This year, the Armed Forces of Ukraine may receive large-caliber complexes of Ukrainian production

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is interested in the acquisition of the so-called "infantry cannon" PG-14,5 "Night Predator" chambered for 14,5x114 mm. Such a sniper weapon is capable of not only hitting a normal target at ultra-long distances, but also destroying light armored vehicles or even damaging a tank.

This year, the Armed Forces of Ukraine may receive into service large-caliber sniper systems of Ukrainian production, developed by the Kiev plant "Mayak", which is part of the State Corporation "Ukroboronprom".

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine provides for the purchase of large-caliber 14,5 mm rifles to meet the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

- answered the information request of journalists in the defense department.

The large-caliber rifle, which is also called an "anti-material or infantry gun", is based on a 14,5-mm self-loading 2 mm self-loading cannon brand 35XXNUMX, designed for training shooting without consuming main ammunition tanks Soviet model, equipped with 125 mm guns.

The rifle's firing range is said to exceed 3,5 kilometers. The "Night Predator" is equipped with additional systems, in particular, a silencer, which makes firing invisible to the enemy at a distance of 800 meters, and a recoil compensator, which allows almost any fighter to use the "gun".

The first experimental samples of this weapon have been tested in practice in military operations in the Donbas since 2015.

Comments

[igorspb]

if they are the same as mortars, then veri good ...

[Alex777]

if they are the same as mortars, then veri good ...

Therefore, they try to do it from the inserts.
Until they are answered, they can shoot.
I suppose these will be covered first.

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[Hunter 2]

Create a Sniper Complex from an insert for a tank gun well ... then "Snipers" should be recruited from local psychiatric dispensaries!
I never cease to be amazed at the non-brothers' manic desire to adapt the 14,5 / 114 cartridge for sniper shooting omitting other data and requirements, I will leave only one question - Where will they get ammunition for high-precision shooting ??? A machine gun cartridge, even in a very good (and it is not a priori) barrel - will not give the required performance

[Alex777]

well ... then "Snipers" should be recruited from local psychiatric dispensaries!

So where do they get them? From there, of course.

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Alex777

So where do they get them? From there, of course.

Apparently it is! I already wrote that I would not be surprised if the next "sniper complex" they will create on the basis of the forty-fives taken from storage from the Great Patriotic War ... and why - there is definitely no such thing anywhere, just imagine - a "sniper" group of Five people, it will be fun to roll this "rifle" through the fields and five more people will run after them carrying "cartridges" ... just an oil painting

[Alex777]

They already made a 23 mm "rifle".
They flew beautifully when shooting.

[YOUR]

23mm rifle, made in the DPR. The name of the complex "Separatist"
https://topwar.ru/142149-doneckiy-separatist-kadry-ispytaniy-sverhmoschnoy-vintovki.html

[Alex777]

Ukrainian "engineers" from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and volunteers may well compete in the absurdity of their "inventions" with their ISIS brothers. They shoot from antique guns and small arms right up to the time of the First World War, while the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the "dobrobats" receive amazing weapons of murder.

It’s not even Maxim machine guns or the “Hammer” mortars, or the sniper rifle “mounted” from the DShK. The new weapon of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a new level in the candidate works for the Darwin Prize.

The machine is from the "Cliff", and half from the 23-mm anti-aircraft mount ZU-23. Yes, they made a sniper rifle from an anti-aircraft spark, which faithfully served in any hands, wherever it may be.

In fact, they left one 23-mm 2A14 machine from the original memory, removing the machine, platform, rotary and balancing mechanism, and anti-aircraft automatic sight. Apparently, this is the fruit of disassembling the machine with a hammer and a chisel.

The expediency of this “tuning” is extremely doubtful, as is the installation of guns on weapon boxes, in which one barrel weighs almost 30 kilograms. Given the presence of a muzzle brake-compensator and a closed room, as well as the absence of tactical headphones or banal earplugs, the “anti-terrorist operation heroes” will soon be in the hospital, with hearing injuries.

[YOUR]

Quite possible. Both of them make almost the same weapon.

[Alex777]

This is "Separ":

This is Banderlog's dream:

[YOUR]

He is. I made a link to these photos and article.

[Alex777]

I read articles IN regularly.
I found a half-gun of the APU on another resource:
https://spec-naz.org/
Outwardly, they differ, although the original source is the same.

[YOUR]

Link to a shared resource. Where is that there is not clear

[Alex777]

How capricious you are.
https://spec-naz.org/index.php?/topic/6032/
Does such a link count?

[YOUR]

So it reads.

[stas Sv]

That's not better based on GSh-23 Three carry, three patricks bring, two more to replace barrels

[novel66]

Lesh, you’re not worried about that, the main thing is a self-liquidator ... it’s more powerful to build in. our to you

[Hunter 2]

Roma I'm just shocked ... who are these "inventions" for ??? Even the most frostbitten one who has at least minimal practical shooting skills will think - something is wrong here ... there are no trunks, no ammunition, no shooters! but still Peremoga

[novel66]

no shooters, by the way, but without that ...

[Hunter 2]

Well, they have all the calculation ... ameriga with them In the USA, there is a rather serious sniper school, its own tactics ... but I doubt very much that Mattress mats will share everything with non-brothers (even if they are, a sniper is a piece of goods for a year or two, it is simply not possible to prepare it). And speaking seriously, for a normal sniper this wunderwaffle is just wasted time and a lot of money on training! Accordingly, the Weapons and Ammunition must be appropriate (and this is Roma - a lot of money, it's easier to buy a tank).

[novel66]

we don't have decent books about snipers ..

[Hunter 2]

Vasily Zaitsev. There was no land for us beyond the Volga. Sniper notes. Memoirs. Read it - interesting!

[novel66]

read ... but with technical details, like here
[media = https: //www.livelib.ru/series/753856-saga-o-bobe-li-svagere]

[Kerensky]

Potapov. But this is a tutorial.

[novel66]

is there a reference?

[Kerensky]

I have it in paper form. And, unfortunately, not at home. The author is exactly Potapov, and the name "The Art of the Sniper"?
Don Miller is not ours, but I have his Sniper on my shelf.
A.V. Sotnikov "Antikiller" is also looking at me from the shelf.

[Catfish]

Hi Aleksey.
I, too, podofigel when I read about the inset barrel. Make a high-precision weapon on an ersatz barrel? Hmmm ... you can't forbid living beautifully. How will the bullet walk there at a distance of 1 - 1,5 km?

[Hunter 2]

Greetings Konstantin If you're lucky, you can get into ... Steam locomotive, shot from the fifth
It is utter nonsense to work with the 14.5 / 114 caliber at all - high-precision ammunition for it does not exist in nature, and in Ukraine they are not produced at all. They can only buy it in Romania.

[Catfish]

Well, for example, the "quality" of the Romanian clones of Kalashnikov is well known.

[Hunter 2]

However, ammunition (Soviet calibers) - the Romanians do quite well, Demand - makes you work for quality, and the demand for these ammunition is simply Huge (a good increase to the budget) and they are not going to refuse to release them! Half of the world is armed with Soviet weapons ... It's bad that Russia is missing out on the ammunition market.

[Catfish]

It's bad that Russia is missing out on the ammunition market.

And what is the problem, Barnaul alone cannot cope, or is it a question of price?

[Hunter 2]

There are a lot of factors ... and domestic gunpowder, and production capacities, and legislation ... Russia simply will not sell ammunition to many "buyers" (from groups banned in the Russian Federation), we lose many for political reasons ... and traditions, too no one canceled, if they are used to buying in a certain place, they will take it there. The market for ammunition is growing simply Multiple. You need to think about how to neatly integrate into it. I gave only superficial reasons.

[Catfish]

I read that Bulgarian ammunition is quoted quite high on the world market, but I have not heard about Romanians or Poles. By the way, in the GDR they used to produce our 7,62x39, but how now, do you know?

[Hunter 2]

Konstantin, as far as I know All enterprises producing ammunition for Soviet weapons located in partner countries in the now defunct Warsaw bloc ... have been modernized and are working in almost three shifts! We do not intend to refuse to release our ammunition! The demand for them is simply Huge.
It is a pity that we have lost some of the capacity.

[113262a]

Who said about ERZATS! The inserted barrels repeat the ballistics of a standard tank gun shell. For the T-62 and earlier, they worked with 23 mm shells, those samsy, from Shilka and ZU-shki. And in 72,64 and 80 with a D-30 cannon, it is 14,5 mm, with a patronogram from KPVT. Or PTRS. As you wish!

[Catfish]

The PTRS cartridge in a sniper rifle is definitely impressive.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Hunter 2

Where will they get ammunition for high-precision shooting ???

You can shoot not at the target, but towards the target. Maybe someday there will be a hit.

[Cossack 471]

Kamrad. please enlighten the anti-aircraft missile officer. what is a tank gun insert?

[Hunter 2]

Simplified ... in order not to waste expensive tank shells, a smaller caliber insert is placed in a standard tank gun.It is similar in ballistic characteristics, respectively, a shot is fired with just this ammunition, an actual imitation of the operation of a Tank gun for less money takes place, a full-fledged crew training with a visible result of firing.

[Yellow bubble]

The heroes have experienced on their own, Let their trident be shoved into the gun anally !!!

[mark1]

What about barrel "precision"? I remember that they order a "precision" barrel in the west to their gun, but then at such distances ... or do they plan to use an armor piercing from 200-300 m?

[mark1]

By the way - why is "Predator" night? So that there are no complaints about accuracy *

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mark1

By the way - why is "Predator" night? So that there are no complaints about accuracy *

Because ...

[mark1]

A-ah-ah !!! Here it is! And there is a predator and the night ... you will not dig in!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mark1

And there is a predator and the night ... you will not dig in!

And on top of that, he sees nothing.

[APASUS]

The rifle's firing range is said to exceed 3,5 kilometers.

It is not enough to have such weapons, you also need to have trained shooters. To hit the target, for 1500 m units can

[Alex777]

They will not have time to learn.

[yehat2]

what is difficult from a small-caliber cannon with a normal sight to hit at a distance with a sane flatness? Learn to count primitive range corrections and that's it.
moreover, at distances of up to 2 km, they may well beat with bursts of cannons.

[Alex777]

And what do we need mortars for?

[yehat2]

good place to collect cigarette butts. One mortar is enough for half a year.

[novel66]

and suddenly shoot? and where is the ashtray?

[seregatara1969]

Anti-tank crews 2 km from their cannon hit a silicate brick on a dispute. Also snipers

[yehat2]

Quote: seregatara1969

2 km from your cannon

this is what the soldiers are doing.
and only parasites, pests, marauders, thieves and the poor remained in the Armed Forces.
look at all their new developments - shit and run away.

[7,62x54]

Another prodigy rework

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Every day, forelock, something "is going to be fixed."

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

are going to fix it. "

And all from the Soviet storerooms! Kulibins, damn it ...
PS And judging by the minuses in your comments, the chubaty didn't like them hefty!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I noticed for a long time that the forelocks love to put cons in my comments. And not only in mine. Looks like they ran to this site after Maidans and cleaning toilets.

[Alex777]

Every day, forelock, something "is going to be fixed."

They're going to shit. During the "truce". They jump.

[Reserve buildbat]

As I understand it, they just welded a piece of rail with a new trigger and, of course, a piccatini bar on the insert. Without her, nowhere, as without a trash can.

[Incvizitor]

Here is a wonderful thing, it will immediately unmask it and you will change the position with it to hell, probably in two bodies, like drag.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Painfully, the muffler resembles a heat exchanger from a moonshine still.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

That is why you said about the heat exchanger? You undermine the defenses of the forelock army. After all, they will remove all the mufflers and exchange them for moonshine, in the nearest villages. )

[yehat2]

Quote: novel xnumx

and suddenly shoot? and where is the ashtray?

technique is imperfect

[dgonni]

Such a weapon. With positioning, something can. And then you need to equip the position before that like a mortar. Narrow specialization and in fact unnecessary.

[voyaka uh]

Any snipers at ultra-long ranges only shoot
on fixed targets. And before shooting must equip themselves
comfortable spot.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: voyaka uh

Any snipers at ultra-long ranges only shoot
on fixed targets. And before shooting must equip themselves
comfortable spot.

In the "realities of Ukraine" it will be easier to take ATGM "Corsair" (RK-3 Corsair)

The point is not to suffer with the hit of a "bullet" through precise aiming and calculation of corrections, but to launch a "small guided missile". The offer is calculated on the basis of the destruction of "material objects" (tank, armored vehicles, bunker ...).

[voyaka uh]

I agree with you. I also believe that at distances close to 1 km
it is more profitable to use a small ATGM.
But snipers have their own professional ... "guild".
They pride themselves on ultra-long hits
and with their wound rifles.

[Kerensky]

This is a weapon for shooting at targets such as a steam locomotive or a helicopter on the ground.

[iouris]

Soviet machine guns with silencers.

[113262a]

By the way, it is the sofa that are criticizing! In fact, the insert barrels are really high-precision. They almost completely copy the ballistics of standard shells and, with proper zeroing, give sniper accuracy at distances up to 2200 m. Although, this accuracy is due to the centering of the barrel in the breech and the barrel of the main gun - the system is very rigid. With a free installation, the rigidity will no longer be the same. The quality of the barrels is very decent, not consumer goods for sure! Most likely, all this is a legacy from the USSR, since each tank was equipped with such a device, but was used for company 1-2. The rest were stored in warehouses. And mountains lay on Malyshev of this good.

[Cowbra]

By the way, this is the day of military intelligence. So ... hint

[Gregory Charnota]

wherever the Russians left, only degradation and desolation

[Yellow bubble]

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