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A lone sailor and rafts from everything at hand

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The Seven Sisters Raft by William Willis


So go ahead, for the nomadic gypsy star,
To the blue icebergs of the cold seas
Where ships sparkle from frozen ice
Under the glow of the polar lights
R. Kipling. Behind the gypsy star

In the fall, on the eve of freeze-up,
Fishing boat, having gone to the fishery,
Will find a piece of his immortal glory -
Fragment of a charred wing.
K. Simonov. Old man. In memory of Amundsen


Scientists and travelers. After the release of material about the raft "Ebora" many readers of "VO" in the comments expressed in the sense that by his sailing on the raft "Kon-Tiki" Thor Heyerdahl, in fact, opened two new directions at once: one in science and the other in sports. The first is sailing on replica ships to prove that such sailings in the past were feasible, and the second - just sailing for the sake of, so to speak, sporting interest, someone on what and alone across the seas and oceans. True, the pioneers in sailing across the ocean on rafts were all the same three Americans, who on the raft "Nonparelle" from three rubber cigars crossed the Atlantic Ocean back in 1867! But their swimming remained without consequences, except that they proved that rubber does not corrode by sea water.


Raft "Kon-Tiki" Thor Heyerdahl. Page from some old album for ship modelers

But after the voyage of Heyerdahl (this is what radio and television, together with newspapers and magazines) mean, humanity was simply captured by a wave of ocean voyages on rafts. Someone, like him, decided to sail on a balsa raft, someone chose bundles of bamboo, and a raft even made of pine logs floated across the Baltic Sea and successfully completed a 250-mile journey.


Successful finish of "Kon-Tiki". The raft is loaded onto a ship to be delivered to Norway

Well, then the solo voyages began. Someone sailed on a boat, someone on a yacht, but there were also those who chose a raft as a vessel. And one of those who fully experienced the romance of distant sea voyages precisely on a raft was William Willis, who twice, at the age of sixty and seventy, set off on a voyage on a raft with the aim of crossing the great Pacific Ocean, and in the seventy-fifth year three times in his life he challenged the waves of the stormy Atlantic, where he eventually disappeared. This man lived a completely unique life, filled with work and adventure, and so interesting that one simply cannot but tell about him.

A lone sailor and rafts from everything at hand

The vicissitudes of sailing on the Kon-Tiki. A man fell overboard, but there was someone there to catch him. But what if you sail alone on a raft? Fell into the water - that's all! You will not be able to catch up with the sailing raft by swimming ...

William Willis was born in 1893 in Hamburg and spent his childhood there. Parents, immigrants from Saxony and Bohemia, had nothing to do with the sea. But this is how it happens: their son got sick with the sea. At the age of fifteen he left home and then made his first trip: in 1908 he hired a cabin boy on a sailing ship and even took part in an expedition to Cape Horn. Since 1912, he lived in the United States, traveled around the country, changed many professions: he had to work as a loader and a lumberjack, work as a trackman and even as a mining engineer. He sailed on the Great Lakes and was engaged in fishing, drawing cartoons for newspapers and writing poetry. He also happened to be a sailor on a tanker, chop wood in Canada, work in a mine in South America. In Alaska, he was a hunter, in the States - a metal worker and a dockworker. By the way, he did not just write poetry, he even managed to publish several poetry collections. Even as a paramedic, and so he managed to work, which means that at least somehow he knew medicine ... Everyone who knew Willis noted that he was distinguished by simply great diligence, perseverance in achieving his goal, and he was also courageous and modest human. However, no one ever doubted his courage even without these testimonies, because a person who does not possess this quality would hardly dare to embark on a raft across the ocean alone!


The raft by William Willis

This or that event affects different people in different ways. So the trip of Thor Heyerdahl, made by him in 1947 on the Kon-Tiki balsa raft with a crew of six, prompted Willis to go on the same one to the islands of the Central Pacific Ocean, but only this time alone! He convinced his friends and family that age is not a hindrance in this matter; he built a raft from thick logs of the lightest tropical tree - balsa (that is, in financial terms, he did not live in poverty, since this wood, and even in such volumes, is not a cheap thing! ) and went out on his brainchild to the Pacific Ocean.

The raft was named "Seven Sisters", measured 10 × 6 meters and was actually assembled from seven huge balsa shafts, 0,75 meters in diameter each. They were connected to each other with a 40-mm strong Manila cable, and for greater reliability they were also connected by three mangrove trunks-crossbars, on top of which was laid a flooring of smaller balsa logs, “only” half a meter in diameter, also connected by a cable between themselves. On top of this planking was a deck of bamboo trunks split lengthwise. The bulwark was also made up of four balsa barrels.


A drawing describing the manufacture of a model of Willis's raft from the author's book "For those who love tinkering" (M., Enlightenment, 1990). Since then in the USSR it was bad with balsa, it was proposed to cut out blanks for raft logs from thick pine bark, since pine trees with such bark grow here a lot everywhere

Willis' voyage began on June 24, 1954 and lasted 115 days. It was complex, filled with dangers. It was difficult to control the raft alone, besides, during the voyage, the navigator had a hernia, and in order to correct it, Willis had to pull himself by the legs, tying them with a rope, to the mast! True, along with the brave traveler, there were animals on the raft: Mika's cat and Ekki the parrot. The raft covered a distance of 6700 nautical miles during its voyage. And it is not surprising that the press called this voyage the most unparalleled voyage of the XNUMXth century, and Willis the most courageous among all other solo sailors. Well, the inhabitants of the islands of American Samoa, where he eventually got, gave him the honorary nickname of the Captain of the Great Seas, and his raft was placed in front of the government building on the island of Pago Pago for all to see.


Today the model of the Kon-Tiki raft is produced by the Italian company Mantua, and it is exotic! Scale 1:18, that is, the model as a result turns out to be quite large, and it is not too difficult to work on it

Apparently, Willis's passion for such voyages has eaten into his blood, because in 1963-1964, on a trimaran raft, out of three metal pontoons filled with polyurethane, he again crossed the Pacific Ocean alone: ​​from Callao to Apia (Western Samoa) in 1963 , and from Apia to Tully (in northeastern Australia) in 1964. He then described all his voyages in books that were translated into many languages ​​of the world, including Russian. Then he three times, in 1966, 1967 and 1968, undertook a solo voyage across the Atlantic Ocean no longer on a raft, but on a boat under sail. The last of these three voyages was his last. The brave sailor went missing, leaving only a damaged boat, his passport, books and diary entries. This is how this venerable old man ended his life, whose courage was beyond doubt.


And she turns out to be very beautiful in the end!

Well, after him there were many more people who built rafts from a variety of materials and sailed on them in the most different seas and oceans.

It is interesting that, using a variety of materials for the construction of ocean rafts, none of their creators thought of using them for advertising, as well as for propaganda purposes. To make a raft from the bodies of decommissioned medium-range combat missiles and go on it along a route that runs near naval bases, and at the same time advocate for general disarmament? .. Give people leaflets, booklets, give interviews to journalists, urge rockets, take care of the poor? .. People have always liked Don Quixote, but Don Quixote on a raft is something special and therefore interesting, like anything unusual. Then it will be possible to write a book about this voyage and make a lot of money.

Pipes for pipelines laid on the seabed are also excellent material for such rafts. We take scraps, order three to five cones "at the expense of the company" for the "bow", and "circles" for the stern, put the manufacturer's logo on the pipes and sail ourselves across the ocean, determining the position using the GPS-navigator provided ... eating the products of the company ... and also carrying out daily TV shows from our raft with advertisements for swimwear, sunscreen and fishing gear. This kind of mainstream is welcomed by the average man in every possible way, but the fact that this is an excellent advertisement is also obvious.


Mantua set

By the way, it is with the sets of rafts that you can start your own ship modeling business. It is not difficult to make logs on the machine today, and for a start, you can release a series of prefabricated models of rafts, even from paper. Special episode for schoolchildren "Get away from me!" with the simplest homemade products for delivery to school at the first request of the teacher. Especially teachers sin this in elementary grades, well, let the children make rafts for them. Bamboo - shashlik sticks. Boards - stirring sticks for coffee. Then threads, instructions, a box ... Put it all together and sell! And also an interesting story about this raft for the general development of the child is attached to each model! Common name: Traveler Rafts.


But such rafts from bottles are not at all difficult to make at the stations of "Young Tourists" and sail on them along the local rivers and lakes. Sponsored by local breweries !!!

In ancient times, rafts were made from leather wineskins, clay jugs (turned upside down!) And even hollow pumpkins. And if so, why not go somewhere on a raft of ... soccer balls? On a raft made of plastic containers for fuel or chemically active substances from the company ... And even plastic bottles or duralumin kegs from under the company's beer ... such and such? There is no need to repeat sailing on balsa rafts today. Here are the missile bodies - that's it!
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  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 October 2020 06: 12
    14
    Thanks Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    "We sing a song to the madness of the brave" !!!
    The topic by the way is worthy of continuation. Best regards, Vlad!
    Ps Vyacheslav, excuse me for the provocative question, but would you dare to "wave to the blue edge of the ocean"? Let them not conquer the seas, but at least along the Volga? Cat Basya aboard and "raise the anchor" ...
    Best regards, thanks again and good day everyone !!!
    1. kalibr
      23 October 2020 07: 04
      +5
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      Cat Basya aboard and "raise the anchor" ...

      This is not a provocative question, but a very interesting one. And the answer is unambiguous: no, especially with a cat, especially with Basya, an animal that is completely interior. And I try to avoid anything that ... provokes a bony one with a scythe. She has already taken too many of my classmates, classmates and fellow graduates and work. And then ... I don't like the Volga. I was on it in Saratov, Volgograd, Nizhny, Ulyanovsk, for three years I lived on it in Samara ... sailed along it from Samara to Ulyanovsk. He was not deceived anywhere and by anything!
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 23 October 2020 13: 37
        +5
        "Didn't stick anywhere and nothing" V.O, are you especially land-based or just don't like the Volga?
        1. kalibr
          23 October 2020 15: 14
          +2
          No, I really love the sea. I sailed on a boat along the Crimea many times. From Feodosia to Yalta and back. From Gurzuf to Yalta ... I sailed on a large tourist catamaran along the coast of Spain, in Croatia on a semi-submarine along the coast of the island of Krk (this voyage was not impressive).
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 23 October 2020 18: 04
            +5
            a cruise would suit you. we live once, and a week on a good liner is worth it good and then a week on the shore
      2. vladcub
        vladcub 23 October 2020 14: 04
        +4
        V. N. says that he is not attracted by the Volga, but he thinks himself.
        The parasite is so and so, but it is "weak" to take the cat forward and with a song For example: "Glorious sea, sacred Baikal" or: "From the island to the rod." Depending on where to travel
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 23 October 2020 15: 32
          +6
          The cat is unlikely to like the trip to Baikal on its own.
          And the Mongolian horse to prove Batu's invasion may not be found.

          Then, the photo of Captain Vrungel on horseback was not well received.
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 October 2020 20: 28
            +4
            Quote: Korsar4
            The cat is unlikely to like the trip to Baikal on its own.
            And the Mongolian horse to prove Batu's invasion may not be found.

            Then, the photo of Captain Vrungel on horseback was not well received.

            Did the horse react negatively to the steering wheel tied to the tail?
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 23 October 2020 20: 39
              +6
              "In a naval uniform he pranced on a horse ... The photo is really not quite decent for a sailor" (c).
              1. bubalik
                bubalik 23 October 2020 20: 44
                +6
                Admiral, you are defeated. No matter how sad
                Good luck turned away from you today;
                Your heart is dark and piercingly empty:
                Everything is as it is - no offense, no embellishment ...
                You would have to replay - just aim not aim,
                You can't change the icons on the dice! (C)
                1. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 23 October 2020 21: 02
                  +4
                  “And in the morning he goes to read his prayers
                  To the Catholic Church of Albigensian Toulouse "(c).
      3. gsev
        gsev 23 October 2020 15: 08
        +6
        Quote: kalibr
        I don't like the Volga. Was on it in

        And I was fascinated by the Volga during the campaign from the river. Dubna on the river. The old woman in Godunov's estates! Many people admire the fishing in the avalanches near Astrakhan. Probably boring on a boat, but unforgettable on the oars and on the shore!
    2. BAI
      BAI 23 October 2020 11: 05
      +5
      and so - at least along the Volga?

      See "KP". 2 journalists of the newspaper for 2 seasons on a motorboat went from the source of the Volga to Astrakhan. In the first season, there was the 3rd crew member - the minor son of one of the journalists. The series of articles was titled "Down Mother .."
      By the way, these same correspondents, but already together on electric trains (namely electric trains (one piece, where they were not - on hitchhiking)), drove from Moscow to Vladivostok. About a month.
      1. kalibr
        23 October 2020 15: 16
        +2
        I never liked the ride, especially after the rural epic from 1977 to 1980. I need a bath, a good table, three kinds of wine and champagne for July 20th.
        1. Aag
          Aag 29 October 2020 16: 55
          0
          Quote: kalibr
          I never liked the ride, especially after the rural epic from 1977 to 1980. I need a bath, a good table, three kinds of wine and champagne for July 20th.

          Thank you for the article! I breathed my youth. However, I dare to note that it is much more pleasant to be sybarite after a good shake-up: rafting, hunting, serious fishing, spearfishing, etc., and so on ... Now, who needs that ... )))
          I wanted to mention Alain Bombar, but they were ahead of me, I have already written below. I will remember in my youth his book ("Overboard of my own free will") made a strong impression ... , or an association with the company "Zodiac", on whose boat he made his landmark crossing over the Atlantic ...). The French are strong in this regard. Starting with Jacques Yves, ours, Cousteau ...
          Compatriots are not lagging behind, IMHO. Fedor Konyukhov is heard, although, of course, having become a "media personality", he has increased his authority in some circles (which does not negate his courage and skills, even with the most powerful sponsorship). And how do you like Evgeny Gvozdev ?! Two single round the world. Build a yacht on the balcony! Such people motivate! Maybe it makes sense to open a separate cycle on this topic? hi
  2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 October 2020 06: 22
    11

    Seven Sisters

    Kon-Tiki
    Looked at William Ulysses' balsa raft images more structurally perfect than the Kon-Tiki Thor Heyerdahl!
    1. BAI
      BAI 23 October 2020 11: 08
      +7
      balsa raft of William Ulysses is constructively perfect than the Kon-Tiki of Thor Heyerdahl!

      Kon-Tiki is a replica of the "Stone Age" Indian rafts. The design is based on the design of rafts from Lake Titicaca that are still used today, of course, a modern raft, sharpened for a long journey, more perfect than an Indian.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 October 2020 11: 11
        +3
        Greetings! I don't argue.
        I raised the problem only because of the difficulty in managing the rigging for one person!
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 23 October 2020 06: 37
    +7
    Well, everyone has probably heard about Tour Heerdahl, but about whom Vyacheslav Olegovich spoke about today ...
    Thank you! Although the subject matter is far from military, it is still interesting to read.
    1. Blacksmith 55
      Blacksmith 55 23 October 2020 09: 15
      +5
      The leader, I agree with you, has rarely heard of this.
      The Komsomol member regularly published reports about Heerdahl's travels, especially when our compatriot Senkevich was with him.
      We waited impatiently for the next essay, discussed at work.
      Thanks to the author for an interesting topic.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 23 October 2020 13: 51
        +4
        I remember talking on TV in the "Travel Club". Then some company agreed with Heerdahl that all video reports would be the property of the company for a year, but Sinkevich ruined them: he sent the photos to the editorial office. I was still a kid and we admired the resourcefulness of the Russian: I take pictures myself and send them to friends, but what are they doing?
    2. Captain45
      Captain45 23 October 2020 10: 34
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Well, everyone has probably heard about Tour Heerdahl, but about whom Vyacheslav Olegovich spoke about today ...

      Well, it probably depends on what you read. There used to be such a geographical almanac "Globus", but in the collection for 1978 there was a large article about solo voyages, which also told about Willis's voyages. By the way, on the way to Pago Pago, a wave washed away the Mecca cat from the raft and Willis, tied with a rope, jumped from the raft, the cat grabbed his head and so he pulled her out of the water.
  4. Korsar4
    Korsar4 23 October 2020 06: 47
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    Perhaps people like Willis are the best motivators. How much a person can. It is necessary to want.

    And the epigraph to all travel is universal. And also many of us from childhood:

    “Fight and seek.
    Find and not give up. "
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 23 October 2020 17: 38
      +2
      Kaverin "Two Captains"?
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 23 October 2020 19: 20
        +4
        Originally for me from there. But it was before and in English.

        And direct associations with Nansen.
        1. Kwas
          Kwas 24 October 2020 17: 47
          +2
          Captain Scott on his way to the South Pole and frozen in Antarctica. By the way, because of the bad organization of the expedition.
          1. vladcub
            vladcub 24 October 2020 19: 07
            +1
            I was spinning a little, which resembles an epitaph, but "Two Captains" is so memorable that EVERYTHING closes
      2. Doctor Evil
        Doctor Evil 24 October 2020 17: 57
        +2
        Quote: vladcub
        Kaverin "Two Captains"?

        Alfred Tennyson "Ulysses". Written back in the nineteenth century. The depth of perception is highly dependent on the translation. I remember that in my youth I recited to girls from memory, they squeaked with delight.
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 24 October 2020 18: 19
          +3
          I haven't read it yet. In the deferred plan it appears.
        2. vladcub
          vladcub 24 October 2020 19: 15
          +1
          I didn't know at all. More precisely, I heard, but did not read. As a teenager, I read other books: Gaidar, Furmanov, Sobolev, Stanyukovich, Ostrovsky (Nikolai), and Tenisson somehow from the wrong company
          1. Doctor Evil
            Doctor Evil 24 October 2020 20: 36
            +1
            Quote: vladcub
            I didn't know at all. More precisely, I heard, but did not read. As a teenager, I read other books: Gaidar, Furmanov, Sobolev, Stanyukovich, Ostrovsky (Nikolai), and Tenisson somehow from the wrong company

            I agree. He caught my eye as an epigraph to the novel by Alistair McLean "Cruiser Ulysses". This is where the stars met. That was the bomb!
  5. igordok
    igordok 23 October 2020 06: 51
    +8
    How relevant are the slanting sails on the "Seven Sisters" raft by William Willis? I did not notice the similarity of the keel.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 October 2020 07: 22
      11
      Quote: igordok
      How relevant are the slanting sails on the "Seven Sisters" raft by William Willis? I did not notice the similarity of the keel.

      Greetings Igor!
      On such rafts, a centerboard is used (boards lowered vertically into the water). They create an imaginary keel and allow the voices to walk quite steeply.
      hi
      1. igordok
        igordok 23 October 2020 09: 16
        +4
        Thanks for the answer. I saw the centerboards on the model.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 October 2020 09: 25
          +7
          This is all well described by Thor Heyerdahl and Yuri Senkevich about the expeditions to Kon-Tiki and Ra I and II.
  6. tlauicol
    tlauicol 23 October 2020 06: 52
    +8
    and where Willis sailed from, they forgot to write.
    In the old issue of "KiYa" there was a story about a dude who made a yacht out of a barrel, glued it with something there and .. could not really sail away even. Too volatile. I tried to solve the problem, but it turned out that synthetic resin secreted some kind of muck and he would have suffocated in the sea. In short: he spat, freaked out and threw a torch at her to burn it. And it burned out, but first exploded laughing
  7. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 23 October 2020 06: 58
    16
    "Fyodor Konyukhov's dog huddles under the bed and whines in horror when the owner calls her for a walk."
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 23 October 2020 07: 11
      +6
      This is a separate question - about loved ones and surrounding travelers,
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 23 October 2020 07: 15
        +8
        "Where are you, Odysseus?
        From his wife, from children ...
        - You would go home, Penelope! "(C)
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 23 October 2020 07: 18
          +8
          “- I saw this Italy on the map: boots with boots” (c).
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 23 October 2020 07: 23
            +8
            "I don't know where I am,
            what's in front of me. Some dirty island
            bushes, buildings, grunting pigs,
            overgrown garden, some kind of queen,
            grass and stones ... Dear Telemac,
            all the islands are alike,
            when you wander for so long, and the brain
            already getting lost counting the waves
            the eye clogged with the horizon cries
            and watery meat obscures hearing. "(c)
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 23 October 2020 07: 35
              +6
              “Even here, Postumus, there are no rules” (c).
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 23 October 2020 07: 41
                +8
                "All'wright, Christopher Bonifatievich!" (FROM)
                1. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 23 October 2020 07: 44
                  +9
                  “Some are killed by bullets, others are killed by old age,
                  Yo-ho-ho, all the same overboard ”(c).
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 23 October 2020 19: 10
                    +3
                    "When we return to Portland,
                    I swear, I myself will climb the chopping block! "(C)
                    1. Korsar4
                      Korsar4 23 October 2020 19: 19
                      +4
                      "Pirate, forget about your own side" (c).
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 October 2020 19: 22
                        +3
                        "Rybachiy melted in the distant fog,
                        Our dear land "(C)
                      2. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 23 October 2020 19: 28
                        +4
                        “You will see - in the distant blue sea
                        The brigantine raises the sails ”(c).
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 October 2020 19: 35
                        +4
                        "Ah, the white ship!
                        Beep alarming bass "(C)
                      4. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 23 October 2020 20: 21
                        +3
                        "On the river navigation
                        Ice drift on the river ”.
                      5. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 October 2020 20: 38
                        +4
                        "Music plays on the ship,
                        And I stand alone on the shore "(C)
                      6. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 23 October 2020 20: 41
                        +3
                        "Sea, slow waters -
                        Not like the rails in two rows ”(c).
  • Catfish
    Catfish 23 October 2020 07: 01
    15
    “The victims of the legendary shipwrecks who died prematurely, I know: it was not the sea that killed you, it was not hunger that killed you, it was not thirst that killed you! Swaying on the waves to the plaintive cries of seagulls, you died of fear "
    This was said by a man named Alain Bombard, a French physician, biologist and traveler.

    In 1952, as a scientific experience and an action to promote his methods of survival for shipwrecked on the high seas, he crossed the Atlantic Ocean from the Canary Islands to the island of Barbados alone in a rubber boat, covering 2375 nautical miles (4400 kilometers) in 65 days ( from October 19 to December 22). On the way, he ate caught fish and plankton. At the time of the end of the experiment, he significantly undermined his health. Bombar lost 25 kg, the level of erythrocytes and hemoglobin bordering on fatal, he was diagnosed with a serious visual impairment, his toenails fell out, all his skin was covered with a rash and small acne. In general, his body was dehydrated and extremely depleted, but he reached the shore. And he proved his words right!

    The very "Zodiac" on which he performed his feat, I am not afraid of this word.


    To our Vyacheslav, Olegovich, our everlasting thanks for a good article. smile drinks
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 23 October 2020 07: 16
      +9
      From "Denis's stories" by Dragunsky: "What if I don't catch one or the other fish somewhere and lose a little more weight?"

      A very indicator of the popularity of the event.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 23 October 2020 08: 30
        +7
        "Catch a fish, big and small ..." (c)

        So life will pass ... request
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 October 2020 09: 39
          +5
          Quote: Sea Cat
          "Catch a fish, big and small ..." (c)

          So life will pass ... request

          The tail is being sewn for the third time this winter!
          These "dogs" !!!
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 23 October 2020 19: 11
            +5
            "The owl has found its tail!" (FROM)
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 October 2020 20: 17
              +4
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              "The owl has found its tail!" (FROM)

              The donkey lost it on the eve of his birthday, as far as I remember !!! drinks
              Drunkenness fight !!! (c)
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 23 October 2020 20: 19
                +6
                Drunkenness fight !!!
                And the girls !!!
        2. Korsar4
          Korsar4 23 October 2020 12: 38
          +7
          “I told him:“ Buy yourself boots ”. And he bought sneakers ”(c).
    2. Alex013
      Alex013 23 October 2020 08: 30
      +5
      Interesting comment! By the way, I read a book by Stephen Callahan, who in 1982 crossed the Anlantika in 76 days after his yacht wrecked off the Canary Islands. It's called Drifting: Seventy-Six Days Captive by the Sea.
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      2. Catfish
        Catfish 23 October 2020 08: 32
        +5
        So maybe he just used the experience of Bambar?
        1. Alex013
          Alex013 23 October 2020 16: 59
          +5
          Everything is possible! By the way, one can recall the drift of our 36th barge. Ziganshin and comrades. Like Vladimir Semenovich - "You are a severe Okhotsk climate ..."
          1. vladcub
            vladcub 27 October 2020 18: 35
            +1
            On this occasion, there was a song on the dance floors: "Ziganshin ate a boot." I didn't hear her, but a man older than me told me that there was such a song in Moscow
        2. Alex013
          Alex013 23 October 2020 17: 00
          +2
          Although in the book Stephen did not say anything about the experience of Alain Bombard.
    3. bubalik
      bubalik 23 October 2020 11: 13
      12
      Sea Cat (Constantine) Today, 08: 01

      Welcome hi ,,, so he was preparing, especially the doctor. But the case is more interesting ,,,
      November 23, 1942 German submarine U-172
      sinks the Ben Lomond ship

      Of the 55 crew members, 11 sailors managed to escape. Pan Lian was one of them.
      The man ended up in the Atlantic Ocean on a life raft with minimal supplies. When they ended, the Chinese was not at a loss: he made a fishing line, hooks, from a tin can - a knife for cutting fish. "Robinson" pulled up an awning and collected rainwater, caught seaweed, which saved him from scurvy.

      The Chinese did not know how to swim and therefore tied himself to the fragile boat. Ships sailed by the man in distress more than once: one did not take him on board because he was Chinese. The American Navy was prevented from rescuing a man by a roaring storm. So he spent alone on a raft in the ocean 133 day, and his record has not yet been broken. In April 1943, Pan realized that he was not far from the coastal zone: the water changed color, many birds appeared. He was rescued by Brazilian fishermen. The survivor moved independently and lost only 9 kg during his forced journey. His experience was used in survival instructions for the British Navy.

      PS U-172 was sunk on 13 December 1943 by depth charges and homing acoustic torpedoes from the air group of the escort aircraft carrier USS Bogue and destroyers USS George E. Badger, USS Clemson, USS Osmond Ingram and USS Du Pont after a 27-hour battle and pursuit west of Canary Islands, 13 crew members were killed, 46 were rescued.

      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 23 October 2020 13: 03
        +7
        , so he was preparing, especially the doctor. But the case is more interesting ,,,
        November 23, 1942 German submarine U-172

        Sergey, if you saddled your favorite horse, then where is the article? drinks I remember your other article - where the German submariners with U-852 shot the crew of the dying ship, and the "good doctor" Weispening took part in this act of killing, who took on the role of a machine gunner ... negative
        https://topwar.ru/162443-smert-na-jekvatore.html
        Weispfening's machine gun jammed after firing just a few rounds. <......> The Doctor was no longer involved in the attempt to destroy the rafts, although he remained on the bridge. (quote from an article by the highly respected Bubalik). drinks
        1. bubalik
          bubalik 23 October 2020 13: 23
          +9
          hi as you, Nikolay, recently wrote, no inspiration,, crying and to be honest there is no time sad
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku 23 October 2020 13: 58
            +4
            as you, Nikolay, recently wrote, there is no inspiration ,,

            exactly.... recourse and how much was started ...
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 23 October 2020 15: 34
              +6
              This is because there is no deadline.

              Or the advance has not been received and has not been spent on drink.
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 23 October 2020 15: 52
                +5
                This is because there is no deadline.

                Yes, getting a risk on the hat is the best motivation for work. laughing
                1. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 23 October 2020 16: 18
                  +7
                  “There was no such firm instruction, sir” (c).
                  1. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 23 October 2020 16: 25
                    +8
                    “There was no such firm instruction, sir” (c).

                    Yeah, but already some kind of offended creation put a minus on each of my comments on this forum thread ... what
                    1. Korsar4
                      Korsar4 23 October 2020 19: 22
                      +6
                      This is not a cause for concern.

                      I haven't found a way to convert points yet.

                      “I will definitely be a general,
                      If I survive the corporal "(c).
              2. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 23 October 2020 19: 42
                +6
                Or the advance has not been received and has not been spent on drink.
                In this sense, there is a wonderful modern TV series "Poor People". I really like.
                1. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 23 October 2020 20: 28
                  +4
                  As far as I know, this is the method of A. N. Tolstoy.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 23 October 2020 21: 07
                    +5
                    Not familiar with this technique in adolescence, I wrote all my works on "Russian literature" at the end of the quarter. Wholesale.
                    1. Korsar4
                      Korsar4 23 October 2020 21: 10
                      +4
                      I had experience - I borrowed it from Gogol. I wrote two lines. Further (This ends the manuscript).

                      Not rated - 2/2.

                      And I would learn to express essays - so much would be laid out.
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 October 2020 21: 22
                        +3
                        Hmm. How many of us have been ruined (brought up) by the Soviet high school ...
                      2. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 23 October 2020 21: 42
                        +3
                        What you do is necessary to love. And everything will work out.
                        A lot was missed at school. Further - it was more interesting.

                        And there is only one education - self-education.
          2. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 23 October 2020 19: 14
            +7
            and how much was started ...
            It was not worth drinking, and the mojito was superfluous! wassat
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 23 October 2020 19: 26
              +5
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              and the mojito was superfluous!

              * There is a glass in front of me, it will not stand for long!
              He knows himself that he will soon follow the path!
              And there he will tell the rest of his relatives, that he is not the last of them, other brothers will come! * wink
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 23 October 2020 19: 33
                +6
                "Let's drink from grief, where is the mug?
                The heart will become more cheerful! "(C)
                However, you have to work tomorrow, and I got rid of it! tongue
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 23 October 2020 19: 48
                  +4
                  Nope! Weekend! laughing But I don't want to drink, I like my current state!

                  Sober!
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 23 October 2020 20: 01
                    +4
                    Fell in love! Definitely! I always stop drinking when I fall in love. laughing
                  2. bubalik
                    bubalik 23 October 2020 20: 55
                    +5
                    “Grandfather,” the grandchildren ask, “have you had any horrible incidents?
                    The old pirate pondered, lit his pipe.
                    - Yes, - he finally said, - I remember one terrible case ... This is when our rum almost ran out! lol
                    1. Phil77
                      Phil77 23 October 2020 21: 00
                      +6
                      Quote: bubalik
                      we almost ran out of rum!

            2. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 26 October 2020 11: 01
              +2
              It was not worth drinking, and the mojito was superfluous!

              As far as my memory serves me, you and I drank only vodka, and nothing more ... drinks Mojito - was not!
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 26 October 2020 16: 07
                +2
                This is a saying from a past life. I thought I was telling ...
                1. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 26 October 2020 16: 15
                  +2
                  This is a saying from a past life. I thought I was telling ...

                  Where is the map, Billy? ... wink
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 26 October 2020 16: 22
                    +3
                    Someday I will write my "Anna Karenina
                    1. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 26 October 2020 16: 29
                      +3
                      Someday I will write my "Anna Karenina

                      Can I guess you in Vronsky performed by Sean Bean? wink by the way .. similar ... winked
                    2. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 26 October 2020 16: 41
                      +3
                      Only Russell Crowe, in Les Miserables !!!
                    3. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 26 October 2020 16: 46
                      +3
                      Only Russell Crowe, in Les Miserables !!!

                      Identical option, he also sings there! laughing although I like Sean Bean better.
                    4. Lexus
                      Lexus 26 October 2020 18: 09
                      +2
                      Ahaha. Burned! Anton - Boromir! "You can't just take and ..." laughing

                    5. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 26 October 2020 18: 19
                      +2
                      Ahaha. Burned! Anton - Boromir! "You can't just take and ..."

                      yes, and here he is even in the captain's uniform! drinks apparently, a photo from three years ago, when his rating on VO was with four stars ... wink

                      yes poured, in fact! drinks
                    6. Lexus
                      Lexus 26 October 2020 18: 27
                      +1
                      Fittest. laughing
                      I love to make fun of actors who play both goodies and bad ones. Boromir, by the way, wanted to save Minas Tirith, if that.
                    7. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 26 October 2020 18: 44
                      +3
                      Morgan Friedman is your everything! laughing
                    8. Lexus
                      Lexus 26 October 2020 18: 47
                      +2
                      Friedman is a "Russian alligator" with a shortened "tail". "Tanned" is called Freeman. wink
                    9. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 26 October 2020 19: 13
                      +2
                      OK. You're right. This one is Freeman. Friedman is another person I respect.
                    10. Lexus
                      Lexus 26 October 2020 19: 18
                      +1
                      Stop! Cut! Danke, Sean. fellow
                    11. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 26 October 2020 20: 16
                      +2
                      Here you are, an infection! good A worthy opponent in the role is a rarity. hi
                    12. Lexus
                      Lexus 26 October 2020 20: 34
                      +1
                      What kind of rival, underclothes snake? Fellow! And nothing will separate us now. Except maybe Administrator's Maces. And then not for long winked

        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 26 October 2020 18: 43
          +3
          apparently, a photo from three years ago, when his rating on VO was with four stars ...
          Oh oh oh!!! Where can we, sire miserables, with a stable buffoonish career, with epaulettes with fallen angels, face off! Sand quarry generals, damn it !!! laughing
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 26 October 2020 18: 38
        +3
        You yourself, Lech, are Duremar, uh, in the sense of Boromir tongue
      3. Lexus
        Lexus 26 October 2020 18: 42
        +1
        Are you horny, Odysseus? Or are you already hatching a Pazzi and a Stark-style conspiracy? drinks
      4. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 26 October 2020 19: 09
        +3
        Do not be so worried, Your Eminence! Only a light fleur of the Albigensian heresy! We do not understand something, the executioner is a useful creature! Do not be so kind as to worry and disturb the Dominican brothers about such an insignificant event as the performance of our wandering troupe in the town of Mykkeshaise.
      5. Lexus
        Lexus 26 October 2020 19: 12
        +1
        That's the same ... tongue
      6. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 26 October 2020 19: 54
        +2
        "However, I note, brethren, was not Brother Lexus tired of serving the Lord, did he take upon him the sin of vanity?"
      7. Lexus
        Lexus 26 October 2020 20: 19
        +2
        In no way ... Vanity and fornication have different "sources of funding."
      8. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 26 October 2020 20: 32
        +2
        "Separately, brothers, we note that brother Alexus, who sinned as a vanity, himself confessed to the sins of adultery and acquisitiveness."
      9. Lexus
        Lexus 26 October 2020 20: 41
        0
        "... and repented." Oha! We scattered. laughing
        "You will get a hole from a donut, not Sharapov! He has been bye-bye for a long time." (FROM) tongue
      10. Lexus
        Lexus 26 October 2020 20: 47
        +3
        - Are you tormented by erotic dreams?
        - Excuse me, why are they immediately "tortured"? repeat
      11. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 26 October 2020 20: 58
        +2
        Torment or not, this is my own business. You may have noticed that in my buffoonery, I never went beyond this line.
        And you, sometimes, sort out. Well, honestly.
      12. Lexus
        Lexus 26 October 2020 21: 38
        +2
        I honestly didn't even understand what you mean now. But I know what it's called.
        All wits are incredibly sensitive to jokes in their own address.
        I also understand that I have not the slightest desire to hurt my neighbor.
        If something comes out ambiguously, then definitely without malice. Sorry!
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 27 October 2020 08: 54
    +1
    Vanity and fornication

    Vanity and fornication all twist? lol
    and hatching a Stark-style conspiracy?

  • Lexus
    Lexus 27 October 2020 12: 13
    +1
    I have absolutely nothing to do with it. He himself is. Koschey. Because yesterday, when discussing eggs, I was immediately worried. But we will not give this secret to anyone. So everything will be fine! wink

  • Icelord
    Icelord 27 October 2020 16: 40
    +1
    By the way, I really like Sean Bean's movie cash, it was transferred into Russian with big money or easy money. I looked fifty times and learned it by heart. By the way, he is half killed there, that is, he played two brothers, one that the main character killed, but the second is not, and it looks like those who killed Sean's floor will now have a bad time))), because the first brother is a smart cold-blooded sadist, and the second is a simple maniac scumbag. If you haven't watched it, I recommend it, you won't regret it
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 27 October 2020 16: 41
    +2
    By the way, Sean Bean has a brutal movie cache like it

    I haven't watched this film. But the character in Equilibrium is captivating. drinks
  • Icelord
    Icelord 27 October 2020 16: 47
    +1
    I added a comment there, and you must watch the film, played a lot. Film by the way old 2010
  • vladcub
    vladcub 27 October 2020 18: 50
    +1
    Comrades, good evening. Anyone familiar with Rutricker? I was recommended as a site with half-pirated movies and books.
    You need to connect with VPN. I could not. But I'm WEAK here
  • Lexus
    Lexus 26 October 2020 19: 26
    0
    Isn't that from The Executioner's Notes for an hour? I have not read the work, therefore I do not understand from which side you are approaching me. Give it a shot! am laughing
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 26 October 2020 19: 45
    +2
    tongue From the underbelly, like any dog!
  • Lexus
    Lexus 26 October 2020 20: 14
    0
    Watch out, Brother Antony! The soft underbelly is under the protection of UNEPICCO. Beware of Suddenly Compelling Circumstances! lol
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 26 October 2020 20: 22
    +2
    My compliments, Brother Alexus! I note, however, that the novices are first trained to clench the testicles of the tortured in a fist, and only then ask the name and position.
  • Lexus
    Lexus 26 October 2020 21: 10
    0
    "Sisters" have already tried. They didn't suit their taste.wink


    Fragments taken from "Agent Johnny English: Reboot." (2011)
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 26 October 2020 20: 50
    +2
    I read "The Executioner's Notes".
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 26 October 2020 21: 43
    +2
    Everything is fine. Let's go. It was done.
  • Lexus
    Lexus 26 October 2020 21: 47
    +2
    "They say we are byaki-beki ..." (C) smile
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 26 October 2020 22: 07
    +2
    Uh-huh. They say that in Ryazan - mushrooms with eyes, and in St. Petersburg - chickens are milked, and in Moscow, 30 years ago, "bird's milk" could be "obtained" (by pull), a rare muck, I tried it, but they say I was late with a taste sensation, for a couple of years ... Now in 81, it was a thing !! And out of line !!! And not on coupons !!!!
    Mdaaa! They say ... And in '82, in the queue for ordinary milk, my legs froze ...
  • Lexus
    Lexus 26 October 2020 22: 23
    +2
    in Ryazan - mushrooms with eyes

    They are eaten - they look.

    Everything will be fine! wink
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 26 October 2020 22: 32
    +2
    "It's a pity, at this wonderful time,
    Neither me nor you will have to live "(C)
  • Lexus
    Lexus 26 October 2020 22: 49
    +1
    "We started for health, finished for peace." (FROM)
  • Phil77
    Phil77 23 October 2020 18: 43
    +7
    Quote: bubalik
    ,, no inspiration ,,

    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 23 October 2020 19: 19
      +5
      Denis Matsoev in search of a new sound of "dog waltz"
  • Phil77
    Phil77 23 October 2020 18: 45
    +4
    Quote: bubalik
    and to be honest there is no time

  • Aag
    Aag 29 October 2020 17: 50
    +1
    Quote: bubalik
    Sea Cat (Constantine) Today, 08: 01

    Welcome hi ,,, so he was preparing, especially the doctor. But the case is more interesting ,,,
    November 23, 1942 German submarine U-172
    sinks the Ben Lomond ship

    Of the 55 crew members, 11 sailors managed to escape. Pan Lian was one of them.
    The man ended up in the Atlantic Ocean on a life raft with minimal supplies. When they ended, the Chinese was not at a loss: he made a fishing line, hooks, from a tin can - a knife for cutting fish. "Robinson" pulled up an awning and collected rainwater, caught seaweed, which saved him from scurvy.

    The Chinese did not know how to swim and therefore tied himself to the fragile boat. Ships sailed by the man in distress more than once: one did not take him on board because he was Chinese. The American Navy was prevented from rescuing a man by a roaring storm. So he spent alone on a raft in the ocean 133 day, and his record has not yet been broken. In April 1943, Pan realized that he was not far from the coastal zone: the water changed color, many birds appeared. He was rescued by Brazilian fishermen. The survivor moved independently and lost only 9 kg during his forced journey. His experience was used in survival instructions for the British Navy.

    PS U-172 was sunk on 13 December 1943 by depth charges and homing acoustic torpedoes from the air group of the escort aircraft carrier USS Bogue and destroyers USS George E. Badger, USS Clemson, USS Osmond Ingram and USS Du Pont after a 27-hour battle and pursuit west of Canary Islands, 13 crew members were killed, 46 were rescued.



    I remember that all this is familiar from my youth. It is striking (and depressing) - how did we all find IT, read it, and experience it without the Internet ?! (and now, with all the communication possibilities, there is not enough time?) hi Thank you for "returning" to your youth!
  • Mihaylov
    Mihaylov 23 October 2020 15: 11
    +6
    Quote: Sea Cat
    This was said by a man named Alain Bombard, a French physician, biologist and traveler.

    Literally about a year ago, I came across his book "Overboard at will", read it with great interest.
    1. Aag
      Aag 29 October 2020 17: 55
      0
      Quote: Mihaylov
      Quote: Sea Cat
      This was said by a man named Alain Bombard, a French physician, biologist and traveler.

      Literally about a year ago, I came across his book "Overboard at will", read it with great interest.

      Well, where are you, "captain", in the "general's" "booze" without asking?))).
      Offtopic, of course. But, men communicate, and that's good ...
      According to A. Bombar, - I read more than 30 years ago. The impressions ... are the strongest. hi
  • Liam
    Liam 23 October 2020 07: 23
    +3
    And even plastic bottles


    1. Kwas
      Kwas 24 October 2020 17: 58
      +1
      And what, they have excellent buoyancy, and not a deficit. And in case of a shipwreck, the last chance is to climb into the buffet and build yourself a "cork belt"!
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 23 October 2020 07: 29
    +3
    A drawing describing the manufacture of a model of Willis's raft from the author's book "For those who love tinkering" (M., Enlightenment, 1990)
    Interestingly, the dimensions on it are given in "British cubits" (= 50 cm)
    I just figured that a house with dimensions of 6x4 m (a whole apartment of 24 m2) would occupy most of the 10-6 m raft indicated by the author.

    But if everything is logical in the elbows, - a house 3X2 m
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  • Liam
    Liam 23 October 2020 07: 33
    +3
    duralumin kegs from beer of the company ... such and such?

    Darwin's Beer Can Regatta
  • Freeman
    Freeman 23 October 2020 09: 32
    +5
    there were still many people who built rafts from a wide variety of materials and sailed on them in the most diverse seas and oceans.


    what Isn't that what Gianni Rodari is hinting at in the tale about Gelsomino, published in 1959, having placed such poems there?


    laughing
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 23 October 2020 11: 06
      +8
      Three brave men in one basin
      They sailed across the sea in a thunderstorm.
      Be stronger than the old basin,
      Our story would be long!)))

      Song from the comedy "Carnival Night".
      hi
      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 23 October 2020 11: 44
        +8
        He replied: "You hit the spot!
        It's a pity not to shake your hands on land:
        Swimming in the sea for a long time alone,
        I yearn for you, sailors! "
        (V.S. Vysotsky, "The lone sailor"). drinks
  • Undecim
    Undecim 23 October 2020 09: 46
    +8
    It is interesting that, using a variety of materials for the construction of ocean rafts, none of their creators thought of using them for advertising, as well as for propaganda purposes.
    You are wrong, Vyacheslav Olegovich.

    Loner Japanese yachtsman Kenichi Horia is the third person to cross the Pacific Ocean solo.
    Almost all of his solo voyages, including round the world, advocate the need to solve environmental problems and the problem of pollution of the World Ocean.
    Solar panels and sea waves as a source of energy, pedal drive, recycled aluminum and plastic bottles as material for watercraft - all this was used by the Japanese in his sea travels.
    1. kalibr
      23 October 2020 10: 40
      +4
      It is today. And I mean the voyages of those years ...
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 23 October 2020 11: 29
        +7
        This is forty years ago, Vyacheslav Olegovich.
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  • ee2100
    ee2100 23 October 2020 10: 13
    +5
    "This is how this venerable old man ended his life, whose courage was beyond doubt."
    How old is the venerable author?
    1. kalibr
      23 October 2020 10: 39
      +6
      The author turned 18 on October 66 ...
      1. ee2100
        ee2100 23 October 2020 15: 31
        +6
        With the past!
        Not yet a venerable old man!
        Returning from rafting down the Ob tributary in Labytnang, I met teachers from Kharkov. They were also alloyed. The "youngest" was 64. 78 was the oldest.
        1. kalibr
          23 October 2020 17: 07
          +4
          Quote: ee2100
          The "youngest" was 64. 78 was the oldest.

          Everything is different for everyone ...
          1. ee2100
            ee2100 23 October 2020 18: 29
            +4
            It all depends on how much you feel yourself.
            Yesterday a man came up and asked for 10 rubles and I asked how old he was - 51 was the answer. Looked at 70-80. He walked with a shuffling gait.
            If he put a "cross" on himself, then he is not sunburned.
            1. kalibr
              23 October 2020 19: 07
              +4
              Alexander, the fact that I feel at 25 is really not enough for me, which gives me nothing. And although my gait is by no means a shuffling one and I each train with dumbbells ... You will not be born again anyway!
              1. ee2100
                ee2100 23 October 2020 19: 24
                +5
                "You still can't be born again", you must try to live the rest of your life as fully and fully as possible.
              2. ee2100
                ee2100 23 October 2020 19: 48
                +4
                ,, * It's better - than from vodka and colds. "
                1. kalibr
                  23 October 2020 20: 26
                  +2
                  Quote: ee2100
                  , * It's better - than from vodka and colds. "

                  Apparently so! So I'm trying! Can't you see for yourself? By the way, have you even watched my novel-trilogy "Three from Ensk"? On author.today? And it would be nice to read ... I wouldn't have to regret!
          2. Aag
            Aag 29 October 2020 18: 10
            0
            Quote: kalibr
            Quote: ee2100
            The "youngest" was 64. 78 was the oldest.

            Everything is different for everyone ...

            I have a lot of examples from real life. It's a pity - distant acquaintances, not close comrades, friends .. Cross Baikal in a kayak in the widest place, waving away from bears with oars ... Or the boat from "Progress-4" to pile with a stationary from Japanese so that at the crossings the Baikal wave crumbles the windshield from the triplex ...
            "Yes, there were people in our time ..."
        2. Korsar4
          Korsar4 23 October 2020 20: 31
          +4
          Exemplar. Although it is no less interesting to wander with some purpose, especially if it is funded.

          On the other hand, after 65 you can probably do what you like. Only usually it's work.
  • BAI
    BAI 23 October 2020 10: 42
    +6
    1.
    You will not be able to catch up with the sailing raft by swimming ...

    According to Yu. Senkevich's recollections, a long rope with a float was dragged behind the stern on both the Kon-Tiki and all the Ra's so that one could cling to it.
    2.
    on a raft of ... soccer balls?

    Somewhere in the mid-70s, in the appendix to the magazine "Young Technician" "UT for Skillful Hands" there were given the designs of watercraft (rafts, yachts, catamarans) using cameras from balls and car cameras.
    In the almanac "The Wind of Wanderings" the design of a catamaran from chambers for balls was given already for serious trips.
    By the way, cameras from soccer balls are not very suitable for a catamaran - they are small. More convenient - large plastic balls (balls). Diameter 50-70 centimeters. They are also much lighter. They were sold in the USSR, now, somehow I don't see.
    1. BAI
      BAI 23 October 2020 10: 58
      +4
      At the expense of advertising.
      While dealing with the message
      Hacking attempt!
      editing time has passed.
      There is advertising, but mostly sponsors. Not all pipe manufacturers can manufacture products suitable for long distance travel.

      This is Konyukhov, if anyone did not know.
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 23 October 2020 17: 49
      +5
      The wind of wanderings. I haven’t seen this, the Young Technician is familiar, but I liked it better: “Technique of Youth” sometimes even now I look in the library and remember my childhood
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 October 2020 11: 14
    +6
    Quote: Captain45
    By the way, on the way to Pago Pago, a wave washed away the Mecca cat from the raft and Willis, tied with a rope, jumped from the raft, the cat grabbed his head and so he pulled her out of the water.

    You can't refuse such courage!
  • Trilobite Master
    Trilobite Master 23 October 2020 14: 05
    +8
    Ha!
    Rafts, boats, yachts ... Careful preparation, a lot of money ... Everyone can do that! But we made a trip on an ice floe. We came to the bank of the river in the morning, we look - the ice floes are floating. Lets do it? Come on! We broke a pine pole about three meters long - that's all the preparation, jumped onto the ice floe and forward. We had forty kilograms in each, foolishness in my head - mom don't cry, thirst for travel - be it ... During the trip, we jumped a couple of times from one ice floe to another, got stuck in the bushes, fought against the coast from acceleration, as a result, when it started to get dark, we decided to go ashore, in short, we had to jump into the water, get out to the shore in a deep forest in knee-deep water and run to the house so as not to freeze, and it was about ten kilometers, no less.
    And they dreamed of reaching the sea first, for some reason they decided that they would quickly convey it in such and such a current, well, maybe two days, then we realized that no, we would not make it in two days. It would be before dark to reach the neighboring village. Did not make it. I had to go back in view of the futility of the venture. smile
    1. kalibr
      23 October 2020 15: 22
      +5
      Ha! In my novel PEOPLE AND WEAPONS, similar games of Dakota Indian boys are described!
    2. gsev
      gsev 23 October 2020 15: 29
      +5
      Quote: Trilobite Master
      So everyone can!

      Heyerdahl had science and precise calculation in the beginning. His travels are not an extreme game, but a test of his research and search for errors. Although in the ocean, not mastering the technique of building a raft from balsa and a ship from reeds could cost the life of the entire crew. But the meticulousness of his scientific work and respect for the traditions of the Indian raft builders and the Arab reed boat builders, whose technologies were considered primitive, allowed him to avoid fatal mistakes.
      1. Trilobite Master
        Trilobite Master 23 October 2020 15: 49
        +7
        Quote: gsev
        Heyerdahl had science and precise calculation in the beginning.

        My previous comment is humorous in case you didn't get it. Humorous-nostalgic, to be precise.
        That "journey" that I described was probably my first rafting, but by no means the last. The next ones were both longer and more interesting, so I can imagine what planning and organizing such events is, I assure you.
    3. Kwas
      Kwas 24 October 2020 18: 04
      +1
      And what nonsense people do not do in childhood afterwards respectable!
      1. Aag
        Aag 29 October 2020 18: 24
        0
        Quote: Kwas
        And what nonsense people do not do in childhood afterwards respectable!

        Unfortunately, it happens the other way around ...
        I mean just stupidity, and not extraordinary actions ... And then everyone decides for himself, what is what ...
  • gsev
    gsev 23 October 2020 15: 22
    +3
    Apparently an important component of Thor Heyerdahl's success and fame was his desire to involve as many representatives of different cultures and peoples in his enterprises as possible. He tested canned food for the US Army, made a citizen of the USSR participate in his expeditions, and smoothed out friction in his multinational teams. In protest against the war in the Horn of Africa, his team unanimously interrupted the expedition and burned the Tigris. His latest idea about the roots of the Scandinavians in the Azov region could contribute to the rapprochement of European peoples, but was curtailed due to the traveler's old age and the lack of a worthy successor to his work. He promoted his theories both in the West and in the USSR, his travels were scientific experiments to prove his innocence in front of the official armchair theorists.
  • vladcub
    vladcub 23 October 2020 17: 42
    +5
    [quote = kalibr] I never liked the ride, especially after the rural epic from 1977 to 1980. I need a bath, a good table, three varieties of wine and champagne for July 20
    I am by nature a finicky lone wolf. Shyutka
    1. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 23 October 2020 18: 03
      +6
      I am by nature a finicky lone wolf.

      Type of this? drinks
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 23 October 2020 20: 32
        +5
        They gave me a cup with this character.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 23 October 2020 21: 30
          +5
          And I have a piggy bank. Funny ...
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 23 October 2020 21: 44
            +5
            People are observant.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 23 October 2020 21: 56
              +5
              It's a little strange with the wolf, but actually I have a whole collection of donated mugs with a picture of a cat.
              Although the wolf is very charming. smile
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 23 October 2020 21: 59
                +5
                Probably, after school years I do not collect anything.
                Diaries are often given as gifts.

                He wrote three - on the fourth he stalled thoroughly
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 23 October 2020 22: 05
                  +6
                  Sergei, you have something to say about this lady and some strange coincidences in her communication with White Star.
                  Violet Constance Jessop (October 2, 1887, Bahia Blanca, Argentina - May 5, 1971, Great Ashfield, Suffolk, East Anglia) - stewardess of ocean liners of the White Star Line passenger company. Violet Jessop served on all Olympic-class liners and, accordingly, witnessed incidents with them. Violet Jessop was aboard the Olympic, which collided with the cruiser Hawk; aboard the Titanic, which collided with an iceberg; and, during World War I, she served as a nurse aboard the hospital ship Britannic, which sank after a mine explosion. The presence on board of all three Olympic-class liners during incidents that had disastrous consequences for two of them made the life story of Violet Jessop popular among researchers of the Titanic disaster. Received the nickname "Miss Unsinkable" (English Miss Unsinkable).
                  1. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 23 October 2020 22: 15
                    +7
                    Little can I say.
                    The first association is an anecdote about the third consecutive fall from the bell tower.

                    But there is clearly no time for jokes.
                    Can you explain?

                    Something like a "black widow".

                    The story of the kid who was taken away? No reason, no intelligent eyewitnesses.

                    And I have never watched the film with DeCaprio, and I don't want to.

                    Fatalism is a very serious matter. From school I was interested.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 23 October 2020 22: 26
                      +5
                      From De Caprio, "Titanic" mean? If so, then the film is about nothing, absolutely not hooked either to the brain or to the heart.
                      There was another 2000 film called Britannica, with this nurse as the main character. There they also dragged a German spy and Irish terrorists, it was funny to watch.
                      1. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 23 October 2020 22: 30
                        +6
                        In general, the violation of the classical attitude "woman on the ship" does not lead to good.

                        You can consult Stepan Razin.
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 23 October 2020 22: 49
                        +5
                        Or at Drake's, at the beginning of his journey around the world, he found on the "Lani" some kind of "lady" that the sailors had dragged on board in order to brighten up the harsh everyday life. I found it, and immediately ordered it to be thrown overboard, which was immediately executed. The journey not only ended well, but also brought considerable profit.
                      3. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 23 October 2020 23: 04
                        +5
                        And I also like that Drake could write, but he didn't like it. He had something to do and beyond that.
                      4. Catfish
                        Catfish 23 October 2020 23: 12
                        +4
                        Did you make friends with Shakespeare as a kindred spirit? Almost...
                      5. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 23 October 2020 23: 26
                        +3
                        “And the fact that they call the spirit of the time -
                        There is a spirit of professors, and their concepts,
                        Which these gentlemen are inappropriately
                        They give out for true antiquity ”(c).
                      6. Catfish
                        Catfish 23 October 2020 23: 47
                        +4

                        In development of Pliny's thesis.
                      7. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 00: 05
                        +4
                        "Neither be a victim, nor an executioner,
                        Not a gentleman, not a beggar "(c).
                      8. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 00: 14
                        +4
                        "And there is no end to the intoxicating power of blood,
                        Where the altar demands all new bodies,
                        Throws souls into Lucifer's mouth,
                        On a shaky throne, a temporary worker, not a sovereign. "(C)
                      9. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 00: 25
                        +4
                        "But there is no escape from the slave,
                        Who became king ”(c).
                      10. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 00: 32
                        +4
                        "The fire burns while sacrifices are made,
                        And the flame eagerly licks its tongue
                        Don't think that priests are immortal
                        Their path will end with a bloody altar. "(C)
                      11. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 00: 40
                        +4
                        “Throw overboard everything that smells of blood -
                        Believe me, the price is not high ”(c).
                      12. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 00: 42
                        +5
                        "And my ship will leave me,
                        On it, probably, people are of higher grade,
                        The lookout only looks forward
                        He does not care that a man overboard. "(C)
                      13. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 00: 51
                        +5
                        "My friend - my third shoulder -
                        Will always be with me "(c).
                      14. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 01: 01
                        +4
                        "And I'll tell you: you can't live alone,
                        We are one family on this sinful earth.
                        But only we are given a little to live,
                        And how to appreciate it, friends! "(C)
                      15. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 01: 22
                        +4
                        “But always smoke - for two,
                        But always drink - for three ”(c).
                      16. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 01: 27
                        +4
                        "- Friend, stop smoking! - And in response - silence:
                        He did not return from battle yesterday. "(from)
                      17. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 01: 33
                        +4
                        “And our reward for silence
                        There will definitely be a sound ”(c).
                      18. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 01: 43
                        +4
                        "A melody sounds. Dissolving in it,
                        The soul lives in unearthly chords
                        Desiringly surrendering to their beauties
                        And not for a moment leaving them. "(C)
                      19. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 01: 46
                        +3
                        "How can these hands
                        To extract these sounds "(c).
                      20. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 01: 52
                        +4
                        "Do not give up your efforts, maestro, Do not take your palms off your forehead." (from)
                      21. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 01: 53
                        +3
                        “Somewhere under your feet,
                        And over their heads
                        Only the earth and the sky ”(c).
                      22. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 01: 58
                        +4
                        "And only dust under the boots,
                        God is with us and a banner is with us
                        And a heavy carbine at the ready. "(C)
                      23. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 07: 26
                        +3
                        “Around the taiga, one taiga.
                        And we are in the middle ”(c).
                      24. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 08: 10
                        +4
                        "Are you sad, my friend?
                        Does Paris prevent you from living?
                        Look, there is taiga around you.
                        Throw some wood on the fire
                        Listen honey
                        He is there, and you are at the devil's horns. "(C)
                      25. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 08: 18
                        +4
                        “And then you start to descend,
                        Weighing each step carefully.
                        50 is kind of like 20.
                        Well, 70 is kind of like 10 "(c).
                      26. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 08: 25
                        +4
                        "You and I are not the same for a long time,
                        And we are not spoiled by danger.
                        Cap got into some committee
                        And the boatswain serves as a bouncer. "(C)
                      27. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 08: 27
                        +4
                        “Three Greeks smuggled into Odessa” (c).
                      28. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 08: 29
                        +4
                        "Odessa lights the lights
                        And the ships go straight to the sea,
                        Let's talk over your shores,
                        My beauty, Adessa-mom. "(C)
                      29. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 08: 32
                        +4
                        "The bluest in the world
                        The Black Sea is mine "(c).
                      30. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 08: 34
                        +4
                        "The sea is turning blue beyond the boulevard,
                        The chestnut tree blooms over the city
                        And Konstantin takes the guitar
                        And sings in a low voice ... "(c)
                      31. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 08: 40
                        +4
                        "All open lands
                        Long ago named
                        In the names of great people
                        And saints ”(c).
                      32. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 09: 03
                        +4
                        "... In the mirages of the shores,
                        In the veils of the lands -
                        These promised, desired,
                        Both Columbian and Magellan ... "(c)
                      33. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 09: 16
                        +5
                        The model of the Pinta caravel is still in the room.

                        “Life is like a ship:
                        A little Spanish castle - by! " (from).
                      34. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 October 2020 09: 37
                        +4
                        I have "Santa Maria", glued a long time ago, but is still alive.
                        And in castles, sometimes, interesting things happen. wink
                      35. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 24 October 2020 18: 21
                        +3
                        It looks like Leonov's hero from "Say a word about the poor hussar."
            2. Phil77
              Phil77 24 October 2020 19: 57
              +4
              Quote: Korsar4
              "The bluest in the world
              The Black Sea is mine "(c).

              I remembered!
            3. Korsar4
              Korsar4 24 October 2020 19: 58
              +4
              Good episode.
            4. Phil77
              Phil77 24 October 2020 20: 02
              +4
              Quote: Korsar4
              Good episode.

              * Orchestra !!!!! Orchestra !!!!! Farewell to the Slav !!!!! *
            5. Korsar4
              Korsar4 24 October 2020 20: 12
              +4
              The question is, what's yours. Where children are born. And to which nest they return.
              And what language they speak is also important.
            6. Aag
              Aag 29 October 2020 18: 32
              0
              Quote: Phil77
              Quote: Korsar4
              Good episode.

              * Orchestra !!!!! Orchestra !!!!! Farewell to the Slav !!!!! *

              Strong!
  • Phil77
    Phil77 24 October 2020 01: 26
    +4
    Quote: Korsar4
    the woman on the ship "does not lead to good.

    Good, oh, it's already night ?!, nights Sergey! laughing
    Well, if you consider that we are talking about passenger liners, then how can there be without women? Passengers, stewardesses, and others, so on, so on.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 24 October 2020 01: 34
    +4
    This is to the question that in the 20th century and in the 21st there is nothing to lose concentration.

    The elements do not forgive this.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 24 October 2020 01: 41
    +5
    Quote: Korsar4
    The elements do not forgive this.

    That's right! Ladies, friends, I'll go get some sleep. This comrade actually woke me up.

    I wanted to eat! laughing
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 26 October 2020 11: 03
    +1
    There was another 2000 film called Britannica, with this nurse as the main character. There they also dragged a German spy and Irish terrorists, it was funny to watch.

    The film was shot extremely poorly, using inexpensive graphics .. but watchable! drinks although the scene of "knocking down" a torpedo from a Lewis machine gun is interesting, how much is this possible? what
  • Phil77
    Phil77 24 October 2020 07: 37
    +5
    Quote: Sea Cat
    "Miss Unsinkable" (English Miss Unsinkable).

    I will add that in 1951, a phone call rang in the house of this lucky woman and a woman's voice asked if she saved a small child on the Titanic. At the affirmative answer there was laughter in the receiver and the same voice said:
    * This child was me. *.
    Jessop's biographer thought they wanted to play her, but Violet flatly denied it. This lucky lady died in 1971.
  • Kwas
    Kwas 24 October 2020 18: 08
    +4
    But I wouldn't take this pretty miss on board! Just in case. stop
  • Phil77
    Phil77 23 October 2020 18: 38
    +4
    Quote: vladcub
    I need a bath, a good table, three varieties of wine and champagne for July 20

    This is for you here! Photo attached. laughing
    1. kalibr
      23 October 2020 19: 09
      +3
      Exactly, Sergei! And planned for next summer ...
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 23 October 2020 19: 12
        +3
        Quote: kalibr
        And planned for next summer ...

        Good evening, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
        Come on! On * Queen Mary-2 * ??????
        Here is the topic !! ¡!!!! good
        1. kalibr
          23 October 2020 19: 24
          +4
          Well, of course not that you are. Ferry from St. Petersburg to Scandinavia. But there are good ferries there.
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 23 October 2020 19: 35
            +4
            Oh, disappointed! And I thought in the future to read the impressions of our man about being aboard the heiress of the legendary * transatlantic *! fellow
          2. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 23 October 2020 19: 52
            +5
            Ferries are different. Believe me, Vyacheslav Olegovich.
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 23 October 2020 20: 08
              +4
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              Ferries are different. Believe me, Vyacheslav Olegovich.

              What is true is true; there was one among them.
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 23 October 2020 20: 10
                +4
                Although with liners, not everything is clear.
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 23 October 2020 20: 16
                  +3
                  However, the sisterships went well.
                  1. Phil77
                    Phil77 23 October 2020 20: 28
                    +4
                    Quote: 3x3zsave
                    the sisterships "walked fine.

                    * Olympic * had a nickname - * Reliable old man *. And by the way, if you go back to * Queen Mary-2 *, then at the moment this is the only large ship in the world with the designation - * RMS *!
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 23 October 2020 21: 54
                      +4
                      Hello, Sergey! smile
                      And how well it all started.

                      By the way, there was the first "signal" from the Olympic. On September 20, 1911, on the fairway from Southampton to the Isle of Wight, the liner collided with the cruiser Hawk going parallel, the suction phenomenon affected, the cruiser yawned and hit the Olympic in the side. There were no casualties, "Hawk" rolled its bow ram, and the liner stood up for a year for repairs.
                    2. Phil77
                      Phil77 24 October 2020 01: 10
                      +3
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      , and the liner stood up for a year for repairs.

                      Hi Konstantin!
                      On May 15, 1934, the same * Olympic * rammed at full speed the floating beacon * Nantucket * out of 11 crew members of which only four survived.
                    3. Catfish
                      Catfish 24 October 2020 01: 15
                      +3
                      I did not hear about this, however, the lucky boat, they could not drown it, no matter how hard they tried. laughing
                      Sergei Korsar and I are exchanging rhymes here, connect. drinks
                    4. Phil77
                      Phil77 24 October 2020 01: 21
                      +3
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      lucky boat, they could not drown it, no matter how hard they tried.

                      He began to be lucky after this gentleman.

                      And so yes! Passed until 1937, and then, alas, cut.
                    5. Catfish
                      Catfish 24 October 2020 01: 25
                      +3
                      What was the name of this "sea wolf"? Smith, by chance?
                    6. Phil77
                      Phil77 24 October 2020 01: 36
                      +3
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      Smith

                      He is himself! Under the command of this captain, a lot of things happened. A pipe explosion, theft of the crew, an unjustified risk, a collision with a cruiser, and of course the collision and death of the * Titanic *. Here you can only talk about who was * the head of the * company * White old *. In general, if we talk about the * Titanic *, then I think IF !!!, during that voyage the ship was commanded by Lightoller, everything would have turned out differently! He was a careful and happy guy!
                    7. Catfish
                      Catfish 24 October 2020 01: 41
                      +3
                      ... I think IF !!!, during that voyage the ship was commanded by Lightoller, everything would have turned out differently!

                      And what "boxes" did he command?
                      Yes, and it’s strange that the company kept such an odious person as Smith for the “captain”.
                    8. Phil77
                      Phil77 24 October 2020 01: 57
                      +3
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      And what "boxes" did he command?

                      And he commanded only warships during WWI! That has a number of questions for the management of the company * White Star *. Were there really already * effective managers *? wink
                      Okay, good night, amigo! lol
                    9. Kwas
                      Kwas 24 October 2020 18: 46
                      +2
                      Not understood. Smith died on the Titanic! How could he command warships during WWI? In fact, he commanded every new White Star on the maiden voyage. If we are talking about the same thing.
                    10. Phil77
                      Phil77 24 October 2020 19: 16
                      +3
                      Quote: Kwas
                      Smith died on the Titanic!

                      Probably unsuccessfully put it. Sorry!
                      It's about Lightoller, of course! hi
                2. Phil77
                  Phil77 24 October 2020 07: 18
                  +3
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  commanded

                  Good morning Constantine! Here is another photo.
                3. Catfish
                  Catfish 24 October 2020 08: 01
                  +3
                  Good morning Sergey.
                  Ship, what ship did these guys serve?
                4. Phil77
                  Phil77 24 October 2020 08: 04
                  +3
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  Ship, what ship did these guys serve?

                  So after all-RMS * Titanic *! hi
                5. Catfish
                  Catfish 24 October 2020 08: 05
                  +3
                  You seem to be talking about the Royal Navy?
                6. Phil77
                  Phil77 24 October 2020 08: 07
                  +3
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  Ship


                  Here is a photo where they are in full force.
                7. Phil77
                  Phil77 24 October 2020 08: 13
                  +2
                  During the war, Lightoller commanded the destroyer HMTB117, then the destroyer * Falkon *, then another destroyer. Well, during WWII, he participated in the evocation of the British from the continent and managed to navigate his own yacht with soldiers without loss! Lucky !!!! !
  • Phil77
    Phil77 23 October 2020 20: 37
    +3
    The creators clearly did not count on the German mine, and on the PMA as well.

    This is * Britannica *.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 23 October 2020 20: 45
      +3
      And a couple more illustrations.


      It's all the same * Britannica *.
    2. Kwas
      Kwas 24 October 2020 18: 56
      +2
      What an interesting photo! The edges of the hole are bent outward, that is, by an internal explosion. I wonder what it detonated there? Yes, the Britons did not spare civilians, carrying passengers along with ammunition! So the Lusitania was also lost, and the explosion was in approximately the same place, hold number 1.
    3. Phil77
      Phil77 24 October 2020 19: 19
      +2
      Quote: Kwas
      The edges of the hole are bent outward, that is, by an internal explosion.

      According to Cousteau, they did not find anything suspicious during the dives on * Britannic *.
    4. Kwas
      Kwas 24 October 2020 19: 39
      +1
      Looks like everything exploded, there was nothing left, perhaps there was not ammunition, but just explosives. By the way, the size of the hole (about a thousand square meters) also clearly indicates that much more exploded than a mine or a torpedo.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 24 October 2020 19: 30
    +2
    Quote: Kwas
    The edges of the hole are bent outward, that is, by an internal explosion. I wonder what it detonated there?

    You know, this is most likely an unsuccessful angle. During the dive, the vessel rested its bow into the ground and ... the bow was practically broken off from the hull, as can be seen in other photographs.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 24 October 2020 19: 31
    +2
    Quote: Phil77
    almost broken off from the body, as can be seen in other photographs.

    For example here.
  • Kwas
    Kwas 24 October 2020 20: 40
    +1
    But sorry, hi , just now I noticed that in photo # 1 you clearly show a different vessel than in photos 2, 3, 4! The nose is not buried in the ground, the foremast is separate and a number of other trifles.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 25 October 2020 14: 47
    +1
    It's so simple! Photos from different years! After all, if you compare the photo * Titanic * 1997 and today, then there will be a lot of changes too!
  • Kwas
    Kwas 25 October 2020 19: 22
    +1
    Quote: Phil77
    It's so simple! Photos from different years!

    No, it doesn't! Look, in photo # 1 the foremast has fallen off and lies separately, that is, it should be later, but in the same photo the nose is not crumpled, and on others it is badly crumpled and buried in the ground. He could not have dealt with it later! request So the question is - where are the pictures from and what kind of ships are they?
  • Phil77
    Phil77 25 October 2020 20: 55
    +1
    Quote: Kwas
    Where are the pictures from and what kind of ships are they?

    Photos from Yandex. It is precisely * Britannica * that is depicted on them, this does not cause any doubts. The sunken ships of this class-unit. But further questions, these photos really do. Your truth!
  • Aag
    Aag 29 October 2020 18: 44
    0
    Quote: Phil77
    Quote: Kwas
    Where are the pictures from and what kind of ships are they?

    Photos from Yandex. It is precisely * Britannica * that is depicted on them, this does not cause any doubts. The sunken ships of this class-unit. But further questions, these photos really do. Your truth!

    Do you really think that this is a PHOTO? Even if it is completed with a drawing? Illumination, transparency (transparency of the environment-water), chiaroscuro? ...
  • Aag
    Aag 29 October 2020 18: 38
    0
    Quote: Kwas
    What an interesting photo! The edges of the hole are bent outward, that is, by an internal explosion. I wonder what it detonated there? Yes, the Britons did not spare civilians, carrying passengers along with ammunition! So the Lusitania was also lost, and the explosion was in approximately the same place, hold number 1.

    Sorry, not special, but there was an opinion that this character "worked" for the benefit of insurance companies.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 23 October 2020 20: 14
    +4
    Mdaaa ... "Estonia" ... Still litigating.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 23 October 2020 20: 20
      +3
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      They are still suing.

      A very dark story. A lot of versions about this disaster, but most likely we will find out the truth / if we find out / we will not soon.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 23 October 2020 20: 31
        +3
        In principle, the story is clear. Supercargo turned out to be a sucker.
  • kalibr
    23 October 2020 20: 24
    +2
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    Trust me, Vyacheslav Olegovich

    I believe why not. But I looked at which ones go on this route - I liked it. But this is not all 100%. The exit will be closed completely ... Or the third wave will begin ...
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 23 October 2020 20: 34
      +4
      Quote: kalibr
      Or the 3-wave will start ...

      And then 4,5,6. * Follow the announcement of the programs! *. laughing
      If there is a possibility, go ahead and we'll read about your impressions later, eh? wink
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 23 October 2020 20: 33
    +4
    Downstairs there is light and dancing.
    Sauna on request.

    But look from the deck - the waves are decent. And this impression is stronger.
  • Kwas
    Kwas 24 October 2020 18: 13
    +1
    Is this the Costa Concordia hour?
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 24 October 2020 19: 33
      +2
      No, it's * Queen Mary 2 *.
  • Old26
    Old26 23 October 2020 18: 47
    +6
    Quote: BAI
    By the way, these same correspondents, but already together on electric trains (namely electric trains (one piece, where they were not - on hitchhiking)), drove from Moscow to Vladivostok.

    My former boss (in KB) was in a peak situation for me. I got on a business trip to the Moscow region in December. The business trip ended around December 28th. Despite all his efforts, he did not get tickets, even in SV, although the state would not have paid him in full. It's good that he had a book on railways, with tables of railway sections, an approximate timetable. I decided to go from Moscow to Novocherkassk by train. We usually gathered at their home for such holidays as November 7, May 1, New Year. They came at 8 pm to help if anything. But the owner is not. And they sat down at the table without him. On the clock, about 23 kopecks, the rattle of the key in the lock - and the appearance of his people. But there was something to talk about all New Year's Eve.

    Quote: kalibr
    I never liked rides

    Me too, but anything can happen. For example, I somehow had to get from Novocherkassk to the town of Lubna, Poltava region for almost 100 hours on the reels, without sleep. The pleasure, I tell you, is below average

    Quote: smith 55
    The leader, I agree with you, has rarely heard of this.
    The Komsomol member regularly published reports about Heerdahl's travels, especially when our compatriot Senkevich was with him.
    We waited impatiently for the next essay, discussed at work.
    Thanks to the author for an interesting topic.

    We, too. And someone else at the department bought Senkevich's book On Ra Across the Atlantic. So they read it to the holes, there was a queue who would read after whom

    Quote: kalibr
    The author turned 18 on October 66 ...

    With the past! All the best, or as I usually say to my colleagues when congratulating (with the words from M. Magomayev's song) "I wish you everything that you wish for yourself" ...

    Quote: Trilobite Master
    Rafts, boats, yachts ... Careful preparation, a lot of money ... Everyone can do that! But we made a trip on an ice floe.

    Well, age gave birth to recklessness. It is unlikely that they would risk such a trip now. I didn't travel on an ice floe, but on a raft .... In the mid-70s, my work colleague somehow bought a decommissioned six-seater life raft (from the aviation NAZ), Covered. There were many more places for those who wanted to spend a vacation on a raft at work. As a result, there were three of us left before departure. We reached Belaya Kalitva, inflated the raft, and along the Seversky Donets, to the Don and to the village of Bagaevskaya. Something about 200 km. Where the oars, but mostly drift with the flow. With stops for the evening. We overcame it slowly in a couple of weeks. There were a lot of impressions. The next year, six of them were already rafting ...
  • Phil77
    Phil77 24 October 2020 06: 40
    +4
    Quote: Korsar4
    after 65 you can do what you like.


    Well, various options from * favorite power *! laughing
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 October 2020 22: 03
    +1
    My father instilled a love for the sea, with his stories about flights. At 9 years old he almost went to sea in the Republic of Tatarstan, if he did not leave the cabin and hit the border guards in the corridor, as if he would wake up already against Kildin. The captain did not mind. And then The books of Thor Herdahl did their job. I combined business with pleasure, I do not regret that I went to sea. If I had the opportunity to repeat it with pleasure. Unfortunately, not in this life! hi drinks drinks