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Data on the use of the latest attack drones during tests in Syria confirmed

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Data on the use of the latest attack drones during tests in Syria confirmed

Russia is expanding the capabilities of its unmanned aviation... The information that the newest attack drones created by the Kalashnikov concern have been tested in the Syrian Arab Republic has been confirmed.


The exact format in which the UAVs were used is indirectly indicated by the fact that we are talking about drones, which are usually called "kamikaze". These are "Lancet" and "CUB-UAV", which can be controlled remotely and, when a specific target is detected, attack it from the air. In this case, the payload (warhead) of the aforementioned "KUB-UAV" and "Lancet-3" is 3 kg - a sufficient charge to destroy various types of enemy equipment, including, for example, MLRS or armored vehicles.

Rostec notes that kamikaze drones are capable of speeds up to 130 km / h. Earlier it was reported a maximum speed of 110 km / h. In this case, the target is hit, even if the enemy attempted to disguise it.

The developer notes that the Lancet-3 UAV has a television guidance channel, and determines the coordinates of the target without the help of satellite navigation, which makes its use actual in the event of an attempt by the enemy to jam the satellite navigation signal.

The targets of the same "Lancet" can be both ground and surface.

"Lancet-3" resembles ammunition with a double X-shaped tail and propeller. This plumage allows for maneuvering.

Recall that some time ago in Syria, the Russian Aerospace Forces launched a series of attacks on clusters of militants and their infrastructure in the province of Idlib. It can be assumed that the drones mentioned were used together with combat aircraft.

A video of the concern from 2019, which demonstrates the results of using this kind of drones during tests:

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  1. Finches
    Finches 8 December 2020 07: 19
    +12
    Langley will now read this article on VO and will immediately give the command to their friends from ISIS (an organization banned in Russia) to communicate with a Russian drone for study! laughing

    And so the topic is sensible - where, if not in Syria, military equipment to test! This is not a training ground already!
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 8 December 2020 07: 47
      -13%
      Well, if in Taganrog on board the doomsday, the air command post steals the secret stuffing, then in Syria it turns out safer, as it were.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 8 December 2020 09: 09
        +1
        Is not a fact. They shoot in Syria.
      2. AbacUssR
        AbacUssR 8 December 2020 09: 16
        +15
        muddy story about stolen. And as for the stamped blocks, they are still removed from the plane that is on long-term work.
      3. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 8 December 2020 12: 37
        +1
        there, rather, the filling that should have been recycled, someone decided to covet the color.
        1. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 9 December 2020 16: 16
          0
          rather on drag. meth, not color. meth
          1. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov 9 December 2020 16: 51
            +1
            well, they'll go to prison for another article in the end ..
      4. Yellow bubble
        Yellow bubble 11 December 2020 11: 08
        0
        The Ministry of Defense would never let information leak in life, theft is someone's performance.
    2. Civil
      Civil 8 December 2020 07: 49
      -3
      That's better, but you need even simpler and cheaper, I launched several pieces and they "hang" nearby until they are needed. No flashes, no startup sounds. And you also need, like the Chinese and the Americans, drones the size of a sparrow or a dragonfly, in order to go into a trench, into a bunker and other protective structures.
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 8 December 2020 08: 33
      +18
      Quote: Finches
      will give the command to their friends from ISIS (an organization banned in Russia) to communicate with a Russian drone for study!

      Really? belay There, the other day there was an article with the assertion that Russia lagged behind the "foreigners" for 25 years ... What kind of "experience" did the damned bourgeoisie decide to gain by studying the "backward" eroplanes? recourse
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 8 December 2020 08: 48
        +14
        the payload (warhead) of the aforementioned "KUB-UAV" and "Lancet-3" is 3 kg - a sufficient charge to destroy various types of enemy equipment, including, for example, MLRS or armored vehicles.


        Still, I would not have hit, with 3 kg of explosives (although, for an accurate assessment, you need to know the nature of the warhead of the projectile - high-explosive, high-explosive fragmentation, cumulative) ...

        Known for its use since 1943 in WWII, the Soviet cumulative anti-tank aerial bomb PTAB-2,5-1,5 had a charge of only 0,620 kg of explosives, and the tank, for example, meeting with it, did not bode well ...

        PTAB-2,5-1,5

        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 8 December 2020 15: 06
          +2
          And it will be "prettier"!
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 9 December 2020 11: 19
            +4
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            And it will be "prettier"!

            Well, so is the age difference, between them - decades, which in the world of weapons, consider the era.

            And be that as it may, and the designer of PTAB, I.A.Larionov, in January 1944, was awarded the Order of Lenin for the development of a bomb and a fuse for it, and in 1946 he was awarded the title of a Stalin Prize laureate.
    4. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 8 December 2020 08: 42
      0
      Here kummunizd or not communizd ... Two facts are important:
      1. He is
      2. It is produced serially.


      Moreover, the Russian Federation is here in the role of a catch-up
      1. Imobile
        Imobile 8 December 2020 09: 09
        -26%
        The news does not inspire confidence without personnel from Syria. As soon as they appear, then we can safely say that we have drones
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 8 December 2020 09: 18
          -9
          And in quantity, as the Azerbaijanis did
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 8 December 2020 11: 21
            +10
            The Azerbaijanis made Armenia out of what they bought! And we really did. The question is only about the production capacity. I hope there will be a plant that will work like Almaz Antei in three shifts! hi
            1. Boris Chernikov
              Boris Chernikov 8 December 2020 12: 41
              +1
              Well, the same Cube-UAV is in fact a Hall UAV with a parachute removed .. It is important what exactly you can put in there .. the camera is 500-600 grams .. 2,4 kg remains .. I hope they will guess not just the BB to stick, but cumulatively - a fragmentation warhead by analogy with NARs .. although who knows .. if you try, then there and warheads from RPG-7 pg7vl Ray will fit by weight, but by size ..
            2. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 9 December 2020 00: 11
              +1
              It does not matter. They are. And the RF needs to show it
        2. sir.jonn
          sir.jonn 8 December 2020 09: 33
          +6
          Quote: Imobile
          The news does not inspire confidence without personnel from Syria. As soon as they appear, then we can safely say that we have drones

          PR on YouTube is certainly interesting for us, sofa makers, but in terms of testing and adopting our army, it is not insignificant. And for potential buyers, there are probably videos with all the nuances not for the faint of heart.
        3. donavi49
          donavi49 8 December 2020 09: 45
          0
          There were murky footage from Syria. But there is no Lancet-3.



          The comments suggested that the Iranian who was copied / inspired from the same Hero.
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 8 December 2020 10: 42
            0
            Pants hit soldier
    5. da Vinci
      da Vinci 8 December 2020 09: 32
      -17%
      And what do they learn new? Copy the TV camera? Considering that there are spare parts from the "doomsday" plane in the Russian Federation, this fear is not worth the husk of the seeds.
    6. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 8 December 2020 12: 25
      +3
      Quote: Finches
      Langley will now read this article on VO and will immediately give the command to their friends from ISIS (an organization banned in Russia) to communicate with a Russian drone for study! laughing

      And so the topic is sensible - where, if not in Syria, military equipment to test! This is not a training ground already!


      Israeli Harpies have flown since 1990 ...
      30 years have passed since the introduction of the reusable kamikaze drone ...
    7. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 8 December 2020 12: 36
      -2
      yeah ... let them catch it straight
    8. Crabong
      Crabong 8 December 2020 22: 25
      -2
      They have nothing to study there.
  2. Andre___86
    Andre___86 8 December 2020 07: 22
    -30%
    Oh, how in time is the news. And then the patriots are worried that we have "no". Here you get it, calm down - there is, there is no truth in the troops, but that is))))))
    1. A009
      A009 8 December 2020 10: 16
      +10
      Is the word patriot a curse for you? Judging by the construction of the phrase
    2. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 10: 18
      -6
      What are the cons? Correctly says when there will be these kamikazes in the troops And then again we will shower everyone with hats
  3. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 8 December 2020 07: 23
    +8
    A wonderful thing ... on the battlefield.
    He brought it in, disguised it and wait for the target to appear, it would be nice to synchronize the control panel with the fighter's protected smartphone ... opened the application, pressed the button on the map where the target was, gave the command to start, and fly darling.
    We should bring this thing to the level of RPG-7 ... simple, convenient and effective ... in my opinion, the prospects for small homing ammunition are very exciting.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 8 December 2020 07: 50
      +31
      Well, in order to bring it to the level of RPG, it is necessary to develop children's circles of electronics and aircraft modeling, popularize the profession of an engineer, have our own inexpensive base of components, and education in general.
      1. Kart
        Kart 8 December 2020 08: 22
        +2
        See the Growth Point education project.
        Ask what kind of equipment is there, what directions, and how many are already open.
        Mugs from the end of the USSR with their plywood and glue are nervously smoking around the corner.
        1. stalki
          stalki 8 December 2020 09: 03
          +11
          See the Growth Point education project.
          Ask what kind of equipment is there, what directions, and how many are already open.
          Mugs from the end of the USSR with their plywood and glue are nervously smoking around the corner.
          Did plywood and glue matter there? In this case, education is the main component, but I would rather not say anything about the mass character of hobby groups and their availability in the Russian Federation. In addition, children in the USSR themselves fled to circles and their eyes were burning with interest, but now everyone does not care, especially their parents.
          1. Kart
            Kart 8 December 2020 09: 12
            +7
            Firstly, plywood and glue (which, by the way, were often not available, it was necessary to "get it") a little insufficient in the XXI century technologies. That is, they should be, but this is not the main thing.
            Secondly, the growth points are precisely in schools. Not somewhere out there, in the Houses of Pioneers, where the child will go after school or not is a big question. And right next to it, on the next floor. That is, the mass character is maximal.
            And thirdly, you would see how their eyes light up when their own hand-designed and assembled robots ride, copters fly, and all this obeys commands from their smartphone.
            They are far from giving a damn.
            Moreover, now the fate of their work is not a dusty shelf of a circle in the house of pioneers, but an opportunity to declare and show themselves to many.
            The returns and incentives are very different.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 8 December 2020 09: 35
              0
              And let's face it - such mugs are not suitable for everyone. Not to mention the fact that their organization is not very simple and, in theory, costs good money.
              1. Kart
                Kart 8 December 2020 09: 39
                +7
                I personally launched the Growth Points.
                I inform you that they cost so much money that provincial schools never dreamed of.
                The composition of the equipment is such that schoolchildren have their mouths open from goofing.
                And mugs, yes, always at all times were not suitable for everyone.
                But they can teach everyone to navigate the technologies of the XXI century for sure.
                True, everything, as always, depends on the teacher.

                Oh yeah, I forgot to add the main thing - all this is ABSOLUTELY FREE for students.
                The state pays for everything according to individual certificates for additional education for all interested children.
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 8 December 2020 10: 39
                  +2
                  I inform you that they cost so much money that provincial schools never dreamed of.
                  The composition of the equipment is such that schoolchildren have their mouths open from goofing.

                  Well, yes, it's just not just the equipment. It's also about
                  True, everything, as always, depends on the teacher.

                  This is just about the difficulty. In principle, finding a person capable and willing to work with children is not easy. And here you also need a person who is somewhat technically competent ...
                  I am already silent about the fact that this equipment needs to be updated over time, and people working there should be kept somehow and taught ...
                  This is a very difficult undertaking and to do it with high quality and with mass coverage is oh, how difficult it is.
                  And the most interesting thing is that all robotics there is just one facet of what is needed for the development of engineering disciplines ...
            2. stalki
              stalki 8 December 2020 11: 44
              +5
              You have absolutely no idea what potential the children of the Union had and in what mass for the country. And believe me, there was enough plywood and everything was enough for the development of the child. You are hooked on single options and push them as a panacea, and I'm talking about the result in fact and the popularization of these directions for children. So in the USSR there were no problems with circles, their provision, the motivation of children and parents, as well as with the ideological potential and the prospect of its return for the good of the country. And today, the state does not directly participate in the development and upbringing of a child, and parents (most of them) do not have motivation themselves and cannot pass it on to their children. Well, I will not say anything about the financial part of the question. Not every DTU and not every secondary school have a proper financial and material base. Previously, teachers were able to grow talents for one idea, but now there are few of them.
              1. tasha
                tasha 8 December 2020 11: 56
                +1
                Now the network of children's technoparks "Quantorium" is expanding and operating. Believe me, the kids are busy.
                And believe me there was enough plywood and everything was enough
                Alas, this is not the case. No plywood, no fuel for engines, no files for jigsaws ... Siberia, rural school, 80s.
                1. stalki
                  stalki 8 December 2020 12: 03
                  +3
                  Well, I'm not from the periphery, so here I understand that in rural schools there was other support, or maybe it was not at all. But I’m not talking about this, about motivation and popularity. For the approach with interest, with which both teachers and children worked. Now this is not enough, I see that the children themselves. If I hadn't motivated them, no one would have done it. The state is now separate. Yes, there are programs, there are development centers, but there is no "kick in the ass to parents" from the state, everything is on its own. This is sad. This is necessary, believe me.
                  1. tasha
                    tasha 8 December 2020 12: 08
                    0
                    Sergey, I cannot understand your logic. Do you need a "magic pendel from the state" in order to properly educate your children? And all these centers, all these programs - where did they come from? Yes, with problems, but it is being done ...
                    1. stalki
                      stalki 8 December 2020 12: 21
                      +2
                      I do not, and you do not, do not need. But many need it, I see it with my own eyes. It is necessary either to raise the level of development of the country as a whole, as it was under the Union, and then it will not be needed, or to give a penny. That at this point in time may be more effective. Now it is clear?
                      1. tasha
                        tasha 8 December 2020 12: 41
                        -1
                        Now you understand?

                        Fair? Unclear. I read your comments to the article and did not catch the main idea. "The state should kick parents so that parents raise their children well"?
                      2. stalki
                        stalki 8 December 2020 12: 51
                        +2
                        Can you think figuratively? Can you compare the socialist-oriented consciousness and the democratically-oriented one? Are you able to analyze the value content of a person in the Union and in modern Russia? If not, then it will be difficult for me to reveal my point of view to you, and for me to understand you.
                      3. tasha
                        tasha 8 December 2020 12: 53
                        0
                        Well, that's it, we've arrived ... Sergey, let's finish this. An article about UAVs, let's not spoil it and disperse without offense. Good? Then something else about something else. With a good conversationalist, the topic doesn't matter :)
                        Sincerely ...
                      4. stalki
                        stalki 8 December 2020 13: 01
                        +3
                        And I'm not offended, believe me. I have met so many people of your vector of thinking that I understand you here. I'm from a slightly different era. I did not understand my grandfather, his views before. And then, when the semblance of maturity appeared, the vision changed. It was frankly a nose to his own, well, you hope you understand. I was lucky in this regard, I saw a bygone era and see a modern state and can fully objectively compare, and in the smallest detail. Yours faithfully hi
                      5. tasha
                        tasha 8 December 2020 13: 08
                        -3
                        "I saw a bygone era and I see a modern state" - how do you know what I saw and see?
                        "I can fully objectively compare" - why did you decide that I cannot fully and objectively compare?
                        Sincerely ...
                      6. stalki
                        stalki 8 December 2020 13: 15
                        +1
                        Cause. Your questions. Just do not think that I have a bad opinion of you. You can approach this issue objectively, just let me assume that you didn't need it before.
                      7. tasha
                        tasha 8 December 2020 13: 18
                        -2
                        You can approach this issue objectively, just let me assume that you didn't need it before.
                        What question, what are the needs, Sergei? Please be more specific.
                      8. stalki
                        stalki 8 December 2020 13: 24
                        +2
                        Much more specific. The question of who is a person of the Soviet era and what is the Soviet system of education. If you think that now, in this direction, it is better, then I close the topic for conversation.
                      9. tasha
                        tasha 8 December 2020 13: 25
                        -1
                        "Sergei, let's end this. An article about UAVs, let's not spoil it and disperse without offense. Okay?"
                      10. stalki
                        stalki 8 December 2020 13: 34
                        +1
                        Yes, indeed, I have taken away from the topic, maybe a warning will fly in, sorry. Once again with respect hi
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 8 December 2020 14: 12
        +1
        "The state should kick parents so that parents raise their children well"?

        But I will support Sergei, although your presentation of his position looks somewhat grotesque. Point circles or whatever technopark-centers-development. This is certainly excellent and important, but there must also be an atmosphere that would stimulate this development. Most children should be involved in non-class activities. Schools should promote this, advertise existing options among children, help them find the right one for them. Yes, I agree, as a parent, conscientious parents, given a certain resource of money and time, can cope with it themselves .. or they may not. This should not be entirely on the conscience of the parents ..
      3. tasha
        tasha 8 December 2020 15: 13
        -2
        Alexander, teachers are knocked off their feet, attracting children to various events and different "non-class activities". Olympiads, circles, competitions and sections. There would be a desire ... Yes, with the current restrictions, not everything works out.
  • bukhach
    bukhach 8 December 2020 19: 37
    +1
    Not just a few, there are practically none left, the market rules the show.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 8 December 2020 09: 05
    -6
    Yes, yes, they smoke so nervously that money is also collected from their parents for various materials provided free of charge by the state and for a club guide.
    1. Kart
      Kart 8 December 2020 09: 18
      +8
      In my time, the USSR was also collected - what a miracle! Only not money, but what they managed to steal from their parents' jobs.
      The aircraft modeling circle generally only held on to this - plywood, polystyrene, nitro paints, ether for fuel, copper pipes, solder, tin - they dragged what they could.
      The only thing that was there from the state was the workbenches of the 1st World War, a cabinet of about the same period, a drilling machine, and jigsaws, screwdrivers, hammers. The electric drill was already the teacher's personal.
      The radio amateur circle is generally a separate song. We were lucky, there was the coolest military unit nearby, and the head of the circle was a former military just from there.
      Therefore, we had everything that is found in spare parts from military equipment. Sometimes very exotic.
      1. stalki
        stalki 8 December 2020 11: 54
        +2
        I don’t know, there were circles in my school and the Trudovik did not demand anything from us, everything was there. An ordinary school and enough materials (the exception is the 90s), it is clear that we were not taught to assemble a TV set, but we gave out boats and airplanes, and most of the class. I myself worked in the education system and saw everything from the inside both as a student and as a teacher. I know Methodists and teachers who did not steal anything, it made no sense that it was necessary to give out the Chefs. Furniture factories, electrical factories, paint and varnish production. Nobody stole anything.
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 8 December 2020 12: 30
        +1
        Quote: Carte
        In my time, the USSR was also collected - what a miracle! Only not money, but what they managed to steal from their parents' jobs.
        The aircraft modeling circle generally only held on to this - plywood, polystyrene, nitro paints, ether for fuel, copper pipes, solder, tin - they dragged what they could.
        The only thing that was there from the state was the workbenches of the 1st World War, a cabinet of about the same period, a drilling machine, and jigsaws, screwdrivers, hammers. The electric drill was already the teacher's personal.
        The radio amateur circle is generally a separate song. We were lucky, there was the coolest military unit nearby, and the head of the circle was a former military just from there.
        Therefore, we had everything that is found in spare parts from military equipment. Sometimes very exotic.

        ===
        out of luck for you. in our pioneer home, that was enough. it is another matter that there were more applicants than the possibilities of the circles. often it was necessary to go where the space was vacated.
  • Boris Chernikov
    Boris Chernikov 8 December 2020 12: 42
    -4
    you need to expand the additional production line and that's it + the line of electric motors
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 8 December 2020 08: 49
    -1
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    to bring this thing to the level of RPG-7 ... simple, convenient and effective ... in my opinion the prospects for small homing ammunition are very exciting.

    Duc, there are already "dronomes"! I mean, mini-UAVs fired from a bazooka! tongue
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 8 December 2020 07: 33
    +4
    The thing is necessary, but the enthusiasm around the UAV is too exaggerated. A normal army will not allow itself to be driven by screw drones - there is air defense. And it is expensive to drive barmaleevs with them. In short, the weapon has a narrow niche of use. But it does. In some cases irreplaceable, DRGs for example - must evaluate
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 8 December 2020 07: 39
      +7
      DRGs for example - should evaluate

      I agree ... in a situation where it is difficult to get close to the target and it is extremely necessary to destroy it, the kamikaze ammunition is ideal.
      The Houthis would be given to be tested in combat conditions ... so they will find use for such tricks by breaking into the strongholds of the Saudis.
      1. Profiler
        Profiler 9 December 2020 08: 09
        +1
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        The Houthis would be given to be tested in combat conditions ... so they will find use for such tricks by breaking into the strongholds of the Saudis.

        The Houthis have been using Iranian devices of a similar purpose for a long time and successfully.
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 8 December 2020 09: 03
      +1
      Quote: Cowbra
      The thing is necessary, but the enthusiasm around the UAV is too exaggerated. A normal army will not allow itself to be driven by screw drones - there is air defense. And it is expensive to drive barmaleevs with them. In short, the weapon has a narrow niche of use. But it does. In some cases irreplaceable, DRGs for example - must evaluate

      Back in the 80s. of the last century, UAVs were considered as an element of a reconnaissance and strike complex, responsible for finding and illuminating a target - this is a niche, yes. And the reconnaissance groups do not need such "joy" - the burden is superfluous, and the detection of the UAV by the enemy will give the group instantly, is it necessary?
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 8 December 2020 09: 07
        +5
        It is much safer and easier to overwhelm the Mossad man with such a cube than to be smart with a traffic light and shoot at the car point-blank. The cube and the armored wheelbarrow will open, but here the armored one could well be
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 8 December 2020 15: 43
          0
          Quote: Cowbra
          It is much safer and easier to overwhelm the Mossad man with such a cube than to be smart with a traffic light and shoot at the car point-blank. The cube and the armored wheelbarrow will open, but here the armored one could well be

          Well, this is no longer an army theme.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 8 December 2020 18: 36
            -1
            Christmas trees-sticks, army - mobile launchers of the Strategic Missile Forces so gouge. Now there is also a means for loitering drones in any way
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 8 December 2020 19: 28
              0
              Quote: Cowbra
              Christmas trees-sticks, army - mobile launchers of the Strategic Missile Forces so gouge. Now there is also a means for loitering drones in any way

              You are damp in the subject. But maybe I'm outdated too. In Soviet times, mobile launchers were also pushed through, but then there was no place for the UAV there. And so far - nothing new.
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    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 8 December 2020 19: 44
      +2
      "There is air defense" ///
      ----
      These propeller-driven drones destroy air defense systems first.
      In Karabakh, modern air defense vehicles were seen running away in panic and hiding in sheds
      from propeller driven drones. They were hounded like bunnies.
      And how the electronic warfare systems were destroyed by drones.
      Karabakh is over, and the habitual suicide begins again:
      "normal army, weapons against the Papuans ..."
      1. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 10 December 2020 02: 07
        -2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        In Karabakh, modern air defense vehicles were seen running away in panic and hiding in sheds
        from propeller driven drones.

        um .. so if guys in slippers in Yemen burn Abrams, then Abrams are useless trash that is destroyed first? belay
        It does not seem to you that the example of Karabakh is a little inadequate, since the Armenians' equipment was a little off-standard, and was not used regularly and was controlled by the militia.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 10 December 2020 11: 30
          +3
          "Armenians had a bit of a non-standard technique" ///
          ----
          The most reference. T-72, BMP, Grad, Tornado.
          The same that forms the basis of the Russian army.
          So, it's time to remove the pink curtains from the windows.
          And CAPITALLY remodel the air defense.
          Until it's not too late.
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 12 December 2020 02: 06
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            The most reference. T-72, BMP, Grad, Tornado.
            The same that forms the basis of the Russian army.
            So, it's time to remove the pink curtains from the windows.

            ummm .. and the abrams who burn in Yemen and the patriots who missed the attack on the oil refinery are also in service with the US army. what to do then? belay
            did you read what i wrote?
            Quote: SanichSan
            the equipment of the Armenians was a little off-standard, and was not used routinely and was controlled by the militia.

            not? have not read? these are, to put it mildly, not "the same T72" which are in service with the Russian Federation. hails and tornadoes have done their job there, and the comparison of 3 tornadoes from the Karabakh militia with the RF Armed Forces is generally ridiculous wassat and the scale is incomparable and the tactics of use.
            Quote: voyaka uh
            And CAPITALLY remodel the air defense.
            Until it's not too late.

            whose? NKR? Well, they don't have the means for that. they scraped together with difficulty ...

            in short you are wandering yes what was in the NKR, neither in terms of technical level, nor in quantity, nor in the level of training of personnel, is not comparable with the RF Armed Forces. it's like comparing the Israeli armed forces with the Palestinians. Well, what, and there and there simits! wassat
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 8 December 2020 07: 37
    +4
    Then you need, say, "Lancet 10" with an explosive mass of at least 10 kilograms, capable of working against armored targets such as a tank. And, editors, a UAV is an unmanned strike aircraft, and you have one in the title, but in fact an article about drones is kamikaze! The difference is actually big! !! But, and thanks for that! hi
    1. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 08: 59
      0
      10 Lancet what well, in principle, yes 10kg as rpg 27 and rshg 1
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 8 December 2020 09: 29
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      Then you need, say, "Lancet 10" with an explosive mass of at least 10 kilograms, capable of working on armored targets such as a tank.

      For a tank and a pound is enough in a cumulative version
    3. Intruder
      Intruder 10 December 2020 22: 28
      -1
      editorial office, UAV is an unmanned strike aircraft,
      somebody can see the letter "U" !? :) and so: an unmanned aerial vehicle, you can still write a UAV, on the great and mighty! And drones are different, in purpose and design, loitering ammunition — these are all sorts of light "kamikazes", namely strike complexes, already (medium) high-altitude reusable UAVs, air carriers of all kinds of UAB and UR!
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 December 2020 07: 37
    +6
    Down and Out trouble started. Well, very small 1 and 3 kg of explosives ... more likely of sabotage - but unobtrusive and quite a "kamikaze" ... What units will they be armed with?
    They should be very effective against the "barmaley", with relatively little "collateral damage" ...
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 8 December 2020 07: 43
    0
    Recall that some time ago in Syria, the Russian Aerospace Forces launched a series of attacks on clusters of militants and their infrastructure in the province of Idlib. It can be assumed that in addition to combat aircraft, the aforementioned drones were also used.
    The title of the article states the use of drones in Syria, and the text only suggests fellow
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 8 December 2020 07: 48
      +1
      The title of the article states the use of drones in Syria, and the text only suggests
      I would like to watch videos from Syria on both sides for their application. what
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    3. Volodin
      Volodin 8 December 2020 07: 53
      +5
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      The title of the article states the use of drones in Syria, and the text only suggests

      And the title is approved, and the text is approved. And in the conclusion of the material it is assumed that these UAVs were used in the recent operation of the Aerospace Forces together with the use of manned aircraft.
  • Mishanya74_2
    Mishanya74_2 8 December 2020 07: 45
    -22%
    Apparently this is an analogue of those aircraft that were allowed on Khmeimim ... Quadrics with a strapped mine))
    Achievement for the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 8 December 2020 07: 54
      +3
      Achievement for the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation
      One such cheap quad destroyed an ammunition depot at a stadium in Syria ... in general, a small one, but it bitten very painfully, depriving Assad's fighters of ammunition. what
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 8 December 2020 07: 53
    -2
    An expensive bomb turns out.
    1. Escobar
      Escobar 8 December 2020 08: 39
      +2
      It depends on how you count, the enemy air defense complex destroyed by it can knock on many millions of aircraft
    2. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 10 December 2020 02: 11
      0
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      An expensive bomb turns out.

      justify? what's expensive?
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 8 December 2020 08: 00
    +7
    The article inspired optimism. Mass production will allow you to completely exterminate any rudiments of armed bandit formations. Syria is the place where Russia can regain the authority of an unquestioning referee and a reliable protector (ally), whose opinion will have to be reckoned with.
  • svp67
    svp67 8 December 2020 08: 10
    +4
    In this case, the target is hit, even if the enemy attempted to conceal it.
    This is not entirely clear, if the target is DETECTED, namely, that this does not happen and camouflage is applied, then where does it go, the main thing is that somewhere nearby this UAV would "wind circles" in the waiting area
    Rostec notes that kamikaze drones are capable of speeds up to 130 km / h. Earlier it was reported a maximum speed of 110 km / h.
    That is, your high-speed capabilities come to the fore in the struggle for life with this "kamikaze", you can reach a speed of 135 km / h and you can calmly sing: "You cannot catch up with us !!!"
    I don’t understand what prevents the installation of a rocket booster on such a UAV, for the final stage, then certainly few people will escape ...
    1. KCA
      KCA 8 December 2020 09: 12
      +3
      Well, yes, hostilities are usually conducted on the autobahns in Germany, there is not that 135 km / h, you can fire up all 300 km / h, have you ever moved over rough terrain at a speed of at least 40 km / h? In the Urals, KAMAZ or armored personnel carriers? If you do not grab the blood on the seat with your fingers, then the blood will flow from the crown
      1. svp67
        svp67 8 December 2020 09: 19
        +2
        Quote: KCA
        Have you ever traveled over rough terrain at a speed of at least 40 km / h?

        Yes, more than once. Somehow, modern armored vehicles allow you to move at such speeds, albeit on short sections, but yes, especially the T-80
        Quote: KCA
        In the Urals, KAMAZ or armored personnel carriers?

        And on them the same, including on ZiLs, and UAZs, but more on tanks and infantry fighting vehicles.
        Quote: KCA
        If you do not grab the blood on the seat with your fingers, then the blood will flow from the crown

        Well, everything depends on the driver ...
        And if you look at the same Karabakh conflict, then both sides did not fly so badly on public roads
        1. KCA
          KCA 8 December 2020 09: 33
          +2
          I am not a mechanic, the head of the radio station, the squad leader was, but I drove a lot of BTR-60 P-145 on my Chaika, in 92 there was a glove compartment in the army, I even almost turned the wheels upside down, as shown by flying tanks and so on, crap , there is no three-point seat belt in tanks and other equipment, as in rally cars, a small hole and flew headlong into the armor, out
          1. svp67
            svp67 8 December 2020 09: 35
            +1
            Quote: KCA
            there is no three-point seat belt in tanks and other equipment,

            But there are hands and the ability to group, which is developed during practical driving.
            1. KCA
              KCA 8 December 2020 09: 55
              +3
              Probably, I wrote that I was not a mechanic driver, but I also drove and drove through the fields, there were bumps on my head, what skills to group in 92, I was lucky then, I was in the state of emergency of North Ossetia and Ingushetia in the 131st Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade, personally saw the maps of the attack on Grozny, but for some reason they postponed it for two years, or even would not write here
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 8 December 2020 09: 37
          +4
          Up to 60-80, even 100 and?

          You still forget one small moment - the car is driving along the road. The road is not straight. The UAV or ammunition flies through the air and can build an optimal approach, cutting off the path.

          Well, 100 km / h is more than enough for this class of light ammunition. Harop is in a different category + he howls like a Stuck with Jericho trumpets at its peak. The same (like the subject of inspiration, the Hero series) - fly up almost silently. So you won't even have time to twitch before death.
          1. svp67
            svp67 8 December 2020 09: 49
            +2
            Quote: donavi49
            The road is not straight. The UAV or ammunition flies through the air and can build an optimal approach, cutting off the path.

            There is such a thing, but then the question immediately arises about the aiming sector of this UAV and the ability to maneuver, with what minimum radius it can do this, so that it does not slip through the maneuvering target before it is defeated, and of course how much fuel it will have, because this can happen that just falls before it hits
            There was an excellent video of how they hunted for KamAZ with the Armenian special forces, while he was moving along the road and he did it as quickly as possible, he was not hit, but as soon as he got up, covered with a tree, he was immediately hit by a UAV
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 8 December 2020 09: 54
              +3
              Fuel (or charge, usually small for electricity) is enough for 40 minutes from the official website. Hero has up to an hour at this rate.

              The target is held by an optical station (even in such small ones they hang a teplak, but how the Lancet is unclear). However, it is clear that there is a rotating stabilized station. That is, the teleautomaton will keep the target in the front hemisphere (or even something like 200-240 degrees) while the UAV maneuvers and catches up.

              They maneuver well. If there is no defeat, then they make a hill and a second run / circle for receiving new teams. Moreover, a gorse in automatic mode (for Hero and the Americans) if it does not work out to hit the target.
              1. Alexander Galaktionov
                Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 10: 01
                +2
                Lancent 3 has a greenhouse You can look at the target loads of the HALL UAV and there, like this kamikaze, the target load hi
          2. Alexander Galaktionov
            Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 10: 06
            +1
            Harop can be heard very much especially when donani49 dives you can watch the video there is a gray zone there is an interview with a fighter from Karabakh there is very interesting In general, such kamikazes who are waiting are heard very much like a harop, roughly speaking, like a mine flies one slighly and there are several seconds and they have no plumage aluminum? what I don’t remember exactly in Donbass they said that they were pouring mines, they weren’t even heard by the whistle
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 10 December 2020 22: 32
      -1
      for the terminal section of the trajectory, the price of such an accelerator and the curb weight of the UAV, which must be dragged in flight, interfere with the heap, and the decrease in the combat (payload) load and all the efficiency and characteristics (aerodynamics and avionics) of the drone as a whole already ...
  • gorunov
    gorunov 8 December 2020 08: 16
    -13%
    Looks like a dick
    1. Smirnoff
      Smirnoff 8 December 2020 08: 38
      +22
      This is how it should be.
      1. Kart
        Kart 8 December 2020 09: 52
        +8
        If it were Israeli or, at worst, Turkish, he would write only enthusiastic epithets with a breath and tears of emotion.
        And since ours is Russian, then we must immediately ironic up to the waist from below.
  • Escobar
    Escobar 8 December 2020 08: 36
    +4
    In my opinion, it is good to use such devices to hit key points in the enemy's defense, which cannot be reached without great losses, for example, air defense radars, equipment at airfields, so that it would be easier for your weight to break through in the future
  • Smirnoff
    Smirnoff 8 December 2020 08: 43
    +19
    The fact that we are developing such ammunition is beyond doubt. The question is, how effective are they? In any case, progress is evident.
  • Abdula
    Abdula 8 December 2020 08: 47
    -15%
    Well, in general, all over the world they are discussing the doomsday plane and not the Israeli repainted UAVs
    1. Kart
      Kart 8 December 2020 09: 53
      +10
      Well, that and go to the rest of the world. Discuss there with your own.
      Is that what you need?
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 10 December 2020 22: 35
      -1
      paint-stealth and modern design, also Russian developments :) and Israeli kits, well, so far only this is enough ...
  • Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 08: 53
    +5
    Lancet 3 warhead 3 kg norms so, slightly more powerful than rpg 26 So consider rpg 26 or rshg 2 flying good
  • Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 08: 57
    +2
    Here on the Gray Zone channel, the admin posted the video with the fighter of Artsakh, it is very interesting there and how they acted on the UAV if someone adds a video it will be good hi
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 December 2020 09: 57
    +2
    The video is short but impressive. Good luck to the designers and manufacturers.
  • Kart
    Kart 8 December 2020 10: 06
    +7
    I noticed that as soon as there was news about Russian UAVs, a round dance begins in the comments about "the value is greatly exaggerated", the inefficiency of the UAV, and so on.
    If we are talking about, for example, the Israeli ones, everything is exactly the opposite - the miracles of technology, we are 25 years behind, the oligarchs stole everything.
    And the same people write.
    Miracles and nothing more. Didn't the drugstore deliver this drugin?
    1. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 8 December 2020 10: 24
      +1
      The value of the UAV is greatly exaggerated)) Then even look at Iran and then I realized that UAVs are needed and they have drums for a long time, we seem to have it soon
    2. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 9 December 2020 09: 04
      0
      delivered. The Swedish mortality rate per million population is 30 times higher than the Japanese, both countries are unmeasured, but the Japanese density is eleven times higher than the Swedish in population and the duration of the epidemic is much longer. Most Japanese people never get sick in their entire lives. but they repost the Swedes. guess why)) we have already died 45 vietnam 000 without zeroes. and so the blah cost of 35 aircraft can throw the number of shots kka 10 aircraft current aircraft for 1 departures and these for 2. and the mass of warheads the aircraft will have 10 tons and these 10. and the price will also be the difference. drones are mainly used for reconnaissance and already arty. other PR. their influence is just exaggerated. they are) and no one whines that in the USSR there were blahs, but in here there are not even ours 0,5 years ago and more and less and all. but 50 drones are nothing. better than a hundred Iskander.
  • zwlad
    zwlad 8 December 2020 10: 37
    -1
    Wouldn't it be too fat to destroy the engine and electronics for each target?
    Can all the same use strike UAVs with planning ammunition?
  • APASUS
    APASUS 8 December 2020 11: 44
    +3
    I still wanted to see footage of tests in Syria
  • yfast
    yfast 8 December 2020 11: 55
    -3
    The UAV "Lancet-3" has a television guidance channel, and determines the coordinates of the target without the aid of satellite navigation, which makes its use actual in case of an attempt by the enemy to drown out the satellite navigation signal.

    I got lost and crashed my BMP. Would have done with satellite navigation, and the option is disabled.
    No, still summarize the theory under "unfinished, but very jam-resistant".
  • O. Bender
    O. Bender 8 December 2020 17: 35
    0
    Well, good luck! ”And then something became sad against the background of the latest events in Karabakh.
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 8 December 2020 19: 52
    +1
    You have to move faster, faster. We should shoot a dozen generals to speed up the work, otherwise we will drown in blood again ...
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 8 December 2020 20: 12
    +1
    It would have been necessary to send suicide drones to Syria about 5 years ago - when the enemy had more equipment. When the enemy was cutting through the desert in "carts", the "pilots" -drones would learn to "work on fast moving targets" ... (too many "would"). Better late than never.
    1. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 9 December 2020 09: 05
      0
      and! exactly so that they dispersed everything within a radius of 30 km for the same cost with bombs of 1 kg instead of 500))))))))))))))))))))))))))
  • kig
    kig 9 December 2020 14: 22
    +1
    Kalashnikov does not know how to advertise himself. The target approaches, a click - and a gray screen, and a potential buyer must conjecture that he is in the right place. Where is the shooting from the side, a diving kamikaze, an explosion and debris? Or maybe this connection was lost, the enemy turned on the electronic warfare.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 10 December 2020 22: 39
      -1
      The target approaches, a click - and a gray screen, and a potential buyer must conjecture that he is in the right place.
      Well done, the reassurance is on the face, but if you didn't hit it and the target remained visible, then the potential customer wouldn't like it anymore, otherwise you won't dig it! :) And competitors, too, need not give a reason ..