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Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry showed the destruction of the Osa air defense system of the Armenian army

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Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry showed the destruction of the Osa air defense system of the Armenian army

The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan announced the destruction of the Osa anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) of the Armenian army. The republic's military department posted the corresponding video on its official YouTube channel.


On Friday, October 30, at about 20:25, units of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan in the Aghdam direction of the front destroyed the Osa anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) belonging to the Armenian army

- said in the explanation to the posted video.

According to the Ministry of Defense, units of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces continue to destroy enemy personnel and weapons during the counter-offensive operation.


In addition, the Azerbaijani military posted a video of targeted strikes against the manpower and equipment of the Armenian army using drones.

Units of the Azerbaijan Army destroyed enemy forces and military assets with precise strikes

- said the Ministry of Defense.


In turn, Yerevan accused Baku of using phosphorus munitions on the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. According to the Ombudsman of Armenia Arman Tatoyan, units of the Azerbaijani army with such ammunition fire at forests near settlements where the local population is hiding during the day and night during attacks.

Azerbaijan uses phosphorus-containing weapons that have chemical elements weapons... It is used in forests near settlements

- wrote Tatoyan on his Facebook page.

Meanwhile, on Friday in Geneva, a meeting was held between the foreign ministers of Azerbaijan and Armenia, which lasted six hours. The parties agreed to take a number of steps to comply with the ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh, including not to deliver deliberate strikes against the civilian population and non-military targets.
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  1. MTN
    MTN 31 October 2020 07: 27 New
    +4
    Whoever owns the air also owns the earth!
    1. Commissar77
      Commissar77 31 October 2020 07: 33 New
      +7
      "Wasp" (GRAU index - 9K33, according to the classification of the US Defense Ministry and NATO: SA-8 Gecko ("Gecko")) - Soviet automated military anti-aircraft missile system. The complex is all-weather and is designed to cover the forces and assets of a motorized rifle (tank) division in all types of combat operations.

      Development began on October 27, 1960, entered service on October 4, 1971. The complex is equipped with four 9M33 anti-aircraft guided missiles, the Osa-AK modification has 6 9M33M2 missiles, and the Osa-AKM - 6 9M33M3 missiles. At the end of 2007, it is the most numerous military air defense complex in Russia. More than 400 vehicles are in service


      Adopted on October 4, 1971 .......

      9K33M3 "Osa-AKM" Adopted in 1980 ........

      40 years ...
      1. Avior
        Avior 31 October 2020 09: 50 New
        10
        The last sentence in your quote says that there are big problems in the Russian military air defense
        ... At the end of 2007, it is the most numerous military air defense complex in Russia. More than 400 vehicles are in service [3].
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 31 October 2020 11: 19 New
          -8
          Quote: MTN
          Whoever owns the air also owns the earth!

          Quote: Dmitriy444
          Ours need to draw conclusions about this war, so we have strained with shock drones.

          Directly removed from the tongue!

          Our military experts directly declare that the emphasis of Russia in armament on defensive weapons is clearly not enough to win the war under the new conditions. The defenders of Russia will not be able to sit out only on their own territory, as in the Middle Ages in a fortress surrounded and attacked by the enemy - they need effective massive offensive weapons.
          What is this possible only if the DEFENSIVE military strategy of Russia is changed to an OFFENSIVE one, because in principle, in practice there is NO 100% successful defense, and "holes" in the same air defense in war and in battle on the ground may turn out to be "holes" with the corresponding the catastrophic consequences of a DEFEAT then for oneself in technology, manpower, etc.
          This is what we observe in practice in the civil war between Armenians and Azerbaijanis in Nagorno Karabakh. Moreover, this is a victory not so much of Azerbaijanis, but 2/3 of Erdogan's victory of the forbidden "Muslim brother" Turkey, with which Aliyev signed up for friendship.

          Moreover, our military experts have been talking about this for a long time - in my opinion, for 3-4 years only in my memory. That Russia will only have to "DEFEND" in preparation for the war! That the aggressive West in the war of conquest against Russia will not stop it! Quite the opposite:
          1. The West considers the DEFENSIVE military strategy of the Russian Federation as a manifestation of Russia's weakness in relation to anti-Russian offensive countries!
          2. That the West hopes that when Russia realizes this, it may turn out that it will be too late for it.
          3. That the modern approach of the Defense Ministry, the General Staff and the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Federation (we are talking about 3 years ago) is either outdated unprofessionalism, or a betrayal of the country "from above".
          1. Ganja
            Ganja 31 October 2020 21: 22 New
            0
            Listen, clever Azerbaijan does not need the services of mercenaries, for Russia the train to the west left a long time ago when Gorbach, with the current billionaires Forbsnikov, and the Armenians, destroyed the USSR. What Erdogan is doing is an adequate response to the machinations of the Armenians who, moreover, occupied the lands of Azerbaijan and still could not shut up and are not sarcastic and offending. You can also say thank you when the same Armenians start to rock the boat in your Krasnodar, Stavrapol, that Azerbaijan introduced into international law the final provision that the rights to the territorial integrity of the country are the primary point, and the right to self-determination of the nation is secondary if this country itself does not dissolve
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 31 October 2020 23: 51 New
              -1
              Quote: Ganja
              Azerbaijan does not need the services of mercenaries,

              Here is proof of the participation of Erdogan's pro-Turkish mercenaries in the war in Nagorno-Karabakh on the side of Azerbaijan!
              It was not Azerbaijan that hired them, not Aliyev, but Erdogan with Turkish money, but the Turks will take everything from Aliyev and Azerbaijan later in full their gesheft with a hook.

              “Get us out of this swamp” call from a Syrian mercenary to Turkey. 459 views • Oct 21, 2020


              The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation knows about the participation of ISIS on the side of Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh and is taking measures so that terrorists do not end up at the borders of the Russian Federation.
              Therefore, when the official Turkish troops enter this armed conflict - in fact, the civil war between Azerbaijanis and the Armenians of the NKR in Azerbaijan - this conflict develops into a MORE MASSIVE format.

              Russian Aerospace Forces Destroyed About 100 Pro-Turkish Militants in Syria! • 26 oct. Feb 2020
      2. the finish
        the finish 31 October 2020 09: 52 New
        -4
        Urgently ... After yesterday's meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation ...
        Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan sent a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which he asked to immediately begin consultations on providing assistance to Armenia, based on the second paragraph of the 1997 Agreement on Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance between Russia and Armenia.
        As reported by the press service of the Armenian Foreign Ministry, Pashinyan presented in detail the situation in Artsakh, which arose as a result of the Azerbaijani-Turkish aggression, pointing out new challenges. In particular, the circumstances of the transfer of foreign armed terrorists from the Middle East and their participation in hostilities against Artsakh.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 31 October 2020 14: 30 New
          +3
          Urgently ... did not help Pashinyan ...
      3. Hypertension
        Hypertension 31 October 2020 11: 38 New
        +9
        Quote: Military Commissar77
        Adopted on October 4, 1971 .......

        9K33M3 "Osa-AKM" Adopted in 1980 ........

        40 years ...

        That's how it is. But here is what the Armenians wrote in their time:

        As the saying goes: Do not boast, go to the army ...
    2. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 31 October 2020 07: 35 New
      -11 qualifying.
      Quote: MTN
      Whoever owns the air also owns the earth!

      No buddy, you don't know what Mountains are.
      Already tired of your war, sit down and negotiate.
      1. MTN
        MTN 31 October 2020 07: 43 New
        0
        Quote: Hunter 2
        No buddy, you don't know what Mountains are.

        I know very well what mountains are. The most ideal weapons against them are Armenians, they are partisans.

        Quote: Hunter 2
        Already tired of your war, sit down and negotiate.

        Azerbaijan has been negotiating for 30 years. Result? In addition, they sign and then they themselves break. So no conversations. For the sake of appearance, let's do it. And so we must hurry. Until Pashinyan is removed, we must hurry. God knows when such an opportunity will arise.
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 31 October 2020 07: 50 New
          -10 qualifying.
          Quote: MTN

          I know very well what mountains are. The most ideal weapons against them are Armenians, they are partisans.

          Quote: Hunter 2
          Already tired of your war, sit down and negotiate.

          Azerbaijan has been negotiating for 30 years. Result? In addition, they sign and then they themselves break. So no conversations. For the sake of appearance, let's do it. And so we must hurry. Until Pashinyan is removed, we must hurry. God knows when such an opportunity will arise.

          I doubt you know what the Mountains are.
          Well, come on "hurry", you want to carry mothers 200? Or do you think that the Turkish rabble will do everything for you? It is very easy to write, but to look in the eyes - It is quite another matter to take blood on yourself. I wish you and your family will not be affected by this.
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 31 October 2020 07: 46 New
        10
        No buddy, you don't know what Mountains are.
        Already tired of your war, sit down and negotiate.

        For Azerbadzhan, the offensive is so far successful ... it is unlikely that Azerbadzhan's army will stop there.
        With complete domination in the air, they will hammer the Armenian army to the point of exhaustion.
        What can Pashinyan do now? ... only two options ...
        either start a full-scale war between Armenia and Azerbaijan, or capitulate ... both options are fraught with grave consequences for him ... it is his own fault ... he drove the situation into time trouble.
        1. MTN
          MTN 31 October 2020 07: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          or start a full-scale war on Armenia

          Do you really think that Armenia has a chance against Azerbaijan?

          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          or capitulate ... both options are fraught with dire consequences for him.

          They will do anything except that. Because the legend of the invincible Hercules will disappear.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 31 October 2020 07: 57 New
            0
            There is always a chance ... but under Pashinyan this chance is very scanty ... in short, the Trojan horse that Soros gave to Armenia did its job.
            If it is impossible to continue the armed struggle, Pashinyan will have to capitulate .... it's only a matter of time.
            1. siberalt
              siberalt 31 October 2020 09: 51 New
              -6
              Why should Armenia surrender? Aliyev and Erdogan somehow do not fight with her. If the Muslim "brothers" block the Lachin passage to Karabakh, it will be difficult for the latter. That's when the guerrilla war will begin, if the Arabs do not stop Erdogan.
          2. Guards turn
            Guards turn 31 October 2020 07: 59 New
            +3
            Opportunities have been identified to increase the export of products from the Tula region to Armenia. The export of products from the Tula region to Armenia can be increased due to the food industry, machinery and equipment, products of the textile and chemical industries.

            The Minister of Economic Development of the Tula Region Marcel Keptenar told about this during an online meeting with the Trade Representative of the Russian Federation in Armenia in the "Hour with Trade Representative" format.

            He stressed that in recent years the level of bilateral cooperation between the Tula region and Armenia is quite high.

            Exporting companies of the Tula region presented products of various segments - medical equipment, food products, metal products, office furniture, components for the mining industry, industry, metal products, composite materials.

            As a result of the conference, the parties agreed on further cooperation.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 31 October 2020 08: 47 New
              11
              Tula people are known for their textiles)))
              1. Hunter 2
                Hunter 2 31 October 2020 09: 14 New
                0
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Tula people are known for their textiles)))

                Hi Albert! Here they signed with Lexus for the UAV ... We decided to involve you as an expert! wink
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 31 October 2020 09: 20 New
                  +4
                  I was an expert on riot control and quiet visiting girls while patrolling the built-up area laughing But I will gladly answer your questions - at an amateurish level)).
              2. Guards turn
                Guards turn 31 October 2020 09: 22 New
                +3
                In addition to weapons, Tula is also known for its gingerbread. The Armenian diaspora asked for help, why not help.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 31 October 2020 09: 44 New
                  +3
                  Hope for Diaspora Money hi
                  1. Guards turn
                    Guards turn 31 October 2020 10: 22 New
                    +1
                    Tula is also known for its samovars. Now, of course, this household item is a thing of the past. And earlier samovars were still in high demand. In Tula, they were just made.
              3. sergo1914
                sergo1914 31 October 2020 09: 31 New
                +1
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Tula people are known for their textiles)))


                Something else.
                1. Ganja
                  Ganja 1 November 2020 13: 49 New
                  0
                  Why is it trifling? Let's join the Tula region to Armenia and be done
                  1. sergo1914
                    sergo1914 1 November 2020 14: 02 New
                    0
                    Quote: Ganja
                    Why is it trifling? Let's join the Tula region to Armenia and be done


                    You will first join Ararat to Armenia. Joiners.
              4. Guards turn
                Guards turn 31 October 2020 10: 48 New
                0
                Textiles are probably more known in Turkey, but the main systems of the Turkish UAV Bayraktar TB2 are all imported, a wonderful miracle of the Turkish aircraft industry "Bayraktar" as a symbol of the neo-Ottoman Turkish scientific and industrial revolution.
          3. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 31 October 2020 09: 08 New
            +1
            a chance is not a chance, but the army of Armenia is much better armed than the Karabakh army .. it will be at least several times more difficult for the Azerbaijanis if they fit in with the Torahs, Buks, Iskander, etc.
            The question is, what will most likely not fit ..
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 31 October 2020 09: 48 New
              +4
              Quote: 2 level advisor
              a chance is not a chance, but the army of Armenia is much better armed than the Karabakh army .. it will be at least several times more difficult for the Azerbaijanis if they fit in with the Torahs, Buks, Iskander, etc.
              The question is, what will most likely not fit ..

              And with daggers - everything that you listed is itself a fairly easy target for a flock of Harop or Zerbe. What to do with this, today Daphnia users of devices do not know - Americans with Jews.
              1. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 31 October 2020 11: 46 New
                +1
                I didn’t write that the Armenians would win right away, for me and with the above it’s not a fact that they will stand, but they will create an order of magnitude more problems for the enemy ..
                About the "flock" Why such confidence? have these flocks already been used successfully against a more modern air defense system with an air force than the ancient Wasps and the detached ancient S-300 somewhere? And then it follows from your words that you don't have air defense and air force, but have a bunch of Harop with Zerbe .. and these same Americans with Jews from air defense and air force are in no hurry to give up in favor of drones ...
                In Syria, the Turks also used such tactics and successfully, until modern air defense / electronic warfare arrived ..
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 31 October 2020 11: 50 New
                  +2
                  Who used it? Barefoot with drones with Ali Express when attacking Khmeimim? And the work of electronic warfare is secondary there. They shoot at homemade products from everything that is. Nobody will give up the air defense and the air force - you cannot shoot down KR or Elbrus with Harop, you cannot throw off a ton bomb laughing
                  Now they think about interceptor drones
                  1. 2 Level Advisor
                    2 Level Advisor 31 October 2020 14: 01 New
                    +3
                    I asked you "these flocks have already been used successfully against more modern air defense with air force than the ancient Wasps and the detached ancient S-300 somewhere?"
                    Yes, drones are effective against the armies of 90 percent of countries, it's stupid to argue .. and the remaining 10 will have considerable difficulties with them .. BUT against the enemy with modern air defense and air forces, their effectiveness has not yet been tested .. And I doubt that they will be the same freely, as in the sky of Karabakh now .. that's why I asked- "Why such confidence?"
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 31 October 2020 14: 44 New
                      +2
                      It will certainly be more difficult against an enemy with advanced aircraft, air defense and radar. Against the enemy with their drones - it's generally interesting: it will resemble the battles of the beginning of WWI - when the scout pilots fired their pistols at each other)). Only UAVs will smack each other with missiles that are not adapted for such missions, then go to ram - until special weapons are developed for them laughing
                      1. 2 Level Advisor
                        2 Level Advisor 31 October 2020 15: 58 New
                        +1
                        Yeah .. but it would seem that 30 years ago is fantastic, but it looks like soon there will be no soldiers on the battlefield - only robots, and from people - special forces for the protection and destruction of control points of robots laughing
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 31 October 2020 16: 51 New
                        +2
                        The main thing to remember here:
                        "Skynet is Genesis, Genesis is Skynet" (c) drinks
        2. lucul
          lucul 31 October 2020 09: 53 New
          -4
          Do you really think that Armenia has a chance against Azerbaijan?

          So much for the price of independence)))
          That is, the inability to protect yourself with your army from occupation or absorption.
          But they did not think about it when they were eager for independence (enough to feed Moscow, electricity from the socket, etc. ...).
        3. ashot1973
          ashot1973 31 October 2020 21: 01 New
          -1
          Do you really think that Armenia has a chance against Azerbaijan?
          -
          against Azerbaijan, undoubtedly! And against against the Azerbaijani-Turkish-terrorist coalition, it is unlikely.
      3. primaala
        primaala 31 October 2020 10: 18 New
        -2
        For Azerbadzhan, the offensive is still going well ...
        =============
        the Armenians dulled their vigilance (hoping for Russia).
        One thing is not clear - why NK was NOT recognized as an independent republic?
        WHOM is it profitable to close this topic ??? and WHO lobbies the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan?
        I can assume ...
        And at the same time ... the same question about Donbass. Strange ... however.
      4. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 31 October 2020 10: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        What can Pashinyan do now? ... only two options ...

        Another option: to shake the rich Buratins from the diasporas and buy a UAV in Iran and continue the war.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 1 November 2020 11: 34 New
          +1
          The best option is to give power to a pro-Russian party and shoot themselves: for Soros, for multi-vector, for love of NATO, for the prohibition of the Russian language, for the Russophobia of the population, for dependence, for impudentness ...
    3. Runway
      Runway 31 October 2020 08: 07 New
      +1
      Controversial with regard to NK and Armenians. No readiness (4 years without itching). And the Azerbaijanis will not trample into the mountains (here is the readiness of units and common sense).
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 31 October 2020 08: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Quote: MTN
      Whoever owns the air also owns the earth!

      No buddy, you don't know what Mountains are.
      Already tired of your war, sit down and negotiate.

      Good morning, Aleksey! hi At the moment, in principle, very heavy battles are going on there. The Azerbaijanis burn forests on the mountains in order to smoke the Armenian infantry out of them. Terrain - well, it's in fig.
      1. the finish
        the finish 31 October 2020 09: 46 New
        +4
        With phosphorus, the "fraternal" Outskirts helped, with weapons express trains through one neutral neighboring country. There is already a video where forests are set on fire with white phosphorus at night.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 31 October 2020 10: 00 New
          +1
          Did you see it - sent through Georgia? I thought they had stocked it up in advance, based on the Turkish experience of working with the PKK
          1. the finish
            the finish 31 October 2020 10: 08 New
            +3
            Through Georgia, all these weeks, the flights of air forces of Azerbaijan in different (main) directions have not stopped, their neutrality is strictly valid only in the direction of one country.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 31 October 2020 10: 11 New
              +1
              As I understand it, Armenia has good relations only with Iran?
      2. Runway
        Runway 31 October 2020 09: 53 New
        +6
        Normal terrain. In a week the weather will flood, in the foothills at night it will go to zero, higher in the minus with the consequences. Saiga antelope will be more fun for both parties. BMTO will come to the fore.
  2. Achilles
    Achilles 31 October 2020 07: 59 New
    +7
    Quote: MTN
    Whoever owns the air also owns the earth!

    Everything is so, but the Armenians after 2016 (then drones were already used) had to build several thousand false targets from plywood and sticks and camouflage them with bushes, branches, and then Azerbaijan would spend a bunch of kamikaze drones and missiles in an empty one and the situation now would be completely different
  3. Runway
    Runway 31 October 2020 08: 08 New
    -1
    You are still lucky with your opponent.
  4. Maz
    Maz 31 October 2020 10: 56 New
    -11 qualifying.
    Quote: MTN
    Whoever owns the air also owns the earth!

    The topic of drones is so important for Turkey that the 40-year-old inventor of the UAV Bayraktar TB-2, engineer Selcuk Bayraktar, who studied at the University of Pennsylvania and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (USA), received Erdogan's youngest daughter as a wife as a prize. And, of course, he became a national hero. And the president himself squared his shoulders wide: neither in Libya, nor in Syria, no one could cope with his drones, which successfully helped ground troops and sometimes decided the fate of military operations. They said that Turkey had more than 100 such drones, but the fact that they were primarily used against its own citizens - Turkish Kurds, did not bother Ankara.
    However, the burden of fame is not easy to bear. First, the troops of the Libyan Marshal Khalifa Haftar began to shoot down Turkish UAVs with the help of Russian Strela-10 MANPADS and, at the very least, landed 10 units. Then there was Idlib, where Turkish UAVs especially frolicked. "Armor" and "Buki" for a couple of days removed from the sky a dozen more Bayraktar TB-2. It must be said that even then there were suspicions that Russian electronic warfare systems were being used against the glorious Turkish weapons, but the suspicions were ignored and preparations began for Azerbaijan's invasion of Karabakh. Ankara sent to Azerbaijan and 20 of its Bayraktar TB-2. Everything went according to plan at first. Turkish UAVs significantly influenced the course of hostilities, but on October 26, something began to change. All Bayraktar TB-2 loitering in the air fell from the sky and crashed to the ground at once. The Russian electronic warfare complex "Krasukha-4" helped them in this.
    The effect was such that the Turks withdrew all 6 of their F-16 fighter-bombers from the border with Armenia. You never know what.

    It should be remembered here that Russian electronic warfare systems also emerged in Syria. And if they work at the Qamishli base, which is near the Turkish border, and at the Khmeimim base, which is not far from Idlib, then things for the descendants of the Janissaries will go in the wrong direction. Apparently, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation hinted at this, when the Russian Aerospace Forces on the same day as in Karabakh left no stone unturned from the training camp of pro-Turkish militants in Idlib. About 150 of them went to Allah. Such is the coincidence. Perhaps, the Russian Defense Ministry was still offended by Erdogan's promises to release the Crimean Tatars.
    What do you own there? https://inforuss.info/kak-by-v-turtsii-ne-sluchilos/?fbclid=IwAR0vNyFd513R8ufLVQJ0Gs6D0V8vno3jGM83VfGDd-KiBHiGO-Yk_0_K_mY - чудная статья, спускающая на землю младотурков по поводу всемогущества турецких бпла.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 31 October 2020 11: 17 New
      +9
      Quote: Maz
      but on October 26, something began to change. At once, all Bayraktar TB-2 loitering in the air fell from the sky and crashed to the ground.

      laughing laughing laughing
      You rarely find such obstinacy even here laughing
      As they flew so they fly, for the entire time of battles in Karabakh 1 confirmed Bayraktar TB2 has fallen. Only in the last 4 hours XNUMX videos from drones were posted, a drone fall is such a drone fall laughing
      https://youtu.be/p9r1Cw_LZ9g
      https://youtu.be/GrSszaVfwTI
      https://youtu.be/p0wAF3VJeso
      https://youtu.be/Lj36zMjBxxw

      For the ignorant explanation destination Krasukha-4:

      Covering command posts, groupings of troops, air defense systems, important industrial and administrative-political facilities. The complex analyzes the type of signal and acts on enemy radar interference radiation. Carry out suppression of spy satellites, ground radars and AWACS aircraft systems.


      Against UAV Krasukha-4 DOES NOT WORK.
      1. Maz
        Maz 31 October 2020 17: 56 New
        -6
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        “Krasukha-4 DOES NOT WORK against UAVs.

        Learn the kitty, and do not just read the pages from Wikipedia, the Americans control its servers ...
        Purpose:

        The complexes are designed to cover troops and vast territories from radar detection, as well as countering AWACS aircraft and UAV adversary.
        Modifications:

        1L269 "Krasukha-2"
        Krasukha-C4
        Krasukha-2O, etc.

        Did Kitty understand?
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 31 October 2020 18: 40 New
          +4
          laughing laughing laughing Yandex Zen or avia.pro source?laughing laughing laughing

          We go to the manufacturer's website:
          kret.devup.cc/ru/product/krasuha_c4/about

          Electronic warfare complex Krasukha-C4
          The ground-based electronic suppression module is designed for electronic jamming of air-based radars in order to protect ground and air small-sized objects from their observation using the radar

          The product provides the following tasks: Detection, processing, analysis and recognition of jammed radar signals in the operating frequency range. Electronic suppression along the main and side lobes of the antenna radiation patterns of airborne radars.

          Rostec, together with KRET, also control the Americans, or can you think of other excuses? laughing laughing laughing
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 31 October 2020 23: 17 New
          +2
          Sorry - but you wrote garbage Krasukha 4 against the work of the UAV does not work. And it is not necessary to identify our complexes with new properties that do not exist.
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    4. CastroRuiz
      CastroRuiz 31 October 2020 16: 17 New
      -1
      Da uzh malovato poluchil.
      Krome docheri Erdogana on dolzhen bil poluchit I 1/2 korolevstva. :)))
  5. Maz
    Maz 31 October 2020 18: 26 New
    -6
    • Station 1RL257 "Krasukha-4" is a wide-range station of powerful noise interference, as well as a multifunctional ground jamming module. The main purpose is to cover stationary objects from multifunctional radars of enemy strike aircraft, from on-board radar reconnaissance radars of E-8C aircraft, reconnaissance-strike and reconnaissance UAVs "Predator" and "Global Hawk", as well as radars of artificial Earth satellites "Lacrosse"

    T.O. Turkish Bayraktar for krasukha at times.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 31 October 2020 20: 08 New
      +1
      We can't read yet laughing

      Quote: Maz
      from airborne radar surveillance radar E-8C aircraft, reconnaissance-strike and reconnaissance UAVs "Predator" and "Global Hawk"


      The author writes that Rubella provides protection against radar "Predator" and "Global Hawk". There is a transfer from whose on-board radar Krasukha is protecting. Sori if Russian is not native. laughing
    2. Alexey G
      Alexey G 31 October 2020 21: 00 New
      +3
      Yes dear Maz, that's right, but this bastard Bayrakter (the standard-bearer) doesn't have a locator according to ours !!! Therefore, there is not much to influence! In addition, this bastard must somehow be detected in the mountains, taking into account that it is composite and not particularly detectable ..... Like Israel hydra ...
      They use an optical tracking station, possibly a thermal imaging station ...
  • MTN
    MTN 31 October 2020 07: 29 New
    -3
    According to the Armenian Ombudsman, Arman Tatoyan, units of the Azerbaijani army use such ammunition to fire at forests near settlements where the local population is hiding during the day and night during attacks.

    There may not be good people among the local population. Moreover, yesterday the Armenians released a couple of dozen prisoners from prison to fight Azerbaijan. So everything is correct.

    Meanwhile, on Friday in Geneva, a meeting was held between the foreign ministers of Azerbaijan and Armenia, which lasted six hours. The parties agreed

    While Pashinyan is in power, Azerbaijan needs to hurry!
    1. Tugarin
      Tugarin 31 October 2020 07: 48 New
      20
      Quote: MTN
      While Pashinyan is in power, Azerbaijan needs to hurry

      Yes, we already understood.
    2. sergo1914
      sergo1914 31 October 2020 09: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: MTN
      Moreover, yesterday the Armenians released a couple of dozen prisoners from prison to fight against Azerbaijan.


      What will they do? Will the arrow be scored?
  • raki-uzo
    raki-uzo 31 October 2020 07: 37 New
    0
    "Meanwhile, a six-hour meeting between the foreign ministers of Azerbaijan and Armenia took place in Geneva on Friday. The parties agreed to take a number of steps to comply with the ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh, including not delivering deliberate strikes against the civilian population and non-military targets."

    Most likely, they decided on whom to invite to the ceasefire congress - Russia and Turkey already have invitations. Iran probably. But France and the United States are in question, especially France.
    1. MTN
      MTN 31 October 2020 07: 45 New
      -4
      Quote: raki-uzo
      But France and the United States are in question, especially France.

      France will definitely be removed from the OSCE. I agree with you. The US can't help but stick its nose in it.

      Quote: raki-uzo
      "Meanwhile, on Friday, a meeting of the foreign ministers of Azerbaijan and Armenia took place in Geneva, which lasted six hours.

      That's it, the train has left. There is no place for negotiations.
  • faiver
    faiver 31 October 2020 07: 41 New
    +5
    Geneva hosted a meeting of the Foreign Ministers of Azerbaijan and Armenia
    - the countries are at war, and on these tours abroad, they will agree on a truce, here and there, and the hostilities as they were conducted and are being conducted
  • IS-1
    IS-1 31 October 2020 08: 02 New
    -20 qualifying.
    If we count the number of Azerbaijani videos, then Armenia should not have an army in fact .. The whole Internet is crammed with them))))
    I can smell Azerbaijan sooner or later .. You can kick .. hi
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 31 October 2020 08: 10 New
      14
      I can smell Azerbaijan sooner or later .. You can kick ..

      We will kick for an undeveloped comment ...


      Who will Azerbadzhan get from?
      When? ... voice at least the version.
      And the losses for the Armenians are decent ... and superficially take it lightly.
  • Dmitriy444
    Dmitriy444 31 October 2020 08: 04 New
    +2
    Ours need to draw conclusions about this war, so we have strained with shock drones.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 31 October 2020 10: 50 New
      -3
      Quote: Dmitriy444
      Ours need to draw conclusions about this war, so we have strained with shock drones.
      Directly removed from the tongue!

      Military experts directly declare that Russia's emphasis in armament on defensive weapons is clearly not enough to win the war in the new conditions. Russia will obviously not be able to sit out only on its own territory, as in the Middle Ages in a fortress - it needs effective massive offensive weapons.
      That at the same time, the DEFENSIVE military strategy of Russia should be changed to an OFFENSIVE one, because there is NO 100% successful defense, and "holes" in the same air defense in war and in battle on the ground can turn out to be "holes" with the corresponding catastrophic consequences. equipment, manpower, etc.

      Moreover, military specialists have been talking about this for a long time - already 3-4 years only from my memory. That Russia will only have to "DEFEND" in preparation for war! This will not stop the aggressive West in the war against Russia! On the contrary:
      1. The West considers the DEFENSIVE military strategy of the Russian Federation as a manifestation of Russia's weakness in relation to anti-Russian offensive countries!
      2. That when Russia realizes this, it may turn out that it will be too late.
      3. That the modern approach of the Defense Ministry, the General Staff and the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Federation (we are talking about 3 years ago) is either outdated unprofessionalism, or a betrayal of the country "from above".
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 October 2020 08: 07 New
    0
     Recently Armenia has completely stopped building something with the possibility of recognizing Nagorno-Karabakh ... but how they threatened, how they threatened. Probably they will recognize when the Azerbaijanis take everything away. laughing
  • Professor
    Professor 31 October 2020 08: 08 New
    +8
    Azerbaijan uses phosphorus-containing weapons that have elements of chemical weapons.

    Brad.
    1. This is not a chemical weapon.
    2. Phosphorus ammunition is not prohibited from being used in some circumstances. For example, as an incendiary weapon.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 31 October 2020 10: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Professor
      Phosphorus ammunition is not prohibited under certain circumstances. For example, as an incendiary weapon.

      you "professor" do not write nonsense yourself, phosphorus ammunition, more, as incendiary, cannot be used ... (against civilians) ...
      In early September 2018, the Russian Ministry of Defense issued a statement that US Air Force planes bombed the village of Hajin in the Syrian province of Deir ez-Zor on September 8. It was reported that the raid involved two F-15 fighter-bombers, which used ammunition with white phosphorus. It should be noted that White phosphorus ammunition, also known as Willie Pete (acronym for white phosphorus), is banned by the 1977 Additional Protocol to the 1949 Geneva Convention - it is forbidden to use it where civilians could be endangered. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the use of such ammunition led to severe fires.

      It is worth noting that The United States and Israel did not sign the Additional Protocols to the 1977 Geneva Convention for the Protection of War Victims in 1949. So in the XNUMXst century, the strongest army in the world is in no hurry to part with such weapons.

      Phosphorus ammunition is a type of incendiary ammunition filled with white phosphorus or incendiary substances based on it, mixed with other substances belonging to the group of self-igniting incendiary substances that burn using oxygen in the air. There are different types of phosphorus ammunition, among which the most common are artillery shells, mortar mines, aerial bombs, as well as rockets and rockets and even hand grenades. Also, quite often, white phosphorus was used to create improvised mine explosive devices.

      https://topwar.ru/148042-pochemu-pentagon-ne-otkazyvaetsja-ot-fosfornyh-boepripasov.html

      Israeli Jews have always been famous for their humanitarianism, so the use of phosphorus munitions for the IDF against civilians is a normal thing, therefore Professor and writes that for him personally and his relatives, the indicated ammunition is not a prohibited weapon ...
      1. Professor
        Professor 31 October 2020 10: 40 New
        +5
        Quote: Lara Croft
        you "professor" do not write nonsense yourself, phosphorus ammunition, more, as incendiary, cannot be used ... (pcivilian population) ....

        Против PEACEFUL population, nothing can be used, CEP. Even AK. Learn materiel.

        Quote: Lara Croft
        It is worth noting that the United States and Israel did not sign the Additional Protocols to the 1977 Geneva Convention for the Protection of War Victims in 1949.

        Not signed means and do not violate. Is not it?

        Quote: Lara Croft
        Israeli Jews have always been famous for their philanthropy, so the use of phosphorus ammunition against civilians for the IDF is a normal thing, so the professor writes that for him personally and his relatives, these ammunition is not a prohibited weapon ...

        "against the civilian population" these are your Wishlist. No more. And it is not forbidden to us. We did not undertake such obligations. fellow
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 31 October 2020 10: 58 New
          -3
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Lara Croft
          you "professor" do not write nonsense yourself, phosphorus ammunition, more, as incendiary, cannot be used ... (pcivilian population) ....

          Против PEACEFUL population, nothing can be used, CEP. Even AK. [

          Professor again here on VO troll? Forgot what you wrote earlier, so I will remind you:
          Phosphorus ammunition is not prohibited under certain circumstances. For example, as an incendiary weapon.

          Where can you write about the civilian population, within the meaning of your writings, these ammunition can be used, for example, as an incendiary weapon ...
          Teach materiel.

          This phrase is always written by those who wrote nonsense before this, and there is nothing to parry in their defense ...
          Not signed means and do not violate. Is not it?

          Is that so ... only in the article about the Azerbaijani Armed Forces it is written, and not about the Israeli Jews .... who like to teach everyone here on the website using any weapon against the civilian population, incl. the working people of Palestine and SAR ...
          And it is not forbidden to us. We did not undertake such obligations. fellow

          You didn't take a lot of things, incl. and about the prohibition of chemical weapons and the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons ...
          But we left the article, and the result of your opinion is that the Azerbaijani Armed Forces can use phosphorus ammunition against the peaceful population of the NKR, by the way, they use it on their territory, so Azerbaijan violates not only the norms of international law, but also national legislation ...
          1. Professor
            Professor 31 October 2020 11: 43 New
            +3
            Quote: Lara Croft
            Professor again here on VO troll? Forgot what you wrote earlier, so I will remind you:
            Phosphorus ammunition is not prohibited under certain circumstances. For example, as an incendiary weapon.

            Where can you write about the civilian population, within the meaning of your writings, these ammunition can be used, for example, as an incendiary weapon ...

            According to your logic, incendiary ammunition is used exclusively against the peaceful population? Not at all. Israel uses phosphorus ammunition exclusively for a smoke screen or for targeting artillery.

            Quote: Lara Croft
            This phrase is always written by those who wrote nonsense before this, and there is nothing to parry in their defense ...

            You wrote to Achineah. According to your logic, what can be used against civilians? Show off your knowledge of materiel.

            Quote: Lara Croft
            Is that so ... only in the article about the Azerbaijani Armed Forces it is written, and not about the Israeli Jews .... who like to teach everyone here on the website using any weapon against the civilian population, incl. the working people of Palestine and SAR ...

            "Palestine"? I don't know that.

            Azerbaijan also does not violate the Geneva Convention by using incendiary ammunition with phosphorus. And none of these are chemical weapons.

            Quote: Lara Croft
            You didn't take a lot of things, incl. and about the prohibition of chemical weapons and the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons ...

            ... and no complaints against us. Group sex is voluntary.

            Quote: Lara Croft
            But we left the article, and the result of your opinion is that the Azerbaijani Armed Forces can use phosphorus ammunition against the peaceful population of the NKR, by the way, they use it on their territory, so Azerbaijan violates not only the norms of international law, but also national legislation ...

            1. No lethal weapon can be used against civilians. This is where we stand.
            2. On their territory, they may use any weapon to respect the territorial integrity of the country. The constitution is binding. For the rest, see paragraph 1.
            So again by. They do not break anything from the word "absolutely".
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 31 October 2020 12: 43 New
              -3
              Quote: Professor
              According to your logic, incendiary ammunition is used exclusively against the peaceful population? Not at all.

              Not at all, but this is precisely what the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are accused of ...
              Israel uses phosphorus ammunition exclusively for a smoke screen or for targeting artillery.

              Yes, no one cares why Israeli Jews use them, they, like the Masters, did not sign the Additional Protocols to the 1949 Geneva Convention for the Protection of War Victims. Therefore, only the Lord can ask you ... (apparently the time has not come yet) ...
              According to your logic, what can be used against civilians?

              Troll again? It seems to be written in Russian in my comment:
              White phosphorus ammunition, also known as Willie Pete (acronym for white phosphorus), is prohibited by the 1977 Additional Protocol to the 1949 Geneva Convention - it is forbidden to use them in cases where the civilian population may be endangered.

              Show off your knowledge of materiel.

              I expect the same from you, I told you the sources of law, countries that do not care about the Rules of War, too ...
              "Palestine"? I don't know that.

              A modern, partially recognized state in the Middle East that is in the process of being created.
              Azerbaijan also does not violate the Geneva Convention by using incendiary ammunition with phosphorus.

              Violates if they are used against civilians in the course of hostilities ...
              And none of these are chemical weapons.

              Did I write about this?
              ... and no complaints against us. Group sex is voluntary.

              Why, then, are you accusing Eun of this?
              1. No lethal weapon can be used against civilians.

              I agree.
              On this and stand.

              Israel's neighbors have a different opinion ...
              2. On their territory, they may use any weapon to respect the territorial integrity of the country. The constitution is binding. For the rest, see paragraph 1.
              So again by. They do not break anything from the word "absolutely".

              Again, by the "professor" the very fact of using phosphorus munitions against civilians (no matter in what part of the world) is illegal, otherwise it was not necessary to sign the Convention, like Israeli Jews, for example ...
              1. Professor
                Professor 31 October 2020 13: 51 New
                +3
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Not at all, but this is precisely what the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are accused of ...

                You never know who blames whom and what? Has the presumption of innocence been canceled?

                Quote: Lara Croft
                Yes, no one cares why Israeli Jews use them, they, like the Masters, did not sign the Additional Protocols to the 1949 Geneva Convention for the Protection of War Victims. Therefore, only the Lord can ask you ... (apparently the time has not come yet) ...

                Duc, he is also an Israeli Jew, originally from near Jerusalem.

                Quote: Lara Croft
                I expect the same from you, I told you the sources of law, countries that do not care about the Rules of War, too ...

                You have not answered my question what lethal weapons can be used against civilians.

                Quote: Lara Croft
                A modern, partially recognized state in the Middle East that is in the process of being created.

                What is the name of the capital? What banknotes does this "state" have?

                Quote: Lara Croft
                And none of these are chemical weapons.

                Did I write about this?

                We are discussing the article. It's written there.
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Why, then, are you accusing Eun of this?

                Precisely because the group sex is voluntary and he signed up for this group sex after receiving a bunch of lollipops. Now you can't get up and leave.

                Quote: Lara Croft
                Israel's neighbors have a different opinion ...

                Their opinion is monopenesual to us.

                Quote: Lara Croft
                Again, by the "professor" the very fact of using phosphorus munitions against civilians (no matter in what part of the world) is illegal, otherwise it was not necessary to sign the Convention, like Israeli Jews, for example ...

                The fact itself is not. There are unproven accusations from the neighboring country and nothing more.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 October 2020 08: 10 New
    -19 qualifying.
    Ours would just bark there once, like do not calm down, a "magically subduing" rocket will arrive and reconcile everyone, in the next world! 

    Something like this: [media = http: // https: //youtu.be/UM3xUmdnwdM] laughing
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 31 October 2020 08: 17 New
      +8
      Ours would just bark there once, like do not calm down, a "magically subduing" rocket will arrive and reconcile everyone, in the next world!

      Ours would have to deal with Donbass ... but no, again, there are misunderstandings with the drain of the LPNR began.
      To calm down Svanidze in the bullpen ... this bastard is dissatisfied with the decision of our court to recognize the mass murder of Russian (Soviet) people in the Novgorod region as genocide.
      http://katyusha.org/view?id=15431&utm_source=politobzor.net
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 31 October 2020 08: 37 New
    -1
    Pashinyan is a traitor! He deliberately surrenders Karabakh, Armenia also has modern TOR, BUK and S-300 air defense systems and Su-30 fighters that could remove the UAVs of Azerbaijan from the sky, but Pashinyan and the command of the Armenian army appointed by Pashinyan do nothing of this, deliberately sending them to slaughter of the defenders of Karabakh.

    After the war and the loss of Karabakh, Pashinyan will blame the Russian weapons systems for everything and will push Armenia into NATO and the EU.
    1. Avior
      Avior 31 October 2020 09: 58 New
      +3
      Pashinyan is afraid to start a full-fledged war against Azerbaijan.
      After that, you can say goodbye to the Armenian economy.
      The CSTO - read Russia - obviously will not fight on the side of Armenia in this case.
      And the result of this war is questionable.
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 31 October 2020 14: 28 New
        +2
        Really?! Will the economy suffer ?! Well, then it was necessary to immediately give up Karabakh and everything would be fine with the economy.

        They are fighting not for the economy, but for their native land !!! And the war is already going on and a full-fledged one is going on.
        1. Avior
          Avior 31 October 2020 14: 33 New
          +4
          Yes, Armenia would have done the right thing if it had given up Karabakh on time on terms of deep autonomy with guarantees, as long as it had military superiority.
          It's already too late.
          And starting a full-scale war for Armenia now is to endanger the existence of Armenia itself.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 October 2020 11: 32 New
      +1
      "Armenia also has modern SAM systems TOP, BUK and S-300 and Su-30 fighters" - Does Armenia have normally trained crews and pilots for all of the above?
  • Artura
    Artura 31 October 2020 08: 37 New
    +1
    Destruction of a sabotage group of Azerbaijanis. https://youtu.be/b7EinZyrb4U
  • igor1981
    igor1981 31 October 2020 08: 42 New
    +5
    , Armenians are simply shot as targets in the shooting range. Azerbaijan, with the support of Turkey, has properly prepared for modern warfare. At that time, the Armenians protested on the Maidans, including with anti-Russian slogans, as they say - in practice, maybe they will draw conclusions and first of all it is necessary to call Pashinyan to account for this.
  • Ural resident
    Ural resident 31 October 2020 09: 02 New
    -4
    It is strange to observe the behavior of the Armenian military. Okay, we missed the first strikes, but they had to draw some conclusions. No, they still stand in the open air in a bunch. And when the shelling begins, instead of scattering, on the contrary, they gather in a bunch, Pashinyan simply drove all the young people to the front for artillery, those who were older dumped long ago, only small groups of experienced warriors are fighting, but there are too few of them against the Turkish-Syrian troops. But even so, the blitzkrieg failed; on October 29, victory was to be declared. Yesterday night near Shusha the Turkish DRG was defeated. By the way, most of the videos from drones from the beginning of hostilities are being posted a month ago.
    1. Bakinec
      Bakinec 31 October 2020 09: 23 New
      +1
      Which Turkish Syrian troops, which Turkish special forces? You still stick the Martians.
      1. Ural resident
        Ural resident 31 October 2020 09: 33 New
        -2
        And why do you think Erdogash is being punished in Syria? probably not for just looking, but for interfering in the conflict and breaking the truce. It's just that someone feels sorry for the people, but give the war to someone. So far they are punishing not even with rods, but with a thin vichka, but they beat naked places with a backhand and with a pull: "It's not good, Fedya ..."
    2. Alena-Baku
      Alena-Baku 31 October 2020 09: 38 New
      +3
      Beladen in Karabakh, a report from Shusha.

      https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158198063588929&id=599718928
      1. ashot1973
        ashot1973 31 October 2020 21: 46 New
        0
        Another box, sound production ... laughing
        Do you want to enjoy those times? You are welcome...
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWAo_ygiubQ
  • Mwg
    Mwg 31 October 2020 09: 29 New
    +3
    If anyone has paid attention, in most cases, a strike on ground targets is made not from the drone itself, but from the side. The drone itself acts as a means of observation and target designation. It is possible that drones are used in conjunction with loitering ammunition. And this, in my opinion, is a new concept of tactical warfare, since it dictates the use of new methods of camouflage, counteraction, the use of equipment and manpower. By the way, in the Donbas (in the morning the news flashed) the Ukrainian Armed Forces began to use drones. So it is not enough to fight against drones with electronic warfare means, it is time to transfer the fight against them to the sky using the same interceptor drones.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 31 October 2020 11: 53 New
      +6
      "If anyone paid attention, in most cases, a strike on ground targets
      produced not from the drone itself, but from the side "////
      ----
      One drone performs reconnaissance and takes pictures from a convenient "position"
      in the air. Perhaps it also highlights the target. And the second drone strikes with a rocket
      from the maximum effective distance.
      Interaction of experienced operators.
    2. Lena Petrova
      Lena Petrova 31 October 2020 17: 03 New
      -1
      The most optimal would be to work on the control center.
  • Bakinec
    Bakinec 31 October 2020 09: 32 New
    +6
    The tale about f16 did not work, the tale about the Turkish special forces did not work, the tale about the shelling of Russian border guards in the territory of Armenia did not work. Now the Armenian fairy tale about chemical weapons has begun
  • Alena-Baku
    Alena-Baku 31 October 2020 09: 35 New
    +3
    Ombudsman of the unrecognized republic Artak Beglaryan.
    No comments.

    1. ashot1973
      ashot1973 31 October 2020 22: 01 New
      0
      You have to look more in cartoons ...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOI0O7sATAU&list=PL1lcYJFZ_FElJ2ogvnqVlPmt7Vc_rG4i1
      No comments!
  • iouris
    iouris 31 October 2020 09: 39 New
    -10 qualifying.
    But the victory did not show. Well, why Ilham, did your "older Turkish brothers" help you? By the way, they have an earthquake. It's time to negotiate, otherwise a revolution will take place in the country.
    1. Bakinec
      Bakinec 31 October 2020 10: 00 New
      +5
      Don't worry about Azerbaijan.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 October 2020 11: 34 New
      +2
      "But it didn't show victory." It even showed that 40% of the NKR territory is already occupied by Azerbaijani troops
  • svoit
    svoit 31 October 2020 09: 45 New
    0
    Quote: Military Commissar77
    9K33M3 "Osa-AKM" Adopted in 1980 ........

    40 years ...

    There are no replacements yet, so many tori cannot be made, so it is urgent to modernize and equip the KAZ.
    Quote: MVG
    It is possible that drones are used in conjunction with loitering ammunition.

    These BPs themselves do not have time to convey a beautiful picture, and the result of their work is not exactly clear, therefore, it is better to conduct control from a conventional UAV (strike or reconnaissance).
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 October 2020 11: 36 New
      0
      Well, the Russian Armed Forces ordered Torv and missiles for them until 2027 for 100 billion rubles.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 31 October 2020 09: 51 New
    +1
    In the mountains, I see, according to the maps, the pace of the offensive has fallen sharply. Where is the work of the UAV in the mountains and not on the plain. Judging by the 3D maps, it is still convenient for Armenians to defend themselves.
    1. Sinugamb
      Sinugamb 31 October 2020 10: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      In the mountains, I see, according to the maps, the pace of the offensive has fallen sharply. Where is the work of the UAV in the mountains and not on the plain. Judging by the 3D maps, it is still convenient for Armenians to defend themselves.

      It is in the mountains that the Armenians are less vulnerable, so the main war is still ahead!
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 31 October 2020 10: 25 New
        +1
        Judging by the United States in Afghanistan, and those all sorts of different means of destruction are in abundance, the Armenians decided to use the Afghan experience. On the plain they are targets. Well, then the question of supply arises.
        1. Sinugamb
          Sinugamb 31 October 2020 11: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Judging by the United States in Afghanistan, and those all sorts of different means of destruction are in abundance, the Armenians decided to use the Afghan experience. On the plain they are targets. Well, then the question of supply arises.

          Well, Armenia is not Afghan .. Pashinyan would have been removed and I think it would have gone to supply and political support from the world .. hi
          The coming to power of this little Pashinyan-sakashvilli, I think, is a link in one chain and goal!
          Everything is going too smoothly to draw Russia into the conflict ... The Karabakh can be given, of course, but I am sure that certain forces (I am silent who) will not stop, they will trample on ...
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 31 October 2020 11: 49 New
            +1
            They will not succeed. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has already answered, only in case of a threat to the territory of Armenia, will Shoigu deal with this issue.
            1. Sinugamb
              Sinugamb 31 October 2020 12: 52 New
              +4
              Quote: tralflot1832
              They will not succeed. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has already answered, only in case of a threat to the territory of Armenia, will Shoigu deal with this issue.

              It is with the threat to the official borders of Armenia !!!! The airspace is already covered and guarded under the treaty (the fighters fly over and everything is on high alert)
              .. Otherwise I don't know hi
              It is useless to negotiate with Pashinyan, he will betray .. Russia is waiting for the new leader of Armenia!
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 31 October 2020 17: 37 New
                0
                Here I came up with a very good idea: The withdrawal of our troops from the base in Gyumri must still be earned! hi
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 31 October 2020 12: 08 New
            0
            We do not need anything in Azerbaijan, as they do from us. Sane Azerbaijanis on the VO website know perfectly the boundaries of what is permissible, but the inhabitants of the "free world" channeling under Azerbaijanis do not. The 5 + 2 formula will eliminate Azerbaijanis. There are only seven regions in Nagorno-Karabakh. at the moment, only 20% of the territory is behind them, but Pashinyan is not in any, I would not be surprised if he knocks at the US Embassy the other day, the time is ticking.
            1. Sinugamb
              Sinugamb 31 October 2020 12: 47 New
              +2
              Quote: tralflot1832
              We do not need anything in Azerbaijan, as they do from us. The sane Azerbaijanis on the VO website perfectly know the boundaries of what is permitted,

              Well, all the Armenians were squeezed out of the site and you will still teach us how we need to treat Armenia)))) \
              Quote: tralflot1832
              There are only seven regions in Nagorno-Karabakh. At the moment, only 20% of the territory is behind them, but Pashinyan is not in any, I would not be surprised if he knocks at the US Embassy the other day, the time is ticking. They are fighting without days off.

              Is Pashinen your protege, Turkey and Azerbaijan? Somehow everything was adjusted so clearly, I'm just surprised at your perspicacity bully
              The whole inter is filled with your victorious videos .. Everything is very interesting!
              I hope Putin will not lead to Pashinyan's tears, let him run and scream around the world like Sakashvilli .. wassat
              And there you will see what and how .. hi
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 31 October 2020 10: 07 New
    +2
    Meanwhile, Pashinyan recalled the "friendship" of Armenia and Russia.
    In an address published on the website of the republic's Foreign Ministry, Pashinyan sent a letter where he "thoroughly presented the situation" in Nagorno-Karabakh and "the challenges that have arisen."
    In the appeal, the Armenian side asks for "immediate consultations" to determine the "KIND and AMOUNT OF ASSISTANCE" that Moscow can provide to Yerevan on the basis of the August 29, 1997 Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance.
  • Sinugamb
    Sinugamb 31 October 2020 10: 17 New
    +1
    Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan on Saturday sent a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which he described in detail the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh and, given the allied nature of relations between the two countries, asked to determine the form of support to ensure the security of Armenia.

    Not the first time bully ... I recently ran in the United States, apparently they sent him and served him right ..
    Save Russia again? And in the recent past, he shouted down, “Russia will get out of Armenia and the West will help us.” Azerbaijan taught the Armenians a good lesson.
    And what to do with them now? Let Karabakh surrender or change the government ..? Armenia doesn't have Baghramyanov ... But Pashinyan won't get off with a letter ...
    1. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 31 October 2020 10: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: Sinugamb
      In the US recently ran, you see they sent him and rightfully .. Again, save Russia?

      Everyone has already sent him. I saw through immediately. Already Russia is not an occupier.
  • svoit
    svoit 31 October 2020 10: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: tralflot1832
    In the mountains I look, on the maps, the rate of advance has dropped dramatically

    Have you seen the operational plans? Maybe no large-scale offensives were planned there. There are Armenian villages, some of them still with the population, there they will operate with the help of UAVs, arts, DRGs, forcing the civilians to leave these places. While it is necessary to occupy the entire plain and foothills, to establish control over the highway.
    Quote: Bakinec
    The tale of f16 did not pass

    Well, why, even Aliev seems to believe in her.
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 31 October 2020 11: 00 New
    +1
    May ask Aliyev not to show how Russian air defense systems are being destroyed. A strong blow to the image of Russian air defense systems.
    1. huntsman650
      huntsman650 31 October 2020 11: 06 New
      +2
      SAM USSR))) more))). WASP.
  • Pilyulkin
    Pilyulkin 31 October 2020 11: 51 New
    +4
    I'll write right away - the war is bad. Given the superiority of Az to Ar technologies, the transition to war in the mountains will not fundamentally change the situation. The drones are equipped with IR cameras. Any heat source will be very well visible in winter, which means that the old principles of camouflage will not help against UAVs and loitering ammunition.
  • Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 31 October 2020 12: 31 New
    +4
    Azerbaijan uses phosphorus-containing weapons that have chemical weapons elements. It is used in forests near settlements

    That sounded, very timidly so far, in a whisper, the magic word "chemistry"...
  • Old26
    Old26 31 October 2020 13: 11 New
    +7
    Quote: finish
    Through Georgia, all these weeks, the flights of air forces of Azerbaijan in different (main) directions have not stopped, their neutrality is strictly valid only in the direction of one country.

    What did you want? If the Armenian diaspora in Georgia believes that the territory in which they live is not part of Georgia. How should Georgians regard such statements?
    Quote: Achilles
    Everything is so, but the Armenians after 2016 (then drones were already used) had to build several thousand false targets from plywood and sticks and camouflage them with bushes, branches, and then Azerbaijan would spend a bunch of kamikaze drones and missiles in an empty one and the situation now would be completely different

    Well, the drones are so stupid that they will not react to the hot engine of the tank, but to decoys made of plywood and sticks ...

    Quote: Maz
    Ankara sent to Azerbaijan and 20 of its Bayraktar TB-2s. At first, everything went according to plan. Turkish UAVs significantly influenced the course of hostilities, but on October 26, something began to change. All Bayraktar TB-2 loitering in the air fell from the sky and crashed to the ground at once. The Russian EW complex "Krasukha-4" helped them in this.

    How long can this fake be replicated? As in the past, "Khibiny" on the SU-24 on which they were never installed, so now "Krasukha-4" has landed drones. Respected!!! "Krasukha-4" is designed to combat AIRCRAFT RADAR... How can it affect the optical channel?

    Quote: IS-1
    I can smell Azerbaijan sooner or later .. You can kick ..

    From Armenia? Knocking out heavy equipment on the theater? Oh well. Blessed is he who believes ...
    And kick? What for? you have already shown your level, earning a rating of "minus 20" on 450 posts. I don't even want to put a minus, because when heavy equipment, artillery and MLRS are knocked out of Armenia every day, only an incorrigible optimist can believe that Azerbaijan will "get rid of" from Armenia ...

    Quote: Lara Croft
    phosphorus ammunition, no longer as incendiary, cannot be used ...

    So Azerbaijanis do not use it against settlements, and setting fire to a forest is not an action against civilians.

    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    Pashinyan is a traitor! He deliberately surrenders Karabakh, Armenia also has modern TOR, BUK and S-300 air defense systems and Su-30 fighters that could remove the UAVs of Azerbaijan from the sky, but Pashinyan and the command of the Armenian army appointed by Pashinyan do nothing of this, deliberately sending them to slaughter of the defenders of Karabakh.

    After the war and the loss of Karabakh, Pashinyan will blame the Russian weapons systems for everything and will push Armenia into NATO and the EU.

    If Armenia does this, joins the war, then let it not shout that it is offended and help the CSTO. Well, it is very creative to shoot down loitering ammunition and light drones SU-30 or missiles from S-300 or Buk. ... Shooting a cannon at sparrows will give a greater effect than shooting at a drone from an S-300 ...

    Quote: Resident of the Urals
    But even so, the blitzkrieg failed; on October 29, victory was to be declared.

    Do you have such sacred knowledge? Was it on October 29 that the victory should have been announced? By the month's anniversary? Why shouldn't November 30 be announced, or on New Year's Eve? Where does this lame blitzkrieg idea come from? In the conditions of the theater of operations, only a complete de'bil could think of a blitzkrieg ?? So no, is this "blitzkrieg idea" wandering from post to post in all topics? Teach the history of the same Great Patriotic War. How, how and by what forces and in what terrain were the operations carried out in this blitzkrieg, which ultimately failed? Does Azerbaijan massively use combat aircraft, ironing out the near rear of the enemy's armed forces, and armor is included in the breakthrough? You can forget about blitzkrieg in the conditions of modern wars ...

    Quote: Bakinec
    Which Turkish Syrian troops, which Turkish special forces? You still stick the Martians.

    No, Martians are nge cool. Spetsnaz from Jupiter (super warriors raised in high gravity) or DRG from Alpha Centauri or Betelgeuse - this is just right

    Quote: MVG
    If anyone has paid attention, in most cases, a strike on ground targets is made not from the drone itself, but from the side. The drone itself acts as a means of observation and target designation.

    I think you are right. The attack is carried out either with weapons from the suspension of the UAV, if it is a shock one, or from loitering ammunition. They have a characteristic video. The last seconds before the impact are the last seconds of the video. Then the PSU hits the target and the camera, of course, yok ...
    There are no interceptor UAVs yet ... but the trend towards their appearance is evident


    Quote: tralflot1832
    In the mountains, I see, according to the maps, the pace of the offensive has fallen sharply. Where is the work of the UAV in the mountains and not on the plain. Judging by the 3D maps, it is still convenient for Armenians to defend themselves.

    Well, in the mountains, Andrei, there are no such goals as on the plain. You will not use serious ammunition on a specific soldier below. There are no camps in the mountains (forests) yet, or they decided not to take risks and not make them. Therefore, the use of UAVs decreased, as did the pace of the offensive. Mountains are still mountains, and there you have to move carefully, with an eye. Otherwise, you can grab it at the most

    Quote: Sinugamb
    It is in the mountains that the Armenians are less vulnerable, so the main war is still ahead!

    In the mountains, they might be less vulnerable in summer, but not in winter. Winter in the mountains is not a fountain. Moreover, they are unlikely to have reliance on the local Armenian population. And without this, the partisan detachment will very soon either "crumble" (die, forced to leave for Armenia due to illness, frostbite of the detachment members) or turn into an ordinary gang.
  • Timofey Charuta
    Timofey Charuta 31 October 2020 13: 45 New
    0
    Gentlemen, where is the video of how the Armenians destroyed at least something?

    Or is this the selection of material? Or is there really nothing to show?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 October 2020 23: 20 New
      0
      Rather, there is nothing to show from the Armenian side - because they have nothing to conduct intelligence with.
  • rotfuks
    rotfuks 31 October 2020 14: 45 New
    +6
    I propose to exclude them purely accused Soros and his team. The process began much earlier. Many have already forgotten that on July 10, 1992, five Russian paratroopers were killed in Leninakan. Then, in the center of the city, five Russian servicemen were simply executed by Armenian militias. Nobody remembered that the soldiers of this division saved the Armenians during the terrible earthquake of 1988 and dismantled the ruins and gave the Armenians food and shelter. And it was not Soros who handed over to the hands of the Armenian demonstrators transporters demanding that the "Russian occupants" get out of Armenia. If this "ancient, wise" and "noble" people does not have a sense of self-preservation and an elementary conscience, then let the Janissaries and their descendants refresh their memory.
  • Old26
    Old26 31 October 2020 19: 16 New
    +3
    Quote: Timofey Charuta
    Gentlemen, where is the video of how the Armenians destroyed at least something?

    Yes, like something was laid out, but more often a photo, not a video. Compared to Azerbaijani videos, there are very few Armenian videos. Theirshaya Shushan only speaks without supporting it with video materials. And Azerbaijan also has losses. On October 26-27, they lost about 22 tanks, maybe a little more, destroying at least one and a half hundred Armenian tanks, plus they captured a little more than fifty Armenian tanks as trophies. Captured twice as much as we lost ourselves
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 31 October 2020 19: 47 New
    -2
    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Timofey Charuta
    Gentlemen, where is the video of how the Armenians destroyed at least something?

    Yes, like something was laid out, but more often a photo, not a video. Compared to Azerbaijani videos, there are very few Armenian videos. Theirshaya Shushan only speaks without supporting it with video materials. And Azerbaijan also has losses. On October 26-27, they lost about 22 tanks, maybe a little more, destroying at least one and a half hundred Armenian tanks, plus they captured a little more than fifty Armenian tanks as trophies. Captured twice as much as we lost ourselves

    Much more interesting is not the destruction, but the capture of the Osa-AKM air defense system, the Armenians threw work on the Belarusian Tetrahedron.


    According to the news, it did not seem to pass, but the fact is that the Azerbaijanis have the Armenian Wasp, the numbers on the cars are Azerbaijani.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 October 2020 20: 04 New
    -1
    Quote: MTN
    Quote: Hunter 2
    No buddy, you don't know what Mountains are.

    I know very well what mountains are. The most ideal weapons against them are Armenians, they are partisans.

    Quote: Hunter 2
    Already tired of your war, sit down and negotiate.

    Azerbaijan has been negotiating for 30 years. Result? In addition, they sign and then they themselves break. So no conversations. For the sake of appearance, let's do it. And so we must hurry. Until Pashinyan is removed, we must hurry. God knows when such an opportunity will arise.

    Russia needs to stand in an observer position until one of the sides crawls on its knees asking for help. The request must be listened to and refused.) laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 October 2020 20: 08 New
    -2
    Turkey will occupy Transcaucasia and try to crawl into Central Asia? Yes, the flag in her hands. laughing No, today's Ankara certainly has such a desire. But she does not have the resources required for such a task. This means that the Turks will inevitably become the usual way to solve the problem, through the degradation of local elites and governing structures. With the planting of a mess and the re-introduction of all the unresolved internal conflicts. wassat
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 October 2020 20: 11 New
    -1
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Ours would just bark there once, like do not calm down, a "magically subduing" rocket will arrive and reconcile everyone, in the next world! 

    Something like this: [media = http: // https: //youtu.be/UM3xUmdnwdM] laughing

    Minusers - when the Azerbaijani artillery rumbles on the streets of Yerevan, I will remind you of this laughingHow it looks, almost anyone can see on the example of that part of Syria, which was under the barmaley of all colors and shades. With religious radicalism, cutting off heads, war of all against all, and widespread banditry.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 October 2020 20: 25 New
    -1
    The speaker of the Russian Foreign Ministry said on the air of the Russia 24 TV channel that all aspects of the letter of the Armenian Prime Minister to Russian President Vladimir Putin will be discussed additionally.
    Earlier, Pashinyan turned to Putin and asked to start consultations on possible Russian assistance to Armenia. The head of government said that the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh poses a threat directly to the territory of the Armenian state.

    read more on the Russian Dialogue website: https://www.rusdialog.ru/russia/203369_1604162888?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop laughing
    Recall that on the morning of October 31, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan asked Vladimir Putin to start consultations on assistance to Armenia in accordance with a bilateral cooperation agreement of 1997. Recall, the Russian Foreign Ministry replied that the battles are not being fought on the territory of Armenia.

    Zakharova's followers proposed to withdraw the Russian military base from the territory of Armenia. In response, it was mentioned that the 102nd base in Gyumri saves the territorial integrity of Armenia, and that no one in Russia would be upset with the closure of this base.

    The 102nd base was founded in Armenia in the spring of 1995, based on the Treaty on the Legal Status of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, signed on August 21, 1992, and the Treaty on the Russian military base on the territory of the Republic of Armenia.

    The combat mission of the base is to protect the southern borders of Russia in cooperation with the armed forces of the Republic of Armenia. The 102nd military base is a motorized rifle brigade reinforced with operational-tactical missile systems, multiple launch rocket systems and air defense systems. The potential of its airbase is much higher than that of the Armenian Air Force.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 October 2020 20: 30 New
    -2
    Further, after the Russian Federation makes the most decisive proposals, it will be very funny to see how Kyrgyzstan will react to them, where the pro-Turkish Maidan recently took place. Then - to Latin Kazakhstan, and only in the last place - to Belarus. If the Turkic members of the CSTO start giving back, then they will immediately send the Armenians to the erotic on foot, and redirect all the negative from this to Wed. Asia. If they support and make anti-Turkish statements, then it’s the bang-bang turn to stay in the CSTO or leave.   laughing