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Chinese border guard spoke about the use of exoskeletons at heights of more than 5 thousand meters

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Chinese border guard spoke about the use of exoskeletons at heights of more than 5 thousand meters

Chinese border guards received new types of equipment. For example, exoskeletons have been delivered to the highlands of the Tibet Autonomous Region.


The Chinese press notes that this kind of special equipment allows border troops to effectively perform tasks in harsh conditions.

In particular, exoskeletons can reduce the burden on military personnel. In China, it is indicated that this is especially true when soldiers have to carry additional cargo in mountainous areas, which is often not limited weapons and ammunition.

The first new exoskeletons were received by the border units stationed in the Tibetan district of Ngari. There are really harsh climatic conditions. The district is located at an altitude of more than 5 thousand meters above sea level, which in itself is a test for the person who is serving there. Only specially trained military personnel are sent to such a service in Ngari, and the advantage is the border guards from among the representatives of the local population.

From the release of the Central Heating System of China:

Exoskeletons allow not only to reduce the load on the soldier, but to avoid injuries, including injuries to the legs and lower back when moving on mountain slopes and passes.

A Chinese border guard spoke about the use of an exoskeleton in the mountains and how the border detachment delivered backpacks with water and food to a remote outpost:

The weight of each of these backpacks is at least 20 kg. At the same time, the exoskeleton transfers the weight of the backpack onto itself, and it is much easier to move. Such equipment is what you need high in the mountains. It makes it easier to experience the lack of oxygen, in which every kilogram of weight seems to be a centner. The exoskeleton significantly saves human energy.

In China, they believe that the presence of such exoskeletons will give a significant advantage in border areas.

Previously, these special suits have been tested, including during operation for use when carrying out marches over many kilometers.
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frame of central heating of China
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  1. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 13 December 2020 12: 03
    +7
    It would be interesting to compare their exoskeleton with ours. And just feel it.
    1. apro
      apro 13 December 2020 12: 06
      +10
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      It would be interesting to compare their exoskeleton with our

      And they did not do it at the same factory? With Russian import substitution, this could be ...
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 13 December 2020 12: 08
        +8
        Not just one. Our exoskeleton is even outwardly different, not to mention the fact that no one will allow Russian developments for the defense industry in China.
        1. apro
          apro 13 December 2020 12: 10
          +1
          What accumulators? And control units?
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat 13 December 2020 12: 12
            +17
            As far as I remember, none. We have a mechanical exoskeleton. And then in winter you will wear out a heated cart with spare batteries to carry.
            1. Sofa batyr
              Sofa batyr 13 December 2020 12: 33
              +13
              Quote: Stroibat stock
              We have a mechanical exoskeleton.

              Absolutely right. Passive.
              The operating principle of which is based on the accumulation and release of energy by the elastic elements of the system.
              Simple, and relatively cheap.
              But in reality, in a real army, such an exoskeleton, and rather bulky, was lit up only in Syria, among our sappers.

              But the photo in the article shows an exoskeleton of a slightly different ideology ...
              No protruding frame, protruding hinges.

              I would try one in order to evaluate the characteristics and suitability for the same infantryman, who also has to carry on himself a mass, perhaps no less than the Chinese in the mountains.
              1. Yves762
                Yves762 13 December 2020 12: 47
                +2
                Quote: Divan-batyr
                Quote: Stroibat stock
                We have a mechanical exoskeleton.

                Absolutely right. Passive.
                The operating principle of which is based on the accumulation and release of energy by the elastic elements of the system.


                what
                The bicycle is, of course, healthier; but it's more practical on a motorcycle ...
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 13 December 2020 13: 01
                  0
                  Quote: Yves762
                  The bicycle is, of course, healthier; but it's more practical on a motorcycle ...

                  Well, they will develop super-accumulators so that energy per kilogram of weight is like a dozen liters of gasoline. The mass of electric motors will be reduced tenfold without loss of power (it is quite possible with superconductors). Then the exoskeletons with the drive will appear. They can even be made armored. In elite units, with a cost like an airplane.
                  Well, massively exoskeleton armored suits will go to the troops no earlier than its cost drops to, at least, the cost of a motorcycle.
              2. Reserve buildbat
                Reserve buildbat 13 December 2020 13: 07
                +5
                You are mistaken smile
                In addition to the heavy exoskeleton of the sappers, the exoskeleton of the machine-gunner "lit up", and the sappers even have protective elements on the exam. The specialty is still
              3. Intruder
                Intruder 13 December 2020 15: 53
                +2
                The operating principle of which is based on the accumulation and release of energy by the elastic elements of the system.
                and where is the energy generated from !? obviously not out of thin air :) And all movements by the elements of the system lie on the muscle tissue in the body, which successfully burns glucose, plus the very mass of the passive exoskeleton in addition to the equipment on the fighter's body ... well, if only .... antigravity or neutralize gravity, which is, what is not! :)
            2. apro
              apro 13 December 2020 13: 09
              -7
              Quote: stock buildbat
              As far as I remember, none. We have a mechanical exoskeleton. And then in winter you will wear out a heated cart with spare batteries to carry.

              Mechanical ??? and what's the point? To carry it on yourself ...
              The whole point of the exoskeleton is to add power to the fighter. To unload the hump.
              1. Reserve buildbat
                Reserve buildbat 13 December 2020 13: 15
                +9
                The point is to transfer the load from a person to a mechanism. In fact, it turns out that a soldier with full gear in an exoskeleton goes almost as if he were light.
                1. apro
                  apro 13 December 2020 13: 22
                  -7
                  Quote: stock buildbat
                  The point is to transfer the load from a person to a mechanism. In fact, it turns out that a soldier with full gear in an exoskeleton goes almost as if he were light.

                  As I understand it, it is without a drive? With a spring mechanism? Or is there another drive? Farting steam?
                  1. Reserve buildbat
                    Reserve buildbat 13 December 2020 13: 24
                    +5
                    He is without a drive. The exact principle of operation was not disclosed, but what they said without "batteries-motors".
                    1. apro
                      apro 13 December 2020 13: 25
                      -7
                      Quote: stock buildbat
                      He is without a drive. The exact principle of operation was not disclosed, but what they said without "batteries-motors".

                      So the springs ... and this is not a solution.
                      1. Reserve buildbat
                        Reserve buildbat 13 December 2020 14: 18
                        +5
                        And the solution is an exoskeleton with a carrying capacity of 50kg, of which 40kg are motors and batteries? And a spare set of batteries, which will have to be changed every hour during the winter? laughing
                      2. apro
                        apro 13 December 2020 14: 30
                        -5
                        Quote: stock buildbat
                        And the solution is an exoskeleton with a carrying capacity of 50kg, of which 40kg are motors and batteries? And a spare set of batteries, which will have to be changed every hour during the winter? laughing

                        But someone is developing suitable batteries? Someone is investing money. Is creating research teams. Who is solving this problem? And I think it will solve. Probably not the Russian Federation.
                      3. Reserve buildbat
                        Reserve buildbat 13 December 2020 14: 38
                        +6
                        They are developing. Decide. And with success. And it is in the Russian Federation. It's just that instead of a complicated and weighted structure, we make lighter and more reliable options. One does not interfere. There will be light and powerful motors, capacious batteries - they will be used. And now they use the materials and systems available. By the way, I think that getting a shrapnel / bullet into the battery will be quite unpleasant.
                      4. apro
                        apro 13 December 2020 14: 41
                        -9
                        Quote: Stroibat stock
                        And it is in the Russian Federation.

                        Somewhere I saw a Russian electric car, a smartphone, a flexible tablet ...
                      5. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 13 December 2020 20: 52
                        0
                        Quote: apro

                        Somewhere I saw a Russian electric car ...
                        Yo-mobile
                        Yo-mobile ...
                        Hybrid, but that is - that is ... Only to run in a series ... smile
                    2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                      Boris ⁣ Shaver 14 December 2020 17: 45
                      0
                      Quote: Stroibat stock
                      They are developing. Decide. And with success. And it is in the Russian Federation

                      Are you like Luka from At the Bottom, or, apart from blind confidence in a bright future, do you also have something specific on the topic? We are about batteries
                  2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                    Boris ⁣ Shaver 14 December 2020 17: 40
                    0
                    Quote: apro
                    who develops usable batteries?

                    It is quite possible to say that the development of qualitatively new batteries is one of the most important tasks of the 21st century for all mankind. Such an invention, without exaggeration, will change the world today.
                    Many have tried for a long time. But something real (including in terms of cost) that would be a direct leap forward compared to the available options is not yet visible on the horizon.
              2. Genry
                Genry 13 December 2020 14: 42
                +1
                Quote: apro
                So the springs ... and this is not a solution.

                In fact, a passive exoskeleton replaces a cart (all-terrain vehicle). But to drag her uphill without an engine ... No.
              3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 14 December 2020 17: 48
                0
                Quote: Genry
                passive exoskeleton replaces the cart (all-terrain). But to drag her uphill without an engine.

                You can also accumulate energy on the descent, for example. Even mechanically.
                And in general - the mechanics of human movement are far from the most energy efficient. You will not deny that on a bicycle you can take a bag of cement much farther than you can carry it on your feet? If you work on this mechanics (conditionally speaking, when the center of gravity is lowered, energy is accumulated, and when the center of gravity is lowered, it is spent), then you can get quite tangible results. Very much.
              4. Intruder
                Intruder 15 December 2020 19: 21
                0
                that on a bike you can take a bag of cement much further
                only on a flat and solid supporting surface, stones, sand and snow with marshy soil ... and sailed with a load of 100 kg, so nature created a universal drive for movement with a musculoskeletal system, on almost any surface with an average power - up to 250-300 W, by the way (a person does not use a lot of power in motion, only at peak loads), even swims in a liquid successfully ... :)
                If you work on this mechanic
                already worked, several tens of millions of years of successful evolution, only hardcore for the movement of primates ... :)
              5. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 17 December 2020 01: 29
                0
                Quote: Intruder
                only on a level and firm supporting surface

                Think of the catamaran. It is possible to transform human movement energetically advantageously for any "surface". This is pure mechanics.
  • Intruder
    Intruder 13 December 2020 15: 55
    -1
    so that immediately upon injury and damage, even a joint would close any, "all sorts of springs" and articulations of the joints of the exa welled up and not even crawl under fire ... it was sad and not reliable!
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 13 December 2020 13: 04
    -4
    Quote: apro
    What accumulators? And control units?

    Accumulators of the IRP type, the control software is installed in the soldier's head by means of stars.
  • mark1
    mark1 13 December 2020 12: 04
    +2
    And I thought - we are the most important fellows
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 12: 28
      +1
      Quote: mark1
      we are the most important fellows

      Wow! Well, you! A little hurt ...
      1. mark1
        mark1 13 December 2020 12: 31
        +1
        I can.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 12: 33
          -1
          Quote: mark1
          I can

          Isn't it okay for me? I'm drunk on the board ... drinks
          1. mark1
            mark1 13 December 2020 12: 34
            -1
            Entering the process ... drinks
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 12: 35
              -1
              Quote: mark1
              Entering the process ...

              Already poured a stopar
          2. Bashkirkhan
            Bashkirkhan 13 December 2020 12: 35
            -2
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            I'm drunk on the board ...

            Do you drink in the morning? drinks
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 12: 37
              -2
              Quote: Bashkirkhan
              Do you drink in the morning?

              Yes, I got a kick from work, and crashed a check.
              1. Bashkirkhan
                Bashkirkhan 13 December 2020 12: 41
                +2
                Take care of yourself, do not drink too much. hi
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 12: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Bashkirkhan
                  Take care of yourself, do not drink too much. hi

                  And I don't need much. A liter is enough. yes
          3. Ros 56
            Ros 56 13 December 2020 14: 18
            0
            Come on, lie, you won't hit the key. laughing
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 14: 19
              0
              Quote: Ros 56
              Come on, lie, you won't hit the key.

              I still get it.
              Bez problems ...
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 13 December 2020 14: 22
                0
                And if you also distinguish the letters, then the conclusion is clear, it means not drunk. laughing
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 14: 26
                  -1
                  Quote: Ros 56
                  And if you also distinguish the letters, then the conclusion is clear, it means not drunk.

                  I also distinguish between commas ... what
                  1. Ros 56
                    Ros 56 13 December 2020 14: 27
                    0
                    Then everything is really bad, so the money for the booze was wasted. fellow laughing
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 14: 33
                      0
                      Quote: Ros 56
                      Then everything is completely bad

                      All the way with me ... Everything is calm, all the way, the whole country = big Gazprom ...
                      1. Ros 56
                        Ros 56 13 December 2020 14: 36
                        +1
                        Well then, good luck.
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 14: 38
                        +1
                        Good luck to you too! winked
    2. Foxmara
      Foxmara 15 December 2020 18: 12
      0
      It's just that the junior team shouldn't think. He must clearly follow orders, there is a boss with his eyes.
      He is also not obliged to be interested in the real situation, but to write the first thing that comes to mind. Besides food, of course.
      Now, if he thought, he knew that the leaders in this area are the United States and Russia.
  • Smirnoff
    Smirnoff 13 December 2020 12: 05
    +12
    The future is getting closer. Exoskeletons will soon become commonplace.
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 14 December 2020 18: 18
      0
      Quote: Smirnoff
      The future is getting closer. Exoskeletons will soon become commonplace.

      Nikolai Ferdinandovich Yagn thought, inventing his elastiped in the 19th century.
  • Basarev
    Basarev 13 December 2020 12: 20
    -5
    What prevents you from simply building good roads in those parts? Does China have colossal industrial power? Let him solve the supply problem in a normal way, and not drive the pedestrians with their luggage.
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 13 December 2020 13: 03
      +4
      Quote: Basarev
      What prevents you from simply building good roads in those parts?

      Natural conditions. Have you ever been in the mountains? At a serious height?
      This is not sand, not swamp and not permafrost (although permafrost is still a problem) ... In addition to cold, rocks and the absence of flat surfaces, there is also such a factor as lack of oxygen ... Engines refuse to work.
      Well, and most importantly, the outposts are located in such a way that building a road there simply does not make sense.
      I think there was a planned replacement of the l / s, so that the turntables would not be thrown over. At the same time, the exoskeletons were tested.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 13 December 2020 13: 34
        0
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        In addition to the cold, rocks and the lack of flat surfaces, there is also such a factor as a lack of oxygen ... The engines refuse to work.

        And the bathhouse with the dining room is distorted. And the pool is falling apart. Height only 2600, trees, mushrooms. But it turned out that it was either permafrost, or ice buried from the last ice age. It b. - the mountains.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 13 December 2020 14: 05
          +1
          Quote: Humpty
          Height only 2600, trees, mushrooms.

          crying I envy, white envy. 24 years old, in such places have not been.

          Quote: Humpty
          But it turned out that it was either permafrost, or ice buried from the last ice age.

          Landslide? The pool was dug, was there clay?
          Quote: Humpty
          It b. - the mountains.

          good There is nothing to add.
          1. Humpty
            Humpty 13 December 2020 14: 18
            +2
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            Landslide? The pool was dug, was there clay?

            There was no clay, solid river sediments. And an overgrown ancient moraine on the side. Foundations in the heated rooms began to twist. The pool is the same. A sure sign of ice deep in the ground.
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 13 December 2020 14: 30
              0
              Quote: Humpty
              And an overgrown ancient moraine on the side.

              Maybe Sel, all the same? I mean...
              Quote: Humpty
              continuous river sediments.

              There, and the second channel can go.
              Quote: Humpty
              A sure sign of ice deep in the ground.

              Glacier descent? If the altitude is 2600, then it is still decent to the glacier (now). what
              1. Humpty
                Humpty 13 December 2020 14: 38
                +1
                Quote: LiSiCyn
                There, and the second channel can go.

                But this can be easy. The valley there is a kilometer and a half wide flat and level, the Yak 40 could sit down earlier. And the end of the main glacier at 2900 meters away.
                There are no normal mud-stone mudflows there. But every year during a flood for 2-3 days, the nearest river becomes the largest in terms of water content in Wed. Az.
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 13 December 2020 15: 58
        0
        I think there was a planned replacement of the l / s, so that the turntables would not be thrown over. At the same time, the exoskeletons were tested.
        so maybe, right away ... to change them to clones or robots, so that both kerosene and exoskeletons for the fighters not shaman, together with the fighters ...!?
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 13 December 2020 16: 12
          0
          Quote: Intruder
          so maybe right away ... change them to clones or robots,

          There are options? Especially interesting about clones ...
          And I will ask you the same question ... Have you ever been to the highlands? Where, practically nothing grows.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 13 December 2020 12: 21
    -1
    The Chinese press write that the exoskeletons were used by border guards to deliver goods to the local population! bully
  • APASUS
    APASUS 13 December 2020 12: 25
    0
    It's really real in what conditions robots are needed. Interestingly, the Chinese have already copied the LS3 "Alpha Dog" https://www.bostondynamics.com/robot_ls3.html?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 13 December 2020 13: 39
      +7
      Boston has been fighting with them for the second decade, there are still many jambs.

      And in Europe and the United States - the main real procurement movements go to unmanned platforms, China has a wheeled and a pair of tracked options + a landing for the Airborne Forces and a floating amphibian.


      Another area is transport UAVs, which have already become commonplace.


      1. APASUS
        APASUS 13 December 2020 19: 36
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        And in Europe and the United States - the main real procurement movements go to unmanned platforms, China has a wheeled and a pair of tracked options + a landing for the Airborne Forces and a floating amphibian.

        In the mountains ? Wheeled and tracked platforms, don't be funny! And if there is fog, no UAVs in the area of ​​5000 meters will help.
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana 13 December 2020 12: 26
    0
    delivered water and food in backpacks
    ..
    Delivered except for the sake of testing these very exoskeletons. Bo will not build an outpost away from a stream or river. Well, if not, they will supply the base with helicopters or caravans of pack animals.
    What distance is also out of the question. One km, ten, fifty, a hundred?
    1. Runway
      Runway 13 December 2020 13: 35
      0
      The yellow tactics of using l / s are different and at border posts a variable composition. The core of the border battalion is in the settlement, the border posts are spaced apart and set up at heights (it is almost never used). The posts are removed from the road, and the frontal access roads are covered with terrain (if possible). To the posts in the mountains only by foot (1-5 km).
      The soldier is cheaper than a horse and more versatile. I don’t know how the exoskeleton will help on the trails (if it takes on the weight of the load, then you don’t carry it (the load), but you pull it and your legs “get hammered” like hell).
  • Russ
    Russ 13 December 2020 12: 37
    +4
    Maybe a stupid question .. does the exoskeleton itself weigh so much? repeat
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 13 December 2020 12: 42
      +1
      Outstripped !!
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 12: 45
      -1
      Quote: Russia
      Does the exoskeleton weigh so much?

      Kilo fifty. You hesitate to carry.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 13 December 2020 13: 18
        +3
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Kilo fifty. You hesitate to carry.

        Yah! Passive, made of carbon fiber, with high-tech springs ... A strand of 5 kilos, probably.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 13 December 2020 13: 30
          -2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Passive, made of carbon fiber, with high-tech springs ...


          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 13 December 2020 13: 32
            +1
            https://topwar.ru/152887-gosispytanija-rossijskogo-jekzoskeleta-planiruetsja-zakonchit-v-2020-godu.html
            Here was the information.
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 13 December 2020 16: 00
          0
          Passive, made of carbon fiber, with high-tech springs ... A strand of 5 kilos, probably.
          it is better to carry 5 kg more water and food from the BC than the mass of carbon fiber with innovative springs along the mountains and valleys :)
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 December 2020 12: 40
    +4
    Try to go in leg with progress.
    1. Russ
      Russ 13 December 2020 12: 52
      +4
      Forward legs rod... yes
  • nnm
    nnm 13 December 2020 12: 48
    +1
    I would love to test such equipment. For some reason, it seems that it is good precisely with a rectilinear movement and reduces precisely the actions in other planes. Simply put - yes, it's easier to go straight up. But if there is an ambush, then you will find yourself in a cast up to the waist. But that is sofa reasoning.
  • Note
    Note 13 December 2020 12: 50
    +5
    For those of you who haven't figured it out yet, it's just a mix of a corset and an overload suit for flight crews and unloading for mountain brigades. From the exoskeleton there is only a name. However, as with us.
  • Humpty
    Humpty 13 December 2020 12: 52
    +6
    An interesting note. All the same, I can't help but think about the donkey. After all, he is a donkey in normal mode in China, when above 5000 meters, he easily carries 50 kg. You can ship a little more. True, if an old donkey is loaded into 100 kg, then it turns out to be disposable. I never do that.
    P.S. buy donkeys for the soldiers, and continue experimenting with the exoskeleton. Most of the times it was possible to drive donkeys with a load in China above 5000 m.
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 13 December 2020 13: 08
      +2
      Quote: Humpty
      P.S. buy donkeys for the soldiers, and continue experimenting with the exoskeleton. Most of the times it was possible to drive donkeys with a load in China above 5000 m.

      "But in Samarkand, no tram is needed. Everybody goes by yeshak. An eshak costs three rubles - it's cheap. But it raises ten pounds! .. Such a small dog, it's even amazing!" ("12 chairs")
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 December 2020 13: 24
      +4
      An experiment was conducted in the Israeli army.
      In one kibbutz, Jewish kids from South America bred llamas.
      An analogue of the donkey. They volunteered to train llamas for the army.
      And such a convoy with cargo was brought into Lebanon in 2006.
      It was great at first. But then explosions began nearby.
      The leader lama lay down on the ground and refused to move. And everyone else too.
      The experiment failed.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 13 December 2020 13: 56
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The leader lama lay down on the ground and refused to move. And everyone else too.
        The experiment failed.

        Animals must be brought up. A horse and a donkey, for example, can be brought up to a certain extent.
      2. aszzz888
        aszzz888 14 December 2020 02: 20
        -2

        voyaka uh (Alexey)
        Yesterday, 13: 24
        NEW

        0
        An experiment was conducted in the Israeli army.
        In one kibbutz, Jewish kids from South America bred llamas.
        Have you tried cockroaches, "Jewish guys"? laughing
    3. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 13 December 2020 13: 55
      +3
      Quote: Humpty
      After all, he is a donkey in normal mode in China, when above 5000 meters, he easily carries 50 kg.

      And it will take place where the horse cannot.
      Quote: Humpty
      True, if an old donkey is loaded into 100 kg, then it turns out to be disposable

      laughing crying
      Your countryman (Tokmakovsky) told me about the attitude towards donkeys ... Autumn is coming, I’m behind the gate, why should I feed him in winter ...
      -And what, then?
      -And in the spring I came out, caught the first one ... My donkey. laughing
    4. Intruder
      Intruder 13 December 2020 16: 02
      +1
      buy donkeys for the soldiers, and continue experimenting with the exoskeleton. Most of the times it was possible to drive donkeys with a load in China above 5000 m.
      or a couple of Tibetans, under the muzzle of a Chinese machine gun, rather than a "donkey" with voice control and an autonomous navigation system to heap ... :)
  • nikant
    nikant 13 December 2020 13: 15
    0
    China is actively working in all directions. When you are at least 40-50 kg on the foothills, then you understand what it is about ... and beyond 5000 meters there is no question at all ... well done!
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 13 December 2020 13: 20
    +2
    Well done!
    Not only invented, but already implemented in
    regular parts.
  • Humpty
    Humpty 13 December 2020 13: 40
    +2
    Here's what I thought. How long does it take to put on this device and can you quickly put on yourself without help?
    I remembered how it is when you get up from the bed above 5000, while you get into your shoes and with cold hands in the frost you attach thorny pieces of iron to your boots, already 40 minutes have passed.
  • LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 13 December 2020 15: 18
    +2
    Quote: Humpty
    And the end of the main glacier at 2900 meters away.

    Whoa ... Plateau? Like a low glacier.
    Quote: Humpty
    But every year during a flood for 2-3 days, the nearest river becomes the largest in terms of water content in Wed. Az.

    Come on.... lol Are you talking about Chu? wink
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 13 December 2020 15: 55
      +2
      Quote: LiSiCyn
      Are you talking about Chu?

      This is me about Inylchek. When Lake Merzbacher breaks through every year. Inylchek is one of the four great glaciers of Eurasia. It goes down low because the mass of ice is huge. Although let's say from Kongur (7719), this is 450 kilometers south from Bishkek in a straight line, the glacier descends to 2700. Ice from Communism. Fortambek at 2800.
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 13 December 2020 18: 09
    +2
    "At the same time, the exoskeleton transfers the weight of the backpack to itself, ..."
    Who-thread can translate it into an understandable language? wassat
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 13 December 2020 23: 23
      -1
      I think the exoskeleton as a whole is a cool thing, but only in a narrow range of applications. For example, for supply teams in mountainous areas - where you have to carry everything on yourself.

      In real combat, you often need to run, jump, lie down on the ground, and quickly change positions. Where is the guarantee that this thing will not break, will not interfere by catching on a sharp ledge or will prevent the fighter from quickly providing medical assistance ??? Is it possible to quickly remove the elements of the exoskeleton if there is an urgent need for it ???
    2. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 14 December 2020 23: 02
      +1
      I think something like a corset, when the load on the vertebrae
      the back will be transferred to the pushing muscles of the thigh.
      I wear this (corset), not from a good life, of course.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 15 December 2020 07: 50
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        Quote: DKuznecov
        I think something like a corset, when the load on the vertebrae
        the back will be transferred to the pushing muscles of the thigh.
        I wear this (corset), not from a good life, of course.

        Yes, but the weight itself hasn't gone anywhere - that's what I mean. In general, a clumsy article, you must agree.
  • dgonni
    dgonni 13 December 2020 23: 27
    +1
    The future is already behind every fence, but not in Russia.
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 14 December 2020 10: 57
      -2
      Quote: dgonni
      The future is already behind every fence, but not in Russia.

      Are you talking about the threat of a Civil War in the United States ???
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 14 December 2020 09: 57
    +1
    Nothing comes of nothing. The passive exoskeleton does not reduce the load, because the law of conservation of energy cannot be canceled by an army order) The exoskeleton redistributes the load. From those muscles that swing when walking all my life to those that were not previously involved in this process. Is it really better?)
    However, going down, you can try to translate the position into kinetic potential energy. That is, when the leg is bent, a part of the weight transferred to it is taken by the springs. And since each next point of the slope is lower than the previous one, the effort to lift the foot may not be equivalent ... Hmm. Maybe a useful thing if you know how to use it.