expensive, it's a pity to leave him like that.
  8. Tagan
    Tagan 4 March 2021 15: 57
    +2
    Quote: Scary_L.

    And arm the crew with blasters lol

    Laser pointers from Alik (already outstripped)))
    1. ironic
      ironic 4 March 2021 18: 39
      -4
      Better splash protection with instructions in Russian. wink lol
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner 4 March 2021 15: 57
    +3
    I propose, in addition to the laser cannon, equip the commander with a lightsaber, the team with blasters.
  10. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 4 March 2021 16: 00
    +1
    It seems that now the US Navy does not know what to do with these expensive "irons" ....
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 4 March 2021 16: 11
      +2
      They really don't know. She built a monster, money is spent on maintenance, the crew is paid a monetary allowance, while the crew is eating food. No saboteur would be able to spoil the pins as they do with these "irons"
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 4 March 2021 16: 38
        0
        Each of the three Zumvolts can land 80 long-range missiles.
        But, of course, they are designed for much more.
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 4 March 2021 16: 54
          +5
          Warrior-to whom, more precisely, where can they in theory "plant" something? This is too expensive a toy to use it as a combat unit. His weakness is in his strength, or rather, in his power plant, which showed itself in such a way that it was necessary to cut the board to replace the burned out electric generator. The ship is not intended for combat, and is not adapted for repairs, especially emergency, as in the case of a generator. So, no one will place any 80 missiles on it.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 4 March 2021 17: 00
            0
            The missiles are installed on the first Zumvolt for sure.
            He can join the battle at any time.
            On the second? - you need to check its readiness status.
            On the third, not yet.
            But if the Americans start a grater with China, then, do not hesitate,
            all Zumwolts will be thrown into battle.
            The Americans never kept their largest ships in reserve at the berth.
            They threw it into the thick of it - successfully and unsuccessfully, as it turned out.
          2. ironic
            ironic 4 March 2021 17: 17
            -7
            And for example, "Kazan" is a cheap toy? But they are going to use it. The sides are cut for repair, usually not on American ships. But on the forum VO what is not cut. But in one thing you are right, these ships need to be handed over to the VO forum for dry masturbation. Here he will inflict the most damage on ... Runet. How many people will be killed up to the clave taking it out of the battle is not covered by any 80 missiles.
            1. Thrifty
              Thrifty 4 March 2021 17: 24
              +4
              Ironic hi a new submarine is being built to replace old-generation boats, this is a necessary boat, a new, complex one, but it also has tasks and weapons. And three stealth destroyers with a displacement of a cruiser were built only because money was allocated for them. We could have built a bunch of ordinary Arleigh Burks, that's understandable, but this is just a headache for ourselves!
              1. ironic
                ironic 4 March 2021 17: 32
                -9
                Yeah, the boats need to be replaced by a dofig yesterday, but she is alone and not today, but for a dofig of money. But three cruisers with a crazy backlog in energy, unprecedented electronic stuffing, awareness and combat control abilities, it's better to scold Berkov, which, by the way, is time to start changing for something new. And the Americans do not even know that they also made three pieces of sea wolves in vain. They were also innovative and terribly expensive and did not go into the series. And they still have no competitors, not even the Americans themselves.
                1. Thrifty
                  Thrifty 4 March 2021 17: 57
                  +5
                  Ironic - first of all, what is the competition? After all, these are essentially concepts for which everything is there, but only in theory. You yourself admit that even the shells for the gun are expensive - 800000 bucks, as far as I remember, that the ship did not become a mass series precisely because of its unnecessary complexity, unnecessary for a battleship! Let's say it would be a commercial project, a reserve for the future for the civilian fleet, of course, innovations, new technologies, this will be in demand. But, for a war, first of all, lack of versatility, mass character, relatively inexpensive ships with the same weapons are needed. ...
                  1. ironic
                    ironic 4 March 2021 18: 08
                    -4
                    Not unnecessary complexity, but unmanageable high cost for serial production. It's the same with sea wolves. Time will pass and Virginia will begin to get close to the serial capabilities of making boats at a level close to wolves. Versatility is needed only in consumer goods; in war, functionality and aptitude are needed.
                    1. Thrifty
                      Thrifty 4 March 2021 18: 42
                      +4
                      Ironic "we speak different languages ​​again"! The time will come. ... but will it not become so obsolete that by that time the best way out will be to dispose of it? After all, the Zumwalts lack the main thing - relatively inexpensive, and high-quality, modern, high-tech weapons! The ship was ahead of its time in some way, perhaps, but the fact is that three pennants are available, and what and how they should do now, the command does not know, "Chapai will think", although it was necessary to think when the project was just started! Now we need to decide. ..
                      1. ironic
                        ironic 4 March 2021 18: 54
                        -4
                        Well, the wolf for 32 years seems to be calculated, if necessary, they can extend it for another dozen. But even the Americans themselves have no equal yet. Zumvolts are missing only shells for the guns and for the existing CDs, still tactical ballistic missiles, both of which are in development, and at least the latter will be put into service within five lathes, and it obviously takes 30-40 years that way. Three pennants are available, this is the standard of the first small series, and they did not begin to make a large one clearly because of the high cost of the project. For if they made a large one, the projectile would not cost 800K and would also go into series.
        2. Wedmak
          Wedmak 4 March 2021 16: 56
          +6
          These missiles could be put on any barge, and not on an iron for an offerofig dollars.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 4 March 2021 17: 06
            -2
            Any first class ocean-going ship.
            Americans have more than 70 Berks.
            And there are only three experimental cruisers.
            About "irons" ... The seaworthiness of the Zumvolts is better than that of the Berks and Ticonderogs.
            Specially compared in a storm off Alaska.
            The Zumvolt is capable of launching rockets when Burke is already pumping so hard that
            no fight is possible.
            1. Thrifty
              Thrifty 4 March 2021 17: 14
              +4
              Alexey, it's not just about the ability to launch rockets. The fact is that the ship turns out to be problematic, expensive to repair when damaged. First of all, this is its superstructure made of balsa, any rocket will turn it into dust. It is a complex, capricious, and expensive building, just like the zumwalts themselves. It was necessary to build one, fully arm, check in a military campaign, draw conclusions, and not build three for no one knows why, when even one does not know what to arm.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 4 March 2021 17: 32
                -1
                "It was necessary to build one, fully arm, check in a military campaign," ///
                ----
                That one, that three - about one money. Because, starting from the second, with 3-D design and modular assembly, the cost price drops significantly.
                This can be seen in the production of Ford-class aircraft carriers.

                Turn back into history.
                To the history of naval battles.
                Most of the projects of new battleships, cruisers, dreadnoughts, battleships
                were either unsuccessful or unsuccessful.
                They were drowned by submarines or aircraft, they exploded on mines, cellars exploded,
                they were shattered by enemy shells of a larger caliber, they ran into ambushes ..
              2. ironic
                ironic 4 March 2021 18: 13
                -4
                When damaged, Ford, Sea Wolf is hardly cheaper, and if you take it on par with the budget, then Ash is not cheaper for you if damaged. So now, don't let go? Today's composites are often stronger than steel. By the way, the last Johnson is pure steel, by the way from the economy. They always start with a small series of three to prevent heavy projects from going into a large series. They do not yet know how to arm them with what only cannons.
            2. Quadro
              Quadro 5 March 2021 06: 22
              +1
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Any first class ocean-going ship.
              Americans have more than 70 Berks.
              And there are only three experimental cruisers.
              About "irons" ... The seaworthiness of the Zumvolts is better than that of the Berks and Ticonderogs.
              Specially compared in a storm off Alaska.
              The Zumvolt is capable of launching rockets when Burke is already pumping so hard that
              no fight is possible.

              Storyteller, since when did the experimental ships initially want to order as many as 32 pieces ?! And only then they reduced it, tk. crap. But the Jews sculpt fairy tales about "experimental"
          2. ironic
            ironic 4 March 2021 17: 22
            -6
            What are these? If Axle Block 5 is still possible in the Mk41 in the shock version, did you know that it can be put on any barge?
        3. Galleon
          Galleon 4 March 2021 17: 07
          +2
          Alexey, you appeal to the reason of the commentators, but they have another latrine here. we are talking about the "dead neighbor's cow".
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 4 March 2021 17: 18
            +1
            Sumvolt, in my opinion, is an interesting innovative project.
            Something new in a pretty stagnant surface shipbuilding.
            A miss only in artillery armament.
            1) too expensive ultra-long-range projectiles
            2) insufficient rate of fire of the electric gun tested on the shore.
            His missile armament is quite decent. Fewer missiles than Berks
            but you can install rockets of larger diameter and length.
            Dear? - Yes. But innovation is always expensive.
            And they pay off only with mass adoption.
            (About the Maxim machine gun, at the beginning, too, all the experts said in unison: too difficult,
            low-tech, you can't get enough ammunition laughing ).
            1. Galleon
              Galleon 4 March 2021 17: 29
              +3
              Yes, and not the only interesting project. I really like their idea and the execution of JHSV - very much in their spirit. Good shipbuilding creativity with good execution. And Zamwalt was a little ahead of his time. It happens that the capabilities of the hardware do not cope with the ideas, but here there were not enough ideas and the level of military thought for the completed "hardware". request
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 4 March 2021 17: 45
                +1
                Catamarans and trimarans are generally very promising.
                The case is expensive, but now there are materials to make
                body and lightweight and durable.
                The littoral trimaran is also criticized. There is a reason:
                forgot to stick the rocket cells into the body.
                The sumvolt is too big, the littoral trimaran is too small.
                But: wild speed, three helicopters. You can put the F-35B on the deck.
                Also a ship of the future with defects of the present laughing
            2. ironic
              ironic 4 March 2021 17: 37
              -6
              The mistake is not in artillery armament, but in the incorrect setting of the task for the ammunition for the cannon. But with ammunition, anyway, they will have to solve the problem now on land. So this can be solved.
              As for the electromagnetic gun, it was actually an option in a single copy for the third ship, and the rejection of it is actually also a mistake.
            3. Avior
              Avior 4 March 2021 21: 34
              0
              It is not entirely clear, by the way, why the shells turned out to be expensive.
              The aiming head should not differ significantly from other guided projectiles, and they are quite reasonable prices, although not cheap of course
              There are also uncontrolled high-precision ones, like Volcanoes, why they are not used is difficult to understand
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 4 March 2021 21: 42
                -2
                That Excalibur, that active-rocket projectiles for Zamwalt. Apparently they are of various sizes, if Excalibur was made for a standard howitzer, then for the zamvolt everything was done on purpose, both the gun and the projectile. Uniqueness is expensive, if the series went, the price would fall.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 4 March 2021 21: 46
                  0
                  I just mean that the aiming electronics does not differ much in price depending on the caliber
                  As for Excalibur, as for Zamwolt's guns
                  The price should not be very different in this part
                  1. OgnennyiKotik
                    OgnennyiKotik 4 March 2021 21: 54
                    -1
                    I'm talking about the very design of the projectile. Probably the projectile for the zamvolta is longer or has other design features in order for more fuel to enter / engine design more / more explosives / can do it all together. The GOS definitely has nothing to do with it, the question is in the shells themselves. Therefore, there is no unification.
        4. nPuBaTuP
          nPuBaTuP 4 March 2021 17: 20
          +2
          Yes, at least 100500 missiles, as you say ^ long-range ^ ... Only these missiles are not yet available, and in the foreseeable future it is not expected ... So he only has working artillery ...
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 4 March 2021 17: 37
            0
            There are tomahawks, how can you do without them? belay
            There are missiles against submarines, anti-aircraft missiles.
            And on the way is the SM-3, a missile defense missile converted into an anti-ship missile.
            1. ironic
              ironic 4 March 2021 18: 18
              -3
              The dual-use SM-6 is also on the way.
          2. ironic
            ironic 4 March 2021 17: 40
            -5
            How is it not? And what then is the Ax block 4 upgrade 1 and the started block 5? Is that the type of elephant does not count?
  11. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 4 March 2021 16: 03
    0
    It seems that the US defense industry is degrading. It seems that there is funding and competent specialists, but from the outside it looks as if schoolchildren are engaged in amateur performances. There is no sense of a design concept with a capital letter.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 4 March 2021 16: 58
      +2
      They have no goal. The technology is there, the knowledge is there, the resources are there - there is no goal. Well, of course, the cut of money is attached.
    2. Avior
      Avior 4 March 2021 21: 36
      -2
      Trying to get a breakthrough technology
      We began to make the Ship, without waiting for the creation of all the components.
      The first Idzhis, by the way, did not know how to VPU and the rate of fire of modern versions they never dreamed
  12. cniza
    cniza 4 March 2021 16: 30
    +3
    Recall that not so long ago, the stealth destroyer was indeed taken out to sea, where, during maneuvers, using all of its weapons, it used a conventional ship's cannon to shoot at targets on the water.


    Who said it would be easy? lol but money is easily mastered ...
  13. RealPilot
    RealPilot 4 March 2021 16: 36
    +2
    And I know what the creators of "irons" were inspired by! Odd, so complete ...


    Generals go to Hollywood to test the megalaser fellow
    Where do the Russians and Chinese have battle mirrors? soldier
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 4 March 2021 16: 47
      +1
      Yeah. Have seen enough of the movies.

    2. ironic
      ironic 4 March 2021 17: 44
      -4
      It's good that we were inspired, because the stagnation in shipbuilding is complete. Americans rivet Burks, Chinese 55, like big anti-Burks. The Japanese and Koreans are tuning Berks ... Boring. what
      1. Avior
        Avior 4 March 2021 23: 02
        -2
        The Berks turned out to be so successful that the Navy all over the world has embraced Berkomania - from corvette to destroyer.
        Until they get sick and find a better option, it won't be otherwise.
        It is noteworthy that, it seems, besides the Americans with their Zamvolt, no one is looking for other options.
    3. Avior
      Avior 4 March 2021 21: 42
      0
      What were you inspired by? It is known what
  14. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 March 2021 16: 42
    0
    To lukas just behind the death star. laughing
    1. ironic
      ironic 4 March 2021 18: 44
      -6
      Better to Pryanishnikov, it will help hands on the forum. wink
  15. Cowbra
    Cowbra 4 March 2021 16: 47
    +1
    Install shit guns - they can't do anything else for you
    1. ironic
      ironic 4 March 2021 17: 45
      .
      And buy a license from Kalashikov again?
  16. Cowbra
    Cowbra 4 March 2021 17: 08
    +6
    Do you know what's the funniest thing about this news? That Psaki has absolutely nothing to do with it ...
    1. ironic
      ironic 4 March 2021 17: 46
      -7
      But the VO forum has already erased all its hands.
  17. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 4 March 2021 17: 14
    +2
    Who knows why tomahawks don't fly from him? The main armament he has is the missile according to the project.
    1. ironic
      ironic 4 March 2021 17: 46
      -5
      Block 4, upgrade 1, and block 5 are also flying, and they even fly at moving ground targets.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 4 March 2021 18: 00
        +3
        Sho vi you say?
        Destroyer Zumwalt launched 4.4 rocket for the first time
        20.10.2020
        The USS Zumwalt fired the Standard Missile 2, or SM-2, for the first time. This is an important milestone on the path to achieving full combat readiness of the destroyer.

        and NO MORE REFERENCES ABOUT SHOOTING - NOT ONE.
        We got these bots.
        1. ironic
          ironic 4 March 2021 18: 03
          -5
          And sho? Have you fired with axes yet? And what does this mean? And about nothing. PLUR also did not shoot, so they can't?
          Why in big letters? You can erase your hands just as quickly! lol
          1. Artem76
            Artem76 5 March 2021 09: 16
            0
            Dear, take care of your hands, you scribble almost two answers to each comment. You see at the root, but you do not see the whole picture.
            Zamvolt is an experiment, unsuccessful to date, even the Americans admitted. Dot.
            At the expense of stagnant technologies - birds on wings fly according to stagnant technology for millions of years, dogs with four legs also run according to stagnant technology, people reproduced according to stagnant technology, and then ... the Americans came - invented transgender people (and the like) and another 56 sexes man, invented the fu-35, and zamvolt in the piggy bank - however, a breakthrough.
            I am generally silent about ethno-mathematics, - soon with such mathematicians we will see miracles that are steeper than zamvolta.
            There are things that have already proven themselves, you can say forever - a wheel for example. Burks are certainly not eternal, but they still work - why do we need a zamvolt with an incomprehensible purpose?
            1. ironic
              ironic 5 March 2021 14: 12
              0
              I would have kept it, but where can I compete with the forum masters of verbal fetishism. There are so many here that I can't do that much in my entire life. But from the forum almost every second naval sofa sees the picture as a whole.
              Not not bad, but expensive. The Americans did not admit his failure. And therefore only a comma.

              Do you want to fly like a bird? Would you like to flap your wings for a ticket to Turkey? Do you go to work in transport or on four legs? And what about it? People are still struggling with the natural technology of reproduction, and you sent Gd into stagnation. Did the Americans invent transgender people? When was the last time you engaged in broad self-education? The 35th is really an invention. For the 57th, even the assembly of the case in this quality is not yet available. Sumvolt is in the same piggy bank as Sea Wolfe, even the likes of which no one else has, the Americans themselves do not have. And what is wrong with the study of the scientific characteristics of ethnic groups? If it's cooler than Zumvolt, then I'm right behind

              Want a wheel in the first version? Boyce it will disappoint you. Burks are becoming morally obsolete. The Sumvolts are the first serious attempt to look into the future of the strike ships of the fleet and the replacement of Berks with a more modern design is only a function of the allocated budget and time. Now they have a priority to launch a new frigate. Further, just as Virginia has become a cheaper alternative to the sea wolf, Zumvolt will replace the somewhat cheaper destroyer of the future, but will take from Zumvolt everything that can be paid in the series. And Zumvolt will remain a surface Sea Wolf.
        2. ironic
          ironic 4 March 2021 18: 20
          -5
          PS You need to either change the accent or fasten the fly ... well, or make a cut. wink laughing
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 5 March 2021 02: 06
            0
            ironic (Sasha)
            Yesterday, 18: 20

            -1
            PS You need to either change the accent or fasten the fly ... well, or make a cut. wink
            because you are ALREADY circumcised, you have your ears up to your knees. laughing tongue laughing zumvolt israelievsky laughing
            1. ironic
              ironic 5 March 2021 14: 16
              0
              Certainly circumcised, this is the national tradition of my people. good We taught her half of the world how to wash after sex, by the way. wink Ears up to the knees are all that you have left for an illiterate troll. fool And then you already know your predestination - a pit, a fence, oblivion. negative
  18. sir Galant
    sir Galant 4 March 2021 18: 39
    +3
    take technology from Star Wars - the death star for example
    1. ironic
      ironic 4 March 2021 19: 42
      -6
      Better to take from the forum VO. Blinding users completely on the face.
  19. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 4 March 2021 19: 11
    +2
    Rzhu nimagu)))) mattress covers make you happy every day - go ahead guys))) vbuhayte there another 5 - 10 lard. Bobik under the tail)))
    1. ironic
      ironic 4 March 2021 19: 43
      -6
      And when others finally reach for the bobby, they will be right in this very place under his tail. wink There will be such a fifth place, rzhaki under the tail of the bobby. lol
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 March 2021 23: 11
      -1
      So something has already been done in terms of laser weapons. "According to New Scientist, the US Army is creating a tactical ultra-short-pulse laser (UPSL), which is a million times more powerful than similar laser systems.

      In contrast, the new laser will hit targets with short pulses of 1 terawatt and a duration of 200 femtoseconds (one quadrillionth of a second). This is enough to not just melt or burn, but simply vaporize, for example, a drone. In addition, the laser will be able to disable the enemy's electronic systems that are in close proximity to him. Reportedly, the first tests of a combat prototype may take place as early as 2022. These types of laser weapons will be effective against high-speed small drones and even missiles. It is possible that they will be used against manpower, causing burns and, probably, blindness. The goal of the developers is to adapt the large-sized laser installation to army platforms. There is no doubt that in the not too distant future the role of laser weapons on the battlefield will only increase. ”Most likely, the article spoke of just this laser.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 4 March 2021 23: 23
        +2
        I heard tales about a nuclear-pumped laser about 30 years ago, maybe even more. So far, they have remained fairy tales. Then there were fairy tales about lasers for SDI, they also remained fairy tales. And here's another series - I'm afraid that for another 30 years, I will not live, I will not see the grandiose "zilch"))))
  20. ironic
    ironic 4 March 2021 19: 40
    -5
    Which two are expected? What are you authors? What gun did you shoot? Bushmaster? Are you okay by the author?
  21. Elena Akinfieva
    Elena Akinfieva 4 March 2021 20: 39
    +4
    It's even hard to imagine if we had such an iron built, how much they would say flattering about our shipbuilding. And then there is enough defender of this device laughing
  22. faterdom
    faterdom 4 March 2021 23: 43
    +2
    The US admirals with imagination are weak.
    Yes, any schoolchild in our country will say: the disintegrator must be installed, with a small time machine, for 30 minutes. Then there will be a cool bot (or spike).
  23. Ugochaves
    Ugochaves 5 March 2021 03: 46
    0
    Quote: Thrifty
    Yes, put it on the tracks, there will be a land dreadnought! Equip him with a nuclear cannon, and a supply of nuclei to have a full hold! !! wassat

    Gyyy, a sort of American version of Mouse + Sturmtiger, modified and improved laughing
  24. Ugochaves
    Ugochaves 5 March 2021 04: 07
    +1
    Quote: ironic
    And they still have no competitors, not even the Americans themselves.

    No one is in good health with these "products" of the American military-industrial complex and is not going fool
  25. Pardus
    Pardus 12 March 2021 13: 02
    +11
    Admiral Mike Gilday, meanwhile, made a new proposal

    This is not a proposal, this is a "fight" for funding. Lobbying however.
  26. Pardus
    Pardus 12 March 2021 13: 04
    +8
    And where is the electromagnetic gun?

    In Hollywood screenplays yes