UK bets on Tempest "fighters of the future"

London is pondering a program to create future fighters. The details of this program were presented by the country's leading aerospace companies under the leadership of BAE Systems.

Tempest or not: it's time for the British government to decide

The development of Tempest fighters is analyzed in the program in terms of potential benefits to the country. Thus, it is indicated that the implementation of an ambitious project for the development and production of fighters of the future will allow the British industry to provide 20 thousand jobs annually in the period from 2026 to 2050. In addition, the program will contribute nearly $ 32,7 billion to the British economy and will contribute to the further development of the country's military space industry.

BAE Systems plays a leading role in the creation of Tempest. In addition, the program involves the British engine manufacturer Rolls-Royce, the European missile consortium MBDA, the Italian military-industrial company Leonardo, and many smaller British and European high-tech companies. It goes without saying that the Royal Air Force of Great Britain (RAF) is also involved in the project.

The latest information on the progress of the project was provided by PwC, a private consultancy commissioned by BAE Systems. The report outlines the potential contribution of Tempest to the UK economy through 2050. It is also planned to provide more complete information about the project.

The team working on the creation of the fighter says that a full analysis of the program will allow us to evaluate three possible scenarios - the continuation of the development of Tempest, an international partnership in the field of creating a fighter, and the acquisition of a ready-made fighter of foreign design. As a result, the last word in any case will remain with the British government, which will decide whether to dwell on the idea of ​​creating Tempest fighters or to order something else.

The Tempest program was launched 2 years ago. in 2018, with the aim of developing an aerial vehicle - a sixth generation fighter. A similar French-German program Future Combat Air System (FCAS) is designed for the first demonstration flight in 2026, so the UK, if it does not want to lag behind its continental NATO partners, it is time to make its choice.

Key benefits of the program for British defense and military industrial exports

The Tempest program currently employs 1800 people in the military industry and the military. Next year their number will increase to 2500. In addition, in 2019, the list of program participants expanded with the addition of the Swedish Saab corporation and the Italian Leonardo. The volume of UK investment in the project is $ 2,6 billion. Team Tempest expects to start production by 2025 and reach operational readiness by 2035. But it all depends on the position of the government.

It is likely that the British leadership will still stop at this program. At least, representatives of the country's military-industrial circles are counting on this very much.

Tempest is an exciting and ambitious program spanning several decades that will help ensure our national security and at the same time bring significant economic benefits to the UK.

- emphasizes the director of the BAE Systems fighter program Michael Christie.

The top manager also noted that the program will allow the UK to maintain a leading position in the global combat sector. aviationwhile maintaining its sovereignty over the creation of fighters.

According to The Drive, Team Tempest uses new technologies to achieve revolutionary success in the development and operation of "fighters of the future" that could quickly respond to increasingly complex threats from a potential enemy. Each program participant is busy with his own business: Leonardo - creating the latest radar system, Rolls-Royce - developing an advanced engine, Mike Mew - looking for solutions in the field of installing the latest weapons on fighters.

Michael Christie of BAE believes that the program has the potential to become one of the most successful in the UK military-industrial sector, including in terms of export potential. After all, combat aircraft have traditionally accounted for up to 80% of arms exports from the United Kingdom.

Comments

[OgnennyiKotik]

The project is interesting, a very strong project team has gathered. A little information about the project:

[Ali]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

The project is interesting, a very strong project team has gathered.

This commandbut strong only in words and still could not make a hybrid engine for space flight, but promised even in the 80s of the last century, and tried to design it within the framework of the programs: "Hotol" and "Hermes". And nothing has changed. Wait and see! And the rest is your praises to "your Western friends" and nothing more!

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Ali

This team is strong only in words and has not yet been able to make a hybrid engine for space flights, but promised back in the 80s of the last century

Has this team been around for 35 years? Seriously?

[Hypertension]

Team Tempest expects to start production by 2025 and reach operational readiness by 2035. But it all depends on the position of the government.

Actually, the WB government can redirect funding from the tank-building sector to the aviation sector. The Britons want to give up tanks, right? By and large, they do not need them on the island, but aviation is very useful.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Hyperion

The Britons want to give up tanks, right? By and large, they do not need them on the island.

The principle of the need for tanks is a big question today. More precisely which ones are needed.

[Hypertension]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

The principle of the need for tanks is a big question today. More precisely which ones are needed.

We need the type of Armata. But tanks of the younger generation can also fight, but only with air and air defense support. Without support, they will be torn apart like a riot, which can be seen in the example of Karabakh.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Hyperion

We need the type of Armata.

What for? He's just an expensive target on the battlefield. Too big, too slow, too expensive. Any infantryman with a modern ATGM (javelin, red arrow) or kamikaze drone destroys it on the battlefield first.

[Hypertension]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Any infantryman with a temporary ATGM (javelin, red arrow) or kamikaze drone destroys it on the battlefield first.

But what about the KAZ of the Armata itself, a modification of the T-15 for air defense with a 57mm cannon and the Pantsir set up to fight massive UAV attacks?
https://vpk.name/news/204593_panciri_vooruzhili_zenitnyimi_gvozdyami.html

[lucul]

Too big, too slow, too expensive. Any infantryman with a modern ATGM (javelin, red arrow) or kamikaze drone destroys it on the battlefield first.

You are so interesting, but how long will that infantryman live in battle, even with an ATGM? )))

[yehat2]

to destroy Armata, one ATGM is definitely not enough.
And if these are not the most advanced ones, which can hammer at 1 point, then 10-15 pturov pieces may be required to disable the Armata. So, in this situation, the price of the Armata does not seem to be unjustified.

[OgnennyiKotik]

There is no need to destroy, the tank needs to stop performing its combat mission. In fact, Armata only has armor protection for the crew. A fully electronically controlled MBT / heavy tank, without powerful circular armor, is extremely vulnerable, if the gun control systems, observation and aiming systems, AZ, etc. fail, the tank turns into a pile of metal and electronics. In a tank with a classic layout, the crew can compensate for the failure of some of the devices by switching to "manual" operation. Crew protection is great, but the combat mission must be completed.

[FIR FIR]

And what is better protected and armed than a tank? BMP? APC? BRM?
A tank can be destroyed with an ATGM, UAV, helicopter ... But what can replace a tank on the battlefield?

[Sergey Sfiedu]

I am amazed at British optimism. Usually, all of their large-scale defense programs hang somewhere in the middle of the process due to lack of funds, poor management and lack of export prospects. Most likely, the same will happen with Tempest. Is it only the Russian oligarchs and ministers, the inhabitants of Londongrad, will fold for their true homeland.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Sergey Sfyedu

Usually, all of their large-scale defense programs hang somewhere in the middle of the process due to lack of funds.

Still, they hang on the moment of transition to mass production. The main thing for them is to preserve their scientific and technical potential. Mass production is not a problem for them.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Sergey Sfyedu

I am amazed at British optimism. Usually, all of their large-scale defense programs hang somewhere in the middle of the process due to lack of funds, poor management and lack of export prospects.

Nevertheless, they have the main TECHNOLOGIES, they have an army, an aviation, the Fleet is growing noticeably, all this is due to one thing --- technology

[TermNachTer]

Is the fleet expanding?)))) Hanged. The British fleet is drastically reduced and there are no prospects for improvement in the near foreseeable future.

[stalki]

Still, they hang on the moment of transition to mass production. The main thing for them is to preserve their scientific and technical potential. Mass production is not a problem for them.

So why aren't they fixing it? You contradict yourself. Massive can, but serial freeze? Is there a difference?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: stalki

So why aren't they fixing it?

Expensive and unnecessary. Having opportunities does not mean using them. It is necessary to preserve scientific and technical potential, and not to bury money in useless production.

[TermNachTer]

The taxpayers' money will be spent, and then they will buy another super duper airplane from their older brothers - mattress mats. F - 35 sixth generation))))

[Old Skeptic]

Expensive and unnecessary. Having opportunities does not mean using them. It is necessary to preserve scientific and technical potential, and not to bury money in useless production.

When Russia develops: Armata, Su-54, Coalition, etc. - this is a waste of money, it is better to give it to grandmothers.
And when the shaved giants launch some programs and are not able to show an intelligible result, they invest it in the scientific and technical potential, "this is different - you need to understand." "They will start production when they need it."

Why, it's easy to kick the Liberals.

[FIR FIR]

due to lack of funds, poor management and lack of export prospects.

I agree with you, but they built destroyers and aircraft carriers ...

[TermNachTer]

The aircraft carrier is still alone. The air group on it is mixed - pilots from the United States, Holland and British. There is also one Dutch ship in the escort group. England is unable to form one AUG. If you mean Prospect 45, then the British themselves do not rate it very highly. Few, expensive, many flaws.

[Zaurbek]

There are still difficulties with sales ... many are purchased by the F-35, and they will be in service for a long time. M Britain now - Britain 50 years ago. There is not so much political and financial influence. M political rivals in Europe - France and Germany will have their own fighter .... South Korea and Japan - their own, and the clients of these countries in terms of fighters are the same ..... and the Americans will also "honestly" compete!

[Mouse]

Interesting ... and NATO (read states) side ???

[FIR FIR]

The details of this program were presented by the country's leading aerospace companies under the leadership of BAE Systems.

Which Rheinmetall bought out last year ...

BAE Systems is leading the way in creating Tempest ...

A branch of a foreign firm will play a leading role in creating the country's national defense aviation future ...

.. three possible scenarios - the continuation of the development of Tempest, an international partnership in the field of creating a fighter, the acquisition of a ready-made fighter of foreign design.

I see not three, but one scenario - the acquisition of a foreign (American) fighter.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: FIR FIR

A branch of a foreign firm will play a leading role in creating the country's national defense aviation future ...

BAE Systems is a British firm. BAE Systems Inc is its American subsidiary.

[Griffith]

In the event of a full-scale war, these new superfood waffles are for a maximum of a couple of weeks of war. With the further continuation of the war, as always, the Thompson submachine gun and the good old AKs will switch to the Mosin rifle. Since the super duper technique is on its knee in the field, it cannot be repaired.

[rocket757]

It is normal when the country's leadership focuses on the development of its own industry! In the future, solid buns, if everything is done according to the mind.

[Alien From]

They have a lot of ambition, but most likely they will fall under the striped ones.

[Phoenix]

For two years of the existence of the program, they did not even decide to do it ourselves, with someone, or buy a ready-made one ... But the posters are so beautiful.

[123456789]

The fighter team says that a full review of the program will allow the three possible scenarios - the continuation of the development of Tempest, an international partnership in the field of creating a fighter, the acquisition of a ready-made fighter of a foreign design. As a result, the last word in any case will remain with the British government, which will decide whether to dwell on the idea of ​​creating Tempest fighters or order something else.

This is a design approach. The project in the second phase - consideration and selection of alternatives. The curator, represented by the British government, is the weak link in the project.

[demiurg]

Invest 2.5 billion and get a flying sample? Yes Yes. How much money did the penguin spend before the flying prototype appeared?
And whose Englishmen remembered about 80% in the export of aircraft weapons? When was that, under Chamberlain or under Churchill?

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: demiurg

Invest 2.5 billion and get a flying sample? Yes Yes.

This article is not written.

[voyaka uh]

In their place, it would be useful to start with a project
jet drone striker. Test technology.

[OgnennyiKotik]

About half a year ago they talked about starting the Loyal Wingman project. The truth has been silence since then.

[yehat2]

wingman is different. This is a flying suitcase attached to the plane. Stupid increase in striking power.
And the drone UAV is fundamentally different in terms of tactics of use.

[OgnennyiKotik]

A UAV is being created, it can be used for various tactics. Loyal Wingman is an application concept, the aircraft themselves can be used in different ways.

[eklmn]

The author of the article missed the main idea of ​​the aircraft construction base - around the locator and because of the locator.
From Popular Mechanics (translated by Google):
“The fighter, slated for deployment in the mid-2030s, will be equipped with radar capable of capturing as much data as Edinburgh, Scotland's internet traffic every second.
The multifunctional radio frequency system will collect and analyze radar data, allowing RAF pilots to detect threats earlier than ever.
The UK's future fighter, Tempest, is being developed with a new radar system capable of collecting 10 times more data than previous radar systems and then analyzing it on board to detect hidden enemies.
The Multifunctional Radio Frequency System (MFRFS) will also include the ability to suppress enemy radar systems, blinding them to Tempest and its weapons.
The MFRFS is, according to the Institute of Mechanical Engineers, an Active Antenna Array Radar (AESA). AESA radars are widely used in today's fourth and fifth generation fighters, replacing the traditional radar antenna on the nose with an array of hundreds of tiny radar modules.
The RAF describes MFRFS as "four times more accurate than existing radars in 1 / 10th of the package." The radar can collect as much data per second as Edinburgh's internet traffic. (The population of Edinburgh is 482). Powerful signal processors would then use this radar data to "paint" a picture of the battlefield for the pilot, highlighting friendly and enemy aircraft, ground targets, air defenses and other important features.
In addition to detection, the Tempest fighter will likely be able to use its radar for electronic attacks as well. Once the mission is for special purpose aircraft, modern fighters can often carry out their own electronic attack (EA) missions thanks to AESA radars. For example, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter can already carry out electronic attack missions with its radar, including decoys, network attacks, forward jamming, and algorithmic-packed data streams. Tempest will probably be able to handle even more challenging EA missions with an even more powerful radar system. ”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-k-fighter-jet-radar-132800360.html

[yehat2]

Quote: Sergey Sfyedu

Most likely, the same will happen with Tempest.

tempest hopes to sell to NATO. Even now, quite old planes fly in Germany or Spain.

[yehat2]

Quote: voyaka uh

In their place, it would be useful to start with a reactive drone striker project. Test technology.

they do not have adequate compact motors.
if you do, then screw. otherwise there will be a fat monster, like Sukhoi.

[Petrik66]

I remember how the Brits touted their totally awesome project with new aircraft carriers. "Vseprpalschiki" and "putinavostavku" merged in a single impulse that now the brits will overthrow such a miracle ship that we can’t even smell it. In fact, we got something indigestible, raw and incomprehensible (and what should we do with it?). It is strange, because the Britons have "Agent 007", to smithereens to smithereens all the evil in the world. It's much easier to order a couple of new suits from Tom Ford, give Bond a cooler car and .... the path is open to success. And the difference between the Russian Federation and the British is that our cartoons and booklets are not so good, if you look at cartoons accompanied by Putin's speech, in general, the level of a sophomore, only here it really flies and, even if it sometimes explodes, then all the same, for the most part enters into combat duty.