Israel finally decided on a new transport helicopter to replace the CH-53 Yas'ur

The Israeli Defense Ministry has finally decided on a helicopter that will replace the aging CH-53 Yas'ur in the country's armed forces. According to the press service of the Israeli military department on Twitter, heavy American transport helicopters CH-53K King Stallion will be adopted.

The interest of the Israeli military in the new American CH-53K transport helicopter was reported back in 2017. In November 2017, a helicopter demonstration was held especially for the IDF, during which the Brigadier General of the Israel Defense Forces Nir Nin-Nun made a 90-minute flight on a new "Stallion" (stallion).

At the same time, Israel refused to purchase Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey convertiplanes, officially leaving only two contenders - the CH-53K King Stallion and the Boeing CH-47 Chinook "flying carriage".

On February 25, 2021, the press service of the Israeli Defense Ministry reported that the Minister of Defense accepted the arguments of the IDF leadership about the choice of a new CH-53K King Stallion transport helicopter, which will replace the CH-53 Yas'ur helicopter, which entered service in 1970.

CH-53K King Stallion is a heavy transport helicopter with a maximum take-off weight of about 40 tons. The machine can carry over 12 tons of cargo on an external sling, and its cargo hold can accommodate up to 55 passengers. The crew of the helicopter is from two to five people - in addition to the two pilots, it can include three shooters that provide all-round protection.

The maximum flight range of the CH-53K is 840 km, the speed is 315 km / h. The helicopter is equipped with active and passive protection systems - in particular, the armored hull protects the crew and passengers from small-arms fire weapons, and active protection systems can protect the machine from damage by missiles.

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[MMX]

Our Mi-26 would be better.

[OgnennyiKotik]

If they bought on the free market, they would have chosen the Mi-8. In the American classification, he is already on the border of the heavy. The Mi-26 is 1,5 times heavier than the CH-53K.
Mi-8 and UH-60 are by far the best multipurpose helicopters. The three-engine CH-53K is a compromise machine when, in fact, there is nothing to choose from.
On the other hand, it is not correct to compare the UH-60, Mi-8, CH-53K, Mi-26, all 4 vehicles have fundamentally different carrying capacity.

[Alien From]

Mi 26 is such a giant ... when it walks over me, incredible power is felt

[Flooding]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

The three-engine CH-53K is a compromise machine when, in fact, there is nothing to choose from.

why three engines?
the basic model, as Vika writes, with two
what has changed in this modification?
the article is extremely scarce on this score

[Kaman]

All that remains is to congratulate the Israeli Air Force on its excellent choice. CH-53K is head and shoulders above the Chinook in performance characteristics.

[dauria]

On the other hand, it is not correct to compare UH-60, Mi-8, CH-53K, Mi-26

CH-53K is our Mi-6, which we lack a little in the Mi-8 -26 niche.
It was a great barn. Strong, sturdy and with a bunch of world records. Albeit with a wooden propeller on the tail.

[ironic]

60s Israel buys for other purposes. The Mi-8 would not be chosen by anyone and on the free market.

[credo]

Quote: MMX

Our Mi-26 would be better.

The Jews have little choice, given the declared independence, so the purchase from the United States was predictable.

[lucul]

The Jews have little choice, given the declared independence, so the purchase from the United States was predictable.

Abazhzhite .... enta .... how is it .... in - but what about "Russia should produce everything by itself," as our Israeli "partners" sang to us, otherwise it is a country-gas station, so why Israel itself does not produce yourself helicopters? )))
Or the technical level of the country does not allow to produce them? ))))

[credo]

Quote: lucul

The Jews have little choice, given the declared independence, so the purchase from the United States was predictable.

Abazhzhite .... enta .... how is it .... in - but what about "Russia should produce everything by itself," as our Israeli "partners" sang to us, otherwise it is a country-gas station, so why Israel itself does not produce yourself helicopters? )))
Or the technical level of the country does not allow to produce them? ))))

I do not pay attention to who and what "sang" in the ear of Russia.
In fact, Israel is the strategic partner of the United States in the Middle East and American Jews are making every effort to ensure that Israel remains the same for the United States in return, receiving comprehensive assistance from the United States, including the necessary weapons.
As for the technical level of Israel and the ability to produce the entire line of weapons at home, there are many factors that affect this ability and do not allow producing everything at home.
By the way, they skillfully use the theme of the Holocaust to obtain weapons from the advanced countries of the world for the damage done to the nation (but not the country).

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: lucul

so why doesn't Israel itself produce helicopters? )))

Israel looked at how Russia buys Boeings and Aerobox and decided if the country with an area of ​​17 km² and a population of 100 million without blushing and without reproach buys it, then why is Israel area 22 km² and 145 mils a person cannot, without any doubt, order several turntables, which, unlike your Boeings, will only have motors and a body.
And if it does not seem convincing to you, then compare equal to equal BELARUS and ISRAEL

[MMX]

Where is there and what do we buy? Facts that is?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: MMX

Where is there and what do we buy? Facts that is?

And you are not yet convinced that I ONLY HAVE FACTS!
Therefore, they just put cons to me and do not mind.

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[MMX]

Duc this citizen. Let them decide for themselves what is best for them for business.
I then thought (based on your "facts") that we are already buying Boeings with airbases for the defense industry, but here it is ...

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: MMX

I then thought (based on your "facts") that we are already buying Boeings with airbases for the defense industry, but here it is ...

You can't even think so. Who will sell it to you. You read how the Turks are being raped.

[MMX]

Is Israel also being raped?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: MMX

Is Israel also being raped?

If you follow the events, then some members of this site are trying to carry out rape, and everything else does not even look like that. But if someone misses this, we will cheer him up at once.

[Professor]

Quote: lucul

The Jews have little choice, given the declared independence, so the purchase from the United States was predictable.

Abazhzhite .... enta .... how is it .... in - but what about "Russia should produce everything by itself," as our Israeli "partners" sang to us, otherwise it is a country-gas station, so why Israel itself does not produce yourself helicopters? )))
Or the technical level of the country does not allow to produce them? ))))

-Mykola, sho is it you have a pig running on three legs in the yard?
- To slaughter the whole pig for a plate of jellied meat?

So, for the sake of a dozen turntables, we should start development and production? They are already at $ 100 million apiece, and if there are only 20-30 of them, then they will generally be diamond. And so we "bought" the world's best helicopter. Although personally I was for Chinhook.

[MMX]

So what about the international market? If 100 million apiece ... what a margin, huh? You need to think wider, wider.

[ironic]

Even in terms of the already created Lavi, it turned out to be more profitable to sell it to the Chinese without an engine and avionics parts, and take ready-made F-16s for ourselves. So sho has already been counted and knocked out.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: lucul

why Israel itself does not produce helicopters? )))
Or the technical level of the country does not allow to produce them? ))))

Allows. I have already explained here at VO that we have few people and there are not enough of them for everything.
We manage earthquakes, tsunamis and bleak spawning, migratory birds and winter banana harvesting in Zimbabwe. We need to spread rot on your Palestinian brothers, shoot Iranian fosterlings in Syria, make drones for the whole world, protection for tanks, and at the same time take care of our own citizens ...
We do not have time to do everything at once, but we still need to manage the whole World, drink tap water, etc.
You know that the Jews bought everything up or, in extreme cases, sold it. We are already working in three shifts, but we do not have time for everything, sorry.

[aszzz888]

A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
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Quote: lucul
why Israel itself does not produce helicopters? )))
Or the technical level of the country does not allow to produce them? ))))

Allows. I have already explained here at VO that we have few people and there are not enough of them for everything.
Мы because we manage earthquakes, tsunamis and bleak spawning, migratory birds and winter banana harvest in Zimbabwe. We need to spread rot on your Palestinian brothers, shoot Iranian fosterlings in Syria, make drones for the whole world, protection for tanks, and at the same time take care of our own citizens ...
We do not have time to do everything at once, but we still need to manage the whole World, drink tap water, etc.

Do not overstrain, you will earn diarrhea, "managers of the whole World"!

[ironic]

So you don't lick your lips clean first then?

[ironic]

Not cost effective. Such things need to be produced in large batches or in cooperation with another country. What is being done.

[ironic]

Surely this purchase will be funded from annual aid, but there are other factors beyond that. 47 was not chosen. And he is also American.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: ironic

Surely this purchase will be funded from annual aid, but there are other factors beyond that. 47 was not chosen. And he is also American.

Yes, everyone understands, they chose from everything American, the main thing is not to be nervous, otherwise you will blurt out something ...

[ironic]

What I can blurt out, you will not hear anyway. And I can print everything that is already known.

[Maz]

On October 12, 1973, during the Yom Kippur War, an Egyptian anti-aircraft missile shot down an Israeli EW CH-53 Yasur helicopter. Five of the seven crew members were killed.

On October 24, 1973, a CH-20 Yasur helicopter was dispatched to evacuate 53 wounded soldiers during the failed assault on Suez. Returning, the helicopter "cut off" the path over the third Egyptian army and was shot down near the city of Port Taufik, probably from Strela-2 MANPADS. All 24 people on board died
On April 19, 1974, during the battles for Mount Hermon, two CH-53 Yasur helicopters collided and collapsed. In one helicopter, the entire crew was killed - nine people, in the second there were no deaths [16].

On June 11, 1982, during the First Lebanese War, they tried to use the CH-53 helicopter to evacuate the Cobra helicopter, which was knocked out by their own tanks. The Yasura pilot exceeded the speed limit and both helicopters were threatened to crash. The decision was made to unhook the transported Cobra - the helicopter crashed, falling from a height of 500 feet.

On February 4, 1997, two CH-53-2000 helicopters collided in northern Israel, resulting in the death of 8 crew members and 65 IDF soldiers and officers. The helicopters flew to replace the personnel of the garrisons of the IDF strongpoints in the Security Zone. This is the most tragic plane crash in Israel's history.

On the night of September 4, 1997, during the evacuation of a surrounded Israeli detachment in Lebanon, CH-53 "Yasur" was fired upon from small arms and a mortar. The damaged helicopter was able to safely land on the runway in northern Israel [17].

On August 11, 2006, during the Second Lebanese War, an anti-tank missile destroyed the CH-53 Yasur, killing the entire crew of five [18].

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Maz

On October 12, 1973, during the Yom Kippur War, an Egyptian anti-aircraft missile shot down an Israeli EW CH-53 Yasur helicopter. Five of the seven crew members were killed.

On October 24, 1973, a CH-20 Yasur helicopter was dispatched to evacuate 53 wounded soldiers during the failed assault on Suez. Returning, the helicopter "cut off" the path over the third Egyptian army and was shot down near the city of Port Taufik, probably from Strela-2 MANPADS. All 24 people on board died
On April 19, 1974, during the battles for Mount Hermon, two CH-53 Yasur helicopters collided and collapsed. In one helicopter, the entire crew was killed - nine people, in the second there were no deaths [16].

On June 11, 1982, during the First Lebanese War, they tried to use the CH-53 helicopter to evacuate the Cobra helicopter, which was knocked out by their own tanks. The Yasura pilot exceeded the speed limit and both helicopters were threatened to crash. The decision was made to unhook the transported Cobra - the helicopter crashed, falling from a height of 500 feet.

On February 4, 1997, two CH-53-2000 helicopters collided in northern Israel, resulting in the death of 8 crew members and 65 IDF soldiers and officers. The helicopters flew to replace the personnel of the garrisons of the IDF strongpoints in the Security Zone. This is the most tragic plane crash in Israel's history.

On the night of September 4, 1997, during the evacuation of a surrounded Israeli detachment in Lebanon, CH-53 "Yasur" was fired upon from small arms and a mortar. The damaged helicopter was able to safely land on the runway in northern Israel [17].

On August 11, 2006, during the Second Lebanese War, an anti-tank missile destroyed the CH-53 Yasur, killing the entire crew of five [18].

Yes you are right.
And they will shoot down more, and Iran and Hizbalah will fire at Israel and you will be under one of the missiles.
I WRITE TO YOU FOR A LONG TIME, FLY OUT WHILE THE AIRCRAFT FLY.
But Jewish money is dearer to you than your life, and planes do not fly now.
We flew NOT dear and NOT a friend!

[ironic]

And how to overcome incompatibility with the entire service infrastructure? Will the RF Ministry of Defense also open an account for annual military aid?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: ironic

And how to overcome incompatibility with the entire service infrastructure? Will the RF Ministry of Defense also open an account for annual military aid?

You will not wait, the Russian Federation has enough of its ragamuffins ...

[ironic]

Actually, we have already waited. You just don't know how much investment comes to Israel from Russia, but our military service is really on a different track, so the purchase of Russian equipment is unlikely. Well, perhaps a couple more patents from Kalashnikov.

[svp67]

The Israeli Defense Ministry has finally decided on a helicopter that will replace the aging CH-53 Yas'ur in the country's armed forces. According to the press service of the Israeli military department on Twitter, heavy American transport helicopters CH-53K King Stallion will be adopted.

That is, evolution, from the revolution they decided

refused to purchase Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey converters,

[ironic]

There was not enough money.

[Constanty]

It is strange that the title of the article does not sound:
"The USA sold to Israel another batch of helicopters developed at the beginning of the 60s"

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Constanty

USA sold to Israel another batch of helicopters developed at the beginning of the 60s

Quote: Thrifty

This is, in principle, a more modern modernization of the same helicopter that is still used today! The name is what "royal stallion"! Only, horses do not fly "born to crawl, cannot fly", this is so, for the Israeli military to note. ..

This is born fidget, cannot fly. And with this, the winged horse will be all normal.
CH-53K King Stallion, this is not a gray horse, but a Royal Stallion!
An excellent breed with an excellent pedigree.
Only two years since he entered service with the United States Marine Corps.
We still have a little hair on it, we will push our avionics and any electronic warfare into it from the very beginning, we will file a file under our weapons, and this we are very good at - "kanfetka" will be the envy of everyone!
Our old men Yasuras, like copper bowlers, have served for almost half a century, and Gd himself ordered this. To rattle him not to rattle.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: A. Privalov

We comb it a little more, avionics our yes, we will push any electronic warfare into him from the most nowhere,

If you have avionics, why the hell did you buy it with an American package, again fairy tales for gullible members of the forum?

for our weapons

You decided to make an anti-tank helicopter out of a CH-53K to create a remix of the film "Rambo 2"

"kanfetka" will be the envy of everyone!

..... labor collectives of the SAR and Palestine are already waiting for him with MZA and MANPADS "Verba" on the slopes of the mountains and the desert ... helicopters in the parking lot can be destroyed and ATGMs ...

Our old men Yasuras, like copper bowlers, have served almost half a century, and Gd himself ordered this.

Yes, the service process was well described by a kind forum user Maz in his post ...26 February 2021 20: 19

[ironic]

Because it would not correspond to reality. Otherwise, the Su-35 should have been called an aircraft of the early 80s.

[Constanty]

I know about it. My entry was ironic and referred to information in the BO about Land Rower developed in the 40s.

[ironic]

Yeah. OK. Now I understand.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: ironic

Otherwise, the Su-35 should have been called an aircraft of the early 80s.

Who needs to be called, we will not cry ...

[ironic]

And if you do, how will this affect the iron? No way. What is in it, that is, what is not, is not there, everything else is lyrics.

[tralflot1832]

So it also stands like a yacht from the Israeli oligarch, maybe more.

[ironic]

The only Israeli oligarch with yachts is the one you exported to us via London.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: ironic

The only Israeli oligarch with yachts is the one you exported to us via London.

The thief would not have come to you if he had even a little suspicion of any dirty trick on the part of the Israeli Jews, neither he was the first, nor he was the last ...

[ironic]

Who said he was a thief? Did some court condemn him? If he had condemned him, he would not have been allowed to visit us. And so why should he wait for a catch? His dad is a Jew, he is considered the seed of Israel, the law of return is extended to him. Everything according to the letter.

[Thrifty]

In principle, this is a more modern modernization of the same helicopter that is still used today! The name is what "royal stallion"! Only, horses do not fly "born to crawl, cannot fly", this is so, for the Israeli military to note. ..

[Azef]

Well, Israel is defined, so what? What is this infa for us in Russia ..
Although I understood what this turntable was for, they again steal something from the Arabs, or even worse from ours at the base in Syria. (The latest electronic warfare should be received there) ..

[Flooding]

Quote: Azef

Well, Israel is defined, so what? What is this infa for us in Russia ..

I have two versions:
1.the site of a military-related topic without geographical exceptions
2.the target audience of the article - Israeli readers of the site

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Flood

Quote: Azef

Well, Israel is defined, so what? What is this infa for us in Russia ..

I have two versions:
1.the site of a military-related topic without geographical exceptions
2.the target audience of the article - Israeli readers of the site

Not. This is not news to us.

[Azef]

Quote: Flood

Quote: Azef

Well, Israel is defined, so what? What is this infa for us in Russia ..

I have two versions:
1.the site of a military-related topic without geographical exceptions
2.the target audience of the article - Israeli readers of the site

The good fellow got rid of the points ..
Some "Russian readers" have already posed for criticism ..))))

[Flooding]

Quote: Azef

The good fellow got rid of the points ..

glad to try, your vagabond!

[ironic]

But how will the couch fighters against the Zionist military class know what the enemy who has surrounded on all sides is armed with? And not something, but everything, everything that has not yet been typed. And then they will resell. Come on tour. You will have time to buy and return with a broth.

[tralflot1832]

The Israeli Ministry of Defense was determined, but it seems like shekels were invested in the penguins. Such information was from the guys from the Promised Land. But the Israelis are clearly not Hindus. Someday they will get it.

[ironic]

A third F-35 squadron, but it was initially optionally pre-ordered. And the first 2 KS-46 out of 8 optional.

[tralflot1832]

Honestly, your Adir Penguins don't bother me at all. They bother hot Norwegian guys on their hanging penguins.

[ironic]

And they receive theirs. Penguins will be received by everyone who ordered. This project has already begun to flow, albeit small-scale for now, but it will not go anywhere.

[voyaka uh]

The plane is very, very sophisticated by avionics, but extremely expensive.
Twice as expensive as Chinook.
The decision is controversial ...

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: voyaka uh

The plane is very, very wound by avionics, but extremely expensive

This is the more screwed up Yas'ur ,?
He is, after all, 60+ years old

[OgnennyiKotik]

Between CH-53 Yas'ur and CH-53K, only the chassis and some physical elements are in common. Everything is different there. Avionics, engines (even quantitatively 2 (Yas'ur) versus 3 (K)), cockpit, physical layout, blades, etc.
It moves 2 times more load, over a longer distance than its predecessor.
CH-53K is a completely new helicopter. It is misleading that the Americans change only the letter letter, while it is necessary to talk about a completely new product.

[ironic]

And it seems that there are changes in the chassis. The propeller became one more blade.

[ironic]

So now the only question on everyone's mind is how to bring all the promised assistance into purchases by the 28th. The faster and more expensive the better.

[Lara Croft]

The Israeli military is again making plans for military preparations against the laboring Palestinian and Syrian peoples ...

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Lara Croft

The Israeli military is again making plans for military preparations against the laboring Palestinian and Syrian peoples ...

You forgot for more confidence yesterday day

[ironic]

Against yourself or what? The Palestinian people are Jews. And the Syrian settlers also prefer gestation than returning to their native land.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: ironic

Against yourself or what? The Palestinian people are Jews.

Well, let the Israeli Jews return the occupied territories to the working people of Palestine and dismantle their military settlements ...Comrade Privalov и Professor will be against it, despite your statement that

The Palestinian people are Jews

[ironic]

And how is it that the Israeli Jews will return to the working people of the Jews non-existent territories on which they have to tear down their own civil settlements, for some reason called the military, in which there are no military? And why notwithstanding, if this is exactly what you need to look at?

[aldharald]

Nice helicopter

[amr]

Quote: A. Privalov

We do not have time to do everything at once, but we still need to manage the whole World, drink tap water, etc.

I applaud while standing!))))