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A video of the use of the Russian attack drone "Orion" in Syria appeared on the web

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A video of the use of the Russian attack drone "Orion" in Syria appeared on the web

A video of the use of the Russian medium-altitude strike drone of long duration Orion flight during tests in Syria has appeared on the Web. The plot with the video of the Ministry of Defense was shown on the TV channel "Russia 1".


As follows from the video, one of the Orion drones undergoing tests made a total of 38 sorties, of which 17 with strikes on positions and targets of militants, 20 for reconnaissance and one "for other purposes."

On the drone body, according to military tradition aviation, the stars are plotted, according to the number of departures. Each star additionally contains one letter, where "P" - reconnaissance flight, "B" - combat with strikes and "P" - search and highlighting targets (presumably).


Recall that in August last year, the Russian military department signed a contract for serial production and delivery of the Orion long-duration unmanned aerial vehicle. The Ministry of Defense received the first batch of three Orion drones for experimental military operation in April 2020. The military conducted tests of the drone, including in Syria, after which some changes were made to the design.

Orion was created by the Kronstadt company within the framework of the Inokhodets development project under a contract with the Ministry of Defense. The UAV is capable of staying in the air at maximum load for up to 24 hours. Flight altitude - 7,5 thousand meters. The drone has a maximum payload of 450 kg and is capable of carrying four missiles on board.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 22 February 2021 08: 42
    +9
    Well, obviously from the angle of shooting, it is clear that not all shots of the use of weapons are from him. (You can just see that the rocket arrives from the other side)
    Only in this case it does not matter who / what launched the rocket.
    The device flies, is engaged in reconnaissance and guidance successfully, well, and destroys targets on its own too.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 22 February 2021 08: 46
      +5
      Well, okay. However, judging by the stars on the fuselage, there was a sufficient number of shots in the storeroom. They will show ... then. hi
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 22 February 2021 08: 59
        +5
        Quote: Captive
        Well, okay. However, judging by the stars on the fuselage, there was a sufficient number of shots in the storeroom. They will show ... then. hi


        yes while 38

        Explanation of letter symbols in the text of the article

        1. Slug_BDMP
          Slug_BDMP 22 February 2021 13: 51
          0
          And what is the difference between "reconnaissance" and "search for targets"?
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 22 February 2021 13: 59
            +3
            Most likely, in the first case, we are talking about reconnaissance, as a process of obtaining information, and in the second, about searching and aiming at a target.
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 22 February 2021 15: 41
            +3
            Quote: Slug_BDMP
            what is the difference between "reconnaissance" and "search for targets"?

            Perhaps it is more correct to decipher "P" not as "search" but as "illumination" of the target of the LCC (Laser Target Pointer) ...
    2. Old tanker
      Old tanker 22 February 2021 08: 58
      +9
      There is a start. Now determine the place in the state of the videoconferencing and establish mass production. And then intense combat training and real application in Syria.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 22 February 2021 09: 54
        +6
        Quote: Old Tankman
        further intense combat training and real application in Syria


        Only ? repeat
        1. Old tanker
          Old tanker 22 February 2021 10: 40
          0
          What else do you offer besides this?
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 22 February 2021 10: 42
            +6
            Quote: Old Tanker
            What else do you offer besides this?


            I agree with a fellow countryman from the LPR:

            Quote: 113262
            We need a conveyor assembly of this good. And run in not in Syria, but in the Donbass! The adversaries are flying with might and main! At least they patrol along the Donets to the very border with the Russian Federation. The height is large, sometimes even an inversion trace is visible!


            We are talking about the RQ-4 Global Hawk, which regularly makes reconnaissance flights along the border of the Russian Federation and the front line, without entering the airspace of the Russian Federation, DPR and LPR.

            And also we mean the presence of a certain number of Turkish-made shock UAVs and Polish-made kamikaze drones, and obviously already Ukrop models ...
            1. Old tanker
              Old tanker 22 February 2021 10: 49
              +3
              Well, if the Orions are purchased by South Ossetia or Abkhazia and transferred to Donbass, then they may appear there too. But there will be no official deliveries from Russia to the LPNR. You perfectly understand this.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 22 February 2021 10: 57
                +1
                Quote: Old Tankman
                Well, if the Orions are purchased by South Ossetia or Abkhazia and transferred to Donbass, then they may appear there too. But there will be no official deliveries from Russia to the LPNR. You perfectly understand this.

                Ну repeat ...
                Whether Abkhazia, or South Ossetia or "Voentorg" with "North Wind" - it doesn't matter yes




                BTR-82AM in the village of Stepanovka, Shakhtyorsky district, DPR, 28.08.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX

                1. Old tanker
                  Old tanker 22 February 2021 11: 09
                  +1
                  Well, you would have posted a photo of the T-72B3. Including those knocked out. But "they are not there."
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 22 February 2021 11: 18
                    +2
                    Quote: Old Tankman
                    Well, you would have posted a photo of the T-72B3. Including those knocked out. But "they are not there."


                    What for ? And this is enough to express my position and illustrate "possibilities of the impossible"
                    1. Drugov
                      Drugov 23 February 2021 16: 41
                      -1
                      That's right, you need to think faster and more versatile.
    3. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 22 February 2021 09: 07
      +10
      Quote: Victor_B
      The device flies, is engaged in reconnaissance and guidance successfully, well, and destroys targets on its own too.

      Flies, looks, hits. Here are the goodies ... And more of them for the troops.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 22 February 2021 13: 27
        0
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Flies, looks, hits. Here are the goodies ... And more of them for the troops.

        I join your thought, the all seeing eye and the punishing hand ... Ooh
  2. Destiny
    Destiny 22 February 2021 08: 43
    +14
    The Russian military department has signed a contract for the serial production and delivery of the Orion long-duration unmanned system.

    Here's the good news, so we can.
  3. Bradley
    Bradley 22 February 2021 08: 44
    +11
    In the video, the sound must be quieter, otherwise you can go deaf.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 22 February 2021 09: 13
      +1
      Bradley - humor rated five pluses +++++++++++++ !!!! good good
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 22 February 2021 09: 28
      +22
      Quote: Bradley
      In the video, the sound must be quieter, otherwise you can go deaf.

      Was there a sound there?
  4. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 22 February 2021 08: 45
    -16%
    Of the benefits:
    First confirmed use of a Russian strike UAV
    2 types of guided bombs and 1 guided missile
    Of the minuses:
    Optics are frankly weak
    Journalistic pitch, stars and letters are clearly drawn specifically for reporting
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 22 February 2021 08: 54
      +3
      And once the LOMO optics were considered cool.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 22 February 2021 09: 10
        -1
        Quote: sabakina
        And once the LOMO optics were considered cool.

        Under the USSR. Due to lack of access to Western manufacturers. Somewhere in the closet there are "Zenith ET" and "Amateur-2. And on the shelf for many years digital" SONY " laughing Throughout the socialist camp CMEA. Our tourists and sailors took our cameras for exchange or sale abroad.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 22 February 2021 09: 16
          +1
          Observer 2014, from your post I still did not understand, do you praise the optics of the USSR or haite? recourse
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 22 February 2021 09: 22
            +5
            From a nostalgic point of view, praise. I was engaged in photography, and then it was a whole art. Well, before you take a picture, set the distance on the lens. Aperture. Choose a good angle. Then show it. Print your photo. And now!? Every gopher is an agronomist laughing wassat ...
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 22 February 2021 09: 27
              +5
              Observer 2014, I myself was engaged in photography at school, and you know, on Smena 8M my photos turned out better than on Zenit-ET. And night shooting with flash is generally a song!
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 22 February 2021 09: 36
                -5
                Quote: sabakina
                Observer 2014, I myself was engaged in photography at school, and you know, on Smena 8M my photos turned out better than on Zenit-ET. And night shooting with flash is generally a song!

                I immediately printed that it was a whole art. Eight moons in the night photo "Amateur 2" Without a flash. Almost five hours in the cold at night near the recreation center was shooting in January. And at that time I did not even take "Smena" in my hands. I was engaged in photo hunting "Zenith ET" with a telephoto lens. Owl took pictures of different people there. Nature. Hmm, there was a time. I definitely didn’t sit at home in Tik-Tok. laughing
              2. Humpty
                Humpty 22 February 2021 10: 02
                +4
                Quote: sabakina
                On Smena 8M, my photos turned out better than on Zenit-ET.

                Smena 8M had an important property - it did not fail in the cold.
            2. Flooding
              Flooding 22 February 2021 09: 43
              +2
              Zenit-ET is lying around idle.
              Once every couple of years, I remember him and roll my lip: but it would be nice.
              It doesn't matter if the optics are better or worse.
              The process is important.
              1. igor67
                igor67 22 February 2021 14: 16
                +1
                Quote: Flood
                Zenit-ET is lying around idle.
                Once every couple of years, I remember him and roll my lip: but it would be nice.
                It doesn't matter if the optics are better or worse.
                The process is important.

                I also have Zenit ET, they came with different lenses, Helios and Industar
        2. Vadim Ananyin
          Vadim Ananyin 23 February 2021 20: 11
          0
          Will you sell it?
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 22 February 2021 09: 07
      +7
      Fiery cat - you would not be yourself if you did not spit in the direction of Russian weapons! Where did the drovish about "weak optics" come from? Did our pilots also draw stars during the war on fighters for the media? ??
      1. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 22 February 2021 09: 31
        +5
        Quote: Thrifty
        Where did the drovish about "weak optics" come from? Did our pilots also draw stars during the war on fighters for the media? ??

        Weak optics, or rather the matrix and / or the processor can be seen in the picture, it stupidly fades.
        And stars on fighters were drawn not for sorties, but for downed fascists.
    3. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 22 February 2021 09: 13
      +8
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      Optics are frankly weak

      Yes, the optics are just quite themselves, they zoom in as it should and no distortions are visible.
      But the electronics - the matrix and the processor, yes, they cannot cope.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 22 February 2021 09: 38
        0
        The jacket is in stock - that's where I agree with you, our microelectronics is lagging behind, we have learned how to make good mechanics long ago, but we have trouble with the "military" processors.
        1. Vadim Ananyin
          Vadim Ananyin 23 February 2021 20: 12
          0
          began to lag behind after 90 YY
    4. Pechkin
      Pechkin 22 February 2021 09: 20
      +1
      OgnennyiKotik, I'm wondering if you guessed to delete your comment under another article or a moderator?
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 22 February 2021 09: 23
        -5
        About the next nonsense about those who have no analogues in the world? When do analogs fly decades before? And why do you need to follow the reaction of "foreign experts"?
        No, not me, I wanted to add emoji, it seems they are prohibited here.
    5. donavi49
      donavi49 22 February 2021 10: 11
      +1
      The optics there are not bad - Argos 2 from South Africa, which is assembled from the kit at the NPK SPP into the case and connected. Rather, handling the problem.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 22 February 2021 10: 14
        -9
        Quote: donavi49
        Rather, handling the problem.

        I do not argue, naturally I meant the whole complex of the optoelectronic system, and not separately "optics".
    6. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 22 February 2021 10: 36
      0
      The optics may not be weak. Image processing can be weak.
  5. Abdula
    Abdula 22 February 2021 08: 52
    -38%
    I saw such films twenty years ago, how Israel dalbil Babakhov Hezbollah and Hamas, not there, not in Syria, there is no air defense for CHECKING, and you can stupidly throw bombs on the babakhs from the CORNER, Karabakh is a true indicator of the power of the UAVs of TURKEY AND KAMIKADZE ISRAEL WHERE ALL AIR DEFENSE IS AROUND THERE IS POSSIBLE TO DRAW STARS ON THE FUSELAGE
    1. PN
      PN 22 February 2021 09: 23
      0
      The comment is certainly interesting, but! You still need to be able to use air defense equipment, the same base in Khmeimi is an example of this. Although there is echeloned and stuffed air defense, as an example to foreign customers ...
      1. Cron
        Cron 22 February 2021 09: 31
        +1
        The comment is certainly interesting, but! You still need to be able to use air defense equipment, the same base in Khmeimi is an example of this. Although there is echeloned and stuffed air defense, as an example to foreign customers ...

        Comment as from some gadyushnik channel on YouTube, what's interesting about it? Just right for a census of the gifted on Topwar
    2. Bi-mac
      Bi-mac 22 February 2021 09: 24
      +1
      You had!"?)))
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 February 2021 09: 12
    +1
    In Syria, following the example of Azerbaijan, they need at least five or six pieces for continuous round-the-clock work on the militants. First, destroy equipment and warehouses, then knock out manpower!
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 22 February 2021 11: 19
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      In Syria, following the example of Azerbaijan, they need at least five or six pieces for continuous round-the-clock work on the militants. First, destroy equipment and warehouses, then knock out manpower!

      “Destroy” and “knock out” no problems with this. The problem with detecting these objects. Scouts are needed to see 5 meters below the ground and distinguish the barmaley from the collective farmer.
  7. Svetlana
    Svetlana 22 February 2021 09: 36
    0
    I wonder where the management came from. From Russia or from Khmeimim?
    1. Pechkin
      Pechkin 22 February 2021 10: 41
      +3
      Not from Russia, radius of application 250 km. with UAV-repeater 300 km.
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 23 February 2021 10: 40
        0
        The control radius is not necessarily equal to the combat range, I think. The first is determined by the radio control system, the second by the energy intensity of the engines.
        This is so, thinking out loud.

        Update
        Although the range is determined by the shorter component. What is more briefly unknown. Perhaps a radio.
        1. Pechkin
          Pechkin 23 February 2021 10: 51
          0
          It is control, therefore, with a repeater, the range is increased by 50 km. And he can stay in the air for almost a day. Cruising speed is 120 km / h.
          1. Svetlana
            Svetlana 23 February 2021 10: 54
            +1
            Understood thanks.
  8. Dart2027
    Dart2027 22 February 2021 09: 40
    +5
    Here is a video with normal sound
  9. Konnick
    Konnick 22 February 2021 09: 45
    -7
    Quote: PN
    The comment is certainly interesting, but! You still need to be able to use air defense equipment, the same base in Khmeimi is an example of this. Although there is echeloned and stuffed air defense, as an example to foreign customers ...

    Well, what an example, exactly stuffed, if every important object is covered with so many different air defense systems, no money will be enough for air defense in this format.
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 22 February 2021 09: 58
      +1
      Quote: Konnick
      if each important object is covered with so many different air defense systems, no money will be enough for air defense in this format.

      Well, yes.
      Khmeimim sits stupidly in a deep defense and catches everything that has arrived.
      On the good, it is necessary to carry out comprehensive measures to exclude the very possibility of something flying in (all these barmaley people need to be stupidly soaked on the ground), but there are objective circumstances - the Turkish troops cover the barmaley, and the war with Turkey is not included in the immediate plans. As with Israel, from which, although it does not fly directly to Khmeimim, it can fly very close.
  10. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 22 February 2021 09: 53
    0
    And how many screams there were about a year lag, a couple of months ago. They fly, conduct reconnaissance, bomb and direct.
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 22 February 2021 10: 04
      +2
      Quote: Herman 4223
      And how many screams there were about years behind

      Are you saying there is no backlog?
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 22 February 2021 10: 06
        -2
        I don't know anything about this, and neither do you.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 22 February 2021 10: 09
      +2
      Well, 3 pieces were delivered to the experimental one on Rotax 912, with the Argos2 station from South Africa (this is about optics).
      For others, this is a consumable battlefield UAV with 100+ units in the army.
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 22 February 2021 10: 17
        -3
        Others have it? Enough fingers on the hand to count such countries, then for the battlefield we have a company of UAVs as part of artillery battalions. Not all countries can boast of this either.
        1. Jacket in stock
          Jacket in stock 22 February 2021 10: 30
          +2
          Quote: Herman 4223
          Others have it? Enough fingers on the hand to count such countries, then for the battlefield we have a company of UAVs as part of the artillery battalions

          It’s not funny for yourself?
          For others, it is for our direct opponents - the United States, Turkey, Israel ...
          kakby friends - neighbors - China, Iran ...
          I don't care about the rest, they are not interesting to me.
          And the UAV company is ORLAN-10, old, small and, as a beast, not quite ours.
          And yes, other UAVs of this class, like our new Orion, really appeared years ago.
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 22 February 2021 10: 33
          +4
          USA (battle-tested)
          China
          Saudis (battle tested)
          UAE (battle tested)
          Turkey (battle tested)
          Israel (battle tested)
          Britain
          Egypt (battle tested)
          Iran (battle tested)

          This is who are massively. And a bunch of others who have a few (but more Orions), for example Nigeria, Qatar, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh (3x2 WingLongs 2 bought at 18), Libya (both PNS and LNA), Algeria, Iraq.
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 22 February 2021 11: 19
            -4
            32 Chinese UAVs in Egypt are massive? And how many of them does Iran have ?, Britain, the Saudis?
            1. Jacket in stock
              Jacket in stock 22 February 2021 12: 00
              +5
              Quote: Herman 4223
              And how many of them does Iran have ?, Britain, the Saudis?

              Yes, like bae, as many see fit.
              Moreover, you started here about years, and not about things.
              Therefore, it would be correct to ask when Iran made such UAVs.
              And the answer is several years earlier than Russia. Those. we are years behind.
              And everyone knows about this for a long time, well, except for you, probably.
              1. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 22 February 2021 15: 04
                -1
                I started not about the year, but about this moment in time. If five years ago there was a lag behind the advanced countries, now it is only in quantity. And in the near future it will be liquidated.
            2. donavi49
              donavi49 22 February 2021 12: 06
              -1
              32 Chinese in Egypt, which is 10 times more than in Russia. Quite massively and already available.
              In Iran, they are produced by several families - Shahid 129, Mohajir6, Ababil3 / 4. Plus, the IRGC gets its UAVs, the army gets its own. This is how the acceptance last year for the IRGC looks like:
              Reconnaissance and shock Mohajer-6 (15), reconnaissance and reconnaissance-shock versions of Ababil-3 (13), kamikaze drones / targets Ababil-2, reconnaissance Yassir, etc.


              Ababil carries 2 Almaz missiles (large Mohazhir and Shahid 129 - 4 and other variants of the combat load).



              They have shock UAVs over 100.

              Britain has 10 Reapers, 50 Thales.
              The Saudis have South African Sekel 400 drones (2 light bombs / missiles) in unclear quantities and about 50 WingLongs, judging by the fact that they are buying 30 + 25 new optical stations.
              1. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 22 February 2021 15: 10
                -3
                10 MQ9 in Britain is powerful.
                But 54 tales are still in production.
                And Egypt has not yet received all the Chinese drones. This is an order for 32 pieces.
                This year, 4 sets of Orions and one Alytus for military trials should arrive. So we are quite a leader.
          2. Quadro
            Quadro 22 February 2021 14: 46
            0
            Quote: donavi49
            USA (battle-tested)
            China
            Saudis (battle tested)
            UAE (battle tested)
            Turkey (battle tested)
            Israel (battle tested)
            Britain
            Egypt (battle tested)
            Iran (battle tested)

            This is who are massively. And a bunch of others who have a few (but more Orions), for example Nigeria, Qatar, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh (3x2 WingLongs 2 bought at 18), Libya (both PNS and LNA), Algeria, Iraq.

            And more than half of the UAVs are molded from foreign components. Bayraktar is essentially not Turkish at all, it was driven by Canadian, something Austrian, something amerskoy and French. There are only Turkish airframe and landing gear. And so for most of the countries on the list. You don't need to buy someone else's and make a lot of mind out of it. In fact, only China and the United States are making their own UAVs in full.
      2. D16
        D16 22 February 2021 11: 52
        0
        3 pieces were handed over to experimental at Rotax 912

        The Ministry of Defense signed an acceptance certificate for heavy UAVs consisting of three vehicles. What kind of engines are they on?

        Our four engines that we shipped in 2019. The characteristics of the delivered engines are available in the closed information feed Mil.Press Key (access only for the RF Ministry of Defense). (С)
        https://военное.рф/2020/Бпла8/
        I do not think that the developers would call Rotax "their" lol
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 23 February 2021 09: 19
          +3
          You wrote it like this is a secret neutron-active engine. This is suddenly also Rotax (910-914) - only in reverse engineering and refinement for the possibility of production at a Russian enterprise and subcontractors. The Chinese version in general. However, this is a real breakthrough decision and who issued such a topic is worthy of state awards and prizes from Putin's hands.

          The problem is that they have been suffering with him for 8 years. And they want to hand over the state at 21-22. But so far there are serious problems with the engine and they are being finalized - this is the head of the enterprise, if anything. And then after strengthening from CIAM and full involvement of the Itlan center (Rybinsk).

          - Continuing to move upward in increasing the dimension of the UAV, let's move on to the MALE-class. How did the engine turn out APD-115T for the Orion UAV? What can you tell about it?
          The base of the APD-115T for the Orion UAV is an imported analogue, modified by domestic turbocharging units and an engine management system.

          As part of preliminary tests, we worked out the initial resource before the first repair (150 hours with a factor of 1,2) on three engines and revealed a number of defects that, before the engines were presented for state bench tests need to be eliminated.

          The first engine was made on the basis of a foreign aircraft internal combustion engine with a capacity of 100 hp. By itself, this is a good engine with a decent resource. But according to the terms of reference, it is not suitable for our tasks. First of all, because of the element base (sensors, actuators, connectors) used on the engine.

          When we were just connected to work, at CIAM he stood at the stand with the turbine already installed, but did not give the required parameters. Engine control unit (ECU) made in the USA did not allow the engine to operate in turbocharging mode: the control system did not understand that there was an increased air consumption, and got up to self-locking... The adjustment tables were closed.

          When the bench tests of the KO-2 variant began, problems with sensors, actuators, ignition coils, electrical wiring, including connectors began to appear.

          The main problem was the transition to 27V power supply. The motor was originally designed for a nominal voltage of 12V, which is unacceptable according to our regulatory framework.

          And so, after about 50 hours of engine operation in bench conditions, deficiencies begin to appear. Of the most critical, piston rings sink, the piston edge burns, and so on.

          well, etc.
          1. D16
            D16 23 February 2021 10: 33
            +2
            I read this article, there is no point in quoting the sheets from it. No one from Austria can stop the serial production of Orion by whatever method Rotax is copied and adjusted to our requirements. There is no point in reinventing the wheel. The Chinese do not worry about this at all. So it is not Rotax that is on the Orions, but the APD-110/120.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 23 February 2021 10: 51
              +1
              no one from Austria can stop


              The problem of import substitution of Rotax (and any other free-selling engine, with fifty exporting countries and many hundreds of private customer companies) is somewhat overestimated. No, you have to make your own engine. These are new perspectives, exports, MA, development, etc.

              But in general, even now you can buy as many Rotaxes and repair kits as Orions will not be released by 30. Yes, there will be problems with export, with certification of problems, with assessment of TO problems. I’m already silent about all sorts of cunning schemes - if Iranians buy more than a hundred Rotax 12/14 annually through illegal routes, they tried to cover it up under Trump (it didn’t work).
              1. D16
                D16 23 February 2021 11: 57
                -1
                Neither sell nor show off at an exhibition. They will check the very first person lost in Syria who bought the engine, and there is Vasya Pupkin, not the Moscow Region. They will stop selling to civilians. Is it necessary? I'm not talking about warranty service.
                I am already silent about all sorts of cunning schemes

                Iran is already up to its ears in sanctions, so they have nothing to lose, and we have normal relations with Austria. Why substitute them for a showdown with amers? If I were the Austrians, I myself would have supported the development of the APD, provided that it would not be moved to the civilian market. smile
  11. Petio
    Petio 22 February 2021 10: 18
    0
    Rocket-Hermes-A and one of the KAB-50 bombs with laser or GLONASS guidance, as they were shown and fly. And another bomb can OFAB-100-120
  12. 113262a
    113262a 22 February 2021 10: 26
    +7
    We need a conveyor assembly of this good. And run in not in Syria, but in the Donbass! The adversaries are flying with might and main! At least they patrol along the Donets to the very border with the Russian Federation. The height is large, sometimes even an inversion trace is visible!
    1. Ulysses
      Ulysses 22 February 2021 18: 54
      0
      I am more than sure that they are already being tested in Donbass.
      Not Syria alone ...
      1. 113262a
        113262a 22 February 2021 21: 41
        +1
        We would have noticed such a barn!)))
  13. Prax1
    Prax1 22 February 2021 10: 34
    -9
    One thing saddens is the quality of the picture. Look at bayraktar and ours. We are lagging behind in optics
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 22 February 2021 10: 46
      -2
      Quote: Prax1
      One thing saddens is the quality of the picture. Look at bayraktar and ours. We are lagging behind in optics

      Here they write that the optics, or rather the optoelectronic complex, is not ours. Purchased. So we are not to blame.
      But what really saddens is that it means that we don't even have that.
      1. Prax1
        Prax1 22 February 2021 10: 55
        -6
        It's scary to imagine what we have there then. Eh, we would have French technology.
        1. VORON538
          VORON538 22 February 2021 13: 29
          -1
          Liberals are in your blood, to look into the mouth of the West. This is from the time of the tsars. What can you do yourself, except to beg and sell your Motherland?
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 February 2021 12: 05
        +2
        Surely SHVABE is engaged in a similar domestic complex.
      3. D16
        D16 23 February 2021 10: 42
        0
        Here they write that the optics, or rather the optoelectronic complex, is not ours.

        Is not a fact. He writes that the motor is Rotax on it, but it is not.
    2. D16
      D16 22 February 2021 10: 59
      -5
      One thing saddens is the quality of the picture.

      IMHO It's about the price. What's the point of putting an expensive optical station on a generally disposable drone?
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 22 February 2021 11: 28
      0
      Quote: Prax1
      One thing saddens is the quality of the picture. Look at bayraktar and ours. We are lagging behind in optics

      Enough to strike. Orion was not created to shoot videos and upload them to YouTube. Well, for intelligence, you can hang something more powerful on it
    4. Quadro
      Quadro 22 February 2021 14: 49
      0
      Quote: Prax1
      One thing saddens is the quality of the picture. Look at bayraktar and ours. We are lagging behind in optics

      Troll, do you know that the bayraktar has all the filling is not Turkish? The optics there seem to be Austrian or Amerskaya, I don't remember exactly.
      1. oprovergatel
        oprovergatel 25 February 2021 14: 17
        0
        Canadian. Maple Beavers proudly announced that they were stopping the supply of their OLS to Turetchina when the "Standard Beavers" nightmarized the Armenians in Karabakh.
  14. Wolf
    Wolf 22 February 2021 13: 36
    0
    A PROBLEM WITH UAV IN RUSSIA? Does she eat or not?
    The main problem with UAVs and small civil aviation of Russia ENGINEERS !!!
    And this is just an ORGANIZATION PROBLEM, there is no technological problem and no problem with electronics !!!
    The country that launches the orbital station, the most modern aircraft engines CANNOT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE MATERIAL FOR MANUFACTURE OF ADVANCED PISTON ENGINES !!!
    ALSO MOST WITH ELECTRONICS !!! What processor is needed for a UAV? SIMPLE, even the processors on the new generation smartphones surpass the UAV NEED FOR A PROCESSOR POSSIBILITY BY A LOT! Look at what processor on F22 for an example, and how many I know there is ELBRUS microprocessors in which the power exceeds the demand of the BLP by many.
    Sometimes I have a question that someone with the intention did not want to make NORMALLY ENGINE BUILDING IN RUSSIA !!!
    This problem is solved PLANOVO AND FROM THE TOP OF THE STATE!
    But no one was involved in this, and this is also the code of passenger cars. For example, Germany projects for engines of passenger cars Audi Volkswagen makes in 1 center, and hundreds of engines! In Russia, even Lada uses an outdated FRENCH gasoline engine. GAZ makes its own engine, etc. Is the alternator for LADE imported by Valeo Franzuski? That the Oligarchim is not profitable to invest in a factory of modern ALTERNATORS with a quantity of 500.000 pieces per year ???
    That the government cannot start managing a project for the production of alternators with better characteristics than Valeo and organize a plan where private owners can participate in financing and profit from this production?
    The empty finance and the bank will explain that it is not profitable to invest in engine building in a country that lets thousands of machines and that the export potential of good submarines is huge today?
    So that there would be a lot of submarines in Russia and the difference is that a full-fledged, independent, and with the participation of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, an engineering structure for piston engine building is needed. If it does not exist, there will be problems with unmanned vehicles in Russia.
    It is necessary to involve specialists in engine building, electronics engineers, metrologists. To tie a Russian electronic control unit to it !!!
    Most importantly, in this case, the development of new engines would be even cheaper and faster, because it would be possible to legitimately use the scientific and technical groundwork of completed projects.
    This structure could become a key link in the development of engines not only for military UAVs, but also for civil light aviation, for the Ministry of Emergencies and other structures.
    The engines for promising Russian UAVs of the helicopter type are also under threat.
    This requires technological time and labor.
    ELECTRONICS IS NOT A PROBLEM AS A HIGH QUALITY MATERIAL FOR PRODUCTION, A PROBLEM OF AN EXTREMELY ORGANIZATION !!!
    1. 123456789
      123456789 22 February 2021 15: 45
      -1
      "Comrade Stalin is not a traitor, Comrade Stalin is not a traitor, Comrade Stalin is an honest man, his whole mistake is that he trusted the cavalrymen too much, Comrade Stalin will do everything in his power to correct the situation."
      laughing
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 February 2021 21: 43
        0
        And "Comrade Stalin there was a monstrous mistake" The cavalrymen were dispersed to the walls and then into the boxes - but no complaints were received from any of them.
  15. Ulysses
    Ulysses 22 February 2021 18: 58
    +1
    Good news.
    More of these birds.
    And do not stop, the technique is highly demanded, judging by the latest events.
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    1. Kart
      Kart 25 February 2021 16: 32
      0
      You write about your Svidomo?
      Well, we even sympathize. This is not the case in Russia.