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Nostalgia for the Wehrmacht and the Gestapo. The ultra-right infiltrates the power structures of Germany

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Nostalgia for the Wehrmacht and the Gestapo. The ultra-right infiltrates the power structures of Germany

Source: lenta.ru


The guilt complex is over


German society took a long time and painfully to get rid of the Nazi legacy. You can talk a lot about the service in the Bundeswehr of high-ranking Wehrmacht officers, about thousands of Nazis who did not receive adequate punishment, but the Germans, up to a certain point, honestly bore the burden of responsibility for the atrocities in World War II. Not everyone agreed with the scale of German repentance, but there will always and everywhere be radicals demanding even greater retribution. Turning points in stories German pacifism began in the 90s, and there were several reasons for this. First, a critical mass of citizens grew, who did not remember the war and did not see the horrors of Nazism with the subsequent devastation. Young people did not have a causal relationship between the greeting "Heil Hitler!" and destroyed by Dresden and Hamburg. The second moment was a certain fatigue from constant moral pressure on the descendants of the builders of the Third Reich. As a result, the intensity of anti-fascism began to gradually decrease. It seemed that the Germans would return to normal liberal-democratic life. However, somewhere a switch clicked, and the ultra-right suddenly took the stage. And how did they come out!


Source: cdni.rt.com

In 2017, the main opposition party in the Bundestag was the Alternative for Germany, a typical far-right party. Before that, there were years of relative calm among the ideological heirs of German nationalism. The first significant right-wing parties emerged in the FRG in the 1980s, but their success was either insignificant, like the Republicans party, founded in 1983 and received only twice insignificant results, or insignificant, like the German People's Union. received in 24 years no more than 1,2% in national elections. And now the "Alternative for Germany" is such a success. One of the triggers of German sympathy for right-wing ideas was, of course, the migrants who filled the country. The need for constant economic growth, cheap labor and low birth rates of ethnic Germans have led to the emergence of a large stratum of workers from the Third World. Around this background, events developed that led to the emergence of admirers of the SS and Gestapo traditions in the power structures of Germany. For the ultra-right German, there is now no other alternative to militarization than serving in the police or the army. Moreover, a radical in police uniform will finally be able to achieve his goal and punish unbelted migrants who do not want to honor the traditions of the enlightened West. For less radical right-wing activists, the alternative is military service as a real opportunity to defend their country. Over time, the number of such characters in the army and police reached a critical level, and the dishes began to spill out. In the middle of last September, 29 police officers (25 of whom worked in Essen) were suspended in North Rhine-Westphalia for Nazi trash in messengers and social networks. Swastikas, ridge, photos of Adolf and photographs of migrants against the background of gas chambers shocked first the authorities, and then the German media. All this hype turned out to be very useful for the adherents of Black Lives Matter, who demanded to fire not only neo-Nazis when weapons, but in general all the police. The Minister of the Interior Horst Seehofer, of course, did not heed the calls, but only indicated that there was no systemic ultra-right wing in the German police.

Consider what the Minister of the Interior considers isolated cases of neo-Nazism in his department. In 2017, the secret services uncovered the Nordkreuz cell ("Northern Cross") in the federal state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. This organized structure included more than 50 security officials of various stripes: police officers and regular military personnel.


Source: dw.com

These guys did not just exchange inspiring pictures on WhatsApp, but prepared a series of murders of volunteers involved in helping refugees. They also blamed the radicals for an attempted coup d'etat and the establishment of a regime in which there would no longer be a place for foreigners. The targets were Foreign Minister Heiko Maas, former President Joachim Gauck and Bundestag Vice President Claudia Roth. The gang managed to steal weapons and ammunition from the warehouses of the local criminal police on a large scale, which was enough both for fire training and for preparing terrorist attacks. The leaders formed an impressive list of several thousand victims, which indicated the detailed addresses of each. The database, of course, was taken from the same criminal police department in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. With the thoroughness typical of the Germans, the extremists bought 200 bags for corpses and several dozen bags of quicklime to dispose of their victims. This story turned out to be the loudest, but far from the last. By the fall of 2020, entire networks of ultra-right police officers had been identified in at least three out of sixteen German federal states. And a special study of the military counterintelligence identified 319 suspects of sympathies for Nazism in the police and another 58 similar characters in the security service.

The military is also in action


Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer in the spring of 2020 had to disband an entire German special forces unit KSK (Kommando Spezialkräfte, special forces), which had stained itself with sympathies for Nazism. So the German military also had its own Nordkreuz. The ultra-right commandos dragged weapons, ammunition and explosives from the unit, apparently intending to continue the work of their “colleagues” from the Mecklenburg-Vorpommern criminal police. After the scandal, the auditors lost 62 kilograms of explosives and more than 40 thousand cartridges.

The cases of missing weapons from the FRG security officials raise many questions. Is the country such a mess that the army and the police cannot keep track of the safety of firearms and explosives? Or has the problem with extremism still become systemic among the siloviki and systematic theft "for a good cause" is encouraged at the very top? Be that as it may, weapons, also extremist literature, music and other attributes of the Third Reich ended up in the hands of the ultra-right.

It is also obvious that the vaunted German scrupulousness causes considerable disruptions at the stage of selecting candidates for military and police service. Arms in hand and the right to punish people who glorify Adolf in instant messengers and burn with hatred of refugees ... Secret operations in Afghanistan accelerated the processes of radicalization of special forces, during which extremists finally received an almost legal right to kill foreigners. The KSK cell was punctured on the banal: they threw a party about the release of one of the officers and turned it into a real orgy in the spirit of the SS. The invited priestess of love was so outraged by the overt Nazi rituals accompanying the binge that she went to the police and local newspapers the next day. One way or another, from 50 to 70 people out of a thousand employees of the KSK special unit were involved in the ultra-right underground.


Source: dw.com

As usually happens in such cases, they started talking about the notorious tip of the iceberg, they say, the real scale of the brown infection is several times higher than the identified ones. A “witch hunt” is being initiated across the country, which will only increase the atmosphere of mistrust and fear, and this is an excellent ground for the growth of new extremist cells in the ranks of the security forces. When there is a reason to "be friends" against someone, it is always easier to find like-minded people. Only if earlier migrants acted as enemies, now government bodies will be added to them as carriers of a permanent threat. And any threat must eventually be eliminated. Or die yourself.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 9 October 2020 05: 42
    13
    It is very interesting, I think in the near future Germany will change.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 9 October 2020 06: 46
      23
      This is not surprising, because if you cram the country with emigrants, sooner or later it will blaze. And I don’t think they don’t understand this to Germany.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 9 October 2020 07: 10
        +8
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        This is not surprising, because if you cram the country with emigrants, sooner or later it will blaze. And I don’t think they don’t understand this to Germany.

        I think for this purpose, emigrants are settling in Europe. History repeats itself .. Recently, Kissinger said that the current situation is similar to the beginning of the First World War ...
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 9 October 2020 10: 30
          +3
          I think for this purpose, emigrants are settling in Europe.

          Exactly!
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 9 October 2020 12: 58
          +5
          Rather, everything is simpler. Europe is losing out to the economic competition of Southeast Asia. If in the second half of the 20th century 80 percent of the world's civil shipbuilding was in Europe, now these are 3 countries - China, South Korea and Japan. China alone is 39 percent of the world's shipbuilding. request
          Industry goes to Asia. PM Europeans have no choice but to cut social security and import migrants in order to get cheaper labor. That in response provokes protests like "yellow vests". If Germany is even more or less normal due to the colonization of Eastern Europe and the annexation of the GDR, the rest of the countries did not receive such colonies. Hence the economic problems of Italy and Spain, for example. request
          1. Jager
            Jager 9 October 2020 17: 58
            -2
            Italy and Spain in modern times have never shone with indicators. Germany, France and Great Britain have always been the locomotives of technical progress. But the Great Britons after the decline of the empire were very crushed and slipped to the level of the same Spain.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 9 October 2020 18: 37
            0
            Quote: g1v2
            PM Europeans have no choice but to cut social security and import migrants to

            Are you ready to allow your wife to walk to the left when for some reason you cannot?
            This is me about your arguments, not about your relationship with your wife. wink
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 9 October 2020 22: 10
              +1
              I will probably surprise you, but if you cannot fulfill your male functions for years, then your wife will most likely go to the left, regardless of whether you allow her to do it or not. wink I will reveal a huge secret. Get ready. A woman is also a person and she has needs. Including genital. fellow I strongly advise you not to forget about your male duties. laughing
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 10 October 2020 06: 55
                0
                Quote: g1v2
                I strongly advise you not to forget about your male duties

                I am glad that simple analogies are within your grasp.
                So, based on this, maybe Germany has another way besides importing migrants? wink
                1. g1v2
                  g1v2 10 October 2020 14: 33
                  +1
                  Of course I have. I'm not saying that this path was correct. request I just explained why she does it. Here you need to understand that Germany had already had a successful experience with the import of Turks, and France had a slightly less successful experience with the Algerians, so they decided this time that it would be the same. But the world is already different and the human material this time went different. with a different attitude and from other places - hence the unfortunate result. request
                  Well, the surest way for the West has always been the same - to stupidly overwhelm competitors or start a fire with a massacre, so that industry and capital would run to where it is stable and calm. request
          3. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 13 October 2020 13: 24
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            80 percent of the world's civil shipbuilding

            by the way, Russia is already in 2nd place in the world in civil shipbuilding
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 13 October 2020 20: 11
              +2
              In fact, this is an extremely sly figure. It was received at the expense of Zvezda, on which several large ships were laid and a decrease in the number of orders from competitors due to the 2020 crisis. Each Afromax tanker is the size of a large aircraft carrier. And 5 of them have already been laid and this is not the end. Plus supply ships. But so far, in fact, only their assembly from blocks built nearby in South Korea is taking place on Zvezda. The shipbuilding complex will be under construction until at least 24 years, and more likely until 27. Gradually, with each constructed section, more and more operations will be carried out at Zvezda.
              PM this topic about the second place will become real only in 25. Before that, it is extremely controversial and not indicative. But again you have to understand. that we build practically everything that is noticeable only for ourselves, and Asians build for the whole world. request Plus, so far we have only one fully modern shipyard at the level of world leaders - this very Star. Well, there will probably still be the Kola shipyard of Novatek. And the Asian troika still has huge shipbuilding capacities technically equipped according to the latest standards. Building from Asians is fast and inexpensive, it will be difficult to compete with them, but it is necessary. hi
        3. Simargl
          Simargl 9 October 2020 14: 16
          +2
          Quote: Svarog
          I think for this purpose, emigrants are settling in Europe. History repeats itself ..
          Exactly! Pressuring the Jews will no longer work. But migrants are both marginal and do not feel sorry for them.
      2. Evil543
        Evil543 9 October 2020 08: 00
        +6
        Soon minarets will be built, but they will not work.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 9 October 2020 14: 17
          0
          Quote: Evil543
          Soon minarets will be built, but they will not work.
          And look at the density of minarets in the GDR and FRG.
      3. Latrus
        Latrus 9 October 2020 16: 50
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        This is not surprising, because if you cram the country with emigrants, sooner or later it will blaze. And I don’t think they don’t understand this to Germany.

        A black anecdote recalled:
        Earthquakes hit Turkey, killing 5 Turks ..
        The United States provided assistance in the amount of $ 10 million
        Russia allocated 10 tons of gum aid
        Germany sent 5 Turks ... laughing
        The Germans have been paying and repenting for 75 years and they are even more humiliated and milked. EVERYTHING, except for the winners of Russia-USSR. Paradox!
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 9 October 2020 07: 28
      21
      Why only Germany, I am also for the revival of SMERSH, well, how much can you suck juices from the country and ride dogs on a plane to exhibitions. Well, where have you seen that ministers and deputies in office, manage to have 1-5 billion rubles per year in addition to the official salary?
    3. NF68
      NF68 11 October 2020 16: 40
      0
      Quote: Pessimist22
      It is very interesting, I think in the near future Germany will change.


      The changes are already being observed. In the future, this process will be even more noticeable.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 9 October 2020 05: 50
    18
    And neo-Nazism in the Federal Republic of Germany did not die ... I have several books, by West German journalists, published in the USSR in the 70s and 80s, they are just about what the author writes about ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 9 October 2020 06: 01
      +5
      the real scale of the brown infection is several times higher than the identified ones.
      Leopard change his spots !
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 9 October 2020 06: 35
        +4
        Quote: parusnik
        And neo-Nazism in the Federal Republic of Germany did not die ...

        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Leopard change his spots !


        Or - "How many wolves do not feed ..."

        All right, only the Nazis in the FRG ... Between us and them, at least there is some kind of buffer from the "not yet dead", with which the Germans have their old historical accounts and claims. direct collision Russia and Germany are still unlikely.

        But at our immediate borders it exists and like a weed blooms more and more, if you may say "state", purposefully choosing the goal of its internal policy to recreate the "state" according to Bandera-Nazi patterns ...
        1. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 9 October 2020 07: 56
          0
          Quote: BDRM 667
          the "state", purposefully choosing the goal of its internal policy to recreate the "state" according to Bandera-Nazi patterns ...

          Unfortunately no. An ordinary post-Soviet swamp. The current Ukraine (and the Ukrainian government) is extremely far from Bandera or, there, Skoropadsky. Pure Central Rada Hrushevsky-Vinnichenko. National traditions, be they wrong.
    2. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 9 October 2020 07: 40
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      I have several books, by West German journalists, published in the USSR in the 70s, 80s,

      good
    3. Blacksmith 55
      Blacksmith 55 9 October 2020 08: 05
      19
      Good morning .
      Nobody names the real reason for the surge of neo-Nazism in the army and police.
      Any politician who told the truth will be immediately taken down.
      An example is the Saracen, who wrote a couple of books. His first book Deutschland schaft sich ab. Translation: Germany is destroying itself.
      It's no secret that the police are people too, they also have their own opinions and feelings. And observing what is happening with the influx of refugees, how they behave, what funds are allocated to them, that almost none of them wants to work, people and law enforcement agencies draw conclusions.
      And the ruling parties are guilty, they opened the borders.
      Greens, they are generally ready to host the whole world.
      I am not at all right, for me all nationalities are PEOPLE.
      Refugees, if they have already been accepted, must respect the laws and customs of the host country, but this is precisely what they do not do.
      Hence the discontent in society, the police and the army.
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 9 October 2020 14: 20
        -2
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        Nobody names the real reason for the surge of neo-Nazism in the army and police.
        Dia?
        ... were preparing a series of murders of volunteers involved in helping refugees. They also blamed the radicals for an attempted coup d'etat and the establishment of a regime in which there would no longer be a place for foreigners.
    4. Basil50
      Basil50 9 October 2020 08: 15
      0
      sailboat
      You are right the Nazis in Germany have always been near the authorities. They did not climb to the first places, but a career in the police-army-court-prisons-finance was open only to adherents of Nazism.
      The Germans today awaken resentment from the fact that they are in fact a US colony. Americans are not particularly shy about ordering the appointment of a president-prime minister in Germany. The Germans are offended by the fact that they seem to be * yubermensch * today, but are forced to fulfill the commands of the invaders. The Germans are also offended by foreign military bases with their * extraterritoriality * and the lack of jurisdiction of foreign military personnel.
      Apparently the Germans are preparing another * Reich * again, so there are those who sing songs praising the Nazis.
    5. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 9 October 2020 08: 30
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      And neo-Nazism in the Federal Republic of Germany did not die ... I have several books, by West German journalists, published in the USSR in the 70s and 80s, they are just about what the author writes about ...
      since the 80s, psychological tests were carried out using then new methods. It turned out that the figure of Hitler is present among some families (invisibly, of course)
    6. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 9 October 2020 11: 25
      +1
      I agree, especially if you consider that the post-war generation of Germans was brought up by fathers who had gone through the war in the Wehrmacht, the Waffen-SS, etc.

      Question: the article does not indicate, but there is information about the "actions" carried out by this society "Northern Cross" or "an underground group of SS fans" from the special forces?
      It seems to me that these are groups of men by interests (to shoot, draw plans to capture, dream about the past greatness of Germany).
      I believe that the level of passionarity of modern Germans is very low, in other words - apart from conversations and plans for these groups, as well as reasons for drinking, they did not appear for the future.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 9 October 2020 12: 51
        +1
        It turns out that the great-grandchildren of German soldiers, their generation turns to the past? Yes, somehow it turns out that after a few generations, ideas come back ...
        1. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 9 October 2020 14: 18
          +4
          These ideas are motivated by a desire for revenge based on a sense of national shame over defeat, humiliation from the occupation and payment of reparations.
          Doubt Nazi Germany 2.0 could emerge.
          Why?
          Firstly, after WWI the generation of "front-line soldiers" was still alive and capable.
          Secondly, during that period there were no ideas of multiculturalism and tolerance.
          Thirdly, the upbringing of German society in relation to youth was traditional: boys, defenders, earners; girls, future mothers, hearth keepers.
          Fourth, in the interwar period, in other words, German society was "hungry" (unemployment, inflation, reparation payments).
          Common ideas in times of crisis unite society.

          Modern Germany is relatively well-fed, tolerant, not courageous, individual, etc.

          In general, I doubt that "white Nazism" will emerge in modern Europe.
          But a religious one based on Islam is most likely possible ...
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 9 October 2020 14: 31
            +2
            ...... Modern Germany is relatively well-fed, tolerant, unmanly, individual, etc. ......,
            Time will tell? And if their life will somehow squeeze? One way or another? Or financially, or morally, come in large numbers? Well, interested who will appear?
            1. Lynx2000
              Lynx2000 9 October 2020 14: 52
              +1
              An interesting question. Time will tell...
              As in a joke:
              The circus, the tiger says to the lion:
              - I heard a new trainer appeared. How do you like it?
              - I don’t know yet. Let's chew, we'll see ...

              But, while some Germans are solving the above problems by moving to another country.
              In the bulk, someone adapts, someone tries not to notice such problems ...
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 9 October 2020 16: 30
                +2
                I read once that the protest potential of East Germans is higher. They are less prone to tolerance.
                Ps I will PM you in the evening hi ?
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 9 October 2020 05: 55
    +5
    The problem is invented. Fighting "right" with leftist extremists has been going on since the 70s. And now millions of refugees and "osterbayters" have come to "help" the latter. Even physically there will be no confrontation. “Cologne” has long shown - who is in charge in Germany.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 9 October 2020 06: 07
      +7
      you're not right. the new generation of Germans, as correctly indicated in the article, does not understand and does not feel what happened in the Second World War and the Second World War. they don't want to repent anymore. hear from Poland about reparations. begins what has long been predicted-revanchism. it could not be otherwise. all the losers go through this sooner or later. it's just too fast. not even 100 years have passed. 20 years from now, the most popular leaders will be the right. those who call to stop repenting. the blessing for them is that it has become extremely popular in the world to rewrite history to shift the blame on the USSR and Stalin. I assure you that in 20 years only in Russia will they remember what we passed then and that we won. the rest of the world will count differently. now there are only flowers in this regard.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 9 October 2020 07: 14
        24
        Nationalism is neither bad nor good. This is a natural reaction of people to events that are perceived as a threat to the integrity of the people and their cultural values. What threat is not corrected by the authorities. It's like the white blood cells in the body. Yes - fever, pus, sore - but in case of illness, no one prescribes a medicine for leukocytes? The infection is treated, not theirs. For without them - the body will immediately bend. And their accelerated production is a normal immune response. On the contrary, if they are not produced, then soon kirdyk ..

        It is the same with the people - it is necessary to fight not against nationalism, but against the reasons that cause it. Which are perceived by the locals as an infection. And if nationalism does not arise in response to the dominance of alien aliens, then this nation will soon disappear into oblivion .. Tolerance and the type of multiculturalism is a people's grave .. So it looks like the Germans are still alive .. For now. We did not manage to finish them off completely. And the German authorities should think about what and why they are doing in national politics. However - like ours ..
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 9 October 2020 07: 49
          +4
          Nationalism is neither bad nor good. This is a natural reaction of people to events that are perceived as a threat to the integrity of the people and their cultural values.

          I agree.
          I am absolutely neutral towards other nationalities. However, sometimes, going to work in your country, you feel like you are superfluous in a crowd of people who speak a different language, dress and think differently than you do. And the day is not far off when you begin to interfere with them. Nationalism and fascism are different things. But sometimes the path is not far from one to the other. And why is this happening, because the situation in the country is radically changing and changing people. It is already impossible to re-educate me and convince me that I do not accept. And it is much easier to convince young people and set them up in an extremely nationalistic way.
          Ardent nationalists were and are in any country, but they raise their heads and gain popularity only when there are big problems in the state.
          1. Evil543
            Evil543 9 October 2020 08: 04
            12
            We expect the same; our people are no less tired of migrants than in Europe. Although ours work
          2. paul3390
            paul3390 9 October 2020 08: 07
            12
            In general, having pro-communist views, I am an internationalist, in general, I have a rather positive attitude towards almost all peoples. But - as long as they live in their house, and do not move to mine, and without asking. This is where my internationalism ends immediately. By the way - the Soviet government, with all the real friendship of the peoples, tightly controlled the migration processes in the USSR, preventing mass invasions of the inhabitants of auls and villages into our cities and villages. Clearly understanding how this could turn out. Unlike the nonesh bourgeoisie, who can't even look beyond the momentary dough because of greed.
          3. paul3390
            paul3390 9 October 2020 08: 15
            +2
            Nationalism and fascism are different things.

            Nazism and fascism - too .. For fascism is in Italy, but I don’t remember that the Duce especially pedalized the theme of the superiority of the Italian nation, counting everyone else as subhuman .. Yes, it would have looked just ridiculous, Italians - and like ubermenshi .. laughing
            1. DNS-a42
              DNS-a42 9 October 2020 12: 01
              +1
              Quote: paul3390
              Nazism and fascism too ..

              Nazism is a kind of fascism.

              Quote: paul3390
              but I don’t remember that Duce especially pedalized the theme of the superiority of the Italian nation

              His words: "I became a racist back in 1921. Some people think that I am trying to imitate Hitler on this issue, but this is not so. Italians must respect their race."
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 9 October 2020 10: 39
          +1
          However - like ours ..

          I agree about the Germans, but with "ours" it is more and more difficult - they are no longer ours.
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 9 October 2020 15: 31
        0
        Quote: carstorm 11
        begins what has long been predicted-revanchism.
        This is more likely not revanchism, but simply self-defense.
        It is not for nothing that Germany was dammed up with refugees, Poland was let loose with their requests as if not into itself.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 9 October 2020 06: 15
      +6
      And now millions of refugees and "osterbayters" have come to "help" the latter
      ... From the late 60s to the mid 80s, about 3 million Turks were "imported" to the FRG.
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 9 October 2020 06: 50
        +6
        Quote: parusnik
        ... From the late 60s to the mid 80s, about 3 million Turks were "imported" to the FRG.

        They, Germany, not without difficulty and jambs, somehow "digested", albeit relatively, but managed to socialize with grief in half. Fortunately, then, from the 60s to the 90s, in the FRG he was, as an example, less tolerant to manifestations of radicalism than now.
        Therefore, the almost uncontrolled arrival new parties from "refugees" to the country, this is a much more dangerous problem than it used to be ...
        1. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 9 October 2020 08: 03
          -10 qualifying.
          Quote: BDRM 667
          Somehow, Germany, not without difficulty and stocks, somehow "digested", albeit relatively, but managed to socialize with grief in half

          Well, actually there are two big differences. The Turks mainly came in the 50s and helped rebuild Germany. They have the same rights to it as the Germans, their contribution to the "German miracle" is beyond doubt. Most nationalists are quite positive about the Turks of the post-war wave, they are Germans of Turkish origin.

          Another thing is people who have come running in recent decades. We ran into the finished product. These include, by the way, the Soviet Germans, who arrived in huge numbers back in the 90s, and from whom regrettably little benefit. And even, to some extent, the entire GDR as a whole - their work in today's Germany is not, these are freeloaders. So Merkel is much less German than many ethnic Turks.
          1. lucul
            lucul 9 October 2020 11: 43
            +1
            The Turks mainly came in the 50s and helped rebuild Germany. They have the same rights to it as the Germans, their contribution to the "German miracle" is beyond doubt. Most nationalists are quite positive about the Turks of the post-war wave, they are Germans of Turkish origin.

            So the Palestinians have no less rights to Jerusalem than the Jews - after all, they have lived there for the last 2000 years, after the Romans gave them this land.
            But for some reason they are being evicted from their lands, where they lived before that for 2 years ...
            Do you know why?
            1. Cherry Nine
              Cherry Nine 9 October 2020 12: 45
              +1
              It's not about "rights", but about earned money. The Palestinians integrated into Israeli society have no problems, and Israeli Arab Christians are generally richer and better educated than Jews on average. And they don't mind being in Israel, not Jordan, Syria, or Lebanon. A distinction should be made between the labor force and the so-called refugees (from Austria).
        2. Simargl
          Simargl 9 October 2020 15: 33
          +1
          Quote: BDRM 667
          They, Germany, not without difficulty and jambs, somehow "digested", albeit relatively, but managed to socialize with grief in half.
          There is a very big difference: those Turks went to work, they were ready to socialize, and the refugees came for a freebie!
    3. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 9 October 2020 06: 41
      11
      Quote: samarin1969
      The problem is invented.

      Problem exists yes And the degree of radicalization of the parties will only grow in proportion to the deepening contradictions in society and the inability of the federal authorities to resolve them.
      Moreover, the central government of the FRG itself adopted a number of decisions that radically aggravated the problems of the state.
      First of all, we are of course talking about the import of migrants in rash quantities ...
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 9 October 2020 07: 22
        11
        If it were only a problem of the FRG .. After all, alas - our authorities are doing exactly the same thing. Bringing in millions of former fellows in reason .. And then they are outraged, talking about such a terrible Great Russian foshyzm ..
    4. SARANCHA1976
      SARANCHA1976 9 October 2020 07: 40
      +2
      Jews thought so too
  4. polar fox
    polar fox 9 October 2020 05: 57
    14
    Well, after "nights of love" from "refugees" many Germans do not like newcomers ... in Russia the same way: the more crimes committed by migrants, the angrier the people.
  5. FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 9 October 2020 06: 05
    10
    I think that detente in German society is not far off. Liberal ideas about universal equality and tolerance towards other religions and cultures have already failed. Nobody wants to see Muslims, usually unwilling to socialize, as neighbors. And the idea of ​​throwing them out to their historical homeland will take up in a couple of generations (25-50 years).
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 9 October 2020 08: 26
      11
      In this sense, Australia is great, their prime minister, clearly told the migrants: "If our values ​​are not yours, if you want to live in a country ruled by Sharia law, or in a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you and you can go to another country is probably the best option. " https://regnum.ru/news/713774.html
    2. Simargl
      Simargl 9 October 2020 15: 35
      -1
      Quote: FRoman1984
      I think that detente in German society is not far off.
      As long as the United States rules the ball there with its bases, they can only sob angrily under the covers or yelp at Russia, for example.
  6. Olgovich
    Olgovich 9 October 2020 06: 14
    13
    In 2017, the main opposition party in the Bundestag was "Alternative for Germany" - a typical extreme right the consignment.

    Complete nonsense is the usual party of ordinary Germans trying to preserve Germany, which is common and familiar to them and to the whole world, traditional family values, traditional holidays, traditional moral and ethical norms.

    The third largest faction in the Bundestag.

    ADG is friendly to Russia: they are demonstrations with Russian fleas in the east of Germany.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 9 October 2020 10: 31
      +7
      Quote: Olgovich
      trying to preserve Germany, common and familiar to them and to the whole world, traditional family values, traditional holidays, traditional moral and ethical standards.
      The problem is that now the liberals consider all this almost extremism.
  7. Catfish
    Catfish 9 October 2020 06: 24
    15
    There is nothing surprising in this. Governments, and not only in Germany, have put on the neck of their peoples useless migrants with a religion and culture alien to Europeans, and who also behave according to the principle "put a pig at the table, she and her feet on the table." One can only be surprised that in Germany until now they have not been staged "Night of the Long Knives" anywhere, but, apparently, this is not far off. For it is impossible to humiliate people in their own country like that. And the brown or red ones will start beating dust out of the liberals, I think the Germans don't care at all.
    Yes, but the most real rebuff to all this riffraff comes from former citizens of the GDR, their upbringing is somewhat different.
    By the way, the Norwegian Anders Breivik was the first to try to draw attention to this problem, by a method, of course, more than radical, but quite effective. Unfortunately, like many prophets, he came too early ...
    Finally, a small illustration of life in a tolerant Europe:

    Well, how can you live like that ?!
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 10 October 2020 15: 40
      +1
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Norwegian Anders Breivik was the first to try to draw attention to this problem, by a method, of course, more than radical, but quite effective. Unfortunately, like many prophets, he came too early ...


      Prophet with explosive bullets.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 10 October 2020 15: 59
        0
        And what, there were also explosive? Or maybe only expansive ones? Breakaways seem to have been banned for a long time and are not produced. If you have information - share it. hi
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 10 October 2020 16: 01
          0
          Oh, well, yes ... if the bullets are just expansive, that changes everything. Prophet with expansive bullets.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 10 October 2020 16: 03
            0
            In fact, this does not change anything, it changes the attitude towards you as a source of possible information.
            1. The eye of the crying
              The eye of the crying 10 October 2020 16: 05
              0
              Quote: Sea Cat
              As a matter of fact, this does not change anything,


              Well, fine. Obviously, a prophet with expansive bullets is no better than a prophet with explosive bullets.

              Quote: Sea Cat
              this changes the attitude towards you as a source of possible information.


              I can handle it.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 10 October 2020 16: 28
                0
                I can handle it.

                No doubt. laughing
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 October 2020 06: 25
    +5
    The ultra-right infiltrates the power structures of Germany
    They were surprised. This has been happening for a long time and not all cases are made public. The question immediately arises - why the Baltic states, Ukraine can praise the accomplices of fascism, erect monuments to them with the tacit consent of Europe (read also Germany), and those whose ancestors accumulated it and elevated it practically into religion cannot. They themselves gave birth, they themselves turn a blind eye to it today, and tomorrow wake up in a new fascist society. Today in Germany, some "politicians" from different federal states have suddenly sounded calls to expel Russia from the UN Security Council. What is this if not an attempt at revenge?
  9. nnm
    nnm 9 October 2020 06: 31
    +6
    At the beginning of the article, the author briefly mentioned the ADG party - "Alternative for Germany", but it seems that it is she who is now at the forefront of the German right-wing movement. Initially gaining popularity in the eastern lands, in the last elections she took a significant number in the Landstags and the western lands of Germany, which was a shock to the ruling coalition. In addition, she secured herself a serious representation in the Bundestag and entered the European Parliament. And all this against the backdrop of the collapse of the CDU / CSU. Yes, the ADG is clearly a right-wing party, but whether it can be classified as a Nazi is a big question. In fact, her rise in popularity is due to the failures of the ruling party in relation to migrant issues, and the official goals are far from the brown vector. However, with the growing demand of German society for radicalization, with the aggravation of the migration problem, a decrease in the rate of economic growth (including with the abandonment of sp2), with the preservation of vassal relations with the United States (and in Germany this issue was always perceived very painfully in society, in contrast to political elites), the ADG may well go beyond the legal framework and become a center of attraction for nationalist forces. And then, indeed, we do not recognize the political field of Germany. Although, more precisely, we recognize him in the form in which we would least like to see him again.
    But, I think, it depends precisely on the issue of the authorities' readiness for decisions aimed specifically at the country's political and economic sovereignty. And the current leadership cannot decide on this, in fact, having thrust its head into the sand. What's in the issue of migration, what's in the issue of sp-2 ...
  10. alpamys
    alpamys 9 October 2020 08: 20
    +7
    In 2017, the main opposition party in the Bundestag was the Alternative for Germany, a typical extreme right-wing party.


    a lie article, normal adequate people there, who want to live not among babays under the cries of mullahs, but according to the laws of their ancestors.
  11. Alien From
    Alien From 9 October 2020 08: 33
    0
    The brown plague of the twenty-first century began to stir.
  12. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 9 October 2020 08: 44
    0
    The time will come and the bourgeoisie will release the neo-Nazi dog from the leash ... It was already ...
  13. Cherry Nine
    Cherry Nine 9 October 2020 08: 55
    +1
    Now for some realism.

    For starters, right-left. The right center is Adenauer-Ernhard, the right ones are to the right of him. The left center is Schumacher, the left is to the left of him.

    Further, what we see in today's Germany. Where is Merkel located? Decrease in national sovereignty, constant growth of economic regulation, frankly insane immigration policy. What of this can be imagined as performed by Adenauer? Only a pro-EU course, but in those days a united Europe was an anti-Soviet defensive alliance. Played by Schumacher? Only state regulation in the spirit of northern European countries. Neither the priority of national sovereignty, nor the idea of ​​Germany as a state of Germans raised any questions from Schumacher. Where is Merkel located? To the left of both of them.

    Who else is there? SPD - the leftist CDU pushed them against the wall. FDP? Lost in their own political platform. Left? Open Marxists. Green? In the literal sense, the leaders of Paris 68. AfD? It all started well, under Luke it seemed that it smelled like Thatcherism. But at Merkel's all red traffic lights went on, all sirens went off. There cannot be a party to the right of Merkel in Germany. And what happened to AfD? I left in the direction of Rogozin-Zhirinovsky, instead of the conditional Reagan we see the level of the conditional Trump.

    The bottom line? The Bundestag is controlled by the left, who pretends to be the center, as the left - the Marxists, as the right - the jesters. What is the government doing in this case? Catching "right-wing extremists infiltrated into power structures." This is lousy news. Somehow everything goes to the fact that it was not the FRG that annexed the GDR, but the GDR that annexed the FRG.
  14. Hagen
    Hagen 9 October 2020 09: 03
    0
    When there is a reason to "be friends" against someone, it is always easier to find like-minded people.

    The German government itself is strikingly riveting that segment of the "untouchable" against which more and more ordinary people will strive to be friends. If migrants do all sorts of obscenities with the population with the indifference of the state, then people will strive to find protection for themselves outside state institutions. The Wehrmacht and the "browns" are an element of German history that cannot be eradicated by any forces. And if they lead the fight for the safety of Germans from migrants, they will receive serious support from the population. It is surprising that the political ruling elite does not see this evidence. Apparently she is counting on the traditional German law-abidingness. But something can "go wrong".
  15. engineer74
    engineer74 9 October 2020 09: 11
    +8
    Here is no need for healthy patriotism (Alternative for Germany) to interfere with fascism and some kind of "SS" clowns stop
    IMHO
    1. Motorist
      Motorist 9 October 2020 22: 17
      +1
      Quote: engineer74
      Here is no need for healthy patriotism (Alternative for Germany) to interfere with fascism and some kind of "SS" clowns

      Engineer74, I completely agree with your IMHO. Below I gave a link to their program, so as not to be unfounded.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 10 October 2020 10: 19
        +1
        Thank you! hi
        I didn't know what it was in Russian either.
  16. iouris
    iouris 9 October 2020 11: 14
    0
    Masses of migrants were not just launched in the FRG, but for the cultivation of Nazism. The newest version of Nazism in Germany will be high-tech. All the economic problems of the Germans will be solved radically and quickly. You don't have to draw signs on the doors with chalk.
  17. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 9 October 2020 11: 25
    +1
    The third or already the fourth article, representing the same news and discussions starting from May 2020.
  18. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 9 October 2020 11: 38
    0
    The turning point in the history of German pacifism was the 90s

    Do you recognize?
  19. 9 Shaft
    9 Shaft 9 October 2020 12: 34
    +1
    And what is there to be surprised at, if neo-Nazism crept out in / in Ukraine, then in Germany it did not disappear at all. Everything was slightly veiled, and even from consciousness (if it is passed from mouth to mouth in the family, family archives ..., yes, in general) it is not knocked out - the Germans were well processed by propaganda. Multiculture has also borne fruit (like the other side of the coin). On the one hand, this could be understood as a protest against migrants, only an interesting form - neo-Nazism, and this is already serious.
  20. Zum
    Zum 9 October 2020 13: 02
    +3
    Everything is simple and understandable ..... the titular nation wants to be such, not formally .... but in reality ..... In Russia this question has long been acute ..... about the titular nation ..... Russians. ............ which are not such in modern Russia !!!
  21. Goblin_1974
    Goblin_1974 9 October 2020 13: 27
    +2
    Kindergarten, junior group, chesslovo. Exchange in whatsapp, throw a party. No brains, no fantasy.
    1. Jager
      Jager 9 October 2020 18: 10
      0
      Recently I saw an advertisement for RNE on the social network. I thought that these marginals, like the National Bolsheviks, had long disappeared, but it turns out not, they are developing.
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  23. Ela myaushkina
    Ela myaushkina 9 October 2020 13: 58
    0
    This will not end well for Germany. Of course, in the perspective of multiculturalism, changes and a rollback to the past await it, similar to that in Germany in the 20s and 30s of the last century, due to the influx of migrants and guests of color, but in any case, Nazism, nationalism, racism, chauvinism, xenophobia, radical patriotism, praise and the rise, protection of the titular nation, and an attempt to create a mono-ethnic stratum of the titular nation for the whole country with the expulsion of all who do not belong to it, it is very dangerous and inhuman, bad in any form, and threatens the collapse and split of the country, and anyone who goes along this way. Hitlerite Germany and the Third Reich, an example. And everyone knows what this led to. We do not take Japan as an example, this is a completely different story, where everything has developed this way due to the historical and cultural characteristics of Japan and its mono-ethnic composition over the centuries, which have only benefited it and where it simply could not be otherwise.
    1. Konstantin Vorontsov
      Konstantin Vorontsov 11 October 2020 00: 52
      0
      And Hitler's Germany and the Reich lll are not the same thing? And the collapse of the Reich is not connected with its essence, but was the result of a poorly thought-out foreign policy and an appetite that did not correspond to the size of the body. What happened in Deutschland since 1933 was very popular with the overwhelming most of the Hans and Gertrudes. And nowhere has gone far from their brains to this day. However, not only from their brains, but even from the brains of some individuals racially inferior according to the "teachings" of Rosenberg's partigenosse. And Aloizovich himself ...
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  25. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 9 October 2020 14: 34
    0
    German society took a long and painful time to get rid of the Nazi legacy
    funny, especially when you consider the leadership of the FRG of the 50-60s
  26. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 9 October 2020 14: 36
    +3
    One of the triggers of German sympathy for right-wing ideas was, of course, the migrants who filled the country. The need for constant economic growth, cheap labor and low birth rates of ethnic Germans have led to the emergence of a large stratum of workers from the Third World.

    Yes, yes, yes, evil Nazis oppress peaceful workers who came to Germany to help raise the economy. smile
    Comrade Fedorov is simplifying.
    It's not about migrant workers. The right-wing idea is being revived through the efforts of another category of migrants - the so-called "refugees". These are also migrants, but they do not officially work anywhere, they live on welfare (that is, at the expense of the Germans), and most importantly, they continue to live like in their homeland, and even actively impose their culture on the surrounding indigenous people. You put him at the table - and he and your feet on the table.
    An additional impetus to the right-wing idea is given by the fact that the current German state cannot officially oppose this "cultural expansion" - any attempts to introduce rabies in some framework, they immediately turn into accusations of racism, Nazism and following Hitler's ideaswhich are happily picked up by the leftists.
  27. Aleksandr56478
    Aleksandr56478 9 October 2020 15: 05
    +2
    The author of this article (judging by his conclusions from the title) most likely did not live in Western Europe, and therefore confuses the causal relationships of this situation. The reason for this phenomenon as neo-Nazism lies not in the imperial past (well, what kind of imperial past associated with racial superiority, for example, can the Swedes have?), But in the stupid migration policy of the left-liberal governments of these states. The dominance of migrants from the Middle East, who do not plan to assimilate with native Europeans (and at the same time seriously increase the crime rate, imposing their own patterns of life (for example, building minarets and calling for prayer in the morning, some Sharia patrols, etc.) )) provokes the locals to become adherents of right-wing radical views with groaning "how good our life was when there were no migrants." Migrants have turned the life of "herbivorous" liberal Europeans into a living hell. It should be borne in mind that in recent Yeltsin's Russia there was the same tendency for an increase in the number of neo-Nazi cells (RNE, NSO, Format18, etc., now prohibited in the Russian Federation) and the reason was not some imperialism, but the banal limitlessness that was happening on the part of visitors that time. No, I do not exclude that there are also obvious admirers and lovers of the Third Reich and the Austrian artist, but there are a minority of them. Oh, yes))) I almost forgot lol The Alternative for Germany party is run by lesbian woman, which to Nazism (both the woman and the party lol ) has the same relation as I do to ballet, where sore topics related to migration policy are brought up on the agenda. And in general in Europe it is no longer fashionable to be a white, fair-haired heterosexual man (type in "happy white woman" in Google and you will be given a set of pictures with "priorities" for the white indigenous population, white men will naturally outrage this approach). So there is a problem of neo-Nazism, but its ears grow from a completely different side than the author of the article voiced. hi
  28. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 9 October 2020 15: 08
    +2
    In 2017, the main opposition party in the Bundestag was the Alternative for Germany, a typical extreme right-wing party.
    and the author could not explain the idea of ​​what is ultra-right?
  29. NF68
    NF68 9 October 2020 16: 23
    0
    They were always there. They just behaved quieter and tried not to notice them.
  30. Schekn Irtch
    Schekn Irtch 9 October 2020 17: 30
    +2
    Nazism is like the so-called. Islamists. What is their difference from other Muslims and by what principle to divide them, I do not understand. Rave! Nazism is actually nationalism in its purest form. It's just that the good ones have scouts, and the bad ones have spies. Nazism (nationalism) is an alternative to the rotten, under external control, imposed as the only true option of existence, democracy. Sane people, I think, understand that there is nothing shameful in the prevalence and lobbying of the interests of their own people (see the amendments to our Constitution) over the interests of external political and financial dictators. Besides, how else to raise national self-awareness? Where is the other acceptable pivot? We are "eroded", systematically forced to forget what constitutes the essence of national pride - the history of a great country! Real democracy, built on the principles of the prevalence of national (popular) interests over the interests of globalists (that is, the same Nazism = nationalism) is the very notorious national idea, which our powers-that-be are afraid of like hell. The Germans, as always, realized this faster, and God willing, they are sanitizing their country again and with no less efficiency.
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 10 October 2020 15: 50
      0
      Quote: Shchekn Irtch
      Nazism is actually nationalism in its purest form.


      This is, of course, an outright lie. Nationalism does not imply the destruction of other peoples, Nazism meant and practiced.
      1. Schekn Irtch
        Schekn Irtch 28 October 2020 22: 27
        0
        And there - and there squeezing out, the creation of the title of one nation over others, and destruction all sinned in one form or another, when hegemonized. So I'm not lying, but you.
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 29 October 2020 00: 15
          0
          Quote: Shchekn Irtch
          the creation of the title of one nation over others


          You don't understand the words you are using.
  31. Jager
    Jager 9 October 2020 18: 08
    +2
    Directly quote from the movie "Shirley-Myrli":
    "No, of course, I'm not a Nazi ... But I don't like blacks."
    What to look at Germany, the USA or France, when even our North is gradually filling up with "bearded friends", especially in the oil-bearing regions of the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug.
    In Moscow, in general, there are whole enclaves of illegal immigrants many thousands.
  32. saygon66
    saygon66 9 October 2020 18: 49
    +1
    - request The Nazis are bad, the migrants are good ... or vice versa ... Who is the ist shaise? I didn't understand the author's attitude to the problem. No.
  33. Motorist
    Motorist 9 October 2020 21: 49
    0
    In 2017, the main opposition party in the Bundestag was the Alternative for Germany, a typical extreme right-wing party. Before that, there were years of relative calm among the ideological heirs of German nationalism.

    The author dragged AfD to this, having read, apparently, the truthful German press. I give below a link to their program (in Russian); whoever finds Nazism there - half!

    https://www.afd.de/wp-content/uploads/sites/111/2017/04/2017-04-18_afd-grundsatzprogramm_russisch_web.pdf
  34. Oleg Kievlyanin
    Oleg Kievlyanin 9 October 2020 22: 29
    0
    Crowds of Arabs just got them
  35. Konstantin Vorontsov
    Konstantin Vorontsov 10 October 2020 01: 52
    -1
    Aloizovich at one time made the Hans (and not only) a powerful "inoculation" like "Hubert Alles" from "democracy" and other similar chimeras, which, apparently, forever. antibodies of that "inoculation". Judging by the military history of the Hans, "the Wehrmacht and the SS" are their normal state. There is nothing to be surprised at - the "feeling of guilt" has been implanted especially in the last 30-35 years. If you take the Soviet press of the 50-70s. ps, then there are a lot of publications about the "revanchism" that has been powerfully seething in West Germany since its inception, where the same Nazis ruled. The so-called "denazification" carried out at one time mainly affected the awards of the "denazified" from which Nazi symbols were removed. From the brain brain, those "significant" 12 years did not work and will not work. Apparently, because what is happening in Europe is great revives those nostalgic times in the still dormant brains of the "Aryans" and encourages a renaissance still some of Siegfried's descendants ...
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 10 October 2020 15: 58
      0
      Quote: Konstantin Vorontsov
      Aloizovich at one time made the Hans (and not only) a powerful "inoculation" like "Hubert Alles" from "democracy" and other similar chimeras, which, apparently, forever.


      Aloizovich proved to be a failure here too. For the past 70 years, democracy has reigned in Germany and there is no end to its revelry smile
      1. Konstantin Vorontsov
        Konstantin Vorontsov 11 October 2020 01: 09
        0
        Any democracy is a harbinger or breeding ground of Nazism, racism, antagonism or something similar. The masses of people understand the meaning of democracy in different ways or do not understand it at all. But often democracy is associated with permissiveness, which leads to the awakening of base feelings and desires among the Sapiens. So, about "Loser Aloizovich" you are very excited ...