The military police received the first batch of "Patrol" armored vehicles

The first batch of Patrol armored vehicles entered service with the military police. The solemn ceremony of handing over the vehicles took place at the Alabino training ground in the Moscow region. This is reported by the Ministry of Defense.

The first batch handed over to the military police consisted of five "special vehicles" of the military police "Patrol". The equipment was supplied as part of the state defense order.

Today we are adopting armored vehicles "Patrol", which have already been successfully tested, into service with military police units. The vehicles will be used to provide escort and protection of military convoys, patrolling and, most importantly, to protect the crew from the damaging action of small arms. weapons and explosive devices

- said the head of the Main Directorate of the Military Police of the Russian Defense Ministry, Colonel-General Sergei Kuralenko.

As they say in the message, the Patrol armored car is built on the KamAZ chassis. The body is made in the form of an armored capsule and provides protection against damage by small arms of 5,45 and 7,62 caliber. The car can withstand explosive detonation up to 2 kg in TNT equivalent under the wheels, as well as under the bottom. The gas tanks are treated with a special compound that tightens the bullet holes.

Earlier armored vehicles "Patrol" entered service with divisions of "Rosgvardia".

Wheel arrangement 4x4, curb weight 11700 kg, V8 diesel KAMAZ-740.652-260 engine, engine power 260 HP, mechanical transmission, five-speed, two-stage transfer case with a lockable cross-axle differential, crew 2 + 8 people, overall dimensions 7340x2550x2950 mm, ground clearance 370 mm, cruising range 1000 km.

Comments

[_Ugene_]

"The car can withstand explosive detonation up to 2 kg in TNT equivalent under the wheels"
2 kg under the wheel is weak for such a large car carrying a lot of people

[iouris]

The car carries the cadets, and it says: "People". It's funny.

[Mouse]

Are the cadets like robots?

[Mouse]

Ah ... inhumans ...

[BLADFROST]

Yes to urge! Hihitun!

[for]

Quote: _Ugene_

withstands explosive detonation up to 2 kg in TNT equivalent under the wheels "

Well, the "opposition" will no longer be planted. It can be sold to top managers and businessmen, issued to deputies, senators and officials of all stripes.

[_Ugene_]

and where does the opposition? a car for the military police, not for the police

[BARKAS]

what does the opposition have to do with it?

Not our Syrian apparently.

[for]

Quote: _Ugene_

military police, not police

Police, she is the police., Even though the military, though civil. Dual-use technique.

[Lopatov]

Quote: for

Police, she is the police., Even though the military, though civil.

Advance run, retreat run ...

[_Ugene_]

the military police move where the troops are, there the probability of an explosion is maximum, but the ordinary police will mine the highway in a metropolis?

[YOUR]

How much is needed?
So for information, there are so many explosives in an anti-tank mine.

[_Ugene_]

Iveco LMV, which we have a Lynx, is the size of a Tiger and holds 6kg under the wheel
So for information, our anti-tank mines - TM-62M 7,5 kg of TNT, TM-89 6.7 kg

[YOUR]

Well, then those who are in the car are not lucky. Developers and acceptors saved

[lucul]

Iveco LMV, which we have a Lynx, is the size of a Tiger and holds 6kg under the wheel
So for information, our anti-tank mines - TM-62M 7,5 kg of TNT, TM-89 6.7 kg

Everything depends on the price. To hold a 6 kg TNT explosion, other expensive body / frame alloys are needed. And then they took the chassis from Kamaz and the engine from it, and surrounded it with simple armor - a very economical option.

[KCA]

When buying a license for Iveco:
According to the developer, IVECO LMV can withstand the detonation of 6 kg of explosives in TNT equivalent, but he prohibited detonation tests.

[hohkn]

Quote: YOUR

So for information, there are so many explosives in an anti-tank mine.

TM-89 - almost 7 kg. TM-62M - 8 kg.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: hohkn

Quote: YOUR

So for information, there are so many explosives in an anti-tank mine.

TM-89 - almost 7 kg. TM-62M - 8 kg.

And if TM-83? ...

I just want to say that it is not difficult to make a land mine with a warhead of more than 6kg of tol, even in "field conditions" ... And the calculations of what kind of explosion the "car" holds under the wheel are rather arbitrary. Today the PTM-5 anti-tank mine has already appeared and now the mines are "hitting from above" ...

[hohkn]

Quote: cat Rusich

And if TM-83? ...

So it is also cumulative. It hits the side.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: hohkn

Quote: cat Rusich

And if TM-83? ...

So it is also cumulative. It hits the side.

So about the "godfather" and the conversation ... Everyone is "concerned" how much BB (tol) the "car" holds under the wheel, but they say little about the fact that when attacking a "car" in the "rear" they will attack from the flank. And the attackers will have an RPG ... It is enough just to stop the car by damaging the wheel ... The TM-83 is also an anti-tank mine, in the event of an "organized" attack, they can deliver such an anti-tank mine.

[hohkn]

Quote: cat Rusich

in the event of an "organized" attack, they can deliver such an anti-tank mine.

So I was not going to argue with that.

[Aleksandr1971]

We should also put protection on the roof of the car from drones, in the light of the events in Karabakh

[svp67]

Quote: _Ugene_

2 kg under the wheel is weak for such a large car carrying a lot of people

"Tiger" 600 grams under the wheel, so this "Patrol" is clearly better. That's just the weight ... you can't carry it with a light transport

[Runway]

And two kilos for the roof? Near rear commandant's car. Columns bmto accompany. Again, in the rear, where the likelihood of running into a group is relatively minimized (as well as stupidity with mining).
Peacetime monster.

[Bar1]

they don't even write about the box and the bridges. But this is an import, the same alice. These are ours going across Syria, since the box has flown. And where to send an application for the purchase of a box, but directly to pin_dos, in the same place in Syria.
-Hey Americans, will you sell us your boxes?
-Yes sell for milen dollars
and what to take or not to take? Not taking means walking on foot.
This will be the reality from the current MO.

[iouris]

Original name. Creatively.

[evgen1221]

And why are there such inconsistencies in the models of lightweight?

[Tugarin]

Quote: evgen1221

What is the difference between the models of light weight?

All manufacturers want to eat.

[evgen1221]

And for unification and sekas with spare parts do not care.

[ZEMCH]

Quote: evgen1221

And for unification and sekas with spare parts do not care.

On the KAMAZ frame, there are no problems with unification, and the engine is serial

[evgen1221]

And besides the engine in 4 types of mrap, in these cars there is clearly a lot of non-interchangeable parts (the body is clearly different), We would have made 2 types of cars and while there is no money, but you would go to war for an infinite time.

[_Ugene_]

2kg under the wheel is not MRAP but a misunderstanding

[Kot_Kuzya]

It seems that the military police should monitor the law and order in the troops and the army, and not

providing escort and protection of military convoys, patrolling and, most importantly, protecting the crew from the damaging effects of small arms and explosive devices

Fugitive soldiers and all sorts of drunken borogozy are not terrorists, they will not plant landmines under the VP vehicles, and even more so they will not attack military columns. They also covered the windows with nets, laughing at the chickens. As if deserters and AWOLs would throw stones at the VP.

[sabakina]

Kuzma Kuzmich, do you really think this car is against self-propelled vehicles?

[Kot_Kuzya]

Do you really think that the duties of the VP include the protection of military columns, and the VP needs protection from a land mine and stones flying into the glass? If you follow your logic, then PPS-nicknames also need to be issued armored cars instead of Grants and Largus.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Do you really think that the duties of the VP include the protection of military columns, and the VP needs protection from a land mine and stones flying into the glass?

A sofa expert?

When we entered Chechnya through Ingushetia in 1999, the columns were often thrown with stones. With the connivance of the local police.
Apparently the "narot" did not want us to stop the chaos. With explosions taken prisoner and the like. And that is why the "narot" "fought" Well, do not shoot at them.

There were even badly injured people. one double bass from the 503rd regiment had an eye out. As far as I heard, the culprit was never found.

Likewise with those who rode with columns in Tskhinval. Stones were regularly thrown in Georgian villages.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Spade

When we entered Chechnya through Ingushetia in 1999, the columns were often thrown with stones. With the connivance of the local police.
Apparently the "narot" did not want us to stop the chaos. With explosions taken prisoner and the like. And that is why the "narot" "fought" Well, do not shoot at them.

There were even badly injured people. one double bass from the 503rd regiment had an eye out. As far as I heard, the culprit was never found.

Likewise with those who rode with columns in Tskhinval. Stones were regularly thrown in Georgian villages.

DPS officers also SOMETIMES shoot from AK and even heavier weapons. So let's equip all DPS nicknames with armored cars! Oh yes, American policemen also SOMETIMES shoot from machine guns. But for some reason, the Americans don't put their cops in armored cars.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

DPS officers also SOMETIMES shoot from AK and even heavier weapons. So let's equip all DPS nicknames with armored cars!

Come on, it's high time ...
But the trouble is that people like you will immediately start screaming about the fact that "they are using it to fight the people" and "it would be better if they gave money to pensioners"

[Kot_Kuzya]

Ordinary people are also SOMETIMES shot and cut with knives. But for some reason you don’t scream that people need to hand out body armor, and you yourself don’t even wear crappy chain mail.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Runaway soldiers and all sorts of drunken hounds are not terrorists

Do you know that the Interim Government is engaged in the fight against terrorists in Syria?

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Dart2027

Do you know that the Interim Government is engaged in the fight against terrorists in Syria?

Perhaps, according to your "logic", the Federal Penitentiary Service and the Ministry of Emergency Situations are also engaged in the fight against terrorists in Syria? You, sick one, at least read on the MO website what the VP is doing.
You will also write that the RF VP is = Waffen SS

[Dart2027]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

You, sick one, at least read on the MO website what the VP is doing.

MOSCOW, March 29 - RIA Novosti. Russian military police continue to patrol the Syrian-Turkish border along routes in the Syrian provinces of Aleppo and Haseke, Rear Admiral Oleg Zhuravlev, head of the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of Warring Parties (CPVS) in Syria, said at a briefing.
https://ria.ru/20200329/1569326255.html

Any more questions?

[Kot_Kuzya]

For you

Quote: Dart2027

Russian military police continue to patrol the Syrian-Turkish border along routes in the Syrian provinces of Aleppo and Haseke

the same thing, what to beat the barmaley with heavy weapons and attack their positions? You are definitely confusing the RF VP with the Waffen SS. Does it not occur to you that the VP monitors the legality of the actions of the RF Armed Forces on this line of contact and suppresses the attempts of deserters to escape from the line of contact or / and cross over to the side of the enemy? Maybe in your reality, the VP has tank troops, heavy artillery and aviation? If the theme of the Third Reich is so close to you, then the RF Air Force can be compared with the activities of the Feljandarmerie of the Wehrmacht. But I hope that even you will not argue that the feljandarms went on the attack against the regular units of the Red Army and the allies? The duties of the RF Ministry of Defense include observance of the orders of the Ministry of Defense by regular units, but not participation in hostilities issued by the RF Ministry of Defense for regular units.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

It does not occur to you that the VP monitors the legality of the actions of the RF Armed Forces on this line of contact, and suppresses attempts by deserters to escape from the line of contact

Game....

No, they do not "follow", they patrol.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Spade

Game....

No, they do not "follow", they patrol.

Well, yes, they just keep order. They don't fight and don't attack. Is this a discovery for you? I do not put quotation marks on purpose, since this is clearly an opening for you.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Well, yes, they just keep order. They don't fight and don't attack.

And still it is a fight against terrorism.
Is this a discovery for you?

[Kot_Kuzya]

You do not leave the topic. Is the Russian VP going to attack the Barmaley and the VP has heavy artillery, tanks and the possibility of using nuclear weapons?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

You do not leave the topic.

Where am I going?
Once again, for you personally: patrolling the routes of supply and transportation of troops, you at least burst, is part of the fighting ...
And if the goal of hostilities is to fight terrorism, then patrolling the roads is also part of that fight.

So that even such a "fighter for the nart" as you would understand: if you do not have nails, then going to the store for them is part of making a fence.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

is the same as hitting the barmalei with heavy weapons and attacking their positions

I understand that there is nothing clever to argue with?

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

You are definitely confusing the RF VP with the Waffen SS.

Who hurts.

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

It does not occur to you that the VP monitors the legality of the actions of the RF Armed Forces on this line of contact

In a country where a war with terrorists has been going on for several years, and the war is in the literal, not figurative sense of the word.

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

If the topic of the Third Reich is so close to you, then

I know very well that in the war with the Third Reich, the NKVD troops fought on the front line when it was necessary and washed themselves with blood precisely because of the lack of heavy weapons.

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

The duties of the RF VP include observance of orders of the Ministry of Defense by regular units, but not participation in hostilities.

The duties of the VP include the execution of orders of the Ministry of Defense, and what task they will be given is another question.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Dart2027

I know very well that in the war with the Third Reich, the NKVD troops fought on the front line when it was necessary and washed themselves with blood precisely because of the lack of heavy weapons.

Do not confuse the NKVD, which at that time included the border troops, with the FZh of the Reich. I know very well that the first battles on the border were accepted by the troops of the NKVD, in the same Brest fortress many border guards of the NKVD troops fought heroically, and even then, right up to the battle of Moscow, militiamen volunteered en masse in the brigades and divisions of the NKVD.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Do not confuse the NKVD, which then included the border troops

And not only they, but also operational troops, escort troops, troops of the NKVD for the protection of railway structures and especially important industrial enterprises.
More tales will be?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Would you be sick

Are you being rude ...?

at least read on the MO website what the VP is doing.

Is this the source of Russian law?
Especially for the sick:
The functions of the RF Armed Forces are defined in two legal acts:

Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of March 25.03.2015, 161 N 01.07.2020 (as amended of July XNUMX, XNUMX) "On Approval of the Charter of the Military Police of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and Amendments to Some Acts of the President of the Russian Federation"

http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_177125/063d2967b302e06795709c77e6706b93022b2e9b/
Article 20 and

Charter of the RF Armed Forces, approved by the above Decree ...

http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_177125/f709905c40ee7024c0b4f091aca4615c7476cfc7/
What you read on the website of the RF Ministry of Defense is project Federal Law "On the Military Police of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and Amendments to Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation" (project)
https://doc.mil.ru/documents/projects/more.htm?id=11709428%40morfNPAProject
I already wrote here about the need for this Federal Law, well, they were honored, at least to write a project ...
What we see in the SAR indicates the need to expand the functions of the RF AF of the RF Armed Forces, which in fact are now being performed, going beyond their competence ... and using V and VT, which are not provided for by the Charter of the RF AF ...

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Lara Croft

What we see in the SAR indicates the need to expand the functions of the RF AF of the RF Armed Forces, which in fact are now being performed, going beyond their competence ... and using V and VT, which are not provided for by the Charter of the RF AF ...

Yes Yes. By your logic, the RF VP replaces the entire RF Defense Ministry and becomes an analogue of the Waffen SS. Aren't you funny yourself? Can you cite at least one document where heavy artillery and tank troops are subordinate to the VP.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Quote: Lara Croft

What we see in the SAR indicates the need to expand the functions of the RF AF of the RF Armed Forces, which in fact are now being performed, going beyond their competence ... and using V and VT, which are not provided for by the Charter of the RF AF ...

Yes Yes.

Well, I'm glad for you to have mastered the material offered for study ...

According to your logic, the RF VP replaces the entire RF Ministry of Defense

From what my suggestions did you come to this conclusion?

and becomes an analogue of the Waffen SS.

It seems to me that you are fixated on this phrase, write about it in almost all comments, do you have something in common with "SS"?

Can you cite at least one document where heavy artillery and tank troops are subordinate to the VP.

Why should I cite such (and your) nonsense as an example, if I have never written about it ...
And the list of weapons of the Air Force of the RF Armed Forces is indicated in the legal acts I have cited ....
Apparently all the same they did not read them and did not master ...

[AlexVas44]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

You will also write that the RF VP is = Waffen SS

Well, if we move on to such a comparison, then closer is the Feldgendarmerie (German Feldgendarmerie). These are the ones who are ruthless to cowards and deserters ...

[RUSS]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Runaway soldiers and all sorts of drunken hounds are not terrorists

Do you know that the Interim Government is engaged in the fight against terrorists in Syria?

As reported by the Russian Ministry of Defense, "Units of the Russian military police will provide assistance in ensuring the safety of the population and maintaining law and order, patrolling in designated areas, and will also assist in the withdrawal of Kurdish self-defense units and their weapons 30 km from the Syrian-Turkish border," the message says

[Dart2027]

Quote: RUSS

Units of the Russian military police will provide assistance in ensuring the safety of the population and maintaining law and order, patrolling in designated areas, and will also assist in the withdrawal of Kurdish self-defense units and their weapons 30 km from the Syrian-Turkish border

AND? I have already written in translation from diplomatic to human.

[Catfish]

You probably didn't pay attention to this line.

Earlier armored vehicles "Patrol" entered service with divisions of "Rosgvardia".

, then everything becomes clear with the nets, and since everything new in our country comes into service with units aimed at fighting the "internal enemy", then, first of all, these armored cars received the gendarmes. And for the army - at last, and they did not redo it, and so they should be satisfied.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Sea Cat

aimed at fighting the "internal enemy"

Forgot to mention the poor and the children

[Catfish]

And why remember them does not make sense
And what was the minus for you? When I wrote about the gendarmes, I knew that the uryakalki would slap, but I was really tired of all these pseudo-patriots, they would once again have the power to lick the fillets, at least in this way.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Sea Cat

aimed at fighting the "internal enemy"

Forgot to mention the poor and the children

Yeah. Such bearded ones, with machine guns.
These "fighters for the narot against the Russian Guards" love them very dearly. They can't live straight when they begin to pinch.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

They also covered the windows with nets, laughing at the chickens.

Exactly.
The country is lumpy, it will not become poorer to change the blocks of armored glass. In total, that is about 22 thousand per square, which is nonsense.

For reference: bulletproof glass can be easily damaged by ordinary stone.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Spade

For reference: bulletproof glass can be easily damaged by ordinary stone.

If bulletproof glass can be spoiled with an ordinary stone, then this is not glass, but ordinary. You still cry that the bulletproof vest can be ruined by an ordinary stone.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

If bulletproof glass can be spoiled with an ordinary stone, then this is not glass, but ordinary.

"I congratulate you, Sharik ...." (c)
But you are a complete oak in the subject
Incredible!

Do you even know what it is, bulletproof glass?

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Spade

Do you even know what it is, bulletproof glass?

I know. And I know that if bulletproof glass can be broken with an ordinary stone, then it is guano, not bulletproof glass. You, I hope, will not argue that you need to cover the armor of armored vehicles with a mesh from stones? And I also hope you know that the destruction and penetration of a bullet is much larger than a regular stone? Or have you tried nothing further than the slingshot?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

I know.

Unlikely

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

And I know that if bulletproof glass can be broken with an ordinary stone, then it is guano, not bulletproof glass.

Glass can hold a bullet perfectly
But at the same time, one stone or a blow, for example, with a hammer, is enough for the outer layer to crack and the glass becomes opaque in this place.
That is, it has ceased to perform one of its functions. And such glass requires replacement.

So it got it?
Here, for consolidation, photographs from those who do not judge for a divan, but really face "stone attacks"

Also in your opinion "laughing chickens"?

[cat Rusich]

News from February 5, 2002 Two deserters from the 31st Brigade of the Airborne Forces killed 9 people, of which only 2 were civilians when they hijacked their Zhiguli (driver and passenger) and a civilian driver of a police car. In the "last battle" 3 policemen from the ROVD were killed by organizing an ambush ... The wounded deserter was finished off by his accomplice, who later shot himself without being able to escape. In one newspaper article I read that three were preparing to escape, but the third got drunk and did not take part in the escape.

[Kot_Kuzya]

I can give you a thousand cases where civilians shot and killed policemen / policemen. But is this the reason to put policemen in armored cars?

[Voenoboz]

Knowledgeable people, what kind of wheel suffers when blowing up while driving? In this place, it seems that reinforced booking is needed, or something that has a braking effect.

[loki565]

LYNX withstands 6 kg under the wheel, but here the car is twice as high and only 2 kg

[Voenoboz]

And this is only 6kg, the crew will probably be in a shell shock, if not more.

[sabakina]

Vladimir, how much do you need? ten?

[iouris]

"It is necessary" to be guided by the "world level". I quote:
"Back in September 2010 in South Africa at the international exhibition AAD, which is held every two years, a full-scale model of the new mine-protected combat vehicle Mbombe, which was created by specialists of the Paramount Group, was presented for the first time. In 2010, the debut of a combat vehicle with a 6x6 wheel formula ...
According to the manufacturer, the anti-mine resistance of the Mbombe 6 armored vehicle is up to 10 kg in TNT equivalent when detonated under the hull, up to 14 kg when detonated under the wheel and up to 50 kg in TNT equivalent when detonated away from the armored vehicle, however, without specifying at what distance an explosion occurs. "

[DAQ]

how much do you need? ten?

It would be nice.
After all, they bury not only TNT sticks wound with electrical tape. 152mm high-explosive artillery shells are also often buried. There, mine is 7.5 kg, but not TNT. 125mm for a tank is also often used there about 2.5 kg of explosives.

[Sinugambi]

I liked the "Punisher" armor better! From one sight it becomes creepy
In general, something about these armored cars has grown to eerie ... How does it all need to be streamlined ..
In Russia, simplicity and reliability are usually in the first place ... otherwise they took the fashion from the West, they will twist up tuning and other things and you will not understand whether our armored car, or a designer ...
And so the machine is formidable of course in appearance .. But how will it behave in hostilities, then the question is ????

[Zaurbek]

This is an armored car on a civilian trolley and with a civilian resource .... more economical and cheaper than the TIGER and, judging by the engine, in the next weight category.

[Sinugambi]

Quote: Zaurbek

This is an armored car on a civilian trolley and with a civilian resource .... more economical and cheaper than the TIGER and, judging by the engine, in the next weight category.

Got it thanks for the info

[iouris]

Quote: Sinugamb

From one sight it becomes creepy

And to me already from the name.

[Sinugambi]

Quote: iouris

Quote: Sinugamb

From one sight it becomes creepy

And to me already from the name.

Yes, they came up with the name from the heart ... Then the terrorists were arrogant

We can do it whenever we want ..

[Zaurbek]

Are we waiting for the patrols to appear in Syria?

[Aleks2048]

I read the article: it seems that the machine as a whole turned out nothing ... It's a pity the price tag is not specified. Or maybe you shouldn't buy?
In general, there is a feeling that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has recently been unable to form its own wishlist ... And all from the fact that there are no clearly designated enemies of the state in the form of other states, but this is the problem of the leadership of the Russian Federation, which records everyone in a row and directly as an enemy does not call ... Well, as if the imputation of tasks that are not characteristic of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, such as the fight against terrorism, also leaves an imprint ... In my opinion, the FSB should fight against external terrorism with the internal Ministry of Internal Affairs and the National Guard ... And if this is something like ISIS, then it is enough to call things by their proper names the army units of ISIS and then welcome to the tasks of the RF Ministry of Defense. As strange as it may sound, but the specifics are in the police operations and they oh, how much different from the army, respectively, and the means used are different. And when you set the task for an army unit to defeat terrorists in small locations, then absurdities appear like a tank in the city. So that gentlemen politicians were spun in a coffin for this and spat on their graves. So, returning to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with its Wishlist ... In general, it is not the severity of the foreign policy of the Russian Federation that leads to the appearance of a zoo of funds that are good only at the parade and when the budget is cut, in a real battle this car is not worth the price and for the lives of people in such a car you can not even worry worth it - as if everyone will be screwed up. For the military police, the UAZ SUV would be enough to keep up with the advancing army. And we have a lynx that has bred, a tiger in Belarus is going to do some kind of crap ... For the needs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, a car must meet the weight and size requirements for air and sea transport ... The rest of the armor and weapons or additional equipment must also correspond to the conduct of combined arms operations, and not any crap like the fight against terrorism.
By the way, all of the above applies to small arms with appropriate exemptions and additions. Sorry, but I believe that a police officer with weapons in a crowd of civilians should have a different weapon than, say, a soldier who is at the forefront of an offensive in an army operation.

[Zaurbek]

Everything is beautiful on typewriters:
1. There is a "military" TIGER
2. Presented a replacement for UAZ
3. There are 4x4 and 6x6 MRAPs based on KAMAZ and URAL for all auxiliary patrol functions.
4. There are Urals and Kamaz trucks with just an armored cabin for logistics and superstructures such as Pantsir and artillery systems.

[rocket757]

So the police are not in order to conduct COMBAT ACTIONS ... it is necessary to protect servicemen, but not from army weapons, because then tanks also do not help for sure!

[Lynx2000]

Taking a quick glance at the photo, at first, I thought that the manufacturer was the Miass Automobile Plant.
Has KamAZ already adjusted the bonnet layout in production? The author pointed out about the cross-axle differential lock. In this case, there should be a central inter-axle lock ...

Cars will be used to provide escort and protection of military convoys

Who decided that ?! I am sure that it is not the customer (the military).

In conditions of hostilities, the combat unit will protect itself:
The marching order of troops consists of columns, the number of which depends mainly on the scale of the military formation and the number of routes. The unit marches in one column. A battalion assigned to a forward detachment, vanguard, or following a separate route, moves forward with a column of the main forces and a marching guard. The marching order of a unit or formation may include an advance detachment, a marching guard, a movement support detachment, a column of the main forces and a column of technical support and rear services.
The forward detachment is sent to preempt the enemy in capturing an advantageous line and holding it until the main forces approach, it is also entrusted with the task of conducting reconnaissance. The advance detachment is dispatched several hours before the start of the advance of the main forces in such a way that its removal would provide the commander with time to organize the battle and carry out the maneuver of forces and equipment; this takes into account the ability of the forward detachment to independently, without the support of the main forces, fight against superior enemy forces.
Marching security is organized from the front, threatened flanks and rear. From the front, the troops are guarded by vanguards, head outposts, head patrols and patrol squads (tanks). Vanguards are dispatched up to a reinforced battalion for such a distance, which provides the commander with time to make decisions and bring tasks to the troops, and the main forces to maneuver and deploy for battle. The head marching outpost is sent as part of a reinforced company, the head patrol is sent as part of a platoon, a patrol squad (tank) is sent to remove visual communication. Side outposts are sent to the threatened flanks, and stationary side outposts are deployed or landed from helicopters in especially dangerous areas, holding advantageous lines until the guarded columns pass. Security from the rear is carried out by rear marching outposts, which usually include two or three tanks for towing and protecting stragglers. Lateral and rear protection should be at a distance of up to 5 km.

Rather, to escort military columns in the rear on field trips. But no one canceled the VAI, you can drive to the training ground on the UAZ Patrol.

[faiver]

another armored toy don’t understand why for a bunch of dough

[Old tanker]

More and more assorted armored vehicles are being adopted by us. How they broke off the chain! A spares nightmare for techies. What is Bibik thinking ?! Prior to his arrival at the GABTU, they strived for unification.

[infantryman2020]

I agreed with you. But.
And under the previous boss, they did not strive for unification, there were more slogans.
And, so, yes, the diversity and ununification is off scale :(

[PCF]

... V8 diesel engine ...
... Gas tanks processed ...
Oh, diesel runs on gas, it turns out
journalists are so-a-a-kie stupid ...

[Radical]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Do you really think that the duties of the VP include the protection of military columns, and the VP needs protection from a land mine and stones flying into the glass?

A sofa expert?

When we entered Chechnya through Ingushetia in 1999, the columns were often thrown with stones. With the connivance of the local police ...
.... There were even badly injured people. one double bass from the 503rd regiment had an eye out. As far as I heard, the culprit was never found.

As I understand it, they walked on the armor, from above?

[swan49]

If you read the appendices to the Charter of the Interim Government, you can find there several proposals on the tasks of the Interim Government in martial law and in emergency situations. This is what the Interim Government is doing in Syria - the separation of the armed conflicting parties, the fight against DRGs, terrorism, etc. That is, we have a large number of pages about the commandant's office, VAI, etc. and just a few of the most important sentences in the app. Apparently, it was for these tasks that four battalions were formed in the VP, and the training of platoon commanders began at the Moscow Military District. I don’t know how the VP will share the areas of responsibility with the Russian Guard. So, according to Kozma Prutkov - "If you see a buffalo inscription on an elephant's cage, don't believe your eyes!"

[Slipper 2]

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