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Chinese investor in Ukrainian Motor Sich: Kiev's sanctions against us are barbaric robbery

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Kiev's sanctions against Skyrizon, a Chinese investor in the Ukrainian Motor Sich plant, are a barbaric robbery. They are a gross violation of the legal rights of the company's shareholders.


This is stated in the official statement of the Skyrizon company, published in the Chinese press and on a specially created website dedicated to the extraordinary meeting of shareholders of the Ukrainian company Motor Sich.

An investor from China is going to use all legal remedies to protect his rights, including international arbitration. He believes that as a result of the imposition of sanctions against him by the Ukrainian authorities, the company will lose the ability to dispose of its property, terminate business relations with the Motor Sich plant and incur tangible losses. The Chinese side called Kiev's actions "unprecedented disrespect for the rules and principles of international trade."

Since the decree of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky does not indicate the reasons why the Chinese company is subject to sanctions, Skyrizon suggested that the Ukrainian leadership decided to prevent Chinese investments in the Motor Sich enterprise on external orders. It was noted that Kiev refused to negotiate, thereby excluding all possibilities for reconciliation.

Sanctions against a company are erroneous and stupid actions that can only scare away potential investors from all over the world from Ukraine, finally drive the already dying one into a hopeless situation. aviation industry of Ukraine. When actions are performed contrary to common sense, trust is completely lost, criminals are shamelessly covered up, all this leads to contempt from the entire world community.

- the Chinese investor said in a statement.

The Motor Sich plant is the largest Ukrainian manufacturer of aircraft engines and industrial gas turbine units. In 2016, the Chinese company Skyrizon acquired 56 percent of the company's shares. But the very next year they were arrested by the Security Service of Ukraine.

Now the total amount of the company's claims, which it intends to collect from the Ukrainian authorities, is $ 3,5 billion.

As you know, Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed an order on sanctions against Chinese investors a few days after a similar decision was made in the United States.
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https://uk-ua.facebook.com/motorsich1
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      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 31 January 2021 17: 29
        +41
        China is Ukraine's main trading partner, both in terms of exports and imports. In second place is Russia, with which relations are also not very good and will not improve in the near future. But from the helpers, all the help is to pat on the shoulder and say: "Gut Voldemar, seer gut))))
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 31 January 2021 19: 05
          +15
          Neither the United States nor Russia needs the "too smart" China to buy Soviet aircraft technology cheaply.
          So here the interests of the United States and the Russian Federation coincided. And Ukraine has no chance to somehow get out of the situation.
          China will have enough of an aircraft carrier for a penny and a prototype of the Su-33. hi
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 31 January 2021 20: 06
            +15
            Yes, everything has already been bought on the sly, including RD - 95, for the Kyrgyz Republic. Much more sold than you think. Where does China get powerful ship-based gas turbine engines? From Nikolaev))))
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 1 February 2021 00: 53
              +1
              Now let the States beat glass and unhook the cars to Ukraine and China. It plays into our hands. bully
            2. bayard
              bayard 1 February 2021 01: 44
              +9
              Quote: TermNachTER
              Much more sold than you think. Where does China get powerful ship-based gas turbine engines? From Nikolaev))))

              And where did they get solid-fuel technologies for ICBMs and IRBMs? At Yuzhmash, the Chinese began to recruit specialists from the early to mid-90s ... and they made progress in such a complex matter.
              And, by the way, in France, the solid fuel theme went after the emigration there of the former Plant No. 55 (Himmash), where TT was manufactured and equipped in the stage of the Molodets and Typhoon ICBMs.
              It was necessary in 2014 to return their own, and now they would not have hemorrhoids with the outskirts of the former Empire.
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 31 January 2021 19: 12
          +10
          Quote: TermNachTER
          all help is to pat on the shoulder and say: "Gut Woldemar, seer gut))))

          There is one more lol
          1. volodimer
            volodimer 1 February 2021 15: 15
            0
            Khokhluina, she is like that "non-commissioned officer's widow" ... That's what it means not to read Gogol. I forgot, he's Russian laughing
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 31 January 2021 18: 31
        +3
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Ukraine does not care about the PRC, the latter has no leverage on Ukraine ... (under the new government in Ukraine, nothing binds them), which never for the first time throws the PRC ...
        Ukraine denied the PRC access to a high-tech enterprise (its remnants), a scientific school and impending projects ... for this, the empiricalists and the USA and the EU will only slap Ukraine on the shoulder and "throw money on life" ...

        They slap the President of Ukraine and several Radovtsy on the shoulder, throw 30 pieces of silver on the life of several, maybe they will also say "Okay!" that's all. But China can arrange a little for Kuzka's mother. How many Ukrainians work in China ?! And if China arranges for them to be deported home, without severance pay? They will be put on the border with Kazakhstan and moved below the belt. How will Zelensky and Co. feel then ?!
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 31 January 2021 19: 13
          +13
          Quote: Starover_Z
          How will Zelensky and Co. feel then ?!

          No way. He wanted to spit on these guest workers
          1. Machito
            Machito 31 January 2021 21: 00
            +2
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: Starover_Z
            How will Zelensky and Co. feel then ?!

            No way. He wanted to spit on these guest workers

            The landing in Odessa will be more convincing.
        2. Black lotos
          Black lotos 31 January 2021 22: 48
          0
          Quote: Starover_Z
          How many Ukrainians work in China ?! And if China arranges for them a deportation home, without severance pay

          Google says that not everything is clear.
          The historical diaspora is about 20 thousand (they also settled from the Far East) - these are Manchuria, Harbin, Shanghai, Xianggang, Beijing.
          At the time of the epidemic, there were 10 thousand Ukrainians (not ethnic)
          Many were evacuated (there was even a scandal with them)
          There is an Association of Ukrainian Students and Graduates of Chinese Universities. Exchanges and training.
          But now, due to the pandemic in the world, the numbers are not clear. One thing is clear that the Chinese job market is not massive for Ukrainians abroad.
          Far away and dangerous.
      3. Ruslan Sledkov
        Ruslan Sledkov 31 January 2021 20: 30
        0
        They wrote that the Chinese had time to take out the assembly line.
    2. Finches
      Finches 31 January 2021 16: 47
      +12
      I give a standing ovation! laughing
      1. Finches
        Finches 31 January 2021 16: 58
        +43
        I even remembered an anecdote:

        Ukrainian-Russian border, neutral strip. Here on this neutral zone a wolf falls into a trap. Howls terribly day and night. Well, three days later, our border guards got tired of listening to this and they call their Ukrainian colleagues at the outpost: - Hey, Ukrainians, take your wolf already, otherwise you don't have the strength to listen to his cries! - Why did you, Muscovites, decide that this is our Ukrainian wolf ?! - Duc, and whose else? Three paws have already bitten off and are still in a trap !!! laughing
      2. 210ox
        210ox 31 January 2021 17: 02
        +3
        That's for sure ... Robbing! And do nothing. Well, maybe science will be worth dealing with such a loss.
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 31 January 2021 16: 52
      +21
      Quote: BIABIA
      A cool solution is to fall out with China. The hedgehogs were injected, but they continued to eat cacti ...

      And who were they, the Chinese, and for what place pulled them there? Didn't they believe us? Have you decided on your own skin to test the ability of the Outskirts to do business? Or was it a huge secret for them that American ears would stick out from behind every bush?

      Now they want to sue ... Well, well ... God help ... Well this is with Gazprom Outskirts are suing and any invented stupidity can win - the trial is "international". For the same reason, there is no chance for China there.

      The Chinese did not believe us - it didn’t come through our ears. Comes through your pocket. When will the same Germany, for example, grow wiser? He will stop listening to the Okrainskie Wishlist and start thinking about his pocket.

      If the Tribals or, say, the Poles would get in a mess, I would understand. But the Chinese ... I honestly thought they were a little smarter ...
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 31 January 2021 18: 17
        +7
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Now they want to sue ... Well, well ... God help ... Well this is with Gazprom Outskirts are suing and any invented stupidity can win - the trial is "international". For the same reason, there is no chance for China there.

        Along the way, litigation with Ukraine is useless. Maybe now the Chinese comrades will understand that there is nothing more senseless than doing business with Ukraine. China now needs to resolve the issue with the most generous and independent Ukrainians, and this is at least the American ambassador in Kueva, and at the most the head of the US State Department, because the chairman of the commission on the elimination of Ukraine, Shurik Zelensky, is not responsible for anything, and does not affect anything.
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 31 January 2021 23: 25
        +2
        I, too, think they themselves decided to do business with the barbarians, and then they are surprised at the barbaric plunder on their part.
      3. bk316
        bk316 1 February 2021 21: 27
        +1
        If the Tribals or, say, the Poles would get in a mess, I would understand.

        But there is no just Tribals and the Poles understand everything about 404 .... And they won't invest a hryvnia there.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 21: 48
          0
          Quote: bk316
          But no, just Tribals and Poles understand everything about 404 ... and they won't invest a hryvnia there.

          Especially would not have invested if there was something to invest. There are tribals - their pride, a symbol, one might say, of independence - sprats, and they ditched. There is no money, and the European Union did not give sprats. French and Italian anchovies are much closer and dearer to him than Tribaltian sprats ...
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 31 January 2021 17: 18
      +4
      Quote: BIABIA
      A cool solution is to fall out with China. The hedgehogs were injected, but they continued to eat cacti ..

      Already swallow not a hook, but a "jager" which is no longer possible to spit out.
    5. Civil
      Civil 31 January 2021 17: 41
      -3
      I recognize Ukrainians, Slavic kidok in release)
    6. Alien From
      Alien From 31 January 2021 18: 08
      +4
      Now non-brothers learn Lavrov's phrase) laughing
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 22: 00
        +1
        Quote: Alien From
        Now non-brothers learn Lavrov's phrase) laughing

        But you could get a bunch of nishtyaks from the Chinese from the Chinese if you thought with your own head, and not with your American ass. Here, at VO, one of our Israeli colleagues told us how surprisingly quickly and coolly the Chinese in Israel either built two ports or moorings. And they would have invested in Motorsich, and the non-brothers would have had money from the engines, which they could spank for Chinese fighters. If only the suburb didn't smell so sweet from the American dupa. Could have become some kind of, but Chinese partners, but remained an American bedding ...
        1. Alien From
          Alien From 2 February 2021 02: 15
          +1
          These are their problems!"
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 31 January 2021 16: 35
    -9
    I am far from jurisprudence, but what then should one call all that "photocopying" of techniques and technologies that the Chinese "comrades" have been carrying out over the past decades?
    But ran into such a violation of the rules of the game, so immediately yelled about honesty?
    1. kot423
      kot423 31 January 2021 16: 44
      +17
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But ran into such a violation of the rules of the game, so immediately yelled about honesty?

      You are trying to compare warm with soft.
      Example: 1. I liked your renovation and I made myself exactly the same
      2. I borrowed a sum of money from you, and then at the request (order) of a neighbor from above - I sent you instead of giving back.
      There is a difference?
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 31 January 2021 16: 46
        -10%
        No, I don't. Both there and there - a gross violation of generally accepted laws. Or do you think that some laws are more legal than others?
        The repair example is not correct.
        We are talking about individual property.
        1. kot423
          kot423 31 January 2021 16: 48
          +8
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Or do you think

          No, I don't. But then again - the copyright law (patent) is nothing compared to a direct scam, and even on orders. Different weight categories.
          1. Avior
            Avior 31 January 2021 17: 47
            +6
            You just don't know what the problem is.
            They immediately paid money to the owner, although first they had to first obtain state permission for the consolidation of part of the shares.
            And they did not receive permission.
            They deceived themselves
            1. paco.soto
              paco.soto 31 January 2021 19: 04
              -4
              Avior
              Today, 17: 47

              +2
              You just don't know what the problem is.
              They immediately paid money to the owner, although first they had to first obtain state permission for the consolidation of part of the shares.
              And they did not receive permission.
              They deceived themselves
              Reply © ©
              Thank you for this comment, ya knew it, but I already wanted to google this situation, post here and collect minuses from members of the forum who are far from the topic.
              By the way: the loan to Yanukovych is also not winnable in the international legal format for a similar reason - the sad letters of the laws of Russia were violated there.
            2. bk316
              bk316 1 February 2021 21: 31
              0
              They deceived themselves

              And to hell with them with the Chinese. They have a lot of money.
              The main thing is that now NOBODY will have any business with 404. The fairy tale annexation of war and other force majeure will no longer work.
              And the Chinese will take their toll sooner or later, they know how. Well, if Hong Kong was taken back from the Anglics after 100 years, then really these wretched covetous people won’t return 3 yards. laughing
              1. Avior
                Avior 1 February 2021 22: 03
                0
                You just have self-belief
                Nobody takes Shkirizon's problems seriously
                And the Chinese too, by the way
                How they worked with the Motor, so they work
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      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 31 January 2021 17: 22
        +3
        Quote: kot423
        I borrowed a sum of money from you, and then, at the request (order) of a neighbor from above, I sent you instead of giving back.

        And tomorrow I'll come and ask for more money in debt. Everything can be expected from these lads.
      3. Puppeteer 111
        Puppeteer 111 31 January 2021 22: 41
        -2
        Only borrowed not from you, but from a third person. And he did not send at the request of a neighbor from above, but asked for legal grounds for claiming a debt or taking over ownership
    2. businessv
      businessv 31 January 2021 20: 44
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But ran into such a violation of the rules of the game, so immediately yelled about honesty?

      a little misunderstood, colleague! The fact is that the Chinese were counting on this enterprise to produce gas turbine engines for their needs, and at the same time master the production technologies, but the minke whales did not like it terribly - after all, this is not necessary for the square to have at least somewhere good, and at the same time, the Chinese will screw not directly, although everyone understands where the wind is blowing from and where the caravan is heading.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 31 January 2021 21: 45
        +1
        Quote: businessv
        the Chinese counted on this enterprise to produce gas turbine engines for their needs, and at the same time to master the production technologies

        Rather, they could count on "their" enterprise - in the past 2020, an industrial complex, research and management units, with an investment volume of 20 billion yuan (2,8 billion dollars), should have been earned near the Liangjiang settlement of the Guangxi Autonomous Province .. ...
        1. businessv
          businessv 31 January 2021 22: 01
          +1
          Quote: BrTurin
          Rather, they could count on "their" enterprise - in the past 2020, an industrial complex was supposed to start working near the Liangjiang settlement of the Guangxi Autonomous Province
          You inattentively read the article - 2016 is the time when what you write about was not even in the plans! And today the question arose: where will they get the technology for this complex? Where you read about it was not written about it? China has a goal not only to invest in foreign companies in order to make a profit, but also to get technology in the appendage, as a bonus. This has been happening for over a decade in all industries and around the world.
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 31 January 2021 22: 19
            +1
            Quote: businessv
            2016 is the time when what you write about was not even in the plans

            In 2016, it was not, and in 2018 - Motor Sich and the Chinese industrial consortium Skyrizon Aviation will build a plant in the PRC to produce engines for aircraft and helicopters. This project was presented at the 12th international aerospace exhibition Airshow China 2018 ... (link below) ... if the project is presented ... then there were some agreements about production specifically to China (what technologies were transferred there. .. but something had to be different meaning - research units) ... and these investments may be included in the lawsuit
            1. businessv
              businessv 1 February 2021 12: 22
              +1
              Quote: BrTurin
              it means there were some agreements about production specifically to China (what technologies were transferred there ... but something had to be different meaning - research units) ... and these investments may be included in the lawsuit
              The fact of the matter is that these agreements did not suit the minke and the Square backed up! Hence the sanctions, and the dissatisfaction of investors, and the uncertainty of what to do next?
              1. Brturin
                Brturin 1 February 2021 12: 58
                0
                Quote: businessv
                unclear what to do next

                It seems that there are only courts next ... Yesterday Ze gave an interview to the Americans - his position on the sale - "Never. Not during my tenure. I am not here for life ... In my time - definitely not."
  3. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 31 January 2021 16: 38
    +4
    "When actions are performed contrary to common sense, trust is completely lost, criminals are shamelessly covered up, all this leads to contempt from the entire world community." said in China.
    In Russia they would say: "We are upset by such an unfriendly step of our Ukrainian partners and hope that this unpleasant situation will soon be considered at a meeting of the foreign ministers of Russia and Ukraine."
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 31 January 2021 16: 54
      0
      Quote: stock buildbat
      "When actions are performed contrary to common sense, trust is completely lost, criminals are shamelessly covered up, all this leads to contempt from the entire world community." said in China.
      In Russia they would say: "We are upset by such an unfriendly step of our Ukrainian partners and hope that this unpleasant situation will soon be considered at a meeting of the foreign ministers of Russia and Ukraine."

      The words seem to be different, but the meaning is the same. Or rather, none. Strange ...
    2. paco.soto
      paco.soto 31 January 2021 19: 11
      -1
      Reserve buildbat
      Today, 16: 38
      +1
      "When actions are performed contrary to common sense, trust is completely lost, criminals are shamelessly covered up, all this leads to contempt from the entire world community." said in China.
      In Russia they would say: "We are upset by such an unfriendly step of our Ukrainian partners and hope that this unpleasant situation will soon be considered at a meeting of the foreign ministers of Russia and Ukraine."
      Reply © ©
      You +, very good comment.
  4. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 31 January 2021 16: 40
    +3
    3,5 lard for China, 2 lard for the IMF, this year is not sweet for non-brothers.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 31 January 2021 20: 47
      +1
      There is a formula: "To everyone I owe, I forgive." And this forgiveness is the maximum that the Chinese can get from a 404 country.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 31 January 2021 23: 42
      +4
      It was not sweet with the pastry chef and not funny with the clown.
  5. bar
    bar 31 January 2021 16: 41
    +8
    An investor from China is going to use all legal remedies to protect his rights, including international arbitration.

    We at one time already seemed to use "all means up to ...", and even seemed to have won. But they never saw their 3 yards, given to Yanukovych as a loan. So good luck to the Chinese in their hopeless business, and a fair wind in the hunchbacked back. laughing
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 31 January 2021 17: 25
      +4
      Quote: bar
      But they never saw their 3 yards, given to Yanukovych as a loan.

      Thank God that it was 3 yards, but they wanted to give 12 lard in general. Swept away from the wicked.
  6. ccsr
    ccsr 31 January 2021 16: 42
    +1
    Now the total amount of the company's claims, which it intends to collect from the Ukrainian authorities, is $ 3,5 billion.

    This show is worth watching - it is interesting how the European courts (if they chose them for arbitration) will behave towards the Chinese. So that we then gain experience how to lower Svidomo.
  7. Avior
    Avior 31 January 2021 16: 44
    -5
    And when the Chinese copy someone else's intellectual property without a twinge of conscience, this is the most honest way of doing business :))
    Interestingly, Motor Sich has no problems with the Chinese - both with Shkirizon and with others
    1. Kuzmitsky
      31 January 2021 16: 59
      +12
      If the Chinese violate someone's rights. they can be taken to court, which will understand. When there are no official complaints, it means that everyone is happy with everything.
      They violated the rights of the Chinese - they are not silent, but defend them. Doing it right. And Russia should always do this, even if justice is far from always impartial.
      1. Avior
        Avior 31 January 2021 17: 40
        +5
        The Chinese, too, let them sue, let them figure out who violated them and what.
        1. Kuzmitsky
          31 January 2021 17: 43
          +4
          That's exactly what I'm talking about. And they, by the way, are going to solve the issue.
          1. Avior
            Avior 31 January 2021 17: 59
            +3
            Collecting does not mean winning the court
            At the heart of the conflict is Shkirizon's desire to take over actions bypassing the law, no arbitration will support this, this is obvious to everyone, including the Chinese themselves.
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 31 January 2021 20: 54
              0
              Quote: Avior
              Collecting does not mean winning the court

              And even having won, get a writ of execution in your hands and receive a writ of execution, as they said in Odessa even before independence and independence, two big differences.
      2. Black lotos
        Black lotos 31 January 2021 23: 01
        +2
        Quote: Kuzmitsky
        If the Chinese violate someone's rights. they can be taken to court, which will understand

        well, for example about copying.
        Concern GM, which owns the Daewoo brand, filed a lawsuit against the Chinese company in 2005. However, the Americans failed to punish Chery for violating intellectual property rights. According to the court decision, Chery QQ was not recognized as an exact copy of Daewoo Matiz - it is larger and has an increased wheelbase.
        Fiat has filed a lawsuit against Chinese carmaker Great Wall, but a Turin court banned Great Wall from selling the mini-car in Europe. As a result of the proceedings, the Chinese company was fined for plagiarism. True, the Italians failed to achieve the same in China. The Shijiazhuang City People's Court ruled in favor of its automaker and said there were significant differences between the models. Fiat had to reimburse the costs of the process.
        BMW v Shuanghuan SCEO. The Munich City Court in 2008 banned the implementation of SCEO in Germany. But in other countries, the management of the BMW concern has not achieved success.
        It took Honda Motor 12 years to win a case in China against a little-known local automaker. All this time, the brand copied the look of the CR-V SUV. As a result, the Japanese company received only 16 million yuan ($ 2,43 million) in compensation instead of the expected 300 million.
        Very difficult to prove. Then he won in a Chinese court (well, to ban the manufacturer in China). Yes, and you need to win in all successive courts where the market for copies is.
        And that's not a fact. Likewise, in order to win the case against the Chinese MS, you need to win the Ukrainian court in Ukraine! And what will be there somewhere is most likely spelled out in the documents. We have not seen them.
        In general, you can sue there until the end of the century. No court outside the US and the EU will award the Chinese people at least one share if the internal laws (interests of these countries) are violated. And in Ukraine it is useless to sue a Ukrainian company as well as a Chinese one in China.
  8. Cowbra
    Cowbra 31 January 2021 16: 44
    +16
    The last time China made an advance payment of 1 billion and did not receive grain, they simply confiscated the State Grain Company with all the terminals, grain storage facilities and port facilities from the Outskirts. and they took Antonov and Motorsich's documentation for delivery. Now - 3,5 lard, but there is nothing to sell laughing
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 31 January 2021 17: 27
      +1
      Quote: Cowbra
      Now - 3,5 lard, but there is nothing to sell

      Land - which is what the Chinese want to get.
    2. Dimide
      Dimide 31 January 2021 17: 49
      +1
      From here in more detail, with links please
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 31 January 2021 18: 48
        0
        https://latifundist.com/kompanii/229-gpzku
        There is a smoothed version. Direct links flashed only in 2014-15, how to look for them now - I don't know
        1. Black lotos
          Black lotos 1 February 2021 00: 11
          0
          Quote: Cowbra
          I do not know

          according to your link there is the main
          The subject of consideration in GAFTA is controversial issues in the interpretation of contracts that arose between the State Food and Grain Corporation and CCEC around certain volumes of grain, which were traded in 2013.
          2016 - the corporation managed to establish a dialogue with Chinese partners, as evidenced by the restoration of grain supplies to the Chinese corporation from CCEC.
          here is a link to the current state of affairs
          https://agroportal.ua/news/novosti-kompanii/gpzku-proigrala-sud-kitaiskoi-ccec-na-4-mln/
          the key dispute is at what point
          The Chinese side believes that in accordance with Appendix No. 3, for each ton of grain exported by the State Food and Grain Corporation not only to China, but also to any other country, the corporation is obliged to pay the Chinese CCEC $ 5 commission. And this is in addition to payments of interest on the loan and payment for its maintenance.

          owe the Chinese another 1 billion and another two hundred million dollars. should by court
      2. Xenofont
        Xenofont 31 January 2021 21: 06
        0
        The fetid Yanuca actually gave them the lands of Crimea, but did not have time. Here the Chinese flew great. And now who will let them go to the land with such Skaklyat rulers?
  9. gloomy
    gloomy 31 January 2021 16: 47
    -1
    I honestly thought the Chinese are smarter.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 January 2021 16: 52
    +8
    The Chinese investor is still a vulture there ... I guess he won't get anything. Courts ... but where are they, fair European courts? But the Chinese do not forget grievances ... They will remember on occasion ...
    1. Xenofont
      Xenofont 31 January 2021 21: 08
      +1
      The Chinese are omnivorous, but morality and ethics are alien to them: there will be profit, there will be business.
  11. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 31 January 2021 17: 04
    +2
    And how can you call investors in a country ruled by inadequate politicians with the support of the Nazis, during a civil war and the introduction of sanctions against their own economy? Correct: DB. I don't mind such people.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 31 January 2021 17: 14
    +2
    Always did not understand how you can impose sanctions against the pressure of the Americans and get nothing in return? China did not buy Motor Sich, let the Americans buy it, but no
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 31 January 2021 17: 24
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      Always did not understand how you can impose sanctions against the pressure of the Americans and get nothing in return? China did not buy Motor Sich, let the Americans buy it, but no

      Who said they didn't get anything in return? 1. The order of the owners was carried out. 2. Who got what for it, so the press will not write about it
  13. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 31 January 2021 17: 27
    +3
    Kiev's sanctions against Skyrizon, a Chinese investor in the Ukrainian Motor Sich plant, are a barbaric robbery. They are a gross violation of the legal rights of the company's shareholders.


    Welcome to the real world ruins))))
  14. prior
    prior 31 January 2021 17: 31
    +1
    Oh, how much petroleum jelly will it take now for their tricky asses!
  15. Dimide
    Dimide 31 January 2021 17: 44
    0
    Today there was supposed to be a meeting of shareholders, but it did not take place due to the intervention of the SBU at the request of small shareholders who were not invited to the meeting and the decisions of the NSDC
    1. Avior
      Avior 31 January 2021 18: 02
      +3
      The shares of the Chinese are blocked, they have no legal right to hold a meeting, no matter how Yaroslavsky puffs up
  16. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 31 January 2021 17: 48
    -2
    Nezalestnost-when fshists and pi.dosy decide who owns the 404 ...
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 31 January 2021 22: 04
      -1
      Ugh, Chinese and pins, the phone rules.
  17. Avior
    Avior 31 January 2021 17: 56
    +2
    The Shkirizons were supposed to first get permission to enlarge the block of shares, but since they were used to acting impudently and with bribes, they decided to do so this time too. But it didn't work out, and they had already paid the money to the owner of the enterprise.
    But they did not receive permission for enlargement.
    And their shares were stuck - the money was paid for them to the owner, and there was no permission to register shares.
    China as a state has no claims to Ukraine, it cooperates perfectly with Motor
    As for the Chinese lawsuit, its prospects are zero, it's noise for the sake of noise.
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 31 January 2021 18: 31
      -1
      I don’t understand at all how more than half of the shares of an enterprise from the “red list” could end up in private “Chinese” hands. According to the law, 51% is in the hands of the state, and there are also small shareholders.
      Scam however.
  18. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 31 January 2021 18: 09
    +4
    You, gentlemen, Chinese, are not playing cards with those.
    UA! .. this is such a territory ... Where all of China will dissolve into dust. You won't even have time to understand how ?! You gave three milliards to the guys ... You should also stay ...
    Here the entrance is a ruble / exit is three! ..
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 31 January 2021 19: 12
      +4
      Beni K's motto ....... ugh Ukraine:
      "Only fuckers pay debts"
  19. rocket757
    rocket757 31 January 2021 18: 57
    +2
    Chinese investor in Ukrainian Motor Sich: Kiev's sanctions against us are barbaric robbery

    Who does not risk ... that will not be robbed!
    1. cniza
      cniza 31 January 2021 20: 15
      +3
      The situation is, of course, very funny, but here the horses can, oh, how to fly ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 January 2021 22: 50
        +1
        It's all the same to the Cardinal, just another gallantry, for him, a consumable.
  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 January 2021 19: 03
    0
    laughing Get used to "business" in Ukrainian. laughing
  21. Kushka
    Kushka 31 January 2021 19: 11
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    The Chinese, too, let them sue, let them figure out who and what violated them.

    The parishioner father says that you raped her.
    I have to interrogate you.
    -It's your business.
    -She will sue you.
    - It's her business.
    -The court will put you in jail.
    - It's his business.
    -You will go to jail.
    -It's my business.
    1. Avior
      Avior 31 January 2021 19: 17
      +1
      In this case, the Chinese have no chance
      They don't believe in them
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 31 January 2021 19: 21
        0
        Thanks. I'm a teapot in these matters.
        And I don’t understand - they themselves say what they wanted
        invest 250 million, but they are not given
        to use "their property".
        And 3,5 lard from where, why not 35?
        1. Avior
          Avior 31 January 2021 20: 25
          0
          They took it from the ceiling.
          In fact, the judgment is for information noise. They gave up part of their shares to a local Ukrainian "resolver" named Yaroslavsky
        2. Brturin
          Brturin 31 January 2021 20: 59
          0
          Quote: Kushka
          And 3,5 lard from where

          As an option - compensation for the plant (they didn’t build, they didn’t understand, but they wrote that they were building ...)
          The Ukrainian company Motor Sich and the Chinese industrial consortium Skyrizon Aviation will build a plant in China to produce engines for aircraft and helicopters. This project was presented at the 12th international aerospace exhibition Airshow China 2018, which ended on November 11 in Zhuhai (Guangzhou province) ... the plant will produce AI-322F engines for the L-15 Hongdu trainer aircraft under a Ukrainian license. -436-148FM and MS-500V-S for An-158, An-178 and L-410 transport aircraft, as well as TV3-117VMA-SBM1V for Mi-8 helicopters. The enterprise will be located near Liangjiang, Guangxi Autonomous Province https://tass.ru/ekonomika/5784269
          1. Avior
            Avior 31 January 2021 23: 34
            0
            Construction was stopped, nothing was built
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 1 February 2021 00: 00
              0
              Quote: Avior
              Construction stopped

              If they stopped, then some document was concluded, and now the other party (the Chinese) can claim compensation (excluding force majeure) ...
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 31 January 2021 21: 05
      +2
      The nun (M), covered in snot, enters the abbess (H).
      M: Mother, I went to confession to Father Seraphim, and he, cursed, deprived me of my innocence, Aaaaaaaaaa!
      N: Answer me, my daughter, in what way did he perpetrate this indecency?
      M: Not by any means, mother, but by something like a candle.

      This is the "kind of candle" the Chinese will have. Well, or they will have it. And rightly so. And nefig them to portray innocence, they themselves have a snout in the fluff.
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 31 January 2021 21: 49
        0
        Class!
        - Father, I want to repent.
        -Okay, my daughter, how many times have I sinned,
        so many times and walk around the church.
        -Oh, then I'm on a bike!
    3. Black lotos
      Black lotos 1 February 2021 00: 14
      0
      Quote: Kushka
      -It's my business.

      like initially
      One day at breakfast, the wife turns to the English lord:
      “James, our maid is pregnant.
      - It's her business.
      - Yes, but a child from you!
      - It's my business.
      - Well, okay, but what am I to do?
      - And this is your business!
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 1 February 2021 13: 19
        0
        Well, if we crossed the English Channel ....
        Lord in the morning stands at the window and looks at the Thames.
        Butler enters with breakfast.
        “I did it today, Jonathan.
        - I congratulate you, sir!
  22. Pardus22
    Pardus22 31 January 2021 19: 39
    +2
    A rogue state. A new type of state. Here "dill" is ahead of the rest.
    1. Viktor Afanasev
      Viktor Afanasev 31 January 2021 20: 57
      0
      Whether Ukraine exists as a "state" is a big question ...
  23. cniza
    cniza 31 January 2021 20: 13
    +3
    Kiev's sanctions against Skyrizon, a Chinese investor in the Ukrainian Motor Sich plant, are a barbaric robbery.


    They will also make the horses squint ...
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 31 January 2021 21: 59
      -1
      Whom ?, Benya ?, Petya?
      At the end of 2019, Ukrainians listed
      to the country a record amount of 12,2 billion dead presidents.
      (For a minute, Ukraine received from the Brezhnev trumpet
      and his son 3 billion at the best of times)
      They write that there are 5 million of them. Well, consider that there are 10 of them.
      This is skoko, skoko, each earned, unbuckled for himself, the rest
      transferred to the kids for milk?
      Are they squinting? Aha, more than Benya and Petya!
      This is the "kind of candle" the Chinese will have. Well, or they will have it.
      Very accurate forecast!
      Who does not believe, read the Riga Treaty of 1921!
  24. Ros 56
    Ros 56 31 January 2021 20: 30
    +1
    Well, finally, it dawned on them, it’s not for nothing that they say that when Ho Hol was born, the Jew began to cry.
  25. Ruslan Sledkov
    Ruslan Sledkov 31 January 2021 20: 37
    +2
    The Chinese are called Asian Jews by their neighbors. And here they are, like these same Jews, they decided to have a freebie in Ukraine. And they got them. No wonder they say: when a Ukrainian was born, a Jew began to cry
  26. Viktor Afanasev
    Viktor Afanasev 31 January 2021 20: 56
    +1
    In Ukraine, there is a planned DE-INDUSTRIALIZATION, all actions confirm this ... The people are silent. The rulers are engaged in personal enrichment, under the high patronage of the "West", where they will then go to live ... The whole scheme ...
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 31 January 2021 22: 17
      +2
      Among Ukrainians, the word INDUSTRIALIZATION-
      the last dirty word!
      The industrialization of Ukraine has ALWAYS been dealt with
      "newcomers" - Yuzov, Elvorti, VKPb, etc.
      There has always been another "trend" - its own pig
      (maybach, yacht, amber forest, well, TV channel,
      chocolate factory, well, natural hog, after all)
      and everyone strokes him, strokes him - what an industrialization!
      Well, and what will the Chinese take my hog? Not!
      Well, let them go through the forest!
      Then everything goes into the cache. There is an account, but there is a minus on it.
      (If minus is weak, I ask a friend to give me
      I billed the steeper, and even filed a lawsuit against me)
      What do you want, crown! It happens in business, what are you
      fell from the moon? What, debts? Why did you give?
      Or is there corruption there? Here, and think about who gave,
      to whom he gave. And I have no time, I need to stroke the hog.
  27. zwlad
    zwlad 31 January 2021 21: 07
    0
    Interestingly, will the Chinese try to sue or understand that they will lose?
    1. FrankyStein
      FrankyStein 31 January 2021 21: 16
      0
      Do you think she doesn't go to Russia? In my city, five or six factories have already been sawn. From 2000 to today. And they continue to cut.
      Despite the fact that they survived the 90s.
    2. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 1 February 2021 00: 15
      0
      The question was solved by the Chinese:
      Submit to international arbitration.

      The issue resolved by Kiev:
      The plant will not be handed over to the Chinese.

      Claims of 3.5 lard remain.
      Most likely, the Chinese have messed up somewhere with some kind of transaction registration procedure and they will be denied shares.

      But the money was paid in fact for nothing. Therefore, the one to whom they paid them will have to return them.
      But there may be nuances)
      Motor Sich is somewhere around bankruptcy,
      the money could have been spent on operating expenses and it might just not be there.

      Likely outcome:
      1. It is not possible to receive shares (factory).
      2. There is a debt of a bankrupt plant with state burdens.
      The amount owed to the Chinese is 3.5 yards, although the numbers are not important.
      1. Avior
        Avior 1 February 2021 12: 00
        +1
        There is no debt to the Chinese of 3,5 billion, and there cannot be, they paid ten times less, 350 million.
  28. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 07
    +2
    Ukraine does not know who they contacted. In Ukraine, they said that, it is better with the Russians that they are ruined, who are with the Ukrainian people.
  29. Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 31 January 2021 21: 10
    0
    Gut, Voldemar, gut ...
  30. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 31 January 2021 21: 52
    0
    really, thrown ... !!! ???
  31. Puppeteer 111
    Puppeteer 111 31 January 2021 22: 46
    +1
    There must be a law everywhere. To gain significant influence in a joint-stock company, you must first obtain the approval of the commission. The question is why the Chinese, knowing such an essential condition, made a payment for the shares that could not be transferred to the account of the purchaser? Connoisseurs. Maybe there was no actual payment?))
    1. Avior
      Avior 31 January 2021 23: 30
      +1
      Payment was confirmed by the owner of the shares
      1. Puppeteer 111
        Puppeteer 111 3 February 2021 22: 18
        0
        Avior, everything is complicated there. Payment cannot be confirmed by the owner's words. Moreover, Boguslaev's everything is blurred in offshore companies. The same trading house Elena and business house Elena are actually the same thing) and we can only guess about the rest of the beneficiaries. The commission does not publish the list of persons who sold ())
        1. Avior
          Avior 4 February 2021 02: 48
          +1
          and how can you confirm? sacks of dollars in front of live TV cameras? so and this could be staging
          1. Puppeteer 111
            Puppeteer 111 4 February 2021 07: 32
            0
            Everything is just a transaction on accounts. Moreover, payment in such amounts will not be carried out in cash.
            1. Avior
              Avior 4 February 2021 08: 02
              +1
              With what joy will a private owner prove something to you by providing his banking information?
              And transactions are what? Will the number tell you either the time or the amount? And how can you check it later?
              1. Puppeteer 111
                Puppeteer 111 8 February 2021 18: 20
                0
                Then we go back to the beginning. Was there any payment?)) Moreover, Boguslav made claims there in the household court Zap. Region on recognizing the meeting of shareholders as invalid and providing for the prohibition on holding
  32. Black lotos
    Black lotos 1 February 2021 00: 22
    +1
    by the way, in the case with the State Food and Grain Corporation of Ukraine JSC (GPZKU), the Chinese win in the international court.
    But everything is simpler there and there are no violations of Ukrainian legislation. Most likely this unprofitable company will be sold / privatized.
    On January 21, they had to pay the first tranche. In total, two tranches will be transferred to the Chinese this year. And they have exactly only to pay this debt.
    But with Motor Sich there is a completely different dispute. And there all the parties do not inspire confidence so much ..
  33. RoTTor
    RoTTor 1 February 2021 00: 26
    0
    How to FOREVER scare off any potential investors even from the thought of dealing with Ukraine?
    Unique Ukrainian methods:
    https://www.aex.ru/news/2021/1/29/222686/

    https://life.ukrainianwall.com/66860-stalo-izvestno-chto-sbu-predotvratila-reyderskiy-zahvat-motor-sichi?utm_source=iua
  34. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 1 February 2021 04: 32
    0
    The "copier" has stalled, it turns out that high technologies are needed in high production! Here I even agree with the Americans, you have to think with your own head, and not poke around the world.