In the United States, they found a sphere for the active use of F-117 stealth aircraft

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The famous F-117s, nicknamed "Nighthawks", suddenly appeared at the US Marine Corps base in Miramar. This should come as a surprise when you remember that the F-117 was removed from service by the US Army in 2008.

Recall that the Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk is a single-seat, low-signature subsonic tactical attack aircraft. He was in service with the American army in 1983-2008. During this time, the "Nighthawks" managed to take part in a number of armed conflicts, including the invasion of Panama, the wars in the Persian Gulf and Yugoslavia, and the 2003 Iraqi war. A total of 64 F-117 aircraft were produced.



At the same time, the aircraft showed itself quite well, but in 2008 it was still decided to withdraw it from service. One of the main reasons for this decision was the development of the latest F-22 Raptor aircraft, with which the Pentagon was going to replace the F-117. Nevertheless, the "Nighthawks" were not finally gotten rid of.

Tyler Rogoway, author of the popular publication The Drive, writes that F-117s have recently been increasingly used in large-scale military exercises of the American army. The scope of their application has been found. This is a small fraction of the approximately 40 aircraft still in storage. Now the F-117 is used as an "enemy" during exercises. Since the aircraft is of low visibility, the radars of new aircraft, primarily the F-35, are checked on it. In addition, F-117s are involved in practicing air combat tactics.

So, in May 2020, F-117 aircraft made a number of sorties over the Pacific Ocean as an enemy of the US Navy strike aircraft carrier group. Then the planes could be observed over the Mojave Desert. Such activity of F-117 is associated, according to Rogoway, with various factors. An important role is played by the loss of the US monopoly on stealth technology: now "invisible" planes appear in potential enemies, which means that it is necessary to constantly improve the target detection infrastructure of the US Air Force fighter planes.

Of course, the F-117 can hardly be called an advanced aircraft in terms of stealth technology, but in any case it is a difficult and dangerous enemy. In addition, in the current situation, the F-117 is still a worthy aerial vehicle, at least until the American aviation will be able to use real fifth generation strike aircraft.

Until recently, the US military used less modern aircraft as an "enemy" in exercises. But the growing challenges of our time dictate the need to adjust the curriculum. American pilots need to train to act against a serious enemy, including those with stealth aircraft.

The use of the F-117 allows not only to improve the quality of training of crews and ground services, but also to identify "pain points" of modern fighters during testing, drawing attention to those areas in which work should be accelerated. According to Rogoway, the Pentagon has a unique chance to constantly increase the combat capabilities of new aircraft, and the F-117 will help American aviation in this, at least until more modern aircraft appear in the squadrons of conditional opponents.
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  1. +18
    21 October 2020 12: 58
    It is clear that it is stupid to cut them, they still fly.
    1. +5
      21 October 2020 13: 25
      Of course, they still fly.
      Stealth technologies are there, but now they are not suitable for anything else. There is no radar even ...
      Only for the development of technologies for detection and training of flight personnel will fit.

      A raid on decommissioned and returned aircraft does not waste the resource of truly combat combat vehicles; control there is not easy, which is also useful for developing flying skills, well, single-seat disciplines - the pilots of the bomber (and he is not a fighter at all) aviation have clearly lost the habit of flying alone.

      The American position is interesting: to use all available opportunities. It is a pity to finally write off expensive aircraft.
      Although, as for me, it would be better to cut wink
      1. +2
        21 October 2020 13: 31
        For detection technology, you can EASILY use the F-35 of which many times more.
        117 needs pilots.
        F-35 in service, i.e. trained pilots available.

        In general, some kind of nonsense.

        And yet, American stealth is primarily about covering an aircraft. And it is very tender.

        On horseradish goat bayan? request
        1. +2
          21 October 2020 13: 47
          Quote: Temples
          And yet, American stealth is primarily about covering an airplane.

          Maybe they are right in this, they are testing new coatings, new equipment. It's a pity to spoil the new plane, the old one is not.
        2. 0
          21 October 2020 18: 55
          Are you sure? About the F-117, this is more and more a form, because of which it can NOT fly without an EDSU.
          1. +3
            21 October 2020 19: 15
            Quote: 3danimal
            Are you sure? About the F-117, this is more and more a form, because of which it can NOT fly without an EDSU.

            For example, F-15,16, Typhoon, Su-27,30,34,35, F-22,35, F-18, Rafal and many other aircraft cannot fly without EDSU
            1. 0
              21 October 2020 20: 56
              For example, F-15,16, Typhoon, Su-27,30,34,35, F-22,35, F-18, Rafal and many other aircraft cannot fly without EDSU

              I will clarify: F-117 permanently needs the assistance of an autopilot. And the same F-15 is quite stable in "manual" mode. The aerodynamics are different.
              1. +1
                21 October 2020 21: 06
                EDSU and autopilot are two different things. Static instability is the third
                1. 0
                  21 October 2020 22: 03
                  Everything is correct, incorrectly named.
                  The instability and tendency of the F-117 to "uncontrollability" are forced, a consequence of the specificity of the forms reflecting the X-ray radiation.
                  Please note: no rivets, carefully fitted surfaces, all hatches, doors - with a sawtooth edge.
                  All of the above gives the lion's share of ESR reduction and works against all wavelengths (with different efficiency).
                  still, stealth in the American way is primarily an airplane cover

                  Here another question arose: what then is stealth in Russian? (The author obviously means opposition) Forms?
  2. +9
    21 October 2020 12: 59
    Produced 68, but a "small part" of 40 remained. )):
    The Drive has already discussed this topic as well as other media. Since the decommissioning, these aircraft have constantly flown under the programs of NASA and Air Force laboratories. This has long been known, but every year there are articles with a sensational headline.
  3. +7
    21 October 2020 13: 00
    An airplane that does not have built-in weapons and radar, it can hardly fly, called "Lame dwarf", only by mistake bearing the index "F".
    1. +1
      21 October 2020 14: 36
      misunderstanding named.


      Not through misunderstanding, but for disinformation and secrecy.
      1. +1
        21 October 2020 14: 55
        Quote: Choi
        Not through misunderstanding, but for disinformation and secrecy.

        He received this nickname in the army, not from the developers.
    2. 0
      22 October 2020 00: 40
      Quote: Ua3qhp
      only by mistake bearing the index "F"

      For political reasons. At the time when the Reagan administration had to knock money out of Congress for its design and construction, there were most of the crap in both chambers, and they would never give money for a new bomber or stormtrooper. Therefore, it was called "fighter". The size seemed to fit. And it may well carry a couple, or even more, air-to-air missiles. Of course, maneuverable combat is not something he can do anything decently, but he is quite capable of snapping back. And since a fighter, unlike a bomber, is more of a defensive than an offensive weapon, it was easier to feed it to the crap under this sauce.
      1. 0
        22 October 2020 08: 47
        Will it direct air-to-air missiles by eye? There is no radar.
  4. 0
    21 October 2020 13: 03
    Interestingly, and to give authenticity, as Americans like to do, they will apply red stars on the tail unit?
    1. +3
      21 October 2020 13: 23
      Why would they need an extra headache? First, red stars, then the pilot will be drawn into the image of a Russian pilot, which is already fraught with the development of an inferiority complex in the rest smile
      1. +2
        21 October 2020 13: 40
        It may well be.
        Although, if you look at how Russians are presented in their movies, then such a pilot will simply put on an earflap with a cockade, take a bottle of vodka in one hand, a balalaika in the other, and put a bear at the steering wheel, and forward to the enemy of the enemy capitalist. laughing
    2. +1
      21 October 2020 14: 56
      Quote: And
      Interestingly, and to give authenticity, as Americans like to do, they will apply red stars on the tail unit?

      Yes, even without stars, you can't confuse him with anything.
  5. -2
    21 October 2020 13: 05
    There are two options, either they have modernized the striped ones, or the cases are seamed, since the rarities are taken out and the dust is shaken off.
  6. +2
    21 October 2020 13: 06
    The famous F-117, nicknamed "Nighthawks"

    they were nicknamed "lame dwarfs"
  7. qaz
    +2
    21 October 2020 13: 16
    Use a tactical bomber as an exercise fighter ?! Excellent!!!
    1. 0
      21 October 2020 13: 23
      on the f-111 it was quite suitable as a fighter. than the f-117 is worse if it portrays a target?
    2. +1
      21 October 2020 13: 37
      Mattress mattresses, even during the exercises of the "enemy", are placed in obviously unequal conditions. winked
  8. 0
    21 October 2020 13: 22
    Quote: Ua3qhp
    only by misunderstanding bearing the index "F".

    F- not from the word fighter, but from the word fail
  9. +1
    21 October 2020 13: 23
    Prepare intensively and varied !!!
    It looks like the Pentagon got so serious and started doing BUSINESS, among other things.
  10. +6
    21 October 2020 13: 46
    It was a cool game
    1. +1
      21 October 2020 14: 13
      ,
      Quote: Angelo Provolone
      It was a cool game

      EMNIP it was called F-19 ...
      1. +3
        21 October 2020 14: 18
        F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter 2.0 is a flight simulator of the American Air Force F-117 combat aircraft, made using stealth technology, from Microprose. The game is considered a continuation of the game F-19 Stealth Fighter [2], therefore it contains the number "2.0" in the title.
        1. 0
          21 October 2020 20: 05
          Quote: Angelo Provolone
          F-117

          There was an option for the Spectrum. I have not seen it on other computers.
      2. 0
        21 October 2020 19: 31
        Quote: PSih2097
        EMNIP it was called F-19 ...
        No, the "F-19" had a different dashboard:
    2. +3
      21 October 2020 15: 32
      - Friends! We are gathered here on the occasion of the solemn and doubly pleasant. Today marks twenty years of work of Kuzma Ulyanovich Staropopikov in the State Planning Committee. And this very morning Kuzma Ulyanovich shot down his thousandth MiG over Libya!

      The pilots applauded and turned to the hero of the occasion sitting in the center of the table - it was a short, plump and bald little man in thick glasses, the bow of which was wrapped in black thread. He did not stand out at all - on the contrary, he was the most inconspicuous at the table, and, only looking closely, Sasha noticed on his chest several rows of order strips - though also unfamiliar.

      - I take the liberty of saying that Kuzma Ulyanovich is the best pilot of the State Planning Commission! And the Order "Purple Heart" he recently received from Congress will be the fifth on his chest.

      They applauded again around; several times Kuzma Ulyanovich was slapped on the shoulders and back; he blushed deeply, waved his hand, took off his glasses and wiped them for a long time with a handkerchief.

      “And that's not all,” the gray-haired man continued, “except for the fifteenth and sixteenth ef, Kuzma Ulyanovich has recently mastered the newest fighter - the nineteen ef-nineteen Stealths. On his account, and many technical improvements - after comprehending the experience of battles in the skies of Vietnam, he asked his mechanic to add two files in assembler so that the cannon and machine gun work from one key, and now we all use it ...
      © Pelevin. Prince of the State Planning Commission.
  11. +1
    21 October 2020 14: 25
    I think they have a different role in all these teachings.
    Checking stealth is now very simple: I divided the F-35 into two groups -
    "friendly" and "enemy", and practice all types of attacks, recording air battles on
    computer.
    1. +1
      21 October 2020 14: 56
      Maybe new stealth coatings, maybe new equipment, a lot will fit into their weapon bays. Maybe the general in charge served on the F-117s and likes them. You can guess endlessly.
      1. +2
        21 October 2020 15: 07
        Rather, your first option.
  12. -2
    21 October 2020 14: 53
    EPR of F-117 - about 0,1 sq.m, F-22 - 0,2 sq.m, F-35 and Su-57 - 0,3 sq.m. At the same time, the F-117 absorbs radio waves in the decimeter range even better (due to the design of the airframe with large honeycombs).

    Then why would a goat accordion - use the F-117 as a simulator of other stealth aircraft?
    1. +1
      21 October 2020 16: 27
      Quote: Operator
      Then why would a goat accordion - use the F-117 as a simulator of other stealth aircraft?

      Most likely the radar is being checked)))
  13. -8
    21 October 2020 16: 40
    In Yugoslavia, I remember they used these "stealth" .. Serbs clicked them out of obsolete Soviet anti-aircraft guns .. laughing
    1. +6
      21 October 2020 19: 05
      1 shot down (by visual guidance channel), for 800 sorties. And not one was left laughing
      (It is bad to form an opinion using rumors)
      1. -2
        21 October 2020 19: 27
        Quote: 3danimal
        1 shot down (by visual guidance channel), for 800 sorties. And not one was left laughing
        (It is bad to form an opinion using rumors)

        Well, even if only one (which is not true), but what an effect it was .. These "unknowns" no longer threaten anyone much, like today's F-35s, etc.
        They are not particularly afraid of them, and AUGs too .. And who is to blame? Mother Russia, the US has clicked on the nose of the impudent United States and is still clicking ... Then your howling again about the "Russian threat" .. laughing hi
        1. 0
          21 October 2020 21: 00
          Well, even if only one (which is not true)

          Facts in the studio smile
          but what effect was

          Has this "effect" prevented NATO from achieving its goals? No. The effect was only in our and, possibly, Serbian media. The Americans made their conclusions and that's it.
          Mother Russia, on the nose of the impudent United States clicked and still clicks

          Lots of ideology.
          Remember also how the Su-24 turned off an entire destroyer smile
        2. 0
          23 October 2020 09: 49
          These "invisibles" no longer threaten anyone.

          Is it? They served until 2007, successfully (without loss) participated in the 2003 campaign ("Freedom for Iraq").
          There are stealth technologies, they work and give noticeable advantages. And the designers of the Su-57 used them (how effective is another question) in the plane not for the sake of beauty.
  14. 0
    21 October 2020 21: 11
    As aerial targets - a good option.
  15. 0
    22 October 2020 13: 04
    Quote: Temples
    For detection technology, you can EASILY use the F-35 of which many times more.
    117 needs pilots.

    - They are. Four instructors have flown the F-4 over the years, maintaining their level of training. Surely they also trained 117-4-8 pilots to replace themselves - "just in case."
    F-35 in service, i.e. trained pilots available.
    In general, some kind of nonsense.

    - There is no nonsense: the F-117, unlike the F-22, or from the F-35 has a relatively flat circular EPR signature: frontal ~ 0.001 m0.01, and behind ~ 22 m35, while the F-50 and F-XNUMX have this the difference can be XNUMX or more times.
    And yet, American stealth is primarily about covering an aircraft. And it is very tender.

    The first is the form.
    Secondly, this is the absence of all kinds of protruding parts, borders of hatches, screws, rivets, joints that increase the RCS.
    Thirdly, the material of the cladding.
    Fourthly, this is the coverage.
    Etc.
    On horseradish goat bayan? request

    - Convenient - F-117 stealth from any angle. According to reviews, his glider can work for another 40 years, has not worn out. It is only necessary to maintain the state of its delicate multi-layer sheathing. But, obviously, they are ready to go for these expenses. And its RCS, apparently, is more suitable for the RCS of the Chinese J-20 and J-31, IMHO - RCS of the F-22 and F-35 are too small to imitate the Chinese (although you can choose the appropriate Luneberg lenses), while the F-117 - just right. And don't really waste the extra F-22 / F-35 resource.
  16. 0
    22 October 2020 13: 09
    Quote: Operator
    EPR of F-117 - about 0,1 sq.m, F-22 - 0,2 sq.m, F-35 and Su-57 - 0,3 sq.m.

    - No need to drive a stupid parachute. Not seriously.
    At the same time, the F-117 absorbs radio waves in the decimeter range even better (due to the design of the airframe with large honeycombs).

    - And centimeter - due to multilayer cladding. The glider has nothing to do with it.
  17. 0
    22 October 2020 13: 15
    Quote: novel xnumx
    The famous F-117, nicknamed "Nighthawks"

    they were nicknamed "lame dwarfs"

    - Wobbly Goblin - Waddling Goblin.