"They required too much investment": the Peruvian army sold out Mi-26 helicopters

The Peruvian Armed Forces sold off the entire fleet of Mi-26T helicopters, actually handing them over to the buyer by weight, and not as complex technical products.

The Cyprus company AGSL Aero Systems acquired at an open auction three heavy transport rotorcraft Mi-26T, which the Peruvian army aviation decommissioned in August this year. The purchase price was slightly over $ 300 for the entire lot. The new owner intends to dismantle all equipment that can still be used, and sell the rest as scrap metal. Among other things, machine engines are subject to assessment.

The equipment was manufactured in 1992 and previously flew in the interests of the Russian Aeroflot. Peru acquired the Mi-26T through Mobetek for approximately $ 9,7 million. Since 1995, helicopters have been part of the 811th Air Assault and Transport Battalion of the Peruvian Army. They had registration numbers EP-705, EP-706, EP-707 and were not used for 12, 17 and 21 years, respectively. The tender for their sale was opened on August 12, 2020.

Their units are certified and can be used as spare parts for overhaul of this type of helicopter.

- explained in the Armed Forces of Peru, noting that the reason for the sale of cars is the too high price of their maintenance:

The repair of three helicopters will require large investments, given their technical condition and inactivity.

As indicated, among the units, D-136 engines, TA-8V starting auxiliary engines and gearboxes did not need repair. The two helicopters have hydraulic, electrical and navigation components that are unusable due to wear and tear due to outdoor storage (in Lima Callao, near the sea).

The Mi-26T EP-707 sample had the least flight time (only 142 hours), but in October 2003 it made an emergency landing and has been in storage ever since.

Comments

[Turanov]

Rugs and lazy people .. Such machines were ruined!

[Hypertension]

"Required too much investment"

Judging by the type of technique, the only "investments" that were, this dance with tambourines and prayers to Quetzalcoatl, which did not reach the addressee ...
But Peru seems to want to buy the Su-57 ...

[ancient]

Quote: Hyperion

Judging by the type of technology,

"Okiyan" is doing its job .... ..Once in the 2000s we "went" to look at the An-32s put up for sale in Lima.....we arrived...we cried and..we flew away....(the rust had eaten them so..that...how did they even fly there themselves? )?

[Hypertension]

Quote: ancient

"Okiyan" is doing its job ...

Moreover, llamas with alpacas probably gnawed ...

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Hyperion

Judging by the type of technique, the only "investments" that were, this dance with tambourines and prayers to Quetzalcoatl, which did not reach the addressee ...

Quetzalcoatl - deity of the Aztecs from Mexico (god of rain and wind)

... The Incas have - Inti the sun god, Mama Kilya the moon goddess, Viracocha the creator of the World, and so on ...

[_M_]

What can I say, pygmies are pygmies

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: _M_

What can I say, pygmies are pygmies

What the hell do the pygmies have to do with it? Was it the mainland or just blurt out?

[Alf]

Quote: Hyperion

But Peru seems to want to buy the Su-57 ...

Let them get it. But only for "money for a barrel".

[Vladimir Mashkov]

A gorgeous illustration of the famous saying: "Technology in the hands of a savage is a piece of iron"!

[Thrifty]

Looking at these turntables, I remember how in the 90s our “strategists” were slaughtered in the uk-roine! ! That is why they brought such handsome men to the handle!

[Turanov]

Quote: Thrifty

Looking at these turntables, I remember how in the 90s our “strategists” were slaughtered in the uk-roine! ! That is why they brought such handsome men to the handle!

Yes, in general, shameful !!! These are transport workers, there is so much you can load and deliver to hard-to-reach areas .. But Peru is a mountainous country and the infrastructure there is underdeveloped ..!
It seems to me that these turntables were bought by private individuals in Colombia They are just right, especially since the engines are whole and almost new.
Again Russia will be accused of something.

[ancient]

Quote: Thrifty

That is why they brought such handsome men to the handle!

Quite right! .. and besides everything else ..... "sabers ... like .. Trotsky"
Quote - "..... Their units are certified and can be used as spare parts for the overhaul of this type of helicopter. "
Here is the specification (from the personal archive) .. see the "Resource before repair" section. (do not mind that there is no clarification Resource / Calendar .... girls typists they are everywhere ... the same).

And this is generally ... beyond my understanding "..... As indicated, among the units, D-136 engines, TA-8V starting auxiliary engines and gearboxes did not need to be repaired."?????

[Fantazer911]

Equipment in the hands of Peruvian specialists, a pile of scrap metal!

[smart ass]

Peruvian army traded mi 26 for bow, arrows and spears

[basmach]

That's right, they say, the technique is in the hands of a savage, a heap of scrap metal.

[Maki maki]

The Peruvians have not yet grown to such machines

[Trevis]

Coke will be transported in simpler cars.

[Turanov]

Quote: Trevis

Coke will be transported in simpler cars.

I wrote about this above, they sold it to Colombia.

[Insurgent]

"They required too much investment": the Peruvian army sold out Mi-26 helicopters

They couldn't cope with the operation of Soviet technology, they couldn't afford it financially... What do they need then?
What could be even simpler and cheaper?

[Revolver]

Quote: Insurgent

What could be even simpler and cheaper?

AK-47 and RPG-7. Maybe T-55, but that's the most they can handle. T-72 is probably too much for them.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

Su-22, Su-25, MiG-29, Mi-8 and Mi-17 have been successfully operated for a long time. An aircraft repair plant operates in Lima, where equipment is serviced, incl. Russian production.

[Rzzz]

Quote: Insurgent

They did not cope with the operation of Soviet technology, they did not "pull" it financially

I read about the Mi-26 that, due to its uniqueness, it is an extremely difficult device to maintain, therefore it is expensive and requires very high qualifications of personnel.

[smart ass]

Bow, arrows and spears

[Dmitriy444]

Automatic gearbox or mechanics?))) Technology in the hands of a savage - a pile of metal.

[Coward]

"Automatic transmission or mechanics?"
Variable speed drive.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Coward

"Automatic transmission or mechanics?"
Variable speed drive.

An interesting joke with a variator on a Honda-Dio scooter ...
A friend bought it in the early 2000s, in used and very used condition, brought "from abroad"...
I drove around and drove around and for some reason I decided to change it. Belt variator (after all, the old one, used ...).

I bought a new Chinese one in a motorcycle store, in a beautiful package (!!!) Changed ...
After 5 km, the scooter got up and refused to go. Pushed home and ... changed the Chinese new belt stretched into the trash for a used Japanese, "native" , which fortunately did not throw away.

Then God knows how much he rode on a scooter until he sold it to the next owner.

[evgen1221]

As a noble Chinascuterist, I responsibly confirm that, from the age of 16, they began to carry the full g to us. Before that, the quality was tolerable. The grimaces of our shuttles.

[Alf]

Quote: evgen1221

The grimaces of our shuttles.

It's not about the shuttles. There is a Chinese product of high quality, but expensive, and there is a Chinese product that is cheap, but ... bad. A lot of people now buy a Chinese quality but expensive product?

[evgen1221]

A lot, it's better to pay 3000 for a normal piston than 2500 but change it again six months later.

[Alf]

Quote: evgen1221

A lot, it's better to pay 3000 for a normal piston than 2500 but change it again six months later.

You are not entirely correct. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of people have a clearly formed concept in their brains - Chinese, which means cheap and bad. And there are very few real high-quality goods from the PRC on sale now.

[evgen1221]

Yes, I am silent about a really high-quality product, in general, it is difficult but you can find it. But that shaft g that they are driving us, the hucksters have not yet understood that by selling 10 pieces of 2500 frank junk, they lose 30 possible buyers, as if they were selling for 3500, but a more bearable, though not super-quality product. It just infuriates already.

[Alf]

Quote: evgen1221

Yes, I am silent about a really high-quality product, in general, it is difficult but you can find it. But that shaft g that they are driving us, the hucksters have not yet understood that by selling 10 pieces of 2500 frank junk, they lose 30 possible buyers, as if they were selling for 3500, but a more bearable, though not super-quality product. It just infuriates already.

It's just that smart traders do it differently - they bring 10 units on the cheap, but junk and 1-2 units of quality goods. But such businessmen are few.
On the other hand, if the seller brings only expensive, but high-quality goods, then it will very quickly go down the drain, since now the incomes of the population have sagged. As long as a knowledgeable buyer will come, and eat and drink, pay wages and taxes right now.
You see, the fact is that I have been trading in the market for 20 years and I understood very quickly this truth that you cannot build a business on one expensive product. Walk through the nearest shopping center, you will see how many departments selling branded goods have closed, but all sorts of stores living off low prices survived.

[roll]

It didn't sink by itself. The empire just demands sacrifices.

[sergo1914]

So the Indians. They'd have mustangs. And then the helicopters. So we went away. Maybe they even tried to shoe.

[Insurgent]

Quote: sergo1914

So the Indians. They would have mustangs.

Well, the horse didn’t grow in the prairies either... This curiosity, for the local aborigines, was brought to the continent by the Spanish colonizers...

[Turanov]

Quote: Insurgent

Quote: sergo1914

So the Indians. They would have mustangs.

Well, the horse didn’t grow in the prairies either... This curiosity, for the local aborigines, was brought to the continent by the Spanish colonizers...

What is the difference between a European horse and a mustang horse? Are you confusing anything, Mobius?

The Anglo-Saxons brought only soldiers to the continent and took out gold ..

[Stasi]

Quote: Turanov

The Anglo-Saxons brought only soldiers to the continent and took out gold ..

Long before the Anglo-Saxons, horses were brought to the American continent by the Spanish conquistadors.
Before that, in the "New World" the local Indians had no idea about such animals. And the mounted Spaniards brought the Indians into a superstitious wild horror, sowing panic...
Later, some of the horses became wild and formed herds, receiving the nickname "mustang", which means (mestengo/mesteño "mixed") - a wild domestic horse.
Mustang was common on the prairies of North America and the pampas of South America.

So, there are no contradictions in Insurgent's commentary, that's how it was

[Turanov]

Interesting .. I'm wrong. I read about it

[ycuce234-san]

Mustangs still exist in nature, although there are few of them, like bison. Perhaps they will be supplemented in the future with a population of Przewalski's horses, more resistant to wild nature - 1,5 months ago, this species was successfully cloned for the first time.

[abrakadabre]

An excellent example of a situation where a complex technique in the hands of a savage is a piece of iron.

[Proton]

The operation of such a serious technique a priori cannot be cheap. All expenses should be counted before purchase, not after.
If you want something cheaper - buy the MI-17 variants.
I have one friend, at one time he bought the Land Cruiser Prado in the 120 body. I ask why you don’t ride? The answer surprised me.
- There is no money for winter tires.
It was in November, until April the car was parked in the garage.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Proton

I want it cheaper

We are not that rich. to buy cheap things!
Therefore, it is necessary to take the Lekhus zhix 460th. Much better than Pradik.

[carstorm 11]

pradik in operation is several times cheaper) literally)

[Lionnvrsk]

Well, I don’t know, I don’t know. I have experience in operating the gix for 8 years and now 2 years of pradika. Zhiks is a more indestructible, reliable and comfortable car. Maybe I was so "lucky", but a 12 year old gix is ​​better than a 4 year old pradik. More high-spirited, softer, more comfortable, less broken, etc. etc. And the pradik has one KDSS with a left bias.

[carstorm 11]

You probably just haven't driven purely Japanese Prados. On the engine. 3.4 in the 120 body in the TZ configuration, in my opinion, it's generally impossible to kill it) both have air, but the Leha's suspension is damn stiffer. This is an acquired taste, of course. Many people simply haven't driven purely Japanese cars. With right-hand drive. They are many times better than left-hand drive cars. And so, starting from the tax and ending with repairs and consumption, the Prado is more profitable in everything. And so the only difference between them is that the Leha has wood in the cabin and other little features)

[Lionnvrsk]

Löhus, an American brought from there, pradik 150 4L collected for Sweden.
I have already said my opinion.

[Alf]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

Löhus, an American brought from there, pradik 150 4L collected for Sweden.

Japanese car imported from America, made for Sweden ..
Reality but funny.

[Rostislav]

The most indestructible Volvo XC90 jeep.

[Revolver]

Quote: Rostislav

The most indestructible Volvo XC90 jeep.

I have a Volvo V70XC 2002, 150000 miles, and I'm not going to change it for anything. My wife has a 60 V2018 Cross Country, but I like my 2002 better. And the cross-country ability... I haven't taken it for a spin, but it goes well in the snow, never got stuck.

[Captain45]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

We are not that rich. to buy cheap things!
Therefore, it is necessary to take the Lekhus zhix 460th. Much better than Pradik.

Quote: Rostislav

The most indestructible Volvo XC90 jeep.

Quote: Nagan

I have a Volvo V70XC 2002, 150000 miles, and I'm not going to change it for anything. The wife of the V60 Cross Country 2018,

After all, the villain Putin brought impoverished Russia, not a single domestic cocktail, all foreign jeeps

[tol100v]

After all, the villain Putin brought impoverished Russia to the "Zircon", and suddenly, all the jeeps ran out!

[Diverter]

I'll add. Toyota/Lexus jeeps are a show-off for the city. On the highway, it's a complete ...
the track is an Audi ku 7., the dirt road is the village is a Nissan Patrol.
but most of all he warmed his soul X 5))))))
Volvo did not use, not ready to appreciate.

[Captain45]

Quote: Saboteur

muddy - the village is Nissan Patrol.

UAZ - "loaf" with military self-locking bridges when slipping, rubber "pyataks" and bags of grain - potatoes, hay and firewood in the salon, that's what you need in the village

[Diverter]

UAZ is for work or for fun - competitions on shit. And we are talking about a car for the family. In general, I came to this conclusion a long time ago and therefore I use several cars in the family. Now X5, my wife has Stepway, IZH 2717 with a trailer for the household, Niva for hunting.

[ccsr]

Quote: carstorm 11

pradik in operation is several times cheaper) literally)

I have been getting service from official Toyota Motors dealers for ten years now, and I can say that the standard hour rates for the Highlander and Lexus RX are practically the same, and the overall price for servicing new cars is practically the same. I don't think that SUVs have such a sharp price range - most likely, all operating costs are not very different, although I honestly admit that I have not driven SUVs. But I am constantly at the Toyota center for service, and when buying a new RX, I compared it with the Prado and came to the conclusion that the prices are not very different. Where then can there be a multiple range of operating costs and prices for servicing practically identical Toyota Prado and Lexus GX SUVs?

[ccsr]

Quote: Proton

If you want something cheaper - buy the MI-17 variants.

I think that they did not buy these helicopters out of need, but simply Russia paid with barter for the fact that our fishing trawlers fished there and served in their ports, because whoever remembers that time knows what happened then. In the same way, our armored vehicles ended up in South Korea, so you shouldn't blame everything on the unpreparedness of the Peruvians, because they most likely received these helicopters as a suitcase without a handle.
In general, not everything is clear with the history of the appearance of these helicopters in Peru, and therefore mockery of their fate is not entirely appropriate if we do not know the intricacies of this deal in terms of warranty service and personnel training. But the very fact that they used them already indicates that not all clumsy people serve in the Peruvian Air Force.

[Proton]

In no way spoke about the club-handedness of the Peruvian Air Force, much less scoffed.
The message was that the calculations for the operation of serious equipment should be done BEFORE purchasing. The helicopter itself is very good, but it has its own niche
Even if purchased on a barter basis, no one canceled maintenance and repairs.
Sincerely.

[ancient]

Quote: Proton

Land Cruiser Prado 120 body. I ask, why don't you go? The answer surprised me.
- There is no money for winter tires.
It was in November, until April the car was parked in the garage.

Well, yes... rubber is expensive, I could have bought myself "all-season" GOODYEAR... and no problems... (unless of course) it's a naked summer... but I drove on it for almost 4 years... quite
Then he decided on YOKOHAMA ... spat for a whole year and changed.

[bobba94]

I observed this picture in the Far East. Money appeared and they take a pontoy jeep, and then problems begin. A supported jeep in Hokkaido can be bought for little money, then they start to think about it ... You can somehow get out with rubber, but if the automatic gearbox comes up, then count everything ...

[Alf]

Quote: Proton

The operation of such a serious technique a priori cannot be cheap. All expenses should be counted before purchase, not after.
If you want something cheaper - buy the MI-17 variants.
I have one friend, at one time he bought the Land Cruiser Prado in the 120 body. I ask why you don’t ride? The answer surprised me.
- There is no money for winter tires.
It was in November, until April the car was parked in the garage.

Conversation between two brothers.
Vovan, bubble, what a cool cell I took. Glass-rhinestone, case-gold, buttons-pearls, all in Swarovski crystals.
Class, listen, let me call?
You cho, in nature, ofigel, two rubles a minute!

[icant007]

Peru acquires Mi-26T through Mobetek

The name of the company is somehow familiar, like in the 90s some scandals revolved around this company. Or something like that.

[nnm]

I think you remembered Mabetex.

[icant007]

Exactly, otherwise I think something familiar)

[icant007]

As indicated, among the units, the D-136 engines, the TA-8V starting auxiliary engines and gearbox.

I am not an aviator not close. But gearbox)

[Cook]

Lost in translation. Most likely we are talking about gearboxes. In English it is: "gear box" - and as a gearbox can be translated, and as a gearbox.

[Jacket in stock]

Why did they buy them at all?
For wealth?
I understand that there were simply no tasks for such devices in Peru. It's just too expensive to ride.

[Alf]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Why did they buy them at all?
For wealth?
I understand that there were simply no tasks for such devices in Peru. It's just too expensive to ride.

So that the neighbors choke on saliva with envy.

[Linxs]

Tin. Just tin.

[Al Asad]

Why did they buy? If they were idle for so many years, then there was no work for them

[Toucan]

The point is apparently that the helicopters were no longer new and without factory support. The operation of the Mi-26 is much more complicated and expensive than that of the Mi-8 and Mi-24. The existing Mi-26s do not fly in India either. This despite the fact that Peru has experience of successful operation of MiG-29 and Mirage-2000 fighters.

[silverwolf88]

In such a scenario ... we had to buy them back and reanimate ... good cars with a reserve of resources went nowhere ...

[rocket757]

Strange, but this is their business, sho can still be said.

[mark1]

Not according to Senka, the hat turned out to be ...
Ours would have bought it, since the engines are in order.

[Azimuth]

Yes, we bought BeLaz from the dacha to take out garbage

[Sibguest]

"... not operated for 12, 17 and 21 years, respectively ..." when flying from a gulkin's nose ...
What else to say about Peru and its "army": PITECANTHROPS!

[Tugarin]

The weaklings turned out to be Peruvians - they failed

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

A little over three for an almost new helicopter. Wow price tag.

[xomaNN]

"Technology in the hands of the Papuan - money down the drain!"

[zontov79]

Technology in the hands of the Indians ...

[tol100v]

But if you think about it, why do they need them?

[sifgame]

Three helicopters, even if they are the most outstanding machine of this class, could not be afforded by the whole country, why did they buy them?

[rehev931]

Technique in the crayfish of a savage - a pile of metal !!!

[Motorhead]

Well, yes, this is not a llama to cut. The technique should be in professional hands, not in the hands of goat herders.

[APASUS]

Holy shit, they bought a Mi-26T and are complaining about the cost of its maintenance.

[Victor Tsenin]

It's a mess in Peru too

[Fotoceva62]

equipment in the hands of a savage, a pile of scrap metal ... And about the raid, they apparently exploited it according to the principle ... do not touch the equipment and it will not let you down ...

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Turanov

Rugs and lazy people .. Such machines were ruined!

I agree! Barbarismssss ...

Been inside to start the engines even - impressive
But I didn't even have to fly as a passenger - according to my position, I was obliged to get off the plane before takeoff
We have evaluated and inspected ...

[demchuk.ig]

This is about the fact that complex technology gets to the Papuans (everyone knows the list of countries)!

[Bersaglieri]

"We bought a white elephant" without having tasks for it. Gouge, as always. Just like with the purchase of battleships and dreadnoughts by the "Great Powers of Latin America" ​​100+ years ago.

[Prisoner]

Peruvian army! I don't understand why they needed Mi-26 at all? For the sake of it or for credibility?

[Alf]

Quote: Captive

Schaub bulo or for authority?

The fingers parted strongly.

[Bersaglieri]

to carry coke :)

[Prisoner]

"As indicated, among the units, the D-136 engines, the TA-8V starting auxiliary engines and gearbox. "(c) Rzhaka! Are they talking about gearboxes, or am I missing something?

[Lew]

Well, what's there to worry about? They gave us the money, so that's good.

[Alf]

Quote: Lew

Well, what's there to worry about? They gave us the money, so that's good.

When I was trading in the market, I said, “Let the person buy the goods, pay the money, and then let him put this product into the anus.

[7,62x54]

Well, the Indians have not grown to the level of Mi, even the 90s. They would still be wearing a poncho and playing a pipe on a ken. Life without worries.

[COJIDAT]

And you often help the homeless people))

[COJIDAT]

and sell the rest as scrap metal

[Alexander Grizodub]

Where did helicopter gearboxes come from?

[serezhasoldatow]

How long will a fool last a glass ...

[duschman80-81]

Technology in the hands of savages is just a piece of iron ...

[Nross]

I twitched in one eye when I read that Aeroflot sold 2 practically new Mi-26s for 9 + million. bucks?
In the 90s, Russian companies employed the same vorie-Papuans as in Ukrainian ones until now: they sold everything they could for a good kickback.
For comparison: the much poorer CH-47 Chinook in the 2000s was estimated at 30 million. For 1 piece

And then we are surprised that the polymers have been fucked up ...

[Misha_an26]

Gear boxes. Nicely.

[Andre]

Let them get what they want, but money for a barrel, so that they are like a sail.