Cartridges for the Wehrmacht: production in occupied countries

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There are already few military photographs, and even fewer factories and plants in the occupied countries. Therefore, German photographs were used for illustration.

When discussing my articles about various finds among German trophy documents, the topic often arises: "All of Europe worked for Hitler." As it arises, so, however, and disappears, since the followers of Comrade. Episheva can say little in detail about how exactly all of Europe worked for Germany, what it produced, and in general how the economy of Europe was structured during wartime.

Meanwhile, the details are quite interesting. In the fund of the Reich Ministry of Economics in the RGVA there is a case dedicated to the placement of German orders in occupied countries from 1941 to 1943. It's a delicate matter, literally a few sheets in it. But these are reference tables that the ministry compiled for a general overview of the placement and execution of German orders. Data for each country was disaggregated by product type: ammunition, weapons, cars, ships, aircraft, communications, optical instruments, clothing, industrial equipment and machinery, military equipment and consumer goods. From this table, one can judge what exactly was produced in each occupied country and in what volume.



All data are given in Reichsmarks. This, of course, is not very convenient, because, without knowing the price list, it is difficult to translate the volume of production in Reichsmarks into quantity. However, knowing the German punctuality, one must assume that somewhere in the archives, most likely in Germany, there are order documents with the corresponding quantitative data.

Weapons and ammunition were made by almost all occupied countries


I was most interested in information about the production of ammunition and weapons. I even made a separate statement for these categories of orders from all tables.

Without data on the range of orders, it is difficult to say what exactly was produced there. It can be assumed that these were the simplest and most popular types in production: rifles, machine guns, pistols, cartridges, grenades, mortar mines, shells for field artillery. Obviously, the production was carried out by arsenals and factories that had previously worked to supply the armies of the occupied countries.

Production data weapons and ammunition is best presented in the form of a table, in millions of Reichsmarks (according to: RGVA, f. 1458k, op. 3, d. 2166, pp. 1-4):


Military production in dynamics


As you can see, the Germans in the occupied countries ordered quite a lot of weapons and ammunition. This table in itself undermines the assurances available in foreign literature that the Germans did nothing but plunder the economies of the occupied countries. This was not entirely true. Along with robbery and exploitation, it was a very profitable business for a certain group of firms and their owners, especially in Western Europe, to fulfill German orders.

You can roughly estimate how much weapons and ammunition these countries produced. In 1942, the Mauser K98k rifle cost 60 Reichsmarks, and 1 pieces of 000 mm cartridges cost 7,92 Reichsmarks or 251,44 pfennigs apiece. Thus, in our conditional calculation, each million Reichsmark orders for weapons was equivalent to 25 rifles, and each million Reichsmarks orders for ammunition - 16 million cartridges. It turns out that we can assume that, for example, Holland in 667 supplied 4 thousand rifles and 1941 million cartridges, Denmark, for example, in 150 - 60 thousand rifles, Norway in the same 1941 - 166,6 thousand rifles and 1941 million rounds.

60 million rounds is ammunition for 500 thousand soldiers.

In 1941, weapons worth 76 million Reichsmarks were supplied from the occupied countries, which, according to our conditional calculation, is equivalent to 1 thousand rifles and ammunition for 266,6 million Reichsmarks or 116 million cartridges. This, I must say, is decent. For now, we will restrict ourselves to the moment when documents on a specific nomenclature of production and supplies are found.

The dynamics of production is also interesting. In 1941 and 1942, some countries tried hard and supplied more than they were ordered. For example, in 1941 Norway supplied both weapons and ammunition more than they received orders. Belgium and Northern France tried very hard (probably to a greater extent Belgium, which was a large arms manufacturer before the war). Arms deliveries significantly exceeded the volume of orders.

Cartridges for the Wehrmacht: production in occupied countries
If the Belgians went to the SS, then working for the Germans in military factories was not at all considered something reprehensible.

But in 1943, labor enthusiasm abruptly gave way to decline. Most countries stopped fulfilling German orders for weapons and ammunition in full. France, which in 1942 completed almost all orders, especially for ammunition, in 1943 made less than half of the ordered weapons and less than a quarter of the ammunition. Denmark and Holland did not fulfill ammunition orders at all. Even Norway has cut production. Of course, this can be explained by the lack of raw materials, materials and fuel, the intensified selection of labor to Germany. But still, I think that the political moments were in the first place here. After the defeat at Stalingrad at the end of 1942, the news of which spread throughout Europe through the efforts of the underground, industrialists in the occupied countries became thoughtful. Money, of course, doesn't smell. But if Germany stopped winning, then her end was not far off. The arms manufacturers understood better than others the alignment of forces in the world war and realized that Germany, having lost the initiative, would inevitably be crushed by a coalition of allies. If this is so, then they have nothing to try so that after the war they could say: we were forced, and we disrupted and slowed down war production as best we could.


1943 poster. The French were persuaded to work, intimidated by Bolshevism

Switzerland ended up on the list of arms and ammunition manufacturers for Germany in 1943 because it bought off Hitler and avoided occupation, and was in dire need of German coal.

As for the production of weapons and ammunition in Greece, it is still difficult to say what it was. Most likely, the Germans managed to create factories there and start production. Greece in 1943 supplied products for a whopping 730 million Reichsmarks. This was mainly shipbuilding. But I have not yet been able to find more accurate data on this.

In the General Government of Poland, all production at the beginning of 1940 passed into the hands of the Germans, and they tried to turn Polish factories into large arsenals. Poland in 1942-1943 was perhaps the largest producer of weapons and ammunition of all the occupied countries. True, this page is his stories Poles after the war diligently did not want to remember and got off with the most general mentions. This is understandable, since production could not do without the participation of Polish workers. Poland produced goods for Germany in 1941 for 278 million, in 1942 for 414 million, and in 1943 for 390 million Reichsmarks. In 1943, 26% of Polish production for German military orders came from ammunition.

So the situation with the fulfillment of German orders in the occupied countries was somewhat more complicated than it might seem at first glance. Yes, they produced a significant amount of products, tangible even on the scale of general German production. At the same time, the regime in different occupied countries was different, collaboration was both voluntary, based on profit, and forced (the involvement of the Greeks in military production was greatly facilitated by the severe famine that broke out in the country soon after the beginning of the occupation), and the attitude towards the Germans and work for them, as we can see, changed greatly under the influence of the situation on the fronts.
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  1. +11
    22 February 2021 05: 11
    And the descendants of those "producers" are now trying to prove that our ancestors were then "to blame for everything" ...
    And here is the interesting data collected by foreign journalists about that war,
    poll of the French, in different years with the question: "What country do you think made the greatest contribution to the defeat of Nazi Germany in 1945?"

    And here is a poll with the same question from residents of the United States and other European countries in 2015

    From left to right countries surveyed: USA, France, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Norway, UK. Blue - USA, green - USSR, orange - Great Britain, black - another country, gray - I don't know.
    1. +13
      22 February 2021 06: 36
      In this respect, France is more amusing. Infa came across that they lost more people in the SS divisions. than in the Resistance and "free France".
      These photographs were taken by the correspondent of the German magazine "Signal" André Zucca in Paris 1942-44. 63 years after the war, the selection became the exhibition "Parisians during the Occupation". She caused a huge scandal. The city hall of the French capital has banned its display in Paris. As a result, permission was obtained, but France saw this footage only once. The second - "democratic" France could no longer afford. The contrast between legend and reality was too striking ...


      Or you can neigh on the varalbom, like the French surrendered - there are a lot of photos, as the Germans did not even escort them. Or the surrender of the Germans in Holland. laid out here - it seems like already capitulating SS units in uniform. with weapons and insignia, they ride home on bikes. to Germany, the food warehouses are guarded. Who won whom - you won't immediately understand
      1. +3
        22 February 2021 06: 50
        As our guide, showing the sights of Paris, said, "the resistance of the French consisted in the refusal of the French woman, in intimacy and sticking pins into the sockets of the hotel rooms where the German officers lived"
        1. +7
          22 February 2021 06: 56

          French police ensure deportation of Jewish men from Paris

          Not a single German in the shot! What for?
          And in a couple of years - here they are all winners, and all such fighters against fascism. The form on them is still the same:
          1. +1
            22 February 2021 07: 12
            Of course! Why are the Germans in the frame? How will the leaders of the EU countries then appear on Red Square and at the parade? All Europe was the "hivi" of the Wehrmacht.
          2. +2
            22 February 2021 16: 15
            In the lower photo, they are already "fighting" the collaborators by shaving their heads, or rather, they are simply settling scores with the women who were "not given" to them at the time. laughing
            Here are a couple more photos of the patriotic impulses of the French public. laughing


            1. +4
              23 February 2021 21: 09
              who are you .... they fought passionately against "lying collaboration" ...
        2. +2
          22 February 2021 14: 31
          Maupassant also described the resistance of French women - the Germans were infected with syphilis. How they could and what they could.
        3. +5
          22 February 2021 16: 06
          As someone said about that time: "France first capitulates at the front, then in bed."



          1. +10
            22 February 2021 16: 14
            Amazing photos! Everything is quite logical:
            Army from de Golem to barges and to Africa.
            Police - guides for German military columns, (God forbid, they will get lost)
            French women - in bed with the Germans.
            And most importantly, do not forget to come to the signing of the act of Germany's surrender.
            Outcome: Paris-without destruction.
            The army is safe and sound.
            French women have maintained regularity in intimate relationships.
            France is the "winner of Nazism"!
            Everybody is good. Everyone is satisfied.)
            1. +9
              22 February 2021 16: 28
              The main thing is that the French women were constantly SATISFIED! And then the tough Texas guys came and the fun continued! laughing



      2. +7
        22 February 2021 08: 46
        More amusing is the obligation to kick the dead Epishev. Everything is different for Verkhotumbov.
      3. +2
        22 February 2021 14: 25
        There is a video where American prisoners are being led across Paris and the French insult and beat these prisoners.
      4. +4
        22 February 2021 15: 37
        In "defeated" Denmark, the army began to be disarmed in 1943, and the police on 19.09.1944/XNUMX/XNUMX .... they had resistance ... yeah ...
        Only the occupation of the Channel Islands was worse - when Baba Mayor запретила The Wehrmacht to land the troops and they sailed away without salt
        Think about it - 30.06.1940/XNUMX/XNUMX, England has been at war with the Reich for almost a year, and here ... "Go nafig" and they sailed back

        Even stoned drug addicts with certificates from a psychiatric hospital will not think that the chairman of the Brest regional executive committee would have come out and would not have allowed the Wehrmacht to violate the border, and they would have obeyed ... but in Europe it would be easy ...

        Maybe ours had to hang an inscription in German at the border - "No entry !!", you look and would have obeyed ... yeah ...
        1. 0
          23 February 2021 22: 35
          The Channel Islands were occupied by the Germans, don't talk nonsense
          1. 0
            24 February 2021 08: 21
            Quote: notingem
            The Channel Islands were occupied by the Germans, don't talk nonsense

            Don't carry it yourself ...
            - at the beginning, the landing was sent into the distance ... And then - two weeks later - conscience stuck in the Wehrmacht for non-observance of the order - they returned and occupied
            Read your opponent first - before you speak your tongue -
            Quote: your1970
            It was only sweeter an occupation Channel Islands -
            1. +1
              24 February 2021 09: 22
              I repeat, the Channel Islands were occupied by the Germans, which is not clear
              1. -1
                24 February 2021 09: 27
                Aha. The German sergeant-major was frightened by the housewife. I can imagine how terrible she was
                1. 0
                  24 February 2021 09: 54
                  I repeat for you personally
                  Quote: your1970
                  only occupation Channel Islands -
                  - how else do you write what NOT deny the occupation of the Channel Islands?

                  Quote: notingem
                  German sergeant major was frightened by a housewife - I can imagine how terrible she was
                  - you can joke as much as you like - but yes, they sailed, they were sent into the distance madam, then they all the same returned ..
                  So scary that they are her obeyed:
                  “In 1940, the Germans (two officers and five soldiers) landed on the island and announced to Lady Sybil-Mary Collings-Beaumont-Hathaway, the 5st ruler of Sark, who ruled the island from 21 to 1927, that her territory was occupied.
                  However, the lady said that this could not be, since Sark did not declare war on Germany. And demanded that the Germans immediately leave the island. Absolutely stunned Germans left the island, but sent a request to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Ribbentrop.
                  Then they still returned, and the island was occupied, but during the "occupation" the Germans behaved as if they were not the owners of the territory, but guests. Moreover, when Lady Hathaway declared that, according to the laws of the island, only horse riding could be used, the use of cars and motorcycles was strictly forbidden, the Germans did not insist, and until the end of the occupation they used horse bastards.
                  On May 10, 1945, the proud lady Hathaway, who represented all the power on the island, accepted surrender from the garrison and then commanded the Germans for a week, until the arrival of the British. "

                  https://topwar.ru/110224-paradoksy-istorii-okkupaciya-germaniey-britanskih-territoriy.html

                  And the photos are very informative - how "brutal" was the occupation.
                  Especially where the English "bobby" smiles ...
      5. +3
        23 February 2021 11: 17
        I read the memoirist Louis de Funes (Commissar JuVe in Fantômas) Louis played the piano chanson so much while entertaining the German officers in the restaurant that after the redeployment from France to Stalingrad, the officers became so morally corrupted that for a very long time they could not figure out how to fight the Russians. not under the table, if you have finished reading. Here is such a concoction the French are served!
    2. +2
      22 February 2021 09: 46
      Quote: svp67
      And the descendants of those "producers" are now trying to prove that our ancestors were then "to blame for everything."

      And Europe, as always - "Not guilty, I am!"
    3. +5
      22 February 2021 14: 49
      At the end of the 90s, they arranged an acquaintance to work in a joint venture where the founders were the French. Once they came to visit us. And one of our directors, and there were a lot of them, reminded the Frenchman about the Second World War, well, how we like to remember. And he made the translator translate. The Frenchman grimaced and replied "To hear something like this from a person who surrendered his homeland without a single shot to the United States and is now cooperating with the occupation regime, France is not a NATO member, I do not intend."
      1. +2
        22 February 2021 18: 47
        The iron argument.
      2. KLV
        +1
        23 February 2021 09: 34
        Can the last sentence be more literate? And then I already broke my head, trying to understand ...
        1. 0
          23 February 2021 19: 40
          Questions about spelling?
          1. 0
            23 February 2021 22: 19
            apparently something like this
            Quote: Mother Teresa
            The Frenchman grimaced and replied "Hear something like this from a person, which surrendered his homeland without a single shot to the United States and is now cooperating with the occupation regime, France is a NATO member - I do not intend. "

            And yes, if you consider the French Resistance-resistance to the Wehrmacht, then this Frenchman can move further ...
            only now they will be conquered by the Arabs - without a single shot ...
            1. -1
              28 February 2021 10: 11
              You can get out and about, but the Frenchman can't?
              Taking into account the birth rate in Russian families, the result will be one in Russia or in France.
  2. +12
    22 February 2021 05: 50
    The author completely forgot something about the hardworking Czech Republic!
    1. 0
      22 February 2021 06: 35
      Not only the Czech Republic. France, Romania also "tried" (just offhand) And the Scandinavian countries, with ore as "helped". I think that everyone except Mongolia was "straining" for the Wehrmacht. Everything for the front, everything for the Wehrmacht. (()) True, a little later, they all ended up in the circle of "victorious countries" including France with its one squadron and one million Frenchmen who fought in the Wehrmacht. Even the Americans "helped" as much as they could - Shell supplied fuel. It is high time to reveal all the historical maps and designate, at least in general terms, the role of "foreign assistants". In order not to be fools and know your "heroes"
      1. +6
        22 February 2021 12: 02
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Romania

        She was an ally of the Reich.
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Even the Americans "helped" as much as they could - Shell supplied fuel.

        Shell is not an American company, in the first place. And secondly, there are no confirmed facts about the "supply" of oil and fuel by the Americans to the Reich after Germany declared war on the United States. Except in Hayem's fevered brain.
        1. -1
          20 May 2021 15: 15
          SHELL supplied fuel to spain and she resold fuel to the Reich
          1. 0
            20 May 2021 15: 25
            Quote: kremlim56
            SHELL supplied fuel to spain and she resold fuel to the Reich

            I wrote:
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Except in Hayem's inflamed brain.
  3. +20
    22 February 2021 05: 53
    It is strange that the article even contains information about Switzerland, but not a word about the main smithy of the Reich ... I mean the Czech Republic, of course, which until the last day tirelessly forged weapons for Germany.
    1. +7
      22 February 2021 06: 53
      What is Switzerland, the eternal savings bank! ... Even the Vatican and the Pope, quietly kept quiet about the atrocities in concentration camps and the extermination of Jews.
      1. +10
        22 February 2021 07: 29
        No, the Vatican and the Pope did not even keep quiet - For example, the "rat paths" of escaped German criminals - it was the Vatican who organized their escape.
        In the third year after the end of World War II, one of the Nazi war criminals managed to escape from custody in Linz, Austria. Franz Stangl, a former SS Hauptsturmführer and commandant of the Sobibor and Treblinka concentration camps responsible for the deaths of nearly a million Jews, walked through Graz and Meran to Florence.
        His target was 300 kilometers further south: Rome, the capital of Italy, or rather, the Vatican. “You must be Franz Stangl, I was expecting you,” the Roman bishop Alois Hudal greeted him upon arrival and arranged for him forged documents.

        First, through the Alps to Italy - through this loophole 90 percent of Nazi criminals escaped.

        Papa Pius, somehow recognized the fascist government in Italy, and fully supported them. which, however, you will not find in Pedivikia supervised by the State Department - there is only about how he "condemned" everyone, yes ...
        1. +1
          22 February 2021 12: 47
          Quote: Cowbra
          Papa Pius, somehow recognized the fascist government in Italy, and fully supported them. which, however, you will not find in Pedivikia supervised by the State Department - there is only about how he "condemned" everyone, yes ...

          Pius the 12th. He was silent throughout the war.
          The funniest thing is that after the war, conversations began in the spirit of 'if the Pope excommunicated the Nazi elite from the church, it would save millions of people ...'
      2. -3
        22 February 2021 12: 20
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Even the Vatican and the Pope kept quiet about the atrocities in the concentration camps and the extermination of Jews.

        The Russian Orthodox Church, by the way, during the war also did not single out the Jews as a separate category of victims and did not call on to help them. The foreign Orthodox Church rushed to condemn the Holocaust only in 1945, when the alignment was completely clear (a well-known letter from the head of the ROCA, Anastasia)
        1. +7
          22 February 2021 13: 21
          The Russian Orthodox Church, by the way, during the war also did not single out Jews as a separate category of victims.


          Should I ? And exactly "separately"? 20 million lives this is so, the main thing is the Jews "separately". Yes, the "Russian" Jews of those years are respected for the fact that they fought with the whole people. Side by side in the trenches and in factories. You'd better not separate them, they are ours, no less "Russian" than anyone. Though a Tatar, even a Mordvin.
          1. -2
            22 February 2021 14: 22
            Quote: dauria
            Should I ?

            If the ROC does not have to, then why should one demand this from the ROC?
            1. +2
              22 February 2021 14: 56
              Paragraph Epitafievich, you here do not bring discord into the minds. The ROC donated a lot of money to the front. And despite the persecution of the church in the post-revolutionary period, the destruction and closure of churches, the plundering of shrines, she did not stand under the banner of Hitler, like Vlasov with her scum. DO NOT touch the Orthodox Church. This is our story.
              1. -7
                22 February 2021 15: 26
                Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                DO NOT touch the Orthodox Church.

                Well, that's my business, isn't it?
                RCCs are immediately criticized - and nothing.
    2. +2
      22 February 2021 09: 07
      You obviously didn't understand the real purpose of this article - that Poland is the worst of all.
      This is what the data in the table should show - basically it.

      I will say more - the Poles produced much more - most of the territory was part of the Reich, not the General Government.

      Yes, they produced under threat of death and forcibly, not of their own free will and not in their own country.
      Like the population of the occupied territories of the USSR, she also worked for the good of the Wehrmacht - she also could not decide freely.
      1. +5
        22 February 2021 09: 35
        Quote: Constanty
        You obviously didn't understand the real purpose of this article - that Poland is the worst of all.

        How is this?
        Quote: Constanty
        I will say more - the Poles produced much more - most of the territory was part of the Reich, not the General Government.

        Yes? And then, out of my stupidity, I thought that in those territories there were a lot of Germans who, after the transfer of territories, by the will of the "bloody" Stalin to Poland, were simply deported. And it is there that ... Thank you, explained
        1. +1
          22 February 2021 11: 08
          I did not mean the so-called Western territories a, for example, the Warta Country ("Reichsgau Wartheland / Warthegau), part of Upper Silesia with Katowice, Pomerania with Gdynia, Bydgoszcz."
          On the other hand, a significant part of the eastern territories included in East Prussia (Bialystok region) or the Reichskommissariat OST

      2. +1
        22 February 2021 12: 22
        You obviously didn't understand the real purpose of this article - that Poland is the worst of all.
        Yes, leave YOU this Poland alone. They are unhappy and without that, they are always beaten in the face - from Western Europe, to from Russia .. And even internal strife, among the gentry .. That's really, really, the "passage yard" of Europe ...
        1. +6
          22 February 2021 12: 25
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          Yes, leave YOU this Poland alone.

          Interesting advice to a Pole laughing
          1. -2
            22 February 2021 13: 28
            Okay. As an apology, take away, Lviv. ) A beautiful city with wonderful Gothic architecture. You will not regret.)
            1. +2
              22 February 2021 14: 33
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              As an apology, take away, Lviv. )

              Why do you dispose of other people's territories?
              1. 0
                22 February 2021 14: 35
                Your question is the answer to your question.)
        2. +10
          22 February 2021 13: 12
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          Yes, leave YOU this Poland alone.


          Not to me with an appeal to abandon Poland, but earlier to the editorial board of BO.
          I notice that topics about my homeland are too widely represented (overrepresentation), mainly with the aim of generating negative attitudes from readers.
          Believe it or not, there are not so many texts about Russia on Polish pages, and if there are, they refer to current events.
          Various right-wing (few, but noisy, I admit) Russophobes write more for themselves and no one takes them seriously.

          I don’t know whose interests - certainly not both of our countries will foment already bad relations, instead of striving for an agreement.
          1. +3
            22 February 2021 13: 38
            YOU are so offended in vain. I have nothing wrong with the Poles. Only to the politicians of Poland with their stupid leadership of the country. As for inciting hatred, this article only sets out the facts collected by the author of the article from available sources. That was something. They worked for the Wehrmacht throughout Europe and Poland as well. To deny means to escape from reality.
            PS Moreover, so that you do not take offense at me, I can tell you that I fully support the political movement "Eastern Crescents" and I am sure that it is simply necessary to restore historical justice. If you are a Pole, then you understand what I mean. )
            I hope you are no longer offended by me.)
            1. +6
              22 February 2021 13: 51
              Thanks for the balanced answer!

              Only to the politicians of Poland with their stupid leadership of the country

              I, a Pole living in Poland, unfortunately also have these feelings.

              Worked for the Wehrmacht throughout Europe and Poland including

              Full agreement. Only that these countries were under occupation.

              The USSR exported oil to the Third Reich from September 1, 1939 to June 22, 1941 - the last echelons with tankers crossed the border almost hours before the start of Barbarossa.
              It turns out that in fact all of Europe, and not only, in different periods of the war, supported Hitler's military efforts.

              "Kresi Vskhodnie" is sentiment, nostalgia, no political plan, borderline revisionism and no changes in Europe.
              As a Pole, whose family comes from Kresey (present-day Belarus), I, of course, feel sad, but this is no longer Poland - this is Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine - lands that are in some way close, although alien states.

              Best wishes
              1. 0
                22 February 2021 13: 56
                the last echelons of tankers crossed the border almost hours before the start of Barbarossa.
                A Pole living in Poland knows the history of the USSR so well? .. Surprised. That's great rarity. Probably V.S. Do you read Pikul?)
                And as for the "oriental kreses" I would not promise. Politics is an unexpected and unpredictable thing. And Ukraine, as a state, is getting weaker and weaker ... And Hungary, too, does not sleep ... So, who knows ... We will wait and see ..
                1. +4
                  22 February 2021 14: 53
                  I read a lot in Russian. Including, for example, the book Yuri Leontievich Dyakov; Tatiana Semyonovna Bushueva "The fascist sword was forged in the USSR" :
                  Red Army and Reichswehr. Secret collaboration. 1922-1933. Unknown documents (1992),
                  Although I specialize in the history of the Russian fleet during the Russo-Japanese War and the Great War, not only Soviet aid to the Kriegsmarine (Bremen, Comet ...) I also read a lot about the history of Russia and the USSR. I read about the centers of Kama, Lipieck, about lively economic relations (including in the field of arms - for example, about Tevosyan's mission) in the period 1939-1941 ...

                  And Ukraine as a state is getting weaker and weaker.

                  After the war, more than 800 Poles were resettled from the territory of today's Ukraine to Poland.
                  There are almost no Poles there - and certainly not so many that these lands could be included in Poland in the event of a very likely collapse of this state.
                  I will say more - it would be a huge tragedy for Poland if it took away at least a piece of land with the descendants of Bandera within its borders - I think it would be safer and more stable if there was a border with Russia. is a much more serious neighbor.
                  1. 0
                    22 February 2021 15: 21
                    Thanks for the answer. We have common literature with you. The fact is that my FIRST book that I read as a child was the works of Alfred Shklyarsky - "The Adventures of Tomek". I couldn’t take it off my ears. Everyone knows Jules Verne, but almost a few have heard of Shklyarsky's books. Although, after Shklyarsky I read Verne, but Shklyarsky writes more exciting.
                    Cooperation between Germany and the USSR, in my opinion, was caused by the revolution in Russia and the Versailles Treaty in Germany. The Union and Germany simply sent everyone else further and refused to pay the money on the debts. So they turned out to be rogue states. Now it is called, "under sanctions") Here we have views, agree. And the Lipetsk Aviation Center still exists. There is a silver lining, as they say in Russia.)
                    "I will say more - it would be a huge tragedy for Poland if it took away at least a piece of land with the descendants of Bandera within its borders."
                    And it's a pity ... Historical justice would have been restored (in part of the lands of Golitsia, Lvov), and with the "Ukrainization" and "Bandera" the Poles would have put things in order.)
                    1. +3
                      22 February 2021 15: 32
                      Well, look - you remember Shklyarsky and Tomek's trips, and as a child I was very impressed by the novel by Boris Nikolaevich Polevoy "The Story of a Real Man", or especially "Tsushima" - the novel by Alexei Silych Novikov-Priboy, which was the beginning of my fascination with the history of the Russian fleet. Sorokin's "Defense of the Port Artur", Melnikov's books ... or even the memoirs of Mamert Stankevich - a Pole in the service of the Russian fleet - this is how they aroused curiosity and a desire to get to know each other.
                      Russia has a wonderful, interesting history - at times tragic, at times bad for my Motherland, but it attracts and fascinates.

                      with "Ukrainization" and with "Bandera" they would have put things in order.
                      worried about the current law - because it can only be burned with living fire - I see no other method, since this hydra is reborn after 70 years and is proudly paraded.
                      1. +1
                        22 February 2021 15: 57
                        worried about the current law - because it can only be burned with living fire - I see no other method, since this hydra is reborn after 70 years and is proudly paraded.
                        Totally agree with you!!!
                        If you are interested in the history of the fleet, read V.S. Pikul "Cruiser". "Requium for caravan PQ-17". Pikul speaks very well of your fellow officers of the Russian Imperial Navy and the Navy of the USSR. And the book is very interesting.
                      2. +5
                        22 February 2021 16: 08
                        Yes, I once read this book in translation.
                        Many Poles in the Russian imperial fleet served faithfully - Schensnovich, Podrebsky, Poklevsky-Koziel, Ksaveri Chernitsky, Rylke and, finally, Voinovitsky, many others.
                        They were professionals, faithful to the officer's oath. Poles - Slavs
                  2. 0
                    24 February 2021 14: 46
                    About the "fascist sword" in the form of 200 pilots better not. It's funny. especially since there was nothing fascist about it. Germany lo 1933 was the same republic as Poland and traded with the whole world. The USSR did not sign any anti-German treaties and had the right to any cooperation with Germany. As well as the USA, which, in fact, lent and supplied the Reich until 1944, both directly and through intermediaries. And the USSR just broke the blockade and received from Germany modern military technologies and equipment in exchange for raw materials. And for German loans.
              2. +2
                22 February 2021 14: 57
                Quote: Constanty
                The USSR exported oil to the Third Reich from September 1, 1939 to June 22, 1941 - the last echelons with tankers crossed the border almost hours before the start of Barbarossa.

                So what? The impression is that the USSR unexpectedly attacked Germany, and not vice versa. And tell me up to what moment did the goods go from unbroken Sweden or from the USA?
                1. 0
                  22 February 2021 15: 04
                  This does not change the fact that the supply of materials and raw materials from the USSR supported the war effort of the Third Reich during this period.
                  And this was done not under duress, but out of pure calculation.

                  As for the unexpected German attack on the USSR - before September 1, 1939, this would have been impossible - there was simply no physical common border.
                  1. +2
                    24 February 2021 10: 33
                    Quote: Constanty
                    This does not change the fact that the supply of materials and raw materials from the USSR supported the war effort of the Third Reich during this period.
                    And this was done not under duress, but out of pure calculation.

                    You just need to remember what the USSR paid for with materials, raw materials and food.
                    ... among those ordered by the Stalingrad Tank Plant as necessary for the production of T-34 machines, there were:
                    - screw-cutting “Heydsireich and Garbeck” 13 pcs., “Beringer” 11 pcs., “Dr. Brown” 1 pc .;
                    - turning and rotary "Niles" 35 pcs .;
                    - turning and multi-cutting “Guishold” 11 pcs .;
                    - revolving "Heinemann" 18 pcs .;
                    - Dental "Maag" 2 pcs.;
                    - gearshakers “Reinecker” 6 pcs., “Lorenz” 3 pcs., “Pfauter” 1 pc.;
                    - universal grinding "Schmalz" - 1 pc .;
                    - intra-grinding "Wotan" 1 pc .;
                    - slot grinding “F. Werner "3 pcs.;
                    - grinding “Glisson” 1 pc.
                    © Ulanov / Shein
                    The Germans strenuously supplied the USSR without even the ropes on which to hang them ©, and equipment for their production. smile
                  2. 0
                    24 February 2021 16: 33
                    Quote: Constanty
                    This does not change the fact that the supply of materials and raw materials from the USSR supported the war effort of the Third Reich during this period.

                    But this does not change the fact that the USSR received for this VIRTUALLY NECESSARY technologies and equipment for its defense capability, which were not supplied at that moment by ANYONE because of the sanctions
                    1. -1
                      24 February 2021 16: 44
                      Aren't these sanctions the result of the attack on Finland? Earlier, the United States was ready to sell instruments, aircraft engines and licenses to the USSR.
                      1. 0
                        24 February 2021 16: 55
                        Quote: Constanty
                        Aren't these sanctions the result of the attack on Finland? Earlier, the United States was ready to sell instruments, aircraft engines and licenses to the USSR.

                        And up to this point, both the United States and other capitalist countries imposed sanctions against the USSR.
                  3. 0
                    24 February 2021 16: 36
                    Quote: Constanty
                    As for the unexpected German attack on the USSR - before September 1, 1939, this would have been impossible - there was simply no physical common border.

                    And who gave Germany the opportunity to enter it, who allowed the German army, weakened by the Versailles Peace, to "pump up muscle" by withdrawing from those agreements and annex territories rich in industrial potential, primarily military?
                    1. -1
                      24 February 2021 16: 42
                      Do you mean the USSR, the agreement with Rapallo and the provision of military bases in Kama and Lipetsk?
                      After all, it was there that the Germans trained their headquarters, creating the Blitzkrieg concept.
                      1. 0
                        24 February 2021 16: 48
                        Quote: Constanty
                        Do you mean the USSR, the agreement with Rapallo and the provision of military bases in Kama and Lipetsk?

                        Yes, such an agreement. Tell me, but Sweden, "neutral" Sweden did not "shelter" then German tank designers, where they could work without fear of international sanctions, and German aircraft designers did not work in the Netherlands?
                        Quote: Constanty
                        After all, it was there that the Germans trained their headquarters, creating the Blitzkrieg concept.

                        But clarify WHAT headquarters they trained there?
                      2. -1
                        24 February 2021 16: 52
                        In the Netherlands and Finland, the Germans even built submarines - and in the USSR too - initially the "C" submarines had the designation "H" - from the word German.

                        cadres would indeed be a better word than headquarters
                      3. 0
                        24 February 2021 17: 06
                        Quote: Constanty
                        cadres would indeed be a better word than headquarters

                        It was like that, but we also got the experience there that we did not have and cooperation with Germany went on until Hitler came to power
                      4. -1
                        24 February 2021 19: 02
                        As for the submarines I have indicated, they are already under the rule of Hitler.

                        And yes, such cooperation can be justified, and the benefits for the USSR - undoubtedly - does not deny.
                        I only state the fact of cooperation
                      5. 0
                        24 February 2021 19: 21
                        Quote: Constanty
                        I only state the fact of cooperation

                        It was, but BEFORE Hitler came to power. And if on the account of cooperation, then I can give you another example of such cooperation - the involvement of German firms and specialists for the development of projects and training of Soviet specialists.
                2. +1
                  24 February 2021 14: 47
                  From the USA until the 44th, from Sweden until the 45th.
                  1. 0
                    24 February 2021 19: 22
                    Quote: meandr51
                    From the USA to the 44th

                    Oh, is it? Opel belonged to the Americans and worked to the end, like many chemical enterprises
            2. -3
              22 February 2021 14: 41
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              I fully support the political movement "Eastern Crosses" and I am sure that it is simply necessary to restore historical justice.

              Look how it is ... And what exactly is this justice?
              1. +3
                22 February 2021 15: 11
                There is no justice, there has never been and never will be. Especially between countries. There is no honor either. There are only the interests of states.

                And Poland is in the slightest degree interested in raising the already closed topic of "Oriental Crees". They should remember their history as part of the former lands of Rzeczypospolitej.
                I dream of a trip to Stolpets or Tomsk, where my great-grandfather served and lived for several years, but these are just sentiments and nothing more.
    3. -2
      22 February 2021 15: 44
      Well, yes, pz35, 38 marders, hitzer jagdpants with 47 mm Czech-made cannons, in 1941 one of the most powerful anti-cancer weapons of the Wehrmacht and other nishtyaks that the Poles regularly supplied the Wehrmacht with
  4. +9
    22 February 2021 07: 35
    Quote: Radius
    The author completely forgot something about the hardworking Czech Republic!

    The Czech Republic was then a part of the Reich, and was not perceived as "abroad", another state. hi
    1. -1
      22 February 2021 09: 11
      Not really - although they were part of the so-called "Greater Germany" formed the so-called autonomous "Protectorate of Böhmen and Mähren" - Protektorat Böhmen und Mähren
  5. +2
    22 February 2021 08: 25
    Interesting article and rare numbers. Thanks to the author, I read it with pleasure.
    1. +10
      22 February 2021 10: 17
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Thanks to the author,

      I looked at the first photo in an article where a neat Fraulein sorts cartridges for the German troops who killed civilians and remembered other photos where Soviet children stood at the machines, replacing their parents.

  6. 0
    22 February 2021 09: 41
    It must be admitted that with each new campaign to the east, Europe is getting better and better prepared and corrects the mistakes of previous campaigns against us. If it goes like this, then at one point it may become that the total destruction of 2/3 of the population of Europe will become a strategic guarantor against an attack on us from this direction
    1. 0
      24 February 2021 14: 49
      And so little?
      1. 0
        24 February 2021 15: 01
        And who will make jamon with olives?
  7. -2
    22 February 2021 10: 23
    The author, indeed, managed to find interesting information about the production of weapons for the Nazis in Poland.

    It turns out that she produced it at the level of France and more than all other European countries. Until now I knew only about Polish Oil for the Reich

    Always in information about the weapons of the Reich, the emphasis is on the Czechs, Austrians, French, and the Poles somehow did not come across. And they, it turns out, "gloriously" worked for the Nazis ....
    1. -2
      22 February 2021 12: 25
      Well yes. The Poles are still the "Stakhanovites" of the Wehrmacht.
    2. -2
      24 February 2021 11: 04
      Without exaggeration, the Polish pistol VIS wz. 35 is known to anyone interested in the history of weapons.

      Before the start of the war, the Poles produced less than 50 of them. units, while the Germans for their army under the designation P.000 (p) produced from 35 to 312 thousand units. Some of them were produced in Austria at the Steyer plant, but at the former Polish plant in Radom they were produced until 385.

      This is one of the samples of weapons produced in occupied Poland for the Wehrmacht. Nobody ever hid it.

      In Poland, rifles had to be produced (probably Mauser 98), because it is known that underground Polish submachine guns "Sten" and "Blyskawica" received their barrels from the cut of rifle barrels stolen from the factory by Polish workers.
      1. -2
        24 February 2021 11: 28
        Quote: Constanty
        Nobody ever hid it.

        and where it is written that Poland produced weapons for Hitler more than any other an occupied country in Europe?

        And this is data on the governorship, WITHOUT the western regions of Poland, included in Germany
        1. -2
          24 February 2021 12: 36
          Poland produced more weapons for Hitler than any other occupied country in Europe


          it is not true. although the Germans captured numerous industrial enterprises capable of producing modern military equipment. The factories assembled in the Central Industrial Region, the URSUS factories, the factories in Mielec, Debice and Radom are just a few examples of Polish industrial enterprises whose resources were seized by the Nazis and used during World War II, but this Czechoslovakia was an occupied state that produced for Hitler more than any other occupied country in Europe.
          1. -3
            24 February 2021 12: 49
            Quote: Constanty
            Poland produced more weapons for Hitler than any other occupied country in Europe


            it is not true. although the Germans captured numerous industrial enterprises capable of producing modern military equipment. The factories assembled in the Central Industrial Region, the URSUS factories, the factories in Mielec, Debice and Radom are just a few examples of Polish industrial enterprises whose resources were seized by the Nazis and used during World War II, but this Czechoslovakia was an occupied state that produced for Hitler more than any other occupied country in Europe.

            The discussion is in within articleso see table above - Governorship produced more France.

            And the emergency was part of the Reich.

            If we consider it separately, then I have no doubt that it produced more than Poland.
            1. -2
              24 February 2021 12: 53
              As I wrote earlier, the Czech territories formed an autonomous Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia.

              And why he was not included in the table - precisely so that Poland would be in a worse position. A striking example of manipulation.
              1. -3
                24 February 2021 12: 56
                Quote: Constanty
                As I wrote earlier, the Czech territories formed an autonomous Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia.

                The protectorate was an autonomous Nazi territory, which the German government considered part of the Greater German Reich

                therefore everything is logical.
              2. 0
                24 February 2021 14: 15
                The Protectorate was not in the original tables.
                Do you really think that I would have passed such a fact?

                So there is no conspiracy here.
  8. +1
    22 February 2021 11: 04
    The author, I would be very grateful if you find a detailed list: what types of weapons were produced. And such information should be.
    So I’ll tell you what they could get from Poland - Mauser carbines, VIS Radom pistols.
    Czech Republic - cars, engines for Junkers, small arms.
    Belgium - small arms, ammunition, communications.
    France - light automatic weapons, optics, communications, ammunition.
    I proceed from what was produced on the eve of WWII. Logically, the same product range remained in WWII.
    It was fun to read about the Hungarian communists and the Romanian anti-fascist resistance, and even now I can find people who remember the Hungarians, Romanians and Slovaks.
    How they treated civilians
    1. 0
      22 February 2021 15: 54
      Quote: vladcub
      Czech Republic - cars, engines for Junkers, small arms.
      -plus Hetzer
      1. +1
        23 February 2021 21: 06
        Quote: your1970
        Quote: vladcub
        Czech Republic - cars, engines for Junkers, small arms.
        -plus Hetzer
        -Oh how ... the miners decided - that the Czechs did not make the Hetzer in the war ...
  9. -1
    22 February 2021 12: 42
    Good, balanced article.
    Thanks, Author.
    Thanks to such articles, little by little, the population of the Russian Federation will come to a simple thought: "In 1941-45, our ancestors fought with a united Europe. In fact, with the European Union, built on the basis of National Socialism."
    This thought also has a downside - as in that army saying: "Wherever you kiss a soldier - everywhere he has f @ na" - that is, nothing, never and under no circumstances can be done for Europe out of good intentions - only a sober, pragmatic and a state-selfish approach with a constant benevolent smile, across the entire nuclear triad, on his face.
    I think so.
    1. 0
      26 February 2021 11: 48
      For the pro-Stalinist blockheads: due to the fact that he, your beloved Dzhugash, then decided to punish the Poles in this way and, together with Hitler, unleashed 2 MV (EU regulation of 2019), Germany was able to start 2 MV, and Russia lost tens of millions men of reproductive age in the Second World War, from whom tens of millions of children were not born, when the Nazis captured Western Europe as a result of the Molotov PACT, capturing it by the military-industrial complex, forcing it to work for the 3rd Reich and collecting trophies, calmly turned around and attacked the stupid Stalinists.
      1. 0
        26 February 2021 22: 06
        H-Yes.
        Punctuation, spelling.
        Another Gretushka on our head.
        To school, my friend, to school.
  10. +8
    22 February 2021 12: 46
    Without data on the range of orders, it is difficult to say what exactly was produced there. It can be assumed that these were the simplest and most popular types in production: rifles, machine guns, pistols, cartridges, grenades, mortar mines, shells for field artillery.
    Here the author is greatly mistaken.
    For example, the French firm Manufacture d'Armes de Tulle (MAT) produced the Mitrailleuse de 25 mm and 75-mm mod. 1936, aircraft cannons Hispano-Suiza HS.404, German aircraft machine gun MG 131.
    1. 0
      22 February 2021 13: 04
      Quote: Undecim
      aircraft cannon Hispano-Suiza HS.404

      Is it? It was also produced in Grantham, Britain, in a factory built before the war.
      1. +4
        22 February 2021 13: 42
        Britain made its licensed version (Mk I, Mk II, Mk V) for itself, making some changes along the way, Germany was naturally not taken into account in their production plans.
        The French called the cannon Hispano-Suiza HS.404, used it on seven types of aircraft, if my memory serves me, and produced it themselves.
        1. -4
          22 February 2021 14: 50
          But the Reich did not get it
          1. +3
            22 February 2021 15: 40
            Got it. Together with production in Holland at Aviolanda factories of Dornier Do 24 aircraft.
            In addition, the Germans used them as MZA.
            1. +1
              22 February 2021 16: 52
              Did not know. I assumed the HS was used mainly by the British. But, I suppose, the Germans only used this gun occasionally?
              1. +4
                22 February 2021 17: 40
                During the occupation, 159 Dornier Do 24 were assembled in Holland, 48 in France, for a total of 207.
                How many of them were completed with HS.404, how many MG151 - you need to look.
                1. +2
                  23 February 2021 08: 18
                  Happy Holidays!

                  Also a vintage postcard. hi
  11. +1
    22 February 2021 13: 48
    What kind of discrimination ?! the author forgot about the Czechs .......
  12. -6
    22 February 2021 15: 30
    Poland can be safely attributed to Germany's allies, and Poles to Hitler's accomplices. The ugliest country in Europe.
    1. 0
      24 February 2021 12: 57
      Of course, it is convenient for you to ignore the fact that it was occupied by German troops.

      It was not an ally, but a conquered state and forced laborers.
    2. 0
      26 February 2021 11: 47
      Czechoslovakia gave the Czechoslovakia region to Poland.
      1) From the very beginning: Czechoslovakia was created by the camps of the West, after 1 MV. As winners in 1 MB (by the same logic as the USSR annexed three islands of the Kuril ridge)
      Russia then, thanks to the Bolsheviks, sat in the ass (they gave a third of Russia to the Germans, then and what now - is all this German ???)
      It was an illegitimate child, they realized the truth about his unviability and decided to adjust their decisions.

      And appease the Germans. Yes, fools, but better than Stalin's malicious intent with his secret protocols to the Pact, which untied Hitler's hands and started 2 MV.
      2) Fact:
      On October 24, 1938, Berlin proposed Warsaw an alliance and a “global solution” of controversial issues: the construction of an extraterritorial motorway through the Polish Pomerania to German East Prussia, the accession of the Free City of Danzig to the Reich, and Poland’s entry into the anti-Comintern pact against the Soviet Union. Poland rejected the proposal.

      Conclusion:
      Poland never had the slightest desire to enter into an alliance with Germany against the USSR, just as it did not intend, however, to participate in the anti-German bloc on the side of the Soviet Union. At the same time, Poland feared an ally in the person of the USSR almost more than an enemy in the person of Germany. As it turned out after 1939, this was reasonable: when Soviet troops came under the guise of allies, they usually remained as occupiers.

      Meanness:
      Offended by the Poles that they wanted not to enter into an alliance with Germany, the Fuhrer tore up the non-aggression pact with Poland and proposed the same USSR. The Stalinists agreed and
      for the fact that the Poles, together with the Germans, did not begin to attack the Soviet people, the USSR concluded in the second half of 1939 the Treaty of Friendship with Nazi Germany and dismembered Poland into two parts
  13. Fat
    0
    22 February 2021 19: 01
    Most of all knocks me out of ... World perception.
    Maki's actions. Awesome effect.
  14. 0
    22 February 2021 20: 53
    As for the production of weapons and ammunition in Greece, it is still difficult to say what it was. Most likely, the Germans managed to create factories there and start production. Greece in 1943 supplied products for a whopping 730 million Reichsmarks. This was mainly shipbuilding. But I have not yet been able to find more accurate data on this.

    In Greece, weapons were used chambered for 7,92x57 mm.
    75000 FN Model 24/30 short rifles were purchased.
    There were also trophies from the Greek-Turkish war of 1919-1922 in the form of Turkish Mauser Model 1903.
    It was for these rifles that the Greeks mastered their own production of cartridges!
    A batch of such cartridges was manufactured for Republican Spain in 1938.
    There is also information about the production of 7,92x57 cartridges ordered by the British military! For testing the BESA machine gun being adopted. The British military did not dare to use 7,92x57 cartridges of their own production (production was just getting better) and ordered a batch of cartridges in Greece!
    So that cartridges for the Germans were produced at already existing factories.
  15. -4
    22 February 2021 21: 56
    Why not a word about the Czech Republic? The Czechs handed over all the warehouses to the Germans under the signature, the tunic in the tunic, the Germans were even amazed at such punctuality and readiness for "cooperation". The tanks of the Czechs turned out to be better than the German ones, and the main wave of tanks to Moscow was the Czech, artillery and tanks, cartridges and shells were sculpted by the Czechs for the Nazis from the first to the last day of the war without compulsion. The damage from weapons from Czech factories was enormous, they were of the highest quality.
    1. +1
      22 February 2021 22: 42
      Because there is a large archive on the Protectorate, you can watch it for a long time.
  16. -1
    23 February 2021 08: 27
    For some reason, this table does not mention Czechoslovakia, which supplied more than half of all ammunition for the Wehrmacht's small arms.
  17. -1
    23 February 2021 15: 45
    Something the Czech Republic cannot be seen ... where are these former friends ...
    // Here is what A. Petrov wrote about Czech aid to the Hitlerite Reich in his article "Crafty petition":
    By June 1941, almost a third of the German units were equipped with Czech weapons. The hands of the Czechs collected a quarter of all tanks, 26 percent of trucks and 40 percent of the small arms of the German army. According to the Center for the German War Economy, on March 31, 1944, the Fuhrer from the shops of 857 factories in the Czech Republic received weapons and equipment worth almost 13 billion Reichsmarks. //https://govorilkin.livejournal.com/866.html.
  18. +1
    23 February 2021 20: 06
    Enthusiasm fell in non-occupied countries such as Portugal, Spain, Turkey, and in others, the bombings affected. But in general, the Germans even tried not to develop production at home, and even in the occupied countries, even more so, and in 1941 the increase in supplies is explained rather not by an increase in enthusiasm, but by the withdrawal from army warehouses and backlog in industry
  19. 0
    24 February 2021 06: 27
    A French film about their winemaking caught my eye. Briefly: before the war, French winemakers were in crisis, then the weather, then the world crisis (champagne became expensive), then the war undermined the affairs of the producers of champagne and cognac. But the war has lost, and the invaders have a taste for good booze. The Wehrmacht began to actively order it, the prices were clearly not elite, but the orders were constant, this helped not only to graze winemaking, but also to give it growth. In general, they owe the champagne to which the French met the Americans and Leclair's tanks to the Germans. Not cartridges, of course, but also very revealing. French cognac often comes across in the memories of front-line soldiers among the trophies taken
  20. 0
    24 February 2021 14: 52
    An interesting fact: in the Soviet occupied territory, the Nazis failed to establish almost any production. And in Europe - 100% of industry and agriculture worked for them! So the occupation is different. Why didn't the Poles blow up their military factories?
    1. 0
      25 February 2021 18: 36
      ... An interesting fact: in the Soviet occupied territory, the Nazis failed to establish almost any production.

      Who told you? Agriculture, for example, worked very actively, collective farms with new names continued to work, MTS and so on.
      And how do you think our people lived for several years in the occupation, tens of millions of people?
      1. 0
        28 February 2021 20: 57
        As always - subsistence farming. From which you can't take much. Collective farms worked, but not as before the war. MTS left them little - almost all tractors went to artillery tractors or were dismantled.
        There was no diesel fuel either. But the Wehrmacht was 80% provided by Ukraine. The rest was imported from Europe. In Belarus, partisans quite successfully disrupted supplies or took them for themselves.
        Industry in the occupied territories fell by an order of magnitude or more. The equipment was taken out of the Urals or blown up.
        1. +1
          28 February 2021 23: 22
          I was familiar by age with many people who survived the occupation.
          and the wife's aunts were children at that time, they are still alive.
          not all were destroyed and taken out, some remained. Where it remained, it worked, partly the Germans restored it, partly used it not completely, but partly. This is especially true for relatively simple enterprises such as cannery, processing and others.
          Plus, they actively used what did not require large investments in equipment - agriculture, logging. Coal mining also worked. One of his wife's aunts during the war years stole coal from trains that went from Donbass. She was light, in the area where the speed was low, she was put on, she threw out pieces of coal, other children picked up along the canvas.
          About subsistence farming.
          In the city, you can't live much like this, but in the village the Germans collected taxes.
          And what about, if workers were needed somewhere, the Germans and policemen did not stand on ceremony, they just ordered them to go to work, otherwise there could be big problems. Non-working youth were easily sent to Germany, there were raids. There was not enough work in the city, they went to villages, changed things.
          Collective farms worked practically as in Soviet times - at times both the agronomist and the foremen were the same.
          Mechanization has become less, of course, but it was not too widespread before that, especially in gardening, animal husbandry, vegetable growing and others.
          On the whole, of course, industrial production has decreased, but one cannot say that it did not exist at all.
  21. +1
    26 February 2021 11: 45
    For the pro-Stalinist blockheads: due to the fact that he, your beloved Dzhugash, then decided to punish the Poles in this way and, together with Hitler, unleashed 2 MV (EU regulation of 2019), Germany was able to start 2 MV, and Russia lost tens of millions men of reproductive age in the Second World War, from whom tens of millions of children were not born, when the Nazis captured Western Europe as a result of the Molotov PACT, capturing it by the military-industrial complex, forcing it to work for the 3rd Reich and collecting trophies, calmly turned around and attacked the stupid Stalinists.
    1. 0
      28 February 2021 21: 02
      It is better to be a "Stalinist blockhead" than an eternal liberal scholar on the American suction. No one believes your historical tales from the early 90s.
    2. 0
      April 16 2021 20: 30
      USSR Decided to start a war? and not Poland not who there Churchill called the hell of Europe not Poland whether not Poland, together with Hitler, attacked Czechoslovakia and raked the Tishin region
  22. +1
    28 February 2021 00: 58
    What is there to do? I had to eat. In the same way, people in the occupied territories sowed and harvested grain, repaired equipment, made roads. This is sitting warm with a sandwich, you can judge someone, but when hunger and cold ...
    And ordinary people in the occupation did not know how the war would end. Therefore, they worked so as not to die of hunger. And they and we, millions ... When our Red Army liberated the territories, no one condemned anyone. Almost everyone could not be judged.
  23. -1
    3 March 2021 13: 06
    (the text of this comment was supplied at the request of a friend)
    A strange table - what are these faceless "weapons" and "ammunition"? - what is this colossal discrepancy between m / d delivered and ordered? -Type-in ​​the occupied countries-want-produce-want-no? an underdeveloped country - that produces a lot more industrialized Belgium - and even more so France? The author's arguments are that Western European countries, in the middle of the war, reduced production because of embarrassment, what will be said about them after the war is, in general, childish babble. In 1942, the Mauser K98k rifle cost 98 marks, not 60 marks, as the author writes. And-how could underdeveloped Greece deliver products-as much as 730 million? -At the cost, this is almost 4 Bismarcs, 7 thousand fours or (according to the author's figure) 12 million rifles?
  24. +9
    9 March 2021 07: 00
    Yes, they produced a significant amount of production, tangible even on the scale of general German production.

    Especially the Czechs did their best in this field.
  25. 0
    13 May 2021 22: 21
    You would ask (not from this author and not here) what happened in the occupied territories of the USSR,.
    1. 0
      20 May 2021 17: 16
      On the territories of the USSR? Come across such a selection, of course. Loot summary. The numbers are impressive, but if you analyze them, they are very, very low-fat. That would not have happened without active resistance on the ground.