Upgraded MiG-31BM added to the Pacific Fleet's naval aviation

Marine aviation Pacific fleet (Pacific Fleet) replenished with another modernized fighter-interceptor MiG-31BM. This was reported by the press service of the Eastern Military District in the Pacific Fleet.

According to the report, the MiG-31BM high-altitude fighter-interceptor returned to the airfield of the naval aviation of the Troops and forces in northeastern Russia in Kamchatka after repairs and modernization. Upon returning to the home airfield, the aircraft covered a distance of more than 8 thousand kilometers.

This fighter-interceptor became the fourth aircraft to undergo a deep modernization to strengthen the naval aviation of the Kamchatka group of forces.

- added to the press service.

In the course of repair and modernization, the high-altitude fighter received the latest avionics and electronic systems, as well as improved tactical characteristics, which significantly increases its combat capabilities.

Earlier, the Pacific Fleet strengthened the aviation grouping in the Arctic zone, deploying high-altitude fighter-interceptors MiG-31BM of the naval aviation of the fleet at the Anadyr airfield. Aircraft crews have already taken up combat duty.

MiG-31 (NATO - Foxhound - foxhound) is an all-weather double supersonic fighter-interceptor of long-range radius. It is designed to intercept and destroy air targets in any altitude range, at any time of the day, in simple and difficult weather conditions. Without refueling, the aircraft is able to fly over distances of up to 3 thousand km. Its ceiling is 20,5 km. The average duration of a flight without refueling is 3,3 hours. A group of four interceptors is able to control the space, the length of which along the front is 800-900 km.

Comments

[Ros 56]

Yes, it will not be enough.

[times]

I am glad that the necessary aircraft are being returned to combat readiness.

not enough

The Falcon is making noise every week - the work is in progress

[Uncle lee]

On Sakhalin?

[Nasrat]

Quote: Uncle Lee

On Sakhalin?

"Falcon" - a plant in Nizhny Novgorod ... When you go from Moscow - you can watch the approach of these "birds" to the plant's airfield. Yes, and sometimes gliders (without wings) carry along this route, though under an awning ...

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Nasr

"Sokol" - a plant in Nizhny Novgorod

And on Sakhalin - Sokol - a military airfield. Was, faded, now began to restore! So I asked the question.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Ros 56

Yes, it will not be enough.

In the USSR, more than 30 aircraft were made a year.

[Boris Chernikov]

and in Russia they can make 30 aircrafts ... the question ... why? even now there are less than 150 machines in service ... therefore, if money is now poured into the deployment of production, then in 4 years the troops will be saturated with the moment-31bm ... and what's next ? expel people, curtail production?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

and in Russia they can make 30 aircrafts ... the question ... why? even now there are less than 150 machines in service ...

I'm talking about the fact that 30 aircraft were produced a year from scratch. And now they are rolling out one car from the modernization.
There is evidence that the storage costs about 200-250 tons (I can be wrong), really they cannot be quickly modernized.

[Boris Chernikov]

1) only 250 cars, along with a reserve ... and about speed ... it's convenient for us on the Internet ... clicked the mouse and all the machines are modernized, but in reality you need to expand production, build hangars, hire and train personnel, then strain the contractors in the same way ..and then what? there is a "market" of 150 cars .. that is exactly how much in service, even if it is expanded to 200, then where to get the pilots? they need to be trained for 5-7 years .. and what to do with overclocked production? ..I do not exclude. that in the future, when a version of the UAV-interceptor is developed, it will be riveted in large batches, so that each IAP has its own squadron .. but so far they are not available ..

[Ros 56]

This is not how new ones do it, and modernization is going so slowly.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Ros 56

This is not how new ones do it, and modernization is going so slowly.

This is what I meant, I wrote above.

[akarfoxhound]

What's not enough for you? Almost the entire unit has already been rearmed, there are almost no "simple" ones left. Or from the Rzhevsky ARZ were all our planes to be sorted out at the same time? And at this time, modernization with slingshots from the crows of the Far East to cover?

[Nasrat]

Quote: akarfoxhound

What's not enough for you?

Don't worry, Stroporez is not on the topic of "drowning" - his task is to divert from the topic "MIG 31BM" to the topic "Putin is bad" - that's all ..

[Cyril G ...]

Did the naval squadrons rearm? How many there are in Yelizovo, three aircraft were transferred. I haven’t heard of Monchegorsk. But there, in the first place, the number of probably living has increased over the past couple of years to about 20, and the dump of 31 from the outskirts of the airfield has disappeared. The landfill in Yelizovo continues to exist ...
By the way, it is interesting that the Elizovskys flew to Anadyr, or from the Central Corner. And another interesting point - in Chuguevka, the IAP on the MiG-31 will be restored, what do you think?

[akarfoxhound]

In Yelizovo, "the other day" at the ARZ, an extreme downtime will be hijacked. Simple ones, such as DZ, BS, B (without "letters" generally keep quiet) in the ranks are almost gone nowhere. Manchester also changed their shoes, in Chukotka Uglovka and my Kamchatka men are on duty together. Chuguevka will not be restored, one squadron was thrown into Uglovka and that's it, there is no talk, every year it is used as a "summer" airfield for young animals from the surrounding points, the same Kamchatka has been spending "holidays" there since 2010. The people were broken, they were all driven away, and now the owl is being pulled onto the globe, in the east and in the west, fighters live less at home than transport workers. When did this happen in the Air Force?
P.S. In Yelizovo "dump" as a storage base in a rather "lively" state

[Cyril G ...]

Will we have a second squadron?

[akarfoxhound]

Was in the plans for Sushki, now the process with them has faded, the "old" 31e from the "canned" are slowly passed through the ARZ

[Cyril G ...]

Got it. But all the same, a squadron of naval "attack aircraft" is also asking us there. Su-30cm in the fleet, we also have in the SHAPs ...

[akarfoxhound]

Also in my former regiment, in 865 IAP I from 43 OMShAP "came" (from the Crimean mountains to Kamchatka), only then we flew in simple Su-24 (without M), it was impossible to be in the territory of xoxland with special ammunition, and Mki to smoke for the sake of "non-brothers" no one wanted, so they flew on dinosaurs. Now, yes, the guys in Mkah and Su-30 are rushing about in Newfedorovka. True, from the Mohicans, with whom he served there, only a few remained. The people from 30 tokens joined the air defense of the fleet, they began to twist the air combat, otherwise they appeared there from the "overclocked fighters", they had conversations over tea, answer questions (PPS, ZPS, etc. Labuden), and the people laugh - "the bomb is not similar, and therefore incomprehensible. " Joking of course

[Cyril G ...]

Have you retrained from the Su-24 to the MiG-31?

[akarfoxhound]

Not, on the contrary, from the MiGar (after the dispersal of the air defense IAP) to the Su-24 (then it was 43 OMSHAE), retrained on the bomber (Ostrov), then returned to his native materiel, but instead of the west he rushed east. I didn't like 24 at all. It is liked by those who, after school, got on it without "trying" other materiel. In the same 43, only "clean" bombers sang him praises, who before him flew the Su-17 (some up to 24 flew them, they came from Mongolia to the Crimea), Su-15, MiG-27, Su-25, MiG- 31 this device was not a favorite.

[Cyril G ...]

It's cool. On the contrary, I spent the whole service in the Bermuda triangle Petropavlovsk-Magadan-Anadyr from the first to the last day ...

By the way, within the framework of what is permissible, how exactly was the modernization of the MiG-31BSM carried out. Was the radar station heavily modified?
And one more thing - how effective was the R-40 missile in general?

[akarfoxhound]

I "re-baptized" the country on the cardinal points, managed everywhere, for 5 years at each point.
I can't post anything about modernization in detail on the Internet, except for general journalist boltology, I'm sorry, but you yourself understand. Even the S-800A is now not described in the realities of work for ordinary people, but indescribable surprises for the "partners" and it is capable of throwing, thank God 31 for export has not been pushed. 40ka was still a special stage, it looked solid, half-ton dypa - the carriers are clumsy to drive, the main ones are 31 in the application 33. We are extreme 40s, no longer used in the duty rooms "on time", in 2011 at a general training camp with young people in Uglovka we shot all worked, left, regardless of age. And for their tasks, as an add. weapons and 60 were enough, restrictions on the use of 60 were "more humane", restrictions from 40 in piloting were present, the difference in the range of use for real work "on border fulyugans" is insignificant, well, 60ok is already 4 (albeit a trifle underwing). The main work for the war is still 33. Luxurious materiel, besides long-range capabilities, is the most jam-resistant apparatus of the Soviet Air Force, Russian Aerospace Forces.

[Cyril G ...]

Got it, thank you very much, and by the way, what was the maximum launch range of the R-33 during firing?

[akarfoxhound]

She did not shoot at maximum speed, this is a sv / zv target in the PPS 0/4 and the stratosphere, there should be too much coincidence, we had other conditions all the time, we had time to catch on the intersecting sv / z a blank from PPS to ZPS passing to the same Telembe (shoot healthy range, I don’t want to). With a well-rehearsed station, the capture range somehow surprised me very pleasantly at the time, they worked well "well for" from what was written in the performance characteristics, but the ZDRka gives out "approvals" from the conditions. A lot of engineers also depend on the state of mind. I will not announce the actual practical ranges either, for obvious reasons, most of the converted into "M" with AKU-410 from the R-33 fly, a good rocket, stable, there are a lot of stocks in warehouses, "to fight and fight" with it.
AIM120 range of minke whales is not exactly what they write on the fence, the laws of physics have not been canceled, but advertising is advertising, vassals must buy. 54 They had a cool phoenix, it's good that in history, 22 with 35 is a big question, and 14 was a really dangerous device

[Cyril G ...]

At some point, they decided that there was no need to fight more SERIOUSLY in the air and so it would go down and wrote off Kotov, and there were cars that had flown in for 10 years. The Iranians still fly with our P-27 and P-73, but they still launched the Phoenix into the series. Although I understand perfectly well that deck vehicles sink much faster

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ros 56

Yes, it will not be enough.

Do you need everything at once and more, more no matter what? If only something to rumble on the keyboard.

[mitroha]

Oh, this is a piece production / modernization. But we are strengthening the grouping in the Far East systematically, and this is good news.

[Mavrikiy]

This fighter-interceptor was the fourth aircraft to undergo a deep modernization to strengthen naval aviation.

Shikoka-shikoka? He will go to guard the borders, but breaking off the horns of the foe .... will not be enough.

[seregin-s1]

to strengthen the naval aviation of the Kamchatka group of forces
Removed Kamchatka and you can poop?

[faiver]

Let there be more

[tralflot1832]

Will it fly in the interests of the country's air defense or graze aircraft with AUG in the interests of the Navy?

[Doccor18]

Quote: tralflot1832

Will it fly in the interests of the country's air defense or graze aircraft with AUG in the interests of the Navy?

Rather, the interests of the air defense of the Pacific Fleet, since it is part of the naval aviation.
And the air defense of the country should provide videoconferencing ...

Upgraded MiG-31BM added to the Pacific Fleet's naval aviation

[tralflot1832]

The order to take off is given by the structure of the Navy, no need to waste time on approval! It's good! Thank you!

[novel66]

But it is not clear, "Dagger" Anyone can carry, or specially prepared

[tralflot1832]

Everywhere they write Mig 31 K, which means with K Dagger, but you yourself know our entertainers!

[Doccor18]

Quote: novel xnumx

But it is not clear, "Dagger" Anyone can carry, or specially prepared

Unfortunately, not everyone.

[akarfoxhound]

A part of the OKVS since 1998, briefly from 2011 to 2013 was part of the Air Force, it covers the entire OKVS grouping in the general air defense system, including the RPLSN base, which this 865 IAP has always been doing from 40x. In Kamchatka, all the troops have been under sailors for decades. Air defense affects all threatening air and reconnaissance forces. What does the gradation of SVN affiliation have to do with it, what is your question?

[tralflot1832]

Who gives the order to take off? Immediately the Navy, based on its data, or you need to call the air defense officer on duty, the speed is of interest.

[akarfoxhound]

Not as such a "air defense officer". The command is always given by the command post, which is also naval (now everything is under the sailors, I explained, they command everything, everyone, including motorized riflemen, in general, everyone in the grouping of troops in the northeast), there is an order of the Ministry of Defense, issued annually, secret, which is understandable, duplicated by other orders "down" in the structure of the Armed Forces. It describes in detail the actions of the air defense aviation on duty. Let's take a detailed look at it, from the purpose and tasks to the order of impact on the offender (when they rise, in what cases and conditions, what they do, how they do it from the conditions, signals, conditions and order of b / use). Everything is scheduled to the meter and second. Violation of any point by crews or CP, PN is a criminal offense. The crews on duty and the composition of the command post are also given orders to the "Kremlin stars". Everything is very serious, no “for making a decision”.

[tralflot1832]

Yes, it looks like I missed something, on the Kola Peninsula, as you say? Like in Kamchatka? Thank you.

[Jacket in stock]

The modernization project was developed in 1998.
Those. this is the technique of the last century.
But even such in the troops are single pieces.
Sadness.

[Doccor18]

Work on deep modernization of the MiG-31 interceptor began back in 1984. Project - MiG-31M - The aircraft had a powerful Zaslon-M radar and long-range R-37 missiles. The prototype MiG-31M took off on December 21, 1985. An experimental series of 6 vehicles was built. Everything was ready for mass production by the beginning of the 90s. In 1994, OKB MIG received a telegram with congratulations from the President of Russia and ... that's all ...

[Boris Chernikov]

50-60 cars ... these are no longer single pieces, this is at least 40% of the current composition

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

it's at least 40%

For 20 years !!!
I wonder if this is because the industry is not able to produce more components, or so that the Sokol plant should be busy with something, so that it does not close down at all?

[Boris Chernikov]

rather the second ... the plant can also be understood, after the story with the Su-34 of fools to start production, no

[novel66]

They say more problems with subcontractors

[Boris Chernikov]

everything is possible, what I don't know, I don't know

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

50-60 cars ... these are no longer single pieces, this is at least 40% of the current composition

In fact, about one and a half hundred MiG-31s ​​have been upgraded to the BM / BSM version:

The main contractor for the modernization of the MiG-31 is the Sokol NAZ, which first carried out modernization under separate contracts, and in recent years has carried out these works under two contracts with the Russian Ministry of Defense - the contract of August 1, 2011 for modernization into the MiG- 31BM / BSM by 2019 60 MiG-31 combatant fighters, and an additional contract of November 2014, according to which another 53 MiG-31 combatant fighter should be modernized, with the completion of work by the end of 2018.

It is known that in 2012 NAZ Sokol delivered 2011 modernized MiG-10 interceptors under the 31 contract, in 2013 - five aircraft, in 2014 - 16 aircraft, in 2015 - 11 aircraft, and in 2016 - 22 aircraft, in 2017 - 23 aircraft, and in 2018, thus, apparently - 24 aircraft (although, perhaps, some of the latter have not yet been transferred to military units).
Rzhevsky 514th ARZ, according to known data, has delivered at least five modernized MiG-2013s ​​since 31.
In total, so far, taking into account the MiG-31 aircraft that were upgraded at NAZ Sokol under earlier contracts until 2012, as well as aircraft upgraded at the 514th ARZ in Rzhev, the total number of serially upgraded MiG-31BM / BSM delivered since 2007 in the Russian Armed Forces should reach, according to available information, about 150 units (three of which have already been lost). This number does not include MiG-31DZ fighters converted into MiG-31K carrier aircraft of the Kinzhal missile system (at least 12 aircraft).

© bmpd
And this is for 2019.

[Boris Chernikov]

well, I voiced the data that I had, in any case, catch lois

[akarfoxhound]

Why such a conclusion "for single pieces"?

[Doccor18]

Quote: tralflot1832

The order to take off is given by the structure of the Navy, no need to waste time on approval! It's good! Thank you!

Like good old times

[Pavel57]

Quote: Stroporez

There is evidence that the storage costs about 200-250 tons (I can be wrong), really they cannot be quickly modernized.

It is necessary to change all the electrics. This is to disassemble the plane.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Pavel57

can't they be quickly modernized.

It is necessary to change all the electrics. This is to disassemble the plane.

Disassemble-assemble the problem, and change the wires too.
We already wrote above that the problem is in the loading of the plant.
4 machines to make is one thing, and 40 in the same time, this is a different level of production. This is different money for equipment and equipment, a different number of people, etc. etc.
And the scope of work is limited.
Will the plant make it in 2 years and should it be closed?

[nobody75]

Why close? And who will do the 41st? In my opinion, they have not yet decided on the future carriers of the "Daggers". Perhaps there will be a new incarnation on the 31st ...
Sincerely

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: nobody75

Perhaps there will be a new incarnation on the 31st ...

I don't see the point. I personally later see in the series only the Su-57 and the upgraded Su-30SM with the Irbis radar and other avionics and engines from the Su-35.

[nobody75]

And who will be the carrier of the "Dagger"?
Sincerely

[Cyril G ...]

Making a unique carrier specifically for the Dagger is stupid

[nobody75]

Mig 31, in addition to the "Dagger" carrier, also works as a satellite interceptor.
Sincerely

[Cyril G ...]

MiGs are not getting younger. On average, about 30 years. And why do you think that the same Su-34 in special version cannot be used to suspend an anti-satellite missile on a special bridge between the engines?
Now about the Dagger. Note that the Indians are releasing a special version of the MKI for Brahmos. We are hanging a 3-ton PTB under the Su-34. Brahmos minimum 2.5 tons. I don't know the dagger, apparently by analogy, a maximum of 3.5 tons. Is it really not a solvable problem?

[nobody75]

The practical ceiling and speed at maximum altitude are higher for the MiG 31, and most importantly, it is "Barrier 2", which allows you to give the coordinates of the wave with millimeter accuracy. The Dagger's own guidance system works at the top points of its wavy trajectory, and the use of the Barrier allows you to control the number of "waves". Because of this, the Dagger can work on naval targets.
Sincerely

[nobody75]

Personally, I like the idea of ​​using an aircraft analogue of the Iskander with a standard warhead (with "sour milk"). And the supersonic cruising speed of the 31st allows for a quick inter-theater transfer.
Sincerely

[Cyril G ...]

- well, you will lose 100-200 kilometers and God bless him. And how will Zaslon help you if the goal is 2000 km.
- the fact that the Dagger to work on the MC can be understandable. The ARGSN was also developed for Iskander.
Even the color can be seen.

Another question is that you also need to learn to use them, but this is just not heard. In general, I have a feeling that the command of the Russian Navy has firmly embarked on the path of high treason.

[nobody75]

And how will Zaslon help you if the goal is 2000 km.

From the point of view of guidance, the first "dives" and give the greatest error. Therefore, "Zaslon" will help. And about the command of the Navy - because of hypersonic missiles, they go crazy. They do not understand what kind of animal it is and what to do with it.
Sincerely

[Cyril G ...]

Without adequate maritime reconnaissance, means of reliable issuance of control commands, and mutual exchange of information, long-range anti-ship missiles are useless

[nobody75]

Our admirals do not understand exactly this. They live in the paradigm of the Yeltsin naval doctrine "We will not fight with skem, but ships are needed for naval diplomacy." At one time, Kozyrev swore at the ships of the Soviet Navy for not having enough fuel to make the ships go on visits. Hence the fascination with corvettes and frigates ...
Sincerely

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: nobody75

They live in the paradigm of the Yeltsin naval doctrine "We will not fight with skem, but ships are needed for naval diplomacy."

+100500

Hence the fascination with corvettes and frigates ...

There is also the epic "Patrol Ships" pr. 22160.

At one time, Kozyrev swore at the ships of the USSR Navy for not having enough fuel to make the ships go on visits.

"Are you going to fight with the states? Seriously!?" (C.) - from the appeal of one multi-star admiral, so to speak, to submariners in Kamchatka. Somewhere in the middle of zero.

[nobody75]

Until they throw out the Yeltsin naval doctrine, which Yeltsin himself began to develop, until they chase the "admirals" who loaded the aircraft carriers of the cruisers with junk and ... into Korea, on needles, there will be no sense. Neither new hypersonic missiles nor submarines will save the day.
Sincerely

[iouris]

Whole one ?!

[Vitaly Pogrebnyak]

Fact - the older the plane, the better it is!

[iouris]

Quote: Vitaly Pogrebnyak

the older the plane, the better it is!

And the older the plane, so what?

[Zomanus]

Norm. The Pacific Fleet is now the most backward of our fleets. It is necessary to re-equip it at an accelerated pace.