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U.S. Air Force continues to build up F-35 fighter force in Alaska

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U.S. Air Force continues to build up F-35 fighter force in Alaska

The US Air Force continues to build up its Arctic force by deploying fifth-generation F-35 fighters in Alaska. According to the press service of the Air Force, on December 16, five more fighters arrived at Eielson airbase.


To date, the number of fifth-generation F-35 fighters at the air base has reached 20 units. A total of 54 F-35 fighters are expected to be deployed, by the end of 2021, the 336th and 335th squadrons, based at Eielson airbase, should receive all aircraft. Thus, each squadron will have 27 fighters.

The last five planes arrived on Wednesday. The total number reached 20 35A Lightning II fighters. We continue to build up our roster. By the end of 2021, we will have all 54 fighters at the base

- said a spokesman for the airbase Kayleigh Dubois, adding that the next group of F-35s will arrive in Alaska in April 2021.

Eielson Air Force Base is located in Fairbanks. Currently, the base is armed with F-16 fighters, A-10 attack aircraft and KS-135 tankers, and the F-35 is being added to them. At Elmendorf-Richardson Air Force Base, home to the headquarters of the United States Armed Forces Command in Alaska (ALCOM), 40 fifth-generation F-22 Raptor fighters are deployed.

The airbase is located about 1200 km from the Russian border in the Far East. The Air Force command explains the deployment of the F-35 in Alaska by the strengthening of Russia's positions in the Arctic region and protection from "Russian bombers". In the absence of icebreakers in control of the Arctic territory, the United States relies on the superiority of its aviation in the air.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 19 December 2020 16: 01
    -6
    To date, the number of fifth-generation F-35 fighters at the airbase has reached 20 units. In total, it is planned to deploy 54 F-35 fighters,
    I have no doubt that our modernized Kamchatka fighter-interceptors MiG-31BM. they can be resisted, but will they have enough ammunition?
    1. iouris
      iouris 19 December 2020 16: 03
      -10%
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Our 4 MIGs can resist them, but will the ammunition load be enough for them?

      The problem is different: where are we going to bury them?
      1. pipetro
        pipetro 19 December 2020 16: 05
        +3
        Why did you edit someone else's quote?
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 19 December 2020 16: 22
          -1
          Quote: pipetro
          Why did you edit someone else's quote?

          No, I corrected mine, can I? hi
          1. Alexey Sommer
            Alexey Sommer 19 December 2020 18: 52
            -1
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            No, I corrected mine, can I?

            No.
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 19 December 2020 16: 05
        0
        Quote: iouris
        The problem is different: where are we going to bury them?

        Like Quiet, we have not yet drained. request
      3. zyablik.olga
        zyablik.olga 19 December 2020 16: 17
        +13
        Quote: iouris
        The problem is different: where are we going to bury them?

        Will you personally bury it? Maybe you shouldn't think a lot before making such statements? Only in Alaska the Americans have about the same number of fighters as we have in the entire Far East. Khabarovsk and Primorye Territories are within the reach of American combat aircraft deployed in Japan and South Korea. And for some reason I am sure that in the event of a war, quite numerous and modern Japanese and South Korean air forces will act on the US side.
        1. Cron
          Cron 19 December 2020 16: 28
          0
          Quote: zyablik.olga
          And for some reason I am not sure that in the event of a war, quite numerous and modern Japanese and South Korean air forces will act on the US side.

          In case of war, you should only be sure that you will have time to get to the nearest shelter. Everything else is just your fantasy
        2. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 19 December 2020 16: 52
          +10
          Good evening Olga. I am also sick of hating, but in the event of a WAR, we (the majority of the civilian population already) will have completely different thoughts and problems than someone else's funeral. And I dare to assure you that the South Koreans in this dump will also have no time for us .Preparing modern aircraft to take off in time is not like raising the IL-2 or B-17. the same rake, plus the PRC. So that everything starts against everyone.
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 19 December 2020 21: 01
          +4
          Quote: zyablik.olga
          And for some reason I am sure that in the event of a war, a fairly large and modern Japanese and South Korean air force will act on the US side.

          And I'm sure that they will try to just sit out, of course they will drag the shells to the Americans and give their territory, but they will not climb into battle. It's just suicide for these countries.
        4. YOUR
          YOUR 20 December 2020 04: 27
          +4
          Shapkozakidatelstvo some rolls over. Here on the resource a couple of days ago there was an article comparing their Air Force and ours. In terms of personnel, we are tenfold behind them over 300 in the Air Force, with us in the region of 000 a little more. These 30 do not include naval and national guard aviation. Those. in terms of numerical strength, we lose to them more than 300000 (!) times.
          I won't talk about the quality of the aircraft, but when a dozen missiles are launched one at a time from different directions, the outcome is decided.
          Conclusion: without the Strategic Missile Forces, it will be very, very difficult to resist them
        5. Adimius38
          Adimius38 20 December 2020 07: 45
          +2
          a woman is smarter than all of the above-mentioned lovers to tear the vest on themselves.
          1. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A 20 December 2020 20: 26
            +2
            Quote: Adimius38
            a woman is smarter than all of the above-mentioned lovers to tear the vest on themselves.

            Olga is the wife of Sergey Linnik (aka Bongo) - she knows about the Air Force an order of magnitude more than all the chapcomers from the alternative universe and the Operators combined ...
      4. Kuz
        Kuz 19 December 2020 17: 01
        +24
        They can place on their territory wherever they want. The main thing is that they do not meddle with others.
    2. figwam
      figwam 19 December 2020 16: 19
      -2
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      fighter-interceptors MiG-31BM. they can be resisted, but will they have enough ammunition?

      If necessary, there is also a Su-35 nearby, plus ground-based air defense.
      1. Toucan
        Toucan 19 December 2020 16: 37
        +7
        Quote: figvam
        If necessary, there is also a Su-35 nearby, plus ground-based air defense.

        Do I understand correctly, you want to say that Su-35S are permanently based in Vilyuchinsk? And "not far" is where? Can you tell me from which IAP? And please remind me how many MiG-31s ​​are flying in Kamchatka?
        1. figwam
          figwam 19 December 2020 16: 54
          -6
          Quote: Tucan
          Do I understand correctly, you want to say that Su-35S are permanently based in Vilyuchinsk?

          No, not right.
          Quote: Tucan
          And "not far" is where?

          This is the Central Corner.
          Quote: Tucan
          And please remind me how many MiG-31s ​​are flying in Kamchatka?

          The squadron is only recovering from 2019, the threat will grow, we will have a new separate regiment.
          1. Vladimir247
            Vladimir247 20 December 2020 00: 34
            +5
            There will be a new ... regiment
            -------
            I have noticed long ago that only the future tense is used by the people of note.
            laughing
            And then we will have, and this will be ... and if something is suddenly there, then where no one knows how much ... laughing laughing
            1. figwam
              figwam 20 December 2020 09: 40
              -5
              Quote: Vladimir247
              I have noticed long ago that only the future tense is used by the people of note.

              Yes, and for such people everything is already behind, it remains only to wrap up in a sheet and crawl to the cemetery.
          2. Toucan
            Toucan 20 December 2020 03: 48
            +4
            This is the Central Corner.
            Maybe Dzemgi in Komsomolsk-on-Amur? But can you imagine the distance from Elizovo to Komsomolsk? In addition, for the entire center and south of the Far East, we have only two Fighter Regiments: 22nd and 23rd IAP, which must control an area of ​​several Frances.
            The squadron is only recovering from 2019, the threat will grow, we will have a new separate regiment.

            The number of MiG-31s ​​in Kamchatka has remained stable for 5 years. The decommissioned interceptors can hardly be replaced with refurbished ones. There will be no new regiment for the MiG-31 for sure. Perhaps it will be possible to create a mixed with the Su-35S as in the 22nd IAP.
            1. figwam
              figwam 20 December 2020 09: 51
              -4
              Quote: Tucan
              But can you imagine the distance from Elizovo to Komsomolsk?

              For reinforcement, aircraft are simply relocated to the desired airfield, this has always been done.
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 20 December 2020 11: 05
                +4
                Quote: figvam
                For reinforcement, aircraft are simply relocated to the desired airfield, this has always been done.

                Exposing your area of ​​responsibility. God forbid we have 100 fighters for the entire Far Eastern Federal District. As for the airfields suitable for basing fighters, do you know how many are left in the Russian Far East?
                1. figwam
                  figwam 20 December 2020 11: 55
                  -3
                  Quote: Bongo
                  As for airfields suitable for basing fighters, do you know how many are left in the Russian Far East?

                  The Americans have 2-3 military airfields in Alaska 1000 km from our borders, and then they will be restored and modernized for several more years, I see no reason for unrest.
                  1. Bongo
                    Bongo 20 December 2020 12: 18
                    +5
                    Quote: figvam
                    The Americans have 2-3 military airfields in Alaska 1000 km from our borders, and then they will be restored and modernized for several more years, I see no reason for unrest.

                    Do you understand the difference between an airfield where combat aircraft can be based and an airbase? Apparently not. No.
                    In Alaska, there are really 2 air bases on which fighters are constantly based. But there are much more suitable runways. Against our forces in the northeast is the 11th US Air Force, whose aircraft is mainly deployed in Alaska. In terms of numbers, it roughly corresponds to our entire fighter fleet in the Far East. The main potential enemy of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Pacific-Asian region is considered to be the US Air Force Command in the Pacific Air Force, headquartered at Hikkam airbase, Hawaii. Subordinate to the Pacific Command are the 5th (Japan), 7th (Republic of Korea), 11th (Alaska) and 13th (Hawaii) air armies. In total, there are approximately 270 American F-35A, F-16C / D and F-15C / D fighters at Japanese and South Korean air bases. In addition, the Yokosuka naval base is a permanent forward base for US aircraft carriers. Since 2008, there has been a Nimitz-class nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, George Washington. He was recently replaced on duty in Japan by the aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan, on which the 5th Aircraft Carrier Wing is based. It has three F / A-18E / F Super Hornet fighter-assault squadrons.
                    If we take into account the Air Forces of Japan and South Korea, then the superiority over the Russian Aerospace Forces in the region turns out to be fourfold.
                    1. figwam
                      figwam 20 December 2020 14: 13
                      -5
                      Quote: Bongo
                      Do you understand the difference between an airfield where combat aircraft can be based and an airbase? Apparently not.

                      It's good that you understand)
                      The article was about twenty F-35s based in Alaska, 1000 km from our border, and from our bases for 1500-2000 km, they simply cannot physically reach us and I repeat, with an increase in the number of enemy aircraft, I will relocate to the Far East our aircraft, including the new Su-35, as you may have already noticed, the first MiG-31s ​​flew to Anadyr, but you also fastened other countries here, Korea, Japan, aircraft carriers. In this case, there are missiles that will deter the unreasonable.
                      And I am not against a large number of our airfields and aircraft, the main thing here is not to overstrain and react in accordance with the situation.
              2. SovAr238A
                SovAr238A 20 December 2020 20: 33
                +2
                Quote: figvam
                Quote: Tucan
                But can you imagine the distance from Elizovo to Komsomolsk?

                For reinforcement, aircraft are simply relocated to the desired airfield, this has always been done.


                Uh-huh.
                Only now, a modern aircraft needs several tens of hours of expenses to prepare for departure.
                It is necessary not only to relocate the planes, but also hundreds of BAO people, providing a bunch of equipment. Ammunition also needs to be relocated.
                Repair shops.
                The fuel is the same.
                Or is it all taken out of thin air?
                It was in the 40-50s - they took and transferred the squadron to a new field.
                The main thing is that it would not be plowed ...

                And now everything is a thousand times more complicated.
        2. Sergey39
          Sergey39 19 December 2020 17: 02
          0
          Quote: Tucan
          how many MiG-31s ​​flying in Kamchatka?

          Yesterday there was news: "At the airfields of Chukotka, fighter-interceptors MiG-31 took over on duty."
          1. next322
            next322 19 December 2020 18: 57
            +7
            in Anadyr there is one flight of MiG-31 !!!! and this is already 3 aircraft ... in Kamchatka, the squadron of MiG-31 ... not a lot
            1. Sergey39
              Sergey39 19 December 2020 19: 02
              -8
              Quote: next322
              not much

              There is also air defense. A MIG-31 for attacking airfields.
              1. Vitaly Pogrebnyak
                Vitaly Pogrebnyak 19 December 2020 19: 47
                +2
                Since when? Do you know what this plane is for?
                1. Sergey39
                  Sergey39 19 December 2020 22: 11
                  -6
                  I know. "Daggers" are quite suitable for striking airfields.
                  1. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
                    Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 20 December 2020 18: 05
                    +3
                    You don't have a single Dagger on the Far East, wipe yourself off.
            2. iouris
              iouris 19 December 2020 20: 22
              +1
              This is some kind of stripped-down link. There are two "pairs" in the link.
          2. Toucan
            Toucan 20 December 2020 03: 50
            +4
            This is a jump airfield, they are unlikely to be permanently based there. Besides, three fighters are not even funny.
        3. Kuz
          Kuz 19 December 2020 17: 03
          +18
          Quote: Tucan
          how many MiG-31s ​​flying in Kamchatka?

          This is a military secret.
          1. Toucan
            Toucan 20 December 2020 03: 52
            +2
            This is a military secret.

            This is not a secret, our "partners" are well aware of this.
        4. jonht
          jonht 20 December 2020 00: 16
          +4
          Dear, Vilyuchinsk is a submarine base, and aviation is in Yelizovo, at a dual-purpose airfield, now it seems like another airfield will begin to be restored, but definitely not in Vilyuchensk.
          1. Toucan
            Toucan 20 December 2020 03: 53
            +2
            Dear, Vilyuchinsk is a submarine base, and aviation is in Elizovo, at a dual-purpose airfield
            yes
            You are absolutely right, I think one thing, I write another on the machine.
            1. jonht
              jonht 20 December 2020 08: 44
              +3
              It happens laughing , but it's better to fix it, there are many who may not know what's what. hi
    3. Doccor18
      Doccor18 19 December 2020 16: 41
      +6
      Alaska has always been home to the most advanced US fighters. And the F22 was there, and now the F35 will be added to them. Americans have always closely followed the Russian East.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 19 December 2020 18: 23
        -1
        Once they followed the Soviet East.
        Today - for China.
        All 5th generation fighters are there against him.
        Both F-22 and F-35.
        Closer to China, they are afraid to deploy them, so as not to be covered in the first
        minutes of conflict.
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 19 December 2020 23: 12
          +2
          Today - for China.
          All 5th generation fighters are there against him.

          As it is doubtful, from Fairbanks to the border of China almost 5 thousand. km., only one way to fly two refueling needs
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 19 December 2020 23: 17
            +1
            There will be a jump to Japan, to the American base.
            F-22 is also kept in Alaska.
            And at one time they were close to China.
            Then they realized that it was risky.
        2. Leon68
          Leon68 21 December 2020 21: 14
          0
          In fact, the Merikatos F-22s have been based in Hawaii for a long time. And this is much closer to Alaska to the Chinese. So that
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Closer to China, they are afraid to deploy them, so as not to be covered in the first
          minutes of conflict.

          there is nonsense
    4. Vitaly Pogrebnyak
      Vitaly Pogrebnyak 19 December 2020 19: 39
      -2
      The MiG-31 was originally conceived as an interceptor for cruise missiles, there is no need to pull an owl on the globe, we need the SU-57 and as soon as possible.
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 20 December 2020 00: 14
        +5
        Vitaly Pogrebnyak
        Su 57.
        -------
        Needed. But there are only 7 of them. For the year they plan to put another one in the troops.
        And we also need crews, of which the troops are understaffed, in 2000 people.
        And we also need new runways, their anti-aircraft cover, and so on and so on.
        This is not discussed here, not the level of the forum, but it is necessary to start sometime.
        It is very good that you raised this problem. It seems that the bulk of people simply do not realize that the current "effective managers" are simply not able to produce anything in sufficient quantities. They basically don't know how to do it. Well, they've never done this in their life, and then suddenly here you are ... you need ...
        This is a difference, and a big one, or a dozen, or even another, to rivet, or organize more or less mass production.
        There immediately emerges a set of questions about which the "managers" are not even aware. Starting from the personnel, the same adjusters of CNC machines, machining centers, their qualifications, their number in the end. None of this is in sight.
        In short, we have a bunch of problems in the military-industrial complex. We must start with him. And see where these problems are growing ... laughing
        Basically, we all know that fish rots from the head ... bully
    5. Vladimir247
      Vladimir247 19 December 2020 23: 58
      +2
      And the most important question is how many MiGs do we have there? Americans Siavat 54, and how much are we?
  2. Russobel
    Russobel 19 December 2020 16: 18
    +4
    And Russia is building up its air defense forces in the Far East and the Kuril Islands
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 19 December 2020 16: 52
      +4
      Yes. And this is called an "arms race".
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 19 December 2020 22: 26
        0
        Yes, they want to pull into the race just by air, since they are behind in rockets. But they realized that Russia will not fall for this, will focus on missiles, and consistently bring the aircraft fleet and carriers in general to the required volume. Fuck these F35s when they are covered by a hundred missiles at the air base.))
        1. Vladimir247
          Vladimir247 20 December 2020 00: 24
          0
          Hundred rockets ...
          --------
          Do we have this hundred missiles? And what, and there is someone to give the order? Chio is a lot of dickheads ... laughing
          After all, they should be the first to hit ... there is no one to ask even for their downed helicopter, but here they should hit the USA ... why were you smoking there, such a fierce one? laughing
          1. XXXIII
            XXXIII 20 December 2020 01: 14
            0
            Quote: Vladimir247
            Do we have this hundred missiles?

            And who knows this here?))
            Quote: Vladimir247
            After all, they must hit first ...

            Definitely as soon as possible.
            Quote: Vladimir247
            there is no one to ask even for his downed helicopter

            This is an isolated incident, not a mass phenomenon. They shoot down, knock down, not only Russian cars.
            1. Vladimir247
              Vladimir247 20 December 2020 02: 15
              -1
              And who knows this here?
              ----------
              Well, that's for sure for you, right ... laughing
              So share your "knowledge" ...


              As soon as possible ...
              ------ ,,
              And Raikin is not a relative to you ... about turning on the fool?

              Single case..
              -------
              Oh really ? Where did you learn to lie so blatantly? Is it really in the training manual? And the plane shot down by the Turks? And the ambassador killed by the Turks? Which, clearly not an airplane, but a precedent for a full blow to Ankara and Istanbul at least?
              laughing laughing laughing negative
              1. XXXIII
                XXXIII 20 December 2020 09: 58
                0
                Quote: Vladimir247
                Well, that's for sure for you, right ...
                So share your "knowledge" ...

                No need to distort the meaning, do not understand and do not think. Or maybe you can list the number of slides? wassat
                Quote: Vladimir247
                And the ambassador killed by the Turks?

                Somewhere you went wrong, the ambassador is not a plane and he was not shot down with a rocket. wassat Does the manual work ?! laughing In general, do not mow under a sick recruit, there will be a target, there will be a rocket for it. fellow
                1. Vladimir247
                  Vladimir247 20 December 2020 10: 38
                  -1
                  The ambassador is definitely not a plane. Can you read, grandpa? That's what it was written to you. For the murder of ambassadors, normal countries and governments, bend rivals in full, up to territorial compensation.
                  It is time.
                  And what about the downed plane? Srekhal, it turns out, dudushko ..? laughing
                  1. XXXIII
                    XXXIII 20 December 2020 11: 33
                    0
                    How many American ambassadors and military personnel have been killed in Iraq? Iraq bent? Looks like no.
        2. BABAY22
          BABAY22 20 December 2020 00: 34
          +10
          The kneading will begin - the base will definitely be covered. But the planes will no longer be there.
          According to all the rules adopted in our country, on alarm, planes descend to dispersal aerodromes.
          I do not think that their generals are more stupid than ours, and will sit and wait for them to arrive from above.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 20 December 2020 10: 41
            -1
            BABAY22, I have a question. Before the alarm are the planes filled up and ready to take off? And the second question. How long does it take to get the plane ready for departure? Now is not the middle of the twentieth century. This is not the MiG-5-7, not the IL-2, which can be prepared for departure in minutes. If before the Second World War we could not disperse aviation, then what can we say now?
  3. knn54
    knn54 19 December 2020 16: 18
    +1
    -Difficult ice conditions;
    - rather extended communications;
    -Difficult logistics.
    Ie aviation is ahead of everyone here.
  4. K-612-O
    K-612-O 19 December 2020 16: 22
    -6
    The range of the Kh-101/102 is 4,5k km, even the Kh-55 is 2,5k, airfields will be destroyed even before these aircraft take off, without entering the air defense zone. In general, let the F-35 first be adopted, the F-22 is the enemy more dangerous
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 19 December 2020 16: 43
      +5
      In general, let the F-35 first enter service.


      So there are 54 of them only in Alaska. In the combat unit. Already accepted several years ago.
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 19 December 2020 16: 55
        +1
        Quote: Choi
        Already accepted several years ago.

        Conditionally accepted.
      2. K-612-O
        K-612-O 19 December 2020 16: 57
        -7
        No, not accepted. Due to the lack of combat readiness. The software rework should end only at the age of 21 and the question is whether it will finally work as the military requires, and it is not known about the oxygen system when the design blunder will be solved, again the inability to fly for a long time at supersonic. Therefore, the delivery to the troops with the subsequent modernization of the delivered aircraft was approved, but they are not in service and cannot be used in combat operations, with the exception of test ones.
        It is in our combat units that only fully used production aircraft go, for amers it happens that way, the budget must be inflated and cut.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 19 December 2020 18: 27
          +1
          Americans have the concepts of "initial" and "full" combat readiness.
          F-35 - in the initial. This status allows you to form combat
          squadrons and used in hostilities.
          In the past, Americans have had aircraft types that have successfully fought a couple of wars.
          and were written off after 20-30 years of service, and did not receive the status of full combat
          readiness. smile
    2. XXXIII
      XXXIII 19 December 2020 22: 38
      -3
      That's right, even if they bet 1000, who will let them take off. They will fly two by two as usual to patrol their skies.
    3. Adimius38
      Adimius38 20 December 2020 07: 52
      -1
      negative F-35s have already been riveted so much that it will be enough to re-equip all fighter regiments of Russia laughing and this is much faster than 1-2 SU-57 per year laughing laughing
  5. migsu
    migsu 19 December 2020 16: 37
    0
    It's like placing carts in a train without horses and without a fourth wheel in each cart ... and say: "Let's go!"
  6. Tsoy
    Tsoy 19 December 2020 16: 40
    +2
    Interestingly, the arrived and the rest of the "Alaskan" F-35s differ from other serial machines. The rubber on the chassis is different so as not to crack from the anti-icing coating of the strip. The Danes have the same. (Not a fact, but they wrote about it)
  7. orcinus
    orcinus 19 December 2020 16: 47
    +5
    Especially for the "uracals" - on the next branch there is news about the entry, or rather the return after modernization, one moment-31) something there, in the comments, I do not see a "festival". And then there are 5 new planes, but wow! Such news should be analyzed, and not promised to knock everyone off the couch in batches.
    1. Whirlwind
      Whirlwind 19 December 2020 17: 00
      -6
      Yes, calm down, such new ... worse than our "old" ...
      The more ... the more, the better for us.
      1. orcinus
        orcinus 19 December 2020 17: 08
        -1
        Who is "us"? And "poke" will be sand in the sandbox
      2. orcinus
        orcinus 19 December 2020 17: 08
        -1
        Who is "us"? And "poke" you will be sand with a duck in the sandbox
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 19 December 2020 17: 20
    0
    Let them take care of the Faberge, otherwise they will freeze, it will not be before the war. lol
  9. Ros 56
    Ros 56 19 December 2020 17: 25
    +2
    Does anyone know how long it takes to prepare for the F-35 flight?
  10. Outsider
    Outsider 19 December 2020 18: 02
    -3
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    To date, the number of fifth-generation F-35 fighters at the airbase has reached 20 units. In total, it is planned to deploy 54 F-35 fighters,
    I have no doubt that our modernized Kamchatka fighter-interceptors MiG-31BM. they can be resisted, but will they have enough ammunition?

    - The poor fellows do not understand how close the F-35 can get to the MiG-31 before he sees it. In a duel situation with the F-35, the MiG-31 is doomed to defeat - by 146%. But you will never believe it and you will never understand it ...
    1. dauria
      dauria 19 December 2020 21: 35
      +7
      - The poor fellows do not understand how close the F-35 can get to the MiG-31 before he sees it.


      By the detection range of the F-15 (300 km), divided by the fourth root of 10. Total - 168 km with a probability of PO 0, 7.
      At the same time, the F-35 should be without external suspensions, and therefore without missiles with a range of more than 100 km. Pleasant flight .
      Oh yes . I almost forgot . Be sure to turn on the radar on the F-35, dear duelist. We must somehow aim at the defenseless MIG.
      1. Outsider
        Outsider 20 December 2020 00: 14
        -1
        - The APG-81 radar of the F-35 aircraft sees a target with RCS = 1 m² at D = 160 km in normal mode and at D = 135 km in LPI mode. RCS of the MiG-31 aircraft from the front hemisphere> 25 m35, it will be detected by the F-160 at D = 25 * √√ (1: XNUMX) =358 km or D = 135 * √√ (25: 1) =302 km.
        The MiG-31 sees a target with an RCS = 19 m² at D = 200 km, an F-35 aircraft with RCS = 0.0001 m² will be seen at D = 200 / √√ (19: 0.0001) =9.6 km.

        1. dauria
          dauria 20 December 2020 00: 49
          +5
          aircraft F-35 with RCS = 0.0001 mXNUMX


          laughing Bravo. From what ceiling is such an amazing figure? Yes, a wet crow has an EPR of 0, 1, if it spreads its wings and opens its beak. I understand everything ... Advertising is the engine of trade. But not to the same extent.
          Yes, by the way, your MiG -31 is blind. Its locator is much stronger.
          Even the old one from the early 80s. By the way, the world's first phased array on a fighter. And re-read the textbook of Voskresensky, sober up.
    2. Dread
      Dread 20 December 2020 00: 53
      +1
      Outsider - complexes come out.
      The F-35 has absolutely no chance against the Su-35, the R-37M missile is waiting for it.
      There is no need to write absurdities about the LPI mode - further than 70 km the F-35 does not "see" the target in this mode - the power of the probing pulses is too small. And you don't have to write stories from Lockheed-Martin commercials. Your drawings are not correct.
      1. Outsider
        Outsider 20 December 2020 01: 19
        -2
        - I understand that those present prefer the billboards of Uryupinsk, but this is an ostrich position, knowingly by orders of magnitude assess the capabilities of a potential enemy in the direction of decreasing. Talk to the Armenian army, they will arm you with the correct assessment method ...
        Is it really not a pity for the pilots who, with an open visor on the MiG-31, rush to 2.83M towards the F-35 - and get under the visor what they could not even dream of ?!
  11. Alexfly
    Alexfly 19 December 2020 18: 30
    -4
    Isn't this a direct threat to the Russian Federation, the concentration of offensive weapons on the borders of our vast Fatherland ?? Isn't it worth it to put the Iskander's calculations there, or the latter for the possible neglect of the incoming threats ??
    1. My doctor
      My doctor 19 December 2020 23: 19
      +5
      Quote: AlexFly
      Isn't this a direct threat to the Russian Federation, the concentration of offensive weapons on the borders of our vast Fatherland ?? Isn't it worth it to put the Iskander's calculations there, or the latter for the possible neglect of the incoming threats ??

      What not smart person gave you a plus.
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 20 December 2020 02: 20
        -1
        Well, that is, you assert and take responsibility that there is no threat?
        1. My doctor
          My doctor 20 December 2020 09: 38
          0
          Quote: Vladimir247
          Well, that is, you assert and take responsibility that there is no threat?

          No, I claim that the first sentence
          Quote: AlexFly
          Isn't this a direct threat to the Russian Federation, the concentration of offensive weapons on the borders of our vast Fatherland ??

          built with a mockery, compiled from slogans.
          second
          Quote: AlexFly
          Isn't it worth it to put the Iskander's calculations there, or the latter for the possible neglect of the incoming threats ??

          As if the Iskanders are idle and need to be attached to the border. And how to understand the word reading "or this", maybe more correctly "or other complexes"? But my chair smokes the most from the two question marks at the end of sentences.
          1. Alexfly
            Alexfly 20 December 2020 11: 39
            0
            You are right, a mistake, it was necessary to write ONE, since the plural form does not combine .. Ah um Verry Sorry ...)))
        2. My doctor
          My doctor 20 December 2020 10: 17
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir247
          Well, that is, you assert and take responsibility that there is no threat?

          NO. I argue that the text is mockingly compiled from slogans, and the inserted words are hurting the eyes. For example
          Quote: AlexFly
          Isn't it worth it to put the Iskander's calculations there, or the latter for the possible neglect of the incoming threats ??

          Perhaps instead of "Isn't it worth it" it was necessary "Is it worth it and Нam "or remove the union" and "then -" Isn't it worth it "? And why" or this "? Perhaps it was necessary" or calculations other complexes "? And how do you" for a possible unbelief "? Maybe it was necessary" for perhapsСти leveling "? What is wrong with the" incoming threats "you can figure it out for yourself. But the main reason why my chair is smoking is the two question marks at the end of the sentence.
          As a result, it turns out that the Iskander complexes are lying somewhere idle and it is only necessary to install them to protect "our vast Fatherland."
          1. Vladimir247
            Vladimir247 20 December 2020 10: 34
            0
            But in essence? It turns out some nagging about style, and then sucked, it is not clear where.
          2. Alexfly
            Alexfly 20 December 2020 11: 36
            0
            Dima, you understood correctly, go ahead, saw the weight, it is still golden ...
            1. My doctor
              My doctor 20 December 2020 11: 45
              0
              Quote: AlexFly
              Dima, you understood correctly, go ahead, saw the weight, it is still golden ...

              the comment did not appear immediately, I had to write the same thing twice
        3. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 20 December 2020 20: 40
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir247
          Well, that is, you assert and take responsibility that there is no threat?


          And what will Iskander help you with in Chukotka?

          Well, just answer.
  12. opuonmed
    opuonmed 19 December 2020 18: 49
    -3
    shock grouping is strengthened, which means they will strike at the Kuriles! interesting God forbid this will be what the Russian Federation will do? like sauces liberated by the Japanese smoked
    1. Vladimir247
      Vladimir247 20 December 2020 02: 21
      -3
      Well what to do? Express concern ... maybe Masha Zazarova will dance a new dance ... laughing
  13. Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer 19 December 2020 18: 55
    -1
    Top var site is lost.
    Here are no longer Russian masters.
    1. Vladimir247
      Vladimir247 20 December 2020 02: 26
      -1
      A. Sommer
      --------
      Yes, let them be in charge. They have a feather in them, a fair breeze ... laughing
      They start banning - the site will crash in traffic. The project will close, and ... and sucking a paw is not hot for anyone, right? laughing
      So, let yourself draw the ranks of generals ... laughing
  14. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 19 December 2020 19: 54
    +1
    There is no place for penguins in the north, let them be based in Antarctica laughing
  15. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 19 December 2020 20: 25
    0
    Quote: Tucan
    Quote: figvam
    If necessary, there is also a Su-35 nearby, plus ground-based air defense.

    Do I understand correctly, you want to say that Su-35S are permanently based in Vilyuchinsk? And "not far" is where? Can you tell me from which IAP? And please remind me how many MiG-31s ​​are flying in Kamchatka?

    Actually, the MiG-31 is not for intercepting pregnant penguins, and secondly, there is a 3-level air defense system. And in the event of a serious mess of the Russian Federation vs FSA, all these toys will be needed as a dead poultice. The use of aircraft by the FSA is realistic only against the Papuans, who do not have a normal air defense, as all the FSA's interventions of the last 30 years show. wassat
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 20 December 2020 20: 43
      +2
      Quote: Vlad5307
      Quote: Tucan
      Quote: figvam
      If necessary, there is also a Su-35 nearby, plus ground-based air defense.

      Do I understand correctly, you want to say that Su-35S are permanently based in Vilyuchinsk? And "not far" is where? Can you tell me from which IAP? And please remind me how many MiG-31s ​​are flying in Kamchatka?

      Actually, the MiG-31 is not for intercepting pregnant penguins, and secondly, there is a 3-level air defense system. And in the event of a serious mess of the Russian Federation vs FSA, all these toys will be needed as a dead poultice. The use of aircraft by the FSA is realistic only against the Papuans, who do not have a normal air defense, as all the FSA's interventions of the last 30 years show. wassat


      Show us normal air defense in the Far East and the Arctic ...
      Preferably on the map.
      with zones of suppression of enemy aircraft.

      Search for yourself?
      Well, I'm just saying that when a person wants to figure it out, he looks for information and analyzes it.
      Himself.
      And then, having figured it out, he already writes.

      You write - according to the manuals, not understanding a bit.
  16. Berg berg
    Berg berg 19 December 2020 20: 30
    -2
    Alaska is Russian territory and we categorically demand that America withdraw all its military formations from there!
  17. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 19 December 2020 20: 49
    -4
    It is necessary to pull up the Zircons from the YaBCH there. So that during "X" they immediately slam them ...
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 20 December 2020 20: 44
      +2
      Quote: Dzafdet
      It is necessary to pull up the Zircons from the YaBCH there. So that during "X" they immediately slam them ...

      Will you pull on yourself?
  18. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 19 December 2020 20: 51
    -2
    Quote: Outsider
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    To date, the number of fifth-generation F-35 fighters at the airbase has reached 20 units. In total, it is planned to deploy 54 F-35 fighters,
    I have no doubt that our modernized Kamchatka fighter-interceptors MiG-31BM. they can be resisted, but will they have enough ammunition?

    - The poor fellows do not understand how close the F-35 can get to the MiG-31 before he sees it. In a duel situation with the F-35, the MiG-31 is doomed to defeat - by 146%. But you will never believe it and you will never understand it ...



    Yes Yes. He's invisible and invulnerable. only the Syrians did not know this and soaked an Israeli penguin from the C-200 ...
  19. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 19 December 2020 20: 52
    0
    Quote: Ros 56
    Does anyone know how long it takes to prepare for the F-35 flight?


    20 hours ... Inspection, coating ... Tests ...
  20. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 19 December 2020 20: 55
    -5
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Americans have the concepts of "initial" and "full" combat readiness.
    F-35 - in the initial. This status allows you to form combat
    squadrons and used in hostilities.
    In the past, Americans have had aircraft types that have successfully fought a couple of wars.
    and were written off after 20-30 years of service, and did not receive the status of full combat
    readiness. smile

    Well, then, in Israel, do not relax the rolls. We will destroy you together with the USA ...
    1. Outsider
      Outsider 20 December 2020 00: 21
      +2
      - If you are not eaten by the Chinese before. Most likely it will. And there is no one to protect you ... Erdogan will not intercede for you? wink lol
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 20 December 2020 05: 20
        +1
        Chinese? Why would the guests come in large numbers?
    2. XXXIII
      XXXIII 20 December 2020 01: 33
      0
      Quote: Dzafdet
      Well, then, in Israel, do not relax the rolls. We will destroy you together with the USA ...

      Nafig need, hara-kiri themselves will do. laughing
    3. Iris
      Iris 20 December 2020 10: 51
      +3
      .. We will destroy you together with the USA ...


      "Who are "we ? The first Urapatriotnaya Sofa?
      I suggest that you personally focus on a more relevant "combat" task - behave more modestly on the forum.
    4. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 20 December 2020 20: 45
      +2
      Quote: Dzafdet
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Americans have the concepts of "initial" and "full" combat readiness.
      F-35 - in the initial. This status allows you to form combat
      squadrons and used in hostilities.
      In the past, Americans have had aircraft types that have successfully fought a couple of wars.
      and were written off after 20-30 years of service, and did not receive the status of full combat
      readiness. smile

      Well, then, in Israel, do not relax the rolls. We will destroy you together with the USA ...

      I understand that you are a general or a marshal in the first Civilization?
  21. Botanologist
    Botanologist 19 December 2020 22: 39
    +1
    Modern war is not an air battle of 100500 aircraft in a sphere vacuum. Obviously, we cannot build 1 our own aircraft for 1 US aircraft. Because there is China, Japan, Korea, and NATO. They will always and everything will have more if we do not want to repeat the fate of the USSR. We'll have to learn how to hit the thinnest place and so that their defense / attack system begins to crumble. What are we talking about that there will be 54 penguins and 20 raptors? It is better to think about what will happen to their bases and airfields after the impact of the Kh-55 and Calibers from 20385 and Karakurt. And what kind of outfit of forces and means we need for this. And who will be able to maintain the required level of KOH at a critical time. And much more. I personally do not presume to argue what will happen in the beginning - Calibers or UAVs will fly, or the landing force will climb ashore, or we will squeeze the raptors from our coast by air defense forces. And a thousand more or ...
  22. Outsider
    Outsider 20 December 2020 00: 19
    +1
    Quote: Berg Berg
    Alaska is Russian territory and we categorically demand that America withdraw all its military formations from there!

    - We'll have to return the money for which it was purchased - at the current exchange rate and with interest ...
  23. Outsider
    Outsider 20 December 2020 01: 22
    -1
    Quote: dauria
    Yes, by the way, your MiG-31 is blind. Its locator is much stronger.
    Even the old one from the early 80s. By the way, the world's first phased array on a fighter.

    - No, this is the data of the MiG-31BM radar, modernized.
    And re-read the textbook of Voskresensky, sober up.

    - How many of these textbooks I have re-read, you yourself cannot imagine ... laughing lol
  24. Iris
    Iris 20 December 2020 10: 54
    0
    Ordinary planned transfers. Actually, there is nothing to discuss here: they have the right.
    I see no cause for concern.
  25. SovAr238A
    SovAr238A 20 December 2020 20: 39
    +5
    Quote: Vitaly Pogrebnyak
    The MiG-31 was originally conceived as an interceptor for cruise missiles, there is no need to pull an owl on the globe, we need the SU-57 and as soon as possible.


    It was never conceived of as a CD interceptor.

    There was simply a fool who voiced that since the MiG-31 has PFAR, it can accordingly detect low-flying targets against the background of the earth, and this is supposedly one of the tasks of the MiG-31.

    This is complete nonsense.
    The MiG-31 can shoot down no more than one CD in its flight.
    No more.
    But, for this very sortie, under ideal conditions, he will be able to shoot down a couple of bombers carrying 20-30 of these same missile launchers.
  26. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 21 December 2020 10: 59
    0
    Quote: Iris
    .. We will destroy you together with the USA ...


    "Who are "we ? The first Urapatriotnaya Sofa?
    I suggest that you personally focus on a more relevant "combat" task - behave more modestly on the forum.

    Well, as a rocket scientist, I will decide for myself where and how I should behave. They will answer us for the downed Il ...