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Polish observer: Belarusian Air Force strengthened by Russian fighters "with a French accent"

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The columnist for the Polish edition of Defense24, Mateusz Zilonka, writes about the strengthening of the air force component of the Republic of Belarus in 2020. In particular, it is indicated that the Belarussian Air Force received a batch of Russian Su-30SM multipurpose fighters. At the same time, Zilonka calls these aircraft for the Air Force of the Republic of Belarus "Russian fighters with a French accent."


The Polish observer gives such a description, noting that “some of the Su-30SM planes delivered to Belarus received French components instead of Russian avionics components.

From the article:

For example, the Belarus version of the Russian 4 ++ generation fighters has an improved human-machine interface, designed and built by Thales.

It is an industrial group headquartered in France. It is engaged in the production of equipment and components for aviation, space and marine applications. In particular, the company is one of the world leaders in the production of electronic warfare systems and avionics, radar stations. This company is engaged in the assembly of onboard electronic equipment for the Eurofighter Typhoon fighters.

The Polish observer writes that the equipment installed on the Su-30 for RB was allegedly developed for the Rafale fighters, “but it is also used on the Su-30MKM of the Malaysian Air Force and the Su-30SM of the Kazakhstan Air Force.

The Polish Defense Ministry said earlier that Poland "needs to respond to the strengthening of the military potential of Belarus." At the same time, it is constantly mentioned about the allegedly existing danger for the Suwalki corridor.
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  1. Sergey39
    Sergey39 31 December 2020 16: 30
    +7
    The normal business principle: Any whim for your money.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 31 December 2020 17: 31
      +9
      Polish observer: Belarusian Air Force strengthened by Russian fighters "with a French accent"
      "Normandie-Niemen" ...
    2. RealPilot
      RealPilot 31 December 2020 19: 58
      +5
      And when the question is once again asked: why do we need "independent" Belarus, this is one of the answers!
      You can go there, but we can't put cunning equipment ...

      The integration of foreign avionics is the development of our defense industry, the development of methods of another design school for our purposes. And while the process is very difficult.
      We then substitute, modify and improve a lot of imports. At the same time, we look at their technologies in the same way as they do at ours (both the Su-30, and the S-400, etc. ...).
      Until there is a war, this is natural cooperation. Mutually beneficial.

      Well, as a war, so "smart" toys will quickly end, and again they will have to bomb with cast iron ... And bring the descendant T-34 tanks into the field ...
  2. prior
    prior 31 December 2020 16: 35
    +16
    Again the nobles of Warsaw
    They pee in their pants with fear.
    A pair of "Sukhoi" plunged into stress,
    The result is anuresis.
    1. RVAPatriot
      RVAPatriot 31 December 2020 16: 44
      +4
      The lords did not succeed in the Maidan in the Republic of Belarus, it did not work to tear it away from Russia, there are many sitting and boiling ... Bastards ...
      1. Naive
        Naive 1 January 2021 23: 30
        -2
        You mean it didn't work out? Is it all over already? And the lords do everything very well (with the very intensive help of your Putin). Sadly, very soon Belarus will be associated with betrayal ... although it is you, or rather your leadership, traitors, they managed to destroy in a couple of months what the Americans could not do with their collapse of the union and 28 years after it !!! And all this for the sake of a mustachioed deceiver, who immediately sent you through the forest after being saved! ps How quickly his summer pre-election performances with Vgnerovtsy, enemies number 1, invaders of Belarusian land from the east and other nonsense have quickly faded in your memory!
        1. RVAPatriot
          RVAPatriot 4 January 2021 18: 25
          0
          You exactly correspond to your nickname "Naive", Luka must leave, no one argues, but you, like Judas, run ... and try to ruin the life of ordinary people, although what to say, you even run for a bandera with your flags ... Suckings are ordinary, life here is not sugar anyway, and you make it even worse. I am a Minsker, if suddenly I saw enough of your trainings before the weekend under the balcony, and what pleases you, less and less you, which cannot but please. So I see your peramogu with my own eyes
          1. Naive
            Naive 5 January 2021 00: 10
            -1
            Are you a Minsker? In my opinion, you are not even writing from Belarus! An adult (and even from Minsk) who is not at the feeding trough cannot reason like this, seeing the whole situation with his own eyes, cannot! So ... from the beach ...
            1. RVAPatriot
              RVAPatriot 5 January 2021 00: 22
              0
              This is the beach from the sea, about which psaki wrote ???? Or that you have a chase on your avatar, gives you the right to speak for everyone ???
  3. APASUS
    APASUS 31 December 2020 16: 36
    +2
    Look what kind of hodgepodge the Indians ordered from us in a place with ships for the Indian Navy. The customer asks to deliver, and why not .. I wonder what guarantees Thales gives, although a strange question of course
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 31 December 2020 16: 42
      -2
      Quote: APASUS
      A pair of "Sukhoi" plunged into stress,

      Well, of course, a real threat to pshekov's security
      Not today tomorrow Belarusians will start a hike for Polish apples
      1. Nikon OConor
        Nikon OConor 31 December 2020 17: 39
        +5
        Then already at the beginning of August 21st. The harvest will arrive in time))
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 31 December 2020 17: 42
          -2
          Quote: Nikon OConor
          Then already at the beginning of August 21st. The harvest will arrive in time))

          Well, it means not today, but tomorrow laughing
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 17: 14
      +9
      Quote: APASUS
      Look what a hodgepodge the Indians ordered from us in a place with ships for the Indian Navy.

      Well, these are traditionally "mixed compote". A little MiGs, a little Rafale, a little Kalashnikov, a little M-16, a little (so far, Karl !!) a Mauser-98. Solyanka team.
      I don’t know if there is such a concept as "Indian aircraft technician", but if there is, then they are probably going crazy from the abundance of our and European aircraft models. Have time to study? Or the main thing is to dance near the fighter?
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 31 December 2020 17: 25
        +1
        Maybe they are going crazy, or maybe vice versa - broad-based specialists who can easily master and service any aircraft of any country.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 17: 38
          +7
          Quote: Pereira
          specialists of a wide profile who are able to master and service any aircraft of any country without any problems

          You, Michael, is this seriously about the Indians? Or am I not sarcasm? laughing
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 31 December 2020 21: 18
            0
            If we talk about Indians in general, of course, sarcasm.
            But I suspect that if you search well (I emphasize - well), then among the one and a half billion you can find no less unique than in any other country.
            Again, let's talk about practice. Who will serve Rafali? Hastily recruited youngsters or specialists with Su-30 experience? That is, people will master two schools of aircraft construction.
            Will our technician be able to service French vehicles?
            1. kit88
              kit88 31 December 2020 21: 50
              +9
              Of course he can. You just need to retrain the technique, pass tests, and go ahead.
            2. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 23: 04
              0
              Quote: Pereira
              Will our technician be able to service French vehicles?

              Our technician, if you give him half a day, will be able to understand any technique - chol in "Sushki", even in "Raphael", even in "F-35". Cho want to pick with a screwdriver and solder with a soldering iron. I know what I'm talking about - I saw it. But the turkey, if I may say so, "technician" - "Zhiguli" - "kopeck" will study for two years and then only the wheels will learn ...
              They will think - and come up with.
              1. wow
                wow 1 January 2021 16: 56
                +2
                I've been one of the characters in this picture for 25 years! I crawled on my knees according to the schemes. And the smoke from the head went thicker than from a cigarette.
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 17: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: yo-mine
                  I've been one of the characters in this picture for 25 years! I crawled on my knees according to the schemes. And the smoke from the head went thicker than from a cigarette.

                  Look at https://fishki.net/1491851-risunki-tehnarja.html - I remember the army, although I myself went to aviation - only in training "with a parachute load" on my own IL-76. But at the airport, of course, he was and saw all this. And they constantly went to the "techies" for alcohol. I still remember that in the 25th "MiG" its 280 liters.
        2. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 31 December 2020 17: 45
          0
          Judging by the very high accident rate of the Indian Air Force, this is not the case.
      2. Nikon OConor
        Nikon OConor 31 December 2020 17: 41
        0
        "Mauser 98" is cool! Damn, it's not worse (more popular) than the AK-47.
        Best regards and Happy New Year!))
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 18: 12
          +3
          Quote: Nikon OConor
          "Mauser 98" is cool!
          The thing is really awesome if applied correctly. I still have a safe from my father, he himself added something - a bonus and a hunting one - you can arm the platoon. The father has some premium 4 barrels. The most beautiful one is "Beretta" gilded from one African "man-eater". But there is no "Mauser-98" - I dream of buying it for the collection. And in Delhi I saw the police - he still serves.
          1. Nikon OConor
            Nikon OConor 31 December 2020 18: 15
            0
            For the sake of completeness, I will advise you Barrett or better Kord (not a machine gun))). Krupnyak he is krupnyak))
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 18: 34
              0
              Quote: Nikon OConor
              For the sake of completeness, I will advise you Barrett or better Kord (not a machine gun))). Krupnyak he is krupnyak))

              Barrett is too big and too specific. I'm afraid that my dear ROVD won't let you through, even if you give me money.
              My favorites from the whole safe - the 92nd "Beretta" of the 83rd year (if you know what I mean - a limited edition was awarded to the fathers) and the good old SKS - bought 10 years ago from an alcoholic for $ 200 with a bucket of cartridges ...
          2. URAL72
            URAL72 31 December 2020 18: 30
            +2
            Mauser is still slightly inferior to Mosinka, especially the sniper one, but I don't like the sight. PSO without alterations will not. 2 pieces were transferred to our RV, but one was quickly squeezed out. Well, okay, two snipers, two SVDs, Mosinka is still not a regular one.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 18: 41
              +1
              Quote: URAL72
              Mauser is still slightly inferior to Mosinka

              It is inferior in accuracy of the battle. And noticeably exceeds it in price. But more reliable, after all, it seems to me, "Mosinka". Whether you shoot, or even row with an oar, or a club in the wilderness - it works always and everywhere. With Mauser, such jokes do not work. Mauser - this is so, for the collection. [Quote Well, okay, two snipers, - two SVD] [/ quote] I didn't really use it myself, so I dabbled. Even for my humble feelings, the thing is awesome. And according to the reviews of professional snipers - no better.
      3. aleks neym_2
        aleks neym_2 31 December 2020 18: 11
        +4
        Why do you think that Hindus are stupid people? It smacks of racism and you shouldn't think of them as an "inferior" race. Technicians are very literate: they even know and understand "Old Church Slavonic"! To humiliate other people is the last thing.
        1. Incomprehensible
          Incomprehensible 31 December 2020 18: 27
          -1
          Not worth paying attention. Cattle here are rolling: to crap the country, its people is welcome here.
        2. Petr Vladimirovich
          Petr Vladimirovich 31 December 2020 18: 32
          0
          Colleagues! The inhabitants of the country India are called INDIANS!
          1. aleks neym_2
            aleks neym_2 31 December 2020 18: 44
            +2
            Hindu, he is Hindu in India too! (although their nationalities, tribes and other a dime a dozen), but the name is one. We are ALL Russian, but how many nationalities?
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 18: 45
            +3
            Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
            Colleagues! The inhabitants of the country India are called INDIANS!

            HINDUS, if cho in Russian ...
            1. Petr Vladimirovich
              Petr Vladimirovich 31 December 2020 19: 08
              +1
              "Today, the inhabitants of India are officially called Indians, and Indians are called those who profess Hinduism."

              Source: https://indiamagazine.ru/kak-pravilno-nazyvat-zhitelej-indii/

              Colleagues with the Coming !!!
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 19: 22
                0
                Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
                Today, the inhabitants of India are officially called Indians, and Indians are called those who practice Hinduism.

                My lieutenant colonel-father, who served all over the world on the orders of the USSR, called them "Indians". And you won't be able to remake me.

                Happy New Year to everyone at VO! Happiness, health (the rest can be bought for money) and "dreams come true"! laughing New Year is knocking ....
                1. Petr Vladimirovich
                  Petr Vladimirovich 31 December 2020 19: 55
                  +2
                  It did not happen all over the world, only in the Democratic Republic of Korea and the NRC.
                  Good luck buddy !!!
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 22: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
                    It did not happen all over the world, only in the Democratic Republic of Korea and the NRC.

                    These are pages of my father's biography. And about 20 more countries - Latin America, Asia, at the end of his career, Europe (not for long, though). I, kid, brought a sombrero - he lied that he bought it either in Sochi or in Yalta on the beach. Years later, I learned that the sombrero is Latin American, natural. From Mexico. By the way, my father was also in Algeria and Egypt - an instructor in "special training". Saboteurs, terrorists or "special forces of special purpose" - call it what you want, we were also not called names like that - he trained me on the enemy ... I don’t know about Korea, I know for sure about Vietnam, Kampuchea and Laos. From Vietnam, my father has a high order on his jacket. And, for some reason, from Mongolia, although he did not serve there.
                2. Maki Avellevich
                  Maki Avellevich 1 January 2021 09: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  Happiness, health (the rest can be bought for money)

                  don't tell
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 15: 50
                    0
                    Quote: Maki Avellevich
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    Happiness, health (the rest can be bought for money)

                    don't tell

                    Where, in which "Auchan" can you buy it? I would take three ...
  4. Pereira
    Pereira 31 December 2020 16: 44
    0
    Zilonka was not interested in anything else on the plane? Pole, what to take from him.
    I wonder if Thales knows that they were kissed in the ass in Poland?
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 31 December 2020 16: 49
    +9
    We need to include a frigate or destroyer "Ivan Susanin" in the fleet, so that he often "strolls" near the tervod polyakhia! Such tough trolling apple empire cannot tolerate in his thoughts! !! lol
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 31 December 2020 17: 38
      -1
      Quote: Thrifty
      We need to add a frigate or destroyer "Ivan Susanin" to the fleet,

      Do you think they know who he is?
      But Alexander Suvorov is still remembered
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 31 December 2020 19: 20
        0
        Lipchanin hi - so the helicopter carrier Admiral Ushakov for setting the brain to the Turks, and the cruiser Count Suvorov must be included in the Russian Black Sea Fleet! hi
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 1 January 2021 03: 11
          0
          Quote: Thrifty
          the cruiser Count Suvorov must be in the Russian Black Sea Fleet!

          If you want the Panovs to observe, then he has nothing to do at the Black Sea Fleet. At the BF, and based in Kaliningrad.
  6. poquello
    poquello 31 December 2020 16: 56
    +1
    whose screws are there?
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 31 December 2020 17: 00
    +1
    Polish observer: Belarusian Air Force strengthened by Russian fighters "with a French accent"

    Where can we do without the experts there .... repair, modernize the BMPshka, no matter that it has Soviet roots? and many others.
    1. cniza
      cniza 31 December 2020 17: 33
      +4
      Here, let them be engaged in their army, and not stick their nose where they should not ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 December 2020 18: 09
        +1
        So the Polish nose is not particularly favored anywhere and aches no longer childishly !!!
        That's why they squeal for every reason, and for no reason either.
        1. cniza
          cniza 31 December 2020 18: 46
          +2
          They also spread smells, it will not be said to the table ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 December 2020 19: 30
            +1
            Ha, when they pinch their nose, they sing in falsetto and so on, the unexpected happens! Bo, bo, however.
  8. garik77
    garik77 31 December 2020 17: 00
    -1
    something doubtful about the French filling.
    Especially after the story with the Mistrals
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 31 December 2020 18: 17
      +2
      Почему нет?
      The electronics of their production are of high class and quality, and our positions on some sensors and control systems have not yet been closed. You have to get where you can.
      It would be generally okay, but they cut us off access to what we still need, wherever they find it .... no one asks manufacturers, they banned us and that's it.
  9. cniza
    cniza 31 December 2020 17: 32
    +1
    The Polish Defense Ministry said earlier that Poland "needs to respond to the strengthening of the military potential of Belarus." At the same time, it is constantly mentioned about the allegedly existing danger for the Suwalki corridor.


    If you do bad things, everything can become a reality ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 31 December 2020 18: 18
      +2
      In fact, the haberdasher cannot not be dirty. He wants to please the cardinal!
      1. cniza
        cniza 31 December 2020 18: 54
        +3
        No matter how he repeats what has happened more than once, they can lose their statehood ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 31 December 2020 19: 31
          0
          We'd love it !!! Their affairs, their territory.
  10. iouris
    iouris 31 December 2020 17: 43
    0
    "French accent" - these machines are not capable of fighting against NATO.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 31 December 2020 18: 20
      +1
      Are you serious?
  11. aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 31 December 2020 17: 54
    -1
    Well, when will these psh ... Polish ... ex ... calm down? Let them remember how they ob ... deceived their comrades-in-arms with 50 turntables
  12. lelik613
    lelik613 31 December 2020 17: 55
    -1
    Poles are worried about the strength of anal fencing. "... but the bacon must be hidden ..."
  13. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 31 December 2020 18: 47
    -1
    The proud pans are jealous, such equipment and airplanes are too tough for them)))
  14. tarakan
    tarakan 31 December 2020 19: 25
    0
    Quote: Pereira
    Maybe they are going crazy, or maybe vice versa - broad-based specialists who can easily master and service any aircraft of any country.

    Damn, STE what kind of logistics is in the frontline?
  15. tarakan
    tarakan 31 December 2020 19: 29
    0
    Quote: Nikon OConor
    "Mauser 98" is cool! Damn, it's not worse (more popular) than the AK-47.
    Best regards and Happy New Year!))

    Everyone is good, but for a left-hander and with a belt stop, such acrobatics. I remember the coach spent a long time solving the rebus when I was doing a recharge at speed laughing
  16. Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 31 December 2020 19: 46
    -1
    And what? I would like to ask Panov. Again, justified ... sya?
  17. Andylw
    Andylw 31 December 2020 21: 30
    -2
    with French accents ALL BUILDING SU-30SM of Russian aerospace forces and naval aviation
    ALL have French (NATO) ILS
    complete failure of import substitution!
    1. Hexenmeister
      Hexenmeister 1 January 2021 10: 19
      0
      What's the difference, what are the indicators? It is much more important which version of the radar is installed! And then along with the French blocks there is also the Indian version of “Barca”, which loses in terms of the Russian one!
    2. Ugochaves
      Ugochaves 1 January 2021 14: 24
      0
      Are you in the "topic"? Share ...
  18. DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 31 December 2020 21: 32
    0
    For example, the Belarus version of the Russian 4 ++ generation fighters has an improved human-machine interface, designed and built by Thales.

    Does this mean that now, instead of a young lady, a tolerant Negro will speak French in Russian?

    Sami Naseri - take it yourself.
  19. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 31 December 2020 22: 16
    0
    Is this a hint that French equipment is better than Russian? Well, what then? I don't know, I'm really interested. And what prevents our people from studying what is on the Belarusian Sushki and doing the same or better?
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 31 December 2020 22: 54
      0
      Quote: TatarinSSSR
      And what prevents our people from studying what is on Belarusian Sushki and doing the same or better?

      Do you mean that Belarusian dryers were made in Belarus?
      But ...
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 1 January 2021 12: 42
        0
        However, I didn't mean that. Read carefully.
        1. Hexenmeister
          Hexenmeister 1 January 2021 13: 06
          0
          And they wrote about this! Why should our specialists study what is the standard equipment of the export version of the Russian fighter delivered to certain countries?
          1. TatarinSSSR
            TatarinSSSR 1 January 2021 14: 49
            0
            I didn’t know that even in Russia, when assembling aircraft for the Belarusian Air Force, French instruments were installed. I think I wrote about it, only briefly. I thought that it was the Belarusians who ordered the modernization from the French. I repeat, read carefully.
            1. Hexenmeister
              Hexenmeister 1 January 2021 14: 55
              +1
              The SU-30SM is a new aircraft, in terms of manufacturing, and not an upgrade ordered by Belarus. And the SM version is essentially a "Russified" MKI, which with a different set of foreign equipment, but with a Russian radar, were supplied to different countries, and all the issues of docking someone else's equipment with their own board have long been resolved. ...
              1. TatarinSSSR
                TatarinSSSR 1 January 2021 15: 26
                0
                Thank you, this is what I wanted to understand
  20. irbis0373
    irbis0373 1 January 2021 05: 50
    +1
    How much indignation! And the reason?
    But if you think about it?
    Russia supplies combat aircraft for export and this is not a disputed fact. And I think that even for Belarus, it will not supply avionics in the same configuration as for its own Air Force.
    And the second - the French equipment, it could be the VBPD of the Polish reporter
    And then there can simply be either a constructive justification or srach
    1. Ugochaves
      Ugochaves 1 January 2021 14: 31
      0
      Yeah, do Poles know more Belarusians? Stirlitz is resting crying
  21. garik77
    garik77 1 January 2021 10: 05
    -1
    Quote: rocket757
    Почему нет?
    The electronics of their production are of high class and quality, and our positions on some sensors and control systems have not yet been closed. You have to get where you can.
    It would be generally okay, but they cut us off access to what we still need, wherever they find it .... no one asks manufacturers, they banned us and that's it.

    Nobody canceled export control. Components in the form of microcircuits can probably be purchased through third countries and left-wing front companies, but assembled avionics is very doubtful. The history of the Mistrals is a guarantee of that. Therefore, I think that the journalists have tried here and wishful thinking.
    Moreover, most likely such information is generally at least for official use and is not available to the media.
  22. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 1 January 2021 12: 47
    0
    Polish observer: Belarusian Air Force strengthened by Russian fighters "with a French accent"
    and they themselves have more than thirty mig-29 with an Israeli accent