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"Then it is necessary to sign a contract for Su-35 or Su-57 fighters" - India comments on plans to modernize the Su-30

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India confirmed the information that negotiations are underway with Russia on the modernization of the aircraft fleet of fighters. We are talking about discussing the modernization program for the Su-30MKI fighters.


It should be recalled that just a few days ago, the last two Su-30MKI fighters were assembled in India within the framework of a previously concluded large contract with the Russian Federation. Now Russia is proposing to New Delhi to modernize the fighters in the Indian Air Force.

V. Seshagiri Rao, General Director of the Indian company that assembled Russian Su-30MKI aircraft at the plant in Nashik:

Several Su-30 fighters will be modernized jointly with Russia. Subsequently, we will carry out modernization at our factories ourselves. We also plan to expand our ability to repair and maintain these aircraft. All this will ensure the rhythmic work of our enterprises.


In India, Su-30 fighters are equipped with air-to-air missiles of their own production - Astra. Certain aircraft are already receiving the BrahMos missiles, which were created within the framework of a joint project with the Russian Federation.

Some performance characteristics of "Astra": warhead weight - 15 kg, maximum range - 110 km, maximum speed - about 4,5 M.

Indian users commented on the news of the modernization of the Su-30MKI. At the same time, many believe that it would be worthwhile to better negotiate the supply of the Su-35 or Su-57.

Then you need to sign a contract for Su-35 or Su-57 fighters. And factories will be loaded with work even more

It's time to move on to orders for fifth generation fighters. We are far behind. We must catch up with China, which has gone ahead into aviation.
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  1. The popuas
    The popuas 7 February 2021 07: 58
    +6
    Phah ... Jimmy Jimmy ... acha acha laughing
  2. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 7 February 2021 08: 05
    +1
    Let them design their 5th generations, but for now ask Russia to sell the Su57, I'm just sure that with this aircraft it will work out as with Arjun.
    1. Machito
      Machito 7 February 2021 11: 02
      +3
      They are already sixth generation going to build. Why do they need the Su-57? laughing
  3. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 7 February 2021 08: 18
    -2
    It is necessary to catch up with China, which has gone ahead in aviation.

    And not only in aviation
  4. Dimide
    Dimide 7 February 2021 08: 32
    0
    Water with water, no specifics
    1. U-58
      U-58 7 February 2021 08: 39
      +4
      Exactly, no specifics.
      With India, everything is as usual.
      The bride is both demanding and very picky. And very, very indecisive.
      Figuratively speaking, there is a fire between the legs, but it is scary to put out ...
      Long-term dances with tambourines are coming again. And with an unpredictable outcome.
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 8 February 2021 10: 13
        +1
        at the same time, the French are bending over India to expensive contracts as they want.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 7 February 2021 09: 47
      0
      How much I read about cooperation between our military-industrial complex and India, they are always unhappy with everything. That ship, not the one. That plane, not what they wanted. No wonder the British did not stand on ceremony with them.
    3. alexmach
      alexmach 7 February 2021 11: 41
      +12
      The news is actually great. The modernization of the Su-30 is long overdue, and Russia is also interested in this modernization, since we also have Su-30s, and they also ask for modernization. The more aircraft need to be modernized, and India has 2,5 times more of them than Russia, the cheaper this modernization will be in terms of one side, and the more chances that under a large contract the modernization project will be brought to mind as it should.
    4. IL-18
      IL-18 7 February 2021 20: 09
      0
      Quote: Dimid
      Water with water, no specifics

      And with the Indians, as always request
  5. V1er
    V1er 7 February 2021 08: 41
    +10
    Sell ​​them a 57e overpriced. In India, they love the expensive. The higher the price, the better the quality) laughing (contract for Rafali)
  6. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 February 2021 09: 10
    +7
    Su30 is the basis of Indian Aviation and they need to be brought to the level of Su35S ..... This will already cover the basic needs of India and we can wait for the 5th generation.
    1. Hexenmeister
      Hexenmeister 7 February 2021 14: 15
      +2
      All this is problematic. The Russian "Bars-R" is already different from the Indian one, plus the modernization of the Su-30SM to the level of the Su-35 is the replacement of the entire Russian with all the more advanced Russian ones. And the Su-30MKI is a composite hodgepodge, in which there is also advanced, according to India, electronics. They will not change all of it to Russian, where to get the rest of the board, the really best one is also in question, and therefore the ways of modernizing Russian and Indian aircraft will instantly diverge at the initial stage.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 7 February 2021 18: 52
        0
        Well, China did it. But then, you can then install weapons not only of our production
        1. Hexenmeister
          Hexenmeister 7 February 2021 19: 05
          0
          And what has China done? He put everything his own, but does India have such an opportunity?
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 7 February 2021 20: 51
            0
            There are ..... there are Israeli and French partners .... but I don’t know if they will be able to connect Russian welts later on ......
            1. Hexenmeister
              Hexenmeister 7 February 2021 21: 18
              0
              That's what we are talking about, but while they will debug all this new hodgepodge without Bars, everything will become outdated again.
  7. alekc75
    alekc75 7 February 2021 09: 11
    -3
    what kind of rocket 15 kg per 100 km flies ?????
    1. ssergey1978
      ssergey1978 7 February 2021 09: 14
      +4
      15 kg is a missile warhead. I think so.
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 8 February 2021 10: 14
        0
        ram-type rocket - 110 km accelerates, and then 15 kg ram penetrates the target
        1. ssergey1978
          ssergey1978 8 February 2021 19: 23
          +1
          What ram? The warhead is an explosive with paralyzing elements. The fuse is remote. Undermining occurs a few meters from the target
    2. Vlad5307
      Vlad5307 7 February 2021 10: 45
      +6
      Minus from me - you need to read carefully, and not just jump on the tops - 15 kg is the weight of the warhead, not the entire rocket. wink
  8. newcomer
    newcomer 7 February 2021 09: 15
    0
    This song will be long. So you, comrades Indians, would have been modern. SU30 _ "Super Dry", two or three years ago, if they hadn't wagged their peacock's tail.
    1. Lelik76
      Lelik76 7 February 2021 10: 11
      0
      Yes, much earlier, the extreme machines themselves would have been able to produce for a long time in such a person, there are not such global improvements on the frame.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 7 February 2021 10: 27
        0
        While we would start, the extreme machines would arrive in this / next, just the beginning a couple of years ago. The modernization consisted of composite wings, UHT engines, new avionics, avionics, RADAR, weapons, dusting for stealth.
        1. Lelik76
          Lelik76 7 February 2021 15: 45
          +1
          Su-30MKI has no UHT engines? I heard about this deep modernization about 10 years ago, just with the advent of a new avionics on our machines, apparently more and more cardinal modernization methods are offered, probably in the face of the Su-30SM2.
          The cabin was something like this then
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 7 February 2021 16: 19
            +3
            AL31FP s
            UHT of course. I mean its modernization for the Indians.
            For our beloved ones, we have thought over the modernization with optimization of two types of SU30 with SU35. At 30, they will put AL41F1S engines and all the filling from 35. Modern version SU30SMD.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 7 February 2021 11: 42
        +1
        Why is it still not released even for their own MO?
  9. alekc75
    alekc75 7 February 2021 09: 15
    -9
    Quote: ssergey1978
    15 kg is a missile warhead. I think so.

    that's bullshit!!!
    1. ssergey1978
      ssergey1978 7 February 2021 09: 22
      +2
      Whose nonsense? Are you sober?
    2. ssergey1978
      ssergey1978 7 February 2021 09: 27
      0
      Go to wikipedia and read about this rocket. Range 110-160 km. Warhead 15 kg
  10. storm
    storm 7 February 2021 09: 17
    +5
    Hindus need to do three things in order to catch up with China:
    1. To return to the joint program with Russia on the 5th generation two-seat fighter, by the way it will come in handy for the Aerospace Forces;
    2. Sign a contract for the modernization of a couple of hundreds of Su-30MKI under the SM1 project.
    3. Sign an agreement for the joint production of MiG - 35.
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 7 February 2021 19: 19
      -2
      No co-production. Do we have a shortage of workers, support the poor Indians?
  11. alekc75
    alekc75 7 February 2021 09: 28
    -5
    Quote: ssergey1978
    Go to wikipedia and read about this rocket. Range 110-160 km. Warhead 15 kg

    your wiki is still that expert !!!
    1. ssergey1978
      ssergey1978 7 February 2021 09: 48
      +4
      Have a snack citizen. Blue is evil.
  12. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 7 February 2021 10: 28
    0
    Then you need to sign a contract for Su-35 fighters.

    What's the point?
    Unless the plant is loaded.
    Otherwise, buy a modern avionics and their SU30 will be much better.
  13. prior
    prior 7 February 2021 10: 44
    +1
    "Indian users commented on the news of the modernization of the Su-30MKI"

    After modernization in the SU-30MKI cockpit, the Indian pilot will be able to freely assume the Lotus pose.
  14. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 7 February 2021 10: 52
    +3
    Quote: Jacket in stock
    Then you need to sign a contract for Su-35 fighters.

    What's the point?
    Unless the plant is loaded.
    Otherwise, buy a modern avionics and their SU30 will be much better.

    In India, there are sober-minded military experts, but they are, as always, drowned out by the voices bought by Western suppliers. Hence the confusion in purchasing decisions. The modernization of the Su-30 is a healthy proposal, while there is no better offer for the supply of more modern machines and no matter who will supply them, but from the Russian Federation this is the best option in many respects. soldier
  15. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 7 February 2021 14: 34
    0
    India often behaves like a dyed and capricious girl.

    Give her that and that.
    And how the roast cock pecked ...
    I agree to everything.
  16. Lelik76
    Lelik76 7 February 2021 16: 26
    +3
    Quote: newbie
    AL31FP s
    For our beloved ones, we have thought over the modernization with optimization of two types of SU30 with SU35. At 30, they will put AL41F1S engines and all the filling from 35. Modern version SU30SMD.

    We have already put on one vehicle for testing, I am aware of all this modernization, because at our plant they make it, in fact, like the planes themselves. At the end of the 90s, he assembled the first experimental vehicle with his own hands, the Su-30MKI.
  17. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 7 February 2021 18: 40
    0
    Dumayu pravilniy put budet modernizacia ikh SU-30MKI do urovnia SU-35.
    1. Alf
      Alf 7 February 2021 21: 21
      +8
      You can in Russian ?
      1. CastroRuiz
        CastroRuiz 7 February 2021 21: 33
        +1
        Pishu po russki foneticheski.
        1. Alf
          Alf 7 February 2021 21: 34
          +8
          Quote: CastroRuiz
          Pishu po russki foneticheski.

          What is it like?
  18. bessonov932
    bessonov932 7 February 2021 23: 37
    +1
    "I'm dressed like a picture
    I'm in Japanese boots
    In the Russian hat is big
    And with an Indian soul

    I'm in American socks
    In tight British trousers
    In the Russian hat is big
    And with an Indian soul. "
    Song from the movie "Mr. 420" 1955
  19. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 8 February 2021 00: 48
    0
    And in general, they do not have such a great need for new aircraft. How many are they displaying the Mig-21, three squadrons?
  20. yehat2
    yehat2 8 February 2021 10: 15
    +1
    Quote: Lelik76
    Su-30MKI has no UHT engines?

    and drying with add. were the wings that were sold to the Chinese equipped with an UHT?
    1. Lelik76
      Lelik76 8 February 2021 15: 05
      0
      Not with wings, but with PGO - front horizontal tail.