"Then it is necessary to sign a contract for Su-35 or Su-57 fighters" - India comments on plans to modernize the Su-30

India confirmed the information that negotiations are underway with Russia on the modernization of the aircraft fleet of fighters. We are talking about discussing the modernization program for the Su-30MKI fighters.

It should be recalled that just a few days ago, the last two Su-30MKI fighters were assembled in India within the framework of a previously concluded large contract with the Russian Federation. Now Russia is proposing to New Delhi to modernize the fighters in the Indian Air Force.

V. Seshagiri Rao, General Director of the Indian company that assembled Russian Su-30MKI aircraft at the plant in Nashik:

Several Su-30 fighters will be modernized jointly with Russia. Subsequently, we will carry out modernization at our factories ourselves. We also plan to expand our ability to repair and maintain these aircraft. All this will ensure the rhythmic work of our enterprises.

In India, Su-30 fighters are equipped with air-to-air missiles of their own production - Astra. Certain aircraft are already receiving the BrahMos missiles, which were created within the framework of a joint project with the Russian Federation.

Some performance characteristics of "Astra": warhead weight - 15 kg, maximum range - 110 km, maximum speed - about 4,5 M.

Indian users commented on the news of the modernization of the Su-30MKI. At the same time, many believe that it would be worthwhile to better negotiate the supply of the Su-35 or Su-57.

Then you need to sign a contract for Su-35 or Su-57 fighters. And factories will be loaded with work even more

It's time to move on to orders for fifth generation fighters. We are far behind. We must catch up with China, which has gone ahead into aviation.

Comments

[The popuas]

Phah ... Jimmy Jimmy ... acha acha

[Pessimist22]

Let them design their 5th generations, but for now ask Russia to sell the Su57, I'm just sure that with this aircraft it will work out as with Arjun.

[Machito]

They are already sixth generation going to build. Why do they need the Su-57?

[Lipchanin]

It is necessary to catch up with China, which has gone ahead in aviation.

And not only in aviation

[Dimide]

Water with water, no specifics

[U-58]

Exactly, no specifics.
With India, everything is as usual.
The bride is both demanding and very picky. And very, very indecisive.
Figuratively speaking, there is a fire between the legs, but it is scary to put out ...
Long-term dances with tambourines are coming again. And with an unpredictable outcome.

[yehat2]

at the same time, the French are bending over India to expensive contracts as they want.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

How much I read about cooperation between our military-industrial complex and India, they are always unhappy with everything. That ship, not the one. That plane, not what they wanted. No wonder the British did not stand on ceremony with them.

[alexmach]

The news is actually great. The modernization of the Su-30 is long overdue, and Russia is also interested in this modernization, since we also have Su-30s, and they also ask for modernization. The more aircraft need to be modernized, and India has 2,5 times more of them than Russia, the cheaper this modernization will be in terms of one side, and the more chances that under a large contract the modernization project will be brought to mind as it should.

[IL-18]

Quote: Dimid

Water with water, no specifics

And with the Indians, as always

[V1er]

Sell ​​them a 57e overpriced. In India, they love the expensive. The higher the price, the better the quality) (contract for Rafali)

[Zaurbek]

Su30 is the basis of Indian Aviation and they need to be brought to the level of Su35S ..... This will already cover the basic needs of India and we can wait for the 5th generation.

[Hexenmeister]

All this is problematic. The Russian "Bars-R" is already different from the Indian one, plus the modernization of the Su-30SM to the level of the Su-35 is the replacement of the entire Russian with all the more advanced Russian ones. And the Su-30MKI is a composite hodgepodge, in which there is also advanced, according to India, electronics. They will not change all of it to Russian, where to get the rest of the board, the really best one is also in question, and therefore the ways of modernizing Russian and Indian aircraft will instantly diverge at the initial stage.

[Zaurbek]

Well, China did it. But then, you can then install weapons not only of our production

[Hexenmeister]

And what has China done? He put everything his own, but does India have such an opportunity?

[Zaurbek]

There are ..... there are Israeli and French partners .... but I don’t know if they will be able to connect Russian welts later on ......

[Hexenmeister]

That's what we are talking about, but while they will debug all this new hodgepodge without Bars, everything will become outdated again.

[alekc75]

what kind of rocket 15 kg per 100 km flies ?????

[ssergey1978]

15 kg is a missile warhead. I think so.

[yehat2]

ram-type rocket - 110 km accelerates, and then 15 kg ram penetrates the target

[ssergey1978]

What ram? The warhead is an explosive with paralyzing elements. The fuse is remote. Undermining occurs a few meters from the target

[Vlad5307]

Minus from me - you need to read carefully, and not just jump on the tops - 15 kg is the weight of the warhead, not the entire rocket.

[newcomer]

This song will be long. So you, comrades Indians, would have been modern. SU30 _ "Super Dry", two or three years ago, if they hadn't wagged their peacock's tail.

[Lelik76]

Yes, much earlier, the extreme machines themselves would have been able to produce for a long time in such a person, there are not such global improvements on the frame.

[newcomer]

While we would start, the extreme machines would arrive in this / next, just the beginning a couple of years ago. The modernization consisted of composite wings, UHT engines, new avionics, avionics, RADAR, weapons, dusting for stealth.

[Lelik76]

Su-30MKI has no UHT engines? I heard about this deep modernization about 10 years ago, just with the advent of a new avionics on our machines, apparently more and more cardinal modernization methods are offered, probably in the face of the Su-30SM2.
The cabin was something like this then

[newcomer]

AL31FP s
UHT of course. I mean its modernization for the Indians.
For our beloved ones, we have thought over the modernization with optimization of two types of SU30 with SU35. At 30, they will put AL41F1S engines and all the filling from 35. Modern version SU30SMD.

[alexmach]

Why is it still not released even for their own MO?

[alekc75]

Quote: ssergey1978

15 kg is a missile warhead. I think so.

that's bullshit!!!

[ssergey1978]

Whose nonsense? Are you sober?

[ssergey1978]

Go to wikipedia and read about this rocket. Range 110-160 km. Warhead 15 kg

[storm]

Hindus need to do three things in order to catch up with China:
1. To return to the joint program with Russia on the 5th generation two-seat fighter, by the way it will come in handy for the Aerospace Forces;
2. Sign a contract for the modernization of a couple of hundreds of Su-30MKI under the SM1 project.
3. Sign an agreement for the joint production of MiG - 35.

[Quadro]

No co-production. Do we have a shortage of workers, support the poor Indians?

[alekc75]

Quote: ssergey1978

Go to wikipedia and read about this rocket. Range 110-160 km. Warhead 15 kg

your wiki is still that expert !!!

[ssergey1978]

Have a snack citizen. Blue is evil.

[Jacket in stock]

Then you need to sign a contract for Su-35 fighters.

What's the point?
Unless the plant is loaded.
Otherwise, buy a modern avionics and their SU30 will be much better.

[prior]

"Indian users commented on the news of the modernization of the Su-30MKI"

After modernization in the SU-30MKI cockpit, the Indian pilot will be able to freely assume the Lotus pose.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Then you need to sign a contract for Su-35 fighters.

What's the point?
Unless the plant is loaded.
Otherwise, buy a modern avionics and their SU30 will be much better.

In India, there are sober-minded military experts, but they are, as always, drowned out by the voices bought by Western suppliers. Hence the confusion in purchasing decisions. The modernization of the Su-30 is a healthy proposal, while there is no better offer for the supply of more modern machines and no matter who will supply them, but from the Russian Federation this is the best option in many respects.

[Sands Careers General]

India often behaves like a dyed and capricious girl.

Give her that and that.
And how the roast cock pecked ...
I agree to everything.

[Lelik76]

Quote: newbie

AL31FP s
For our beloved ones, we have thought over the modernization with optimization of two types of SU30 with SU35. At 30, they will put AL41F1S engines and all the filling from 35. Modern version SU30SMD.

We have already put on one vehicle for testing, I am aware of all this modernization, because at our plant they make it, in fact, like the planes themselves. At the end of the 90s, he assembled the first experimental vehicle with his own hands, the Su-30MKI.

[Castro Ruiz]

Dumayu pravilniy put budet modernizacia ikh SU-30MKI do urovnia SU-35.

[Alf]

You can in Russian ?

[Castro Ruiz]

pishu po russian phoneticheski.

[Alf]

Quote: CastroRuiz

pishu po russian phoneticheski.

What is it like?

[bessonov932]

"I'm dressed like a picture
I'm in Japanese boots
In the Russian hat is big
And with an Indian soul

I'm in American socks
In tight British trousers
In the Russian hat is big
And with an Indian soul. "
Song from the movie "Mr. 420" 1955

[Sancho_SP]

And in general, they do not have such a great need for new aircraft. How many are they displaying the Mig-21, three squadrons?

[yehat2]

Quote: Lelik76

Su-30MKI has no UHT engines?

and drying with add. were the wings that were sold to the Chinese equipped with an UHT?

[Lelik76]

Not with wings, but with PGO - front horizontal tail.