In Ukraine, they showed what weapons they "surprised" the Brazilians

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A Brazilian delegation, led by the South American country's deputy defense minister, Marcus Dega Rosas Pontis, visited Ukraine for the first dialogue between representatives of the defense industry of the two countries. After this visit, the emergence of joint projects in this area is possible.

Foreign guests visited the training ground of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and a military unit on December 4. They were accompanied by Ukrainian journalists



During the stay of the South American guests in Ukraine, they were shown the "latest samples" of the products of the local military industry. The Ukrainian reporters who were with them took photographs, which were described as a photo. weapons, "Which surprised the Brazilians."

The guests stayed in Ukraine from November 29 to December 5. In addition to high-ranking Brazilian officials, representatives of the 13 largest arms companies of this country discussed the prospects for cooperation with Ukraine.

The central event was a visit to the training ground, where the Brazilians were able to get acquainted with Ukrainian military products closer.
They were shown a mobile version of the Stugna ATGM, samples of small arms, radar, Drones, air defense systems, armored vehicles of private and state manufacturers of Ukraine.

In Ukraine, they showed what weapons they "surprised" the Brazilians

Among the new products was the UAR-15 assault rifle produced by the Ukrop company, with which the Ukrainian Armed Forces intend to replace Kalashnikov assault rifles. It is difficult to call it a purely Ukrainian product, because its barrel and firing mechanism were made in the USA.


Among other things, the Brazilians were "surprised" by the ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft gun, which was being developed back in the USSR.


Whether the Ukrainians managed to "seduce" foreign guests, perhaps, will be shown joint projects with Brazil and contracts for the acquisition of weapons made in Ukraine (if any).
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  1. +6
    6 December 2020 11: 25
    Apart from the ATGM, there is nothing to look at. Buy too ..
    1. +6
      6 December 2020 11: 33
      They have more prod. dry rations, probably there is even fat.
      1. 0
        6 December 2020 13: 00
        Lard in chocolate)
      2. +27
        6 December 2020 13: 15
        Lard is a purely Russian product. National product of the Little Russians. Borscht by the way too. Because Ukrainianity is not a nationality, but a destructive ideology.
        1. +1
          6 December 2020 20: 55
          Lard is a purely Russian product.

          Nowadays, Ukraine has run out of bacon, and it is being imported (who could have thought of this before!) From Poland. bully
    2. 0
      6 December 2020 11: 34
      In what children's world did you buy? laughing
    3. +2
      6 December 2020 12: 41
      Quote: Doccor18
      Apart from the ATGM, there is nothing to look at. Buy too ..

      You are not right. And the carts? See photo # 1.
      1. +4
        6 December 2020 13: 35
        What has the carts to do with it? Try to find real trotters in Ukraine! KRAZ and that ruined - they are going to ride the Tatras (for which they will get kickbacks immeasurably).
      2. 0
        6 December 2020 21: 27
        And in photo # 1, isn't it a quadra of the Chinese "stealth", which is produced in Russia under the brand name "Russian Motors" (RM)?
        1. +1
          7 December 2020 00: 29
          Quote: stock buildbat
          And in photo # 1, isn't it a quadra of the Chinese "stealth", which is produced in Russia under the brand name "Russian Motors" (RM)?

          He is. Chinese buggy. By the way, not bad.
    4. +6
      6 December 2020 13: 14
      Quote: Doccor18
      Apart from the ATGM, there is nothing to look at. Buy too ..

      404 comes to the state of somaliland gradually.
      wink
      malazis
      1. +2
        6 December 2020 15: 35
        Quote: Halpat
        malazis

        Brazilians, just at public expense, went to see the world, at the same time and laugh. Disney Land is resting. laughing
    5. +6
      6 December 2020 13: 36
      Quote: Doccor18
      Apart from the ATGM, there is nothing to look at.

      I liked the SAM ...
    6. 0
      6 December 2020 20: 43
      Quote: Doccor18
      Apart from the ATGM, there is nothing to look at. Buy too ..

      Why, mortar Hammer. You can dispose of the enemy, and for one and saboteurs
  2. +15
    6 December 2020 11: 29
    The outskirts are already Brazil, wants to throw? Well, twirling tails .. They live one day and hide behind Soviet developments
    1. +14
      6 December 2020 11: 43
      Hi Meehan, haven't shown up for a long time.
      About
      photos of weapons "which surprised the Brazilians"
      There is certainly something to be surprised at. It's the 21st century, and the Brazilians are shown with aplomb old weapons, an automatic rifle, the main components of which are made in the United States ... Interestingly, the Molot mortar was shown after the shooting? Before the show, the Brazilians were given rose-colored glasses.
      1. +8
        6 December 2020 12: 00
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Hi Meehan, haven't shown up for a long time.

        Hi Gennady! Yes, I'm here every day (today two nicknames were shot only))) fellow I decided without encryption (they will still be banned)))
        Quote: rotmistr60
        There is certainly something to be surprised at. It's the 21st century, and the Brazilians are shown with aplomb old weapons, an automatic rifle, the main components of which are made in the United States ... Interestingly, the Molot mortar was shown after the shooting? Before the show, the Brazilians were given rose-colored glasses.

        The outskirts are trying to play on former Soviet weapons, supposedly they are the same as Russia! Buy it is made in the USSR and Russia is helping us in this .. Someone is running and buys dyed bullshit heh Heh "brothers" you have disgraced the Soviet brotherhood .. God be your judge .. Flight debriefing will be required, everything is written soldier
        1. +1
          6 December 2020 15: 14
          Quote: Tankodrom
          Yes I am here every day

          Why not go out with an old familiar nickname? Everyone knows you anyway. Or the site rules do not allow?
      2. +1
        6 December 2020 13: 39
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Interestingly, the Hammer mortar was shown after the shooting?

        Better not after shooting, but to conduct visual tests of the Ento "Hammer". Although they say that now it has been renamed "Hammer".
      3. +2
        6 December 2020 13: 45
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Interestingly, the Hammer mortar was shown after the shooting?

    2. +5
      6 December 2020 12: 09
      I completely agree, they threw everyone they could. As the Gypsies began to sell, and there the grass does not grow.
      1. +8
        6 December 2020 13: 24
        Quote: Gunner
        I completely agree, they threw everyone they could. As the Gypsies began to sell, and there the grass does not grow.

        We hoped to live the same way .. But LONGS grow exponentially ..! Russia has already forgotten about their huge debts to us .. But the WEST begins to demand, give it back or pay with the blood of Donbass .. Zeln has already been put in his pants obviously! He thought he would scratch his tongue, but now they are pushing him into blood and Kolomoisky is no longer his friend ..
        Doooolzhek!
    3. 0
      6 December 2020 20: 59
      The outskirts are already Brazil, wants to throw? Well fiddly.

      Only in Brazil they do not yet know "how the Cossacks sell weapons." wink
      All who are closer are already in the know.
  3. +3
    6 December 2020 11: 29
    The Brazilian delegation, led by the Deputy Minister of Defense of this South American country, Marcus Degas Rosas Pontis, visited Ukraine
    The next Zulus - they need spear and arrowheads! laughing
    1. +2
      6 December 2020 11: 53
      Quote: aszzz888
      The Brazilian delegation, led by the Deputy Minister of Defense of this South American country, Marcus Degas Rosas Pontis, visited Ukraine
      The next Zulus - they need spear and arrowheads! laughing

      The exclusive right to supply tips from the UK, so Ukraine does not shine here No.
      laughing laughing laughing
    2. +8
      6 December 2020 12: 04
      Quote: aszzz888
      The next Zulus - they need spear and arrowheads!

      Well, Ukraine supplied Africa in the 90s with a stream of weapons, from the warehouses of the USSR .. There were supplies there for five years, surrounded in underground shelters .. Where is EVERYTHING? heh heh
    3. 0
      6 December 2020 21: 03
      The next Zulus - they need spear and arrowheads!

      The current Zulus are, oh, how difficult. wink
      Howitzer South Africa set a record for range and accuracy
      South African manufacturer of gun systems Denel Land Systems, together with the German company Rheinmetall Denel Munition, conducted demonstration firing at the Alcaptan range.
      The new M9703 V-LAP projectile hit the target at a distance of 76280 m, which is a possible record for the range and accuracy of fire for classic (conventional) artillery.
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  5. 0
    6 December 2020 11: 33
    They pulled out from the caches a Maxim of the USSR times, for the entourage, several crude modernizations of the Union's developments, and a couple of showstopers for the high-tech entourage on spare parts from aliexpress. Show must go it!
  6. +1
    6 December 2020 11: 34
    Chezh not shown branded weapons? Fresh development ...
    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201608300826-irn1.htm/player/
  7. -17
    6 December 2020 11: 36
    In the meantime ... The Ukrainian Defense Ministry will deploy battalions armed with the Neptune missile system in the southern regions of the country. The money for the purchase of weapons has already been found, the order is being formed, said the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Andriy Taran. The minister stressed that the necessary funds for the purchase are already available.
    "All the procedures were completed. In the near future, we will form an official order, tasks for the quantity and timing of their delivery," Taran said.
    According to him, the next stage should be the creation of a ship version of the Neptune complex.
    "The missile system will become a powerful instrument of deterring aggressive actions of the enemy at sea. Divisions armed with this complex will be deployed in the southern regions of Ukraine, which have access to the Black and Azov seas," the Minister of Defense emphasized.
    Neptune is a complex of ground-based cruise missiles with an anti-ship missile designed to destroy warships of all classes up to a cruiser in simple and difficult meteorological conditions at any time of the day or year, with active fire and electronic countermeasures by the enemy.
    The Neptune rocket has a mass of 870 kg, a warhead mass of 150 kg, a launch range of up to 280 km, a speed of about 900 km / h, and a flight height above the crest of waves from 3 to 10 m.

    Hats, I look forward to your "very" important comments on this, how far can you go in bravado and in your recklessness?
    1. -1
      6 December 2020 11: 41
      Neptune is a bumpy rocket that is easy to shoot down. So the news is nothing
      1. -19
        6 December 2020 11: 46
        here one room expert has already drawn, we are waiting for the next
        1. +5
          6 December 2020 14: 56
          Quote: _Oplot_
          here one room expert has already drawn, we are waiting for the next

          What is such a rocket "Neptune"? Which X-55 is Soviet? Then yes - one or two "divisions" may be scraped together, for which the old element base will be enough ...
          Otherwise, the production of 152mm shells has already been launched, it turned out to be zrada again ...
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    3. +3
      6 December 2020 11: 46
      Quote: _Oplot_
      Hats, I look forward to your "very" important comments on this, how far can you go in bravado and in your recklessness?

      Already gone far. You can assess the Ukrainian people in different ways (brotherly or not brotherly, this is a personal matter), but the fact that the regime there is nationalist and absolutely Russophobic is a fact. To laugh at how the Russophobic state is arming near the borders of our state, it's not stupid, it's criminal.
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    5. +7
      6 December 2020 11: 56
      The main thing is that they were more careful with the exercises, otherwise I still remember the Tu-154 shot down in 2001, just resting in Sochi ...
    6. +8
      6 December 2020 11: 57
      The Ukrainian Defense Ministry will deploy battalions armed with the Neptune missile system in the southern regions of the country. The money for the purchase of weapons has already been found, the order is being formed, said the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Andriy Taran. The minister stressed that the necessary funds for the purchase are already available.
      "All the procedures were completed. In the near future, we will form an official order, tasks for the quantity and timing of their delivery," Taran said.
      And that, the money has been found, nothing has been formed yet. Maybe they will cut the money and forget, maybe it will not work normally, maybe it will. And that everyone should be afraid of this news or start sprinkling ashes on their heads. Russia put the Bal and Iskander complexes in Crimea, all Ukraine should be in panic. Your comment is strange, for some reason it reminded me.


      1. +3
        6 December 2020 12: 10
        Quote: Pechkin
        For some reason it reminded me.

        That's just it. There are sabers. But Neptunov ... No winked
    7. +8
      6 December 2020 12: 03
      Quote: _Oplot_
      I am waiting for your "very" important comments

      Well, who said that everything will be quite simple. Neptune is stale recycled Uranus, a good thing but not a world wunderwolf. Actually, we are preparing to fight with NATO and the United States, so all that Ukraine can now militarily do is suddenly mess up and get a full blow.
      1. -14
        6 December 2020 12: 24
        wait a minute, in Russia practically all weapons are still Soviet, the X-35 missile is a Soviet missile in 1977, so what?
        1. +6
          6 December 2020 12: 33
          "And sho? ..." I hope that your delusion is sincere (and the X-35 was developed on the basis of the "Harpoon" in the late 80s and was finally put into service in the Russian Federation)
    8. +3
      6 December 2020 12: 40

      Hats, I look forward to your "very" important comments on this, how far can you go in bravado and in your recklessness?
      Let them do it first, and we'll see. Although something tells me that ours are ready for this, if suddenly. But it hasn’t happened yet. And it’s almost like ours, they scratch with their tongue, but in fact they’re zilch. Well, we have modernization and rearmament, at least with a delay. And there is nothing to brag about in Ukraine yet.
    9. +5
      6 December 2020 13: 34
      Quote: _Oplot_
      Hats, I look forward to your "very" important comments on this, how far can you go in bravado and in your recklessness?

      Let the Brazilians show it they will sign contracts for milliards without looking at once.
    10. +2
      6 December 2020 15: 12
      We renamed the old Soviet missiles and complexes, repainted and played the peremogue.

      Ukropland's air defense can only fight civilian liners.

      Flytradar will show.
  8. +5
    6 December 2020 11: 39
    Most likely under this case, the Brazilians, "surprised and ahaya" are trying to establish a market for the sale of products from Taurus ... bully
  9. +6
    6 December 2020 11: 40
    Selyuk beads lure the Indians laughing
  10. +4
    6 December 2020 11: 46
    Better to tell them how Ukroboronprom tried to sell the non-existent AN-178 aircraft to Peru. But the Peruvians saw through the deception in time. As it turned out later, the aircraft is still at the assembly stage.
  11. +4
    6 December 2020 12: 02
    On a return visit, the Brazilians will surprise the Ukrainians that the Brazilian technology drives on drinking alcohol made from corn. Everyone is happy!
    1. +4
      6 December 2020 12: 22
      Quote: tralflot1832
      On a return visit, the Brazilians will surprise the Ukrainians that the Brazilian technology drives on drinking alcohol made from corn. Everyone is happy!

      Yeah, try in Rio to enter the peak of the pendulum migration from, say, the Governor's Island or Duca de Caxias - this is a song - the effect is as if ten million bruises from a hangover were exhaled at once. laughing Ethanol is cheaper, of course, but it smells like a demon. At large gas stations, pistols in respirators work, otherwise by the end of the shift, intoxication is provided)))
    2. +1
      7 December 2020 03: 11
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Brazilian technology drives drinking alcohol

      Ukry modernize it. Fuel lines to the cab to the driver's seat and optionally to the passenger seat. For sugrev. wassat
  12. +3
    6 December 2020 12: 06
    I must say that the forelock neighbors are progressing. From tractors and "Luazov" with iron pieces, all over the body, to the artillery of the 70s, this is undoubtedly progress. Logically, we can expect a delegation from Burkina Faso. They will also "surprise" them.
    By the way! Hopak then, did you forget to dance in front of the guests? Before each delegation of white people, tribes of savages, they dance their national dances. Tradition ...
    1. +1
      6 December 2020 12: 12
      And then - a disco! Heavy Hans will spin two new discs ...
      1. 0
        7 December 2020 03: 17
        Quote: Cowbra
        Heavy Hans will spin two new discs

        Where will Hans get them? They have only tape-fed, that MG 34, that MG 42. It was in the USSR there were "gramophones" DP and DT.
  13. +5
    6 December 2020 12: 13
    I remember last year, when the non-brothers went to Brazil, they promised to buy a dozen Embrayers there (an analogue of their An-178, which they praise everywhere and woo everyone). Their promises to take seriously - not to respect themselves.
    Moreover, in Brazil, they have already "built" a spaceport, did the Brazilians think a little?
    1. +1
      6 December 2020 13: 28
      Promising and not doing is a national trait, chubatyh. True, then they will get out, lie, blame everyone and everything. But the opinion has already taken shape. I went through it myself. Taught by bitter experience.
      1. +1
        6 December 2020 15: 43
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Promising and not doing is a national trait, chubatyh. True, then they will get out, lie, blame everyone and everything. But the opinion has already taken shape. I went through it myself. Taught by bitter experience.

        Everyone and everything will not be.
        Russia is to blame :))
        Try blaming an American or a German? they immediately hit on the lips, on the hands, kick ass and hold the money ... but it is necessary ??
  14. +2
    6 December 2020 12: 21
    Trident, tachanka, ax ... Why, Brazil also has "separatists" and "genetic trash"?
  15. 0
    6 December 2020 12: 29
    let them buy their bestseller - Hammer
  16. -5
    6 December 2020 12: 29
    In the original article on Defense Express, there are three types of gunners, P-18 radar, a new version of "Kolchuga" CDT-360, tactical-level automated control system, anti-drones "Nota" complex, 4 types of UAVs, mobile mortar, several models of armored personnel carriers , SBA
    1. -2
      6 December 2020 15: 01
      Quote: Dimid
      three types of shooters

      All in a single copy ...
      Quote: Dimid
      Radar P-18, new version `` Kolchuga '' CDT-360, tactical level automated control system

      Electronics, probably, again from Chinese "intercoms"?
      Quote: Dimid
      anti-drones complex "Nota"

      Phew, otherwise I was scared that they brought object 477A.1 "Note" there)))))
    2. -3
      6 December 2020 16: 59
      Quote: Dimid
      In the original article on Defense Express, there are three types of gunners, P-18 radar, a new version of "Kolchuga" CDT-360, tactical-level automated control system, anti-drones "Nota" complex, 4 types of UAVs, mobile mortar, several models of armored personnel carriers , SBA

      it is not allowed in the article. Otherwise, the image will not be the same.
      Formation of the image should be as standard.
      Otherwise, God forbid, and positive comments will appear ...
      1. +1
        6 December 2020 17: 10
        Quote: Niel-le-Calais
        Otherwise, God forbid, and positive comments will appear ...

        Do not be afraid - they will not appear - after all the mischief with Antonov's products and the remarkable establishment of the production of 152 mm shells on "Turkish-American" equipment, after which the SBU is still figuring out who stole everything, there can be only one "positive" reaction - "I was tortured and that's good "...
  17. +3
    6 December 2020 12: 44
    Yes, the Brazilians have not seen such a thing yet, in the yard it seems like the 21st century, and they were shown something from the middle of the 20, and even in the form of homemade products at the garage level.
  18. 0
    6 December 2020 12: 45
    Well, the hammer was not shown in action, the Brazilians remained intact laughing
  19. +2
    6 December 2020 12: 49
    you "have already surprised the WORLD of" wunderwaffe ".... from which there is no salvation anywhere !!!
    laughing wassat
    1. +3
      6 December 2020 15: 03
      This prodigy has already been taken away from the SBU somewhere instead of with all the "documentation" ...
      After that, the "Dung regiment" is engaged exclusively in 3D modeling - they could not confiscate it so easily))))
  20. +2
    6 December 2020 13: 33
    There is a modern cartoon about Ukraine ..))))

    This is clearly an adult cartoon ...
  21. +1
    6 December 2020 13: 40
    Why weren't the Brazilians shown the famous Ukrainian mortar "Hammer"? This mortar is known for the fact that it usually kills mortar workers, not opponents. A very illustrative wunder-whale of the modern Ukrainian industry.
  22. 0
    6 December 2020 14: 39
    Brazilian blacks out of politeness looked down on the crafts of local aborigines, most likely trying to push EMBRAER stormtroopers to replace MiG-29s and transport aircraft instead of ANs.
  23. +2
    6 December 2020 14: 41
    Here are some samples of the "weapons" of the Armed Forces ...
    APU sniper pair
    APU "sniper pair".
    "self-propelled" DShK
    "Self-propelled" DShK from the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
    Coupled Maxim
    Coupled Maxim. Brazilians came to the Armed Forces of Ukraine instead of Disneyland ... In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a guest from Brazil will not only be fed, but also "given a drink" and taken to a bathhouse. Yes
  24. 0
    6 December 2020 15: 08
    Whether the Ukrainians managed to "seduce" foreign guests, perhaps, will be shown joint projects with Brazil.

    Strange, Brazil once again climbed on the Ukrainian rake. They have already tasted Ukrainian freebies once. Then there was a project to create a joint Alcantara cosmodrome in Brazil, to launch the Ukrainian Cyclone-4 missiles. As a result, the funds of the project were "sawed", and the project was quietly turned off.
    But, apparently, the channel for joint sawing the dough remained alive.
  25. 0
    6 December 2020 20: 36
    By the way, yes ... I wonder all the way that they begged Java for independent production of "stugna" .... but why?
  26. 0
    7 December 2020 01: 09
    Quote: Doccor18
    Apart from the ATGM, there is nothing to look at. Buy too ..

    Duc Brazilians did not come to buy, they were invited to negotiate about Super Toucans wassat
    which Banderlogy wants to buy and replace with toucans rooks