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The Il-80 air command post was robbed in Taganrog: about the culprits and the consequences

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The Il-80 aircraft, nicknamed in the West as the “Doomsday plane,” is in fact an air command post that can be used by the country's leadership and the highest military command in the event of a large-scale armed conflict.


In the summer of 2019, the plane was transferred to Taganrog aviation scientific and technical complex them. G.M. Beriev for modernization work. The command of the Russian Aerospace Forces is counting on the return of the aircraft to service in 2021-2022.

However, on December 7, 2020, the whole of Russia flew news: at the Taganrog-Yuzhny airfield, where the plane was delivered, the fact of theft of electronic equipment was revealed. Here you need to understand that the plane is used specifically for control, it has a large number of electronic equipment on board. The theft became known after, as it turned out on December 4, the head of the aviation security service of TANTK im. Beriev. He also reported the missing equipment. The very news that the air command post had been robbed caused a reaction.

It is worth talking about the likely culprits and the consequences.

According to a company representative, when the plane was accepted, all the instruments were in place. When the measures to change the lubricant on the landing gear rods were completed, company employees sealed the cargo compartment hatch, the main entrance to the aircraft and three emergency entrances. The last inspection was carried out on November 26: all seals were intact. Nevertheless, unknown persons still managed to enter the plane and steal valuable parts. Law enforcement officers managed to find the suspects' fingerprints on the abandoned switchgear cover and their shoe prints in the plane compartment. Now the Taganrog transport police are looking for criminals, and the public is wondering about the quality of security at the enterprise.

Indeed, it is not very clear how the criminals were able to penetrate not only the territory of the airfield, but also the plane. It turns out that he was either poorly guarded, or the theft of the equipment was committed by one of the persons who had access to the facility or to its protection. Today the second version is the most discussed.

Since the use of most of the stolen parts for civilian purposes is difficult, experts now have two versions of what happened. According to the first version, ordinary metal collectors could steal parts, more precisely, those who specialize in collecting (or stealing, let's call things by their proper names) valuable and rare metals. Then we are talking only about material damage and the need to allocate time for the installation of new equipment to replace the stolen or damaged equipment.

The second version is that the equipment could have been stolen for espionage purposes. This version assumes much more serious consequences, including for the national security of the Russian state, since the plane is used, as mentioned above, as an air command post.

But even if the leak is the work of ordinary hunters for valuable metals, then this is not encouraging. It turns out that without any special obstacles the attackers gained access to a military aircraft, and not to an ordinary fighter or bomber, but to a top-secret (in theory) air command post, entered the airfield, into the aircraft itself, and no one detained them at the crime scene ...

If we talk about the legal consequences for criminals, then, if they are caught, they will, of course, face liability under Article 158 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Theft", it is also possible that they be brought to justice under Article 215.4 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Illegal entry into a protected object." However, another point is more interesting - who will be held responsible for the poor organization of the aircraft's security. After all, the "doomsday plane" is a kind of air command post, with secret equipment. Therefore, it is possible that there will be consequences for the heads of the security service of the enterprise, for ordinary employees who were on duty that day,

- says lawyer Timur Hardy.

It is difficult to disagree with the opinion that it is necessary, after clarification of all the circumstances, to bring to strict responsibility all officials whose competence included ensuring the safety of the airfield and aircraft. This is too bad a precedent, and society must see that the government's reaction to such crimes will be harsh, that encroachment on secret objects is not the same as stealing household goods from a store or warehouse. At the same time, it is necessary to significantly improve the security of the TANTK and the airfield, since this incident testifies to the complete failure of the existing security system.
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  1. Airdefense
    Airdefense 8 December 2020 10: 30
    +29
    An equally interesting question is what is the median salary at the Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after G.M. Beriev.
    1. Temples
      Temples 8 December 2020 10: 33
      +32
      encroaching on secret objects is not the same as stealing from a store or warehouse


      You need to protect.

      Are the missiles in the mines still in place?

      Quote: Airdefense
      ... the question is what is the median salary in Taganrog ...


      What does this have to do with the lack of proper security of the site?
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 8 December 2020 10: 41
        +49
        What does this have to do with the lack of proper security of the site?

        If it turns out that the hard workers and the guards receive 15-20 thousand rubles a month, then all questions about the quality of the guard will be removed. Of course, it will be necessary to punish both those who were supposed to protect and those who carried it out, but the problem will not be solved exactly.

        It is also good that they took out the equipment, and did not bring in additional equipment to remotely detonate the plane.
        1. Temples
          Temples 8 December 2020 10: 59
          -11%
          Quote: Airdefense
          If it turns out that the hard workers and the guards receive 15-20 thousand rubles a month, then all questions about the quality of the guard will be removed.

          You still forgot to assign a technician from school here. wink Well, Chubais. laughing

          There are officials who are required to organize security.
          Apparently they couldn't.

          And, as you write, "hard workers" have nothing to do with this. wink
          1. akarfoxhound
            akarfoxhound 8 December 2020 11: 46
            +4
            I watch you minus "experts" who have no idea about the security of the airline, no organization, no payment, or anything related, but have an angry expert "opinion". In other matters, this is now already common on VO (the sofa is high, you can see it better from it). Do not get upset wink
          2. Airdefense
            Airdefense 8 December 2020 11: 52
            +1
            And, as you write, "hard workers" have nothing to do with this. wink

            How to look, to allow personnel to do repairs or service on such an aircraft with a salary of 15-20 thousand rubles is a serious safety threat. And even more or less well-organized security can miss when such an employee carries "bugs" on the plane.
          3. Paladin22
            Paladin22 9 December 2020 15: 42
            +1
            Well, yes, there are such persons, they organize security, pay symbolically and therefore do not require much ... Well, since any boss must be someone's six, he will kneel in the boss's office with a devoted look and the whole business ... He will pay a fine in 1000 rubles ... And if the incredible happens and they fire it for a short time, and the parachute will be milled
        2. Cosm22
          Cosm22 8 December 2020 10: 59
          +24
          There is little good in what they endured.
          For it is not known what information interested persons can extract from 39 radio station units and five boards from five similar dismantled units of such an important strategic military facility.
          1. ancient
            ancient 8 December 2020 11: 14
            +2
            Quote: Cosm22
            For it is not known what information can be extracted by interested parties from 39 radio station blocks and five boards from five of the same dismantled blocks.

            And the thought didn’t occur to me that they could have just removed the blocks for sale on the ... "black market"? wink
            "Wool" .. "poke" ... requests for the purchase of VHF and everything else ... in bulk wassat
            1. The Siberian barber
              The Siberian barber 8 December 2020 11: 21
              +26
              I believe that everything is more commonplace.
              In the 90s, everything that contained at least a grain of precious metals was dragged from ships.
              For hundreds of dollars, they crumbled systems worth millions
              Ghouls
              1. ancient
                ancient 8 December 2020 13: 46
                +5
                Quote: The Siberian Barber
                I believe that everything is more commonplace.

                Well, you know better wink , but does it not seem "strange" to you that they gutted exactly 39 p / st (took the same identical blocks from them) and pulled out 5 boards ... all the same?
                Theft and ... illicit trafficking in precious metals ... these are two big, or rather "weight" ..2 prizes2 for what they did. wink
              2. ancient
                ancient 8 December 2020 14: 12
                +3
                Quote: The Siberian Barber
                In the 90s, everything that contained at least a grain of precious metals was dragged from ships.

                I don't know about the fleet .. but in aviation ... products or components for them were valued .. preferably with "documents" wink
              3. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 8 December 2020 15: 25
                +3
                Moreover, those who began service in the Soviet Navy were also dragged along. With one such vodka I happened to drink. I did not hesitate to talk about it. I also repeated the saying, I don’t remember exactly, something like "we will drink everything, but we will not disgrace the fleet." He explained that it was being dragged from ships that had ceased to be combat units and were being taken out of service.
            2. Bashkirkhan
              Bashkirkhan 8 December 2020 11: 26
              +7
              Ancient, most likely these blocks with precious metals have already been handed over to reception centers and the money has been spent. Board RA-86149, which is in Taganrog - "wood" with equipment from the eighties.
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 8 December 2020 12: 39
                +10
                Yes, no need to explain what kind of wood there is, you need to protect equipment with equipment of special importance.
                1. ancient
                  ancient 8 December 2020 14: 01
                  +15
                  Quote: YOUR
                  Yes, no need to explain what kind of wood there is, you need to protect equipment with equipment of special importance.

                  I completely agree .... On November 26, the plane was rolled out of the CSC shop, put under guard and sealed. I hope everyone remembers their youth in the "military schools" when they began to go on guard and be assigned to guard the aircraft parking? ..... Every sentry, when accepting the post, bypassed all the aircraft and checked the presence and integrity of the seals using samples.
                  Here, VOKHR has exactly the same duties ... the question is ... why did the head of the "Regime" report to the management about opening the hatch and stealing the equipment only on December 4th?
                  Tried to "solve" on their own, on .. so to say .. hot traces? Or from a banal fear for .. their leadership positions?
              2. ancient
                ancient 8 December 2020 13: 56
                +2
                Quote: Bashkirkhan
                Ancient, most likely these blocks with precious metals have already been handed over to reception centers and the money has been spent.

                If you "knew" what it is like in this regard .. "handed over to the reception centers" you would not say so bully
                Quote: Bashkirkhan
                Board RA-86149, which is in Taganrog

                And what overboard with such a registration do you mean? recourse
                1. Bashkirkhan
                  Bashkirkhan 8 December 2020 17: 59
                  +2
                  Do you think there are gold and palladium in blocks and boards? As for the number, they write that RA-86149 is one of four “doomsday planes” in Russia, built on the basis of IL-86 passenger airliners and the equipment was taken out of it. Although journalists cannot be trusted, they can be wrong.
                  1. ancient
                    ancient 9 December 2020 16: 31
                    +2
                    Quote: Bashkirkhan
                    Do you think there are gold and palladium in blocks and boards?

                    I didn't "climb" into .. "insides" ... honestly .... well ... everything can be, but .... not in kilograms wink ?
            3. New Year day
              New Year day 8 December 2020 11: 49
              -2
              Quote: ancient
              And the thought didn’t occur to me that they could have just removed the blocks for sale on the ... "black market"?

              Who will buy? But the neighbors may well
              1. ancient
                ancient 8 December 2020 14: 02
                0
                Quote: Silvestr
                Who will buy?

                Probably very far away from .. "aviation business"? bully
            4. Cosm22
              Cosm22 8 December 2020 12: 18
              -3
              A lot has come to my mind lately. For different reasons.
              And you, obviously, think that the relevant authorities will first of all seize on the version of "removing R / C blocks for a banal sale on the .." black market "?
              Oh well...
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 8 December 2020 12: 54
                +20
                Written by the transport police. Those. about nothing. Stolen well, okay.
                Such cases show the state of the state machine.
                In the propaganda messages, everything is fine - new weapons are being tested, exercises are being conducted, parades are skating. And behind the facade there are such stories. There is rottenness behind the beautiful scenery in matters of defense. However, this is the case with Putin in everything - medicine, education, economics. One has only to look behind the front curtain.
                1. ancient
                  ancient 8 December 2020 14: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: YOUR
                  Written by the transport police. Those. about nothing.

                  I agree .. but this is a pro forma .. according to "territoriality" ... since "regime" .. these are "big brothers" bully and for sure, the "case" is already in the "tallest building" on Grecheskaya wink
              2. ancient
                ancient 8 December 2020 14: 03
                +1
                Quote: Cosm22
                And you, obviously, think that the relevant authorities will first of all seize on the version of "removing R / C blocks for a banal sale on the .." black market "?

                Absolutely so..Taganrog is 240 thousand inhabitants and..is a "red" city ...... here ... you won't have time to "think", but already ... "they will come to you" bully
        3. ancient
          ancient 8 December 2020 11: 12
          +7
          Quote: Airdefense
          If it turns out that the hard workers and the guards receive 15-20 thousand rubles a month,

          This is how much the canteen workers get wink ..Security from 25 wink
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 8 December 2020 12: 09
            +4
            Quote: ancient
            Quote: Airdefense
            If it turns out that the hard workers and the guards receive 15-20 thousand rubles a month,

            This is how much the canteen workers get wink ..Security from 25 wink

            Formally, we all get pretty good, the average salary in the country is very high, but in practice the real salary is much lower than the declared one.
            1. ancient
              ancient 8 December 2020 14: 07
              +1
              Quote: 1976AG
              the average salary in the country is very high, but in practice the real salary is much lower than the declared one.

              Absolutely agree with you drinks
              1. Filxnumx
                Filxnumx 9 December 2020 22: 12
                -3
                at the firm of horns and hooves drinks , perhaps. But not at a state-owned enterprise.
        4. Lord
          Lord 8 December 2020 11: 25
          +6
          Maybe the guard did
          1. Yngvar
            Yngvar 8 December 2020 14: 01
            +1
            The first law of socialism: "He who protects what, has it!"
            In general, of course, the story is muddy.
            The object is at least top secret, is it guarded by grandfathers (even, perhaps, grandmothers. Grandfathers do not live to see pension)?
            Well, by the nature of what they took out, they knew what to take ... If we were to investigate, then it was not for the policemen ... The Military Prosecutor's Office!
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 8 December 2020 15: 27
              -2
              Enough about grandfathers who did not live to see. Why are there so many of them on their faces then? Many die in the interval of 40-55 years. And those who have lived to be 60 years old are very likely to live to 80 years old.
        5. donavi49
          donavi49 8 December 2020 11: 26
          +6
          It is also good that they took out the equipment, and did not bring in additional equipment to remotely detonate the plane.


          Well, they didn't leave a note saying that we are homeless, there is nothing to eat, we ask you to understand, forgive. And even if left, it is not a fact.

          If the aircraft will be returned to operation, then it will be necessary to conduct a full check of all rooms and niches for unnecessary bookmarks.

          And this will also raise the question, but what about the other sides, at least those on Beriev (and there are a lot of special boards suddenly + Tu-95MS + Il-38N + new AWACS + RC / EW if there is a systematic work there, then the key directions are cars for reconnaissance and stakeholders).
          1. ancient
            ancient 8 December 2020 14: 10
            0
            Quote: donavi49
            IL-38N

            belay ?
            Quote: donavi49
            + RC / EW

            belay ?
            Where do ... such "fireballs" come from? wink
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 8 December 2020 15: 20
              +3
              Not Il-38N, but 142. They are constantly renovating them with elements of modernization, at a rate of 1 aircraft per year. Here in 2020 they passed 53.


              Under contracts with Tupolev, they worked on the Tu-214 for the Ministry of Defense. They also make A-100 and A-50M. They also work there as a jammer (in 17-18, according to the open ROC from the report).
              1. ancient
                ancient 9 December 2020 16: 47
                0
                Quote: donavi49
                Not Il-38N, but 142.

                So that's why I asked you questions ..... about "your IL-38" .. well, and somehow "not professional" to compare .. "repeater" with .. "electronic warfare" ... don't you think? wink
                And what and how, etc. do and did on Dimitrov and Beriev ... I know since 1950 wink
        6. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 8 December 2020 12: 21
          +7
          Quote: Airdefense


          If it turns out that the hard workers and the guards receive 15-20 thousand rubles a month, then all questions about the quality of the guard will be removed.

          What does this have to do with it? If you got a job in the guard, then be kind to guard as it should. Not satisfied with the salary - look for another job.
        7. common man
          common man 8 December 2020 12: 36
          +8
          Quote: Airdefense
          If it turns out that the hard workers and the guards receive 15-20 thousand rubles a month, then all questions about the quality of the guard will be removed.

          This is some kind of madhouse. Lack of high wages cannot justify theft, especially for espionage purposes. So you can agree: "He raped a little girl because he did not have money for a prostitute, and he could not" fill up "an adult aunt because he did not have the strength, he did not eat for two days. Therefore, it is not his fault."
        8. bk316
          bk316 8 December 2020 12: 58
          +1
          If it turns out that hard workers and guards receive 15-20 thousand rubles a month, then all questions about the quality of security will be removed

          Remember young man. All people are divided into those who steal at work and those who do not steal. And this division is absolutely independent of salary. Whoever claims the opposite is likely to steal. The one who steals if the worker is rushing what is bad, if the manager takes kickbacks, but if the top then steals in billions on government contracts.
      2. Azimuth
        Azimuth 8 December 2020 11: 02
        +22
        Great. Often, enterprises are not able to provide adequate protection precisely for material and financial reasons. Management is torn between the task of retaining top talent and security.
        Who has not come across, I will explain, the protection of even a small warehouse, organized according to all the requirements, where the number of protection, the modes and the systems and equipment used, is a VERY expensive undertaking and this is a significant amount that needs to be spent every day, every month, from year to year, despite the financial performance of the enterprise as a whole. And defense industry enterprises sometimes sit for months on a leaking basis, so often managers go to the economy in order to simply keep the team to a minimum.

        This problem has already been raised, and for a long time. It was proposed to ensure the protection of certain territories or workshops and production sites by the forces of a state structure, for example, by the same Russian Guard.
        1. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn 8 December 2020 13: 02
          0
          In my opinion, the security is non-departmental, at least it was like that two years ago.
          1. ancient
            ancient 8 December 2020 14: 18
            0
            Quote: nov_tech.vrn
            In my opinion, the security is non-departmental, at least it was like that two years ago.

            Tried .... did not pull ... "expensive" became ... plus with the "design" .. headache.
        2. Glory1974
          Glory1974 8 December 2020 13: 51
          +5
          It was proposed to ensure the protection of certain territories or workshops and production sites by the forces of a state structure, for example, by the same Russian Guard.

          The Rosgvardia has a price tag for security three times higher than that of private security companies. The protection of objects is transferred to the Rosgvardeyts exclusively by administrative methods. Often, even ordinary security guards and lower-level managers do not change, cash flows change.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 8 December 2020 10: 44
      +23
      Quote: Airdefense
      An equally interesting question is what is the median salary at the Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after G.M. Beriev.

      The salary is for the workers of the plant, and such objects as, to put it mildly, the command plane should be guarded at least by paramilitary guards, if not by a military guard.
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 8 December 2020 10: 47
        +7
        Well, we have what we have, if the media do not lie, "anyone" can enter such a plane and take out what he wants.
        1. Avior
          Avior 8 December 2020 11: 07
          +7
          and even more dangerous is that not only to take out, but also to bring in :(
      2. ancient
        ancient 8 December 2020 11: 16
        +1
        Quote: Starover_Z
        guarded by at least a militarized guard

        So it is guarded by VOKHR ... and ...
      3. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 8 December 2020 11: 53
        +3
        Yeah, and the Tu-95, which is being modernized at this ARZ, is a grandmother with a mop, and the Il-38N is a Tuzik on a chain, and the Be-12 is a Barsik, etc. Mentally with admiration I applaud the depth of thought by the degrees of gradation of protection of ARZ objects !!! good
        1. ancient
          ancient 8 December 2020 14: 29
          +1
          Quote: akarfoxhound
          objects ARZ !!!

          Neither the 31 aircraft plant, nor the 76 experimental aircraft plant with design bureaus have ever belonged to the "system" - "Aviation Repair Service" 0, but only to the USSR Ministry of Aviation Industry, and at the moment to the USC RF.
          1. akarfoxhound
            akarfoxhound 8 December 2020 16: 48
            +1
            Well, what have you to do with saying "for objects" at a particular plant and belonging to the "system"?
            In general, my previous comment in its purest form of irony to the claims of Ilyushka's individual, isolated, if you like, "Vokhrovsky Remboy with a gun" wink
            1. ancient
              ancient 9 December 2020 16: 35
              0
              Quote: akarfoxhound
              Well, what have you to do with saying "for objects" at a particular plant and belonging to the "system"?

              Because ARZ ... is from ... "another" .... "opera" (system) ... try how to "climb" into the territory of the "neighbor's" 325 ARZ .... wink
              Quote: akarfoxhound
              pure commentary of irony to the claims of Ilyushka's individual, isolated, if you will, protection by "Vokhrov's Remboy with a gun"

              But here I agree completely drinks
              1. akarfoxhound
                akarfoxhound 9 December 2020 21: 10
                +1
                Honestly, driving there the materiel a couple of times - I did not even delve into - whose left / right there and who owns, and did not know that there were a couple of offices, it was not my "topic". He flew in, the engineer from the "front line" passed, flew home, erased from memory. And it doesn't matter here with these "radio amateurs", I didn't write about that. Well, okay, forgot
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 8 December 2020 10: 44
      -3
      Quote: Airdefense
      An equally interesting question is what is the median salary at the Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after G.M. Beriev.

      Perpendicular. repeat
    4. Magnat231
      Magnat231 8 December 2020 11: 00
      -10%
      And what has the salary, you went to work, so you knew about the salary, and the salary is not satisfied with the hell you went, once you came, do the work
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 8 December 2020 11: 13
        +12
        IL-80 aircraft, nicknamed in the West "the Doomsday plane"
        here it is ... "judgment day" ... and the Kremlin will be surrounded ... the scale of theft across the country, it is no longer surprising, everything comes from the top, it is contagious.
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 8 December 2020 11: 39
          +20
          Quote: Aerodrome
          IL-80 aircraft, nicknamed in the West "the Doomsday plane"
          here it is ... "judgment day" ... and the Kremlin will be surrounded ... the scale of theft across the country, it is no longer surprising, everything comes from the top, it is contagious.

          It's time to laugh at Ukraine again and discuss how everything sucks and how they steal there.
        2. 72jora72
          72jora72 8 December 2020 12: 29
          +5
          here it is ... "judgment day" ... and the Kremlin will be surrounded.
          So the Kremlin has already been surrounded by the "Kremlin" prisoners ...
          1. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 9 December 2020 13: 04
            +3
            Quote: 72jora72
            So the Kremlin has already been surrounded by the "Kremlin" prisoners ...

            From there, metastases spread throughout the Russian land.
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 December 2020 13: 11
          -7
          Everything just goes from the bottom and reaches the top along the steps.
        4. Looking for
          Looking for 8 December 2020 16: 19
          +2
          Yes, spit on the KREMLIN-PEOPLE WILL BE DIED. and not a few. dozens and hundreds, tens and hundreds of thousands.
      2. Airdefense
        Airdefense 8 December 2020 12: 04
        +2
        So I am not making excuses for anyone, and if it turns out that what a repairman has endured to feed his family, this will also not be an excuse for him. But again, the problem will remain, this company maintains a lot of special aircraft.
    5. ancient
      ancient 8 December 2020 11: 11
      +8
      Quote: Airdefense
      An equally interesting question is what is the median salary at the Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after G.M. Beriev.

      Site looking for work at TNTK ... in your hands wink
      For example: The company (firm, organization, individual entrepreneur) TANTK named after G.M. Beriev, OJSC offers work in the city (region) of Taganrog, Aviator Square, 1 (address).

      The employer can offer the following wages: from 15000 to 35000 rubles (wages).

      The job applicant's responsibilities include the following:
      OJSC "TANTK named after GM Beriev" requires riveters for serial production of BE-200 aircraft.
      5-day work week, full benefits package and stable salary!
      In the absence of work experience, training is possible

      The employer can offer the employee the following working conditions for the position of the Assembler:
      Full-time, full-time work on the employer's premises

      · Registration, vacation, sick leave, etc. according to TC
      Contact the address: Taganrog. Aviators Square, 1.
      1. Avior
        Avior 8 December 2020 13: 01
        +8
        offer the following salary: from 15000 to 35000 rubles (wages).

        read 15000. This is a common practice in ads. smile
        1. ancient
          ancient 8 December 2020 13: 42
          +4
          Quote: Avior
          read 15000. this is a common practice in ads

          Well yes, I agree drinks ... starting for a trial period of 3 months, and then ... "oh..you don't suit us" wink although it used to be assembler-riveter profession one of the most "earning" professions at aircraft factories (both MAP and ARP).
    6. Deniska999
      Deniska999 8 December 2020 11: 20
      -4
      And the salary of the management.
    7. Piramidon
      Piramidon 8 December 2020 11: 42
      -2
      Quote: Airdefense
      An equally interesting question is what is the median salary at the Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after G.M. Beriev.

      Does this justify the crime? Even homeless people are tried and not acquitted for theft.
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 8 December 2020 12: 12
        +8
        Quote: Piramidon
        Even homeless people are tried and not acquitted for theft.

        Homeless people can be judged, practice for novice judges. They are not officials from the top, nor the governors or their deputies, here they are !!!
      2. Airdefense
        Airdefense 8 December 2020 12: 13
        +6
        No, this does not justify the crime, but it exposes the problem. I have already looked on the Internet that they write that engineers and technicians have an average salary of 30-35 thousand rubles, which, to put it mildly, is sad. In our capitalist and open age, we essentially trust the country's defense capability to people who can think of where to get money to feed their families. Not to mention the fact that people in an extremely difficult situation can easily cooperate with Western intelligence services.
        In the closed USSR, Tolkachev in Moscow himself contacted the CIA and leaked just incredibly valuable data about the new at that time the MiG aircraft control system and countermeasures to the enemy's radar.
    8. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 8 December 2020 12: 37
      +4
      Management of ANTK them. G.M. Beriev should be sent to the NKVD to L.P. Beria on the conveyor.
    9. venik
      venik 8 December 2020 13: 11
      +1
      Quote: Airdefense
      An equally interesting question is what is the median salary at the Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after G.M. Beriev.

      =========
      WHY is there a "median salary" ?? What do you think - they steal only because "salaries are small"? By the way, this is the favorite "excuse" of criminals: "I went to a crime solely in view of poor financial situation".....
      Here the question is more complicated! If there is a mess and an atmosphere of permissiveness, then all and sundry are "tyryat", and no high salaries will help: all the same, everything that "lies badly" will "tyr and tyr". Lovers of "profit for free" alas - an ineradicable tribe!
      And if there is order and understanding of the elementary truth: "to steal is bad!" (which is achieved including and by brutally slapping on "naughty hands" and other parts of the body) - even such incidents will become almost impossible!
      1. ancient
        ancient 8 December 2020 14: 40
        +4
        Quote: venik
        And if there is order and understanding of the elementary truth: "to steal is bad!"

        So yes, but that's just all the "extreme" General Directors - gentlemen - Garivadsky, Kobzev were convicted by the Taganrog City Court, and Mr. Grudinin is under investigation (2 UDs have been instituted, part 4 is imputed, Article 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.) At the moment house arrest measure.
        Here is something like this .... recourse
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 9 December 2020 13: 06
          -3
          Quote: ancient
          Here is something like this ....

          Do not outweigh everyone !!!
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  3. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 8 December 2020 10: 33
    +17
    In general ... survived ...
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 8 December 2020 10: 41
      +2
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      In general ... survived ...

      What, has never happened before? I mean, the theft of valuable equipment from a carefully guarded facility.
      Is this case a precedent?
      1. ancient
        ancient 8 December 2020 11: 17
        +1
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Is this case a precedent?

        So who will tell you? wink .... read in the media .... there are often such cases described.
      2. igor67
        igor67 8 December 2020 11: 27
        +3
        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
        In general ... survived ...

        What, has never happened before? I mean, the theft of valuable equipment from a carefully guarded facility.
        Is this case a precedent?

        there has always been, at our re-base there was back in Soviet times, a site for the removal of precious metals from electrical radio equipment decommissioned, of course, there is a lot of gold in the necks, the admission there was limited, where so much equipment was taken is also not known. repeat
      3. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 9 December 2020 08: 37
        0
        .... a precedent ...?
        ------- '
        In general, yes .... it's not just valuable equipment ... if, of course, you understand what it is about. And if you take a picture in general ... then "survived" is a soft term. The President of the Russian Academy of Sciences, said that we cannot compete in space with the leading space powers ... the arms market has been lost, up to 4% ...
        Putin is our FSE ... laughing
      4. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 9 December 2020 13: 07
        -1
        "Where aviation begins, order ends there ..."

        (c) V. M. Petlyakov

    2. pmkemcity
      pmkemcity 8 December 2020 10: 43
      +17
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      In general ... survived ...

      It's good that the red button was not stepped on ...
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 9 December 2020 08: 40
        0
        The red button was not stepped on ...
        -----------
        Indeed, what happiness ... laughing laughing
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 December 2020 13: 14
      0
      In general ... they survived ... in the USSR it was abruptly when in 1977 Beleno was hijacked to Japan by the MiG 25, which made it necessary to change the system of one's own alien in the entire army for billions of rubles.
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 8 December 2020 13: 31
        +1
        But now, not the USSR? Now everything is much better, if better, why is this happening?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 December 2020 14: 03
          0
          Now everything is better - in terms of industrial and technical espionage, since there is an Internet means of communication for shooting each and every one and many other pribludin for espionage that anyone can do himself. And the guards are recruited from the streets.
          1. Daniil Konovalenko
            Daniil Konovalenko 8 December 2020 14: 15
            +2
            [b
            ] And the security is recruited from the streets.
            [/B]
            Isn't it good or bad if everything is better today?
  4. Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 10: 33
    +5
    Yes, here's the FSB security service let them look for who stole Where was the VP? Even when the boat is being modernized and it is guarded by the crew And then in general They will say in Russia and Poplar M will be stolen from under the nose
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 8 December 2020 11: 00
      +2
      Where was the VP?

      Who! VP? Military Police or what? Well, I suspect that she was at the place she was supposed to, she was performing official duties, but what does she have to do with it?
      1. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 11: 05
        0
        According to the idea, I think the VP should have protected at least
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 8 December 2020 11: 49
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
          According to the idea, I think the VP should have protected at least

          Nobody forbids to think and put forward ideas, but nobody will perform other people's functions. VP to the protection of aircraft in any way. Rosgvardia is more suitable.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 December 2020 13: 17
          +1
          Such objects should already be guarded by robotic complexes 24 hours a day - in order to exclude any human factor.
          1. paco.soto
            paco.soto 8 December 2020 14: 24
            +1
            Vadim237
            Today, 13: 17

            +1
            Such objects should already be guarded by robotic complexes 24 hours a day - to exclude any human factor. ©

            Neutral opinion of the old immigrant man:
            Vadim, your words robotic systems are "overly scientific" today. Now the price of a movie indicator for lighting or closing car gates, etc. is 5 € and they probably stand in your own house. And the organization of electronic surveillance of important objects is not a problem today. I agree with your opinion - this is a special services operation. If you are interested, I can explain why.
            1. mmaxx
              mmaxx 10 December 2020 06: 37
              +1
              Well .... Such spending needs to be justified in front of managers and to prove the economic effect. In numbers. Otherwise they won't give money. And the fact that there can be stolen they do not care.
              They are not masters, they are freeloaders.
              1. paco.soto
                paco.soto 11 December 2020 23: 51
                0
                I do not argue, just in case.
          2. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 9 December 2020 13: 09
            -1
            Quote: Vadim237
            Such objects should already be guarded by robotic complexes 24 hours a day.

            All the cameras in Moscow ... Not enough for the whole of Russia, and why?
        3. alexmach
          alexmach 8 December 2020 14: 22
          +1
          According to the idea, I think the VP should have protected at least

          In theory, the VP should catch unauthorized drunken drunks, and maintain order in the places adjacent to the DB, as in Syria.
          Crew? Who are the pilots who should guard him themselves or what? Well, not seriously, pilot, this is actually a highly qualified specialist. It is not his duty to stand guard, nor is it the duty of the other technicians serving on this aircraft.

          If transferred to the plant, then the plant's security service should have been involved. And yes, they should be connected with the GSO .. or rather, now with the Russian Guard, which absorbed it, to be somehow connected. Moreover, if the required level of secrecy and safety of the aircraft is higher than the plant can organize, then either the SB of the plant, or the customer should have thought about this in advance ...
          1. mmaxx
            mmaxx 10 December 2020 06: 43
            0
            And the guard has an agreement on the scope of services defined by the procurement documentation and, accordingly, by the agreement. And all that is in addition is, excuse me, not included in the terms of reference. You have to pay extra for this. And this is money, the allocation of which must be coordinated, conclude an agreement, pay ... And if it turns out to be more than 500 tons, then arrange a tender ... Well, and so on and so on. I can write such cases here. Since I live and fight with this dibilism. As long as financiers rule the industry, there will be no sense.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 10 December 2020 11: 10
              0
              And the guard has an agreement for a certain amount of services in the procurement documentation and, accordingly, in the agreement

              Still, the agreement can be left "open", provide for the possibility of organizing additional security measures if necessary .. or is it impossible for the state structure? Should the volume of services be fixed?

              Well, in any case, no matter what framework the contract and tender restrictions established, it was the responsibility of the management to make everything work in such conditions.
              1. mmaxx
                mmaxx 10 December 2020 14: 33
                +1
                Such "expansion" agreements are interpreted as corruption.
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 10 December 2020 16: 14
                  0
                  hmm .. hard, but also understandable.
                  Well, let's say I'm the director of a plant, let's say that I need security, let's say I'm not particularly competent in matters of security, those guys who paid 24 million are competent in them. How should I, in principle, draw up a detailed contract or task for a security tender?
                  1. mmaxx
                    mmaxx 10 December 2020 18: 25
                    +1
                    Everything should be stipulated in the procurement documentation and transferred to the contract.
                    Sometimes the bosses can commit hooliganism. But you can get caught by the prosecutor's office and the FAS. And out of the blue. In this case, you can still steal, and any most honest person can fall under corruption. Live as you want. State bodies supposedly stand guard over the "law". And law 223-FZ was invented by traders and for traders. Which in the industry has no ear or snout. And since the prosecutor's office is easiest to catch someone who will not go anywhere anyway, in pursuit of the reporting loud figures they rush at the guilty ones like dogs at an animal.
                    That is why we have had so many strange accidents lately. That is why the asphalt begins to be laid in September. Tenders for the procedure are being held in time for the end of the summer.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 8 December 2020 11: 04
      +16
      Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
      Yes, here's the FSB security service let them look for who stole Where was the VP? Even when the boat is being modernized and it is guarded by the crew And then in general They will say in Russia and Poplar M will be stolen from under the nose

      Along the way, war is still "not foreseen," and therefore the hut of any conventional Chubais or Matvienko is guarded much better than an air command post. request
      1. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 11: 14
        +3
        They protect the composition of the boats for boats when a thorough repair or modernization is underway and there is no one here
  5. Avior
    Avior 8 December 2020 10: 35
    +13
    An important factor in a nuclear war is someone stole a radio, on which you need to give a command to launch missiles.
    The situation is like a bad action movie ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 8 December 2020 10: 45
      +10
      The situation is like a comedy movie.
      "The pacifists have hired thieves-hunters for precious metals.
      Doomsday plane so that there is no Doomsday.
      No plane - no nuclear war. "
      I would also check the Perimeter / Dead Hand system. There too
      full of valuable metals. Copper cables, I suppose, have been cut too long ago ...
      1. Avior
        Avior 8 December 2020 10: 50
        +7
        Something such "comedies" are frequent
        ... MURMANSK REGION. Two servicemen received long sentences for the theft of radio components from the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov". They stole 393 radio elements worth more than 1,4 million rubles.

        Last spring, foreman Arslan Akhmaisov and sailor Philip Filin entered the ship’s pantry, took out radio components from there and hid them in another aircraft carrier building. Then the military organized an underground workshop at Kuznetsovo, where they extracted elements with precious metals from the radio parts with wire cutters. Men sold “enriched” products in Murmansk for 1,2 million rubles.

        1. New Year day
          New Year day 8 December 2020 11: 52
          +4
          Quote: Avior
          Something such "comedies" are frequent

          Total indifference
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 8 December 2020 10: 53
        -11%
        Are you overjoyed?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 8 December 2020 10: 56
          +9
          Strongly overwhelmed and worried, to be honest.
          I think that at least strategic weapons are protected.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 8 December 2020 11: 03
            +7
            What I don’t understand is why the aircraft is being repaired at the TANK im. G.M. Beriev was sent. There, as far as I am aware, the collapse has long been serious.
            Have you decided to support the company with an order?
            And Ukraine is just a stone's throw away ...
            A muddy story. Not good. hi
            1. mmaxx
              mmaxx 10 December 2020 06: 44
              0
              There is actually a whole aircraft plant nearby.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 10 December 2020 08: 44
                0
                That aircraft plant has been in poor financial condition for a long time.
                And disrupted orders for the supply of 6 Be-200.
          2. Alexander Galaktionov
            Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 11: 03
            +5
            Under the protection of strategic Chubais only A special board well, this is
          3. figwam
            figwam 8 December 2020 12: 41
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            I think that at least strategic weapons are protected.

            You think about American drug addicts who sit at the consoles of nuclear missiles.
        2. DenZ
          DenZ 8 December 2020 11: 10
          +5
          What's the difference now, whether it's happy or not. This should not be from the word at all. Got shit, of course, I hope they find all those involved and make the appropriate org. conclusions (as always in such situations, however).
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 8 December 2020 11: 36
            0
            This should not be from the word at all.

            I think so too.
            What's the difference now, whether it's happy or not.

            So he asked because I absolutely did not want to joke about it. hi
          2. Piramidon
            Piramidon 8 December 2020 11: 53
            +1
            Quote: DenZ
            I hope all those involved will find and make the appropriate org. conclusions (as always in such situations, however)

            They will make RMS and particle boards extreme, and high bosses will be left out of business.
          3. Looking for
            Looking for 8 December 2020 16: 30
            0
            maybe they will find it, but imagine what Russia has created for itself an advertisement !! ! and in 20 years the world will mock and mock.
      3. Azimuth
        Azimuth 8 December 2020 11: 17
        0
        We worked on one of the objects related to this system. Everything is old and wretched in terms of "real estate", but not only reinforced concrete, but also in a figurative sense, equipment, etc. everything is new, in the aggregate everything is working. According to the locals, they live for a few minutes, and to accept and transmit the order for a couple of tens of seconds.
        While we were working, their duty did not stop, alarms, etc. How they "played the war" and battered down, sat and cooked for hours, some inside, others outside.
        The security of the far perimeter is funny - aunts with manicures and SCSs, scare mushroom pickers, and maybe even seduce laughing closer to the object, everything is more fun - special forces, pillboxes with remotely controlled modules, modern surveillance and security systems. That is, it is simply impossible to suddenly capture even before the first strike.
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 8 December 2020 11: 52
          0
          What "system" are you talking about now? In the Strategic Missile Forces described by you - no .. everything is somewhat different - but suddenly - it is really difficult to capture .. and the VPU in the sky is even more difficult to capture .. just wondering - where finally the future in the Armed Forces has come, that there are already pillboxes with remotely controlled modules in full use ..
          1. your1970
            your1970 8 December 2020 12: 37
            0
            For a long time, for a long time there is ... Back in the 90s I observed the operation of such a unit at the facility
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 8 December 2020 13: 56
              0
              Sergei, this is where in the Strategic Missile Forces aunt with a manicure and SKS in GO, special forces (in the sense of a security group - special forces from conscripts-year-olds who?), Pillboxes with remotely controlled machine guns (are you talking about an armored hood occupied by a fighter with an AK-74 on alarm? ) and modern surveillance systems?
              I would still call the surveillance and security systems, though effective, but not modern obviously .. and even more so if you are talking about the 90s .. and I did not see this in the 2000s ..
              Although maybe I just didn't understand what you meant, like the previous opponent, but that's why I asked, where is it? otherwise they announced - the system, the object, the block .. which, where, in which troops, it is not clear, respectively, and the subject of the conversation is not clear ..
              1. your1970
                your1970 9 December 2020 06: 39
                0
                lol
                I meant an exclusively remotely controlled module and not in the Strategic Missile Forces ..
                The operator's monitor was black and white and dim, at night a faint human outline was visible, but it was convenient to shoot - the sight moved smoothly
      4. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 9 December 2020 08: 44
        0
        ... uh

        I would check ...
        -------
        Well, why are you being shy ... you have already checked it for a long time, tell me, do not pull the cat for ...))
  6. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 8 December 2020 10: 35
    0
    If theft for espionage purposes, then the article is different. And on the mind - the execution of both criminals and the chief of security. If on non-ferrous metal - to solder all the same 20 years of correctional labor in the form of planting trees in the place of the felled taiga somewhere far from settlements and it is fun to watch the "prisoner - bear" battles, where the prisoner is armed with a shovel.
    1. figwam
      figwam 8 December 2020 10: 41
      +1
      Yes, the guys will sit down for a long time, pull out the secret blocks and leave fingerprints and shoes.
      1. mark1
        mark1 8 December 2020 10: 46
        0
        Quote: figvam
        will leave finger and shoe prints.

        Duck was a special switchman with them. Then they will find him, they will find something from the equipment (maybe even almost everything) and the question is settled.
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 8 December 2020 12: 08
          -1
          It depends on what and from whom they will find and what they will not find, and depending on what equipment they stole, everything is too serious.
          1. mark1
            mark1 8 December 2020 12: 31
            -1
            Very super-serious! Perimeter composite element. And about the switchman, in the light of espionage tricks, I assumed so amateurishly ...
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 8 December 2020 11: 54
        0
        Quote: figvam
        will leave finger and shoe prints.

        Are you going to search in Ukraine?
        1. figwam
          figwam 8 December 2020 12: 05
          0
          You are wrong, I have a different profession.
    2. Galleon
      Galleon 8 December 2020 11: 48
      -1
      You must be protected: you keep the entire criminal code in yourself. Not even: you generate it from yourself in each specific case.
      Is it weak to live under the law? How much is burglary, 20 years? Where could this thief know the purpose of the board, there were plates hanging about the object of special protection, his state was guarded, this guard? No, the chopovets factory was held periodically.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 8 December 2020 15: 57
        -1
        I understand that in your life you have never seen anyone more terrible than a watchman with a Berdan, when apples were stolen from a collective farm garden. But I will try to convey to you one simple thing: The air command post is a top-secret object and must be guarded very strictly. I can remind you that when one corrupt skin named Belenko hijacked a MiG-25 to Japan, it was necessary to urgently modernize ALL MiG-25s in the USSR. If the equipment from the Il-80 gets to the enemy, there will be a LOT of changes throughout the country. So you understand better why I am quite cruel in my assessments of the situation? Or do you still think that "I stole and okay. Not caught - not a thief"?
        1. Galleon
          Galleon 8 December 2020 16: 41
          0
          Under current Russian law, your cruelty remains completely with you. and it is right. Under the same legislation, as under Roman law - not caught - not a thief. Justifying one's sense of revenge and sadistic inclinations by someone else's betrayal and concern for the state is cowardly, but traditionally for Russia for the last 500 years: starting with the glorious oprichnina and continuing with the glorious Belarusian riot police and the Rosguard.
          The top-secret object entrusted to you must be protected like the apple of your eye - this is the essence of the service. Investigators will figure out who was responsible for where, but in fact, the FSB officers in charge of the plant should be responsible for maintaining the state secrets, because who else, if not them, knows the system of guarding military aircraft on the territory. But again, let the investigators figure it out.
          You, in your thirst for punishment, do not even understand that after such a call it is necessary to change the system at all military factories in the country! This is what should be the main thing, not a bigger sentence.
          And yes - I'm not scared, because I didn't steal.
  7. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 8 December 2020 10: 36
    +9
    There was no guard around? And this plane, in theory, packed with secrets to the eyeballs? This is not carelessness - this is a crime. MO, as a customer of work, should approach such issues more specifically, and not look at these facts from the outside. In theory, there is now not only the equipment to change, but also the concept itself.
    1. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 10: 41
      +10
      Guard? Shoigu only gives his maidens the rank of general)) And the fact that a special board without protection is so trifling
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 8 December 2020 10: 49
        -16%
        Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
        Guard? Shoigu only gives his maidens the rank of general)) And the fact that a special board without protection is so trifling

        Stop talking in vain. And Shoigu is an excellent defense minister. For your information, white stars on shoulder straps mean a civilian specialist in a general (for example) position with all that it implies.
        1. Alexander Galaktionov
          Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 10: 58
          +6
          Civilian specialist rankings see what they are equal to the military
      2. Magnat231
        Magnat231 8 December 2020 11: 04
        -1
        Well, yes, Shoigu should set up posts at the airfield, don't talk nonsense, the jambs are completely on the side of those who had the plane
        1. Alexander Galaktionov
          Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 11: 11
          +1
          That is, you don't need to guard the special board? Then what kind of boat is it guarded for when it is under repair?
    2. Looking for
      Looking for 8 December 2020 16: 39
      0
      late "approach" - "plant" is necessary.
  8. Igoresha
    Igoresha 8 December 2020 10: 37
    0
    it's scary to even imagine what comments on Echo of Moscow
    1. Looking for
      Looking for 8 December 2020 16: 43
      0
      and what in Ukraine !!! - horror. Because there is any petty puncture of the Russian homeless all over the country for a week savor. And here is such a "bomb" - horror.
      1. Igoresha
        Igoresha 8 December 2020 17: 02
        -1
        In Ukraine, American radio stations were stolen almost on the same day ... maybe one gang is operating))
  9. mark1
    mark1 8 December 2020 10: 39
    -1
    They stole the radios and payments to them, obviously not the starving employees of TANTK. Imprison everyone and the director and security guards and security guards and wool staff for the presence of dubious personalities close to neighboring states.
    1. pmkemcity
      pmkemcity 8 December 2020 10: 47
      -1
      Quote: mark1
      the presence of dubious personalities close to neighboring states.

      We managed to reach the Canadian (Ukrainian) border!
  10. Dimy4
    Dimy4 8 December 2020 10: 42
    0
    Who will guard the watchmen?
  11. Bashkirkhan
    Bashkirkhan 8 December 2020 10: 43
    +7
    Designer Edward arrived from the future in 2020 to stop nuclear war and save humanity.
    To do this, he needs to get into the credibility of the locksmiths team at the Yuzhny airfield and disable the plane that will start the apocalypse. (from)
  12. Dikson
    Dikson 8 December 2020 10: 45
    +8
    Do you think there are many "non-ferrous metal collectors" who break open the hatch as a whole, which is not in a landfill, an aircraft? While stealing several radio stations ..? Stupid version. Knowing the purpose of this board, I would venture to suggest that theft is just a distraction .. You have to look for either a bookmark, or wiretapping .. or "someone else's GPS sensor", roughly speaking ..
    1. Avior
      Avior 8 December 2020 10: 55
      +11
      If there are florid collectors on the only aircraft carrier in the country, why not be found here too
      This is an old problem
      Denis Grigoriev! The investigator begins. - Come closer and answer my questions. On the seventh of this July, the railway watchman Ivan Semyonov Akinfov, walking along the line in the morning, at the 141st verst, found you unscrewing the nut, by which the rails are attached to the sleepers. Here it is, this nut! .. With which nut he stopped you. Was it so?
      - FAQ?
      “Was it all like that, as Akinfov explains?”
      - Of course it was.
      - Good; Well, why did you unscrew the nut?
      - FAQ?
      - You give up your "FAQ", and answer the question! why did you unscrew the nut?
      “If I didn’t need it, I wouldn’t unscrew it,” Denis wheezes, squinting at the ceiling.
      “Why did you need this nut?”
      - A nut? We make sinkers from nuts ...
      - Who are we?
      - We, the people ... Klimovsky men, that is.
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 8 December 2020 11: 12
        +2
        Quote: Avior
        This is an old problem

        Well, very old.
        But working without helpers - maybe sad, maybe - is boring.
        The enemy thought the enemy was a dock, - wrote a fictitious check.
        And somewhere in the wilds of citizen Epifan’s restaurant
        A non-Soviet man was led astray by the way and from pantalyku.

        Epiphanes seemed greedy, cunning, smart, carnivorous,
        He did not know and did not want measures in women and in beer.
        In general, this: John's assistant was a godsend for the spy.
        This can happen to anyone if drunk and soft. (S)

        Those interested can replace John with Moisha lol
        1. Avior
          Avior 8 December 2020 11: 21
          +2
          Those interested can replace John with Moisha

          Voice-over "Some people know him as Krasnodar" smile

          smile
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 December 2020 13: 33
      +2
      Yes, that's a little hard to believe that these were some kind of banal color hunters were. I am more than sure that these guys were from Ukraine, secret service workers under deep cover, working in Russia for several years as technicians, airfield maintenance personnel, or maybe local ones who were offered big money by Western special services for removing secret equipment and blocks from the board - now there is a crisis and a chance for a comfortable life is unexpected fallen down will crush many.
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 8 December 2020 13: 59
        +1
        Vadim237
        Today, 13: 33

        +1
        Yes, that's a little hard to believe that these were some kind of banal color hunters were. I am more than sure that these guys were from Ukraine, secret service workers under deep cover, who have been working in Russia for several years as technicians, airfield maintenance personnel ©

        Vadim, put you + for the content of the comment.
  13. tarabar
    tarabar 8 December 2020 10: 45
    +8
    Who is guarding this enterprise? Some CHOP Gyurza, CHOP Panther or CHOP Ratnik - a bunch of idlers and degenerates who can only carefully fill their barn book and raise the barrier without leaving the booth, and at night choke their bed or watch porn. On how many enterprises, though civil, I go everywhere the same, a whole army of efficient, quite young lazy people.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 8 December 2020 12: 03
      +2
      Quote: tarabar
      Who is guarding this enterprise? Some CHOP Gyurza, CHOP Panther or CHOP Ratnik

      I remember that our planes, after being delivered to the ARZ, were guarded by the VOKHR grandparents.
    2. Freeman
      Freeman 8 December 2020 13: 40
      0
      Quote: tarabar
      Who is guarding this enterprise? Some CHOP Gyurza, CHOP Panther or CHOP Ratnik - a bunch of idlers and degenerates who can only carefully fill their granary book and raise the barrier without leaving the booth, and at night choke their couch or watch porn. On how many enterprises, though civil, I go everywhere the same, a whole army of efficient, quite young lazy people.

      If a civil enterprise is guarded by men, that's still good - but a certain, in theory, a "defense" plant, guards a private security company on outsourcing.
      The personnel of the "fighters", or rather "fighters" - aunts "45 ++", the build "kolobok" or "Winnie the Pooh" (small, short, round).
      No, to tell the truth, there is a certain "alarm-patrol group" - but against the general background, it is somehow lost.
      Shl. About the "aunts".
      - Maybe I'm wrong and they are all, at least, CCM in any fight? what wassat
      1. tarabar
        tarabar 8 December 2020 13: 42
        +1
        All these miracle guards are CCMs to combat sleep. laughing
      2. Galleon
        Galleon 8 December 2020 16: 49
        0
        On the guard of a brewery I know, one shift of the chop was for women, and two shifts for men. Baba's shift was much more agile and grasping than the peasants. so the CCM is not the CCM, but the service was vigilant. soldier
        1. Freeman
          Freeman 8 December 2020 16: 56
          +1
          Quote: Galleon
          On the guard of a brewery I know, one shift of the chop was for women, and two shifts for men. Baba's shift was much more agile and grasping than the peasants. so the CCM is not the CCM, but the service was vigilant. soldier

          The key word is "brewery".
          There is a confrontation between two types of "solidarity" -
          "female" versus "male". drinks wink
    3. ohka_new
      ohka_new 8 December 2020 16: 03
      0
      The security is entrusted to the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia", the cost of services is 25 million rubles / year.
      An agreement was signed with the departmental security from April 1, 2020 to March 31, 2021. “Protect the facility from acts of unlawful interference, take measures to suppress crimes and administrative violations aimed at causing harm to the health of employees and other persons at the facility, as well as the property of the customer,” one of the security tasks is described in the draft agreement. The contract executor is responsible for providing eight round-the-clock security posts at the airport.
  14. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 8 December 2020 10: 46
    +1
    I have a suspicion that these are not color hunters. I saw him more than once, it was scary to approach the airport fence when he was on the runway. The FSB is on its ears, probably he is no longer a flyer.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 8 December 2020 11: 35
      -1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      he probably isn't a flyer anymore.

      Or maybe this is the calculation? wink
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 8 December 2020 11: 45
        +1
        Maybe they missed it. What can I say, the operation was carried out well. Now, if it's them, everyone knows about us. The metal workers are some kind of trained, obviously not drunks.
    2. Redfox3k
      Redfox3k 8 December 2020 12: 40
      0
      Duc Il-80, by definition, is not a flyer. First, the equipment is completely outdated. Secondly, Il himself is completely outdated. I don't understand how he was sent for modernization at all. From my sofa I somehow see a new command and staff aircraft based on at least a Tu-204-300, an example of the president's Tu-214PU, and like an Il-96-400 - a maximum. But apparently the MO has its own vision of reality.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 December 2020 13: 37
        +2
        This equipment is still used and it will remain under the heading "completely secret" for many years to come, since the operating algorithms and the very construction of the systems do not change.
  15. your1970
    your1970 8 December 2020 10: 47
    +1
    Well, in general, from my own experience, military airfields are difficult to protect with high quality
    1. cniza
      cniza 8 December 2020 10: 54
      +2
      The airfield may not be a specialist, but a super-secret facility at the airfield is it possible?
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 8 December 2020 11: 47
      0
      It all depends on the human resource.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 December 2020 13: 38
        0
        Half of the population are potential thieves - with such a resource Russia will live for a long time.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 8 December 2020 13: 43
          +1
          I belong to the second half, which will not climb a military facility.
          1. your1970
            your1970 10 December 2020 11: 13
            +1
            Quote: tralflot1832
            I belong to the second half, which will not climb a military facility.

            In the quiet, peaceful USSR (1980) our squadron commander managed to exchange two Mi-2s for 10 rams before Dembel and his departure ...
            A week later, the shepherds pinned up and began to demand their helicopters ... In all seriousness, your boss gave them to us. It didn’t even occur to them that the helicopters were military, so to speak ...
            To the question "why do you want them?"
  16. cniza
    cniza 8 December 2020 10: 49
    +4
    It turns out that without any special obstacles the attackers gained access to a military aircraft, and not to an ordinary fighter or bomber, but to a top-secret (in theory) air command post, entered the airfield, into the aircraft itself, and no one detained them at the crime scene ...


    There is no way to call it ...
    1. Vladimir247
      Vladimir247 9 December 2020 08: 51
      +1
      I have no words...
      --------
      Well ... the Russian language is rich ... I would suggest a choice: freedom, democracy ... laughing
  17. Warrior05
    Warrior05 8 December 2020 10: 51
    +1
    In 1x - MO, before sending the aircraft for maintenance, you must remove secret equipment!
    In 2x - the head of security, at best, for "well-deserved rest" for negligence, I think the enterprise is still a regime and you can put something unnecessary on the plane, and not just take it ...
    1. ancient
      ancient 8 December 2020 11: 20
      -1
      Quote: Warrior05
      In 1x - MO, before sending the aircraft for maintenance, you must remove secret equipment!

      Who told you this? belay
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 8 December 2020 16: 51
        -1
        He imagines that tanks, ships and aircraft must be completely gutted before being repaired at the factory.
      2. Warrior05
        Warrior05 8 December 2020 23: 14
        0
        Why the crap? Until now, sending equipment for repair (on the basis of a car or a floating vehicle) I remove the equipment ... this is the alphabet ... The so-called "wheelbase" is subject to repair. Even SVT is transferred for repairs without a hard ... or have they modernized the filling at the airline? ZAS is removed unambiguously ...
        1. ancient
          ancient 9 December 2020 16: 29
          0
          Quote: Warrior05
          Until now, sending equipment for repairs (based on a car or a floating craft), I remove the equipment ... this is the alphabet ...

          Keyword .... (based on a car or floating craft) wink but the plane .. as a rule wink ... flies "by itself" (not to be confused with the definition .. by itself wassat)
          Before handing over for service or for repairs, "SRZO key inserts" are removed ... everything (they are always and everywhere removed after the end of flights). wink
          All units of the CAS and telecode information transmission equipment always remain in place, except for cases when they are also removed for preventive maintenance and repair.
          After carrying out all types of work and transferring the aircraft to the LIS (VCI) for acceptance flight tests, the aircraft is accepted in the standard configuration, in combat readiness (and it is flown around with the "inserts" and "keys" installed) wink
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 8 December 2020 15: 04
      +2
      And what if the entire aircraft is classified equipment and some of this equipment will be verified-changed-modernized at the plant in Taganrog? wink

      Well, that is, even if the encryption blocks were removed. Even the actual composition of the equipment itself is already bread and caviar for competent persons. And on empty racks and underwater tires, you can analyze what has been removed. If you take out a couple more blocks for analysis, then it's generally excellent.

      Well, and most importantly, you can work under the bomzhiks. Rip up 2/3, biting out the elements for delivery, and take complete samples of different systems for analysis wink ... And this probability cannot be ruled out.

      I repeat, there is another Tu-95MS in the MSM being modernized, in a nearby parking lot. Various letter boards. A-100 and A-50M. That is, a lot of equipment can be potentially compromised.
  18. iouris
    iouris 8 December 2020 11: 03
    0
    Since it is SO guarded, then it is empty.
    1. Kart
      Kart 8 December 2020 11: 20
      -2
      Finally!
      Thank you, you were the only one who noticed that the plane arrived for modernization and that the old equipment was dismantled.
      That is, it's rubbish for metal collectors.
      And then such is worth crying and lamenting about negligence personally know who.
      1. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 11: 38
        +2
        Old dismantled removed new modernized generally offset good
        1. Kart
          Kart 8 December 2020 12: 10
          -6
          Dismantled does not mean that the warehouse has been transferred.
          This process has many stages.
          In any case, obsolete equipment does not represent any value other than metal.
          But not for adherents of the thought that "in Russia everything that works is left of the USSR."
    2. evgen1221
      evgen1221 8 December 2020 11: 58
      +2
      And to put a calling device on board with satellite control? Such airplanes and specialists flying in it stand like no one else. Security must be of the highest level.
  19. Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 8 December 2020 11: 07
    +4
    The spy does not sleep, but as always, "the soldier is sleeping, the service is going on"
  20. Dikson
    Dikson 8 December 2020 11: 11
    +5
    And what, now change the entire system of special communications? ... Someone will grab orders over the hill ...
  21. Lord
    Lord 8 December 2020 11: 24
    0
    And unas everything is the same
  22. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 8 December 2020 11: 25
    +2
    The Security Council chief says that the parts were in place upon receipt, and after lubrication the plane was sealed. And after lubrication it was necessary to check whether everything was in place. It may happen that one walked with an oil can, and the other unscrewed.
    The question is raised not only by the quality of the aircraft security, but also by the entire perimeter of the facility. Let's say the details were removed by the thieves, but they still need to be taken out of the territory. Or they have not left the territory yet, lie in a secluded place.
    In general, the investigation must be carried out carefully so as not to betray themselves.
  23. Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 8 December 2020 11: 25
    -1
    "... On December 4, the head of the aviation security service of the Beriev Aircraft Company addressed to him. He announced the loss of equipment."- WELL I DO NOT KNOW... recourse it seems that counterintelligence should be engaged, although now the policemen are responsible for everything ...
    1. Galleon
      Galleon 8 December 2020 11: 54
      0
      It's simple: a former police officer went to the police. And along the way (closer to disclosure) the FSB will take over the case.
  24. mag nit
    mag nit 8 December 2020 11: 26
    -1
    It is clear that some rascal stole ...
  25. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 8 December 2020 11: 26
    +7
    It's only the beginning. People are rapidly becoming impoverished and will soon drag everything that is not nailed down. And no one cares what it will be - secret equipment with precious metals inside or a hammer from the factory. All that is needed will be carried.
  26. rocket757
    rocket757 8 December 2020 11: 31
    0
    NOT FUNNY!
    There are many questions, the answers will have to wait .... I hope that everyone who is guilty will receive what they should.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 December 2020 13: 47
      +1
      Svizdets will be if all these blocks are not found, as well as those who removed them, since "The last inspection was carried out on November 26: all seals were intact." "It became known about the theft after, as it turned out on December 4, the head of the Aviation Security Service of the Beriev Aircraft Company addressed to the police." detailed photos of all boards and circuitry and components and send this information via the Internet where necessary.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 December 2020 14: 28
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        Will be fucked up if all these blocks are not found

        To pay tribute to all "heroes" of the epic MUST!
        Quote: Vadim237
        take detailed photos of all boards and circuitry and components and send this information via the Internet where necessary.

        Believe me, there is NOTHING SPECIAL there !!!
        My colleagues and students were always amazed at me, how I, having no real import circuits, and even our equipment, repaired everything, they gave them for repairs ...
        One correct answer - learn the THEORY, standard / classical circuitry, the element base of your time and ... you will be happy and the absence of circuits will not be an obstacle to repair, because ALL equipment is a set of STANDARD nodes used in one way or another and not much differing from manufacturers of the same level.
        What can interes represent for the enemy? Program, codes, algorithms of work .... i.e. nodes where all this is stored all this infa!
        Now, if she was stolen, tady OH !!!
  27. Olgovich
    Olgovich 8 December 2020 11: 33
    +2
    Built Glavkomat YuZN, early 1980s

    There were the appropriate kungs of the high command on conservation.

    The soldiers opened them for the sake of the equipment - there were Vega, Spidola, Radio engineering, tape recorders, all of the highest category, etc.
  28. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 8 December 2020 11: 37
    +2
    I applaud the intruders' resourcefulness and audacity. But at the same time, I strongly sympathize, if this is the business of the special services of our friends, then from a technical point of view, the work was done brilliantly. If this is the handiwork of poor strangers, then I sincerely regret their unenviable position. I am sure that they will now curse the day when this thought occurred to them. Maybe they will come themselves to confess, there are still no options. On my own behalf, I will add that under a strange coincidence, we also tried to open the department on the night after the installation of new windows. In the morning I noticed a fire bar in a half-open window. The funny thing is that the intruders entered through the fence with barbed wire and alarms, but as in the film, the "moonshiners" ended up in an even more guarded territory of a powder warehouse, once again fenced off and
    barbed wire. But this did not bother them: they climbed back and repeated the run. And everything is in the blind zone of the cameras. Then they decided to bring themselves in and began to open the window of the room with the old junk of non-ferrous metal, while in the neighboring "windows" there were computers and equipment worth hundreds of thousands, if not millions)))))
  29. APASUS
    APASUS 8 December 2020 11: 49
    +5
    Indeed, it is not very clear how the criminals were able to penetrate not only the territory of the airfield, but also the plane.

    Not just enter and remove the equipment, but also take it out of the protected area.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 8 December 2020 12: 54
      0
      It is clear that they were not aliens, they could not do without their own affairs. As they say, that I protect, I have.
  30. evgen1221
    evgen1221 8 December 2020 11: 51
    +10
    Another breakthrough, in the last 6 years there have been too many such sewerage breakthroughs in different places. But different experts will tear the button accordion that this is not a systemic crisis of the state, but if it is so easy to enter a top-secret board where the specialists flying on it stand like the country's GDP, and let's say an explosion package could have been put with satellite control - bang and there is no kp. Anything is possible with such protection of such boards, and no matter whether it was empty or full of equipment. Mess!!!
  31. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 8 December 2020 11: 52
    +2
    there will be consequences for the heads of the security service of the enterprise, for ordinary employees who were on duty that day,

    Are those days known? Most likely it will turn out as always: "Now I will sort it out properly and punish anyone. "
  32. Dimide
    Dimide 8 December 2020 11: 56
    -1
    Yes, no words, only interjections.
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 8 December 2020 12: 19
      0
      They write 39 radio station blocks and 5 more boards from the blocks of the same name were stolen.
      I wonder how long this dismantling takes?
      1. tank66
        tank66 8 December 2020 12: 34
        +4
        Never a radio operator. But. The only time in my life, in 87 years, I stole a payment from a CNC machine at the ZVI plant / former Mikhelson, where they shot at Lenin's grandfather / otherwise I could not get thyristors for color music. To remove the board — two seconds / literally /. At the factory, such a naughty got up the next day, decided to nafig such a c / music, they will find and punish. Threw it back, nothing happened ...
      2. your1970
        your1970 8 December 2020 12: 46
        +2
        Guess for yourself - if you rip out blocks with a crowbar? 15 minutes with smoke breaks ...
        But I think these are their own, factory ones .... "I put a gold piece and dumped it on the taxi driver!" (C) DU
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 8 December 2020 14: 48
          +2
          Either I am a stupid person, or everything in this world has turned upside down! The head of the aviation security service turns to the police ...
          Secret equipment is being removed from the strategic facility and no one has a snout. The hatches were sealed on November 26, and the violation of the seals was noticed only on December 4.
          In my time, a soldier for mentioning the not secret name of the equipment in a letter was put in the "washerwoman pose" that he pulled out his hair wherever possible! And here ...
          1. your1970
            your1970 9 December 2020 07: 17
            0
            Aviation....
            In general, I am surprised that they noticed that our sides were sealed with plasticine prints, so the fighters made casts from epoxy and pulled the clock. Guess - the print swam from the heat, or because a shitty copy of the print was spanked, yeah ...
            Chipboard and chipboard on the hat were received immediately, but we must pay tribute - almost all the clocks and blocks were found
            90s ....
            And the blocks from the plant were most likely flooded with precious metals - first they stole and then depicted theft ...
  33. Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 8 December 2020 12: 15
    -2
    The first answer and immediately whining about money, it is useful to drive the urbo drones through the camps, especially Moscow time, otherwise you can't cook porridge with you.
  34. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 8 December 2020 12: 19
    +3
    Hmm ... and funny, and I want to cry from this news. lol sad
    Apparently, the guards will not have to answer - she was not there. It comes out in a super-secret facility, you can even arrange a party with blackjack and indecent women, even take it away for scrap.
    Well "early" noticed, otherwise they could even twist the toilet bowls and cut off the cables, not like appliances !!!
  35. bar
    bar 8 December 2020 12: 44
    +1
    The theft became known after, as it turned out on December 4, the head of the aviation security service of TANTK im. Beriev. He also reported the missing equipment.

    State secrets are now guarded by the VOKHR, and the police will deal with the capture of the foe and the search for the kidnapped person ??? But... recourse
    Is the FSB no longer in business, or have they been optimized?
  36. Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 December 2020 12: 50
    0
    It doesn't matter who did it and why, if for espionage purposes, then the responsibility will grow significantly, I'm wondering, but how could this even happen? Then someone started talking about the salaries of the security guards, but that there were no other planes there, but this one came to hand? And shouldn't a plane of such purpose, in addition to the usual security, be guarded by specialists? It's all strange
  37. Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 December 2020 12: 58
    0
    Guard under guard, leadership in position, counterintelligence team "face", cops look at the points of reception of all metal goods. Oh, not that the funerals robbed. Oh, not that.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 December 2020 13: 55
      0
      I think that it is useless to search for the points of reception, after all, 8 days have passed since the Il 80 was sealed on November 26 and the last time they checked the loss on December 4.
  38. Bourgeois 1963
    Bourgeois 1963 8 December 2020 13: 06
    +3
    When I served in the army, a soldier from a neighboring border detachment raked a radioactive tablet of the emitter of the security system in order to remove the gilded plate from there. From the plate, he made a demobilization substrate for the Komsomol badge. Tablet filler was scattered around the outpost. The Komsomolets did not live to see demobilization. At our outpost, one enterprising soldier tried to get silver from batteries for a walkie-talkie. A couple of times I watched him manipulate the blowtorch, I don't know whether he succeeded or not.
  39. Radikal
    Radikal 8 December 2020 13: 08
    0
    Quote: YOUR
    Written by the transport police. Those. about nothing. Stolen well, okay.
    Such cases show the state of the state machine.
    In the propaganda messages, everything is fine - new weapons are being tested, exercises are being conducted, parades are skating. And behind the facade there are such stories. There is rottenness behind the beautiful scenery in matters of defense. However, this is the case with Putin in everything - medicine, education, economics. One has only to look behind the front curtain.

    yes yes yes Exactly! Respect! good hi
    1. your1970
      your1970 9 December 2020 08: 48
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      Quote: YOUR
      Written by the transport police. Those. about nothing. Stolen well, okay.
      Such cases show the state of the state machine.
      In the propaganda messages, everything is fine - new weapons are being tested, exercises are being conducted, parades are skating. And behind the facade there are such stories. There is rottenness behind the beautiful scenery in matters of defense. However, this is the case with Putin in everything - medicine, education, economics. One has only to look behind the front curtain.

      yes yes yes Exactly! Respect! good hi

      Quote: Bourgeois 1963
      When I served in the army, a soldier from a neighboring border detachment raked a radioactive tablet of the emitter of the security system in order to remove the gilded plate from there. From the plate he made a demobilized substrate for Komsomol icon.
      - in USSR also the system was rotten? Once they stole from border security systems, which type was on the lock ???!
      In 1988, in Kushka, in the D-1 division, the steol was completely drained and distilled into alcohol by the fighters, and in ReADN they rested with 6 Grads of AKB
      We arrive in the park in the morning, and the barrels of the howitzers went down ... And there was no excess steel ...
      So far, this regiment has been in almost half of the artillery for more than a month.
      On the border ... With Afghanistan ... From which the troops have already withdrawn almost ...
      1. mmaxx
        mmaxx 10 December 2020 06: 58
        0
        So knowing all this in all your life, now you understand Stalin's laws with understanding. First, we pick everything we see, then we curse the authorities. Although they themselves would have done otherwise.
        1. your1970
          your1970 10 December 2020 09: 44
          0
          And you read them for interest - the Stalinist Criminal Code, especially criminal articles ... Ordinary traffic cops would be given up to 2 years on it just simply and without confiscations .. But the head of the ROVD from 2 to the tower
          1. mmaxx
            mmaxx 10 December 2020 11: 10
            0
            It just becomes completely clear what and where it came from.
  40. exo
    exo 8 December 2020 13: 30
    +4
    I have no words! I can see how carefully regular airports are guarded. I myself go through security checks when entering and leaving work. Moreover, the constant tightening of the regime. And here: the most secret planes are standing and such a mess. After all, there is the A-100, they are talking about; Tu-142 and modernized A-50.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 December 2020 14: 13
      +2
      So yes, these guys could, before the IL-80 encircled the A 50, and the A 100, they could just “snag” the blocks of the I / O system board with circuitry and components.
  41. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 8 December 2020 13: 37
    0
    Sealed, but forgot to close and block? And they weren't properly guarded. This is called "criminal negligence"
  42. Undecim
    Undecim 8 December 2020 13: 48
    +5
    The Il-80 aircraft, nicknamed in the West as the “Doomsday plane,” is in fact an air command post that can be used by the country's leadership and the highest military command in the event of a large-scale armed conflict.
    And this plane, which the country's leadership uses in resolving conflicts of the level of a world thermonuclear war, is robbed "ordinary metal pickers". Even if these thieves and "not ordinary" - this is an extraordinary case.
    I propose to urgently take an inventory of thermonuclear warheads.
  43. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 8 December 2020 14: 59
    +2
    Back in the late 90s, I was honored to read a story "relevant" for that time ... And now I think: But only that time? So ... "I went to the market one Saturday. There are a lot of people ... everyone sells and buys something ... A foreign citizen comes up to me. bully and asks: "What to sell? What state secret? I looked around and see ... Mariman in a sweatshirt thrown over his tunic sells blueprints for a submarine ... a professor-looking citizen with a goatee - a flash drive with the secrets of the latest thermonuclear bomb ... three non-drunken hard workers in overalls - a couple of the latest grenade launchers ... in general, there were enough sellers of state secrets! I turned to the foreigner and said: I am selling my Motherland! - replied the foreigner. I looked him straight in the eyes and said firmly: Homeland is the most precious thing we have left! hi
    1. O. Bender
      O. Bender 8 December 2020 17: 16
      +1
      laughing They made me laugh, I forgot an anecdote.
  44. Turist1996
    Turist1996 8 December 2020 15: 31
    +1
    It seems to me that this VKP should be not just a protected object, but a specially protected object of high importance. He is a carrier of top-secret communications and control facilities, in terms of the level of secrecy in no way lower than the General Staff! It should be guarded around the clock (well, if you think so) by special units, including the time it is under repair. Moreover, in Taganrog - consider, in the neighborhood of Ukraine, which is very "friendly" to us now ..
    Negligence on the verge of treason!
  45. Looking for
    Looking for 8 December 2020 16: 13
    0
    became a laughing stock for the whole world !!!!
  46. O. Bender
    O. Bender 8 December 2020 17: 13
    0
    A security guard with a salary of 12130, most likely no more, and in the category over 60 ....., or maybe that was not, he is sealed and okay, not even under CCTV cameras. Xs, as it was. But the case is egregious.
  47. fa2998
    fa2998 8 December 2020 17: 40
    +1
    Quote: Temples
    You need to protect.

    This is a cant of the FSB. Such an aircraft, for specific tasks should be guarded by the security services, and not by the security service of the enterprise, and not by the transport police it is necessary to run, in the USSR the KGB was in charge of such matters. And I think the FSB or the General Staff should have their own power, and not give state secrets into the wrong hands. hi hi
  48. donavi49
    donavi49 8 December 2020 17: 52
    +4
    By the way, for those who wish all posts, camera coverage was leaked in the procurement documentation. Security cost 24 million rubles a year.


    In tweets, they openly laugh at the situation, even on VO and a patriotic cart.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 December 2020 21: 55
      0
      How could the whole airfield and the guards themselves not be stolen with such protection?
    2. Vladimir247
      Vladimir247 9 December 2020 07: 07
      0
      Everything turned upside down.
      ----------
      It's been like that for a long time. Ever since the "Dargye Rasiyane" ran to vote for Eltsin. And for twenty years they have been voting for Putin. The flowers have already faded for a long time, now the berries are starting to ripen ...
      Glory to Putin! Poets line up. laughing
  49. Gogi shapiro
    Gogi shapiro 8 December 2020 18: 26
    0
    and WHAT was for this to them under grandfather Stalin ???? And it serves it right !!!!!
  50. svoit
    svoit 8 December 2020 19: 10
    0
    Quote: Avior
    someone stole a radio on which you need to give a command to launch missiles.

    Probably everything is simpler here, "C" and "SS" equipment with documentation was removed (and disposed of, if necessary) back in the military unit where the aircraft was assigned, the rest was already written off on the spot, but they did not have time to dispose of it, they stole it earlier.