American observers: Russia is the only country that can attempt a massive US nuclear attack

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In the American military-themed press, material was released, which considers options for improving the nuclear arsenal. This is an article by columnists Garrett Hink and Pranay Waddi in War On The Rocks.

The material says that the new US administration is looking for ways to improve the arsenal of nuclear weapons, at the same time, two options are proposed: a complete abandonment of Minuteman intercontinental ballistic missiles, or their soonest replacement with new ones. Basically, this is one option ...



Hink and Pranai write that this is too radical an approach. It was noted that the Joe Biden administration would have to go for an alternative option - to extend the service life of the Minuteman ICBMs. At the same time, the authors of the article write that today "the threat of a massive nuclear strike is extremely small."

From the article:

Russia is the only country in the world that can attempt a massive nuclear attack on the United States.

The authors note that one cannot write off China and North Korea in this regard, but “an attempt to use nuclear weapons in response against these countries will lead to the fact that American ICBMs will fly over the territory of Russia, since it borders on both China and North Korea ".

Hink and Pranai actually make it clear that in the event of a US nuclear war against China or the DPRK, Russia will certainly be drawn into it.

US Press:

The flight of nuclear ICBMs over Russian territory could provoke a nuclear retaliation from Russia. This effectively excludes the possibility of an attack on China and North Korea.

As a result, the authors write that the Biden administration should focus on the fact that it is Russia that needs to be "restrained from the first massive strike," and that ICBMs are still suitable for this, which can be upgraded by extending their service life.
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  1. +5
    16 February 2021 18: 20
    Russia is the only country in the world that can attempt a massive nuclear attack on the United States.



    Yes, if the others could ...
    1. +29
      16 February 2021 18: 26
      Quote: sergo1914
      Russia is the only country in the world that can attempt a massive nuclear attack on the United States.



      Yes, if the others could ...

      We will definitely bang, but then. The whole world is in dust. (C) DMB.
      Our partners should be officially satisfied that in the event of an attack by the Russian Federation with conventional weapons, the entire territory of their states will be vitrified like asphalt. The only thing in which I agree with Khrushchev.
      1. +18
        16 February 2021 19: 19
        The only thing in which I agree with Khrushchev.

        Well .....
        But I don't understand at all what these authors meant.
        The authors note that China and North Korea cannot be written off in this regard, but “an attempt to use nuclear weapons in response against these countries will lead to that American ICBMs will fly over Russian territory, since it borders both China and North Korea. "

        I can't understand why they must necessarily fly OVER the territory of Russia? Are they going to launch them from Europe and Alaska? )))
        But what about ICBM missiles on American submarines? Is it impossible with them? Or have these missiles already fallen into disrepair, that they are considering only the land version of ICBM missiles? ))))
        I can not understand .....
        1. -3
          16 February 2021 20: 09
          And these are the authors of the article. They paid attention to the budget, and various little things .. well, this is secondary.
          1. +4
            16 February 2021 23: 39
            Russia is the only country that can attempt a massive US nuclear attack

            amendment - massive ANSWERING attacks
            1. -6
              17 February 2021 01: 08
              We are discussing theories here, and obviously after smoking, therefore, without any amendment, theoretically it can any massive attack ...
        2. mvg
          +4
          16 February 2021 20: 31
          I can not understand .....

          Because 400 Minutemen will fly across the North Pole to the PRC and DPRK. It will be difficult for them to miss the territory of the Russian Federation. Otherwise Nevada-Beijing 11 km
          1. +3
            16 February 2021 22: 09
            Because 400 Minutemen will fly across the North Pole to the PRC and DPRK. It will be difficult for them to miss the territory of the Russian Federation. Otherwise Nevada-Beijing 11 km

            And to launch ICBMs from the sub-blocks, in any way across China? Or is an ICBM on amer. Podlokah just an element of propaganda, but in fact it does not work? Look - there is the Yellow Sea, the East China Sea, the South China Sea nearby. Actually, the whole Pacific Ocean .... and .... nothing?
            Necessarily through the North Pole and the territory of the Russian Federation? ))))
            1. mvg
              0
              16 February 2021 22: 14
              And to launch ICBMs from the sub-blocks, in any way across China?

              The United States has 14 strategic nuclear submarines, the basis of their strategic nuclear forces, but on BD 5-6 nuclear submarines, rather even less. So Minutemans are an essential part of the strategic nuclear forces. And they are cheaper than Trident-D5 and they need to be changed. So in the DPRK I would shoot Minutemans, if that
              1. +5
                16 February 2021 22: 43
                The United States has 14 strategic nuclear submarines, the basis of their strategic nuclear forces, but on BD 5-6 nuclear submarines, rather even less.

                Yeah, and that's why they're not using them? ))) Evona as)))
                But they did not think that the Russian Federation could intercept most of the missiles over its territory.
                In addition, any actions by America with the use of nuclear weapons against other countries will instantly destroy nuclear parity with the Russian Federation, roughly speaking, the Russian Federation will have a huge advantage in nuclear weapons.
                1. mvg
                  -14
                  16 February 2021 22: 57
                  But they did not think that the Russian Federation could intercept most of the missiles over its territory

                  Not funny ... not much. Not a single one, only if they themselves fall. wassat It's just ... I'm in a mild shock.
                  PS: How are we going to shoot down? You can't get it with a slingshot.
                  1. +4
                    16 February 2021 23: 20
                    Not funny ... not much. Not a single one, only if they themselves fall. wassat Just uzhos ... I'm in a light shock.
                    PS: How are we going to shoot down? You can't get it with a slingshot.

                    According to the numerous requests of the workers of China, the A-235 can also be placed there. I think China agrees to pay for its safety)))
                    1. mvg
                      -9
                      17 February 2021 01: 44
                      there you can place and A-235

                      There is no missile defense system in the world capable of shooting down ICBMs, especially with MIRVs and false targets. Single monoblock, perhaps .. and even then, not a fact.
                      PS: The PRC is the most adapted country for a nuclear war. Underground cities in rock formations for 100-500 thousand inhabitants. Well, the Chukchi will sit out in the permafrost with dried venison.
                      1. +6
                        17 February 2021 02: 51
                        Where are the Chukchi and where is China? Geographer damn crying
                        And yes, the Chukchi do not eat venison at all, their basis is sea fishing, a cook wassat
                        And more details about underground cities, please
                2. +4
                  16 February 2021 23: 06
                  But they did not think that the Russian Federation could intercept most of the missiles over its territory
                  Can not. Because this will be the middle of the trajectory. Ballistic trajectory. This means that the rockets will be near the highest point, that is, strongly in space.
                  But the moments of launch will be tracked and our strategic nuclear forces will already be practicing a counter-strike. Because maybe it flies to China, or maybe not to China. And time is running out.
                  What the American authors are hinting about.
                  1. +5
                    16 February 2021 23: 21
                    Can not. Because this will be the middle of the trajectory. Ballistic trajectory. This means that the rockets will be near the highest point, that is, strongly in space.

                    And -235 will get it)))
                    1. +2
                      17 February 2021 07: 29
                      And -235 will get it)))
                      If the adversary runs in the direction of the European part of the country - no doubt. Now answer yourself the following questions:
                      1. Range of destruction by anti-missiles in height?
                      2. Areas of deployment and coverage of the territory of the Russian Federation?
                      3. Location of possible routes of the Minuteman overflight relative to the A-235 deployment locations?
                      Let me remind you, we are talking about a hypothetical strike at China through the pole?
                      In this case, the grandiose interception of the entire "salvo" will not come from the word at all. But there will be a counter-strike.
                      1. +2
                        17 February 2021 10: 27
                        Now answer yourself the following questions:
                        1. Range of destruction by anti-missiles in height?

                        750 km in height)))
                      2. 0
                        18 February 2021 07: 56
                        Soooo ... One point was answered ... It remains to answer the rest and put them together.
                      3. +1
                        18 February 2021 08: 17
                        Soooo ... One point was answered ... It remains to answer the rest and put them together.

                        Are you really bad at reading? Re
                        According to the numerous requests of the workers of China, the A-235 can also be placed there. I think China is willing to pay for its safety
                      4. 0
                        18 February 2021 11: 50
                        According to the numerous requests of the workers of China, the A-235 can also be placed there. I think China is willing to pay for its safety
                        Where is the droushka?
                      5. +1
                        18 February 2021 12: 01
                        Where is the droushka?

                        Assumptions, dear, are just assumptions.
                  2. -2
                    16 February 2021 23: 36
                    Already the initial section of a ballistic missile can determine the place of fall
                    1. +2
                      17 February 2021 07: 27
                      Quote: Avior
                      Already the initial section of a ballistic missile can determine the place of fall

                      is not a fact.
                      1. +3
                        17 February 2021 08: 07
                        Exactly - not, but approximately - quite
                        Even when separating blocks
                        Ballistic trajectory still imposes restrictions
                    2. +2
                      17 February 2021 07: 33
                      Already the initial section of a ballistic missile can determine the place of fall
                      Already at the initial stage of a massive launch, the early warning system will put everything and everyone on the ears. And there will be no time for such subtleties. For while we are guessing "whether yes or no", the warheads are flying. And they fly at that stage in our direction.
                      1. +1
                        17 February 2021 08: 09
                        Surely simultaneously with the launches there will be a warning indicating where they fired
                        And guessing there is easy - there will be no missiles in the European part
                      2. +1
                        17 February 2021 08: 38
                        Surely simultaneously with the launches there will be a warning indicating where they fired
                        At the moment, it's easy. However, we are talking about a possible future. And how distant it is is unclear. Therefore, sooner or later the United States will also develop analogs of our maneuvering Vanguards. And here is yours
                        it is not difficult to guess there - there will be no missiles in the area of ​​the European part
                        will become completely optimistic.
                        I foresee your answer along the lines of: "Well, in this bright future we will cover 100% of the territory with a missile defense system." It's just too expensive. Even for a brighter future.
                      3. 0
                        17 February 2021 17: 29
                        Yeah, do not be afraid, we are not for you ..... Well, laugh, probably still wait - to check the pridet? Then the account will go for minutes. And kirdyk America .. mad Max part 5
                3. 0
                  18 February 2021 15: 18
                  Finally, a sober look ..
            2. 0
              17 February 2021 06: 27
              Quote: lucul
              And to launch ICBMs from the sub-blocks, in any way across China?

              And what has to do with the submarines, if the future fate of the Minutemans is being discussed.
              One of the arguments against keeping them in service is precisely the inability to strike other countries except Russia. And from Russia you can grab it yourself, so it turns out that they are not very much needed.
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        4. +4
          16 February 2021 22: 23
          I can't understand why they must necessarily fly OVER the territory of Russia? Are they going to launch them from Europe and Alaska? )))
          But what about the ICBM missiles on American submarines?

          Well, submarines are just one of the parts of a nuclear tiad, with a massive strike it is necessary to inflict maximum damage so that the enemy has as little strength as possible to respond. Therefore, we must hit everyone at once. And to use only submarines means to reduce the impact potential by three times. Submarines alone may be enough for North Korea, but in the case of China, it will not be enough.
          1. +2
            16 February 2021 22: 40
            Well, submarines are just one of the parts of a nuclear tiad, with a massive strike it is necessary to inflict maximum damage so that the enemy has as little strength as possible to respond. Therefore, we must hit everyone at once.

            Yeah, and thereby immediately zero out your nuclear potential)))
            Ie, they shot in China and became completely defenseless against the Russian Federation)))
            In addition, launching through the North Pole is not the best solution - the Russian Federation can intercept the lion's share of missiles over its territory, and very little will reach China.
            Something is unclean with the American submarines ...
            1. +1
              16 February 2021 23: 10
              Russia can intercept the lion's share of missiles over its territory
              Can not. Because:
              1. Our missile defense does not cover the entire territory. Not even the entire European part. For it is very expensive.
              2. Rockets fly on a ballistic rather than flat trajectory. In a hypothetical strike at China through the pole, the attacking missiles will be at the top of the trajectory. Moreover (see item 1) over the most sparsely populated part of the country, where there is nothing to shoot down.
          2. +1
            16 February 2021 23: 16
            How many is there in Ohio? 24, like a tridenum, and almost 200 warheads of 470 kt each. For North Korea, and half a submarine is enough)))
        5. +1
          16 February 2021 23: 42
          Quote: lucul
          I can't understand why they must necessarily fly OVER the territory of Russia? Are they going to launch them from Europe and Alaska? )))

          1. 0
            17 February 2021 08: 42
            You are looking at the wrong card. On this map, the circumpolar regions are heavily distorted due to the selected map projection. Look at the globe.
            1. 0
              17 February 2021 08: 44
              take a close look at the trajectory
              1. -1
                17 February 2021 08: 49
                take a close look at the trajectory
                I repeat - look carefully at the globe. Besides, the Far East is like our territory. There is a population, industry, a whole military district.
                1. 0
                  17 February 2021 11: 14
                  especially for those who are in an armored train and who have poor eyesight Yandex and Google on the maps show the path, taking into account the laying of this on the surface of the sphere, or that it is not visible that the line is not straight, but in an arc
                  1. -1
                    18 February 2021 08: 01
                    Okay ... Now, let me give you a hint, since you guessed it yourself: lay a route from the Minuteman bases, and not from the point closest to China on the US coast. Otherwise, you can count from Hawaii. Or from Guam. Minutemans, as it were, mine-based. And not on a wheeled-horse or steamship chassis.
                    1. 0
                      18 February 2021 08: 14
                      once again especially for you, an even larger route will pass through the territory of the Russian Federation
                      I indicated the shortest route, from the east coast the route will go through the arctic and further
                      1. 0
                        18 February 2021 11: 49
                        once again especially for you, an even larger route will pass through the territory of the Russian Federation
                        I indicated the shortest route, from the east coast the route will go through the arctic and further
                        Um ... we swami some misunderstanding happened. Because I also point out that the route passes through the Arctic and the territory of the Russian Federation. If offended - I apologize hi
        6. +10
          17 February 2021 00: 08
          There may be inaccuracies in translation. Korea is geographically located in the underbelly of both Russia and China. Whichever side of Korea is slung from, the missiles will fly towards either Russia or China or towards both. Neither China nor Russia will wait and find out anything. They will fire a reply.
      2. nnm
        +14
        16 February 2021 19: 23
        I only wonder what it means
        ...
        attempt...

        This is, in general, how? Like "oh, cancellation, cancellation, we changed our mind! It's not counting!"? Or how?

        Well, if the button is "pressed", then that's it, we are preparing stakes and stones, there is no more civilization. Both our and the American system of guaranteed response will launch a complete algorithm of actions for any significant blow. And there is no need to indulge yourself in the USA with verbiage, the search for beautiful and less terrible synonyms. There will be no light or limited edition. Therefore, one must be aware of, bringing the world to the catastrophe and hoping to survive it overseas, that this distance is no longer a guarantee of the survival of the Stars and Stripes provocateurs. And there will be no umbrella, no guaranteed pro, soy, etc. ...
        ... but we will at least go to heaven.
        1. +6
          16 February 2021 19: 36
          Quote: nnm
          I only wonder what it means
          ...
          attempt...

          This is, in general, how? Like "oh, cancellation, cancellation, we changed our mind! It's not counting!"? Or how?

          Well, if the button is "pressed", then that's it, we are preparing stakes and stones, there is no more civilization. Both our and the American system of guaranteed response will launch a complete algorithm of actions for any significant blow. And there is no need to indulge yourself in the USA with verbiage, the search for beautiful and less terrible synonyms. There will be no light or limited edition. Therefore, one must be aware of, bringing the world to the catastrophe and hoping to survive it overseas, that this distance is no longer a guarantee of the survival of the Stars and Stripes provocateurs. And there will be no umbrella, no guaranteed pro, soy, etc. ...
          ... but we will at least go to heaven.

          My colleague completely agrees with you, our sworn partners must understand exactly that there will be no overload, only total destruction after the first sneeze.
          What's the most important thing about a tank?
          - The most important thing in a tank is not to fart.
          1. +1
            16 February 2021 19: 57
            Quote: Bearded
            - The most important thing in a tank is not to fart

            Is it possible on a submarine? lol
            1. +2
              16 February 2021 22: 57
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Quote: Bearded
              - The most important thing in a tank is not to fart

              Is it possible on a submarine? lol

              The submarine has regenerating cartridges.
              1. +5
                16 February 2021 23: 11
                Is it possible on a submarine? lol

                The submarine has regenerating cartridges.
                And sealed compartments
            2. +5
              17 February 2021 02: 16
              Once on the bastion, in the silence of the night
              At the post of the fourth company, a sentry farted.
              The non-commissioned officer heard on the phone
              And he recognized in this sound the damage to the atmosphere.
              You, soldier, screams, brute, you are all bad people.
              Who gave you this right to spoil oxygen ??
              He ordered the sentry to be immediately removed from his post.
              He passed a severe sentence to him: "Shoot !!!"
              But the lieutenant intervened here: “You don’t dare to shoot!
              Does the charter say that you can't fart ?!
              "Since then on the bastion one can hear a mile away,
              How all the sentries fart while on duty.

              Inspired by .....
        2. +6
          16 February 2021 19: 49
          By the way, you are right, but if all the forests burn down, then there will be nothing to do with spears and bows, I'm not talking about slingshots ("And where can I get rubber for all? This means unemployment" (c).
        3. -12
          16 February 2021 20: 12
          Yes, there will be no total destruction, but the ball will spoil badly, but even the counter exchange of 1550 warheads will not stop even the war.
        4. 0
          16 February 2021 23: 38
          In addition to the USA and Russia, civilization exists in many places
      3. -10
        16 February 2021 19: 24
        But there’s a small nuance, there will be no such official statement, because then the downing of an airplane of the Russian Federation outside its borders would mean the need to "burn Topol" or lose face, and this is usually not allowed by sane politicians.
      4. +1
        16 February 2021 19: 32
        "The whole world is in dust, but then." (c) Rabid ensign))
        With the tongue removed))
        1. -4
          16 February 2021 19: 58
          Quote: Nikon OConor
          With the tongue removed))

          Ensign? belay lol
          1. 0
            16 February 2021 19: 59
            Well, at least with him)))
            1. -5
              16 February 2021 20: 00
              Quote: Nikon OConor
              Well, at least with him)))

              Not injured? laughing
    2. +2
      16 February 2021 18: 28
      extend the service life of the Minuteman ICBM.
      Yes. And it will be very good.)
      1. +10
        16 February 2021 18: 46
        Quote: hirurg
        extend the service life of the Minuteman ICBM.
        Yes. And it will be very good.)

        I have a feeling that the American couple of authors wrote this article at the request of the manufacturers of ICBMs. It is quite an understandable move for "maintaining the pants" - from the beginning to intimidate with a mythical threat, and then to give practical advice on budgetary financing of a specific product.
        Everything is like everyone else and nothing new.
        1. -3
          16 February 2021 19: 59
          Quote: credo
          I have a feeling that the American couple of authors of the article wrote it at the request of the manufacturers of ICBMs.

          Yes, quite possible
        2. -10
          16 February 2021 20: 14
          On the contrary, these, like the local left-liberals, want to redirect part of the budget of the Ministry of Defense for cutting civilian state employees.
        3. 0
          16 February 2021 22: 19
          Quote: credo
          an American couple of article authors wrote it at the request of ICBM manufacturers. ... intimidate with a mythical threat

          These authors clearly visit the VO website. It is worth reading the numerous calls from local commentators to hit everyone who disagrees with them with vigorous loaves, and here it is a ready-made threat. lol
      2. -13
        16 February 2021 19: 26
        They are unlikely to go for it, since they are unlikely to be able to guarantee the reliability of the equipment, and this is fraught with the security of their own country even in completely peaceful times. The Minuteman is a good rocket, but its time is coming.
      3. +2
        17 February 2021 03: 21
        extend the service life of ICBM Minuteman
        And what will the American military-industrial complex use to cut the budget? request... Disorder laughing
    3. +5
      16 February 2021 19: 19
      And also Russia is the only country that America would not resist at all, if she herself did not climb to us all the time!
      1. +2
        16 February 2021 19: 32
        Well, they love us))
        1. -12
          16 February 2021 19: 59
          So you love them.
          1. +11
            16 February 2021 20: 03
            We are a normal state, but we treat non-traditional countries with disgust and try to stay away! laughing
            1. -12
              16 February 2021 20: 16
              Yes, but judging by the posts on VO and not only, many are ready to overcome their disgust, and then you can put two fingers in your mouth ... well, so as not to feel sick for a long time. wink
              1. +5
                16 February 2021 20: 18
                So this is a virtual world - here and offended Americans write pretending to be Russians - because they are offended that we are a healthy state! And offended Ukrainians, because they were told by offended Americans, Georgians no less offended, Poles, Balts ... What a marvel! Envy is the lot of the offended!
                1. -11
                  16 February 2021 20: 26
                  Are you sure that Americans are offended for what kind of state you are in their eyes? In addition, their eyes are different, just like yours. People are all different.
                  Posing as Russians, Americans here, if not mentally ill, will not write. But ethnic Russians from America certainly can. Why not then?
                  1. +9
                    16 February 2021 20: 40
                    I am sure of one thing, that the Anglo-Saxons are the Ecumenical evil, the devil's chosen people! Whoever worships them no longer has their own national identity - they are just sectarians ... A bit metaphorical, but historically fair in their actions! And the average American, of course, does not perceive himself as an adherent of the devil - but he is part of a swarm, which in its entirety acts for the good of Satan! For world balance, God created the Russian nation by placing it in the shell of the Orthodox faith, clearly, even by faith, dividing two opposing worlds - the Protestant, Catholic world of the Anglo-Saxons and the Orthodox world of the Slavs! The former have arrogance, pragmatism, cynicism ... qualities bestowed by the devil, hence the colonial aggressive policy, enslavement of peoples, nuclear bombs on the heads of peaceful people, color revolutions ... And the spiritual Russian world, naive, self-sacrificing, merciful ... Forgiving! But compensated by huge territories with unknown wealth .... and not very compliant people! Which, of course, makes the pragmatic Anglo-Saxons very angry! And this confrontation will naturally continue forever or burn out in a fiery hyena of a nuclear war - we will go to heaven, and the Anglo-Saxons to hell ... That's the whole difference! Why not?
                    1. -7
                      17 February 2021 02: 10
                      Well, how can I tell you why, firstly, because if you believe in all this the way you wrote it, then you are not too different from what you wrote yourself, only with the opposite sign and several differences in beliefs associated with upbringing and cultural and historical features of traditions, but not essential. It is enough to slightly correct some of the proposals and you get the look of your antipode at you, with a decent percentage of reliability.
                2. +4
                  16 February 2021 20: 38
                  Quote: Finches
                  What a marvel! Envy is the lot of the offended!

                  One thing I want to tell them, "Lord breathe deeper, chew Coca Cola and drink gum - it will feel better."
                3. +3
                  16 February 2021 20: 51
                  I agree with you 1000 percent!
                4. -7
                  17 February 2021 02: 20
                  PS I see you finished your post. How many other nationalities do you have on the list of offended children of the devil? How are the French? Scandinavians how? Do you write Russians as a nationality with a capital letter or only children of the devil?
        2. +3
          16 February 2021 20: 25
          Quote: Alien From
          Well, they love us))

          Rather love. From the word splint. hi
        3. +5
          16 February 2021 21: 36
          Quote: Alien From
          Well, they love us))

          But, we are interesting to them, to horror winked
          1. +3
            16 February 2021 21: 43
            The realm of the vulgar rainbow colors is beyond my comprehension. They want to pound, let them pound!
      2. -14
        16 February 2021 20: 02
        Undoubtedly, she resisted, the political, economic and cultural confrontation was not overcome mutually. In addition, it was fueled by military clashes in other countries where the above interests of the Russian Federation, the United States and, accordingly, their allies collide.
    4. +1
      17 February 2021 19: 18
      The Biden administration would do well to learn geography! request
      Missiles don't have to fly through our territory! fool soldier
  2. +8
    16 February 2021 18: 21
    Do not act and there will be no attempts!
    1. +3
      16 February 2021 18: 35
      I'm drinking today. And with every glass, the desire to bang only increases. I respect my grandfather, the commander of a bomber regiment. But claims are piling up: he bombed a little. Why didn't he carry out carpet bombing on Euro-fascist cities? Why didn't he destroy the Euro-fascist nations? All that is holy is holy. Grandfather knew better. And to whom to finish off? I have no sons. And no money. Medvedev has the money. But he won't fight.
      1. +7
        16 February 2021 19: 34
        Take care of yourself) an illiterate drunkard leads to a long binge! stop
        1. +4
          16 February 2021 20: 03
          Quote: Alien From
          Take care of yourself) an illiterate drunkard leads to a long binge! stop

          I am a Muscovite, I served in Siberia.
          But I'm not afraid of Siberia.
          Siberia is also the Russian Land.
          From under the cap, the forelock curls.
          And so the forelock curls in the wind ... (C)
      2. +4
        16 February 2021 19: 36
        Claims .... Grandfather, his tank corps, were the first to enter Berlin. Maybe it was necessary to crushed it with tanks ... and then forget that it was ...
        1. +4
          16 February 2021 19: 38
          I understand that there is no way the city can be dumped into rubble with tanks ... but I want to ...))
        2. -6
          16 February 2021 19: 55
          It's strange, my grandfather stormed Prague, and my cousin, on the other hand, is the same Berlin, but for some reason I don't see the total genocide of the Germans, although I personally have enough theoretical reasons for one Drobitsky Yar.
          1. +5
            16 February 2021 20: 03
            We Russians are merciful. Genocide is not acceptable to us in principle. I, personally, consider the Germans the most worthy nation in Western Europe.
            It just rolls sometimes ... it happens ...
            Sorry.
            1. -6
              16 February 2021 20: 21
              I understand that I myself sometimes react inadequately when I look at a photo from Yad Vashem, but then I pull myself together, I must not allow an external monkey to take over the person inside.
            2. +2
              16 February 2021 22: 48
              Quote: Nikon OConor
              We Russians are merciful. Genocide is not acceptable to us in principle. I, personally, consider the Germans the most worthy nation in Western Europe.
              It just rolls sometimes ... it happens ...
              Sorry.

              You just don't know how the Hungarians adore near Voronezh or the Romanians in Odessa.
          2. +1
            16 February 2021 22: 47
            Quote: ironic
            It's strange, my grandfather stormed Prague, and my cousin, on the other hand, is the same Berlin, but for some reason I don't see the total genocide of the Germans, although I personally have enough theoretical reasons for one Drobitsky Yar.

            My grandmother's three brothers were killed at the front. How many second cousins ​​have I lost? About ten people, no less
            1. -6
              17 February 2021 01: 25
              One of my great-uncles was burnt in a tank in the Belarusian operation, his grandparents were buried in Drobitskoye just alive, another great-uncle buried his wife in the blockade, another grandfather was left without an arm. The rest of the grandfathers and their siblings went through the entire war until the Victory. And yes, one of the grandfathers (the brother of the deceased) was miraculously not killed by an SS officer right on Victory Day, he was kantuzi with a bullet in the forehead tangentially. Do you think any of us justified these losses if we began to take revenge on civilians? My grandfather, well, that grandmother and grandfather were buried alive, until the end of his days he refused to buy German washing machines in Israel and take a taxi of Deutsche Marks, I can understand that, but to mow people down out of revenge .. well, if you only lose your mind.
        3. 0
          16 February 2021 20: 05
          Quote: Nikon OConor
          Claims .... Grandfather, his tank corps, were the first to enter Berlin. Maybe it was necessary to crushed it with tanks ... and then forget that it was ...

          And so it had to be done. All to dust. Did they feel sorry for our children a lot? The enemy must be destroyed at the root.
          1. +8
            16 February 2021 20: 08
            Could you ... a child? A girl? Old Man / Old Woman? I am not ..... And you are not ....
            We are Russians...
            1. +3
              16 February 2021 22: 45
              Quote: Nikon OConor
              Could you ... a child? A girl? Old Man / Old Woman? I am not ..... And you are not ....
              We are Russians...

              Who knows? Hitler's European Union members came to kill my grandfathers and grandmothers, Napoleon's European fascists came to kill my great-great-great-grandfathers and grandmothers. And there were also Karl the Twelfth and Sigismund. Do not European barbarians too often want to kill the Russian Byzantines without exception? Maybe at the next attack of the European Union fascists we should cut it out from under the root? So that our grandchildren are not afraid of extermination?
              If my grandfather and his regiment bombed European cities with carpet bombing, like the Americans, now we would not be threatened by all sorts of Poles, Czechs, Romanians, Hungarians, Germans and other Euro-fascists. Killing the weak is not for the Russians. But our children and grandchildren are also weak. Until they become like us. And we are weaker than our grandfathers. By killing all European fascists, young and old, we will forever get rid of the thousand-year threat from the West.
              Are we now threatening the West or the Japanese? We are peaceful people, but our armored train is on a side track.
              If there is a war that our enemies are striving for, they should know that it will lead to the complete destruction of their peoples. And our descendants will read about their extermination in history books.
              Whoever comes to us with a sword will shout and receive.
              1. -9
                17 February 2021 01: 51
                Who knows? - Well, now those who have read know that there are people of the type who condemn Nazism, but who themselves differ little in essence from the Nazi paradigm. And Nazism in retaliation for Nazism does not become less Nazism from this.

                /// Having killed all the European fascists, young and old ... /// - It's your luck that you haven't been sent to jail for such public statements.
              2. 0
                17 February 2021 07: 32
                Here it is, the Russian character
          2. -8
            16 February 2021 20: 19
            True? Genocide of the population at the root? Would you like to eat too? Why should fresh meat go to waste?
      3. -7
        16 February 2021 19: 53
        You just have a snack, otherwise you have more blood than you want alcohol. This usually ends in domestic accidents. Globally, nothing will suffer, but local damage is possible.
  3. +7
    16 February 2021 18: 22
    So don't forget about it. And don't annoy.
    1. +5
      16 February 2021 18: 29
      Quote: Captive
      And don't annoy.

      And don't provoke
      1. +1
        16 February 2021 19: 11
        These comrades money from the budget is not worse than ours.
        1. -6
          16 February 2021 19: 12
          recourse What's in the budget and what's not worse?
          1. 0
            16 February 2021 19: 18
            Money, only money for "renewal")
            1. -9
              16 February 2021 19: 50
              These guys just want money for something else from the budget, so they are trying to lobby for a cheaper update than a more expensive replacement.
      2. -9
        16 February 2021 19: 29
        Provocations were, are and will be. This is a given.
        1. +1
          16 February 2021 19: 40
          Quote: ironic
          Provocations have been, are and will be.

          So this is their bread
          1. -11
            16 February 2021 19: 44
            This is the bread of politics of any sufficiently militarized country, and the Russian Federation is also no exception to this rule.
            1. +2
              16 February 2021 19: 47
              Quote: ironic
              and the Russian Federation is also no exception to this rule.

              So who are we provoking?
              1. -12
                16 February 2021 19: 49
                Vizde where you are sufficiently present. This is one of the forms of probing a potential enemy.
                1. +4
                  16 February 2021 20: 02
                  Quote: ironic
                  Vizde where you are sufficiently present.

                  Oh how.
                  We have bases all over the world?
                  1. -9
                    16 February 2021 20: 30
                    No, not at all. You have only a few external ones, the main ones in Syria. You can consider Kaliningrad and Crimea as limited external ones, but you don't really need everything, you are very big.
                    1. +5
                      16 February 2021 20: 43
                      major in Syria.

                      And how many are there?
                      Kaliningrad, Crimea,

                      We're kind of talking about bases abroad, in other states
                      , but you don't need everything, you are very big.

                      Are the zaluzhniki so dwarf that they have scattered bases all over the world?
                      1. -9
                        16 February 2021 20: 58
                        Two.

                        Therefore, I wrote limitedly external ones, since Kaliningrad is separated territorially from the main territory of the Russian Federation, and Crimea is de facto annexed to the territory of the Russian Federation.

                        They are relatively smaller and have no land access to Europe.
                      2. +1
                        16 February 2021 21: 05
                        Quote: ironic
                        , and Crimea is de facto annexed to the territory of the Russian Federation.

                        De facto it is the territory of Russia.
                        Even children know that

                        They are comparatively smaller and do not have a land access to Europe.

                        And what should they do in Europe?
                        In Japan, Korea, etc. base, also for access to Europe?
                        since Kaliningrad is separated territorially from the main territory of the Russian Federation

                        Is Alaska not separated?
                      3. -7
                        17 February 2021 01: 45
                        De facto, it is attached to the territory of Russia, I did not make a reservation. Children know what they are being taught.

                        In Europe they have to cooperate with their allies. Japan and Korea are also their military allies and they do not have a land connection with them.

                        Alaska is separated, but between Alaska and the United States is the territory of a union country.
    2. -9
      16 February 2021 19: 29
      This is from the realm of science fiction in modern politics and its realities.
  4. +5
    16 February 2021 18: 23
    Russia is the only country in the world that can attempt a massive nuclear attack on the United States.

    This is an absolutely correct conclusion, and it's good that the Americans understand this - that means we are guaranteed a peaceful sky. Well, for our mitrofanushkas, who are discussing what place Russia occupies in the world, these words are like a bone in the throat, because this statement is a recognition that Russia is the number 1 country in the world.
    1. -1
      16 February 2021 18: 30
      Quote: ccsr
      and it's good that Americans understand this

      Fingers on one hand will be enough to count those who understand
      1. +1
        16 February 2021 18: 57
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Fingers on one hand will be enough to count those who understand

        The main thing is that it is those who make decisions in their White House. And we don't care about the opinions of others - the main quality of the pieces on the "chessboard".
        1. -1
          16 February 2021 19: 00
          Quote: ccsr
          the main quality of the pieces on the "chessboard".

          So the figures of a different color and dignity in the Fashington Regional Committee sat down
          And in the white house their puppets
          1. -8
            16 February 2021 20: 32
            Ksati, according to international standards, an unproven accusation of fascism is a criminal offense.
            1. +2
              16 February 2021 20: 46
              Quote: ironic
              Ksati, according to international standards, an unproven accusation of fascism is a criminal offense.

              Slander too.
              Where did I write about fascism in my post?
              Show this "right" and where is it spelled out?
              1. -7
                16 February 2021 21: 02
                /// the Fashington Regional Committee /// - Try to say this being in any country in Europe so that they understand it in their language and I assure you that they will quickly acquaint you with this right.
                1. +2
                  16 February 2021 21: 11
                  Quote: ironic
                  /// Fashington Regional Committee /// -

                  So they openly support fascism in the outskirts and do not hide it
                  Try to say this being in any country in Europe

                  Name at least one country where this is legally enshrined
                  1. -8
                    17 February 2021 01: 32
                    In Ukraine? There are people there who want revenge and restoration of the memory of collaborators. But this is not the official support of fascism as an ideology by the country of Ukraine.

                    Germany.
                    1. 0
                      19 February 2021 23: 05
                      Quote: ironic
                      In Ukraine?

                      In Ukraine. Learn to speak Russian correctly. You are in the Russian-language forum, not in the Lviv brothel.
                      1. -1
                        20 February 2021 20: 18
                        I am not Russian and for me this language has not been the main one for a long time, I am forgiven. In addition, go figure it out in the Lviv brothel, or, for example, in the still most Russian-speaking city of Ukraine - Kharkov. wink
            2. +3
              16 February 2021 21: 06
              Quote: ironic
              Ksati, according to international standards,

              There is no need to lie - there are no international norms, and American law is outside the jurisdiction of international organizations.
              1. -8
                17 February 2021 01: 40
                Correctly, you do not need to lie twice that there are no such norms and lie that I am lying. American legislation is above the jurisdiction of international organizations, yes, but Russian legislation too. I advise you to try to come not even to America, to Canada and explain to the policeman that their neighbors are fascinctons, and they are the keepers of Banderlog, if you can, of course, correctly convey the idea in English. I promise you, you will never dare to repeat this there in your life, although no, you will never be able to repeat it at all, and they will not let you in there again, as soon as you get out of prison. And this is not an assumption, but a strict confidence.
                1. 0
                  17 February 2021 11: 24
                  Quote: ironic
                  I advise you to try

                  You will advise your grandmother, and it is unlikely that anyone here will listen to the advice of a citizen of Israel - we have a different mentality, and you still do not understand this.
                  Quote: ironic
                  I promise you

                  You will promise your wife, but your promises to me are not too much - you will immediately give them up, as soon as you are caught in a lie.
                  Quote: ironic
                  And this is not an assumption, but a strict certainty.

                  Isn't your name Moses by chance?
                  1. -1
                    17 February 2021 11: 37
                    Do not be rude, you are not in the company of drunken companions, but on a publicly accessible forum site. Here, opinions are expressed and advised. What will you do? Read my advice, you won't go anywhere. Have you read it? So why are you showing off? Smart people listen, if they do not agree, they argue, the stupid show off and are rude. Give for yourself, yes, you personally have a different mentality, this is trivial to understand, but it does not follow at all that your opuses do not have the status of immortals and are overshadowed by the 80th level of immunity.

                    I will be there for you too, if I deem it necessary and will read it again, that's why you come here. And what is wrong? It's like that. They would have been unresponsive to the light bulb, and once you answer, you are not up to the light bulb. You don't really need to be caught in a lie, but it doesn't bother you.

                    My name is Alexander, which you can read about without bothering too much, but in one topic you have already been called an ensign, in the appropriate connotation and, apparently, for you this is an iconic name.
                    1. 0
                      17 February 2021 12: 00
                      Quote: ironic
                      Here, opinions are expressed and advised.

                      And on this basis, you decided that any loser from Israel can advise me something? It is rightly said that the main trouble of the Jews is that each of them considers himself smarter than all the others. You are clearly in this category.
                      Quote: ironic
                      I will be there for you too, if I deem it necessary and will read it again, that's what you come here for. And what is wrong?

                      The fact that you are simply ridiculous with your bombast - learn from Privalov, he has been writing here for a long time and a more adequate Israeli.
                      Quote: ironic
                      My name is Alexander,

                      You didn't even catch the irony, and you also decided to teach us ...
                      1. 0
                        17 February 2021 12: 29
                        On this basis, I decided that a boor like you deserves advice expressed in the appropriate form and will not go anywhere to read it. Your personal trouble is that you are personally so stupid and see the trouble of your personal stupidity in the presence of Jews out there somewhere smarter than you. This is an inferiority complex. Either fight him, or humble yourself, because otherwise you will be with you for the rest of your life and all you need to be happy is to find yourself somewhere out there a Jew (there are almost no people of your own) and explain your problems with your sinful sins ... As for my modest achievements, what is a loss for me, an achievement for you, and then it is questionable whether you will reach the level of my losses in this life, and I mean not only material ones. They say if Gd Gd wants to punish a person, the first thing he does is draw a line over his head. Nothing, the Krishnaites say in the next life you will try again.

                        And you, with your trivial bazaar rudeness, are not only not funny, but boring and extremely sad. Privalov is what he is, and I am what I am. You do not know what adequacy is, you yourself do not even have a close relationship to this word.

                        I caught your stigmatic attempts at irony, and since it cannot be called in any way other than attempts, I answered you with a hint of what your attempts are worth.
                      2. 0
                        17 February 2021 12: 37
                        Quote: ironic
                        On this basis, I decided that a boor like you deserves advice expressed in the appropriate form and will not go anywhere to read it.

                        You would rather give the Israelis advice - perhaps you would be considered smart there, but in our Russian-language forum you are just another clown. But because of your cunning you cannot understand this either, and you boast of your "intelligence". Therefore, no one in Russia regrets that people like you left - the road is like a tablecloth. Just do not tell me that you were oppressed here and you suffered from anti-Semitism - against the background of the Forbes list, it looks like the sobbing of a loser.
                      3. -1
                        17 February 2021 13: 52
                        I give advice to whomever I deem necessary and when I deem it necessary. You will not be considered smart, you have already worked on this enough. What kind of clown you are here, you can well understand by the nickname you earned as a warrant officer. You cannot understand anything at all, but this does not bother you.
                        No one? Did you interview all 140 million? What is not? I thought so.
                        Are you not sorry? Pts well, if someone like you regretted it would be offensive, but this is even a compliment.
                        Undoubtedly, I experienced both anti-Semitism and an attitude inadequate to my abilities and was robbed by the Soviet Union to the bone upon departure. It doesn't even really need to be proved, because it's transparent, like crystal. But I do not automatically transfer this either to Russia, as a present-day country, or to Russians as a whole, as an ethnic group. And here is your appeal to Forbes against the background of the growth rate in this list of ethnic representatives of your country, as if in your face it looks like the sobbing of a loser. Although why how, it could be said about you after reading just a few of your opuses, of which the rogue, offended by both people and life and intellect, are so rushing.
                2. 0
                  19 February 2021 23: 09
                  Quote: ironic
                  I advise you to try to come not even to America, to Canada and explain to the policeman that their neighbors are fascinctons, and they are the keepers of Banderlog,

                  That is why the descendants of the unfinished Banderaites, war criminals who escaped Nuremberg, feel so at ease now in Canada.
                  1. -1
                    20 February 2021 20: 16
                    Someone, yes, and there are enough anti-Semites among them, but making generalizations is prohibited by law and is correct.
        2. -8
          16 February 2021 19: 47
          In vain, you consider the opinion of the most armed of potential opponents the most dangerous, as a rule, problems begin at the level of a pot-bellied little thing, and then they reach the universal intensity.
        3. +1
          17 February 2021 03: 34
          So so hope, looking at the head of the White House with his team of "bad guys"
      2. -9
        16 February 2021 19: 31
        Strange, but it seemed to me that the captains were much more obvious in the world.
        1. 0
          16 February 2021 19: 41
          Quote: ironic
          there is much more in the world.

          There may be in the world, but not behind a puddle
          1. -10
            16 February 2021 20: 53
            You were there? Checked?
            1. 0
              16 February 2021 21: 12
              Quote: ironic
              You were there? Checked?

              Who?
              1. -8
                17 February 2021 01: 28
                Their. Behind a puddle.
    2. -10
      16 February 2021 19: 30
      Well, in this the authors were the captains of the obvious.
  5. 0
    16 February 2021 18: 24
    If this is the case, you need to bribe someone and fill Russia with chicken thighs.
  6. +8
    16 February 2021 18: 26
    They draw an original conclusion ... To defeat China, it is necessary to destroy Russia ... Naturally. It's hard to be the main bully when you know for sure that there is a sambist in the yard who is capable of "bending your sled" at any moment ... It's a shame to tears ...
    It is weak to go to direct confrontation, so they will dig a tunnel ...
    1. +3
      16 February 2021 19: 09
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      They draw an original conclusion ... To defeat China, it is necessary to destroy Russia ... Naturally. It's hard to be the main bully when you know for sure that there is a sambist in the yard who is capable of "bending your sled" at any moment ... It's a shame to tears ...

      Hmm. But, along the way, they thus lull the vigilance of China, they say, they have no other routes for the delivery of a vigorous warhead, except through the territory of Russia, and therefore nothing threatens the Chinese comrades and they can sleep peacefully. Raccoons are cunning Yes
      1. -3
        16 February 2021 19: 13
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Raccoons are cunning

        Only their "cunning" is sewn with white threads
        1. -8
          16 February 2021 20: 34
          This is not a trick, this is an unpretentious profanation of two not quite prepared lobbyists.
      2. +3
        16 February 2021 19: 30
        Here, too, a globe is drawn in my mind, and I absolutely do not understand why missiles to China or Korea need to be sent through Russia ??? Apart from the fact that the Pacific Ocean is full of submarines and bombers? Or do they just want to bang all the cash arsenal?
        1. +2
          16 February 2021 19: 43
          Quote: Crasher
          Here, too, a globe is drawn in my mind, and I absolutely do not understand why missiles to China or Korea need to be sent through Russia ???

          And why did they place their missile defense system in geyrope to protect the mattress from Iranian missiles?
          1. -9
            16 February 2021 20: 37
            To provide military political pressure on the Russian Federation. This is a no-brainer, and at the same time to show Iran that its development of ICBM-class missiles can be met with hostility from the European part. Well, how they grind - in one fell swoop ...
            1. -2
              16 February 2021 20: 48
              Quote: ironic
              To provide military political pressure on the Russian Federation. This is a no-brainer, and at the same time to show Iran that its development of ICBM-class missiles can be met with hostility from the European part. Well, how they grind - in one fell swoop ...

              Again freaks ... They proved to everyone, including us, that in order to protect the states
              And how can missile defense put pressure on us?
              1. -8
                16 February 2021 21: 00
                And the defensive structure is a military presence and has political significance. How, it can limit offensive capabilities.
                1. 0
                  16 February 2021 21: 13
                  Quote: ironic
                  this military presence

                  So they are there without missile defense
                  1. -6
                    17 February 2021 01: 27
                    With missile defense it is more comfortable for them to be present, this is understandable.
    2. -13
      16 February 2021 19: 32
      And where did you read this conclusion? Can you tell me where to find it in the article?
  7. +3
    16 February 2021 18: 30
    The arrows translate into quiet! Like you have nothing to eat, there is no medicine, and there will not be! And we urgently need to repaint the rackets! And voila, everything is in chocolate at the military-industrial complex!
    1. -11
      16 February 2021 19: 33
      In fact, they already have a Minuteman replacement program approved.
  8. 0
    16 February 2021 18: 31
    Hink and Pranai actually make it clear that in the event of a US nuclear war against China or the DPRK, Russia will certainly be drawn into it.

    And not to make it clear
    Straight and speak
    1. -11
      16 February 2021 19: 34
      Hypothetical reasoning, just as much loved in VO as these two.
  9. +7
    16 February 2021 18: 36
    A bit wrong, Russia is the only country that will leave the scorched desert from the striped ones, without any attempts the first time. negative
    1. -9
      16 February 2021 19: 36
      It is believed that within the framework of START III, no one can leave a completely burnt desert. 1550 charges on each side are not enough for this. The war will continue after the exchange of strategic strikes.
      1. +1
        17 February 2021 08: 35
        Are you aware that in Russian there are such expressions as - figuratively speaking, figuratively speaking? And by "scorched desert" they do not mean a continuous black field, but simply severe destruction of almost all infrastructure and the cessation of normal life. But some kind of life is possible, for example, like in Stalingrad. You cannot think so primitively that everyone will be burned to coals. hi
        1. -1
          17 February 2021 11: 48
          Well, you somehow not quite figuratively presented it, but somehow it sounded so trivial in the forehead, therefore, it was taken primitively in the forehead. So, why am I, there is an opinion that even Stalingrad will not be visible and even islands of quite working infrastructure and even resources for non-Stalingrad life will remain. Yes, it will be far from today's relatively comfortable perception of the world, but even the most necessary systems of management activities within the country will remain and continue coordinated actions. This is, of course, for any least desirable scenario of the future, but it is presented in contrast to the widespread opinion that political echelons can easily use the argument if something is wrong, everything is in dust. It is not quite so and it is clearly seen that such argumentation is having the expected impact less and less.
        2. 0
          17 February 2021 17: 50
          If the blows are supplemented by Poseidons, then a bleak prospect will definitely await the percentage of survivors.
    2. 0
      17 February 2021 09: 35
      And what will happen to Russia and its citizens ??
      It works both ways.
      1. 0
        17 February 2021 18: 41
        But who will answer you, for all the will of God and our air defense-missile defense.
        1. 0
          17 February 2021 19: 12
          all the will of God

          In such matters, such words are associated with "maybe". And there are very specific data (maps of population density and industrial centers)
          our air defense

          Which are only above Moscow.
          The answer already exists: we have a disaster, tens of millions of dead. SSBNs will be partially drowned in the sea (weakly covered), another part - at the pier (which has a static target).
          In the absence of external assistance. The war will continue with the remaining forces.
          And next to it is a whole and very strong China, which has territorial claims (restoration of the borders of the early 19th century).
          1. +1
            18 February 2021 07: 55
            Where are the firewood, that is, such information, dear? Did Shoigu personally tell you all the secrets?
            1. -1
              18 February 2021 11: 04
              All from open sources request
              See the cards I mentioned.
              A. Timokhin here raised the issue of the clearly insufficient number of MAPLs to cover SSBNs during deployment. The number of MAPLs in Russia and the United States is known, moreover, by type (indirectly confirms Timokhin's words).
              So, an ordinary skill to work with information can give a lot. fellow
              1. +1
                18 February 2021 12: 40
                Well, if Timokhin himself, then of course it is. recourse
                And what the hell do states spend money on special services? fellow
                1. -1
                  18 February 2021 12: 58
                  Let me remind you that 90% of information is obtained from the analysis of open sources
                  Well, if Timokhin himself
                  .
                  How can you refute his words about the insufficient number of MAPLs here and now?
                  1. +1
                    18 February 2021 13: 05
                    What makes you think that I'm going to deny something, sick?
                    1. 0
                      18 February 2021 17: 18
                      Well, if Timokhin himself, then of course it is. recourse

                      There were notes of sarcasm request
  10. +6
    16 February 2021 18: 41
    American observers: Russia is the only country that can attempt a massive US nuclear attack

    You need to express yourself more EXACTLY, SPECIFICLY! Will answer and heighten ...
    1. -3
      16 February 2021 19: 02
      Quote: rocket757
      You need to express yourself MORE EXACTLY,

      Afraid. Suddenly we will not understand so well and we will aim something new at them
      1. +3
        16 February 2021 19: 10
        Yes, it makes no difference to their current inhabitant, what they target and how ...
        if you remember how their parents were taught to hide from the atomic bomb UNDER THE TABLE !!! And Hollywood polished the rest! And now they are only afraid of zombies, aliens and the TAX INSPECTOR !!!
        1. -7
          16 February 2021 20: 39
          They fear him much more than all the others put together.
      2. -6
        16 February 2021 20: 38
        They are looking forward to it. Only you can help them push the trillion dollar budget of the Ministry of Defense.
        1. +3
          16 February 2021 20: 45
          Mutual pumping of the layman, for anything, this is a way to control the crowd .... there is no common sense on either side, but still, WE DO NOT push our attack potential to the borders of the opposite side !!!
          This is an objective reality, whatever one may say.
          1. -8
            16 February 2021 21: 05
            But you started to promote the attack potential, which until now is considered throughout the civilized world to be the attributes of a bearded terrorist. Anyway. Objective reality is incomprehensible, and everyone perceives reality in his own way.
            1. +1
              17 February 2021 06: 01
              Cut out of your ..... statements, as if from the WHOLE WORLD!
              Such .... it is not interesting to listen / read garbage.
              1. -1
                17 February 2021 11: 55
                No, I'm not alone (although I am too), but I can read and not only in Russian. Maybe this is not interesting to you, but yes, a dirty bomb and nuclear weapons have long become synonymous with terrorism and Chernobyl in the worldview of people in the West, and there are many reasons for this from the well-known reality.
                1. +1
                  17 February 2021 12: 17
                  Quote: ironic
                  there are many reasons from the well-known reality

                  Are you talking about?
                  You can find a lot of nonsense on the Internet, don't drag it here .... not interesting.
                  1. -1
                    17 February 2021 14: 31
                    And the satellite images of the search area of ​​the test sample that had dived into the water with a nuclear engine that they were trying to extract? An engine explosion in Severodvinsk with a radio burst, recorded abroad? Or maybe a deliberate leakage of information from you about Poseidon warheads (Status-6) with a Cobalt shell? We will mark all this with one hashtag # all you do?
                    Well, yes, it may not be interesting, but it is deadly and moreover exactly in the form in which I wrote above. I just don't need to talk about the uninteresting nature of "Chernobyls", for me it is a somewhat painful topic, because I ran into it not by hearsay and not from the films I know what happened there and how.
    2. +4
      16 February 2021 19: 04
      They judge us by themselves ...
      1. +4
        16 February 2021 19: 12
        Quote: cniza
        They judge us by themselves ...

        They don't judge ... they repeat what Hollywood taught them!
        Judge Schaub, you have to have brains besides your mouth ...
        1. +1
          16 February 2021 20: 41
          Oh yes, and cinema still rules them ...
          1. -6
            17 February 2021 01: 53
            Cinema rules visde.
        2. -7
          16 February 2021 20: 52
          Do you think that apart from the dull man in the street out of 350 million, no one else has brains there?
          1. +2
            16 February 2021 20: 56
            There is, of course, everywhere and everyone ... we have the same thing, but with the growing generation they "work" actively, from different sides ...
            What lies ahead is not very happy.
            The ruling class in our country, the same as elsewhere, means they will be driven into a single standard, but with their own cockroaches in their heads!
            1. +2
              16 February 2021 21: 20
              This is a difficult question, and the problem of the relationship between fathers and children is still relevant today ...
              1. +2
                17 February 2021 06: 05
                The main thing is to keep the children, the children, the correct, reasonable guidelines ... I don’t want them to just want to destroy, without learning how to create anything !!!
            2. -5
              17 February 2021 01: 55
              They are driven to drive, but it works only with those who allow themselves to be driven.
              1. +2
                17 February 2021 06: 07
                Do not tell my horseshoes .... not talking about wild animals or do you live in the forest?
                1. -1
                  17 February 2021 11: 49
                  People are often more terrifying than wild animals, and the forests of sleeping mnogoazhek often become a jungle theme.
                  1. +1
                    17 February 2021 12: 14
                    In our sleeping areas, EVERYTHING IS NORMAL, quiet, calm ... but is it wrong with you?
      2. -8
        16 February 2021 20: 51
        Is it not so with you?
    3. -10
      16 February 2021 19: 39
      The existing START III kit on duty will not be enough for either the Russian Federation or the United States. The war will continue after the exchange of blows, but this is pure theorizing, as there will be no such scenario in the foreseeable future.
      1. +1
        16 February 2021 20: 39
        Theory and practice are not always close.
        What does it mean to destroy the enemy? It is not necessary to bring the entire surface, the territory of the state to the state of glass, it is enough to destroy the industrial potential and make amends for agricultural land for many, many years ...
        What will happen to the state, the surviving people after that ???
        The big exodus ... but where? Where will they welcome a bunch of freeloaders with open arms? Feed, warm, CURE ???
        Moreover, the neighbors' chalice of misfortune and negative impact, from someone else's conflict, will not escape and this will also affect the desire to take those who took part, PARTICIPATED IN MADNESS, CRIME, from which everyone will suffer!
        1. -6
          17 February 2021 02: 03
          I did not argue that there will be a period of slight inconveniences after the exchange of nuclear strikes, but there will be no complete drop in controllability, destruction of all infrastructure and farmland either. 1550 on each side will not reach, and those that do will not destroy everything. The Russian Federation is in a somewhat more favorable position - more land and resources, more territory, in some way - 83% of the population and most of the industry is concentrated on an area much smaller than the United States, and if we take into account the Far Eastern zone, then all 90%. But nevertheless, there will be no total apocalypse, as you draw it, from one exchange of missile strikes.
          1. 0
            17 February 2021 06: 12
            Quote: ironic
            1550 from each side will not reach, and those that will reach will not destroy everything

            A THINKING person will always keep in mind that of all the scenarios for the development of events, THE WORST CAN HAPPEN !!!
            Others can ... guess whatever they want, it doesn't matter.
            1. -1
              17 February 2021 11: 22
              I agree, therefore, the opinion that one of the parties is in a hurry to try the extreme scenario is wrong, but based on the experience of regional conflicts, many painful ones developed from completely isolated clashes. If there is political power capable of taking individual clashes in hand and resolving their consequences at the political level, then the consequences are neutralized, if not, then thousands, and sometimes many, die. Therefore, everyone understands just as well that the chance to bury millions and even many is always present.
              1. 0
                17 February 2021 12: 06
                Quote: ironic
                If there is political power to take

                Not and, with vigorous showdowns, even to assume, to hope for such a thing is FANTASTIC! Not an option, WE CROSS OUT.
                1. -1
                  17 February 2021 12: 16
                  It can just come to a nuclear showdown if there is no political echelon capable of resolving a showdown at the level below.
          2. 0
            17 February 2021 10: 03
            There is not so much quality farmland, in fact. (You can simply compare the amounts of food produced.)
            in some way - 83% of the population and most of the industry is concentrated on an area much smaller than the United States, and if we take into account the Far Eastern zone, then all 90%

            The impression is that many are simply comparing the size of the territories (assuming that the missiles will uniformly strike the endless steppes and tundra?), Never looking at the map of population and industry density.
            1. +1
              17 February 2021 11: 24
              The impression is that many do not compare anything at all, but simply write and pronounce the usual routine phrases and are very angry if they are trying to induce them to some kind of productive action. For example, think and ask more broadly.
              1. +1
                17 February 2021 12: 10
                Ha, expand the limits, expand .... there were a lot of them, expanders, living space and all the like, AND THEN .... read the story, it's very useful.
                1. -1
                  17 February 2021 12: 14
                  History is my favorite subject, I always passed it at 5. But only history does not repeat itself, this is a mistaken stigma.

                  But I do not understand why are you talking about extensions? Today every educated person knows that the seizure of foreign territories with a potentially hostile population, like genocide, is economically unproductive, but ideologically condemned.
    4. 0
      17 February 2021 09: 42
      There are not enough charges to level. We will suffer terrible losses ourselves, see the population density map. And for what?
      As a result, the 140 millionth not the richest country (budget, production) will have to fight against wealthy countries with a population of 700+ million. And this time, no Lend Lease. And external income.
      And China may be very interested in a fairly weakened neighbor (in a bad sense).
      1. 0
        17 February 2021 09: 48
        Quote: 3danimal
        ... And for what?

        Therefore, it does not fly, because the end result will not please EVERYONE!
        BUT, we did not start this race, we do not have real experience of using nuclear weapons, we do not bring military bases and offensive weapons closer to their borders ... we will not start, but we will answer.
        1. -1
          17 February 2021 10: 08
          we are not bringing military bases closer

          The Balts were not forced to join NATO. But their fears for their safety are based on the events of 1940. request
          we will not start, but we will answer

          The United States will not start the war first. In order to embark on a destructive adventure for millions of citizens, a permanent leader with unlimited power is needed. (As in Nazi Germany, for example)
          1. 0
            17 February 2021 11: 51
            Quote: 3danimal
            we are not bringing military bases closer

            The Balts were not forced to join NATO. But their fears for their safety are based on the events of 1940. request
            we will not start, but we will answer

            The United States will not start the war first. In order to embark on a destructive adventure for millions of citizens, a permanent leader with unlimited power is needed. (As in Nazi Germany, for example)

            The Fuhrer was chosen in the most dermocratic way !!! The Germans themselves chose .... who then fostered, equipped and set him on, a very interesting question?
            1. 0
              17 February 2021 15: 08
              The Fuhrer was chosen in the most dermocratic way

              Take a look at history:
              The NSDAP had 35%, Hitler was appointed chancellor by President Hindenburg under pressure from the Nazis and a number of industrialists and bankers.
              After which Adik immediately canceled the elections and concentrated all power in his hands. What did the existing system interfere with, apparently?
              This is not possible in the United States.
              that's who fostered him later

              The policy of "appeasement", a misunderstanding that "choosing between war and shame the latter, you will get both war and shame" (W. Churchill).
              The USSR was also very courteous to that regime. Although in 1939-1940, while the Wehrmacht was in the west, it was quite easy to cut off the only source of fuel (Ploiesti in Romania) and defeat the Nazis in coalition with England (with them the fleet and aviation).
      2. 0
        17 February 2021 17: 57
        TNW is there for scavengers, which are 700+ ... Everything has been calculated long ago.
        1. 0
          17 February 2021 18: 17
          The available charges will not be enough. And you have not forgotten that 700+ also have it, in total even more than ours.
          As a result, it will turn out to be 70 million against 400 million. And the multiple superiority of the remnants of industry and conventional weapons from the “other” side (including modern, not mothballed, tanks).
          Without external assistance, with China, which has become many times stronger, close by, and has territorial claims.
          Therefore, it is necessary by all means to avoid the scenario of a large-scale war.
          Better to develop and trade. We have wondered how many settlements have not yet been supplied with gas, there are schools with toilets in the yard, most of the territory is not inhabited ..
  11. +6
    16 February 2021 18: 44
    They are silent about China. And in vain They have more reason to turn the United States into a radioactive desert. hi
    1. -9
      16 February 2021 19: 39
      But opportunities are not enough yet.
    2. 0
      17 February 2021 09: 44
      This is a silly figure of speech.
      And attacking the US with nuclear weapons is like voluntarily burning half of its population; there will be a counter-strike.
    3. 0
      17 February 2021 18: 19
      China will surely run out of charges and delivery vehicles. And after a retaliatory strike, it will recover for at least 100 years.
  12. +3
    16 February 2021 18: 44
    American observers: Russia is the only country that can attempt a massive US nuclear attack

    And what for? belay
    The Supreme Commander said, only in response to such or a threat to territorial integrity.
    You will not skip and sleep well. Well, or calmly, then. lol
    1. -4
      16 February 2021 19: 03
      Quote: K-50
      and sleep well.

      If conscience lets you fall asleep
      Although where will they get it ...
    2. -8
      16 February 2021 19: 41
      So these are hypothetical vacuum horses, especially since it will not be possible to rest all 1550 warheads anyway, even the war will theoretically not end there.
      1. +1
        16 February 2021 19: 53
        Quote: ironic
        So these are hypothetical vacuum horses, especially since it will still not be possible to put everyone to rest with 1550 warheads, even the war will theoretically not end there.

        How will the war continue? By the way, in START there is nothing about tactical nuclear weapons ... And Russia has more of it ... this is a global advantage in the conduct of hostilities ... But strategically ... One and a half thousand warheads will not be enough for what? Burn out ALL states? What for? There is a concept of "unacceptable damage" ...
        1. -11
          16 February 2021 20: 48
          Will continue with mutual strikes of strategic bombers, which will be in the air before the mutual landing of missile salvoes, will continue with the AUG and the battle of tactical nuclear submarines. It will continue with clashes with the amphibious formations of both countries, which will also be in the air and at sea at the time of the strikes. It will continue at the level of the headquarters leadership and logistics management systems, which are unlikely to be destroyed. An unacceptable damage, as a parameter, exists before the exchange of strategic strikes, i.e. a deterrent that everyone is trying to avoid, and after that there is the principle of the second wave and the use of the surviving infrastructure. Yes, the Russian Federation has more tactical nuclear weapons, but the United States has more means of delivery and more means of destruction of possible locations for the deployment of TNW. So TMV, if you theoretically talk about it, the exchange of missile strikes is far from over and everyone has known about this for a long time.
    3. 0
      17 February 2021 09: 54
      So they don't need to attack. There are no territorial claims and never have been. In 2 world wars they fought on the same side.
      They just want the leadership of the Russian Federation to keep within certain limits. (Around the period 2000-2010, I guess).
      And the levers are primarily economic. Russia is by no means an autarky, but having started to move in this direction, it will incur significant losses and losses (the standard of living of citizens).
      Big Point: USA can disable the internet for any organization by simply revoking the website security protocol (SSL). (These are extreme measures, but they are possible).
  13. -2
    16 February 2021 18: 47
    As a result, the authors write that the Biden administration should focus on the fact that it is Russia that needs to be "restrained from the first massive strike"

    By my standards - Trump is almost like Zhirinovsky - this is me about politics, Trump, of course, interrupted Zhirinovsky by his statements, but "the values ​​are comparable." wassat good

    But ... I think so ... that in Biden's administration there has certainly come a "senile marasmus" if they think that we will be the first to deliver a "massive blow")))))))))))) at least according to the situation now))
    1. -8
      16 February 2021 19: 42
      What are you, Vladimir Volfovich is unique in his own way.
  14. +1
    16 February 2021 18: 56
    They write nonsense and nonsense. At least they would have looked at the map first.
  15. +2
    16 February 2021 19: 03
    Russia is the only country in the world that can attempt a massive nuclear attack on the United States.


    And why does Russia need it, we are only in response or in the face of a threat ...
  16. +1
    16 February 2021 19: 14
    "Russia is the only country in the world that can attempt a massive nuclear attack on the United States."
    Tell me, in order to utter this truth, how many greens do you need (you can, you need, it is desirable, you would like) to get the greens out of someone else's pants into your own? In 5 minutes!!!!!! The ways of the Lord are inscrutable, as are the Russian awards to unknown singers (Forgive me, Lord).
  17. -1
    16 February 2021 19: 14
    Russia is the only country in the world that can attempt a massive nuclear attack on the United States.
    They are wrong. Not just an attempt, but the guaranteed destruction of all centers of power and control of the American army. It will be clear to us, too, but all this will no longer matter. There will be no turning back, this is a one-way ticket.
  18. -2
    16 February 2021 19: 21
    Quote: Finches
    And also Russia is the only country that America would not resist at all, if she herself did not climb to us all the time!

    And what then is such an increased interest in the Western world? Curiously simple?
  19. +2
    16 February 2021 19: 24
    Dolbodyatly do not even understand what they are writing about.
    We can’t fuck with China because we are afraid of Russia, so Russia needs to be scared so that it doesn’t hit first.
    This is cognitive dissonance.
  20. -1
    16 February 2021 19: 24
    No one will use nuclear weapons, at least until the robots of the servants are created, then yes, you can zhahnat from the bunker, but right now the zhahni in the bunker can click their own, all the presidents remember the example of Hitler
  21. -3
    16 February 2021 19: 27
    It has not been discussed already - for a massive strike and an unconditional victory, only we will not have enough warheads physically and economically, plus in terms of our money and property it is not currently possible to shoot.
    1. 0
      17 February 2021 18: 01
      What money after a nuclear war ??? Natural exchange will be potatoes for cartridges
  22. -10
    16 February 2021 19: 28
    The authors of the article say unreasonable and illogical things, but most likely they reflect extremely left-liberal views in American society and fulfill their political order.
  23. 0
    16 February 2021 20: 50
    the authors write that the Biden administration should focus on the fact that it is Russia that needs to be "restrained from the first massive strike"

    It is in the doctrine of the Amerz that the infliction of a preventive nuclear strike on the USSR / Russia is recorded, it was they who developed such plans since 1949. The USSR / Russia has a defensive doctrine, which is why we have the most developed air defense and missile defense system. These authors do not own the material, but invent a line and write all sorts of nonsense. fool
  24. 0
    16 February 2021 20: 51
    there is a feeling that America dreams of being bombarded with nuclear weapons :)
  25. 0
    16 February 2021 20: 59
    Sometimes, in the American press you can find such nonsense
  26. 0
    16 February 2021 20: 59
    Russia is the only country in the world that will not make such attempts. She will only respond to such an attempt.
  27. +1
    16 February 2021 21: 13
    According to American security doctrine, a threat is an opportunity or intention to harm the United States,
    they base their entire policy on this, no matter who has any malicious intentions towards the United States,
    So far, only Russia is fully capable of destroying the United States, and whatever its intentions, according to their doctrine, Russia is the main threat.
    Expecting to destroy Russia or to bring its leadership under control and, as a result, its strategic weapons, or by placing systems near Kharkov to neutralize it, the United States abandoned its strategic weapons, and is already hopelessly behind in this matter both politically and technologically.
  28. 0
    16 February 2021 21: 42
    And what do you need !?
  29. -2
    16 February 2021 21: 56
    They have nothing to bang. The fuse is damp. Plutonium tablets-initiators are "rotten"
  30. -1
    16 February 2021 21: 58
    Russia is the only country that can attempt a massive US nuclear attack

    This is news, at least we can do something. Thank you the USSR for the touch!
  31. 0
    16 February 2021 22: 47
    If God forbid we clash, we will smash the whole ball, not just some America. Sorry for the bird! Better not to test us for strength, we will hit, but not in Voronezh, but in Kemp David and Walstreet. And on the lawn near the White House. From the pentagon. Let's make a parallelepiped! Maybe enough squeaks are measured, anyway we have more.
  32. +1
    16 February 2021 23: 41
    American observers: Russia is the only country that can attempt a massive US nuclear attack

    One question.
    What for?
    Are you inscribed with the Stars and Stripes surrendered to Russia to keep you warm with a vigorous loaf?
    A lot of honor.
  33. 0
    16 February 2021 23: 44
    Russia is the only country in the world to launch a massive retaliatory nuclear strike against NATO countries and the United States.
  34. 0
    17 February 2021 01: 24
    Dangerous verbal balancing act, right: - "Russia is the only country in the world, upon inflicting a nuclear strike on which, guaranteed mutual destruction will occur." only such a postulate is capable of preventing the desire to strike, the first "disarming blow"
  35. 0
    17 February 2021 07: 11
    Russia is understandable. But China? They rivet vigorous bombs and missiles without any restrictive agreements. Yes, even if they just riveted bombs - this is also a threat. And they have strategic aviation and missiles with nuclear warheads, so why is Russia again one of the most threats?
  36. 0
    17 February 2021 08: 39
    an Indian with a helmet, then a stupid one, wrote and a niger assented to him. Obligatory missile flight over Russia when striking China and North Korea. Only an Indian can think of this. I think there will be a response from Russia in any case, even though the missile will fly over its territory at least not
  37. 0
    17 February 2021 10: 40
    Quote: lucul
    The only thing in which I agree with Khrushchev.

    Well .....
    But I don't understand at all what these authors meant.
    The authors note that China and North Korea cannot be written off in this regard, but “an attempt to use nuclear weapons in response against these countries will lead to that American ICBMs will fly over Russian territory, since it borders both China and North Korea. "

    I can't understand why they must necessarily fly OVER the territory of Russia? Are they going to launch them from Europe and Alaska? )))
    But what about ICBM missiles on American submarines? Is it impossible with them? Or have these missiles already fallen into disrepair, that they are considering only the land version of ICBM missiles? ))))
    I can not understand .....


    They are firing SLBMs from positional areas in the Atlantic. There, at the bottom of the station, they stand, thereby reducing the dead reckoning of the launch position. Hence the indicators of shooting accuracy. And here is how they will shoot from Quiet. this is a question and what will be the result of the CEP is also an interesting question.
  38. 0
    17 February 2021 16: 57
    Quote: ironic
    Will continue with mutual strikes of strategic bombers, which will be in the air before the mutual landing of missile salvoes, will continue with the AUG and the battle of tactical nuclear submarines. It will continue with clashes with the amphibious formations of both countries, which will also be in the air and at sea at the time of the strikes. It will continue at the level of the headquarters leadership and logistics management systems, which are unlikely to be destroyed. An unacceptable damage, as a parameter, exists before the exchange of strategic strikes, i.e. a deterrent that everyone is trying to avoid, and after that there is the principle of the second wave and the use of the surviving infrastructure. Yes, the Russian Federation has more tactical nuclear weapons, but the United States has more means of delivery and more means of destruction of possible locations for the deployment of TNW. So TMV, if you theoretically talk about it, the exchange of missile strikes is far from over and everyone has known about this for a long time.

    In fact, active actions will continue for several days - by inertia. And then all the participants will not be up to the fighting. You will need to try to somehow restore order on your own territory. All these AUG and contingents on the neighboring mainland will be left without supplies and without leadership - in fact, they will be left to fend for themselves. The planet will have contaminated areas from destroyed nuclear power plants, chemical. enterprises. Explosions and emissions will continue later. Then all this muck will slowly drain into water bodies and the ocean, which will cause an ecological catastrophe of such a scale that Gretta Tumberg will spin in her coffin like a fan. All organized medicine will be covered with a copper basin, and this, coupled with unsanitary conditions, will cause a surge of infectious diseases. The remnants of the population will go into gangs and will defend more or less prosperous areas. To confirm these words, you can see how some natural disasters end in the States. People are not virtual soldiers, and as soon as they smell fried, everyone will be for themselves, discipline will melt like smoke. Somehow it will be like this in reality, and not in the computer games that you operate.
    1. 0
      17 February 2021 23: 26
      2020 showed that even a common and annual infection
      can trigger the scenario described by you.
  39. 0
    17 February 2021 23: 23
    Be careful when the enemy praises you.
    Another pumping up of the military budget.
    I'm talking about the USA now,
    although there are enough "hawks" in every country.
  40. 0
    18 February 2021 01: 57
    The new administration is laying the groundwork for the old song about the main thing. The message is quite specific. In order to cope with the enemy N1 (China), you must first remove the enemy N2 (Russia), since she is the only one who can erase the whole world (and the USA in particular) in dust in one helmet. And since this is impossible (Russia is to blame), then the threat is minimal. However, give money to contain Russia. The circle is closed and the song is sung again and so on ad infinitum.