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Indian Air Force Commander: We started work on the 5th generation fighter with a slight delay

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Chief Marshal aviation India's Rakesh Bhadauria issued a statement following the conclusion of the Indian-French Air Force exercise Desert Knight 2021. According to him, 8 French Rafale fighters have already arrived in India, and three more are expected by the end of January.


The Indian Air Force Commander noted that against this background, the country is developing a fifth generation fighter. Earlier it was reported that such work is being carried out within the framework of the AMCA project.

Rakesh Bhadauria:

We started work on the fifth generation fighters with a slight delay. But we are ready to implement technologies in the course of developing the latest aircraft. We have developments that we will translate into reality.

The Indian Marshal noted that in the process of working on the fifth generation fighter "some principles of the sixth generation aircraft will also be introduced."

The Indian Air Force Commander did not elaborate on what principles are meant. He also did not name the completion date for the development.

Meanwhile, in India itself, he was criticized for his words about the "slight delay" in the development of the 5th generation fighter. It is noted that this delay should be called honestly - “critical”. The fact is that today the Indian Air Force would already receive a new generation of fighters, as is the case in the Russian Aerospace Forces. After all, initially the FGFA project was joint. But India decided to withdraw from it, announcing that the characteristics of the aircraft being developed did not suit it.

Now the US, China and the Russian Federation have fifth-generation fighters, and India's AMCA may not appear until 2032.
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  1. Magic archer
    Magic archer 24 January 2021 09: 54
    +16
    Taking into account the fact that Tejas has been developed for almost 40 years, it belongs to a maximum of the 4th generation, then it can be assumed that the fifth generation in India will not be until 2050 laughing
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 24 January 2021 09: 58
      +14
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Taking into account the fact that Tejas has been developed for almost 40 years, it belongs to a maximum of the 4th generation, then it can be assumed that the fifth generation in India will not be until 2050 laughing

      In the world by that time, the 8th generation will probably be ...

      I remembered ... From those times when "Pentium-4" was super cool and super expensive.

      Free classifieds newspaper ad:
      "Changing a computer with a Pentium-4 processor for the skin of an alien." Signed "Bill Gates".
      A week later, in the same newspaper, another ad:
      "Changing a computer with a Pentium-8 processor for a Bill Gates skin." Signed "Aliens".
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 24 January 2021 11: 36
        +1
        Following the logic of the article, the aliens will buy the skin of the Indian Marshal laughing
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 24 January 2021 10: 03
      +3
      It must be taken into account that Tejas had an Israeli avionics and an American turbojet engine .......
      1. Machito
        Machito 24 January 2021 11: 26
        +3
        Hindus gathered to build sixth generation aircraft laughing fool Why does he smoke this minister? Even Psaka does not carry such nonsense.
      2. avg
        avg 24 January 2021 12: 17
        0
        Quote: Zaurbek
        It must be taken into account that Tejas had an Israeli avionics and an American turbojet engine .......

        The minister's grandson LEGO collects the last generation at once, and here the Brahmans are scientists ...
  2. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 24 January 2021 09: 55
    +4
    Wow "slight" delay.
    In other countries, they are already talking about the 6th generation, but they only
    We started work on the 5th generation fighter
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 24 January 2021 12: 40
      +1
      They have been sawing it since the appearance of the MiG 1.44
  3. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 24 January 2021 09: 56
    +4
    Now in India there is a national hodgepodge of armaments, let's add our own aircraft. After 12 years. Best case scenario. From assorted imported components, like "Lego", assembled ...
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 24 January 2021 09: 59
      +3
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      Now in India, the armament team is a hodgepodge,

      What a mess in their heads ... request
      Hi hi
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 24 January 2021 10: 23
        +4
        Sergey, hi !
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Now in India, the armament team is a hodgepodge,

        What a mess in their heads ... request

        They learned how to make pills - no doubt about it. But about mechanical engineering ... Light, heavy, special ... Somehow "the legend is fresh, but hard to believe."

        In the late 90s, I had to communicate with them for cooperation in their specialty, in construction. To be honest, I got the impression that they are used to building from "g ... and sticks", elementary resistance materials are not available to them. The Taj Mahal is a distant past for them - like pyramids for today's Egyptians or the Colosseum for Italians. Maybe just me, personally, so "lucky"? By the way, cooperation did not work out then ...
        Father in those parts of the world wandered around on business trips, spoke very warmly about the Vietnamese - they are interested in everyone, they want to understand everything, they will not give them sleep even at night with questions. And about the Indian army he spoke only obscenities. Turns away for a minute - they have already gathered in a circle and are drinking some of their own tea with "nesting dolls" ...
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 24 January 2021 10: 53
          +5
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          In the late 90s, I had to communicate with them

          I spoke in the mid 70s
          One Indian underwent practice on our unit
          The USSR then built a metal plant in India.
          So this Hindu spoke on any topic other than workers, but most of all about women
          When asked why he does not speak about work, does not ask, he said that his father is the director of this plant and he will never be a worker.
          One of our guys invited him to visit and treated him to moonshine.
          There was no Hindu at work for three days and came more beautifully put in a coffin laughing
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 24 January 2021 10: 12
      +7
      It is interesting to compare democratic India and socialist China .. They started in the modern phase at about the same time - after the war. Huge southern countries with a colossal population. Outlets to the sea, there are no minerals. Plus India - has never been under sanctions and enjoyed the preferences of the British Commonwealth.

      And what different results over the past 70 years! Especially in industry and even more so - in the defense industry.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 24 January 2021 10: 29
        +4
        Paul, hi !
        Quote: paul3390
        And what different results over the past 70 years! Especially in industry and even more so - in the defense industry.

        I think that
        It wasn’t a bobbin,
        [and the one who is censored] was sitting in the cockpit. laughing

        Genetics or mentality is to blame - I don't know. But the Chinese, like the Hindus, can not sit down in the middle of the sidewalk and make a bunch, and then calmly go further - they cannot. I didn’t believe it. Until he went as a tourist and saw ... And I walked along the sidewalk 10 meters behind and ate some kind of pie ... I almost threw up. Well, they would have and it would be normal on the sidewalk ...
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 24 January 2021 10: 33
          +2
          In general, it's a curious connection between the ability to shit on the sidewalk and make a fifth generation fighter. good
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 24 January 2021 10: 57
            +6
            Quote: paul3390
            In general, it's a curious connection between the ability to shit on the sidewalk and make a fifth generation fighter. good

            The link is direct - general culture in general and production culture in particular. A person shitting on the sidewalk cannot develop a high-tech thing, or tighten a nut on an assembly.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 24 January 2021 10: 58
              -1
              Can't man shitting on the sidewalk

              Pissing in an elevator? what
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 24 January 2021 11: 01
                +6
                Quote: paul3390
                Can't man shitting on the sidewalk

                Pissing in an elevator? what

                Also. Only in our elevator some shit, and others collect rockets. And, fortunately, there are much more people who know how to collect rockets than those pigs. And they have shit on the sidewalk - a common practice and is considered normal and common.
                1. Winnie76
                  Winnie76 24 January 2021 13: 08
                  +3
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  Only in our elevator some shit, and others collect rockets.

                  Anything can happen. In St. Petersburg, at one time (like under Sobchak), all public toilets were closed, motivating that anyone could go to any cafe. Yes, somehow it did not grow together. I know a guy from Rubin, he practiced a small need for a garbage chute. I shared a life hack. Now I finally understand the root of the problems with Lada pr 677 laughing
            2. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 24 January 2021 11: 57
              +2
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              The link is direct - general culture in general and production culture in particular. A person shitting on the sidewalk cannot develop a high-tech thing, or tighten a nut on an assembly.

              Igor! Greetings! hi The bunch you have given can be easily destroyed by introducing some very popular anti-binding element into it. Imagine: After a hard day's work, an assembly engineer of the highest category or a design engineer of a rocket or aircraft equipment, a special software developer, or all of them together go, enter a wine-glass room and ... after 2 hours or so ( depending on the region, meteorological conditions and the type of "anisconnecting" selected at that time), the connection was destroyed. But by the morning, communication is usually restored.
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 24 January 2021 12: 34
                +3
                Alexander, hi !
                Quote: Polite Elk
                The bunch you have given can be easily destroyed by the introduction of some very popular anti-binder element into it. [...] But by the morning the connection is usually restored.

                A bunch, Alexander, either is - or it is not. No matter how much "an assembly engineer of the highest category or a design engineer of a missile or aircraft, a programmer-developer of special software, or all together" drank.
                I, too, was not always the general director, and not always, if in the office at the end of the working day I took cognac, the driver took me home. Iron on himself has done decently with his father in the firm and ran around in the craftsmen enough. And we went into the wine-room after work, and after work we refreshed ourselves from half-liter jars at the pub after work - everything was there. But this does not mean that you need to lose your human appearance - like a dog, where you have to shit ...
                I don’t know - maybe my acquaintances, colleagues, were not qualified enough to shit on the street or in the elevator ...
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 24 January 2021 11: 07
          +4
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Well, they would have and it would be ok on the sidewalk ...

          Well, is it really impossible? lol
        3. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 24 January 2021 12: 54
          +2
          In China, the Tibetans could have done this before.) I read about it many times.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 24 January 2021 14: 06
            +4
            Quote: Sergej1972
            In China, the Tibetans could have done this before.) I read about it many times.

            Yes, and it happens with us - why bend the soul. But in our country this is NOT the norm at all, in our country, for this, the cops can twist, and you can simply catch it in the neck. And in India - a common practice, in the order of things ... That's the difference ...
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 24 January 2021 10: 48
        +5
        This is not the point, but rather the national mentality.
        For Indians, the main thing is not to rush.
        The Chinese have to do it on time.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 24 January 2021 10: 54
          -2
          From the Indians - the main thing is to steal more from the topic .. Just like ours. For capitalism. The Chinese, in general, would also be glad to steal something - but they will inevitably shoot them .. For - socialism. wink
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 24 January 2021 11: 21
            +4
            Corruption is developed in both countries. And in both countries they struggle with it, as it interferes with business. In China, success is greater, in India - less.
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 24 January 2021 13: 02
              +1
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Corruption is developed in both countries. And in both countries they struggle with it, as it interferes with business. In China, success is greater, in India - less.

              China began its development earlier than India, its aspiration. In this matter, the main thing is time, not money, but time is money, and as the Chinese joke on the open spaces of the Russian Internet - try to catch up.))
    3. Alf
      Alf 24 January 2021 22: 45
      +1
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      From assorted imported components, like "Lego", assembled ...

      My puppy looks a bit
      On the bulldog and on the dog
      To the dog diver
      And on all shepherd dogs at once.
  4. tTshka
    tTshka 24 January 2021 10: 00
    +1
    Years at StoPiCot wassat
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 January 2021 10: 13
    +3
    Yes, the elbow is close, but you will bite the horseradish. This is what the short-sighted decisions to exit from joint development with Russia cost. And there is no point in talking about the timing, the Indians do not have such a school of aircraft construction and experience as we do.
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 24 January 2021 11: 23
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      Yes, the elbow is close, but you will bite the horseradish. This is what the short-sighted decisions to exit from joint development with Russia cost.

      If Shiva puts 3 of his right hands (palms) on the elbows of the 3 left (not to bite), then all his followers will be able to contemplate in 3 copies a figure symbolizing the result of withdrawal from cooperation with the Russian Federation on FGFA. The ancient Sumerians call this magical figure "piv hand"
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 24 January 2021 11: 53
        0
        We are not up to their troubles, we reason more down to earth and pragmatic. hi
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 24 January 2021 12: 07
          0
          Quote: Ros 56
          We are not up to their troubles, we reason more down to earth and pragmatic. hi

          Using the image of a dancing god, which is close to the eastern mentality, I tried to show how through dances co-authors become buyers.
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 24 January 2021 12: 10
            0
            Well, we are Oyropa, maybe they will buy it with dancing by the year 30. lol
            1. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 24 January 2021 12: 25
              0
              Quote: Ros 56
              Well, we are Oyropa, maybe they will buy it with dancing by the year 30.

              Dance is an unpredictable thing. Where, or rather to whom, the curve will lead the dancers is not yet clear. Unfortunately, we are not the only choreographer in the aircraft market.
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 24 January 2021 12: 38
                0
                With this technique, while there are two of us. And if we still collide in a real battle, then in general one may remain and then it will become clear: xy from xy.
                1. Polite Moose
                  Polite Moose 24 January 2021 13: 09
                  0
                  Quote: Ros 56
                  And if we still collide in a real battle,

                  Not. Better to sell than fight. Thank God there are enough "dancers" in the world.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 24 January 2021 10: 15
    +4
    Very funny news this morning ...
    solid fairy tales, fantasies, and even complete nonsense.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 24 January 2021 10: 20
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      solid fairy tales, fantasies, and even complete nonsense.

      Second more laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 January 2021 10: 42
        +1
        But you don't really need to think about how to evaluate it ... laughing
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 24 January 2021 10: 55
          -1
          Quote: rocket757
          But you don't really need to think about how to evaluate it ...

          In the morning, a charge of vivacity for the whole day laughing
  7. tomket
    tomket 24 January 2021 10: 27
    +4
    We started work on the fifth generation fighters with a slight delay.
    Distracted by dancing. But let's start now. Let's finish the songs.
  8. 501Legion
    501Legion 24 January 2021 10: 29
    +1
    they will not succeed.
  9. alekc75
    alekc75 24 January 2021 10: 31
    +2
    Yes, they themselves would make 3 poks and start the series!
  10. faiver
    faiver 24 January 2021 10: 32
    +1
    So we begin the dance-song series "Indian Fighter of the Fifth Generation", I'm afraid it will surpass the duration of "Santa Barbara" by one time ... laughing
  11. pope
    pope 24 January 2021 10: 36
    +1
    after the completed Indian-French Air Force exercise "Desert Knight 2021".

    Clowns you are desert Indians, excuse me for that .. For big grandmas you were bred by the French and specifically .. You do not listen to Russians and then you will surely regret!
  12. bar
    bar 24 January 2021 10: 46
    +1
    We started work on the fifth generation fighters with a slight delay.

    Yes, just 50 years late. laughing
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 January 2021 10: 51
    +1
    in the process of working on a fighter fifth generations will be "introduced and some principles of aircraft sixth generations ".
    A strange statement. They buy planes all over the world, but they are working on the fifth generation, introducing elements of the sixth. This already looks like Ukraine's statements.
  14. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 24 January 2021 11: 40
    0
    The Indian Marshal noted that in the process of working on the fifth generation fighter "some principles of the sixth generation aircraft will also be introduced."

    The fact what principles are meant, the Indian Air Force commander did not elaborate.
    The price is of course.
  15. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 24 January 2021 13: 20
    0
    Indian Air Force Commander: We started work on the 5th generation fighter with a slight delay


    Did the Indian dancers have a flight school, and experience in the development of aircraft?))
  16. Maki maki
    Maki maki 24 January 2021 21: 39
    +15
    the FGFA project was originally collaborative. But India decided to leave it ... India's AMCA may not appear earlier than 2032

    Not on those put tongue
  17. Pavel57
    Pavel57 25 January 2021 00: 40
    0
    The choice is still small, either the F-35 or the Su-57. sooner or later you will have to do it.
  18. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 25 January 2021 13: 17
    0
    Now the US, China and the Russian Federation have fifth generation fighters ... is that true ??? Is there a reason to put 1 unit in the Air Force on the same line with China, and even more so with the United States? Why didn't I compare it with Europe, or with Japan ... after all, they EXIST there too. Even if you stand still, you don't have to shout at the same time that we came up with it. We built, built, and finally built 1 for the needs of our own air force wassat