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Kurile Islands. It is not that simple

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Kurile Islands. It is not that simple

Little Japan in a hostile world



As you know, the topic of "common islands" has been the leading one in Russian-Japanese relations for the past seventy years. And for obvious reasons, no gap is observed there. The negotiations are endless. But practically without any result. In Russia, this theme served as the basis for numerous jokes, parodies and even "haiku" on the South Kuril theme.

Discussing this burning topic, some authors very ironically note that the Kuril Islands, together with Sakhalin and Hokkaido, elegantly form the "V" sign, that is, "victory". As if hinting that the island of Hokkaido would look very good as part of the Russian Federation. This is a joke, then.

But seriously, it must be stated that at the end of the 100th century, the development of the former Japanese Empire quite logically reached a complete dead end. In fact, it is no coincidence that XNUMX years before the Japanese were very, very active trying to develop territories on the continent. With varying degrees of success.

What else could they do?

Japan is a small country, densely populated and very poor in resources.

And their outstripping expansion to the continent could well have been foreseen. They did not have any other options. And the Japanese garrisons, scattered from Manchuria to Taiwan, as well as across the vast expanses of the Pacific Ocean, are an almost inevitable consequence of the creation of an industrial power.

World War II and defeat by the United States and its allies. A post-war economic miracle that finally died out in the late 80s. And three decades of stagnation against the backdrop of economic recovery first in South Korea, and then in Greater China ...

Does Japanese society and Japanese economy have any prospects in general?

We somehow barely noticed the collapse of the Japanese electronic giants in the XNUMXs. Then Fukushima happened. And the energy crisis.

We must also take into account the following unpleasant circumstance for the Japanese: an extremely hostile foreign policy environment.

For China, Japan is an enemy, for Taiwan too, no difference. Koreans hate Japan with all their hearts. To say that the Japanese are adored in Southeast Asia is to twist. Enemies are everywhere. And on the plus side - American military bases and territorial disputes with Russia over the islands. The picture, frankly, is not joyful.

This is when viewed from Tokyo.

The rise of the People's Republic of China, of course, poses great risks to Taiwan. But for the Chinese there are people there. And the Japanese are completely alien to them. That is, the Chinese expansion, oddly enough, creates the main threat just for the Yamato country. It's nobody's fault. It happened.

Since ancient times, the Chinese have the most serious historical accounts to Tokyo. It is clear that earlier Beijing simply did not have a chance to present them. Now such a chance has appeared.

The former strengths of the Japanese economy (mass industrial production and active exports around the planet) have already ceased to be so. In other words, the strategic situation for the Japanese state has been constantly deteriorating over the past 30 years.

And the entry into the ocean of newly built Chinese aircraft carriers is, first of all, a threat not even to the States overseas, but to Japan, located very nearby. For some reason, she is constantly forgotten by all observers considering the rise of Chinese fleet... But the Chinese just remember about her. And they hold it very tightly in the head.

It just so happened that after the Second World War it was around Germany that the European Union was eventually formed. Absolutely nothing formed around Japan.

And the loneliness and isolation of the island nation at the time of the Fukushima disaster is especially clear.

There is hardly anyone to buy electricity. It's good for the Germans, who can play green energy just in the center of Europe. Purchase electricity from neighbors. And to receive pipeline gas from Russia. But the Japanese are not so fun and not so great. On their resource-poor islands that shake regularly. And where communications to them are more and more intercepted by the growing Chinese fleet.

Here we must also mention the regular (and increasingly successful) tests of the North Korean missile weapons.

You noticed, where Are these missiles flying?

Towards Japan. Exactly there.

And if it is still impossible to finish shooting up to the "big Satan" (but they are working on it), then the densely populated regions of Japan are right at a glance. And with the missile defense system they (or rather, their American partners) have certain problems. In the sense that there is a system (based on the most modern Western technologies). But with the interception of Korean missiles (based on extremely outdated Soviet ones), there were minor problems.

Again. At one time (in the 80s), it was customary to admire Japanese economic achievements. At the same time, pointing out that Japan, practically devoid of resources, is forced to import all types of raw materials from abroad, sending high-tech products in return.

All this было So. But it doesn't work that way anymore.

Korean and Chinese concerns have replaced the Japanese in the field of high technology. And more and more ships under the red Chinese flag with five stars are coming out of the flow of resources to Japan, which seems to hint ... And it is in this direction that the Kim family experiments in the field of rocket technology are directed.

The Japanese are the historical enemy of the Koreans. What do you want?

That is, the "problem of the northern territories" in such a scenario seems rather far-fetched. The "high-tech Japanese" at the beginning of the XNUMXst century already have enough problems. Moreover, the problems are growing.

The paradox lies precisely in the fact that at the end of the 80s, Russia was the only large neighbor that did not have serious claims and some kind of historical negative towards the Japanese state. This is, of course, when compared with all other neighbors.

Diplomacy in the Russian direction


Japan's further policy in the Russian direction over the past 30 years is the most active attempts to transfer goods into a compost heap. That is, to spoil the initially good mood of the neighbor as much as possible.

How could those "islands" recoup all this disgrace? Absolutely incomprehensible.

And, in general, there is a certain paradox here. The Japanese argue that after the return of the islands, everything will be just fine in Russian-Japanese relations. At the same time, the quite obvious fact of a sharp deterioration in the attitude of Russians towards Japan over the past 30 years (just because of their intolerable desire to return these islands) for some reason is completely ignored by them.

Don't you find that this is somehow strange and paradoxical?

In the early 90s, in principle, there was no talk of any anti-Japanese sentiments in Russia. The Land of the Rising Sun was treated more than positively.

The result of 30 years of persistent and assertive Japanese policy towards Russia to return the islands is the emergence (from scratch) of persistent anti-Japanese sentiment.

Who, excuse me, except professional historians knew about the Nanking Massacre in Russia in 1991? Who was interested in this? For whom was it relevant?

Yes, practically to anyone and for anyone. The attitude towards Japan was positive.

But the Japanese worked tirelessly. As a result, political references to this country on the Russian Internet immediately lead to negative responses. That is, the Japanese tried to convince the Russians to return the islands, but as a result, no one is going to return anything. And, moreover, everyone understood that Japan is bad. So it goes. It's nobody's fault.

As a result of their vigorous activity in the Russian direction, the only thing that the Japanese have really achieved is a sharp deterioration in their attitude towards their country.

And here you can fantasize further. If they don't give a damn about what people think of them in Russia, then what kind of "improvement of relations" can we talk about? What is it all for then?

The relationship was bad. They got worse. But did Japan get the islands back? Why do we need this?

Here, oddly enough, I remember Dale Carnegie with his advice on making friends and influencing people. To achieve something, one should not impose it, but understand the interests of the counterparty. Something like this. So, the Japanese just acted strictly across Carnegie. And they just tried to push their interest over and over again.

By the way, I cannot unequivocally condemn Khrushchev for those very negotiations. He kind of wanted to play harder and get neutral Japan as a result. It's hard to say how realistic this idea was, but the attempt is not torture. For some reason, of all the complex combination that was offered to them, the Japanese diplomats remembered only that they want to return the islands. Apparently, too much sake was drunk during the negotiations. Or not sake?

Basically, as part of a big deal, then in 1956 it could all be interesting. But it didn't work out.

Why talk about it now?

Since then, the geopolitical situation has changed beyond recognition. What happened is not there. Completely new realities have emerged. The current situation in the Far East has nothing to do with the 50s of the last century. Everything changed.

Russia has lost the initiative in negotiations


So, you see, what is the trouble: the loss of diplomatic initiative on the part of Russia. The Japanese are actively imposing a discussion on the islands on us. And we begin to discuss only and precisely the islands. Island exclusive.

As a matter of fact, why?

There are two sides to the negotiations: Russian and Japanese. And everyone has equal rights in these negotiations.

Why we must strictly follow the Japanese script?

For some reason, the statement is taken for granted that after

"Return of the 4 islands will our relationship be wonderful?"

And then a discussion is already underway whether this "wonderful relationship" of the four islands is worth it or not.

As a matter of fact, it is absolutely unclear where it follows that we will get just such a relationship. No, I would like to, of course.
But where does this come from?

The last one and a half hundred years of Russian-Japanese relations have not given much grounds for optimism.

There were conflicts. There were wars. There were also invasions and occupation of Russian territories by the Japanese. But "good relations" were somehow not observed. And then suddenly - please.

This is somehow strange.

Has the idea of ​​returning the islands become a Japanese national idea?

Well, firstly, this is the problem of the Japanese. And secondly, you have to pay for everything in this world. That is, in general, it is not clear, but what, in fact, are the Japanese proposals?

Just to give something tangible in exchange for meaningless words?

Paris is definitely worth the mass. And Japan's neutrality cost four islands. It is very difficult for me to criticize Khrushchev here. In principle, given the length of the USSR's borders, as well as the complexity and cost of their defense, the decision is not the most stupid. But it didn't work out. Today, talking about Japan's "neutrality" is completely meaningless.

So what do they have to offer? Big and serious? Politically?

Is Japan interested in principle in good relations with Russia?

Where does this follow, strictly speaking?

Rather, the impression is that the Japanese are trying to take revenge for the Second World War in the "safe" Russian direction.

Let's do it again. The current geopolitical position of Japan is rather complicated and continues to deteriorate continuously. That is, it was much better in the eighties than in the nineties. And in the 90s it was better than in the XNUMXs. The economy has been stagnating for thirty years. China is building a fleet. North Korea - missiles. This is reality.

The only neighboring country that did not harbor any historical complexes and did not crave revenge in the postwar years is Russia.

So, Japanese diplomacy has worked tirelessly all these years, in fact, to worsen these relations. Which, in fact, did not upset anyone in Japan. And not only did it not upset, but nobody in Japan even bothered about it. And why?

In other words, it was considered superfluous even to track the reaction of Russian society to those very attempts to "return the islands". And what kind of "good relationship" after that can we talk about?

Yes, I agree, Japan wants to return the islands literally at any cost. But what good can it do for us?

It is naive enough to believe that after the hypothetical transfer of the islands, in general, something will change in Japanese policy towards Russia. And, in fact, why should it change? Why would it suddenly?

That is, when analyzing the situation and its variants, it is very important not to "stick with the horn" in a single decision on the principle of "yes or no", but to analyze the situation as a whole and all its possible forks. And we must understand that the signing of some kind of paper (peace treaty) in itself is not capable of drastically changing Japanese foreign policy towards the Russian Federation. Simply because it took shape a long time ago. The inertia is too great.

As we can see, without any war and serious preconditions, Europe imposed economic sanctions against Russia and seriously lowered the level of relations. What will prevent the Japanese from doing this (at the suggestion of their American partners)? After the signing of the "peace treaty"?

As if, they say, they wanted to make friends with us at home. The food has already been prepared. And then suddenly something bad happens. (Well, for example, an attack by an unknown submarine with a crookedly drawn Russian eagle on the wheelhouse on a peaceful Japanese ship). And here a thousand-year-old tale about Russian-Japanese friendship and the end? And who believed in her - that fellow?

That is, the most offensive thing is that the endless discussion of the issue of "returning the islands" is the constant poking of the nose into the painted hearth in the hut of Pope Carlo. Behind him is like a wall. And he himself is not there. After all, this is a virtual hearth.

How virtual is the discussion about our islands.
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  1. Tiksi-3
    Tiksi-3 29 January 2021 12: 07
    -19%
    An article from the series "from empty to empty" ......
    1. Sofa batyr
      Sofa batyr 29 January 2021 12: 16
      +21
      Quote: Tiksi-3
      An article from the series "from empty to empty" ......


      yes Personally, I, Japov, do not intend to regret everything that is listed. No.
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 30 January 2021 09: 35
        +3
        The islanders have messed up their affairs. It's time to answer for dirty tricks and crimes.
        1. Snusmumrik
          Snusmumrik 30 January 2021 12: 06
          -30%
          Each will come out according to his deeds. And Japan and Russia. But that's not the point. Japan is one of the few countries that could become an ally for Russia. And therefore, the solution of the Kuril problem is in the interests of Russia.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 30 January 2021 13: 03
            +16
            Quote: Snusmumrik
            Each will come out according to his deeds. And Japan and Russia. But that's not the point. Japan is one of the few countries that could become an ally for Russia. And therefore, the solution of the Kuril problem is in the interests of Russia.

            Who told you that ??? Japanese? They are the same aggressors as the Americans.
            1. Snusmumrik
              Snusmumrik 30 January 2021 18: 35
              -9
              Any country in a certain period of history was an aggressor. Except New Zealand, probably))) But this is normal and not a shame. But even the aggressors need allies. The United States has allies. And we have? Belarus? So, we must look to the future.
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 30 January 2021 21: 33
                +7
                It's funny! laughing Firstly, because the name itself is ridiculous: "... It's not that simple." It really looks like the sadly popular: "It's not so simple." Secondly, it seems that the topic of the Kuriles is stuck in someone's head tightly and periodically crawls out on VO with or without a refrain ...

                But seriously, the article is quite interesting, modern and timely about the current state of affairs on the issue. Thanks to the author! smile
              2. Nemchinov Vl
                Nemchinov Vl 31 January 2021 03: 14
                +3
                Quote: Snusmumrik
                The United States has allies. And we have?
                do you think complacency and devotion this ally must buy? !!!
                Ну I would scout with an ally - "whose favor / trustworthiness must be appeased", did not go...!!! yes it will not be difficult to lose confidence with this, during a reconnaissance mission (!). recourse
                1. Snusmumrik
                  Snusmumrik 31 January 2021 15: 13
                  0
                  Where in my post did I offer to BUY allied relations with Japan? Read carefully.
              3. ZEMCH
                ZEMCH 31 January 2021 12: 34
                +2
                Quote: Snusmumrik
                The United States has allies.

                Not allies, but vassals!)))
                The ally is not told how to live and with whom to trade!)))
                1. Snusmumrik
                  Snusmumrik 31 January 2021 15: 27
                  -2
                  The United States has been doing this lately and not out of great intelligence. 30-40 years ago, many people collaborated with this country for ideological reasons. Now this resource is wasted.
                  But even if we talk about vassals (by the way, it’s not a shame to have them either, but quite aristocratic) - there are not many of them in Russia either. So it turns out that we have been alone against the whole world for 20 years.
                  I believe that if we manage to bring the Russian-Japanese relations to the level of the Russian-Chinese ones, it will be good for both. But this is not possible without solving the Kuril problem. Solutions! not surrender or transfer.
          2. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 2 February 2021 12: 58
            +1
            And therefore, the solution of the Kuril problem is in Russia's interests.
            Yes you are right. Russia needs to build up its naval and air force grouping in this threatening direction. Demonstrate its capabilities in exercises. And the problem of the Kuril Islands will stop worrying Japan, it will start worrying about the problem of survival.
    2. Machito
      Machito 29 January 2021 12: 31
      +20
      Quote: Tiksi-3
      An article from the series "from empty to empty" ......

      Well, why not? The Japanese demand to give them 4 of our islands, they are constantly building up their fleet. Their fleet is stronger than ours in the Pacific. They like to attack suddenly. They don't want to be friends with us. It's time to put Japan's counter-territorial claims to the island of Hokkaido.
      1. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 29 January 2021 12: 34
        +5
        Quote: Bearded
        It's time to put Japan's counter-territorial claims to the island of Hokkaido.

        base?
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 29 January 2021 12: 55
          -11%
          Actually, the amended constitution leaves a loophole for alienating Russian territories in favor of other states in the event of demarcation, "straightening" of borders, settlement of territorial disputes, etc. I think this was done just for cases similar to Japan. In fact, Japan could once and for all solve the territorial issue if ... formed a union state with Russia.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 29 January 2021 17: 22
            +10
            Quote: Snail N9
            In fact, Japan could once and for all solve the territorial issue if ... formed a union state with Russia.
            This is the most talented politically illiterate and extremely liberal proposal! Namely.

            Why does Russia need imperial Japan in a union state? What for?!
            First, the stagnant Japanese economy?
            And secondly, with the Japanese imperial mentality of the Nazi-revanchist-militarist kind of political parties in Japan at the beginning of the twentieth century, which are still preserved and are in power in Japan?
            1. saigon
              saigon 29 January 2021 17: 47
              +19
              It is worth noting that for the Japanese, all non-Japanese are gazins, and it is not entirely correct to define this term as an outsider.
              It should be borne in mind that only the Japanese in their understanding of the people, all the rest are not.
              This is much cooler than hu - barbarians among the Chinese, the Chinese at least recognize barbarians as human beings. This is what it is worth starting from in an attempt to understand the Japanese.
              Despite all the stories about samurai loyalty and duty, it is the history of Japan that is full of betrayals and betrayals, that is, they are not negotiable.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 30 January 2021 08: 15
                +7
                Quote: saigon
                Despite all the tales of samurai loyalty and duty

                Absolutely agree. To count on the loyalty of the Japanese, you need to be his suzerain and hold him tightly to the causal place.
              2. andrew42
                andrew42 1 February 2021 14: 03
                +1
                When I was on business trips to the Chinese outback, I repeatedly came across at the household level with such a "Chinese popular opinion" (especially after repeated "kam bey" unleashing tongues): they say, the Japanese are the descendants of criminals who were imprisoned by some ancient emperor on ships, and sent to the ocean without the right to return. "In any case, the culture of the Middle Kingdom is much older and more fundamental than the culture of Nippon. If only because the origins of Japanese Shintoism have nowhere to come from, except from Buddhism, which came to the Middle Kingdom, and so and did not replace the religious views of the Taoists.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 29 January 2021 22: 58
              -2
              Quote: Tatiana
              Why does Russia need imperial Japan in a union state? What for?!

              But it was possible to live together as two states dominating in this region, and there would be no such upheavals. If there was a mind in my head.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 30 January 2021 08: 14
                +3
                Quote: tihonmarine
                But it was possible to live together as two states dominating in this region,

                With all due respect, can you give an example from world history when "two dominant states in the region" would live together?
                1. Aleksandr1971
                  Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 08: 41
                  +1
                  There are a lot of such examples.
                  While nothing lasts forever, friendly relations between dominant powers can be maintained for at least one generation, or even more.
                  For example, Rome from Vespasian to Trajan was friends with Parthia. France and England have been friends since 1815 to this day (albeit with some misunderstandings, such as the Fashoda incident). Russia and Germany were friends with some verbal misunderstandings from 1761 to 1914. These are just a few.
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding 30 January 2021 08: 54
                    +2
                    You somehow freely dispose of the facts.
                    Quote: Aleksandr1971
                    For example, Rome from Vespasian to Trajan was friends with Parthia.

                    The fact of the matter is that the geography of influence was delimited.
                    Quote: Aleksandr1971
                    France and England have been friends from 1815 to this day

                    Overkill. Where did Austria-Hungary, Prussia, the Third Reich fall from the region? Dominance was in question both in Europe and in the overseas colonies, interests were distributed.
                  2. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 30 January 2021 13: 13
                    +2
                    Quote: Aleksandr1971
                    Russia and Germany were friends with some verbal misunderstandings from 1761 to 1914. These are just a few.

                    Yes, and with Austria-Hungary, and with the same France after 1815, but also with Sweden. You can, if you want.
                  3. gattus
                    gattus 30 January 2021 17: 57
                    0
                    Friends - this word must be enclosed in quotation marks.
          2. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 29 January 2021 19: 24
            +1
            Quote: Snail N9
            In fact, Japan could once and for all solve the territorial issue if ... formed a union state with Russia.

            An extremely unexpected proposal, it is a pity that with the current socio-economic formation this is impossible to do.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 30 January 2021 13: 16
              +2
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              An extremely unexpected proposal, it is a pity that with the current socio-economic formation this is impossible to do.

              From the middle of the 19th century, a friendly existence with Japan was possible. And now it is definitely not.
          3. Snusmumrik
            Snusmumrik 30 January 2021 12: 12
            +1
            Original but impossible. Wrong mentality. As we have the "Russian world" and Holy Russia rushing from everywhere, so they have the Yamato Country. They are the center of the world and everyone must join them and submit to them.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 30 January 2021 13: 18
              +1
              Quote: Snusmumrik
              They are the center of the world and everyone must join them and submit to them.

              Yes, perhaps now and no one to join, and no one to join, while they themselves are in the occupation.
        2. Fast_mutant
          Fast_mutant 29 January 2021 15: 48
          +2
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          base?

          Yes, the same as the Japs - "I really want an island!" )))
        3. filalex79
          filalex79 30 January 2021 13: 31
          +1
          Hokkaido, at the time of Catherine II, was the territory of the Russian Empire. The island was joined by the Cossacks, and under whose command you can search the internet. There were no Japanese there, but the Ainu tribe lived, they are not Mongoloids, but of the Europioid type with their culture sharply different from the Japanese. After the Japanese killed almost all the Ainu, the rest were assimilated.
        4. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 30 January 2021 15: 16
          -1
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          Quote: Bearded
          It's time to put Japan's counter-territorial claims to the island of Hokkaido.

          base?

          In Yalta, it was agreed that the Japanese islands were to be occupied by the USA, USSR and China.
          Most of it relied on China, the southern islands of the United States, and Hokkaido, the USSR.
          It is a pity, Roosevelt died early (himself? Or kind people helped? Very much in time - to the section of pies).
        5. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 30 January 2021 21: 42
          0
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          Quote: Bearded
          It's time to put Japan's counter-territorial claims to the island of Hokkaido.

          base?

          In exchange for signing a peace treaty. Don't they need him? laughing
        6. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat 31 January 2021 14: 38
          0
          There is a reason) And no less substantiated than the cries of the Yapas about the Kuril Islands. According to the results of the Second World War, the Kuriles returned to the USSR and Fr. Hokkaido. It's just that Comrade Stalin took pity on the Yapas and left Hokkaido to them.
      2. Doccor18
        Doccor18 29 January 2021 19: 12
        +6
        Quote: Bearded
        It's time to put Japan's counter-territorial claims to the island of Hokkaido.

        Exactly.
        We need to express Japan's territorial claims. This is exactly what the United States is dreaming of - to escalate Russian-Japanese relations to the limit. And if it also flares up from the heat, then absolutely beauty ...
        If you think about it, Japan (this tech giant) will benefit from 4 small islands, but certainly not such that the very existence of the country is at stake for them. I was on these islands ... Not that. They are needed by the Americans, 99% by the Americans and 1% by the Japanese. For they will turn these islands into an "insurmountable Asian barrier."

        At the same time, the quite obvious fact of a sharp deterioration in the attitude of Russians towards Japan over the past 30 years (precisely because of their intolerable desire to return these islands) is for some reason ignored by them completely.

        Don't you find that this is somehow strange and paradoxical?

        No paradox.
        The alliance between Russia and Japan is an absolute collapse of American geopolitical politics ...
        1. Snusmumrik
          Snusmumrik 30 January 2021 12: 13
          -2
          No paradox.
          The alliance between Russia and Japan is an absolute collapse of American geopolitical politics ...

          At least because of this, we must strive for such an alliance.
      3. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 30 January 2021 12: 04
        +5
        They are asking for islands for a reason. They want to close the straits for us and the access to the Pacific Ocean for our fleet. The rest of the straits are frozen in winter and freeze over. It is very important
    3. credo
      credo 29 January 2021 12: 58
      +6
      Quote: Tiksi-3
      An article from the series "from empty to empty" ......

      Or - "Once upon a time there was a tsar, the tsar had a court, there was a stake in the yard, there was a bore on the stake. Start from the beginning."

      Why the Author decided that Japan is surrounded by continuous enemies and everything is bad for her, I do not know, and his arguments look unconvincing.
      Yes, Japan has difficulties, there are, but only who do not have them. So what of this.

      The passage about Khrushchev looks both weak and downright stupid, to say the least. The mere fact that part of the Kuril ridge, which became the territory of the USSR at the end of World War II, was mentioned in the corresponding statement, suggests that Khrushchev turned out to be a narrow-minded politician and statesman who left a headache to the future generations of the country.

      As for the "good" attitude of the citizens of the USSR and Russia to Japan, this is more the result of the propaganda carried out, and now, unfortunately, carried out, which, as a rule, boils down to the fact that Japanese cities were subjected to nuclear bombing by the United States in 1945, which led to a great tragedy. Japanese and they must be pitied.
      Maybe you should, but you just need to remind us of what the Japanese were doing in the occupied territory of the Far East of the RSFSR after 1917, in China, Korea and other countries of Southeast Asia in the 40s.

      So we are not enemies of Japan, but we are not friends either, and we do not want to change our legally conquered lands for Japanese trinkets. The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is recognized as an internal sea of ​​Russia, and therefore all the Kuril Islands must remain part of Russia, so as not to divide the Sea of ​​Okhotsk as the Black or Caspian Sea.
      1. d4rkmesa
        d4rkmesa 29 January 2021 15: 40
        +3
        Unfortunately, the exclusive economic zone is not an inland sea, and Japan already has access to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
      2. mat-vey
        mat-vey 30 January 2021 07: 22
        +2
        Quote: credo
        Why did the Author decide that Japan is surrounded by continuous enemies

        They did a good job for this in the past ... Nanjing for example ... yes, and we have something to remember ..
      3. EvilLion
        EvilLion 1 February 2021 09: 07
        -1
        We won the Germans in 45 on our own, and this question seems to be closed, or at least not pedaled, so there are no anti-German sentiments in Russian society, if the Germans want a repetition, then God help them, every grandfather who has not returned will be immediately remembered, or neither grandfathers, nor even fathers, but so far everything is quiet.

        With the Japanese, we did not have centuries-old major showdowns, well, the king blew near Tsushima, that's why he is the king, he destroyed the Empire.

        But the Chinese and Koreans remember the Japanese occupation well and are hostile at the level of society. They themselves did not win the war, the Americans liberated them and ours. The rest of the Asian youth are similar. On this occasion, I remember even the article was in the English-language wiki.
    4. Civil
      Civil 29 January 2021 13: 15
      -6
      Yes, yes, the rich supermodern Japan with skyscrapers cities really wants to unleash a nuclear war for 4 pieces of stone in the sea laughing laughing lol
    5. YOUR
      YOUR 29 January 2021 13: 22
      0
      After such words
      Paris is definitely worth the mass. And Japan's neutrality cost four islands.
      from empty to empty?
    6. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 29 January 2021 17: 19
      0
      But the article reflects the state of Russian-Japanese relations. This is when delegations of diplomats pour from empty to empty.
      And as long as this is the case, there will be corresponding articles.

      However, I hope that the ban on the alienation of Russian territories will put an end to such negotiations.

      And the transfer of the islands, at least part, or at least all, will not improve relations with Russia. For such are the Japanese and their overseas masters.

      In a few decades, Japan will not be a great economic power, but a country from the same rank as the current Philippines, Myanmar or Malaysia. And Russia, I hope, in the second half of the 21st century will overcome its current degradation and again increase its share in the world economy.
      1. Olezhek
        29 January 2021 18: 50
        0
        But the article reflects the state of Russian-Japanese relations. This is when delegations of diplomats pour from empty to empty.


        The question is why?
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 08: 44
          0
          And you ask the diplomats.
          However, the transfusion has essentially ended. Since there are no more talks about the Kuril Islands and are not expected.
    7. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 30 January 2021 11: 10
      +2
      Quote: Tiksi-3
      An article from the series "from empty to empty" ......

      I also thought so, Japan turns out to be lagging behind and everything is bad for her, only the army is in 8th place and spending on it is 3 billion less than in the Russian Federation ... And we, as it were, are more striving for cars and household appliances of such a backward country as Japan than to their own
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 30 January 2021 13: 43
        +1
        Well, the writers, if they used to constantly predict the death of the United States, now they have finished writing to the collapse of Japan. Here is an excerpt from the author:
        the collapse of the Japanese electronics giants in the XNUMXs

        Which electronic giants collapsed, Panasonic and Sony?
        1. your1970
          your1970 5 February 2021 06: 30
          0
          So what kind of phones do they make?
          Huaiwei - I know, iPhone - I know, Japanese ... - I don't know ...
    8. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 30 January 2021 18: 09
      -1
      good hi drinks
      Quote: Tiksi-3
      An article from the series "from empty to empty" ......
    9. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 30 January 2021 18: 13
      -3
      good Muscovites, live poorly, few ... So make MOSKOVIA out of the islands ... let the Japanese envy ...
    10. venik
      venik 30 January 2021 20: 56
      -1
      Quote: Tiksi-3
      An article from the series "from empty to empty" ......

      =======
      Alas! This is a "comment" - from empty to empty "!
      And the article is just very interestingI am!!!
    11. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 31 January 2021 02: 59
      0
      Quote: Tiksi-3
      Series Article
      - "for sleep neither is nor sleep, ... and neither sleep nor is - sleep"... (from a lecture about "dreams and dreams" TV movie of the times of the USSR ... (!).
  2. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 29 January 2021 12: 13
    +4
    .. China is building a fleet. North Korea - missiles. Here it is ...
    In South Korea, too, many remember the Yap atrocities in World War II. So if the striped ones suddenly weaken the supervision of the region, for any reason, then the moment of truth will come.
  3. apro
    apro 29 January 2021 12: 14
    -5
    Looped.looped.author.what I wanted to say is not clear.several mutually exclusive passages .... that's all.
    The problem was solved long ago. In the year 45.
  4. paul3390
    paul3390 29 January 2021 12: 14
    +7
    Actually - and on feijoa we generally agree on something with Japan? Do we really need something from her? And we will live without them. But for them from us - the resources would certainly be useful. Well, let them jump up and down, how to butter up Russia. By and large, we don't give a damn about all their Wishlist.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 29 January 2021 17: 34
      +2
      We need money from Japan and not only from Japan. And Japan has a lot of money, unlike most other East Asian countries.

      But the transfer of the islands to them will most likely neither increase trade nor increase Japanese investment in Russia. For if Japanese businessmen considered it useful for themselves, they would begin to trade with Russia and invest in Russia without any islands.

      Therefore, any attempts by the Japanese to negotiate with Russia on sovereignty over the Kuriles should be ignored.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 30 January 2021 07: 26
        -1
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        We need money from Japan and not only from Japan.

        Why? What to steal? So they are not fools ...
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 08: 35
          +1
          Can you read?
          The answer to your question is in the second paragraph of my post. Money from Japan and other countries can be obtained through trade or investment.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 30 January 2021 08: 42
            0
            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            Can you read?

            You, as always, the very charm ...
            Quote: mat-vey
            trade with Russia

            And what don't they trade?
            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            To invest in Russia.

            And here they are not fools at all ... or the swindlers are over.
  5. clerk
    clerk 29 January 2021 12: 14
    +13
    An extremely balanced article. Respect to the author.
    1. Blacksmith 55
      Blacksmith 55 29 January 2021 14: 09
      +4
      The article describes a true situation.
      The only inconsistency is where Kim "shoots" the missiles. Where should he shoot them?
      Look at the map, you can't go to the south, there is the South Caucasus, it can go to war, you can't go in the direction of China or Russia either, because missiles tend to fall on their own, or when the fuel runs out. Remains only to the east, towards the Sea of ​​Japan.
      1. Olezhek
        29 January 2021 18: 50
        0
        Where should he shoot them?
        Look at the map, you can't go to the south, there is the South Caucasus, it can go to war, you can't go towards China or towards Russia either, because missiles tend to fall on their own, or when the fuel runs out. Remains only to the east, towards the Sea of ​​Japan


        The samurai breathed a sigh of relief. crying
  6. kristofer
    kristofer 29 January 2021 12: 15
    +18
    I personally liked the article
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 29 January 2021 13: 28
      +4
      Everything is correct, the author says, whoever remembers the past will have an eye out! And whoever forgets, both!
  7. Stepan S
    Stepan S 29 January 2021 12: 15
    +1
    How virtual is the discussion about our islands.

    The article could be shortened to this phrase.
  8. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 29 January 2021 12: 20
    +2
    I also did not understand the author ... the Japanese want our islands ... of course, it is not harmful to want ... the Finns, for example, want Karelia, the Germans Kaliningrad ... the Ukrainians of the Crimea ... the United States wants to put a paw on our Siberia and the NSR ... those who want something to othote from Russia at an opportunity is full of it ... for everyone who WISHES our territory is not enough. what
    1. DrEng527
      DrEng527 29 January 2021 12: 52
      +9
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      for everyone who WISHES our territory is not enough

      we ourselves are not enough - part of our land is occupied by neighbors ... request
  9. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 29 January 2021 12: 23
    +2
    That is, the Japanese tried to convince the Russians to return the islands, but as a result, no one is going to return anything. And, moreover, everyone understood that Japan is bad.

    For that fought for it and ran. In the middle of the 19th century, Russia and Japan had good-neighborly relations, but after the Meiji revolution everything changed, Japan began to pursue a malicious policy against Russia, which ended in the Russo-Japanese War and the loss of the Russian floor of Sakhalin. The fault here is not Russia, that's why Japan has to start dancing in order to get Russia into good neighbors.
  10. Jcvai
    Jcvai 29 January 2021 12: 23
    +1
    It's simple: after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese suffered a psychological shift, a crisis of imperial power and a deflection under the Yusovites. Accordingly, all further actions are just an attempt to reorganize under the new overseas master. The lord is against the USSR - that means they too, against Russia - we follow.
    You need to understand that after the affect of 1945, the country lost its identity and independence, rebuilding itself for the winner. As soon as the states begin to demonstrate universal love, the descendants of proud samurai will immediately stand in line to make up and kiss.
  11. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 29 January 2021 12: 27
    -4
    And we must understand that the signing of some kind of paper (peace treaty) in itself is not capable of drastically changing Japanese foreign policy towards the Russian Federation.
    .. "Columbus, America discovered. He was a great sailor." (C) Yes. author You explain all this to Japan, what you wrote. Maybe you will be understood.
  12. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 29 January 2021 12: 30
    +3
    What's the point of raising this hackneyed theme about the islands? We will never give them up, and the Japanese have long understood, and the theme of the islands periodically comes up in Japan during their elections, the best years of Japan's prosperity have already passed irrevocably, they have many enemies with a good memory, so one hope is for the Americans and their bases in this country, although the Japanese Navy is a serious force
    1. Olezhek
      29 January 2021 18: 48
      -2
      What's the point of raising this hackneyed theme about the islands?


      You did not understand something or fell victim to the Japanese "island" propaganda.
      We have to think further and deeper than the islands.
      What do we have with Japan in general?
      1. CommanderDIVA
        CommanderDIVA 29 January 2021 22: 20
        +2
        The author is a great advice to you, never enter into an argument with readers in the form of a conflicting collision, the eyes of the reader are more severe than the ears of the listener, Goethe said, perhaps not literally, this is for education for the future
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 08: 48
          +2
          On any forum there are readers who, by their nature, want to simply troll the authors, even if the author's article is relevant and well-written.
          It's just that some people are not calm without hurting or offending another person, especially if it is anonymous and there is no risk of getting in the face.
          1. CommanderDIVA
            CommanderDIVA 30 January 2021 09: 19
            +1
            There are also such readers, I agree with you, and the real author is so valuable that he must take into account all opinions, one must be able to distinguish trolling from constructive criticism and draw conclusions
  13. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 29 January 2021 12: 37
    0
    I do not think that the purpose of continuing negotiations on the islands with the Japanese is to conclude a peace treaty. Here our leaders are hoping for something more. For what?
    This mystery is great.
    Otherwise, I see no point in negotiations.
  14. Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 29 January 2021 12: 45
    -1
    "There are two sides to negotiations: Russian and Japanese. And each has equal rights in these negotiations."- Yes, there are no parties and the Japanese have no rights, but there is Article 67, Part 2.1. which exactly says: 2.1. The Russian Federation ensures the protection of its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed. -So what are we talking about ??? request
  15. DrEng527
    DrEng527 29 January 2021 12: 51
    -2
    The analysis is not bad, but there are no practical conclusions ... request
    At the same time, Japan and South Korea are the only real counterbalances to China, so we are natural allies if they do not want to become satellites. hi
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 08: 50
      0
      And China is a counterweight to Japan and the United States in East Asia.
      And who is more dangerous for Russia? An alliance between the United States and their jackals, or China?

      So you yourself make your own conclusions instead of the author of this article, if you do not like the article.
      1. DrEng527
        DrEng527 30 January 2021 13: 49
        0
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        And who is more dangerous for Russia? An alliance between the United States and their jackals, or China?

        Probably more China - it is on the rise and close request
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        So you yourself make your own conclusions instead of the author of this article, if you do not like the article.

        I did not ask you for advice hi
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 14: 18
          0
          So you yourself made the comment to the author that he has no conclusions. So I wondered what conclusions you would draw.

          As for China, in the future it may become a more dangerous threat to us. But let future generations work on such a threat. Maybe India will be more dangerous than China. Or Brazil (what if it also becomes a superpower?) And the task of our generation is to defend Russia now, and not from what may or may not be.
          1. DrEng527
            DrEng527 30 January 2021 15: 38
            -1
            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            Maybe India will be more dangerous than China.

            for us? than? mountains between us ...
            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            and not from what may or may not be.

            not thinking ahead is a dangerous strategy ... request for example - in the 50s the USSR created the heavy and military industry of China and armed it, incl. YAO .... how reasonable was that for the future?
            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            So you yourself made a comment to the author that he has no conclusions

            this is not my article ...
            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            So I wondered what conclusions you would draw.

            learn to express your thoughts in writing request
            above I wrote my output:
            Quote: DrEng527
            At the same time, Japan and South Korea are the only real counterbalances to China, so we are natural allies
            1. Aleksandr1971
              Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 18: 12
              +1
              Your conclusion is not clever.
              For the US strategic forces (B-52) are stationed in Japan, aimed at us. The Japanese are not our allies. They are not allies at all, but they are American satellite mats.
              1. DrEng527
                DrEng527 31 January 2021 14: 28
                -1
                Quote: Aleksandr1971
                Your conclusion is not clever.

                in your opinion, no more wink
                Quote: Aleksandr1971
                The Japanese are not our allies. They are not allies at all, but they are American satellite mats.

                they lost the war and were occupied by the USA request I have been to Japan and I can say that everything is not so simple, but I see no reason to convince you hi
                1. Aleksandr1971
                  Aleksandr1971 31 January 2021 17: 37
                  +1
                  Everyone has their own view.
                  And the fact that a country occupied by America, which does not have an independent foreign policy, can be an ally for Russia (against the will of its overseas masters) - such an opinion is recognized as stupid by everyone with his head on his shoulders.
                  1. DrEng527
                    DrEng527 31 January 2021 18: 18
                    0
                    Quote: Aleksandr1971
                    such an opinion is considered stupid by anyone with a head on their shoulders.

                    some have chaff in their heads, but consider themselves wise bully
                2. Aleksandr1971
                  Aleksandr1971 31 January 2021 17: 46
                  +1
                  As for India, yes. There are mountains between us.
                  And between us and the United States lies Europe and the Ocean. (The Bering Strait does not count).

                  Anything can happen in the future. But as the mafiosi used to say, don't touch the problem until the problem touches you. So far, neither India nor China is touching us. Therefore, bullying them and looking for allies against them is stupid. So they can definitely be made enemies.

                  And cretinism does not defend against those who are right now trying to push us or destroy us. These are the USA and their satellites, incl. Japan.

                  As for travel, I, as a rentier, allowed myself to spend up to 2/3 of the year abroad. On the very famous forum of independent travelers AWD.RU, I have a profile with a mark of the countries I have visited - by my almost 50 years, more than 190 countries. I have visited Japan several times. But visiting a country as a tourist and assessing the state of relations between the visited country and your homeland are very different phenomena.
                  1. DrEng527
                    DrEng527 31 January 2021 18: 25
                    -2
                    Quote: Aleksandr1971
                    ... So far, neither India nor China is touching us. Therefore, bullying them and looking for allies against them is stupid.

                    I noted earlier - chaff in my head, but talk about politics request An ally must be forced into an alliance by creating conditions ... hi
                    Quote: Aleksandr1971
                    And cretinism doesn't defend against those

                    it is difficult to think, not to repeat banality ... request
                    Quote: Aleksandr1971
                    As for travel,

                    I worked in Japan where you will never be admitted to JAERI hi
                    Quote: Aleksandr1971
                    On the very famous forum of independent travelers AWD.RU,

                    than only people from idleness do not toil ... bully
                    1. Aleksandr1971
                      Aleksandr1971 1 February 2021 04: 38
                      +1
                      1. A potential ally can be lured into an alliance if this potential ally is an independent subject of international politics.

                      And you are clearly rude. You see, I am also a lecturer, Candidate of Law, for a long time headed the Department of Constitutional and International Law, although my main specialization is administrative law. I taught other public law disciplines as additional ones. Of course, I have nothing to do with nuclear physics, and I do not strive for the appropriate places at all. And now I have working points and relatively a lot of free time.

                      Based on your place of work in Japan, you are a techie. Therefore, it is unlikely that you, unlike me, have the competencies and at least initial training for the analysis of political and legal matters, not to mention specialized education (on the topic of discussion of this article). At the same time, you, DrEng527 (Sergey), replace your inability to formulate thoughts with obvious insults. This does not inspire respect for you.
                      1. DrEng527
                        DrEng527 1 February 2021 13: 01
                        -3
                        Quote: Aleksandr1971
                        And you are clearly rude.

                        Quote: Aleksandr1971
                        Anyone with a head on their shoulders recognizes this opinion stupid.

                        see in the mirror ... I noticed a long time ago that lawyers tend to observe only others ...
                        Quote: Aleksandr1971
                        You see, I am also a teacher, Ph.D.,

                        against my background, you are an uneducated pseudo humanist ... wink
                        Quote: Aleksandr1971
                        Based on your place of work in Japan, you are a techie.

                        it is even reflected in the nickname, for a little literate ... wink
                        Quote: Aleksandr1971
                        have competencies and at least initial training for the analysis of political and legal matters

                        you are funny ... it is much more important to know the private opinions of not the latest people in Japan, for example, deputy Minister of Science ... bully
                        Quote: Aleksandr1971
                        replace with explicit insults.

                        and this is a lawyer ... bully will you quote the insult from me? Of you I have brought above ...
                        Quote: Aleksandr1971
                        This does not inspire respect for you.

                        yes, it doesn't matter ... request
                        Quote: Aleksandr1971
                        Candidate of Law, for a long time headed the Department of Constitutional and International Law,

                        the head of the department is a candidate ... a nightmare ... request
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 29 January 2021 12: 54
    +4
    The Kuril Islands issue should be removed from the agenda of our Foreign Ministry FOREVER... And that's enough about that.
    1. Olezhek
      29 January 2021 18: 47
      0
      The question of the Kuriles should be removed from the agenda of our Foreign Ministry FOREVER. And that's enough about that.


      A conversation about Russian-Japanese relations in general.
      And about what went wrong.
      1. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 08: 51
        +1
        This vulgar or gone is called the USA, because it is the USA that determines the foreign policy of Japan.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 1 February 2021 09: 00
      0
      Our Foreign Ministry has no right to deny the existence of a piece of paper signed by Khrushch.
  17. pytar
    pytar 29 January 2021 12: 54
    -1
    Here we should also mention the regular (and increasingly successful) tests of North Korean missile weapons. Have you noticed where these missiles are going?
    Towards Japan. Exactly there.

    Has the author ever looked at the map? laughing

    The geographical position of North Korea allows relatively safe missile testing only along two corridors! The one to the Yellow Sea, very narrow and with unregulated missile evasion, can do nasty things to neighbors. There remains a corridor in the direction of the Sea of ​​Japan, which rests in ... Japan! lol
    And the Japanese (or rather, their American partners) have certain problems with the missile defense system. In the sense that there is a system (based on the most modern Western technologies). But with the interception of Korean missiles (based on extremely obsolete Soviet missiles), minor problems arose.

    Author, are you sure? What is this hardening based on? bully
    1. Olezhek
      29 January 2021 19: 18
      0
      The geographical position of North Korea allows relatively safe missile testing only along two corridors


      The Japanese are very nervous about all this.
      "The theory of safe corridors" does not convince them of anything.
      1. pytar
        pytar 29 January 2021 20: 15
        +1
        The Japanese take it all very nervously. "The theory of safe corridors" does not convince them of anything.

        And not only the Japanese! Since the trajectory of the chukhche missiles is unpredictable, everyone around is tense!








        "Air defense systems in the Far East have been put on high alert due to the situation around the DPRK"Senator Viktor Ozerov, who previously headed the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security, told RIA Novosti.
        According to Ozerov, the Russian military is monitoring what is happening around the DPRK, and areas of possible missile launches on its territory are under increased scrutiny.
        The senator noted that the tasks of the air defense include ensuring the security of the territory of Russia in case of incorrectly laid down coordinates of North Korean missilesBecause "the probability of error here is quite high", etc.
  18. K-50
    K-50 29 January 2021 12: 55
    -2
    The funny thing is that even if the South Kuriles were Japanese, it would not change anything at all. There is nothing but rhenium and fish. request
    The South Kurils are not even needed by Japan, but by the Pin Dos Iks, as a lever of pressure on Russia, the construction of military bases and launching positions for missiles there. Well, as a reason to visit the Sea of ​​Okhotsk more often.
    That's it!
    There is no question of any great economic benefit. lol
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 29 January 2021 20: 41
      -1
      Quote: K-50
      The funny thing is that even if the South Kuriles were Japanese, it would not change anything at all. There is nothing but rhenium and fish.

      The saddest thing is that you belong to the Kurils - "there is far and little land." Straight, the movie is recalled: "Yes, take it, the state will not become impoverished ...." By the way, the thief, and he understood. wink In addition to economic (and very decent) reasons, there are purely military reasons. Have you read about the last trip of an American ship to the Black Sea? The Sea of ​​Okhotsk will become a place of constant threats and provocations of "partners". Tudy-syudy. There is also the exit of our fleet to the ocean.
      1. K-50
        K-50 30 January 2021 10: 19
        +1
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        The saddest thing is that you belong to the Kuriles - "there is far and little land"

        You are wrong, I am not so. hi fellow
        The Kuriles are Russia.
        I just pointed out that for Japan they do not pull on a "magic wand", but on a "thorn" for Russia, if she does not possess them, completely. hi
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 30 January 2021 13: 59
          0
          Quote: K-50
          I just pointed out that for Japan they do not pull on a "magic wand", but on a "thorn" for Russia, if she does not possess them, completely.

          Agree
    2. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 08: 54
      -1
      There is no benefit now. And tomorrow?
      You see that the sale by Russia of the once unprofitable Alaska turned into a de facto foreign policy and economic defeat.
      In addition, the exit to the Pacific Ocean from Vladivostok goes through the straits of the South Kuriles.
      The impression is that you are either a troll or a person who has not seen the DV card.
      1. K-50
        K-50 30 January 2021 10: 16
        -1
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        There is no benefit now. And tomorrow?
        You see that the sale by Russia of the once unprofitable Alaska turned into an actual

        Tell me where I pointed to the sale of the Kuriles?
        The fact that there is no benefit from economic = economic activity does not mean that there is no benefit from the military-political in connection with the possession of this region. hi
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 10: 44
          -1
          I didn’t say that your message suggests selling the Kuril Islands to Japan. Why do you think so?
          I was talking about Alaska. And about the fact that once upon a time there was no benefit from Alaska. There was no benefit, for example, from Taimyr. And now in Alaska a lot of useful things are mined by amers, just like us in Taimyr.
          The analogy with the Kuriles is obvious. The fact that we cannot benefit from the Kuril Islands is the result of our present deplorable state. But I hope that it will change for the better.
  19. prior
    prior 29 January 2021 13: 05
    +7
    The islands of the Kuril ridge for Russia are the Pacific Crimea, this is the Pacific Kaliningrad.
    The Kuril Islands will never be Japanese anymore.
  20. Nikza
    Nikza 29 January 2021 13: 06
    +5
    Good article. And it's not about the islands, but about the relationship. Correctly said, the Japs do not need profit, they need to "bend" Russia. I have come across this often. Someone is selling something I need. The price is high. You start bargaining. Deafly as in a tank, for any justification for reducing the price, people stand their ground. He simply translates trade into the plane "A slave came to bow to the king with the lowest request." Moreover, this person always wins in such a position. Either he "refused the slave", or he "bent the slave". Therefore, the position of the Russian Federation in relation to Japan is absolutely correct. First, a peace treaty, and then we can talk. But we don't promise anything. And now the slave Japan walks and whines "give the islands, give the islands." If you want profit, sit down at the negotiating table as equals. No, come on, goodbye ...
  21. Lysik001
    Lysik001 29 January 2021 13: 09
    -1
    We repeated the same ten times and what is the article about? We didn't know all this without you? They just wrote to write. Oh, thanks
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 29 January 2021 17: 39
      0
      You have just been explained in Russian, not Japanese, that the article is about Russian-Japanese relations in the field of politics. Or you can read but can't see the content
  22. Avior
    Avior 29 January 2021 13: 21
    -1
    I cannot unequivocally condemn Khrushchev for those very negotiations. He kind of wanted to play harder and get neutral Japan as a result. It's hard to say how realistic this idea was, but the attempt is not torture. For some reason, of all the complex combination that was offered to them, the Japanese diplomats remembered only that they want to return the islands.

    the author at least read the declaration of 1956, and did not ascribe to Khrushchev any multi-movement
    As a result of these negotiations between the delegations of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Japan, an agreement was reached on the following:

    Article 1
    The state of war between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Japan ceases from the day this Declaration enters into force, and peace and good neighborly relations are restored between them.

    Article 2
    Diplomatic and consular relations are being restored between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Japan ...
    Article 3
    The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Japan confirm that in their relations they will be guided by the principles of the Charter of the United Nations, in particular, by the following principles set forth in Article 2 of this Charter:

    a) resolve their international disputes by peaceful means in such a way as not to endanger international peace and security and justice;

    b) refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force, either against the territorial inviolability or political independence of any state, or in any other way incompatible with the goals of the United Nations.

    The USSR and Japan confirm that, in accordance with Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, each of the states has an inalienable right to individual or collective self-defense.

    The USSR and Japan mutually undertake not to interfere directly or indirectly in each other's internal affairs for any reason of an economic, political or ideological nature.

    Article 4
    The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics will support Japan's request for membership in the United Nations.
    .
    Article 6
    The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics renounces all reparation claims against Japan.

    The USSR and Japan mutually renounce all claims, respectively, from their state, its organizations and citizens to another state, its organizations and citizens, which arose as a result of the war since August 9, 1945.

    .....
    The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, meeting the wishes of Japan and taking into account the interests of the Japanese state, agrees to the transfer of the Habomai Islands and the Sikotan Island to Japan, however, that the actual transfer of these islands to Japan will be made after the conclusion of the Peace Treaty between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Japan.

    there is no question of any neutral status, on the contrary, it is emphasized that Japan can enter into military alliances - the very article 51.
  23. bar
    bar 29 January 2021 13: 23
    +3
    An unpleasant circumstance for the Japanese: an extremely hostile foreign policy environment.

    But did not Japan itself create this, first completely isolated from the outside world, and then engaging in aggression?

    And their outstripping expansion to the continent could well have been foreseen. They did not have any other options. And the Japanese garrisons, scattered from Manchuria to Taiwan, as well as across the vast expanses of the Pacific Ocean, are an almost inevitable consequence of the creation of an industrial power.

    Another "industrial power" in the center of Europe had exactly the same explanations. That one also lacked territories. It ended the same for both.

    where is the trouble: the loss of diplomatic initiative on the part of Russia. The Japanese are actively imposing a discussion on the islands on us.

    And what should be Russia's initiative in terms of transferring the islands? Give chtol? And they will "actively impose" this topic forever, this is a stupid unicellular, akin to insect instincts, the samurai mentality. If some prime minister suddenly ceases to impose this, he will lose face and make hara-kiri.

    The last one and a half hundred years of Russian-Japanese relations have not given much grounds for optimism.

    That's it. And all such articles on this topic are senseless crushing of water in a mortar.
  24. Bekasov Artem Andreevich
    Bekasov Artem Andreevich 29 January 2021 13: 42
    -1
    One gets the feeling that Russia is simply luring the Japanese, seeming weak and unprotected in this region. This is done in order to provoke Japan to attack with the aim of seizing the "northern territories" as the min program, and as the max program, the seizure of the richest Sakhalin by them. This is what we have been waiting for and have been preparing for a long time. To put an end to this issue according to the results - to get the very "V" from Hokkaido (Sakhalin-Hokkaido-Kuril Islands)! With its ice-free ports, rail links to all of Japan and a new naval base in Akkesi Bay. Then the bridge to Sakhalin, its namesake from Sakhalin to Hokkaido and the laying of the Russia-Japan-South Korea and DPRK energy ring with access to China will pay off many times over, like much more. We will wait and see what will come true, there is little left to wait. The rest of the participants are already finishing their preparations.
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 30 January 2021 13: 21
      -1
      I'm afraid the Japanese will not get off with one hokkaido in the conflict between Japan and Russia. This South Caucasus under pressure from the "West" may still remain on the sidelines. But for China, it will be quite logical to enter into an alliance with Russia to snatch a piece of the Japanese pie. Well, there, and the DPRK can catch up with the deriban. Even if not with missiles, they have a decent army. They can quite act as the main manpower in such a conflict. They will promise them after graduation, for example, Kyushu and Shikoku, and it will be quite a profitable enterprise for them. And the yapam will remain, over there, the Okinawan Islands, although knowing the amers, they will definitely grab them when they are naughty, and will sit quietly. For the sake of the Yaps, the Americans certainly will not substitute themselves for the Russian-Chinese nuclear weapons.
  25. Cowbra
    Cowbra 29 January 2021 14: 01
    +2
    Hmm, and the author is a fine fellow ... Somehow I did not think about that. that really, relations with Japan in the USSR were really - pretty good, and even a certain cult of Japaneseism developed. One audience of Arkady Strugatsky or Pelevin (also raised in the USSR) with the other Akunins. Again Murakami ...
    As for the mood in Japan, I have a slightly different opinion. Unfortunately. I read only in Russian and in English, but according to translated materials in Inosmi and on a number of Asia-Pacific portals, for example, Singaporean - there is a picture that
    a) The same Shinze Abe is rinsed with EVERYTHING - I have never seen any exceptions - including. Moreover. this is one of the main complaints - for the deterioration of relations with the Russian Federation. as a result of which the opportunity to return the islands has been virtually lost. They are aware of this.
    b) At the same time - this is exactly from the portals of the APR - a wild mixture of propaganda and myths in their heads. More than once found opuses from the category of that. that Stalin forced the Americans to drop nuclear weapons on Japan, or that the attack on the occupying army in China was unprovoked (almost no one knows about the anti-Comintern bloc, which they signed against the USSR!)
    But in general. as our "friends" say, who work in a flock on the portal - not everything is so simple
    1. Olezhek
      29 January 2021 18: 45
      +4
      The same Shinze Abe is rinsed by EVERYTHING - I have never seen any exceptions - including. Moreover. this is one of the main complaints - for the deterioration of relations with the Russian Federation. as a result of which the opportunity to return the islands has been virtually lost.


      And here everything is in a cycle: relations worsened precisely in the course of persistent attempts to "return" the islands ...
      not offering anything in return.
      And the deterioration of relations due to attempts to return the islands led to a decrease in the possibility of negotiations on the return of the islands.
      Megillah.
      In Abe's position, one cannot but try to "return" the islands "for beautiful eyes" ... which automatically leads to an increase in tension ...
      and so on and so forth...

      Not tired yet?
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 29 January 2021 18: 58
        0
        Well no. normal, just wondering, there is something to think about.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 January 2021 23: 03
        +1
        Quote: Olezhek
        Not tired yet?

        For me, they weren't so tired. Write further, sincerely Vlad.
  26. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 29 January 2021 14: 30
    +2
    It just so happened that after the Second World War it was around Germany that the European Union was eventually formed. Absolutely nothing formed around Japan.
    And who is to blame? recourse
    There is hardly anyone to buy electricity. But the Japanese are not so fun and not so great.
    Nonsense. Oil pipelines from Sakhalin could have existed for a long time. They themselves pick in the nose and look for the guilty. fool
    1. BAI
      BAI 29 January 2021 16: 27
      -2
      Oil pipelines from Sakhalin could have been

      Where will you go about seismic activity?
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 31 January 2021 15: 51
        +2
        Quote: BAI
        Oil pipelines from Sakhalin could have been

        Where will you go about seismic activity?

        Let me tell you a terrible secret. Oil and gas pipelines have been laid for 150 years in the Caucasus, Sakhalin and the mountains of Siberia, taking into account seismicity. request
  27. S. Smirnov
    S. Smirnov 29 January 2021 14: 36
    -5
    Kurile Islands. It is not that simple

    Everything is simple with us. The Japanese make it difficult.
  28. evgen1221
    evgen1221 29 January 2021 15: 10
    -3
    Well, about the negative in the Russian Federation on the transfer of the islands, this is and we need them as an outlet to the ocean, but in terms of the general negative to Japan, this author greatly exaggerated the propaganda swoop, rather the opposite. In Japan, the United States is very fond of it, excesses with bases happen, and that's why it happens to be a soldier. We offered them joint projects, seeing what and how we are doing, there are few people who want to do something with us, only the export of raw materials. Apparently they have not yet pressed and there is hope for the future in diamonds, but after the construction of the PRC fleet, apparently other songs will be sung.
  29. Andrew
    Andrew 29 January 2021 16: 19
    +2
    Thanks to the author. Interesting article.
  30. BAI
    BAI 29 January 2021 16: 26
    +2
    Here we should also mention the regular (and increasingly successful) tests of North Korean missile weapons.

    It should be mentioned here that "backward" North Korea has the 5th submarine fleet in the world, bypassing many developed Western countries. And the boats are not only armed with torpedoes.
    1. timokhin-aa
      timokhin-aa 31 January 2021 19: 10
      0
      has the 5th submarine fleet in the world, bypassing many developed western countries.


      And by what criterion did you assign the DPRK the fifth place?
  31. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 29 January 2021 16: 39
    -2
    Oleg Egorov missed an important fact, according to the decisions of the Big Three, the USSR (Russia) has every right to half of Hokkaido, you can not insist on half of Hokkaido, but the entire coast of Hokkaido that goes into the Sea of ​​Okhotsk should belong to Russia by right, like the fish stocks of this sea = inland lakes of the Russian Federation. The assassination of Roosevelt, the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were caused by the desire of the Americans not to give the promised to Stalin.
  32. sleeve
    sleeve 29 January 2021 16: 53
    0
    It's a matter of principle. Already in principle. The territory is not traded and that's it.
  33. Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 29 January 2021 17: 45
    -1
    Quote: vladimir1155
    Oleg Egorov missed an important fact, according to the decisions of the Big Three, the USSR (Russia) has every right to half of Hokkaido, you can not insist on half of Hokkaido, but the entire coast of Hokkaido that goes into the Sea of ​​Okhotsk should belong to Russia by right, like the fish stocks of this sea = inland lakes of the Russian Federation. The assassination of Roosevelt, the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were caused by the desire of the Americans not to give the promised to Stalin.

    The author of the article simply did not talk about it, because Russia missed this opportunity.
    In history, there were many opportunities for Russia and not only for her. But to talk about it means to fall into the sphere of alternative history.
    1. Olezhek
      29 January 2021 18: 38
      +1
      according to the decisions of the big three, the USSR (Russia) has full right to half of Hokkaido


      The author of the article simply did not talk about it, because Russia missed this opportunity.
      In history, there were many opportunities for Russia and not only for her


      In any case, in 1945, the USSR simply did not have a fleet in the Far East.
      And it was very difficult to make claims against someone.
      So it goes.
  34. fa2998
    fa2998 29 January 2021 18: 21
    +1
    Quote: Divan-batyr
    Personally, I, Japov, do not intend to regret everything that is listed.

    And you don't need to feel sorry for them. I somehow "ran into" a clip about free toilets in Japan on the U-tube - I was impressed the whole day (and my nerves are fine). I recommend, find, you will not regret it! For a century! It's sad. We have paid, even a hundredth part does not hold out. hi
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 29 January 2021 19: 02
      -1
      I somehow "ran into" on the YouTube clip about free toilets in Japan-

      Dear, there can be anything in the video, this is an advertisement. When I wandered around Tokyo at night in 2014, I had to use this free establishment. Quite frankly, reminded our provincial station toilet, only a little cleaner.
    2. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 05: 44
      -1
      Yes. We are behind, but not for a century.
      But this does not mean that we need to raise our paws up and distribute to all foreign creatures the land received by the blood of our ancestors.
      Let them take our land with even more blood - through the atomic destruction of their cities.
  35. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 29 January 2021 19: 00
    0
    For some reason, of all the complex combination that was offered to them, the Japanese diplomats remembered only that they want to return the islands.

    In the same way, the Sumerians see in the Minsk agreements only the transfer of the border into their hands. In general, when I was in Japia, there was a persistent feeling that I had returned to the USSR of the 1980 model - stagnation and a terrible bureaucracy. And the people are friendly, although few people know English.
  36. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 29 January 2021 19: 31
    +1

    Night Tokyo

    View of the city from the TV tower

    TV tower
    Excuse me that I could not have predicted that in 6 years there would be a discussion about toilets, but I didn’t take a picture.
  37. fif21
    fif21 29 January 2021 23: 44
    +2
    Withdrawn troops from Germany, so what? Japan is a US-occupied country and the surrendered islands will immediately receive US military bases. Four unsinkable aircraft carriers and the Russian Pacific Fleet are locked at sea and denied access to the Pacific Ocean! Do we need it? 200 mile economic zone rich in biological resources of the Russian Federation is also not needed? And the US is essentially restraining Japanese and German militarism by its occupation, and so far there will be no Russian-Japanese or Russian-German war bases there. hi
  38. The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 30 January 2021 03: 24
    -1
    Japan is a small country, densely populated and very poor in resources.


    Japan is not so densely populated. Hokkaido is generally sparsely populated.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 05: 45
      0
      Somewhere thick, but somewhere empty.
      I've been to Japan twice.
      Their cities are very good targets for thermonuclear strikes. I don’t feel sorry for them.
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 30 January 2021 13: 34
        -3
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        Somewhere thick, but somewhere empty.


        Yes. Like Russia, for example.

        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        Their cities are very good targets for thermonuclear strikes.


        Yes. As well as the Russian ones, for example.
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 14: 14
          +1
          Everything is relative. They have fewer cities, despite the fact that the population is almost equal to that of Russia. And their cities are mostly mountainous or hilly. This is good for explosions, when the shock wave will repeatedly reflect on the terrain and additionally destroy cities. In addition, their cities are actually moving from one millionaire to another millionaire. In fact, there are no borders between cities, except for administrative ones. For nuclear weapons, this is also very good. And the fact that Japan is completely in an earthquake-prone area is even better for the RYAN - nuclear explosions initiate earthquakes and eruptions.
          Our settlements are more difficult for the use of nuclear weapons in the above aspects.
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 30 January 2021 14: 18
            -3
            That is, you wanted to say "Japanese cities are even a better target for nuclear weapons than Russian ones"? Maybe you are right.

            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            They have fewer cities, despite the fact that the population is almost equal to that of Russia.


            They say that 80% of the population of Russia is 12 cities.
            1. Aleksandr1971
              Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 14: 42
              +1
              They say that chickens are milked.

              In Russia, 85% live in cities, and 15% in villages. So your statistics are wrong. There are much more cities in Russia than 12.

              In my Altai Territory, 55% are in cities, and in villages, respectively, 45% of the population of 2,4 million people. The administrative center of the Altai Territory - Barnaul, where I live, is not included in the top 2 largest cities in Russia, despite the fact that there are 650 thousand people in Barnaul.

              In addition, there is no certainty that the US will bomb Russia with nuclear weapons in defense of Japan if Russia only bombed Japan, not the United States. But that's another topic.
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 30 January 2021 14: 52
                -2
                Quote: Aleksandr1971
                In Russia, 85% live in cities, and 15% in villages. So your statistics are wrong. There are much more cities in Russia than 12.


                Your statement does not contradict mine in any way. Perhaps you did not understand what I have written.

                Quote: Aleksandr1971
                In addition, there is no confidence that the United States will bomb Russia with nuclear weapons in defense of Japan.


                There is also no certainty that Russia will bomb Japan.
    2. Olezhek
      30 January 2021 08: 24
      0
      Japan is not so densely populated. Hokkaido is generally sparsely populated


      Attention!
      the japanese guys are heat-loving
      What do you think of the Greater Tokyo area ??
      (Tokyo - Yokosuka)
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 30 January 2021 13: 36
        -1
        Quote: Olezhek
        What do you think of the Greater Tokyo area ??


        It seems to be the first in the world in terms of population density? But it doesn't matter when thinking about annexing new territories.
  39. suvak
    suvak 30 January 2021 05: 46
    +1
    Purely Japanese art.
    ͟Т͟а͟н͟к͟у͟: ͟
    I look across the Kunashirsky Strait.
    Oh, what longing I am
    With a running tear
    Thinking how to get the islands back
    Fog covered in the distance ...
    haiku
    Where it flies
    The cry of the pre-dawn cuckoo,
    What is there? - Islands that are distant for us ...

    I will not speak Russian, modern will be banned ...
  40. fa2998
    fa2998 30 January 2021 07: 33
    +1
    Quote: Eye of the Crying
    Japan is not so densely populated. Hokkaido is generally sparsely populated.

    Well, Siberia is not very populated here, while in Japan, the other 3 islands are equal in population to the vast Russia. hi
  41. Andobor
    Andobor 30 January 2021 08: 09
    +2
    It should be understood that Japan is an occupied country, an unsinkable American aircraft carrier, it makes no sense to talk about Japan's foreign policy. Therefore, no one is talking about the Chinese threat to Japan, but talking about the threat to the owners of the "aircraft carrier."
  42. CTABEP
    CTABEP 30 January 2021 08: 17
    0
    It was all like that. But it doesn't work that way anymore.


    Third economy in the world. Does not work. Yes Yes.
  43. 41st region
    41st region 30 January 2021 10: 14
    0
    The article seemed to me a little "crumpled", but in essence everything is correct.
    If we lower the level of mutual relations to specific individuals, then I observed how Japanese pensioners and students with shovels gritted their teeth, digging up the bones of their less fortunate compatriots on the Shumshu Island. And this attitude is massive. We are their enemies. Why should we treat them in a friendly way?
    The attitude of the Chinese towards the Japanese is also correct. Japan will pay for its "art" sooner or later. All the Chinese moves are recorded.
    Koreans, too, will remember the occupation and forced Japaneseization.
    Japan only hopes for the United States, which needs it as an "unsinkable aircraft carrier." But that's another story and how real these hopes are ...
  44. Moskovit
    Moskovit 30 January 2021 10: 35
    +1
    The pragmatism of the Chinese outweighs the Nanking massacre. A lot of factories from Japan are located in China. Will the Chinese go to war with some of the most important investors and partners? The author overestimates the contradictions between Japan and China.
    1. 41st region
      41st region 30 January 2021 11: 07
      +1
      And there is. As soon as China considers that the results of pragmatism in relations with Japan are negligible, the Japanese will remember their Japanese mother.
      1. Rusticolus
        Rusticolus 30 January 2021 13: 47
        0
        The Chinese can not even neglect pragmatism. It is enough just to change the pragmatism of trade for the pragmatism of the occupation.
        1. andrew42
          andrew42 1 February 2021 14: 24
          +1
          The occupation of the Japanese islands will do nothing to China, except for colossal costs. But the loss of the sales market will bring. Plus, too many tech goodies are being imported from Japan. The Chinese are great at counting money, and are not noticed in stupid greed. Control over Japan by entering into corporate governance is, yes, a tasty prize. War, occupation - any Chinese "emperor" will consider it an absurd dream.
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 1 February 2021 14: 17
      +1
      It’s strange that Hong Kong took the 25th place. "exporting to Hong Kong" is nonsense as it only makes sense to "export VIA Hong Kong". Place of financial transactions, registration of counterparties and transport and logistics hub - this is NOT a sales market.
  45. Dimide
    Dimide 30 January 2021 12: 08
    +1
    Not analytics, but solid philosophical reasoning and admissions
    Everyone would have such a stagnating economy
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 30 January 2021 14: 23
      0
      He who does not think makes no mistakes.
      Except for the mistake that he doesn't think.
      As for the stagnating economy, there is no need to go far into history. There were many countries that were once rich, but now they are sitting by the bed. And Japan too quickly fell from its miracle into stagnation. So the author is thinking about her future. Maybe he's wrong.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 1 February 2021 08: 55
      +2
      Doesn't it stagnate? How long have you bought Panasonic, or have you already forgotten both it and Toyota in favor of Chinese brands?
      1. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 1 February 2021 16: 23
        0
        in 1995 he bought a Sony cassette player when he was living in a hostel in graduate school.

        And then in Japan itself, I was a tourist and bought only fridge magnets - $ 10 apiece. Rarely where magnets are more expensive than in Japan.

        Now I drive a Russian-assembled Pajero.
        Nice car. I have changed every 3-4 years for a newer model since 2006. Perhaps this is stagnation.
  46. Ham
    Ham 30 January 2021 17: 22
    +1
    the Kuril ambitions of the Japs are incited from the United States ... in addition - the "Kuril theme" has turned into a kind of fetish - politicians are making a career out of this
  47. bk0010
    bk0010 31 January 2021 01: 08
    0
    Japan is a small country, densely populated and very poor in resources.
    The area of ​​Japan is 377.9 thousand km2, the area of ​​Germany is 357,5 thousand km2.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 1 February 2021 08: 53
      0
      The central regions of Japan are mountains.
  48. certero
    certero 31 January 2021 10: 42
    0
    Thanks to the author for the article, I must admit, I have never looked at Japan from that angle. But really, she doesn't have a single country near her that would treat her kindly.
    As for the islands, this topic, at least from our side, is completely closed. In my opinion, it was generally necessary to return to the times of the Soviet Union, when he declared that he had no territorial problems with Japan.
  49. certero
    certero 31 January 2021 10: 42
    0
    Quote: bk0010
    The area of ​​Japan is 377.9 thousand km2, the area of ​​Germany is 357,5 thousand

    only 80% of the territory of Japan is mountains absolutely unsuitable for mass development or residence
  50. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 31 January 2021 14: 34
    +2
    "And Japan's neutrality cost four islands. It is very difficult for me to criticize Khrushchev. In principle, given the length of the USSR's borders, as well as the complexity and cost of their defense, the decision is not the most stupid."
    And really, what is the foolishness of locking up the Pacific Fleet by making it nonoceanic? Yapi zhezh love us and promise "good relations" smile
    The author contradicts himself.
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