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India hopes to show Russian Su-57 during Aero India airshow 2021

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India hopes to show Russian Su-57 during Aero India airshow 2021

Russia may show its fifth generation Su-57 fighter at the Aero India 2021 air show, which will take place in Bangalore, India in early February. This was reported by The Economic Times, citing sources among the organizers of the event.


India hopes that Russia will show its fifth generation Su-57 fighter, which could be a participant in the Indian air show. According to the publication, this will be the debut for the aircraft in South Asia.

Russian fighter could replenish aviation the Indian Armed Forces park as the parties were in talks to produce it

- the newspaper writes.

In addition to the Russian Su-57, another novelty may be shown at the air show - the American strategic bomber B-1. The rest of the equipment that will be presented at the air show is already well known to the audience, since it is in service with the Indian Air Force. We are talking about the French Rafale fighter, the Russian Su-30MKI and the Indian Tejas. Several types of helicopters will also be presented, which are not specifically reported.

So far, no official statements have been made on the Russian side regarding the demonstration of the Su-57 in India.

The 13th aerospace show Aero India 2021 will take place in Bangalore, India from February 3 to 5, 2021. In connection with the coronavirus pandemic, some of the exhibits will be presented in a virtual format.
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  1. Semenov
    Semenov 21 January 2021 19: 22
    +24
    The 13th aerospace show Aero India 2021 will take place in Bangalore, India from February 3 to 5, 2021.

    We have goods - you have a merchant ...
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 21 January 2021 19: 41
      +6
      Quote: Semenov
      The 13th aerospace show Aero India 2021 will take place in Bangalore, India from February 3 to 5, 2021.

      We have goods - you have a merchant ...

      The way comes, perhaps we are bargaining for the export model. wassat Apparently something has matured there with the leadership of India.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 21 January 2021 20: 41
        0
        Quote: XXXIII
        The way comes, perhaps we are bargaining for the export model.

        Where do they come? belay
        Exhibition in India will be at their home
      2. Vadim Ananyin
        Vadim Ananyin 21 January 2021 21: 40
        -1
        Not ripe with them, but completely finished. Something tells me that waking up zilch from this exhibition in this situation!
    2. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 21 January 2021 19: 43
      +18
      Quote: Semenov
      The 13th aerospace show Aero India 2021 will take place in Bangalore, India from February 3 to 5, 2021.

      We have goods - you have a merchant ...

      Selling "product" Indian merchants bully - stock up first patience и valerian - but you will learn a few "Indian dances" fellow
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 21 January 2021 20: 32
        +9
        The fact that the United States does not need the Indians to show the "novelty" B-1 for nothing seems obvious to me.
        If only to scare? Will they not sell?
        And why should we go there Su-57 and people in the epidemic to drive?
        If the Indians want, they will come to us. hi
        1. figwam
          figwam 21 January 2021 20: 40
          +9
          Quote: Alex777
          The fact that the States don’t need the Indians to show the "novelty" B-1

          But I don’t understand why they have a plane of the last century, B-1, became a novelty?
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 21 January 2021 21: 01
            +5
            Quote: figvam
            But I don’t understand why they have a plane of the last century, B-1, became a novelty?

            Perhaps we are talking about the B-21.
            But it is very doubtful that it will be shown.
            1. figwam
              figwam 21 January 2021 21: 12
              +9
              Quote: Flood
              Perhaps we are talking about the B-21.
              But it is very doubtful that it will be shown.

              Judging by the news, the first flight of the B-21 will take place in mid-2022.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 22 January 2021 01: 03
                +3
                Quote: figvam
                Judging by the news, the first flight of the B-21 will take place in mid-2022.

                I meant, of course, a static display.
                But this is highly unlikely anyway.
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 21 January 2021 23: 38
              +3
              Perhaps we are talking about the B-21.

              Its maiden flight was postponed until 2022. wink
          2. Constanty
            Constanty 22 January 2021 00: 01
            +1
            A novelty (for the first time) at these exhibitions, not a new aircraft model. In the end it is Airshow a not only the arms market

            the shocking IL-102 was a novelty at the airshow of the 90s. wink
      2. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 21 January 2021 21: 33
        -3
        Were you a pilot? Write please. In lx.
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 21 January 2021 23: 26
        0
        Quote: cat Rusich
        Selling "goods" to Indian merchants - first, be patient and valerian - but you will learn a few "Indian dances"

        And they also have a Kamasutra for the brain. And this book is four times thicker than the usual Kamasutra.
    3. Simfy
      Simfy 21 January 2021 21: 55
      0
      13th .... the number is not beautiful, no figs to do there, contracts can be signed in Moscow
  2. Vadim_888
    Vadim_888 21 January 2021 19: 24
    +17
    I think the Indians will have to wait until MAKS ... Dragging a fresh secret plane to hell is not really an idea ...
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 21 January 2021 19: 28
      -2
      You can always send the first samples or a layout
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 21 January 2021 19: 31
        +4
        The Indians have a smell of fried, and the layout of the obviously will not suit ...
        1. venik
          venik 21 January 2021 19: 42
          +2
          Quote: Vadim_888
          The Indians have a smell of fried, and the layout of the obviously will not suit ...

          =========
          So it seems like 11 prototypes and pre-production models are already flying .... And they have already flown in the Parades on the MAKS ... And the one that was recently transferred to the troops is the 1st SERIAL! What prevents samples from LGITs from showing? request
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 21 January 2021 20: 27
            +6
            The most correct thing is to invite the Indians to the Russian Federation ..... maybe on your Su30 ... and pat them on the Su57
          2. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 21 January 2021 20: 46
            0
            Quote: venik
            so this is the 1st SERIAL!

            And not the second one?
            The first one seems to be overtaken to Lipetsk
            1. Al_lexx
              Al_lexx 21 January 2021 23: 10
              0
              Quote: Lipchanin
              And not the second one?
              The first one seems to be overtaken to Lipetsk

              It is the second copy that is always considered serial. The first is setup.
        2. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 22 January 2021 12: 14
          0
          And nothing else can the Russian Federation help ....... only if the Indians build a new plant for us to produce the required amount of Su57 and Products30 ... and it will take some time.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 21 January 2021 19: 50
        +3
        Just about, you must show it. And everything that could be seen on it with the naked eye, all sorts of air intakes there have long seen everything.
      3. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 21 January 2021 20: 44
        0
        Quote: Zaurbek
        send or layout

        Especially since
        In connection with the coronavirus pandemic, some of the exhibits will be presented in a virtual format.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 21 January 2021 19: 36
      +3
      say the next Max must wait 4 years. Rumors go that they will transfer from Zhukovsky to Kubinka. Was at the last one. The most superlative degree of admiration. Everyone knows about her, but for some reason you can't talk
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 21 January 2021 19: 47
        +6
        179 days left until Max 2021 on the official website
  3. Mouse
    Mouse 21 January 2021 19: 34
    +7
    Is Rafale missing? recourse
    1. Nikolay1987
      Nikolay1987 21 January 2021 19: 37
      +9
      Apparently the show promises to be boring, so the SU-57 is the only thing that everyone would be looking at.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 21 January 2021 19: 49
        +6
        To look does not mean to buy ...
        1. Russ
          Russ 21 January 2021 20: 25
          +4
          And this ... you don't get paid for watching ...
  4. Poetry
    Poetry 21 January 2021 19: 40
    +2
    Hindus resemble a monkey from an old Soviet joke:
    "The lion, the king of beasts, gathered all his charges and said:" It is required to divide the animals into two groups. The beautiful ones go to the left, and the smart ones go to the right. "
    The animals began to disperse, one monkey begins to rush feverishly and lament: "Well, what am I, bursting or something !?"
  5. alexmach
    alexmach 21 January 2021 19: 43
    0
    another novelty may be shown at the air show - the American strategic bomber B-1

    I wonder from what year this news?
    1. Avior
      Avior 21 January 2021 20: 21
      +3
      Perhaps F-21? Or 21?
      It's too early for V-21, F-21 seems to be not yet
      It's hard to say what they wanted to write
  6. Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 January 2021 19: 49
    +3
    Now the Indians are probably scratching their turnips. Dancing. The impatient themselves refused to work together. winked
    1. Avior
      Avior 21 January 2021 20: 22
      +2
      A two-seater version was developed with India
  7. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 21 January 2021 19: 54
    +2
    Did the dancers decide to look at the su-57?))

    Look, only orders will be more expensive, there is nothing to show off)))
  8. IRS
    IRS 21 January 2021 19: 55
    0
    "India hopes" ... military prowess cannot be bought for money ... like brains ... before you had to think about where to invest.
  9. bar
    bar 21 January 2021 19: 58
    +1
    The Russian fighter could replenish the aircraft fleet of the Indian Armed Forces, since the parties were negotiating its production

    I could have replenished it if the Indians danced less and thought more. Now what else ... request
  10. Cron
    Cron 21 January 2021 20: 01
    -3
    In connection with the coronavirus pandemic, some of the exhibits will be presented in a virtual format.

    1. bar
      bar 21 January 2021 20: 03
      +2
      Quote: Cron
      In connection with the coronavirus pandemic, some of the exhibits will be presented in a virtual format.

      And that's right, otherwise everything will drip with saliva ...
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 January 2021 20: 02
    +2
    It seems that the Indians are not Jews, but theirs. bully
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 21 January 2021 20: 10
    +2
    Let them watch and strangle their toad ...
  13. Avior
    Avior 21 January 2021 20: 15
    0
    Surely Su-57 will be there
    India has money for planes and a tasty market, albeit a specific system of choice, what to do
  14. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 21 January 2021 20: 22
    +2
    but could participate in the development)))))) but took and left .... now decide to buy - pay like everyone else ..... and "heg" you, not technology
  15. Kerensky
    Kerensky 21 January 2021 20: 28
    0
    This is not for Hindus. They launched this news to attract foreigners. Those who said "there is nothing to watch there" pack their bags according to the principle "what if?" It's one thing to watch footage in flight, it's another to take pictures of everything, get hold of an advertisement, ask questions. While you wait for MAX, the cunning guys will have time to make friends with ours.
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 January 2021 20: 28
    0
    With them, it is still necessary to bring the Su30 to the SuperDry program to mind.
  17. Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 21 January 2021 21: 30
    0
    No, after all sorts of Indokosyakov and vyshulivaniya at the level of the Arab bazaar like you give us technology at a cheaper price then you will be good may not slip through. They want to enter paradise again at someone else's expense.
  18. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 21 January 2021 22: 07
    +2
    They screwed up such a car, could not tolerate a couple of years and would be covered in chocolate
  19. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 21 January 2021 22: 21
    +3
    We have our own air show.
    The first official display of serious high-tech weapons, this affects the raising of the prestige of the event. Why do we need to promote someone else's air show?

    Moreover, the Indians have already shown once their inconsistency by refusing to participate in joint development.
    Let's just say negative PR.
    If we bring the SU-57 for sale and the Indians will again throw something out of the dancers' repertoire, like we saw the Russian plane and it disappointed us. Why do we need this.

    Moreover, after their feints with this particular model, it is not right to go to them to sell, let them now come to buy themselves.

    At the Indians' exhibition, you need to put up a beautiful stand, play videos, give souvenirs, say that the plane is ready for sale, you can see it at MAKS, come.
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 21 January 2021 23: 06
      +1
      Su-57 has already been demonstrated at MAKS.
      1. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 21 January 2021 23: 28
        0
        Quote: Eye of the Crying
        Su-57 has already been demonstrated at MAKS.


        Well, then there were "experimental" and most likely with the first stage engine.

        For sale, it is necessary to show already serial ones with standard second stage engines.
        Those. you will acquire such planes that fly in front of you.
        Everything is debugged with them, there are no problems, everything corresponds to the stated TTX.
        1. Titus_2
          Titus_2 22 January 2021 00: 49
          0
          And that product 30 is already in the series?
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 21 January 2021 23: 45
      +1
      Why do we need to promote someone else's air show?


      Then, to advertise our plane.

      It is one thing when he is seen in photographs, and quite another when Indians and the military and civilians see him in the air in their skies.

      After that, a bunch of reports and articles will be released about the Su-57 in India, and many will ask the question: "Why did India leave the 5th generation fighter project?"

      Among other things, I think the Indians will have the opportunity to assess how much low-visibility technology is used in the Su-57 and draw conclusions based on facts, and not on the speculations of various "experts".
      1. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 21 January 2021 23: 59
        0
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Why do we need to promote someone else's air show?


        Then, to advertise our plane.

        It is one thing when he is seen in photographs, and quite another when Indians and the military and civilians see him in the air in their skies.

        After that, a bunch of reports and articles will be released about the Su-57 in India, and many will ask the question: "Why did India leave the 5th generation fighter project?"

        Among other things, I think the Indians will have the opportunity to assess how much low-visibility technology is used in the Su-57 and draw conclusions based on facts, and not on the speculations of various "experts".


        Only India does not want to buy an airplane from us, they want technology and production in India. The planes themselves are like an app. Because we are going to India with our goods, it will be considered that we have come to sell the plane to the Indians. If we don’t sell it, it’s as if something is wrong with the plane. And we probably won't sell because Indians want technology. What will the dancers start to say?
        That they want too much and lip rolls. No, they will say that SU57 is bad and they do not need this, that they are interested in another manufacturer there, etc.

        Why go for bad ads?
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 22 January 2021 09: 22
          0
          Yes, no one sells or transfers any technology, the maximum is assembly on the territory of the country.

          Did India get a lot of technology from Apache? No, they were only allowed to make a corps at home, and all equipment and weapons from the USA come ready for installation.

          India has no alternative to the Su-57, or joint production, in which they will be able to adopt something, or India will remain in front of China without an inconspicuous fighter.

          And the advertising of the Su-57 in India will not be superfluous.
  20. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 21 January 2021 23: 37
    +1
    It would be wise for India to resume cooperation with Russia on the Su-57 program and get a 5th generation fighter for itself.

    Neither China nor the United States will give them such an opportunity and for reasonable money.

    I think India will not make its 5th generation aircraft very soon and how much resources it will take is unknown as well as the final result is unknown.
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 22 January 2021 01: 07
      0
      It's too late, our su57 have already done it, and the Indians threw us at the most crucial moment, I would sell them planes with an extra charge, they are ready to buy rafali like some vassals, despite the fact that the French said that they were shish, and not technology without order of at least 100 cars.
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 22 January 2021 15: 46
        0
        Why vassals ?!

        Rafal is a very good aircraft, there are a lot of composites in its design, radar with AFAR and so on, and for India it will not be superfluous, but what came out at a price like two F-35s well, so carefully you need to read the fine print and negotiate the cost.

        Among other things, the purchase of the Rafale will enable India to evaluate this aircraft and possibly use something in the future for its fighter.

        In general, the fact that India bought Rafali is good for them, bad for us, because we haven’t sold our new MiG-35s to them yet, which means that we are not satisfied with the Indians, and the Su-30SM is already becoming obsolete against the background of the 5th generation fighters of China and the USA ...

        India is the most promising arms market for us and we need to cooperate more closely with them. They are not enemies to us and they are far from us, we have no territorial disputes with them, and indeed we have never fought with them like.

        But China tomorrow will shoot down our planes and bomb Khabarovsk and Vladivostok with our Su-35 and S-400.

        We have already fought with China more than once. Now China will strengthen and make a lot of claims to us.
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 23 January 2021 05: 16
          +1
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Why vassals ?!

          Rafal is a very good aircraft, there are a lot of composites in its design, radar with AFAR and so on, and for India it will not be superfluous, but what came out at a price like two F-35s well, so carefully you need to read the fine print and negotiate the cost.

          Among other things, the purchase of the Rafale will enable India to evaluate this aircraft and possibly use something in the future for its fighter.

          In general, the fact that India bought Rafali is good for them, bad for us, because we haven’t sold our new MiG-35s to them yet, which means that we are not satisfied with the Indians, and the Su-30SM is already becoming obsolete against the background of the 5th generation fighters of China and the USA ...

          India is the most promising arms market for us and we need to cooperate more closely with them. They are not enemies to us and they are far from us, we have no territorial disputes with them, and indeed we have never fought with them like.

          But China tomorrow will shoot down our planes and bomb Khabarovsk and Vladivostok with our Su-35 and S-400.

          We have already fought with China more than once. Now China will strengthen and make a lot of claims to us.

          Why not vassals? Instead of getting the opportunity to make an aircraft of the 5th generation by SAMIM, they threw us and bought Rafali, the technology for which they will not receive and they know 100%, they do not care about technical gadgets. And yes, for a try they do not take such batches - they would take 3 pieces and test. Plus, it's again a zoo and a logistics nightmare. And yes, stop writing this nonsense (don't offend, I can't call it anything else) about China, I have already written here more than once why China is not going to seize anything from us anyway, I’m tired of listening to these stories. We fought with them specifically only 2 times - on KVD and in Damansky. In the first case, there was no single government in China and there were nationalist tsars; in the second case, Khrushchev was already to blame. All. And before these conflicts, our "white and fluffy" country crushed all kinds of boxing uprisings together with Western countries. China has no reason to attack, territory? They themselves have a lot of it, and their climate is milder, but they still go south. Resources? They also have a lot of resources, and we sell ours to them anyway, there is no need to explore anything. So stop it.
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 23 January 2021 12: 00
            +1
            China has a lot of territory, but this did not prevent them from seizing the territories of Kazakhstan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan during the demarcation of the border after the collapse of the USSR.

            And with Russia, they will do the same when the opportunity arises, they are already processing their population in their media talking about the injustice in the delimitation of the borders between China and Russia.

            It's just that while China is inferior to us in military power in general, taking into account nuclear weapons and missile potential, but when the preponderance is on their side, the friendship will end instantly.

            India bought Rafali not instead of the 5th generation fighter, but instead of the 3rd generation fighters, which must already be removed from service. They just want to replace the old MiG-21. And if it were not for the flaws of the MiG-35, then the contract would have been ours, but the MiG apparently turned out to be too crude and did not impress the Indians, and Rafal, as an alternative to the MiG-35, is quite a worthy fighter, especially the Indians, the French Mirages, exploited and the experience was quite successful.

            And they left a joint project with Russia on the 5th generation of fighters under the pretext that the stealth of the Su-57 does not quite meet the requirements for 5th generation aircraft, and the real reason may be completely different, it may have become expensive, now everyone has crisis, they are saving, or, for example, Western intelligence services could simply buy the officials responsible for this project in India and they left the project under such a pretext that of course they deprived our military-industrial complex of additional funds and served as a bad advertisement for the Su-57.

            In any case, we need to develop our aviation, we have no other options and we need to do it at least no worse than that of our competitors, so that we can equip our aerospace forces with a decent aircraft and earn money on exports for our military-industrial complex and the country.
            1. Quadro
              Quadro 24 January 2021 01: 31
              0
              I agree with you about the development. And the mirage and the raphal are too different planes to argue with this, unless they understand French in the on-board computer. Yes, and they are too expensive to raise the question "rafal / moment", and indeed it was stupid for them to hope that for such a price we would make them like rafal, and even give them technology, we have cars that are more expensive and better, so let them take , for the price of Raphael we will make a spaceship for them But it is mainly Taiwan that spins on Russia's injustice to China, it is they who consider the Far East and Siberia their own and dream of a Chinese empire, I don’t remember that we did not have a single tank and soldier on the border with that "peaceful" Poland, and so with China and there is. Our lands are harsh for them and they are a suitcase without a handle, and even with a hostile population, and they also have Uighurs. In addition, the Chinese are reducing their ground forces and increasing their maritime, including landing, interests in the southeast, and ours in the west (in relation to them). And I don’t remember that the Chinese ever climbed to us, they were always busy in the south.
              1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 24 January 2021 01: 39
                +2
                And I don’t remember that the Chinese ever climbed to us, they were always busy in the south.


                Damansky in 1969 and a number of other provocations on our border in the Far East have you already forgotten ?!

                Our lands are rich in resources, and it is worth a little weakening of our country and the army and repeat Foreign intervention is already 2.0
                1. Quadro
                  Quadro 24 January 2021 13: 24
                  -2
                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  And I don’t remember that the Chinese ever climbed to us, they were always busy in the south.


                  Damansky in 1969 and a number of other provocations on our border in the Far East have you already forgotten ?!

                  Our lands are rich in resources, and it is worth a little weakening of our country and the army and repeat Foreign intervention is already 2.0

                  Do you even read what I am writing, or just an anti-Chinese hysteria? I have already mentioned Damansky and the traitor Khrushchev is to blame for this. What is the use of "wealth" if these resources have to be explored and extracted AT YOUR OWN expense. And foreigners interfere in any country in times of weakness, we are no exception, there is simply no need to give reasons.
              2. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 24 January 2021 13: 22
                0
                for the price of raphal we will make a spaceship for them.
                Yourself would have done yes
  21. Klingon
    Klingon 22 January 2021 04: 09
    0
    B-1 what's new? pepelats was developed in the late 70s and in the 80s, as it were. the author confused something?
  22. Antokha
    Antokha 22 January 2021 09: 46
    0
    And where is the quote from the article that confirms the thesis in the title?