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Dozor-B: how Ukraine is trying to solve the problem of low-quality armor on its armored vehicles

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History of the Dozor-B armored vehicle project is another large-scale fiasco of the military industry of independent Ukraine. The need for a light wheeled armored vehicle for the needs of special forces in Kiev was realized at the very beginning of the XNUMXs. For the first time, an experimental model of an armored vehicle was presented at armory exhibition back in 2004. In 2006, Kiev reported on the completion of the development of an armored vehicle, and in 2011 the license for the production of Dozor-B was purchased by the Polish company Mista.


True, the Poles, apparently taking an example from their "hot" Baltic neighbors, swayed slowly: only in 2013 they completed the preparation of the production line for Dozor-B. In 2014, the second copy of "Dozor-B" was presented at the training ground of the National Guard of Ukraine near Kharkov, and then the country's leadership announced: the car will be produced in Lviv, at the Lviv Armored Plant. The fortress of the Dozor-B armor was personally tested in front of the cameras by the then President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko.

At present, the history of "Dozor-B", as we can see, has been at least 17 years old. During this time, Ukraine managed to produce less than two dozen armored vehicles. Most of them are operated in Ukraine, one prototype is in Poland and 2 more armored vehicles were purchased by Senegal. Ukrainian "Dozor-B" are in service with the 95th airmobile brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

But the small number of "Patrols" released is not the main problem. Much worse is the fact that the quality of the armored vehicles has become the subject of many jokes. Witty users of the global web even managed to rename Dozor-B to Shame. And it would be okay to embarrass yourself on the net, the main thing is not to embarrass yourself on the battlefield, but for Ukrainian armored vehicles, such an ending is quite expected.

On the video - a few years ago Ukraine proudly presented its new armored vehicle. But something went wrong ...



And the steel is not real ...


Back in the spring of 2016, information appeared on the results of checking a batch of armored vehicles that came off the assembly line of the Lviv Armored Plant. Cracks in the hulls were found on two armored vehicles. If we were talking about hundreds of armored vehicles, then a marriage in two of them could still be allowed, but there are so few "patrols".

How is Ukraine trying to solve the problem of low-quality armor?

Then the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine became interested in the quality of Dozor-B armor. NABU employees carried out the seizure of technical documentation in the Kharkiv Design Bureau for Mechanical Engineering named after A.A. Morozov. Investigators attempted to establish what explained the manufacturers' decision to switch from the planned 71 grade to the Armstal-500 grade.

As a result of the examination, it was established that the steel purchased for the new armored vehicles did not comply with the EU standards. It turned out that the armored sheets did not have an anti-corrosion coating, and the individual marking of the armored steel sheet was not affixed. Chemical analysis of the armor by Yuzhmash specialists showed that it did not meet the declared characteristics. Another interesting detail has appeared: the metal turned out to be suspiciously similar to the products of the Novolipetsk Metallurgical Plant in Russia - the kind of steel that is not used at all for the production of armored vehicles.

Ukroboronprom tried to refute the criticism of the armor: they also talked about information injections in order to discredit an excellent armored vehicle, and that the Dozor-B armor was made in Poland and is used in the armies of NATO countries. As a result, Ukraine bought a batch of Polish armored vehicles "Oncilla", which, however, also did not pass the tests.

What lies ahead for Dozor-B


In 2018, Dozor-B received additional hinged booking. He became more protected, having received, according to the manufacturers, the ability to withstand shelling from large-caliber weapons. The vital zones of the armored vehicle and its troop compartment were strengthened with hinged armor. They decided to abandon the use of the previous options. But all the problems were not solved. We need large orders, and so far only talk about them.

In August 2020, the new Minister of Strategic Industry of Ukraine Oleg Urusky, arriving in Kharkov and visiting the same Kharkov Design Bureau for Mechanical Engineering (KMDB) named after I. A.A. Morozov, promised a radical cleansing of the management of Ukroboronprom. The official also announced the aforementioned large orders for the production of Dozor-B from the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies.

But will the Ukrainians be able to release new batches of "Dozor-B" already with normal armor, or will the network skeptics, who dubbed the armored vehicle "Shame", be right? Time will show. And a lot will depend not only on manufacturers, but also on officials at Ukroboronprom.



So far, the Kharkov plant has announced a procurement campaign for spare parts and components for the production of the above-mentioned armored vehicles. Defense Express publishes nomenclature items in documents dated October 2020.

Earlier, KMDB purchased from LBTZ a set of slipways for welding the body of the Dozor-B armored vehicle for UAH 375 (about 468 million rubles at the official exchange rate).
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 19 January 2021 14: 19
    +13
    The fortress of the Dozor-B armor was personally tested in front of the cameras by the then President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko.


    Poked with your finger, or checked your forehead?
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 19 January 2021 14: 29
      +22
      Responsibly approached - and poked with his finger, and checked his forehead.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 19 January 2021 14: 36
        +13
        Quote: Crowe
        Responsibly approached - and poked with his finger, and checked his forehead.


        Well, thank you ! yes Haven't seen this photo.

        Stick on the sticker, hog ... yes
      2. YOUR
        YOUR 19 January 2021 14: 37
        +8
        I also breathed on the glass. Well done. Didn't melt.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 January 2021 14: 42
          +9
          Quote: YOUR
          I also breathed on the glass. Well done. Didn't melt.

          But, after his burnout, repeated stress, even at 5,45 "at the end", this particular piece of glass will no longer bear ...
      3. CommanderDIVA
        CommanderDIVA 19 January 2021 14: 56
        +3
        This is apparently an American Hammer from among the Americans handed over to Ukrainians, and not Dozor
        1. sedoj
          sedoj 19 January 2021 15: 10
          +2
          This is not visible, this is the Hummer. The first batch of American delivery. Which then the rubber fell apart on the move.
          1. yehat2
            yehat2 19 January 2021 15: 27
            +4
            these are decommissioned hummers.
            and in general, Ukraine mostly buys decommissioned weapons abroad - self-propelled howitzers, armored cars and armored personnel carriers, boats, javelins, etc.
            I think the amount of kickbacks and shadow profits is just crazy there.
            1. sgrabik
              sgrabik 19 January 2021 18: 09
              +2
              All the junk that has been scrapped is sold to Ukraine under the guise of new and most effective weapons !!! Kaklam and such junk for happiness, fish for bezrybe and cancer !!!
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 January 2021 15: 42
          +5
          Quote: CommanderDIVA
          This is apparently an American Hammer from among the Americans handed over to Ukrainians, and not Dozor

          It is not important. At the root of the problem is that misunderstandings personally participate in ceremonies of this kind, which in normal countries are simply "routine".

          And they have - "peremoga", a significant event, the fifth wheel was attached to the cart ...
          1. Borik
            Borik 19 January 2021 17: 04
            +3
            How is Ukraine trying to solve the problem of low-quality armor?


            How, how, yes, take and putty all the cracks and paint again. And they know how to paint, they do it beautifully.
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 19 January 2021 18: 37
              -1
              Quote: Borik
              How, how, yes, take and putty all the cracks and paint again. And they know how to paint, they do it beautifully.

              I would not be so ironic in assessing their capabilities, if only because in Ukraine there was one of the leading academic institutes of materials science in the USSR, which was created in the fifties, and which is known not only to our specialists, but throughout the world for its developments. Of course, after the collapse of the USSR, they had a huge failure there, but if they wanted, they could really develop serious armor in the XNUMXs:

              As of early 2008, the institute was able to:
              - to organize pilot production of elements of armor protection from ceramic composite materials and to manufacture body armor of I - V protection classes

              True, in 2019 Svidomo put up an experimental plant for sale, but this does not mean that the institute itself is not working. And if they pour money into it, which is of course doubtful, then they will be able to create the necessary armor. But I can hardly believe it ...
              1. sgrabik
                sgrabik 20 January 2021 08: 49
                -1
                Let's better rely on the current situation in this institute and in all of its main contractors, even the armored plant named after Malysheva practically does not work in Kharkov, interrupting with minor repairs and modernizations of old equipment of the Soviet period, and you are talking about some kind of breakthrough technologies in creating super-armor, all this is nonsense, I admit that under Yanukovych all this, quite possibly, worked successfully, and with maidan horses who illegally seized power in Ukraine, practically all science and production have degraded and are now in deep decline !!!
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 20 January 2021 12: 45
                  -1
                  Quote: sgrabik
                  in Ukraine, almost all science and production have degraded and are now in deep decline !!!

                  I have no doubt about this, as well as the fact that in Ukraine, those who received their academic degrees in the USSR are still working in the scientific community. Therefore, I stipulated that certain conditions were needed for the revival, and even then I doubted that they would be able to revive. By the way, the armored plant is not a specialized academic research institute, where the brains of many have been preserved since Soviet times.
      4. mu1972
        mu1972 22 January 2021 23: 39
        0
        + 100% to life, + 50% to armor + 80%
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 19 January 2021 18: 59
      0
      Farted in the direction of "Shame", but it doesn't matter. It is important that they brought the cutlet to Parasha, everything else is nonsense.
  2. businessv
    businessv 19 January 2021 14: 29
    +12
    Earlier, KMDB purchased from LBTZ a set of slipways for welding the body of the Dozor-B armored vehicle for UAH 375 (about 468 million rubles at the official exchange rate).
    I don't even know what can be said to the Russian reader about the products of the Ukrainian-Polish tandem ?! Personally, I am indifferent to the fate of the non-armored vehicle, which they cannot bring to mind for 17 years, as well as the fate of the people who allowed it! I am very interested if there are orders for our "Tiger", the tests of which for its resistance to explosions and shots I saw in the Military Acceptance. And if there are orders, how many? soldier With the Baptism of Christ everyone! All health, kindness and prosperity! smile
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 19 January 2021 14: 42
      +8
      Quote: businessv
      I am very interested if there are orders for our "Tiger"

      ... In the far abroad, in addition to the PRC, "Tigers" work in Jordan, Mongolia, Uruguay, Congo, Guinea and Slovakia. According to some reports, a certain number of "Tigers" were transferred by our military to the Syrian soldiers ...
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 19 January 2021 14: 45
        +3
        Quote: dvina71
        and Slovakia

        In Slovakia, a NATO member country, what kind of wind did the Tiger blow? belay
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 19 January 2021 14: 46
          +4
          Quote: Insurgent
          In Slovakia, a NATO member country, what kind of wind did the Tiger blow?

          To the police.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 19 January 2021 14: 50
            +6
            Quote: dvina71
            To the police.

            Honestly, I saw "Niva" in the Czech police, but "Tiger" in Slovakia, even in the police, is a surprise to me yes
            Now I will look for information.

            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 19 January 2021 14: 59
              +2
              Quote: Insurgent
              Now I will look for information.


              Yes, it is. It turns out that in 2016, there was a short article about this on VO, but then I was busy with somewhat different things, and the information "escaped" from me.
            2. yehat2
              yehat2 19 January 2021 15: 28
              +4
              The cornfield was also bought by England - more than 200 pieces for the rural police, in the USA it is popular with farmers.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 19 January 2021 15: 36
                +3
                Quote: yehat2
                The cornfield was also bought by England - more than 200 pieces for the rural police, in the USA it is popular with farmers.

                So UAZ "Patriot" began to be sold in the United States through an Italian gasket company.
                Bremach Inc. became the official distributor of UAZ "Patriot" and "Pickup" in the US and since October 2020 has been selling Russian SUVs under its own nameplate.
                UAZ "Patriot" received a new name in the USA - Bremach Taos, the model in the back of the "Pickup" was dubbed Brio.
                The price of the Taos SUV is $ 26 (approximately 405 million rubles).

                1. yehat2
                  yehat2 19 January 2021 15: 39
                  +3
                  The Italians tune the car a lot, and the Niva went to England almost unchanged - there only the seats and other small things were changed. There is a stable crowd of VAZ fans in Germany, but they buy no more than 3-4 thousand a year.
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 19 January 2021 15: 49
                    +4
                    Quote: yehat2
                    There is a stable crowd of VAZ fans in Germany, but they buy no more than 3-4 thousand a year.

                    And in Sweden. "Niva" is rolling around the world, and what is interesting with the most friendly reviews, unlike some Russian media and "experts" - "how much can you rivet this old, it's time to landfill"...

                    So "Niva-Travel" has not really gone on sale yet, but it is already being poured from all the garbage cans.

                    1. Kot_Kuzya
                      Kot_Kuzya 20 January 2021 06: 49
                      +1
                      Quote: Insurgent
                      unlike some Russian media and "experts" - "how much you can rivet this old stuff, it's time to landfill" ...

                      Niva is a classic, a great car for its purpose - off-road trips with relative comfort, and for very little money. If I lived in a village, I would definitely buy a Niva.
                      1. nsm1
                        nsm1 24 January 2021 10: 51
                        +1
                        I had a short cornfield at my disposal to serve the bushes.
                        Long ago, when good roads were not everywhere.
                        Extremely positive experience, cool car.
            3. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 19 January 2021 20: 54
              +1
              And I met "Niva" in South Africa
            4. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 19 January 2021 20: 59
              +1
              Here you can see better
      2. businessv
        businessv 19 January 2021 19: 03
        0
        Quote: dvina71
        ... In the far abroad, in addition to the PRC, "Tigers" work in Jordan, Mongolia, Uruguay, Congo, Guinea and Slovakia.

        Class! good Thanks for the information, colleague! smile
    2. Runway
      Runway 19 January 2021 14: 47
      0
      Tiger - 7 tons of misunderstanding. A tribute to fashion. Satisfy the MO / "Guard" / Ministry of Internal Affairs - they will start cooking a new-fashioned buggy cart.
  3. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 19 January 2021 15: 07
    +3
    ,, cooperators "unfortunate. Donbass coal -" from Pennsylvania "Gazprom gas -" from Europe ", armor - from Novolipetsk. National trait - to deceive each other. Strange people .... but as they rode, at 91, they rode 2004. Skakali - in 2014 .. Ukraine - - a geographic and political misunderstanding.
    1. zenion
      zenion 19 January 2021 16: 20
      0
      Most importantly, the main thing, pidpalyty khatu, schob sushid sralnyk zgoriv.
  4. zenion
    zenion 19 January 2021 16: 18
    0
    Cracks can be caulked with plasticine, the main thing is that it does not flow on your head. If the car has a barrel, then while driving, you can drive Samzhene-type moonshine from a beet.
  5. sgrabik
    sgrabik 19 January 2021 18: 20
    +1
    Anecdote about "Khokhlo Dozor": This is a leaky bucket on wheels, can it really still go ??? Maybe, but not far and shitty-shitty !!!
  6. Constanty
    Constanty 19 January 2021 19: 49
    +1
    Sorry, there is a mistake in the title. It says "Watch" instead of "Shame" laughing
  7. Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 19 January 2021 20: 36
    +1
    Yes! Shit on the low-quality armor of the Usrai troops!
  8. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 19 January 2021 20: 44
    -4
    The article is ummm, a little lopsided.
    On the one hand, the author wants to praise our neighbors,
    that they are armed, according to their strength and capabilities.
    On the other hand, he scolds for such attempts.
    Cracks (which are interesting, where exactly)
    in a small (!) (which one?) batch of cars ...
    The grade of steel is not the same (swimming trunks are different, where the numbers are, I wonder)
    NLMZ was dragged along, like, according to rumors, it is on the side of the heat (and what's wrong with that).
    In general, the article is similar to the gossip of grannies on the bench at the entrance,
    no specifics and a bunch of Corvalol.
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 19 January 2021 22: 03
    0
    Yeah, hard fate at the car
    The prototypes of the new Ukrainian armored vehicles "Dozor-B" during the tests formed through cracks in the armored hull. 05.04.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX
    As a result, the delivery of these machines to the Armed Forces of Ukraine had to be postponed.
    According to media reports, cracks about 40-50 centimeters long are located in the area where the engine is located. The armored cars on which these defects were found covered a little more than 400 and 100 kilometers.