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The military police received the first batch of "Patrol" armored vehicles

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The military police received the first batch of "Patrol" armored vehicles

The first batch of Patrol armored vehicles entered service with the military police. The solemn ceremony of handing over the vehicles took place at the Alabino training ground in the Moscow region. This is reported by the Ministry of Defense.


The first batch handed over to the military police consisted of five "special vehicles" of the military police "Patrol". The equipment was supplied as part of the state defense order.

Today we are adopting armored vehicles "Patrol", which have already been successfully tested, into service with military police units. The vehicles will be used to provide escort and protection of military convoys, patrolling and, most importantly, to protect the crew from the damaging action of small arms. weapons and explosive devices

- said the head of the Main Directorate of the Military Police of the Russian Defense Ministry, Colonel-General Sergei Kuralenko.

As they say in the message, the Patrol armored car is built on the KamAZ chassis. The body is made in the form of an armored capsule and provides protection against damage by small arms of 5,45 and 7,62 caliber. The car can withstand explosive detonation up to 2 kg in TNT equivalent under the wheels, as well as under the bottom. The gas tanks are treated with a special compound that tightens the bullet holes.

Earlier armored vehicles "Patrol" entered service with divisions of "Rosgvardia".

Wheel arrangement 4x4, curb weight 11700 kg, V8 diesel KAMAZ-740.652-260 engine, engine power 260 HP, mechanical transmission, five-speed, two-stage transfer case with a lockable cross-axle differential, crew 2 + 8 people, overall dimensions 7340x2550x2950 mm, ground clearance 370 mm, cruising range 1000 km.
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  1. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 31 October 2020 09: 16 New
    +6
    "The car can withstand explosive detonation up to 2 kg in TNT equivalent under the wheels"
    2 kg under the wheel is weak for such a large car carrying a lot of people
    1. iouris
      iouris 31 October 2020 09: 22 New
      -36 qualifying.
      The car carries the cadets, and it says: "People". It's funny.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 31 October 2020 09: 27 New
        +2
        Are the cadets like robots? belay
        1. Mouse
          Mouse 31 October 2020 09: 29 New
          -3
          Ah ... inhumans ... wassat
      2. BLADFROST
        BLADFROST 31 October 2020 21: 09 New
        +1
        Yes to urge! Hihitun!
    2. for
      for 31 October 2020 09: 50 New
      -12 qualifying.
      Quote: _Ugene_
      withstands explosive detonation up to 2 kg in TNT equivalent under the wheels "

      Well, the "opposition" will no longer be planted. It can be sold to top managers and businessmen, issued to deputies, senators and officials of all stripes.
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 31 October 2020 10: 01 New
        11
        and where does the opposition? a car for the military police, not for the police
        1. BARKAS
          BARKAS 31 October 2020 11: 29 New
          +3
          what does the opposition have to do with it?

          Not our Syrian apparently.
        2. for
          for 31 October 2020 11: 54 New
          -2
          Quote: _Ugene_
          military police, not police

          Police, she is the police., Even though the military, though civil. Dual-use technique.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 31 October 2020 11: 59 New
            +2
            Quote: for
            Police, she is the police., Even though the military, though civil.

            Advance run, retreat run ...
          2. _Ugene_
            _Ugene_ 31 October 2020 15: 44 New
            +2
            the military police move where the troops are, there the probability of an explosion is maximum, but the ordinary police will mine the highway in a metropolis?
    3. YOUR
      YOUR 31 October 2020 10: 49 New
      0
      How much is needed?
      So for information, there are so many explosives in an anti-tank mine.
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 31 October 2020 10: 54 New
        +8
        Iveco LMV, which we have a Lynx, is the size of a Tiger and holds 6kg under the wheel
        So for information, our anti-tank mines - TM-62M 7,5 kg of TNT, TM-89 6.7 kg
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 31 October 2020 11: 28 New
          +3
          Well, then those who are in the car are not lucky. Developers and acceptors saved
        2. lucul
          lucul 31 October 2020 13: 00 New
          +5
          Iveco LMV, which we have a Lynx, is the size of a Tiger and holds 6kg under the wheel
          So for information, our anti-tank mines - TM-62M 7,5 kg of TNT, TM-89 6.7 kg

          Everything depends on the price. To hold a 6 kg TNT explosion, other expensive body / frame alloys are needed. And then they took the chassis from Kamaz and the engine from it, and surrounded it with simple armor - a very economical option.
        3. KCA
          KCA 1 November 2020 07: 45 New
          -2
          When buying a license for Iveco:
          According to the developer, IVECO LMV can withstand the detonation of 6 kg of explosives in TNT equivalent, but he prohibited detonation tests.
      2. hohkn
        hohkn 31 October 2020 16: 15 New
        0
        Quote: YOUR
        So for information, there are so many explosives in an anti-tank mine.

        TM-89 - almost 7 kg. TM-62M - 8 kg.
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 1 November 2020 00: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: hohkn
          Quote: YOUR
          So for information, there are so many explosives in an anti-tank mine.

          TM-89 - almost 7 kg. TM-62M - 8 kg.
          And if TM-83? ...
          tm-83
          TM-83
          I just want to say that it is not difficult to make a land mine with a warhead of more than 6kg of tol, even in "field conditions" ... And the calculations of what kind of explosion the "car" holds under the wheel are rather arbitrary. Today the PTM-5 anti-tank mine has already appeared and now the mines are "hitting from above" ...
          1. hohkn
            hohkn 2 November 2020 14: 10 New
            0
            Quote: cat Rusich
            And if TM-83? ...

            So it is also cumulative. It hits the side.
            1. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 2 November 2020 19: 52 New
              0
              Quote: hohkn
              Quote: cat Rusich
              And if TM-83? ...

              So it is also cumulative. It hits the side.

              So about the "godfather" and the conversation ... Everyone is "concerned" how much BB (tol) the "car" holds under the wheel, but they say little about the fact that when attacking a "car" in the "rear" they will attack from the flank. And the attackers will have an RPG ... It is enough just to stop the car by damaging the wheel ... The TM-83 is also an anti-tank mine, in the event of an "organized" attack, they can deliver such an anti-tank mine.
              1. hohkn
                hohkn 2 November 2020 21: 15 New
                0
                Quote: cat Rusich
                in the event of an "organized" attack, they can deliver such an anti-tank mine.

                So I was not going to argue with that.
    4. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 31 October 2020 11: 29 New
      -5
      We should also put protection on the roof of the car from drones, in the light of the events in Karabakh
    5. svp67
      svp67 31 October 2020 12: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: _Ugene_
      2 kg under the wheel is weak for such a large car carrying a lot of people

      "Tiger" 600 grams under the wheel, so this "Patrol" is clearly better. That's just the weight ... you can't carry it with a light transport
    6. Runway
      Runway 31 October 2020 12: 17 New
      +1
      And two kilos for the roof? Near rear commandant's car. Columns bmto accompany. Again, in the rear, where the likelihood of running into a group is relatively minimized (as well as stupidity with mining).
      Peacetime monster.
    7. Bar1
      Bar1 1 November 2020 09: 04 New
      -2
      they don't even write about the box and the bridges. But this is an import, the same alice. These are ours going across Syria, since the box has flown. And where to send an application for the purchase of a box, but directly to pin_dos, in the same place in Syria.
      -Hey Americans, will you sell us your boxes?
      -Yes sell for milen dollars
      and what to take or not to take? Not taking means walking on foot.
      This will be the reality from the current MO.
  2. iouris
    iouris 31 October 2020 09: 21 New
    -4
    Original name. Creatively.
  3. evgen1221
    evgen1221 31 October 2020 09: 23 New
    13
    And why are there such inconsistencies in the models of lightweight?
    1. Tugarin
      Tugarin 31 October 2020 10: 08 New
      20
      Quote: evgen1221
      What is the difference between the models of light weight?

      All manufacturers want to eat.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 31 October 2020 13: 16 New
        +6
        And for unification and sekas with spare parts do not care.
        1. ZEMCH
          ZEMCH 1 November 2020 01: 34 New
          0
          Quote: evgen1221
          And for unification and sekas with spare parts do not care.

          On the KAMAZ frame, there are no problems with unification, and the engine is serial wink
          1. evgen1221
            evgen1221 2 November 2020 11: 59 New
            0
            And besides the engine in 4 types of mrap, in these cars there is clearly a lot of non-interchangeable parts (the body is clearly different), We would have made 2 types of cars and while there is no money, but you would go to war for an infinite time.
    2. _Ugene_
      _Ugene_ 31 October 2020 15: 48 New
      +6
      2kg under the wheel is not MRAP but a misunderstanding
  4. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 09: 27 New
    0
    It seems that the military police should monitor the law and order in the troops and the army, and not
    providing escort and protection of military convoys, patrolling and, most importantly, protecting the crew from the damaging effects of small arms and explosive devices

    Fugitive soldiers and all sorts of drunken borogozy are not terrorists, they will not plant landmines under the VP vehicles, and even more so they will not attack military columns. They also covered the windows with nets, laughing at the chickens. As if deserters and AWOLs would throw stones at the VP.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 31 October 2020 10: 12 New
      +2
      Kuzma Kuzmich, do you really think this car is against self-propelled vehicles? belay
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 10: 24 New
        +2
        Do you really think that the duties of the VP include the protection of military columns, and the VP needs protection from a land mine and stones flying into the glass? If you follow your logic, then PPS-nicknames also need to be issued armored cars instead of Grants and Largus.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 31 October 2020 12: 09 New
          +9
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          Do you really think that the duties of the VP include the protection of military columns, and the VP needs protection from a land mine and stones flying into the glass?

          A sofa expert?

          When we entered Chechnya through Ingushetia in 1999, the columns were often thrown with stones. With the connivance of the local police.
          Apparently the "narot" did not want us to stop the chaos. With explosions taken prisoner and the like. And that is why the "narot" "fought" Well, do not shoot at them.

          There were even badly injured people. one double bass from the 503rd regiment had an eye out. As far as I heard, the culprit was never found.

          Likewise with those who rode with columns in Tskhinval. Stones were regularly thrown in Georgian villages.
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 12: 13 New
            -2
            Quote: Spade
            When we entered Chechnya through Ingushetia in 1999, the columns were often thrown with stones. With the connivance of the local police.
            Apparently the "narot" did not want us to stop the chaos. With explosions taken prisoner and the like. And that is why the "narot" "fought" Well, do not shoot at them.

            There were even badly injured people. one double bass from the 503rd regiment had an eye out. As far as I heard, the culprit was never found.

            Likewise with those who rode with columns in Tskhinval. Stones were regularly thrown in Georgian villages.

            DPS officers also SOMETIMES shoot from AK and even heavier weapons. So let's equip all DPS nicknames with armored cars! Oh yes, American policemen also SOMETIMES shoot from machine guns. But for some reason, the Americans don't put their cops in armored cars.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 31 October 2020 12: 53 New
              +2
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              DPS officers also SOMETIMES shoot from AK and even heavier weapons. So let's equip all DPS nicknames with armored cars!

              Come on, it's high time ...
              But the trouble is that people like you will immediately start screaming about the fact that "they are using it to fight the people" and "it would be better if they gave money to pensioners"
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 22: 49 New
                +1
                Ordinary people are also SOMETIMES shot and cut with knives. But for some reason you don’t scream that people need to hand out body armor, and you yourself don’t even wear crappy chain mail.
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 31 October 2020 10: 52 New
      -5
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      Runaway soldiers and all sorts of drunken hounds are not terrorists

      Do you know that the Interim Government is engaged in the fight against terrorists in Syria?
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 11: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Dart2027
        Do you know that the Interim Government is engaged in the fight against terrorists in Syria?


        Perhaps, according to your "logic", the Federal Penitentiary Service and the Ministry of Emergency Situations are also engaged in the fight against terrorists in Syria? You, sick one, at least read on the MO website what the VP is doing.
        You will also write that the RF VP is = Waffen SS wassat
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 31 October 2020 11: 09 New
          -4
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          You, sick one, at least read on the MO website what the VP is doing.

          MOSCOW, March 29 - RIA Novosti. Russian military police continue to patrol the Syrian-Turkish border along routes in the Syrian provinces of Aleppo and Haseke, Rear Admiral Oleg Zhuravlev, head of the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of Warring Parties (CPVS) in Syria, said at a briefing.
          https://ria.ru/20200329/1569326255.html

          Any more questions?
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 11: 28 New
            0
            For you
            Quote: Dart2027
            Russian military police continue to patrol the Syrian-Turkish border along routes in the Syrian provinces of Aleppo and Haseke

            the same thing, what to beat the barmaley with heavy weapons and attack their positions? You are definitely confusing the RF VP with the Waffen SS. Does it not occur to you that the VP monitors the legality of the actions of the RF Armed Forces on this line of contact and suppresses the attempts of deserters to escape from the line of contact or / and cross over to the side of the enemy? Maybe in your reality, the VP has tank troops, heavy artillery and aviation? If the theme of the Third Reich is so close to you, then the RF Air Force can be compared with the activities of the Feljandarmerie of the Wehrmacht. But I hope that even you will not argue that the feljandarms went on the attack against the regular units of the Red Army and the allies? The duties of the RF Ministry of Defense include observance of the orders of the Ministry of Defense by regular units, but not participation in hostilities issued by the RF Ministry of Defense for regular units.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 31 October 2020 12: 11 New
              0
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              It does not occur to you that the VP monitors the legality of the actions of the RF Armed Forces on this line of contact, and suppresses attempts by deserters to escape from the line of contact

              laughing laughing laughing laughing
              Game....

              No, they do not "follow", they patrol.
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 12: 15 New
                -2
                Quote: Spade

                Game....

                No, they do not "follow", they patrol.

                Well, yes, they just keep order. They don't fight and don't attack. Is this a discovery for you? I do not put quotation marks on purpose, since this is clearly an opening for you.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 31 October 2020 12: 18 New
                  0
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  Well, yes, they just keep order. They don't fight and don't attack.

                  And still it is a fight against terrorism.
                  Is this a discovery for you?
                  laughing laughing laughing
                  1. Kot_Kuzya
                    Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 12: 21 New
                    0
                    You do not leave the topic. Is the Russian VP going to attack the Barmaley and the VP has heavy artillery, tanks and the possibility of using nuclear weapons?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 31 October 2020 12: 52 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                      You do not leave the topic.

                      Where am I going?
                      Once again, for you personally: patrolling the routes of supply and transportation of troops, you at least burst, is part of the fighting ...
                      And if the goal of hostilities is to fight terrorism, then patrolling the roads is also part of that fight.

                      So that even such a "fighter for the nart" as you would understand: if you do not have nails, then going to the store for them is part of making a fence.
            2. Dart2027
              Dart2027 31 October 2020 13: 54 New
              -2
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              is the same as hitting the barmalei with heavy weapons and attacking their positions
              I understand that there is nothing clever to argue with?
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              You are definitely confusing the RF VP with the Waffen SS.
              Who hurts.
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              It does not occur to you that the VP monitors the legality of the actions of the RF Armed Forces on this line of contact
              In a country where a war with terrorists has been going on for several years, and the war is in the literal, not figurative sense of the word.
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              If the topic of the Third Reich is so close to you, then
              I know very well that in the war with the Third Reich, the NKVD troops fought on the front line when it was necessary and washed themselves with blood precisely because of the lack of heavy weapons.
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              The duties of the RF VP include observance of orders of the Ministry of Defense by regular units, but not participation in hostilities.
              The duties of the VP include the execution of orders of the Ministry of Defense, and what task they will be given is another question.
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 22: 56 New
                +2
                Quote: Dart2027
                I know very well that in the war with the Third Reich, the NKVD troops fought on the front line when it was necessary and washed themselves with blood precisely because of the lack of heavy weapons.

                Do not confuse the NKVD, which at that time included the border troops, with the FZh of the Reich. I know very well that the first battles on the border were accepted by the troops of the NKVD, in the same Brest fortress many border guards of the NKVD troops fought heroically, and even then, right up to the battle of Moscow, militiamen volunteered en masse in the brigades and divisions of the NKVD.
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 1 November 2020 07: 14 New
                  0
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  Do not confuse the NKVD, which then included the border troops

                  And not only they, but also operational troops, escort troops, troops of the NKVD for the protection of railway structures and especially important industrial enterprises.
                  More tales will be?
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 31 October 2020 12: 06 New
          -1
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          Would you be sick

          Are you being rude ...?
          at least read on the MO website what the VP is doing.

          Is this the source of Russian law?
          Especially for the sick:
          The functions of the RF Armed Forces are defined in two legal acts:
          Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of March 25.03.2015, 161 N 01.07.2020 (as amended of July XNUMX, XNUMX) "On Approval of the Charter of the Military Police of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and Amendments to Some Acts of the President of the Russian Federation"

          http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_177125/063d2967b302e06795709c77e6706b93022b2e9b/
          Article 20 and
          Charter of the RF Armed Forces, approved by the above Decree ...

          http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_177125/f709905c40ee7024c0b4f091aca4615c7476cfc7/
          What you read on the website of the RF Ministry of Defense is project Federal Law "On the Military Police of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and Amendments to Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation" (project)
          https://doc.mil.ru/documents/projects/more.htm?id=11709428%40morfNPAProject
          I already wrote here about the need for this Federal Law, well, they were honored, at least to write a project ...
          What we see in the SAR indicates the need to expand the functions of the RF AF of the RF Armed Forces, which in fact are now being performed, going beyond their competence ... and using V and VT, which are not provided for by the Charter of the RF AF ...
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 12: 10 New
            0
            Quote: Lara Croft
            What we see in the SAR indicates the need to expand the functions of the RF AF of the RF Armed Forces, which in fact are now being performed, going beyond their competence ... and using V and VT, which are not provided for by the Charter of the RF AF ...

            Yes Yes. By your logic, the RF VP replaces the entire RF Defense Ministry and becomes an analogue of the Waffen SS. Aren't you funny yourself? Can you cite at least one document where heavy artillery and tank troops are subordinate to the VP.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 31 October 2020 12: 54 New
              -2
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              Quote: Lara Croft
              What we see in the SAR indicates the need to expand the functions of the RF AF of the RF Armed Forces, which in fact are now being performed, going beyond their competence ... and using V and VT, which are not provided for by the Charter of the RF AF ...

              Yes Yes.

              Well, I'm glad for you to have mastered the material offered for study ...
              According to your logic, the RF VP replaces the entire RF Ministry of Defense

              From what my suggestions did you come to this conclusion?
              and becomes an analogue of the Waffen SS.

              It seems to me that you are fixated on this phrase, write about it in almost all comments, do you have something in common with "SS"?
              Can you cite at least one document where heavy artillery and tank troops are subordinate to the VP.

              Why should I cite such (and your) nonsense as an example, if I have never written about it ...
              And the list of weapons of the Air Force of the RF Armed Forces is indicated in the legal acts I have cited ....
              Apparently all the same they did not read them and did not master ...
        3. AlexVas44
          AlexVas44 1 November 2020 06: 29 New
          0
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          You will also write that the RF VP is = Waffen SS

          Well, if we move on to such a comparison, then closer is the Feldgendarmerie (German Feldgendarmerie). These are the ones who are ruthless to cowards and deserters ...
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 31 October 2020 11: 43 New
        -3
        Quote: Dart2027
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
        Runaway soldiers and all sorts of drunken hounds are not terrorists

        Do you know that the Interim Government is engaged in the fight against terrorists in Syria?

        As reported by the Russian Ministry of Defense, "Units of the Russian military police will provide assistance in ensuring the safety of the population and maintaining law and order, patrolling in designated areas, and will also assist in the withdrawal of Kurdish self-defense units and their weapons 30 km from the Syrian-Turkish border," the message says
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 31 October 2020 13: 56 New
          -2
          Quote: RUSS
          Units of the Russian military police will provide assistance in ensuring the safety of the population and maintaining law and order, patrolling in designated areas, and will also assist in the withdrawal of Kurdish self-defense units and their weapons 30 km from the Syrian-Turkish border

          AND? I have already written in translation from diplomatic to human.
    3. Catfish
      Catfish 31 October 2020 10: 53 New
      -1
      You probably didn't pay attention to this line.
      Earlier armored vehicles "Patrol" entered service with divisions of "Rosgvardia".
      , then everything becomes clear with the nets, and since everything new in our country comes into service with units aimed at fighting the "internal enemy", then, first of all, these armored cars received the gendarmes. And for the army - at last, and they did not redo it, and so they should be satisfied.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 31 October 2020 11: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Sea Cat
        aimed at fighting the "internal enemy"

        Forgot to mention the poor and the children
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 31 October 2020 11: 18 New
          -2
          And why remember them does not make sense laughing
          And what was the minus for you? When I wrote about the gendarmes, I knew that the uryakalki would slap, but I was really tired of all these pseudo-patriots, they would once again have the power to lick the fillets, at least in this way. fellow
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 31 October 2020 12: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: Dart2027
          Quote: Sea Cat
          aimed at fighting the "internal enemy"

          Forgot to mention the poor and the children

          Yeah. Such bearded ones, with machine guns.
          These "fighters for the narot against the Russian Guards" love them very dearly. They can't live straight when they begin to pinch.
    4. Lopatov
      Lopatov 31 October 2020 12: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      They also covered the windows with nets, laughing at the chickens.

      Exactly.
      The country is lumpy, it will not become poorer to change the blocks of armored glass. In total, that is about 22 thousand per square, which is nonsense.

      For reference: bulletproof glass can be easily damaged by ordinary stone.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 12: 07 New
        -2
        Quote: Spade
        For reference: bulletproof glass can be easily damaged by ordinary stone.

        If bulletproof glass can be spoiled with an ordinary stone, then this is not glass, but ordinary. You still cry that the bulletproof vest can be ruined by an ordinary stone.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 31 October 2020 13: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          If bulletproof glass can be spoiled with an ordinary stone, then this is not glass, but ordinary.

          "I congratulate you, Sharik ...." (c)
          But you are a complete oak in the subject
          Incredible!
          laughing laughing laughing laughing
          Do you even know what it is, bulletproof glass?
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 31 October 2020 22: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: Spade
            Do you even know what it is, bulletproof glass?

            I know. And I know that if bulletproof glass can be broken with an ordinary stone, then it is guano, not bulletproof glass. You, I hope, will not argue that you need to cover the armor of armored vehicles with a mesh from stones? And I also hope you know that the destruction and penetration of a bullet is much larger than a regular stone? Or have you tried nothing further than the slingshot?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 1 November 2020 10: 03 New
              0
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              I know.

              Unlikely

              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              And I know that if bulletproof glass can be broken with an ordinary stone, then it is guano, not bulletproof glass.

              laughing laughing laughing
              Glass can hold a bullet perfectly
              But at the same time, one stone or a blow, for example, with a hammer, is enough for the outer layer to crack and the glass becomes opaque in this place.
              That is, it has ceased to perform one of its functions. And such glass requires replacement.

              So it got it?
              Here, for consolidation, photographs from those who do not judge for a divan, but really face "stone attacks"




              Also in your opinion "laughing chickens"?
    5. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 1 November 2020 00: 41 New
      -1
      News from February 5, 2002 Two deserters from the 31st Brigade of the Airborne Forces killed 9 people, of which only 2 were civilians when they hijacked their Zhiguli (driver and passenger) and a civilian driver of a police car. In the "last battle" 3 policemen from the ROVD were killed by organizing an ambush ... The wounded deserter was finished off by his accomplice, who later shot himself without being able to escape. In one newspaper article I read that three were preparing to escape, but the third got drunk and did not take part in the escape.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 1 November 2020 07: 51 New
        +1
        I can give you a thousand cases where civilians shot and killed policemen / policemen. But is this the reason to put policemen in armored cars?
  5. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 31 October 2020 09: 36 New
    +1
    Knowledgeable people, what kind of wheel suffers when blowing up while driving? In this place, it seems that reinforced booking is needed, or something that has a braking effect.
    1. loki565
      loki565 31 October 2020 09: 54 New
      +3
      LYNX withstands 6 kg under the wheel, but here the car is twice as high and only 2 kg
    2. VOENOBOZ
      VOENOBOZ 31 October 2020 10: 04 New
      -1
      And this is only 6kg, the crew will probably be in a shell shock, if not more.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 31 October 2020 10: 14 New
        0
        Vladimir, how much do you need? ten?
        1. iouris
          iouris 31 October 2020 10: 44 New
          -2
          "It is necessary" to be guided by the "world level". I quote:
          "Back in September 2010 in South Africa at the international exhibition AAD, which is held every two years, a full-scale model of the new mine-protected combat vehicle Mbombe, which was created by specialists of the Paramount Group, was presented for the first time. In 2010, the debut of a combat vehicle with a 6x6 wheel formula ...
          According to the manufacturer, the anti-mine resistance of the Mbombe 6 armored vehicle is up to 10 kg in TNT equivalent when detonated under the hull, up to 14 kg when detonated under the wheel and up to 50 kg in TNT equivalent when detonated away from the armored vehicle, however, without specifying at what distance an explosion occurs. "
        2. Nasdaq
          Nasdaq 31 October 2020 10: 51 New
          +2
          how much do you need? ten?

          It would be nice.
          After all, they bury not only TNT sticks wound with electrical tape. 152mm high-explosive artillery shells are also often buried. There, mine is 7.5 kg, but not TNT. 125mm for a tank is also often used there about 2.5 kg of explosives.
  6. Sinugamb
    Sinugamb 31 October 2020 09: 43 New
    +5
    I liked the "Punisher" armor better! From one sight it becomes creepy hi
    In general, something about these armored cars has grown to eerie ... How does it all need to be streamlined ..
    In Russia, simplicity and reliability are usually in the first place ... otherwise they took the fashion from the West, they will twist up tuning and other things and you will not understand whether our armored car, or a designer ...
    And so the machine is formidable of course in appearance .. But how will it behave in hostilities, then the question is ????
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 31 October 2020 10: 16 New
      +4
      This is an armored car on a civilian trolley and with a civilian resource .... more economical and cheaper than the TIGER and, judging by the engine, in the next weight category.
      1. Sinugamb
        Sinugamb 31 October 2020 10: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Zaurbek
        This is an armored car on a civilian trolley and with a civilian resource .... more economical and cheaper than the TIGER and, judging by the engine, in the next weight category.

        Got it thanks for the info hi
    2. iouris
      iouris 31 October 2020 10: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Sinugamb
      From one sight it becomes creepy

      And to me already from the name.
      1. Sinugamb
        Sinugamb 31 October 2020 11: 02 New
        -1
        Quote: iouris
        Quote: Sinugamb
        From one sight it becomes creepy

        And to me already from the name.

        Yes, they came up with the name from the heart ... Then the terrorists were arrogant

        We can do it whenever we want .. bully
  7. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 31 October 2020 10: 16 New
    +1
    Are we waiting for the patrols to appear in Syria?
  8. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 31 October 2020 10: 30 New
    +3
    I read the article: it seems that the machine as a whole turned out nothing ... It's a pity the price tag is not specified. Or maybe you shouldn't buy?
    In general, there is a feeling that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has recently been unable to form its own wishlist ... And all from the fact that there are no clearly designated enemies of the state in the form of other states, but this is the problem of the leadership of the Russian Federation, which records everyone in a row and directly as an enemy does not call ... Well, as if the imputation of tasks that are not characteristic of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, such as the fight against terrorism, also leaves an imprint ... In my opinion, the FSB should fight against external terrorism with the internal Ministry of Internal Affairs and the National Guard ... And if this is something like ISIS, then it is enough to call things by their proper names the army units of ISIS and then welcome to the tasks of the RF Ministry of Defense. As strange as it may sound, but the specifics are in the police operations and they oh, how much different from the army, respectively, and the means used are different. And when you set the task for an army unit to defeat terrorists in small locations, then absurdities appear like a tank in the city. So that gentlemen politicians were spun in a coffin for this and spat on their graves. So, returning to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with its Wishlist ... In general, it is not the severity of the foreign policy of the Russian Federation that leads to the appearance of a zoo of funds that are good only at the parade and when the budget is cut, in a real battle this car is not worth the price and for the lives of people in such a car you can not even worry worth it - as if everyone will be screwed up. For the military police, the UAZ SUV would be enough to keep up with the advancing army. And we have a lynx that has bred, a tiger in Belarus is going to do some kind of crap ... For the needs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, a car must meet the weight and size requirements for air and sea transport ... The rest of the armor and weapons or additional equipment must also correspond to the conduct of combined arms operations, and not any crap like the fight against terrorism.
    By the way, all of the above applies to small arms with appropriate exemptions and additions. Sorry, but I believe that a police officer with weapons in a crowd of civilians should have a different weapon than, say, a soldier who is at the forefront of an offensive in an army operation.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 31 October 2020 10: 49 New
      +1
      Everything is beautiful on typewriters:
      1. There is a "military" TIGER
      2. Presented a replacement for UAZ
      3. There are 4x4 and 6x6 MRAPs based on KAMAZ and URAL for all auxiliary patrol functions.
      4. There are Urals and Kamaz trucks with just an armored cabin for logistics and superstructures such as Pantsir and artillery systems.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 31 October 2020 10: 42 New
    0
    So the police are not in order to conduct COMBAT ACTIONS ... it is necessary to protect servicemen, but not from army weapons, because then tanks also do not help for sure!
  10. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 31 October 2020 10: 44 New
    +3
    Taking a quick glance at the photo, at first, I thought that the manufacturer was the Miass Automobile Plant.
    Has KamAZ already adjusted the bonnet layout in production? The author pointed out about the cross-axle differential lock. In this case, there should be a central inter-axle lock ...
    Cars will be used to provide escort and protection of military convoys

    recourse Who decided that ?! I am sure that it is not the customer (the military).

    In conditions of hostilities, the combat unit will protect itself:
    The marching order of troops consists of columns, the number of which depends mainly on the scale of the military formation and the number of routes. The unit marches in one column. A battalion assigned to a forward detachment, vanguard, or following a separate route, moves forward with a column of the main forces and a marching guard. The marching order of a unit or formation may include an advance detachment, a marching guard, a movement support detachment, a column of the main forces and a column of technical support and rear services.
    The forward detachment is sent to preempt the enemy in capturing an advantageous line and holding it until the main forces approach, it is also entrusted with the task of conducting reconnaissance. The advance detachment is dispatched several hours before the start of the advance of the main forces in such a way that its removal would provide the commander with time to organize the battle and carry out the maneuver of forces and equipment; this takes into account the ability of the forward detachment to independently, without the support of the main forces, fight against superior enemy forces.
    Marching security is organized from the front, threatened flanks and rear. From the front, the troops are guarded by vanguards, head outposts, head patrols and patrol squads (tanks). Vanguards are dispatched up to a reinforced battalion for such a distance, which provides the commander with time to make decisions and bring tasks to the troops, and the main forces to maneuver and deploy for battle. The head marching outpost is sent as part of a reinforced company, the head patrol is sent as part of a platoon, a patrol squad (tank) is sent to remove visual communication. Side outposts are sent to the threatened flanks, and stationary side outposts are deployed or landed from helicopters in especially dangerous areas, holding advantageous lines until the guarded columns pass. Security from the rear is carried out by rear marching outposts, which usually include two or three tanks for towing and protecting stragglers. Lateral and rear protection should be at a distance of up to 5 km.

    Rather, to escort military columns in the rear on field trips. But no one canceled the VAI, you can drive to the training ground on the UAZ Patrol.
  11. faiver
    faiver 31 October 2020 10: 59 New
    +2
    another armored toy don’t understand why for a bunch of dough
  12. Old tanker
    Old tanker 31 October 2020 11: 18 New
    +1
    More and more assorted armored vehicles are being adopted by us. How they broke off the chain! A spares nightmare for techies. What is Bibik thinking ?! Prior to his arrival at the GABTU, they strived for unification.
    1. infantryman2020
      infantryman2020 31 October 2020 14: 13 New
      0
      I agreed with you. But.
      And under the previous boss, they did not strive for unification, there were more slogans.
      And, so, yes, the diversity and ununification is off scale :(
  13. PCF
    PCF 31 October 2020 21: 24 New
    0
    ... V8 diesel engine ...
    ... Gas tanks processed ...
    Oh, diesel runs on gas, it turns out
    journalists are so-a-a-kie stupid ...
  14. Radikal
    Radikal 31 October 2020 23: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    Do you really think that the duties of the VP include the protection of military columns, and the VP needs protection from a land mine and stones flying into the glass?

    A sofa expert?

    When we entered Chechnya through Ingushetia in 1999, the columns were often thrown with stones. With the connivance of the local police ...
    .... There were even badly injured people. one double bass from the 503rd regiment had an eye out. As far as I heard, the culprit was never found.

    As I understand it, they walked on the armor, from above? sad
  15. swan49
    swan49 1 November 2020 00: 40 New
    0
    If you read the appendices to the Charter of the Interim Government, you can find there several proposals on the tasks of the Interim Government in martial law and in emergency situations. This is what the Interim Government is doing in Syria - the separation of the armed conflicting parties, the fight against DRGs, terrorism, etc. That is, we have a large number of pages about the commandant's office, VAI, etc. and just a few of the most important sentences in the app. Apparently, it was for these tasks that four battalions were formed in the VP, and the training of platoon commanders began at the Moscow Military District. I don’t know how the VP will share the areas of responsibility with the Russian Guard. So, according to Kozma Prutkov - "If you see a buffalo inscription on an elephant's cage, don't believe your eyes!"
  16. Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 1 November 2020 07: 48 New
    -1
    garbage truck antipulkin tongue