A video of the use of the Russian attack drone "Orion" in Syria appeared on the web

A video of the use of the Russian medium-altitude strike has appeared on the Web drone the long duration of the Orion flight during tests in Syria. The plot from the video of the Ministry of Defense was released on the TV channel "Russia 1".

As follows from the video, one of the Orion drones undergoing tests made a total of 38 sorties, of which 17 with strikes on positions and targets of militants, 20 for reconnaissance and one "for other purposes."

On the drone body, according to military tradition aviation, the stars are plotted, according to the number of departures. Each star additionally contains one letter, where "P" - reconnaissance flight, "B" - combat with strikes and "P" - search and highlighting targets (presumably).

Recall that in August last year, the Russian military department signed a contract for serial production and delivery of the Orion long-duration unmanned aerial vehicle. The Ministry of Defense received the first batch of three Orion drones for experimental military operation in April 2020. The military conducted tests of the drone, including in Syria, after which some changes were made to the design.

"Orion" was created by the company "Kronstadt" in the framework of the ROC "Inohodets" under a contract with the Ministry of Defense. The UAV is able to stay in the air with a maximum load of up to 24 hours. The flight altitude is 7,5 thousand meters. Maximum payload drone is 450 kg, it is capable of carrying four missiles on board.

Comments

[Victor_B]

Well, obviously from the angle of shooting, it is clear that not all shots of the use of weapons are from him. (You can just see that the rocket arrives from the other side)
Only in this case it does not matter who / what launched the rocket.
The device flies, is engaged in reconnaissance and guidance successfully, well, and destroys targets on its own too.

[Prisoner]

Well, okay. However, judging by the stars on the fuselage, there was a sufficient number of shots in the storeroom. They will show ... then.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Captive

Well, okay. However, judging by the stars on the fuselage, there was a sufficient number of shots in the storeroom. They will show ... then.

while 38

Explanation of letter symbols in the text of the article

[Slug_BDMP]

And what is the difference between "reconnaissance" and "search for targets"?

[Dart2027]

Most likely, in the first case, we are talking about reconnaissance, as a process of obtaining information, and in the second, about searching and aiming at a target.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Slug_BDMP

what is the difference between "reconnaissance" and "search for targets"?

Perhaps it is more correct to decipher "P" not as "search" but as "illumination" of the target of the LCC (Laser Target Pointer) ...

[Old tanker]

There is a start. Now determine the place in the state of the videoconferencing and establish mass production. And then intense combat training and real application in Syria.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Old Tankman

further intense combat training and real application in Syria

Only ?

[Old tanker]

What else do you offer besides this?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Old Tanker

What else do you offer besides this?

I agree with a fellow countryman from the LPR:

Quote: 113262

We need a conveyor assembly of this good. And run in not in Syria, but in the Donbass! The adversaries are flying with might and main! At least they patrol along the Donets to the very border with the Russian Federation. The height is large, sometimes even an inversion trace is visible!

We are talking about the RQ-4 Global Hawk, which regularly makes reconnaissance flights along the border of the Russian Federation and the front line, without entering the airspace of the Russian Federation, DPR and LPR.

And also we mean the presence of a certain number of Turkish-made shock UAVs and Polish-made kamikaze drones, and obviously already Ukrop models ...

[Old tanker]

Well, if the Orions are purchased by South Ossetia or Abkhazia and transferred to Donbass, then they may appear there too. But there will be no official deliveries from Russia to the LPNR. You perfectly understand this.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Old Tankman

Well, if the Orions are purchased by South Ossetia or Abkhazia and transferred to Donbass, then they may appear there too. But there will be no official deliveries from Russia to the LPNR. You perfectly understand this.

Ну ...
Whether Abkhazia, or South Ossetia or "Voentorg" with "North Wind" - it doesn't matter




BTR-82AM in the village of Stepanovka, Shakhtyorsky district, DPR, 28.08.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX

[Old tanker]

Well, you would have posted a photo of the T-72B3. Including those knocked out. But "they are not there."

[Insurgent]

Quote: Old Tankman

Well, you would have posted a photo of the T-72B3. Including those knocked out. But "they are not there."

What for ? And this is enough to express my position and illustrate "possibilities of the impossible"

[Drugov]

That's right, you need to think faster and more versatile.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Victor_B

The device flies, is engaged in reconnaissance and guidance successfully, well, and destroys targets on its own too.

Flies, looks, hits. Here are the goodies ... And more of them for the troops.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Flies, looks, hits. Here are the goodies ... And more of them for the troops.

I join your thought, the all seeing eye and the punishing hand ... Ooh

[Destiny]

The Russian military department has signed a contract for the serial production and delivery of the Orion long-duration unmanned system.

Here's the good news, so we can.

[Bradley]

In the video, the sound must be quieter, otherwise you can go deaf.

[Thrifty]

Bradley - humor rated five pluses +++++++++++++ !!!!

[Stas157]

Quote: Bradley

In the video, the sound must be quieter, otherwise you can go deaf.

Was there a sound there?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Of the benefits:
First confirmed use of a Russian strike UAV
2 types of guided bombs and 1 guided missile
Of the minuses:
Optics are frankly weak
Journalistic pitch, stars and letters are clearly drawn specifically for reporting

[sabakina]

And once the LOMO optics were considered cool.

[Observer2014]

Quote: sabakina

And once the LOMO optics were considered cool.

Under the USSR. Due to lack of access to Western manufacturers. Somewhere in the closet there are "Zenith ET" and "Amateur-2. And on the shelf for many years digital" SONY " Throughout the socialist camp CMEA. Our tourists and sailors took our cameras for exchange or sale abroad.

[sabakina]

Observer 2014, from your post I still did not understand, do you praise the optics of the USSR or haite?

[Observer2014]

From a nostalgic point of view, praise. I was engaged in photography, and then it was a whole art. Well, before you take a picture, set the distance on the lens. Aperture. Choose a good angle. Then show it. Print your photo. And now!? Every gopher is an agronomist ...

[sabakina]

Observer 2014, I myself was engaged in photography at school, and you know, on Smena 8M my photos turned out better than on Zenit-ET. And night shooting with flash is generally a song!

[Observer2014]

Quote: sabakina

Observer 2014, I myself was engaged in photography at school, and you know, on Smena 8M my photos turned out better than on Zenit-ET. And night shooting with flash is generally a song!

I immediately printed that it was a whole art. Eight moons in the night photo "Amateur 2" Without a flash. Almost five hours in the cold at night near the recreation center was shooting in January. And at that time I did not even take "Smena" in my hands. I was engaged in photo hunting "Zenith ET" with a telephoto lens. Owl took pictures of different people there. Nature. Hmm, there was a time. I definitely didn’t sit at home in Tik-Tok.

[Humpty]

Quote: sabakina

On Smena 8M, my photos turned out better than on Zenit-ET.

Smena 8M had an important property - it did not fail in the cold.

[Flooding]

Zenit-ET is lying around idle.
Once every couple of years, I remember him and roll my lip: but it would be nice.
It doesn't matter if the optics are better or worse.
The process is important.

[igor67]

Quote: Flood

Zenit-ET is lying around idle.
Once every couple of years, I remember him and roll my lip: but it would be nice.
It doesn't matter if the optics are better or worse.
The process is important.

I also have Zenit ET, they came with different lenses, Helios and Industar

[Vadim Ananyin]

Will you sell it?

[Thrifty]

Fiery cat - you would not be yourself if you did not spit in the direction of Russian weapons! Where did the drovish about "weak optics" come from? Did our pilots also draw stars during the war on fighters for the media? ??

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Thrifty

Where did the drovish about "weak optics" come from? Did our pilots also draw stars during the war on fighters for the media? ??

Weak optics, or rather the matrix and / or the processor can be seen in the picture, it stupidly fades.
And stars on fighters were drawn not for sorties, but for downed fascists.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Optics are frankly weak

Yes, the optics are just quite themselves, they zoom in as it should and no distortions are visible.
But the electronics - the matrix and the processor, yes, they cannot cope.

[Thrifty]

The jacket is in stock - that's where I agree with you, our microelectronics is lagging behind, we have learned how to make good mechanics long ago, but we have trouble with the "military" processors.

[Vadim Ananyin]

began to lag behind after 90 YY

[Pechkin]

OgnennyiKotik, I'm wondering if you guessed to delete your comment under another article or a moderator?

[OgnennyiKotik]

About the next nonsense about those who have no analogues in the world? When do analogs fly decades before? And why do you need to follow the reaction of "foreign experts"?
No, not me, I wanted to add emoji, it seems they are prohibited here.

[donavi49]

The optics there are not bad - Argos 2 from South Africa, which is assembled from the kit at the NPK SPP into the case and connected. Rather, handling the problem.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: donavi49

Rather, handling the problem.

I do not argue, naturally I meant the whole complex of the optoelectronic system, and not separately "optics".

[Black Colonel]

The optics may not be weak. Image processing can be weak.

[Abdallah]

I saw such films twenty years ago, how Israel dalbil Babakhov Hezbollah and Hamas, not there, not in Syria, there is no air defense for CHECKING, and you can stupidly throw bombs on the babakhs from the CORNER, Karabakh is a true indicator of the power of the UAVs of TURKEY AND KAMIKADZE ISRAEL WHERE ALL AIR DEFENSE IS AROUND THERE IS POSSIBLE TO DRAW STARS ON THE FUSELAGE

[PN]

The comment is certainly interesting, but! You still need to be able to use air defense equipment, the same base in Khmeimi is an example of this. Although there is echeloned and stuffed air defense, as an example to foreign customers ...

[Cron]

The comment is certainly interesting, but! You still need to be able to use air defense equipment, the same base in Khmeimi is an example of this. Although there is echeloned and stuffed air defense, as an example to foreign customers ...

Comment as from some gadyushnik channel on YouTube, what's interesting about it? Just right for a census of the gifted on Topwar

[Bi-mac]

You had!"?)))

[Thrifty]

In Syria, following the example of Azerbaijan, they need at least five or six pieces for continuous round-the-clock work on the militants. First, destroy equipment and warehouses, then knock out manpower!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

In Syria, following the example of Azerbaijan, they need at least five or six pieces for continuous round-the-clock work on the militants. First, destroy equipment and warehouses, then knock out manpower!

“Destroy” and “knock out” no problems with this. The problem with detecting these objects. Scouts are needed to see 5 meters below the ground and distinguish the barmaley from the collective farmer.

[Svetlana]

I wonder where the management came from. From Russia or from Khmeimim?

[Pechkin]

Not from Russia, radius of application 250 km. with UAV-repeater 300 km.

[Svetlana]

The control radius is not necessarily equal to the combat range, I think. The first is determined by the radio control system, the second by the energy intensity of the engines.
This is so, thinking out loud.

Update
Although the range is determined by the shorter component. What is more briefly unknown. Perhaps a radio.

[Pechkin]

It is control, therefore, with a repeater, the range is increased by 50 km. And he can stay in the air for almost a day. Cruising speed is 120 km / h.

[Svetlana]

Understood thanks.

[Dart2027]

Here is a video with normal sound

[Konnick]

Quote: PN

The comment is certainly interesting, but! You still need to be able to use air defense equipment, the same base in Khmeimi is an example of this. Although there is echeloned and stuffed air defense, as an example to foreign customers ...

Well, what an example, exactly stuffed, if every important object is covered with so many different air defense systems, no money will be enough for air defense in this format.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Konnick

if each important object is covered with so many different air defense systems, no money will be enough for air defense in this format.

Well, yes.
Khmeimim sits stupidly in a deep defense and catches everything that has arrived.
On the good, it is necessary to carry out comprehensive measures to exclude the very possibility of something flying in (all these barmaley people need to be stupidly soaked on the ground), but there are objective circumstances - the Turkish troops cover the barmaley, and the war with Turkey is not included in the immediate plans. As with Israel, from which, although it does not fly directly to Khmeimim, it can fly very close.

[Herman 4223]

And how many screams there were about a year lag, a couple of months ago. They fly, conduct reconnaissance, bomb and direct.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Herman 4223

And how many screams there were about years behind

Are you saying there is no backlog?

[Herman 4223]

I don't know anything about this, and neither do you.

[donavi49]

Well, 3 pieces were delivered to the experimental one on Rotax 912, with the Argos2 station from South Africa (this is about optics).
For others, this is a consumable battlefield UAV with 100+ units in the army.

[Herman 4223]

Others have it? Enough fingers on the hand to count such countries, then for the battlefield we have a company of UAVs as part of artillery battalions. Not all countries can boast of this either.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Herman 4223

Others have it? Enough fingers on the hand to count such countries, then for the battlefield we have a company of UAVs as part of the artillery battalions

It’s not funny for yourself?
For others, it is for our direct opponents - the United States, Turkey, Israel ...
kakby friends - neighbors - China, Iran ...
I don't care about the rest, they are not interesting to me.
And the UAV company is ORLAN-10, old, small and, as a beast, not quite ours.
And yes, other UAVs of this class, like our new Orion, really appeared years ago.

[donavi49]

USA (battle-tested)
China
Saudis (battle tested)
UAE (battle tested)
Turkey (battle tested)
Israel (battle tested)
Britain
Egypt (battle tested)
Iran (battle tested)

This is who are massively. And a bunch of others who have a few (but more Orions), for example Nigeria, Qatar, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh (3x2 WingLongs 2 bought at 18), Libya (both PNS and LNA), Algeria, Iraq.

[Herman 4223]

32 Chinese UAVs in Egypt are massive? And how many of them does Iran have ?, Britain, the Saudis?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Herman 4223

And how many of them does Iran have ?, Britain, the Saudis?

Yes, like bae, as many see fit.
Moreover, you started here about years, and not about things.
Therefore, it would be correct to ask when Iran made such UAVs.
And the answer is several years earlier than Russia. Those. we are years behind.
And everyone knows about this for a long time, well, except for you, probably.

[Herman 4223]

I started not about the year, but about this moment in time. If five years ago there was a lag behind the advanced countries, now it is only in quantity. And in the near future it will be liquidated.

[donavi49]

32 Chinese in Egypt, which is 10 times more than in Russia. Quite massively and already available.
In Iran, they are produced by several families - Shahid 129, Mohajir6, Ababil3 / 4. Plus, the IRGC gets its UAVs, the army gets its own. This is how the acceptance last year for the IRGC looks like:
Reconnaissance and shock Mohajer-6 (15), reconnaissance and reconnaissance-shock versions of Ababil-3 (13), kamikaze drones / targets Ababil-2, reconnaissance Yassir, etc.

Ababil carries 2 Almaz missiles (large Mohazhir and Shahid 129 - 4 and other variants of the combat load).

They have shock UAVs over 100.

Britain has 10 Reapers, 50 Thales.
The Saudis have South African Sekel 400 drones (2 light bombs / missiles) in unclear quantities and about 50 WingLongs, judging by the fact that they are buying 30 + 25 new optical stations.

[Herman 4223]

10 MQ9 in Britain is powerful.
But 54 tales are still in production.
And Egypt has not yet received all the Chinese drones. This is an order for 32 pieces.
This year, 4 sets of Orions and one Alytus for military trials should arrive. So we are quite a leader.

[Quadro]

Quote: donavi49

USA (battle-tested)
China
Saudis (battle tested)
UAE (battle tested)
Turkey (battle tested)
Israel (battle tested)
Britain
Egypt (battle tested)
Iran (battle tested)

This is who are massively. And a bunch of others who have a few (but more Orions), for example Nigeria, Qatar, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh (3x2 WingLongs 2 bought at 18), Libya (both PNS and LNA), Algeria, Iraq.

And more than half of the UAVs are molded from foreign components. Bayraktar is essentially not Turkish at all, it was driven by Canadian, something Austrian, something amerskoy and French. There are only Turkish airframe and landing gear. And so for most of the countries on the list. You don't need to buy someone else's and make a lot of mind out of it. In fact, only China and the United States are making their own UAVs in full.

[D16]

3 pieces were handed over to experimental at Rotax 912

The Ministry of Defense signed an acceptance certificate for heavy UAVs consisting of three vehicles. What kind of engines are they on?

Our four engines that we shipped in 2019. The characteristics of the delivered engines are available in the closed information feed Mil.Press Key (access only for the RF Ministry of Defense). (С)
https://военное.рф/2020/Бпла8/
I do not think that the developers would call Rotax "their"

[donavi49]

You wrote it like this is a secret neutron-active engine. This is suddenly also Rotax (910-914) - only in reverse engineering and refinement for the possibility of production at a Russian enterprise and subcontractors. The Chinese version in general. However, this is a real breakthrough decision and who issued such a topic is worthy of state awards and prizes from Putin's hands.

The problem is that they have been suffering with him for 8 years. And they want to hand over the state at 21-22. But so far there are serious problems with the engine and they are being finalized - this is the head of the enterprise, if anything. And then after strengthening from CIAM and full involvement of the Itlan center (Rybinsk).

- Continuing to move upward in increasing the dimension of the UAV, let's move on to the MALE-class. How did the engine turn out APD-115T for the Orion UAV? What can you tell about it?
— The base of the APD-115T for the Orion UAV is an imported analogue, modified by domestic turbocharging units and an engine management system.

As part of preliminary tests, we worked out the initial resource before the first repair (150 hours with a factor of 1,2) on three engines and revealed a number of defects that, before the engines were presented for state bench tests need to be eliminated.

The first engine was made on the basis of a foreign aircraft internal combustion engine with a capacity of 100 hp. By itself, this is a good engine with a decent resource. But according to the terms of reference, it is not suitable for our tasks. First of all, because of the element base (sensors, actuators, connectors) used on the engine.

When we were just connected to work, at CIAM he stood at the stand with the turbine already installed, but did not give the required parameters. Engine control unit (ECU) made in the USA did not allow the engine to operate in turbocharging mode: the control system did not understand that there was an increased air consumption, and got up to self-locking... The adjustment tables were closed.

When the bench tests of the KO-2 variant began, problems with sensors, actuators, ignition coils, electrical wiring, including connectors began to appear.

The main problem was the transition to 27V power supply. The motor was originally designed for a nominal voltage of 12V, which is unacceptable according to our regulatory framework.

And so, after about 50 hours of engine operation in bench conditions, deficiencies begin to appear. Of the most critical, piston rings sink, the piston edge burns, and so on.

well, etc.

[D16]

I read this article, there is no point in quoting the sheets from it. No one from Austria can stop the serial production of Orion by whatever method Rotax is copied and adjusted to our requirements. There is no point in reinventing the wheel. The Chinese do not worry about this at all. So it is not Rotax that is on the Orions, but the APD-110/120.

[donavi49]

no one from Austria can stop

The problem of import substitution of Rotax (and any other free-selling engine, with fifty exporting countries and many hundreds of private customer companies) is somewhat overestimated. No, you have to make your own engine. These are new perspectives, exports, MA, development, etc.

But in general, even now you can buy as many Rotaxes and repair kits as Orions will not be released by 30. Yes, there will be problems with export, with certification of problems, with assessment of TO problems. I’m already silent about all sorts of cunning schemes - if Iranians buy more than a hundred Rotax 12/14 annually through illegal routes, they tried to cover it up under Trump (it didn’t work).

[D16]

Neither sell nor show off at an exhibition. They will check the very first person lost in Syria who bought the engine, and there is Vasya Pupkin, not the Moscow Region. They will stop selling to civilians. Is it necessary? I'm not talking about warranty service.

I am already silent about all sorts of cunning schemes

Iran is already up to its ears in sanctions, so they have nothing to lose, and we have normal relations with Austria. Why substitute them for a showdown with amers? If I were the Austrians, I myself would have supported the development of the APD, provided that it would not be moved to the civilian market.

[Petio]

Rocket-Hermes-A and one of the KAB-50 bombs with laser or GLONASS guidance, as they were shown and fly. And another bomb can OFAB-100-120

[113262a]

We need a conveyor assembly of this good. And run in not in Syria, but in the Donbass! The adversaries are flying with might and main! At least they patrol along the Donets to the very border with the Russian Federation. The height is large, sometimes even an inversion trace is visible!

[Ulysses]

I am more than sure that they are already being tested in Donbass.
Not Syria alone ...

[113262a]

We would have noticed such a barn!)))

[Prax1]

One thing saddens is the quality of the picture. Look at bayraktar and ours. We are lagging behind in optics

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Prax1

One thing saddens is the quality of the picture. Look at bayraktar and ours. We are lagging behind in optics

Here they write that the optics, or rather the optoelectronic complex, is not ours. Purchased. So we are not to blame.
But what really saddens is that it means that we don't even have that.

[Prax1]

It's scary to imagine what we have there then. Eh, we would have French technology.

[VORON538]

Liberals are in your blood, to look into the mouth of the West. This is from the time of the tsars. What can you do yourself, except to beg and sell your Motherland?

[Vadim237]

Surely SHVABE is engaged in a similar domestic complex.

[D16]

Here they write that the optics, or rather the optoelectronic complex, is not ours.

Is not a fact. He writes that the motor is Rotax on it, but it is not.

[D16]

One thing saddens is the quality of the picture.

IMHO It's about the price. What's the point of putting an expensive optical station on a generally disposable drone?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Prax1

One thing saddens is the quality of the picture. Look at bayraktar and ours. We are lagging behind in optics

Enough to strike. Orion was not created to shoot videos and upload them to YouTube. Well, for intelligence, you can hang something more powerful on it

[Quadro]

Quote: Prax1

One thing saddens is the quality of the picture. Look at bayraktar and ours. We are lagging behind in optics

Troll, do you know that the bayraktar has all the filling is not Turkish? The optics there seem to be Austrian or Amerskaya, I don't remember exactly.

[provergatel]

Canadian. Maple Beavers proudly announced that they were stopping the supply of their OLS to Turetchina when the "Standard Beavers" nightmarized the Armenians in Karabakh.

[Wolf]

A PROBLEM WITH UAV IN RUSSIA? Does she eat or not?
The main problem with UAVs and small civil aviation of Russia ENGINEERS !!!
And this is just an ORGANIZATION PROBLEM, there is no technological problem and no problem with electronics !!!
The country that launches the orbital station, the most modern aircraft engines CANNOT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE MATERIAL FOR MANUFACTURE OF ADVANCED PISTON ENGINES !!!
ALSO MOST WITH ELECTRONICS !!! What processor is needed for a UAV? SIMPLE, even the processors on the new generation smartphones surpass the UAV NEED FOR A PROCESSOR POSSIBILITY BY A LOT! Look at what processor on F22 for an example, and how many I know there is ELBRUS microprocessors in which the power exceeds the demand of the BLP by many.
Sometimes I have a question that someone with the intention did not want to make NORMALLY ENGINE BUILDING IN RUSSIA !!!
This problem is solved PLANOVO AND FROM THE TOP OF THE STATE!
But no one was involved in this, and this is also the code of passenger cars. For example, Germany projects for engines of passenger cars Audi Volkswagen makes in 1 center, and hundreds of engines! In Russia, even Lada uses an outdated FRENCH gasoline engine. GAZ makes its own engine, etc. Is the alternator for LADE imported by Valeo Franzuski? That the Oligarchim is not profitable to invest in a factory of modern ALTERNATORS with a quantity of 500.000 pieces per year ???
That the government cannot start managing a project for the production of alternators with better characteristics than Valeo and organize a plan where private owners can participate in financing and profit from this production?
The empty finance and the bank will explain that it is not profitable to invest in engine building in a country that lets thousands of machines and that the export potential of good submarines is huge today?
So that there would be a lot of submarines in Russia and the difference is that a full-fledged, independent, and with the participation of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, an engineering structure for piston engine building is needed. If it does not exist, there will be problems with unmanned vehicles in Russia.
It is necessary to involve specialists in engine building, electronics engineers, metrologists. To tie a Russian electronic control unit to it !!!
Most importantly, in this case, the development of new engines would be even cheaper and faster, because it would be possible to legitimately use the scientific and technical groundwork of completed projects.
This structure could become a key link in the development of engines not only for military UAVs, but also for civil light aviation, for the Ministry of Emergencies and other structures.
The engines for promising Russian UAVs of the helicopter type are also under threat.
This requires technological time and labor.
ELECTRONICS IS NOT A PROBLEM AS A HIGH QUALITY MATERIAL FOR PRODUCTION, A PROBLEM OF AN EXTREMELY ORGANIZATION !!!

[123456789]

"Comrade Stalin is not a traitor, Comrade Stalin is not a traitor, Comrade Stalin is an honest man, his whole mistake is that he trusted the cavalrymen too much, Comrade Stalin will do everything in his power to correct the situation."

[Vadim237]

And "Comrade Stalin there was a monstrous mistake" The cavalrymen were dispersed to the walls and then into the boxes - but no complaints were received from any of them.

[Ulysses]

Good news.
More of these birds.
And do not stop, the technique is highly demanded, judging by the latest events.

[Kart]

You write about your Svidomo?
Well, we even sympathize. This is not the case in Russia.