"Long-range cannon shooting up to Moscow": the USA told about the new weapon

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In the United States, they talked about the emergence of an ultra-long-range gun, with which the Americans will be able to "shoot to Moscow." Pentagon Dreams were voiced by Popular Mechanics magazine.

An article by a well-known American publication is about the SLRC (Strategic Long Range Cannon) ultra-long-range cannon, which is to be put into service with the US Army in the near future. For the first time, the world press learned about the newest weapons United States in 2019. The gun was taken to the Yuma military training ground in Arizona.



It is there that for another 2,5 years, until 2023, its combat capabilities will be tested.



The Pentagon expects that the use of the SLRC cannon in a modern armed conflict will pave the way for a subsequent offensive by ground forces. The first in case of war will be hit by an ultra-long-range gun, and from positions inaccessible to a potential enemy.

Strategic Long Range Cannon target - Russia and China


As for the intended goals of the new gun, there is no doubt - first of all, these are military and industrial facilities in China and Russia. In this regard, it is easy to predict the territories where the new cannon can be deployed. Firstly, this is South Korea, which is considered by the United States as the most important springboard for action against the PRC in the event of a hypothetical Sino-American military conflict. From the same bridgehead it will be possible to attack the Far East.

Secondly, this is Poland and the three "Baltic sisters" - Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, from whose territory it is theoretically possible to strike at the largest and most important cities of Russia - Moscow and St. Petersburg, as well as Belarus. Considering that both Poland and the Baltic countries are members of the North Atlantic Alliance, the American military department will not have any problems with the deployment of weapons on their territory. Moreover, the "hotheads" from these countries can themselves beg the Americans to place the latest cannon on their territory, giving little thought to the fact that in response to shelling from an ultra-long-range cannon, Russia can deliver a much more serious blow.

In the magazine Popular Mechanics, however, are called other ways to use the latest gun. For example, according to American experts, the appearance of such a gun could give an impetus to the revival of the class of ships in the US Navy, similar to the battleships of the "Montana" type, which were planned to be built during the Second World War. In the case of installing a gun on such ships, the American Navy would have the opportunity to shell the northern Russian territories from the North Sea, and it is possible that the Russian capital would also be under threat.

A battleship in the Indian Ocean would target the territories of Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia. It goes without saying that in the Pacific Ocean the DPRK and China could be fired upon. At the same time, in order to be inaccessible for a retaliatory strike, the ships would be placed at a safe distance from the Korean and Chinese coasts, possibly behind Japan.

What is a cannon


But what is such a hyped gun? The SLRC has a distant similarity in its design to the American 280-mm M65 cannon, designed back in the 1950s and designed to fire nuclear projectiles at a distance of up to 36 kilometers. Most likely, the SLRC projectile will have a two-stage jet engine. The gun will be able to serve 8 people, each artillery battery will have 4 guns.

Meanwhile, how can we not recall the famous super-gun of Hitler's Germany "Dora". The Wehrmacht also pinned great hopes on her during the assault on Sevastopol. But story its use is beautifully summarized in the words of the then Chief of the General Staff of the Wehrmacht, Colonel General Franz Halder:

A real work of art, but useless.

In the end, Field Marshal Erich von Manstein, who admitted in his memoirs that the effect of using a supergun could not justify the high costs of its creation, spoke a little softer, but in about the same vein.

It is possible that in modern conditions the American project will not become a serious threat to potential opponents of the United States. Another thing is that one should not underestimate the PR component in creating a new weapon, as well as the manufacturer's desire to receive additional funding.
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  1. +7
    19 October 2020 14: 37
    Pentagon Dreams were voiced by Popular Mechanics magazine.

    The age-old dream of many is to bomb Moscow .. Well, well
    1. +14
      19 October 2020 15: 31
      Quote: VoroncoV
      The age-old dream of many, to bomb Moscow

      In this case, more fantasy
      1. SSR
        +7
        19 October 2020 15: 38
        Quote: vvvjak
        Quote: VoroncoV
        The age-old dream of many, to bomb Moscow

        In this case, more fantasy

        Well, why not?)))
        We will slightly modify the "pipe" of the mortar and call the "Poplar MM" mortar capable of delivering a charge to the United States.
        Iskander mortar, Zircon mortar.
        1. +9
          19 October 2020 15: 45
          I also noticed, since when did Poland and the Tribaltic states become inaccessible positions?
          Now, if straight from Nevada, then it's okay ...
          1. +7
            19 October 2020 17: 51
            Quote: Hagalaz
            Now, if straight from Nevada, then it's okay ...

            Since when has Nevada become an "out of reach object?" laughing Anyway. Even from the Baltic states, one gun and even an artillery battery, in our time, is nothing. As practice has shown, in the event of a full-scale conflict, artillery is good only with massive use. As it was during the Great Patriotic War (especially in the second half of the war), when in some cases, the saturation of the guns was 250-500 guns per kilometer of the front. Hacked any defense. Although, in our time, barrel artillery, for the most part, is replaced by MLRS.
            1. +2
              20 October 2020 09: 12
              Well, I so, with a stretch, "praised" Nevada. What would not at all moan) ...
        2. +4
          19 October 2020 16: 28
          Lately, the Americans have had many great projects! Here is this wonderful project ... Only a little late and repeated: it was described by Jules Verne back in 1865! It was only later, 20 years later, a similar project was announced by Raspe for his baron ... laughing laughing laughing
      2. 0
        19 October 2020 21: 09
        Media workers' fantasy has no boundaries
  2. +15
    19 October 2020 14: 38
    "Shoot to Moscow." Pentagon dreams
    These are no longer dreams, this is a mania ... Some kind of inferiority complex.
    1. +5
      19 October 2020 16: 55
      Quote: Lesovik
      This is no longer a dream, this is a mania ... An inferiority complex of some kind

      ======
      These are not dreams .... And not even a mania ..... This is a DIAGNOSIS !!! ( wassat )
      1. 0
        19 October 2020 18: 52
        Quote: venik
        Quote: Lesovik
        This is no longer a dream, this is a mania ... An inferiority complex of some kind

        ======
        These are not dreams .... And not even a mania ..... This is a DIAGNOSIS !!! ( wassat )

        ett not a diagnosis, ett elections
        1. +1
          20 October 2020 12: 34
          Quote: poquello
          ett not a diagnosis, ett elections

          =======
          good drinks
  3. +7
    19 October 2020 14: 39
    Most likely, the SLRC projectile will have a two-stage jet engine.

    In fact, a rocket fired from the barrel of a cannon. What is the advantage over conventional missiles? The estimated range is 1600-1800 km. Bypass the INF Treaty? So there is no this treaty already.
    1. +8
      19 October 2020 14: 45
      In fact, rockets are fired from the barrel of a cannon. What is the advantage over conventional missiles?

      More expensive launcher.
      Let them do, a lot, a lot of good metal will remain.
      1. +5
        19 October 2020 14: 56
        A real work of art, but useless.
        Comprehensive description!
    2. 0
      19 October 2020 14: 59
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      What is the advantage over conventional missiles? The estimated range is 1600-1800 km.

      Apparently it's cheaper.
      1. +18
        19 October 2020 15: 12
        Apparently it's cheaper.

        The cannon shells on Zamvolta, with a range of just over 100 km, turned out to be under a million dollars, and the topic was closed.
        The transport system (like Iskander) has a plus - it launched 2 missiles and drove away from the counter-battery float.
        And then what? Satellite Guidance? Why a barrel?
        Not otherwise, there is nothing to frighten China, so they are trying their last bit.
        100% dead end. Let them spend more money. bully
        1. +1
          19 October 2020 15: 32
          Quote: Alex777
          Cannon shells on Zamvolt, with a range of just over 100 km

          The cost of the Tomahawk is $ 1.5-1.9 million, the cost of this shell is $ 400-500 thousand, three times cheaper.
          1. +6
            19 October 2020 16: 02
            Quote: figvam
            The cost of the Tomahawk is $ 1.5-1.9 million, the cost of this shell is $ 400-500 thousand, three times cheaper.

            A bit wrong:
            the requirement of the US army is to keep the cost of one shot of this weapon in the range of no more than 400-500 thousand dollars.
            © bmpd
            That is, 400-500 kilobax is only the customer's requirement. And what will turn out in real life - no one knows.
            And second: when comparing with the "tomahawk" it would be nice to take into account not only the cost, but also the mass of explosives delivered to the target. And then suddenly it turns out that instead of one "ax" you need three or four missile shells. smile
            1. +1
              19 October 2020 16: 22
              In real life, this is what:
              Due to the reduction in the estimated number of ships of this series, the cost of one projectile has increased to $ 800 thousand, and taking into account the depreciation and operating costs of the destroyer itself, one shot can cost the budget up to $ 2 million.

              It has been known for a long time:
              https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2016/11/07/10312799.shtml
              https://tech.onliner.by/2016/11/08/uss-zumwalt
              1. +3
                19 October 2020 16: 29
                That is exactly what I had in mind. smile
                There was also a good example of an infantry fighting vehicle for the marines - EFV - when a reduction in the volume of purchases led to the fact that the BMP began to cost as a pair of Abrams (after which the program was closed).
          2. +1
            19 October 2020 16: 23
            You are wrong. And thank God. wink
        2. +10
          19 October 2020 16: 23
          Quote: Alex777
          And then what? Satellite Guidance? Why a barrel?
          Not otherwise, there is nothing to frighten China, so they are trying their last bit.

          At one time there was an anecdotal incident at the construction of the Ararat cement plant. The installers enlarged the chimney (approximately 400mm diameter and 30m length). Due to the lack of a large crane, they began to lift it using the falling chevre method. It was about five kilometers to the border with Turkey, the pipe was laid towards the border. We started lifting the pipe according to the attached diagram.

          They just raised the commercials by 15 degrees, in Turkey there is panic, alarm, calls. After a while, our border guards arrived: - What are you doing here? The Turks are calling that the Armenians are here preparing a huge cannon for a shot! laughing
    3. +1
      19 October 2020 15: 15
      Well, yes, there would be an electromagnetic gun, it would be understandable, but so .. the symbiosis of an active-rocket projectile with a rocket.
    4. 0
      19 October 2020 18: 08
      With this cannon, the projectile will be fired into the upper layers of the troposphere and glide from there thanks to the deploying wings, essentially turning into a kind of guided warhead - so it will overcome 1600 - 1800 kilometers GPS guidance, gas-dynamic rudders control. The advantage of low cost compared to the CD and MRBM is the ease of deployment and transportation, and even for air defense missile defense such projectiles will pose a big problem both in detection and interception.
      1. +3
        19 October 2020 18: 20
        Quote: Vadim237
        cheapness in comparison with CD and MRBM, ease of deployment and transportation, and even for air defense missile defense, such projectiles will present a big problem both in detection and interception.

        Very controversial. The price of the projectile will be comparable to missiles, medium-range missiles put on a wheel drive will be easier to deploy, transport and much more maneuverable. Air defense / missile defense is more complicated, but they do not cope well with ballistic and quasi-ballistic missiles.
        They are developing medium-range hypersonic missiles LRHW, "on paper" it will be more effective.


        1. -3
          19 October 2020 18: 42
          "Very controversial. The price of the shell will be comparable to missiles, medium-range missiles put on a wheel drive will be easier to deploy, transport and much more maneuverable." A medium-range missile costs at least $ 10 million, a Tomahawk missile 3 million - a 280 millimeter projectile will cost around a million dollars, and yes, this gun will also have its own tractor and a wheeled carriage support - the platform in a combat position, the support carriage will simply be lowered onto the ground. It will not be necessary to lift it even from the tractor, which in turn will ensure its mobility is in no way inferior to mobile ground missile systems.
          1. 0
            21 October 2020 07: 27
            Max S

            There can be no talk of any reduction in cost, since when firing from barrel artillery, a projectile is affected by 3-4 orders of magnitude greater overloads than when using missiles (from 3 to 20 thousand g). Consequently, the GOS will be more expensive, all structural elements will have to be made stronger and heavier, which will require a greater mass of fuel. And the gain in reducing the thrust impulse is not significant - for full-caliber barrel systems, the initial speed limit is 1000-1200 m / s, and for shooting at 1850 km, a speed of 2700-3000 m / s is needed, i.e. the projectile's own impulse after exiting the bore should be at the level of 200s., which means either a decrease in the payload to 5-10% of its mass, or the use of a two-stage scheme (that Frankenstein still comes out - a two-stage active-rocket projectile - even it's scary to imagine), and most importantly, to get the same 1000-1200m / s initial speed, just one more jet stage with a mass even less than that of the "projectile" is enough. At the same time, there are no problems with the strength of the structure during acceleration in the bore, with restrictions on the size of the ammunition, with the effect of powder gases and acceleration in the barrel on the TTRD fuel, and many other possible problems.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-S_Y3ShfU
  4. +11
    19 October 2020 14: 40
    Jules Verne - was the designer? belay laughing
    He only wanted to send a shell to the moon, and then immediately to Moscow ...
    And they don't expect anything back? wink
    1. +4
      19 October 2020 14: 53
      Moscow's kneeling
      With the keys of the old Kremlin:

      nothing new ... Lesha, hello! hi
      1. +3
        19 October 2020 15: 04
        Greetings Roman hi Yes, Exactly, everything is well forgotten old! The Mattress has an excellent military budget, there is where to roam!
        Remember a couple of years ago about the railgun? The task remained - the wunderwaffe was changed! laughing
        1. +4
          19 October 2020 15: 24
          step back, definitely! but how they shot down, how they shot down ...
          1. +4
            19 October 2020 16: 33
            Arnie also managed to wander with railguns
    2. +1
      19 October 2020 15: 14
      In the return line, you can get anything you want, and the accuracy of the blow is optional. am
    3. -1
      19 October 2020 15: 25
      Quote: Hunter 2
      And they don't expect anything back?

      Are waiting! Musk is busy with the issue. They say successfully.)))
    4. +6
      19 October 2020 15: 25
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Jules Verne - was the designer?

      Do not understand at all why THIS ....? You mean a cannon? Another "wunderwaffe" and cut the budget. The only thing that comes to mind is shooting with special ammunition. But this is already the beginning of a nuclear war, where missiles have an advantage in everything.
      Judging by the photo, that in movement, that in combat work, the thing is slow. It will not be difficult to spot it, and the range of the OTRK operation is guaranteed to cover it.
      There is an idea that she will be deliberately vtyuhivat Tribalts, and get money, and stories about "protection" ... laughing
      1. +5
        19 October 2020 15: 32
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        It will not be difficult to spot it, and the range of the OTRK is guaranteed to cover it.
        There is an idea that she will be deliberately vtyuhivat Tribalts, and get money, and stories about "protection" ... laughing

        But the little tribalts will have the Biggest Cannon! fellow
        1. +1
          19 October 2020 22: 21
          Quote: Hunter 2
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          It will not be difficult to spot it, and the range of the OTRK is guaranteed to cover it.
          There is an idea that she will be deliberately vtyuhivat Tribalts, and get money, and stories about "protection" ... laughing

          But the little tribalts will have the Biggest Cannon! fellow


          Well, if this "Biggest Cannon" is going to be made at the base M65, then against this "antiques", we have a worthy "Veteran".
          Moreover, he has experience in dealing with such "wunderwuffs". laughing



          Watch from 1:14:40 to 1:18:23
    5. +1
      20 October 2020 13: 44
      Everyone will have calcium cyanide
  5. +3
    19 October 2020 14: 42
    Rebirth of Gerald Bull's ideas with his orbital cannons
  6. +6
    19 October 2020 14: 45
    And why such a gun and what kind of Moscow are we talking about? Not the one in Idaho? what
  7. +1
    19 October 2020 14: 45
    here earlier and much more informative

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3941195.html
  8. HAM
    +1
    19 October 2020 14: 46
    One gets the impression that the Yankees are feverishly and urgently looking for an answer to the "daggers", "overexposures", etc. Almost every day they receive information about the "newest" super pepelats and a lot of super-duper things .. While obvious confusion is visible. ..longer it would persist .......
  9. +12
    19 October 2020 14: 47
    Ilya, when rewriting articles from other resources, be so kind as to bring at least some characteristics! At least the Yankee dream of being able to shoot at a distance of 1800 km! This will be the world's first spitting cannon, which, due to the miraculous overheating and wear of the barrel, the third and fourth shells will stupidly spit out to its own firing position! The Yankees have a super mind, physics was not taught, there are problems with mechanics, as well as with materials science! Let them experiment, on their own territory, do not mind! !!
    1. +5
      19 October 2020 15: 30
      Quote: Thrifty
      This will be the world's first spitting cannon, which, due to the miraculous overheating and wear of the barrel, the third and fourth shells will stupidly spit out to its own firing position!

      good
      I, too, immediately thought about wear. And also about the deformation of the projectile fuel compartment.
  10. +2
    19 October 2020 14: 49
    And how many races on this gun ... in the sense of earning ...?
  11. 0
    19 October 2020 14: 50
    Those. in response to get in the teeth with a vigorous bomb from a submarine off the coast of California in the United States do not expect?
    1. -2
      19 October 2020 15: 00
      Those. in response to get in the teeth with a vigorous bomb from a submarine off the coast of California in the United States do not expect?
      A bomb? Are nuclear submarines using bombs? Uh ...
      1. -1
        19 October 2020 20: 13
        Quote: stalki
        Those. in response to get in the teeth with a vigorous bomb from a submarine off the coast of California in the United States do not expect?
        A bomb? Are nuclear submarines using bombs? Uh ...

        Pomegranates
        1. -2
          19 October 2020 21: 32
          And of course grenades feel nuclear.
          1. -1
            19 October 2020 22: 47
            No, nuclear missiles, you messed it up again
            1. 0
              19 October 2020 23: 43
              Am I mixed up?
  12. 0
    19 October 2020 14: 52
    All this is easy. This cannon can fire, as in a triple jump, several times with one projectile. She shoots for the first time, the projectile remains in the muzzle, and the cannon flies. Then she fires a second time and continues to carry the projectile. Finally, she fires a third time, and they separate. The cannon returns to its starting position. The projectile hits its intended purpose and after the explosion, is collected into atoms and returns to the barrel of the gun. After a slight cooling down, the gun at this time looks for a target and starts triple flight in a new way. As the detective sang in one cartoon, that she was sent somewhere and sent often.
  13. -1
    19 October 2020 14: 55
    Whatever the child would entertain ...
    1. +4
      19 October 2020 14: 57
      Whatever the child would entertain ...
      and chop the attendants ... laughing
  14. +1
    19 October 2020 14: 56
    Something tells me that a shot from this cannon in the direction of Moscow, will smash many American cities to pieces ..... Washington, New York, Los Angeles, .... and not only American ones.
  15. +1
    19 October 2020 14: 58
    This cannon is more of a psychological attack on the enemy, the Yankees are experts in this, they will throw a frightening information about their super weapon capable of anything, and you sit and think it's true or just another show-off.
  16. +5
    19 October 2020 15: 01
    Frankly crazy idea. The resource of the barrel is enough for a very modest number of shots, each of which, in general, starts to influence the accuracy of the subsequent ones pretty cool. The barrel itself will come out VERY massive and expensive, replacing it will be a big hemorrhoid. The rate of fire, due to the large overloads, will not be very much, therefore, it will be necessary to increase the number of barrels (and the mass of the installation itself or the number of platforms). If the projectile is also a two-stage rocket, then the projectile will be expensive, and the requirements for the diameter of the barrel and the removal of air from it before firing will further complicate and increase the cost of the project. The requirements for electronics and projectile design will also be higher than those for conventional missiles. The installation itself in terms of dimensions will be at the level of a soil complex with a heavy ballista. missile (and at a cost, probably no less) - therefore, the issues of adequate camouflage and concealment of massive movements of such complexes are a very dubious undertaking.

    Even a cursory glance at this issue is enough to avoid considering such a weapon as something really serious. The issue of fast transportation of such monsters would bury the European logistics of NATO, the issue of making a sufficient amount would cost a pretty penny (out of proportion to the possibilities) for the American taxpayers. About two-stage missiles for these toys, which (probably) provide for the option of equipping a nuclear warhead (and their price), it is generally better to remain silent, there would be pitch economic darkness.
    1. 0
      19 October 2020 15: 52
      Probably in the fight against Iran, some Latin American countries, this would be a good weapon for the USA.
  17. +2
    19 October 2020 15: 04
    It's a pity that not April XNUMXst. laughing drinks
  18. +4
    19 October 2020 15: 07
    and from positions inaccessible to a potential adversary.

    That there are positions on the globe inaccessible for our missiles? Or are they going to shoot from Mars ..
    1. -2
      19 October 2020 15: 14
      Quote: Svarog
      and from positions inaccessible to a potential adversary.

      That there are positions on the globe inaccessible for our missiles? Or are they going to shoot from Mars ..

      No, out of someone's wet fantasy. Yandex Zen rules. Or how the Americans have it, I have no idea. One fig is no better and no worse than ours hi
  19. +1
    19 October 2020 15: 19
    I remember that the demoniac didn’t bring any trunks to us, as a result, the Red Flag over Berlin. This time you will have to do much harder with these idiots.
  20. 0
    19 October 2020 15: 23
    Few agree with the thesis of the "unattainable", as well as with the "invisible". Blessed is he who believes.
  21. 0
    19 October 2020 15: 26
    Once, Mr. Adolf wanted to use chemical weapons in WW2, he was subtly hinted that a response would arrive ... World history, savings bank # 2! laughing laughing
  22. 0
    19 October 2020 15: 36
    Again, the projectile will be more expensive than the BGM-109 Tomahawk, we already went through this!
    1. +1
      19 October 2020 18: 13
      Tomahawk now costs more than 3 million - so what if a gliding projectile of 280 mm caliber with GPS guidance will definitely not cost more, I think in the region of 700 thousand it will fit per shot.
      1. 0
        19 October 2020 20: 09
        Quote: Vadim237
        so what a gliding projectile of 280 mm caliber with GPS guidance will definitely not cost more, I think in the region of 700 thousand it will fit for a shot.

        What makes you think that this is a gliding projectile? The nearest point is 600 km from the Baltic to Moscow, and 460 km from Ukraine. Until such weapons were invented, and the material says that it is practically a rocket.
        Most likely, the SLRC projectile will have a two-stage jet engine.

        Knowing the Americans, it won't be cheap!
        Quote: Vadim237
        Tomahawk is now worth more than 3 million

        From where infa do not share
        ... The estimated cost of the rocket in 2014 was $ 1,45 million.

        This is Vicki writes, but other sources can be counted.
        On October 7, 2001, the United States launched Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan in response to the September 11 attacks. It began with missile and bomb attacks on Kabul and Kandahar. On the first day, about 50 Tomahawk cruise missiles ($ 70,5 million) were fired at them.

        On March 19, 2011, the United States and Great Britain fired cruise missiles from ships in the Mediterranean Sea into Libya. According to the coalition, more than 110 Tomahawk missiles ($ 155,1 million) were fired at targets. This was the beginning of the military operation "The Beginning of the Odyssey", which lasted until the end of March 2011.

        On the night of April 7, 2017, the US military fired 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles at the Syrian airfield in Shayrat in Homs province. Based on the average price for a missile, this strike could cost the Americans $ 83 million.

        And also $ 3 mil doesn't work .............
        1. 0
          20 October 2020 00: 36
          What makes you think that this is a gliding projectile - a rocket of 280 mm caliber at a distance of 1600 - 1800 kilometers will not fly away for this you need a healthy TTRD according to this scheme with a shot into the upper atmosphere from a cannon with an active jet engine and expanding aerodynamic wings for planning will provide the indicated flight range of this projectile.
        2. 0
          20 October 2020 04: 19
          Inflation is even higher today.
  23. +2
    19 October 2020 15: 37
    I remembered something, just about this gun.

    - Who were you before you became a maid?
    - I was engaged in development.
    - What did you develop?
    - Anus.
    (c) "Members of the School Council"
  24. +1
    19 October 2020 15: 48
    Probably the degradation of technical education in the United States, they are credible PR people, with an evergreen $ they can afford the best engineers from all over the world. Or the laurels of the creator of a cannon who shot at the noble city of Paris do not let them sleep. Even everything with superguns in history ended badly. They'll take our tsar's cannon She didn't seem to shoot, so we stand on the ground, though sometimes with varying success.
  25. +2
    19 October 2020 16: 11
    There was a breath of children's books. Literally yesterday, with the younger, we reread Lev Davydychev. Colonel Shito-Kryto, von Gadke and super-duper-modern bomber "Bukh-Fuck-13". All will not calm down, damn imperialists :)
  26. +1
    19 October 2020 16: 29
    It is possible that in modern conditions the American project will not become a serious threat to potential opponents of the United States. Another thing is that one should not underestimate the PR component in creating a new weapon, as well as the manufacturer's desire to receive additional funding.

    Article reprint from bpmd, there is at least more information)))
    As for the conclusions about the manufacturer's desire, this is understandable. But the shells will come out brilliant, more expensive than for Zumvolt, for this reason they were blocked))
    Since funding comes from different budgets, they decided to strain the warriors))) and so on in a circle!
    Interestingly Musk had a hand in this?
  27. 0
    19 October 2020 17: 31
    Did the Yankees master necromancy and resurrect Bul? Well, we have NIICHAVo in such a case ... laughing laughing
  28. 0
    19 October 2020 17: 56
    After the Russian zircon, the Americans have nothing to cover, so they pulled out the gun
    1. +2
      19 October 2020 18: 22
      This cannon is a very serious thing, in fact, since it can be used to launch not only conventional and nuclear-powered aeroballistic gliding projectiles, but microsatellites into orbit, say, to restore the communication grouping during a cosmic nuclear explosion, without using any cosmodromes or rockets from anywhere in the world even from ships and such shells are a real cheap alternative to cruise missiles and IRBMs, and as for the dimensions of the gun itself, it is hardly much larger than the dimensions of the T 131 gun, it can be transported by C-17 Globemaster III and C-5 Galaxy.
  29. 0
    19 October 2020 18: 00
    I don't understand this project.
    The only way to shoot this far is to throw the projectile vertically from the barrel
    almost into space, where it will turn on the rocket engine, which will take it 1000 miles.
    1. 0
      19 October 2020 18: 43
      So it is on this principle that it will work.
    2. -1
      19 October 2020 19: 48
      A two-stage rocket, a cannon shot acts as the first stage. Well, this ... they have a lot of money to experiment. A whole line of X1-X50 such experiments, some of these planes would look great in alien movies.
      https://history.nasa.gov/monograph31.pdf
      1. 0
        19 October 2020 19: 59
        Thanks to these experimental aircraft and rockets, new processing methods were introduced, new materials, aerodynamic solutions, control systems, new CAD development methods, and much more if someone thinks that the United States was doing all this in vain and the efficiency from this was not a great mistake.
        1. -1
          19 October 2020 20: 02
          I absolutely agree with this. In theory, such a gun would look good on a ship. If the price of the projectile is $ 1-1,5 million.
  30. 0
    20 October 2020 08: 24
    Quote: voyaka uh
    I don't understand this project.
    The only way to shoot this far is to throw the projectile vertically from the barrel
    almost into space, where it will turn on the rocket engine, which will take it 1000 miles.

    There is an inverse relationship between the projectile launch angle and the flight range l (), but only in the range of angle values ​​from 50 to 80 degrees, and in the range of angle values ​​from 10 to 45 degrees, a direct relationship was found l ().
    The greatest range is reached at 45 degrees.
    We conducted this experiment at school at a physics lesson in the 5th grade soldier
    Chichin, R.A. Investigation of the dependence of the flight range of artillery shells directed at an angle to the horizon / R. A. Chichin, N. L. Glazkova. - Text: direct // Young scientist. - 2016. - No. 1 (4). - S. 32-37. - URL: https://moluch.ru/young/archive/4/228/ (date accessed: 20.10.2020).
    1. 0
      20 October 2020 11: 05
      Your comment has nothing to do with the topic of discussion. The declared "super-duper gun" is just a catapul device for missiles, the engine of which is supposed to be launched already at a distance of less than ten kilometers from the place of the shot. Rockets with a ramjet engine, no ballistic trajectories are provided.
      The cost of the shot is expected to exceed 1 million dead presidents. Cruise missiles cost the same, you can launch them in volleys of hundreds of units ... In short, they will play around and put them in a museum, like Zumwalt.
    2. 0
      20 October 2020 16: 18
      Flight range (m)
      1800000
      Initial speed (m / s)
      4201.42
      Flight time (sec)
      605.89
  31. 0
    20 October 2020 11: 01
    Just a single shot missile launcher. And the scream ...
  32. 0
    20 October 2020 11: 12
    maybe missiles are easier?
  33. 0
    20 October 2020 13: 02
    It is clear that this is no longer a railgun from Zamvolt's iron. But I am not going to compete with Halder. Although you can answer with the words ChVS- There was no such thing, and here again !!!!!!
  34. +1
    20 October 2020 13: 05
    Halder said well, but Chernomyrdin is better - it never happened !!! And here it is again !!
  35. +1
    20 October 2020 13: 34
    it already happened
  36. 0
    20 October 2020 17: 10
    One thing is not clear to me in all this crap ... it is clear that it is basically impossible to shoot a ballistic projectile at such a distance. Accordingly, this "cannon" shoots with the same active-rocket projectile (and even two-stage) - i.e. actually a rocket. Than then this monster is better than the usual OTP with the fact that OTP at least does not require such a monstrous platform. Those. Who is this garbage in the end designed for? IMHO but it looks like a grandiose drank of the budget ... Or so much fuss to get out of the Agreement?
    1. 0
      20 October 2020 21: 19
      OTPs at least do not require such a monstrous platform.And this gun will not have any monstrous platform in size, it will be slightly larger than the T 131 gun.
  37. -1
    21 October 2020 06: 55
    Super duper gun-on-ship.
    Hmmm. Somewhere I have already heard this, about the ship shitting over the horizon and, like, soon everyone will receive an American scribe from this ship.
    Aaaaa !!!! Remembered !!! Zamvolt !!! laughing
    How this whole topic ended, I hope everyone knows.
  38. kig
    0
    21 October 2020 10: 46
    In an article by a famous American publication
    - Popular Mechanics, of course, is a well-known publication, no doubt about it. Roughly like our Youth Technique in its day. But how close to reality are the articles in these well-known publications? Our TM, for example, once wrote about underwater tankers as if they would appear in the seas and oceans within a year. And about flights to Mars and Venus ...
  39. 0
    21 October 2020 12: 35
    Popular Mechanics is like a pop magazine, like tech youth.
    something just recently began to refer to him.
    Is it getting harder to pump? Are the topics running out?
  40. +1
    22 October 2020 13: 30
    Shameful! Jules Verne's cannon shot up to the moon.
  41. 0
    22 October 2020 13: 43
    And I see one thing in this news, they sleep and see how to bomb Moscow! Here are the "bad people", do they think that after this Washington will live?
    P.S. "bad people" = "censorship"