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Liqueur "Chassis" in the war - not at all tales of filmmakers

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When it comes to the Great Patriotic War, the media space usually talks about exploits, heroic episodes of defense and offensive, about those whose names have been heard for many years. But the fact that the Great Victory was forged not only by individual heroic deeds is also quite natural. Even what was considered an ordinary routine made a significant contribution to the common cause: someone stood at the machine in the rear, someone brought ammunition to the front line in "lorries" or carts, someone formed parcels for soldiers to the front.


A huge contribution to the approach of Victory was also played by servicemen, without whose labor there would be no feats of outstanding Soviet pilots, there would be no air rams, the destruction of columns of enemy equipment, headquarters and important infrastructure. it aviation techniques.

One of them was Sergei Malinin. Like many young men of that time, he dreamed of becoming a pilot. But fate decreed otherwise. He was preparing the Boston bombers for departure.

From the story:

I was drafted into the army voluntarily. Came on December 26, 42, to the military enlistment office. I say: just send the summons. If my mother finds out that I went voluntarily, she won't let me into the army ...

Sergei Malinin talks about servicing American bombers supplied to the USSR under lend-lease.

There was everything in the war ...

On the channel of Dmitry Puchkov, Sergei Petrovich's story about the "Chassi" liqueur, an alcohol-glycerin mixture, which was used at the "Bostons", is also presented.

By the way, this "liqueur" was also mentioned in Soviet cinema. Then some of the viewers thought that these were the stories of filmmakers. And "liquor" was a drink, to put it mildly, unhealthy. According to the recollections of the aircraft mechanic, among his colleagues there were also those who, after taking this mixture, at best ended up in a hospital bed, and at worst ... For most, these examples became a serious lesson for the future.

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  1. Nasrat
    Nasrat 24 November 2020 11: 23
    +3
    Admins, we all know how to use the Internet, why on the VO channel of Dmitry Puchkov?
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 24 November 2020 11: 28
      +2
      Quote: Nasr
      Admins, we all know how to use the Internet, why on the VO channel of Dmitry Puchkov?

      "Advertising Rights"? :)
  2. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 24 November 2020 11: 33
    +10
    And in our time, people drank recoillessness, tormozuha, BF-2 glue, smeared shoe polish on bread (after impregnation, the mob was cut off) and washed down with tea. And to sprinkle dichlorvos in beer is a sacred cause.
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 24 November 2020 11: 47
      +12
      They drink chlorophos and inhale gasoline
      Or run for the booze to the store,
      Or shake BF on a drill,
      Or moonshine persecuted authorities in vain.

      I remember "Boris Fyodorovich" ... It's terrible - a week afterwards you smell rubber all over the whole district ... But there is something to remember, young people do not understand ... Yes, there were times ..
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 24 November 2020 12: 08
        +7
        Quote: Crowe
        But there is something to remember, young people do not understand ... Yes, there were times ..

        Just what is left - remember, now "Boris Fedorovich" will cost more than "Napoleon".
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 November 2020 13: 49
        +3
        Quote: Crowe
        But there is something to remember, young people do not understand ..

        nothing to be proud of. And I don't think that young people need to understand the romance of dichlorvos zilivuh or the scent of the "moment". In addition to disgust in a normal person, this can cause nothing. We even in the "driest" times did not sink to such idiotism.
        Yes, there were times ..

        Fuck these times. No nostalgia.
    2. 89268170588
      89268170588 11 February 2021 22: 02
      0
      Respected. Brakes, brakes are different. They poured salt into the BSK - this is castor oil with alcohol, orange, but GTZh and GTN are the road to the next world. Polish and BF-recipe is the same. Dichlorvos, this is from another opera-gypsy moonshine from the times of "Gorbachev's loops". The fliers made liqueur in our time and not bad. During the Second World War, the soldier got various alcohol. Checked simply. Potatoes. Turn blue, you can't drink. You can check. Drop medical alcohol on the cut of potatoes, and then dihydric alcohol-ethylene glycol-base antifreeze. You will see the difference right away.
  3. Egoza
    Egoza 24 November 2020 11: 38
    +8
    Judging by how prices are rising, Chassis liquor will again be a success.
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 24 November 2020 12: 11
      +4
      Quote: Egoza
      Judging by how prices are rising, Chassis liquor will again be a success.

      Well, for example, in hydraulics, alcohol-containing fluid has not been used for a long time.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 November 2020 12: 12
      +7
      Quote: Egoza
      Judging by how prices are rising, Chassis liquor will again be a success.

      No, now! The chassis is "more expensive, sugar moonshine is much cheaper. And if your own wheat, peas, beets, potatoes, apples, it's almost free. I prefer apples, the season was good now."
    3. polar fox
      polar fox 24 November 2020 12: 15
      +7
      Quote: Egoza
      Judging by how prices are rising, Chassis liquor will again be a success.

      not at all ... now very many drive their own moonshine and forgot when they bought something in the store ...
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 24 November 2020 23: 39
        +5
        Quote: polar fox
        now a lot of people drive their own moonshine and forgot when they bought something in the store ..
        Why drive me? I'm a "techie" ... all the time with hardware ... and with alcohol! I can wipe contacts with a thin layer of alcohol!
    4. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 November 2020 15: 03
      -1
      Quote: Egoza
      Judging by how prices are rising, Chassis liquor will again be a success.

      and maybe stop drinking if there is no money for a decent drink?
  4. Bez 310
    Bez 310 24 November 2020 12: 19
    +9
    When we retrained for Tu-22m2 (backfire), we decided
    add the so-called "inhibitor" to alcohol to
    did not drink, they say, your legs will fail, and you will lose your sight.
    After several cases of mild poisoning, the authorities
    decided to save pilots and technicians from any additives
    On Tu-142 and Il-38, alcohol is used for washing
    glasses. After they began to issue technical alcohol,
    which has a "rubber" taste, the pilots began to write reports
    that from such alcohol on the glasses rainbow stains.
    I had to switch to "wheat" alcohol, the quality of which
    quite satisfied with both pilots and technicians.
    1. your1970
      your1970 8 February 2021 07: 26
      -1
      We made it easier .. Alcohol with the letter "B" came (previously it was always "A") ..
      The head of the fuel and lubricants warehouse started a magazine and instructed everyone that they should not drink it. Categorically ... I signed it - - you will drink, you will die, we have nothing to do with it - we warned you ".. such a magazine was kept before - but without fanaticism. And here - first the signature in the magazine and then the conversations ...
      For a long time, the people were fixing themselves, "They do not drink fuel and lubricants by the entire service - as if etched ..".
      Then someone tried it, but you can't take it in your mouth, vomit immediately ... The regiment chipped off like a grandmother ... lol lol
      Attempts to complain about the quality were stabbed to death "Do you drink it, or what? !!!!!! (Checkmate, checkmate, checkmate) !!!!"

      And then they told me in secret that they added the usual medical lysol, quite a bit, but the effect belay
  5. anjey
    anjey 24 November 2020 12: 22
    +4
    Yet it was in aviation, "Shpaga", "Massandra". The Mig-25 was generally called a "flying restaurant", a large amount of alcohol-containing liquid was poured into it, into the anti-icing system. It was only in the 90s that they began to add gasoline and ether to alcohol, which technicians and pilots would not drink.
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 November 2020 12: 37
    +2
    Well, this has long been known and not only in war. Quite in peacetime Soviet times, they also consumed alcohol from the anti-icing system of the same Yak-25, and other equipment, who flew what. At ASK, a retired colonel was the chief of staff, he told a lot of interesting things. Yes, and in life with our flyers from the Falcon, we have here the cadets flew, drank a little. There is something to remember, but it's a pity, many are gone.
  7. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 24 November 2020 13: 12
    +3
    What does “Boston” and “overseas” liquid have to do with it? Alcohol-glycerine mixture for aviation was produced in the thirties in the USSR and was widely used in the then Soviet aviation! Alcohol-containing liquids were widely used in post-war jet military aviation and civil aviation ... and are still used today! And mentions of liquor, chassis "were encountered not only in the film" Chronicle of a Dive Bomber ", but also more than once in" books about the war!
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 24 November 2020 14: 12
      +4
      Hi Vladimir! hi My senior life was the commander of the "Pawn" from the age of 43 until the end of the war, and they burned and shot him down, but I never heard of "Chassi liquor" from him, although he never refused to drink.
      By the way, "The Chronicle of a Dive" was considered the best Soviet film about aviation in the war.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 24 November 2020 23: 29
        +1
        I wish you good health, Konstantin! Well, what can you say? what "Byvaaaaaaet ..."! yes Bad luck! request Once I read an article in the internet about the use of alcohol-containing liquids in aviation ... to fig it was "addresses" indicated! fellow
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 24 November 2020 23: 48
          +2
          on the use of alcohol-containing liquids in aviation.

          A friend of mine flew to Akhtuba to test IR heads on air-to-air missiles, so there, as soon as the test aircraft went to land, everyone immediately ran to him, some with a can, some with a flask. The anti-icer was written off immediately, as soon as the landing gear was taken off the runway. laughing They called this beauty "Massandra", but I never tried it. How many times Seryoga promised to bring me, but he never did, they flew back to the IL-14 and, as soon as they turned on the autopilot, people gathered in the cabin and began to hammer the "goat" under the "Massandra", so nothing to Moscow flew. Slush, abid, yes ... drinks
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 25 November 2020 00: 12
            +2
            Quote: Sea Cat
            They called this beauty "Massandra"

            Massandra "
            This was the name of an alcohol-containing liquid (50/50 alcohol and water). As you can see, the liquid was stronger than vodka. For example, the MiG-25 RB (supersonic reconnaissance aircraft) had on board (refueled) 150-180 liters of "Massandra". And the very name "Massandra" refers only to airplanes because according to flight bikes "Massandra" is translated as: "Mikoyan Provided Aviation with Alcohol, People Are Satisfied with the Decision of the Aircraft Designer" or else there is a second version "Mikoyan Artem Glorious Son of the Armenian people Gave joy to the Aviators". The origin of these tales refers to the period of testing of the aircraft of the MiG design bureau, when, when asked about the large volume of alcohol consumption during aircraft operation, A. Mikoyan replied that he would help fill them with pure alcohol.
            "Epee" ("Shiloh")
            Alcohol-containing liquid with proportions of 70% alcohol to 30% water. It was used, for example, to refuel the evaporative cooling system, equipment of strategic bombers. Terrible Tu-22 - a long-range heavy supersonic bomber (subsequently a missile carrier) used up to 500 liters of this liquid in one flight. In accordance with the calculations, the volume of liquid was correctly written off by specialists. The leftovers were used for their "intended purpose" in the form of a cocktail.

            "Sultyga"
            Alcohol-containing liquid in the proportion opposite to the "Shpag" ("Shiloh") - 70% water and 30% alcohol. It was used as anti-icing in the army aviation, in the Antonov design bureau planes. Because of the harm, the "sultygu" could be given to the air squadron by the head of the fuel and lubricants depot parts of the logistics, if the receiving engineering and technical staff did not leave pure alcohol "for his share". By adding glycerin, pure alcohol was converted into technical and was not ready for consumption "inside" (it was not purified
            So don't worry, Constantine! In addition to "Massandra", there is still plenty of "goodness"! For all the "good" health is not enough!
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 25 November 2020 01: 46
              +4
              Well, and we, the diving people, called the "awl" a pure medical one, which was given to us for washing equipment. The aqualungs, of course, were washed with denatured alcohol, which was also issued for technical needs, and the "awl" went for its intended purpose - inside. So they said: "Come on, let us inject." laughing So there were no special experiences, the state did not forget about us, the good ones. drinks .
  8. Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 24 November 2020 13: 27
    +2
    I, too (probably like many) do not mind sometimes to miss a glass.
    But once they decided to treat me, when I saw that they began to pour a triple cologne, I flatly refused.
    And in the army one "hero" drank the brakes, barely pumped it out.
    Drink so proven and not all sorts of "hawthorns".
  9. aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 24 November 2020 21: 54
    +1
    Two "triples" and one "lilac" - but you always took three "triples"? - today a lady is with us!
    1. sanja.grw
      sanja.grw 26 November 2020 20: 13
      0
      Cocktail Alexander 3, 50% Sasha cologne, 50% Triple
      1. aleks neym_2
        aleks neym_2 26 November 2020 23: 31
        -1
        Yo-mine! And they forgot about "Chypre" !!!
  10. Undecim
    Undecim 25 November 2020 01: 58
    +3
    Quote: Crowe
    a week then rubber smells from you all over the neighborhood ... But there is something to remember, young people do not understand ..

    If a person keeps memories of how he smelled glue, then he must be isolated from young people and, preferably, from society as a whole.
  11. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 26 November 2020 00: 02
    0
    TU-22 nazivali reaktivniy spirtonosec.
  12. zenion
    zenion 30 December 2020 20: 46
    0
    Former tanker in the war, senior sergeant tank commander remembered how they were going through Romania. A bobby jumped out to meet their column of tanks and the officer waved his hands, help, there will now be corpses and turned them into the station. There were two tanks with methyl alcohol written on them. Drunk soldiers were already lying below the cistern. We drove up the tanks so that it was impossible to get around them. The special officer fired into the sky from the PPSh. The soldiers were forcibly driven away. They scream so it's alcohol. The officer shouts - this is not drinking alcohol. This is methyl alcohol, and in response to him, but this is alcohol. He screams - this is poison, but in return he will not take us. Finally, the doctors arrived, spread a tarp on the grass, and all the sober people began to lay out those who were unconscious on this tarp, and the doctors and sisters poured alcohol into their mouths from large syringes. In general, many of those who had gone too far could not be saved, many were sent to hospitals. Tolstov said that he would be more than enough, they say they did it on purpose so as not to fight. Then there was a commission. How is it, who drove by and did not put security, why the covers were open, who opened them? Many have understood. Even when Romanians offered homemade wine, they were afraid to drink. Exactly the same story with alcohol turned out to be when they entered Hungary. But there the advanced units set up guards. The alcohol was kind of normal, but they were afraid that something was added there, would they just throw something like that?
  13. Givi_49
    Givi_49 14 February 2021 10: 36
    0
    Spiritual hunger was always and everywhere. And no "means" helped.