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NKR announced the first use of attack helicopters by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces

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NKR announced the first use of attack helicopters by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces

From the zone of the Armenian-Azerbaijani armed conflict, statements are received that for the first time during the acute phase of renewed clashes, one of the sides used attack helicopters. Representatives of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) say that the Azerbaijani Air Force has used Mi-35M helicopters in the conflict zone.


From the summary:

Azerbaijan has started to use attack helicopters in military operations in Nagorno-Karabakh.

It is alleged that the Mi-35M of the Air Force of Azerbaijan fired on the territory of the NKR uncontrollably aviation rockets. Attack helicopters Mi-24 were also used.



For reference: the base model for the Mi-35 is also one of the modifications of the Mi-24 - Mi-24V / VP.

According to the latest information, there are at least 20 transport-combat Mi-35Ms in the Azerbaijani Air Force today.

It is stated that the Azerbaijani army uses attack helicopters along with drones. The most frequently used UAVs of Turkish production "Bayraktar" are used in the sky.

The Mi-35M helicopter has a maximum take-off weight of 11,5 tons, a carrying capacity of 2,4 tons, a maximum flight speed of 310 km / h, a practical range of 435 km, armament: 23-mm GSh-23L air cannon, NURS, anti-tank and anti-aircraft guided missiles.
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  1. K-612-O
    K-612-O 5 October 2020 09: 37
    +8
    Well, about this yesterday the Syrian abrek filmed the vidos, and the TG channels SNA happily posted.
    https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/43620
  2. dgonni
    dgonni 5 October 2020 09: 40
    19
    This means that the air defense is already over.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 5 October 2020 09: 53
      11
      Quote: dgonni
      This means that the air defense is already over.

      I thought about it too, but they should have
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 5 October 2020 09: 58
        +5
        Willows, Needles are in abundance, but 35 is also difficult to fill up.
    2. taiga2018
      taiga2018 5 October 2020 09: 56
      12
      Quote: dgonni
      This means that the air defense is already over.

      Or drones ...
    3. loki565
      loki565 5 October 2020 10: 21
      +7
      I wonder why it is so lupanuli, similar to cluster munitions? There are specialists, what do you think it is?
      1. Foul skeptic
        Foul skeptic 5 October 2020 10: 36
        +6
        Probably fragmentation BE 9N235. They are equipped, among other things, with a 9M55K Smerch rocket with a 9N139 cluster warhead.
      2. figwam
        figwam 5 October 2020 12: 17
        +7
        Quote: loki565
        I wonder why it was so thumped,

        It looks like a cluster munition, hitting the city like that is of course a scribe.
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 5 October 2020 15: 04
        +2
        They seem to be ...
    4. Alexey from Perm
      Alexey from Perm 5 October 2020 11: 03
      +2
      It could not but end after so many destroyed air defense systems by drones.
    5. svp67
      svp67 5 October 2020 14: 58
      +2
      Quote: dgonni
      This means that the air defense is already over.

      Let's just say that at the military level it is strongly suppressed and the system is destroyed ... so it's time for army aviation
  3. Alena-Baku
    Alena-Baku 5 October 2020 09: 41
    -30 qualifying.
    in Armenia there is talk of Pashinyan's escape.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 5 October 2020 09: 43
      10
      It would be nice if this clown would ruin the country.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 October 2020 09: 48
      26
      Quote: Alena-Baku
      in Armenia there is talk of Pashinyan's escape.

      In Transcaucasia, something unimaginable is happening, in Azerbaijan they say that Turkish special forces have removed President Aliyev from the leadership of the country, and all power in the republic has passed to Turkey ...

      It's true ?
      1. Alena-Baku
        Alena-Baku 5 October 2020 10: 02
        -15 qualifying.
        It is unlikely that in Azerbaijan, from the right and from the left, all of Prince Kalava.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 October 2020 10: 03
          21
          Quote: Alena-Baku
          Hardly in Azerbaijan, from the right and from the left, all the prince of the Ditch.

          How can this be translated into Russian?
          1. Alena-Baku
            Alena-Baku 5 October 2020 13: 12
            -2
            read puss in boots in Russian or google, here all Aliyev.
      2. Bakinec
        Bakinec 5 October 2020 10: 15
        +8
        Lord! That the Armenians are not inventing to drag Russia into this conflict. Well, Russia will not interfere. Azerbaijan is fighting on its territory. Azerbaijan completely broke the resistance and are already liberating the cities (yesterday they liberated Jabrail) are moving on. Yesterday Aliyev said everything that is needed, now let your Pashinyan scratch his turnips - what to do. Well, you didn't live quietly - you would have endless negotiations, well, no, you had to appear, show off - they say, Karabakh is Armenia, we won't give up any regions, we will populate the territories with Syrian, Lebanese Armenians - now beg Putin and Macron to stop Baku.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 October 2020 10: 18
          +3
          Quote: Bakinec
          Yesterday Aliyev said everything you need


          Explain the situation, because based on the information, Aliyev is acting under duress ...

          Quote: Alena-Baku
          in Armenia there is talk of Pashinyan's escape.



          Quote: Insurgent
          In Transcaucasia, something unimaginable is happening, in Azerbaijan they say that Turkish special forces have removed President Aliyev from the leadership of the country, and all power in the republic has passed to Turkey ...
          1. Bakinec
            Bakinec 5 October 2020 10: 25
            -2
            Here you go:

            “In the negotiations, the main and encouraging factor for us was the gradual return of the occupied territories to Azerbaijan. We agreed that the lands should be returned in stages by peaceful means. At the first stage, they would return five regions, at the second, two more regions, and then the Azerbaijanis will return to Nagorno-Karabakh, to Shusha, after which the Azerbaijani and Armenian peoples would live together as they once did. This is a fair position that complies with all norms of international law. We wanted it and we had the right to it. " As reported by AzerTAj, this was stated by the President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev in his address to the nation.


            Ilham Aliyev
            “But what did we see? They saw that they wanted to break the will. We saw that a new war was being opened against us, they were threatening us with a new war. I have repeatedly told the co-chairs of the Minsk Group, other international organizations, and representatives of the European Union to influence Armenia, impose sanctions and exert pressure. You can not do it this way. If there is no strong impact, then Armenia will become even more insolent, will set new conditions. They didn't hear me. I wanted this issue to be resolved peacefully. Have not heard. Did you think that the Azerbaijani people and I, the President of Azerbaijan, will accept this situation? Did you think that our holy city of Shusha will remain under the heel of the Armenians and I will accept it? Should we negotiate with the Armenian executioners who dealt a blow to the history of the Azerbaijani people? The people of Azerbaijan were insulted, the head of the separatist regime held an "inauguration" in Shusha. Let's see where he will now hold the inauguration ceremony. He will hold a mourning event. Now he ran away, hid like a mouse. Let it come out.

            The Prime Minister of Armenia walks and dances in Shusha and Jydyr Duzyu. Does he think we're okay with it? He's wrong. We will never accept this. What does the transfer of the parliament of the separatist "Nagorno-Karabakh Republic" to Shusha mean? Another attempt to offend the Azerbaijani people. What does the construction of a new road from Armenia to Jebrail mean? This meant that illegal settlement would be carried out there. They bring Armenians from Lebanon and other places and settle them in our ancient city of Shusha. They show them on TV, violate international conventions. They trampled on the Geneva Convention. Does anyone tell them something? I have instructed all our foreign diplomatic bodies to raise the issue at the UN, OSCE, European Union and other organizations, so that they point out the illegal nature. Illegal settlement is a crime. Was there a reaction to this? Did the Minsk Group come up with any statement? She did not speak. And the European Union? He did not speak. They said that they were not interested. If they were not interested in this, then even today they are not interested. Libel is put forward against Azerbaijan, some countries, European countries accuse us. Let them look in the mirror. Nagorno-Karabakh is ours, this is our land, we must return there and we will return, ”he said.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 October 2020 10: 27
              +2
              Quote: Bakinec
              Here you go:

              What is it ? Where is the confirmation that Aliyev remained the independent leader of Azerbaijan and is not acting under the compulsion of Turkey?

              That's what I asked for ...
              1. Bakinec
                Bakinec 5 October 2020 10: 54
                -17 qualifying.
                Ara, yes, yes, Azerbaijan was captured by the Turks, f16 bombed Yerevan, Syrian militants set up Sharia law. Russia helpiiiiiiiiii !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 5 October 2020 10: 56
                  +4
                  Quote: Bakinec
                  Russia helpiiiiiiiiii !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  No problem No. Prepare a formal appeal for help.
                  1. Bakinec
                    Bakinec 5 October 2020 11: 03
                    -11 qualifying.
                    Write about this to your Pashinyan.
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 5 October 2020 11: 05
                      12
                      Quote: Bakinec
                      Write about this to your Pashinyan.

                      Why on earth would I write Pashinyan ? belay We his Pushilin.
                      1. Bakinec
                        Bakinec 5 October 2020 11: 09
                        -9
                        There are too many Armenians on this site who write all sorts of nasty things about Azerbaijan and want to raise the Russians against the Azerbaijanis.
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 5 October 2020 11: 12
                        +7
                        Quote: Bakinec
                        There are too many Armenians on this site who write all sorts of nasty things about Azerbaijan and want to raise the Russians against the Azerbaijanis.


                        Maximum for this you did it yourself, calling on the Turks as allies and condoning the appearance of terrorists from the SAR in the Transcaucasus.
                      3. Bakinec
                        Bakinec 5 October 2020 11: 21
                        -13 qualifying.
                        This is in your wet Armenian fantasies.
                      4. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 5 October 2020 11: 23
                        10
                        Quote: Bakinec
                        This is in your wet Armenian fantasies.


                        Are they so limited that you don't understand that the DPR is clearly not Armenia, and, accordingly, I am never an Armenian?
                      5. Bakinec
                        Bakinec 5 October 2020 11: 27
                        -6
                        Armenians cannot live in the DPR or what?
                      6. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 5 October 2020 11: 32
                        14
                        Quote: Bakinec
                        Armenians cannot live in the DPR or what?


                        Moreover, they live alongside Azerbaijanis, living together peacefully.
                        At least for the time being, until some undersultan-Erdogashka begins to muddy the waters like in Azerbaijan ...
                        It is only you, "on the machine" (from a great mind?) Are able to "transform" a Ukrainian into an Armenian wassat
                        Quote: Bakinec
                        This is in your wet Armenian fantasies.
                      7. DED_peer_DED
                        DED_peer_DED 5 October 2020 16: 09
                        -7
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        It is only you, "on the machine" (from a great mind?) Are able to "transform" a Ukrainian into an Armenian

                2. AndreyS
                  AndreyS 5 October 2020 14: 34
                  0
                  Quote: Bakinec
                  This is in your wet Armenian fantasies.

                  Well, why dear not only))) "...According to Sky News Arabia, several dozen air flights were carried out between Turkey and Azerbaijan. The Turkish side transported mercenaries with these planes, the Pentagon said.
                  'Information from legal social network https: //www.9111.ru was used' ... "
                  "...Confirmation of the transfer of hundreds of militants from Syria to Azerbaijan has been received from an official representative of the US Department of Defense, Sky News Arabia reported on October 1 on its Twitter account.
                  “Reports and information about dozens of flights between Turkey and Azerbaijan in the past few days to transport hundreds of Syrian militants have been confirmed and correct,” a senior US Department of Defense official said in a conversation with Sky News Arabia, who asked not to be named. ", - said in the message ... ... Let us remind you that earlier the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova said that Russia also has its own information about the transfer of foreign fighters to Nagorno-Karabakh.

                  IA Red Spring
                  Read the full article here:
                  https://rossaprimavera.ru/news/816487b2..."
                  For example, I did not know that there are Armenians in the Pentagon)))
                3. Bakinec
                  Bakinec 5 October 2020 17: 38
                  +1
                  Did it occur to you that M. Zakharova could mean the Armenians?
                  And it is inappropriate to insert Armenian fake news here. What is the representative of the min. US defense why there is no this news on the official website of the Pentagon,
                4. AndreyS
                  AndreyS 5 October 2020 17: 52
                  0
                  Quote: Bakinec
                  Did it occur to you that M. Zakharova could mean the Armenians?

                  This is not Zakharova's main but Sky News Arabia on his Twitter account. like this is not a Russian edition. And here is the text of this edition itself https://vstrokax.net/novosti/sky-news-arabia-srochno/

                  And where does the Armenian fake news dear?
        2. Scorpio05
          Scorpio05 6 October 2020 03: 56
          0
          .
          Quote: Bakinec
          There are too many Armenians on this site who write all sorts of nasty things about Azerbaijan and want to raise the Russians against the Azerbaijanis.

          Yes, all Armenian trolls and fakes, mainly from Zen, although most of them are clinical id-you, but they take in quantity.
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    1. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 5 October 2020 12: 04
      +4
      Quote: Artura
      eat your tie))))

      Only after Pashinyan)))
    2. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 6 October 2020 03: 49
      +1
      No macaw, they'd rather feed you a footcloth.
  • Roman13579
    Roman13579 5 October 2020 11: 23
    -9
    A question from the category - where is the confirmation that Putin remained the independent leader of Russia ..))
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 5 October 2020 10: 47
    13
    So I don’t understand, the whole war is over who will dance at the crossroads in Shusha?
    Are there few Moscow crossroads?
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 5 October 2020 14: 20
    +3
    Quote: Bakinec
    this is our land, we must go back there and we are going back, ”he said.

    Our land is two by two meters. because in fact a person no longer needs ...
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2020 03: 48
    -2
    Do not spread nonsense, female gossip.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 5 October 2020 10: 28
    +7
    both sides behave like Pithecanthropus. Both the Armenians and Azerbaijan.
    There are no good ones.
    1. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 6 October 2020 18: 30
      +2
      Quote: yehat2
      both sides behave like Pithecanthropus. Both the Armenians and Azerbaijan.
      There are no good ones.

      And what does the Azerbaijanis have to do with it? And in Grozny and Aleppo, locals, including those who live in peace, were presented with flowers and sweets or "called for peace" by carpet bombing. Yes, you have seen ... I also found a peacemaker and conciliator, teaches us to live arrogantly, not in "Pithecanthropic" ...
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 6 October 2020 19: 55
        -2
        God forbid to teach - and I'm not going to
        but if you want to take your heads out of your ass, then you yourself will understand where the fascinating internecine war is heading.
        in ancient China, this led to the extinction of 9/10 of the population.
  • kiborg
    kiborg 5 October 2020 10: 48
    +2
    pier Karabakh armenia

    Of course, Armenia, if Armenians lived there for at least 200 years.
    Nagorno-Karabakh is ours, this is our land, we must return there and we will return, ”he said.

    Well, where is yours, when the Armenians lived there before you ??
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 5 October 2020 10: 54
      +6
      Well, Armenians lived in A * rtsakh even before our era, unlike Azerbaijanis, who, if not for the Persians, would not have been there
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    2. Bakinec
      Bakinec 5 October 2020 11: 01
      -7
      According to your ingenious conclusion, it turns out that wherever the Armenians live, they can create their own state and expel other local residents from there? Let Russia create a Krasnodar Armenian state in Krasnodar (after all, there are 5 times more Armenians living there than in Karabakh) and expel all non-Armenians from there, or France - the Marseilles Armenian state - there are no less Armenians there than in Karabakh.
      1. kiborg
        kiborg 5 October 2020 11: 03
        11
        You have not understood anything. I have cited the population census since 1823. It clearly states that the majority of Armenians in the NKAO lived against the Azerbaijanis. Already TWO! years. And you shout that these lands are yours. So why are they yours ???
        1. Bakinec
          Bakinec 5 October 2020 11: 10
          -7
          And in Krasnodar, the Armenians, in their opinion, have been living since the 1st century BC. era
          1. kiborg
            kiborg 5 October 2020 11: 15
            11
            I brought you the All-Russian Population Census, the official one. What does Krasnodar have to do with it? Why go back centuries? Don't look that far. Take at least those 30 years that have passed since your first war for Karabakh. A whole GENERATION has already grown up there, which considers NKR to be its Motherland. And they will fight to the death for her!
            1. 72jora72
              72jora72 5 October 2020 12: 53
              -5
              And they will fight to the death for her!
              Well, fight your health, what do we have to do with it?
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 5 October 2020 17: 33
              -1
              Quote: kiborg
              I brought you the All-Russian Population Census, the official one. What does Krasnodar have to do with it? Why go back centuries? Don't look that far. Take at least those 30 years that have passed since your first war for Karabakh. A whole GENERATION has already grown up there, which considers NKR to be its Motherland. And they will fight to the death for her!

              So, it seems, no one is taking Karabakh away from the Armenians. Let them live there as they did. But geographically they are located in Azerbaijan, so they must live according to the laws of this country. I think so. And all these "independence" - they are from the evil one, which at one time the Ural drunkard was, pah on him! In the first place now, as I understand it, is not the NKR itself, but the regions that are not part of it, but occupied by Armenia. It is, as it were, ugly.
          2. grindz
            grindz 5 October 2020 12: 13
            +6
            Well, 5,5% of Armenians live in the Krasnadar Territory. Why would this own state. And 88% of Russians live there, so it's quite a Russian land.
            1. uranium
              uranium 5 October 2020 19: 21
              -4
              The rest 88% are Russians like Baghdasaryan, sorry like Bagdasarov winked
        2. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 5 October 2020 11: 17
          +3
          The list provided by the Russian Minister of Internal Affairs O. Kuzovlev on July 18, 1811 noted:

          “There are up to 12,000 families in subservient Karabakh, of which up to 2500 are Armenian families, and the rest are Tatars of Muslim faith” (the then designation of Azerbaijanis). However, out of 2500 families that are designated as Armenian in this list, according to a number of historians, the majority should be considered “Albanian”.
          Thus, in the document prepared by A. Griboyedov “The Plan for the Establishment of a Russian-Transcaucasian Company”, he wrote about the situation of “the Armenians who had arrived from behind the Araks to Russia. This mass emigration was due, to be sure, to the Turkmanchay treaty, but could not have been foreseen when it was signed ... It followed in the first four months after the conclusion of the peace; nothing was prepared for their reception and could not be prepared. "

          Thus, this document refers to the Armenians as an ethnic migrant in the Azerbaijani Transcaucasia. A. Griboyedov's notes on the shortcomings of the resettlement of Armenians to the Azerbaijani Transcaucasia are highlighted in the work of E. Zimbayeva. It should be noted that even Armenian authors confirm that, according to the Turkmanchay agreement, at least 45000 Armenians arrived from Persia, but it is believed that only 400 families of them ended up in Karabakh. It is difficult to explain how the 400 families referred to by the authors could have established many Armenian villages in Karabakh.

          In turn, Avik Isahakyan wrote: “1828-1829. were marked by a massive migration of Armenian families from Persia to the Erivan, Nakhichevan, Karabakh regions to the Shirak lowland, to the basin of Lake Sevan. Over time, the number of immigrants exceeded the originally designated ... and became much more. "

          The end of the Russian-Turkish war increased the influx of Armenian settlers into the region. According to some interpretations, the Treaty of Andrianople (14.9.1829/90,000/XNUMX) deeply disappointed the Armenian people, and about XNUMX Armenians, along with the returning Russian army, went to Russia.

          Here is the data of a well-known specialist: "... from 1828 to 1830, more than 40,000 Persians, more than 84,000 Turkish Armenians lived in the Transcaucasus on the best state lands in the governorates of Elizavetpol and Yerevan, where the Armenian population was very small."

          In the study by Simon Payaslyan “The History of Armenia. From the Origins to the present ”the author mentions the resettlement of Armenians in the following words:“ Paragraph 13 of the treaty (Treaty of Andrianople - author) provided for free exchange of population. The mass migration of Armenians to Russia first (October 1829) affected 7668 families, later another 14047 families arrived ”.

          And further, the assessment: “… before the Russian conquest, Armenians here accounted for exactly 20% of the total population, and Muslims - 80%; after the conquest, 57,000 Armenians were resettled. Already in 1828, Armenians accounted for almost half of the population ”.

          These data are significantly different from those cited by N. Shavrov regarding the Azerbaijani Erivan Khanate. For comparison, we can cite data from the Brockhaus-Efron encyclopedic dictionary: “In Elizavetpol (Ganja), the capital of the province of the same name, by 1911, the overwhelming majority of residents - 45,000 of the total population (59,000) were Azerbaijanis. Azerbaijanis made up 61% of the total population of the governorate, and Armenians 33%. ”

          The flow of Armenian migrants and those who simply moved to the region in the 1853th century grew steadily. After each war between Russia and the Ottoman Empire, new waves of immigrants appeared. This happened after the Crimean War of 1856-1876, after the war of 1878-300,000. Later, approximately XNUMX more Armenians sought refuge in the Russian Caucasus.
        3. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 5 October 2020 11: 18
          +2
          The book by the author Ishakhanyan, published in 1916, says: “The Armenians living in Mountainous Karabakh are part of the descendants of the ancient Albanians, part of the refugees from Turkey and Iran, who found refuge from persecution on Azerbaijani soil”
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 5 October 2020 11: 37
            +4
            If you think so, and whose land was it before 1811? And before the Treaty of Gustin? It was the Persians who forcibly evicted the Armenians from A * rtsakh, they also organized the Erivan Khanate by resettling the Azerbaijanis there
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 5 October 2020 11: 38
              -3
              Pooh, documents to the studio, waiting
              1. K-612-O
                K-612-O 5 October 2020 12: 04
                +2
                Uh-huh. Your documentary is about the period of the final stage of the power of Turkey and Iran in Armenia, and this is about 500 years by that time. Aghdam, if you recall, stands on the ruins of Tigranokert.
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    3. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 5 October 2020 11: 07
      -1
      From what source did you get the graph, wiki chtol?))) You do not respect yourself, your business, you are obliged to respect others. Stop inserting garbage on a respected resource.
      1. kiborg
        kiborg 5 October 2020 11: 13
        0
        Stop inserting garbage on a respected resource.

        Well done, the deflection is counted. Good lick!
    4. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 6 October 2020 21: 13
      0
      Don't say nonsense, the empire gathered Armenians in Karabakh and the Erivan province from all over the Middle East, but soon it bitterly regretted it.
  • Lelek
    Lelek 5 October 2020 10: 52
    +1
    Quote: Bakinec
    That the Armenians are not inventing to drag Russia into this conflict. Well, Russia will not interfere.

    hi
    The other day, Peskov announced the condition for the introduction of Russian peacekeepers into the NKR:
  • _Varangian_
    _Varangian_ 5 October 2020 11: 02
    +4
    Rather, it occupies Armenian cities and villages. And this is still written with a pitchfork on the water. For a week of fighting, Azerbaijan's successes were virtually disastrous. A war of attrition with Turkish-Azerbaijani resources is already serious. Although the "Southern Express" can also be earned from Iran, where Iranian drones will appear and Russian air defense systems and anti-tank systems. And if the Azerbaijanis quickly restore the UAV from the enemies of the Zionists and Turks, then heavy armored vehicles and training of tank crews is already serious.
    1. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 5 October 2020 12: 15
      +5
      Quote: _Varyag_
      Azerbaijan's successes are virtually disastrous

      Why are they failing - 22 settlements were liberated, one of them was a city, territory was reclaimed, important strategic roads were blocked. equipment is destroyed, panic increases in the ranks of the enemy. Azerbaijan protects its soldiers - they occupy enemy positions after a complete cleanup with artillery and drones.
  • Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 5 October 2020 18: 18
    -1
    Well, you didn't live quietly - you would have endless negotiations, well, no, you had to appear, show off - they say, Karabakh is Armenia, we won't give up any regions, we will populate the territories with Syrian, Lebanese Armenians,
    Yes, okay, from the point of view of establishing control over the territory of Karabakh, Azerbaijan should have attacked. Which Azerbaijan did, regardless of what Armenia was showing off or not.

    now beg Putin, Macron to stop Baku
    Now it makes no sense to stop Baku, the more they recapture the better for the Azeri.
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  • Pereira
    Pereira 5 October 2020 09: 48
    23
    He did not run away, but went to the US Embassy to hand out automatic weapons.
    A motorized rifle regiment is now being formed at the embassy from employees. He will defend the young Armenian democracy.
  • Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 5 October 2020 09: 52
    -10 qualifying.
    Quote: Alena-Baku
    in Armenia there is talk of Pashinyan's escape.

    Where? To Rostov? : D
    1. Victor Chernenko
      Victor Chernenko 5 October 2020 09: 57
      10
      Not for sorosyatinu - the land of ancestors.
    2. taiga2018
      taiga2018 5 October 2020 09: 57
      +4
      Quote: Vol4ara
      To Rostov?

      No, the Maydauns have a place somewhere in Kherson ...
    3. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 5 October 2020 09: 57
      -3
      in Sochi of course
    4. Shuttle
      Shuttle 5 October 2020 10: 21
      +9
      Quote: Vol4ara
      Quote: Alena-Baku
      in Armenia there is talk of Pashinyan's escape.

      Where? To Rostov? : D

      Have mercy! Rostov is not rubber!
      I am sure that neither Chaltyr, nor Nakhichevan, nor Crimea, nor Saly, nor Sultan-Saly, nor Abramovka will accept this Pashinyan. Oh, they won't.

      P / S for non-Rostovites is all the names of n / a near Rostov-on-Don and parts of the city itself that were previously part of the Nakhichevan Armenian District.

      1. bondrostov
        bondrostov 5 October 2020 11: 13
        -1
        Pashinyans are not inappropriate for us, otherwise they are in chaltar and so already as a separate state. This is bad ..
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 5 October 2020 17: 49
        0
        Quote: Shuttle
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Quote: Alena-Baku
        in Armenia there is talk of Pashinyan's escape.

        Where? To Rostov? : D

        Have mercy! Rostov is not rubber!
        I am sure that neither Chaltyr, nor Nakhichevan, nor Crimea, nor Saly, nor Sultan-Saly, nor Abramovka will accept this Pashinyan. Oh, they won't.

        P / S for non-Rostovites is all the names of n / a near Rostov-on-Don and parts of the city itself that were previously part of the Nakhichevan Armenian District.

        But in Armenia - Nakhichevan is not Armenian, but Azerbaijani for some reason.
        1. Shuttle
          Shuttle 5 October 2020 17: 57
          0
          Quote: Doliva63
          But in Armenia - Nakhichevan is not Armenian, but Azerbaijani for some reason.

          Don't even start. In this matter, the victims are both peoples.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 5 October 2020 18: 27
            +1
            Quote: Shuttle
            Quote: Doliva63
            But in Armenia - Nakhichevan is not Armenian, but Azerbaijani for some reason.

            Don't even start. In this matter, the victims are both peoples.

            I agree. It's just that I come from Nakhichevan - which is in Armenia, but Azerbaijani laughing Moreover, we called it Armenian Siberia.laughing
  • K-612-O
    K-612-O 5 October 2020 09: 56
    10
    And by the way, your Ilham will also play out if he continues to drag Syrian fanboys to the front with the Turks.
    18 + video
    https://t.me/rybar/14669?single
    Russia can organize a CTO, and Iran can organize a Shiite coup.
    You can't trade the sovereignty of your country like that, although the bearded dwarf is still ahead of him with a margin.
    1. Alena-Baku
      Alena-Baku 5 October 2020 10: 00
      -10 qualifying.
      Ilham is not mine, and there is no smell of bearded men here.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 5 October 2020 10: 06
        13
        Quote: Alena-Baku
        Ilham is not mine, and there is no smell of bearded men here.

        In Baku ? maybe yes They are re-exported immediately to the front ...

        Actually, this leaves you with a loophole, as for the population of defeated Nazi Germany - "We didn't know"...
      2. K-612-O
        K-612-O 5 October 2020 10: 11
        +7
        That's right, it no longer smells, but stinks.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 October 2020 10: 20
          +8
          Quote: K-612-O
          That's right, it no longer smells, but stinks.

          yes On the overwhelming stench, subtle shades of "aromas" can no longer be caught ...
    2. taiga2018
      taiga2018 5 October 2020 10: 05
      +3
      Quote: K-612-O
      And by the way, your Ilham will also play out if he continues to drag Syrian fanboys to the front with the Turks.
      18 + video
      https://t.me/rybar/14669?single
      Russia can organize a CTO, and Iran can organize a Shiite coup.

      Well, this is unlikely, but sending them back can become problematic ...
    3. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 5 October 2020 10: 41
      0
      Quote: K-612-O
      And by the way, your Ilham will also play out if he continues to drag Syrian fanboys to the front with the Turks.
      18 + video
      https://t.me/rybar/14669?single
      Russia can organize a CTO, and Iran can organize a Shiite coup.
      You can't trade the sovereignty of your country like that, although the bearded dwarf is still ahead of him with a margin.

      Where was the helicopter shooting in the last video? By Armenian satellites?
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 5 October 2020 10: 44
        +3
        Well why, they could shoot at the maximum range, but for this the operator must be an ace
    4. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 5 October 2020 12: 18
      +3
      Quote: K-612-O
      and Iran is a Shiite coup.

      So this is a filming from Iran - just the fighting in the Jebrail region - the Araks flows there - from one side Azerbaijan to the other Iran and they speak Farsi. For several days the Iranians have been sitting there as spectators on the banks.
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 5 October 2020 13: 29
        +1
        Iranian spectators also walk along broken positions. And the speech is definitely not Farsi and not Azerbaijanis. And in Iran, Azerbaijanis live in that region.
  • maiman61
    maiman61 5 October 2020 10: 03
    -4
    Good news! It's time to cleanse Armenia of soros!
  • Grits
    Grits 5 October 2020 12: 09
    +3
    Quote: Alena-Baku
    in Armenia there is talk of Pashinyan's escape.

    It would be better if he ran away a year ago. Maybe there would have been no war, we would have agreed somehow
  • stalki
    stalki 5 October 2020 09: 55
    +1
    maximum flight speed - 310 km / h, practical range - 435 km,
    in some sources S.p. up to 340 km / h, p.p. up to 480 - 550 km, plus from PTB up to 1000 km. And in some, less. Whom to believe?
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 October 2020 10: 00
    14
    Alena-Baku
    in Armenia there is talk of Pashinyan's escape.
    And in Azerbaijan, probably about the fact that Aliyev urgently left to "visit" Erdogan? Well, why write blatant nonsense even from Baku.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 October 2020 10: 39
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Why write blatant nonsense even from Baku.

      INFOWARE.
  • Oleg123219307
    Oleg123219307 5 October 2020 10: 02
    +4
    I wonder what Armenia will do now with the whole situation? They are slowly being squeezed out of Karabakh, they are slowing down this process, but they cannot and cannot, their military-industrial complex potentials are too incomparable with the Turks supplying Azerbaijan. The Armenian authorities got into a fight with us for the sake of America, and to such an extent that even losing, losing a bunch of people and equipment, they hate to ask for help. The only chance to change something strategically is to leave Azerbaijan without equipment and Turkish supplies. Can Armenia do this? Yes, it can, in principle. 30-50 OTRK missiles at the main airfields, power plants, fuel and lubricants and ammunition depots, oil industry, headquarters and communication centers, decision-making centers ... And Azerbaijan will suddenly not be up to the war, but we probably will not allow Turkey's direct intervention, because the base , and strategically we only lacked the Turks in the Caucasus. Instead, there is a drain of equipment, air defense, people in obviously losing defensive battles against a technologically more equipped enemy. What are they waiting for the question? The third day of warnings, they shout that we are about to hit targets in the depths of the defense, and the only blow is 6 MLRS missiles with an accuracy of plus or minus a tram stop ... It is clear that you will not be able to win at such a pace, and you either need to transfer all this into a real war on enemy territory, where the chances of victory will be, either surrender and not kill people. Strange politics ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 5 October 2020 10: 19
      11
      Azerbaijan will sharply have no time for war


      That is, having received large-scale damage to his strategic facilities and infrastructure, Aliyev capitulates?

      It seems to me that on the contrary, he will hit Armenia with everything he has. And Aliyev has several times more funds for strikes into the depths of Armenia (and not Karabakh). And they are mostly new. Difference from the bulk of the Soviet Points of the Armenians. Homeopathic Iskanders will not decide the outcome in unlimited conflict.
      1. Oleg123219307
        Oleg123219307 5 October 2020 10: 38
        -1
        Quote: donavi49
        That is, having received large-scale damage to his strategic facilities and infrastructure, Aliyev capitulates?

        It seems to me that on the contrary, he will hit Armenia with everything he has. And Aliyev has several times more funds for strikes into the depths of Armenia (and not Karabakh). And they are mostly new. Difference from the bulk of the Soviet Points of the Armenians. Homeopathic Iskanders will not decide the outcome in unlimited conflict

        A question of concentration of impact. In order for Aliyev to hit Armenia, two conditions are needed - that there is something to beat, and that there is Aliev. Within the framework of what I wrote above, both questions can be resolved, although not without difficulties. The means of strikes deep into Armenia are now mostly in warehouses ... And we are unlikely to ignore the massive strike against Armenia. And this is how, pulling rubber, the Armenians will finish the game until the army is exhausted to a level when it becomes impossible to inflict strategic damage on the enemy.
        1. Avior
          Avior 5 October 2020 11: 12
          +4
          we are unlikely to disregard a massive strike against Armenia

          if Armenia does not strike first
          1. Oleg123219307
            Oleg123219307 5 October 2020 11: 25
            +4
            Quote: Avior
            if Armenia does not strike first

            Yes, here the question is no longer legal, but strategic, so I don't care who will be the first ... Although personally I would prefer to sit on the sidelines and see how Armenia will get snot for the races shouting about the Russian invaders. Serves the traitors right.
            1. Avior
              Avior 5 October 2020 11: 32
              +3
              not sure what will happen anyway, who will be the first
              1. Oleg123219307
                Oleg123219307 5 October 2020 11: 35
                0
                Quote: Avior
                not sure what will happen anyway, who will be the first

                Let's wait and see ... In the end, it's all just theory and speculation.
            2. Grits
              Grits 5 October 2020 12: 34
              +5
              Quote: oleg123219307
              Although personally I would prefer to sit on the sidelines and see how Armenia will get snot for the races shouting about the Russian invaders. Serves the traitors right.

              I feel that in a few years the same music will be started about other occupiers - about Azerbaijanis and Turks. They just won't scream. They will whisper. Because, unlike the kind Russians, the Turks will knock on the head immediately and very painfully. Armenians, you jumped on your "Maidan". I am sincerely sorry for you.
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 5 October 2020 11: 20
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        That is, Aliyev received massive damage to his strategic facilities and infrastructure. surrenders?

        ===
        suppose it stops. under the pressure of losses, costs and destruction
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 5 October 2020 11: 09
      +5
      ", and the only blow - 6 MLRS missiles with an accuracy of plus or minus a tram stop." ////
      ----
      A tornado at a maximum distance gives a missile spread of hundreds of meters.
      NUR - what to want? And two more missiles did not explode.
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 5 October 2020 11: 41
        0
        But this photo is very similar to the staged one. Tornado's shells are not armor-piercing, they are asphalt, not earth. And the engine, too, when falling, does not make holes in the asphalt so as to stick.
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 5 October 2020 11: 45
        -2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        single strike - 6 MLRS missiles

        For the purpose of the obviously "beauty" of the propaganda frame, the Azerbaijanis wedged the shank in the funnel with a piece of wood, so that it would not fall over, but deliberately stick out ...

        Quote: voyaka uh
        two more rockets failed to explode.



        Didn't throw away the cassettes? Or was the warhead some other?
      3. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 5 October 2020 13: 00
        +7
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And two more missiles did not explode.

        Should have? In an NAR with a cassette warhead, the tail section usually remains intact.
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 5 October 2020 13: 31
          -1
          Only there should not be a neat hole in the asphalt, but as in your photo, it should be turned
  • Avior
    Avior 5 October 2020 10: 19
    0
    The air defense of Karabakh seems to have weakened.
    with MANPADS such a helicopter as the Mi-24 or 35 is not easy to shoot down.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 5 October 2020 10: 26
      +1
      So, except for shilok, tori, shells you can't drag anything into the mountains, and with that, A * rtsakh has nothing, at all
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 October 2020 10: 32
      +6
      Quote: Avior
      with MANPADS such a helicopter as mi-24 or 35 is not easy to shoot down


      Nonsense. The use of MANPADS in our country has shown their high efficiency against the Ukrop Mi-24 ...

      We flew, flew, and can no longer ...

      Actually, in general, about the use of MANPADS ... Their massive use in the area of ​​Beloyarovka (up to 7 simultaneous launches on one Su-25 target) by the latter, did not leave any chances to leave.
      The Ukroluftwaffe pilot only had to "leave the office" ...

      1. Avior
        Avior 5 October 2020 10: 48
        0
        not easy, but not impossible.
        From an ambush, it seems.
        Obviously, he did not shoot any traps, nor did they see the launch of MANPADS.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 October 2020 10: 54
          +4
          Quote: Avior
          not easy, but not impossible.
          From an ambush, it seems.
          Obviously, he did not shoot any traps, nor did they see the launch of MANPADS.

          War is like war. Moreover, these "visitor", no one called.
          1. Avior
            Avior 5 October 2020 11: 10
            +6
            they spoke Russian in the cockpit.
            I'm not happy with the fact that Russians are killing Russians.
            However, you wrote that he was Ukrainian.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 October 2020 11: 56
              +1
              Quote: Avior
              they spoke Russian in the cockpit.
              I'm not happy with the fact that Russians are killing Russians.

              Russian-speaking banderlog, why on earth, on what basis, becomes Russian for you?
              1. Avior
                Avior 5 October 2020 12: 04
                +4
                For you, as a Ukrainian, it may not matter that the Russians died there.
                But I ask myself, who pits Russians against Russians?
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 5 October 2020 12: 07
                  +4
                  Quote: Avior
                  I ask myself, who pits Russians against Russians?

                  Just about, in the beginning, sort it out in yourself, in your confusion of thoughts ...
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 5 October 2020 12: 17
                    0
                    What I wish you
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 5 October 2020 12: 21
                      +2
                      Quote: Avior
                      What I wish you

                      Don't worry about me. In the choice of the side, I unequivocally and irrevocably decided in 2014, and confirmed my firmness of convictions during the war.

                      So, such wobbling as yours is not listed for me ...
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 5 October 2020 12: 25
                        +6
                        Where did you see my wobbling? you have a rich imagination.
                        I am for peace between Russians.
                        I don't see this in your country.
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 5 October 2020 13: 51
                        -1
                        Quote: Avior
                        Where did you see my wobbling? you have a rich imagination.

                        By no means, elementary observation ...
                      3. Avior
                        Avior 5 October 2020 17: 50
                        +2
                        Don't flatter yourself
                    2. The leader of the Redskins
                      The leader of the Redskins 5 October 2020 20: 25
                      0
                      Never mind. When your opponent says Ukraine, a reflex is triggered, like Pavlov's dog.
                      I have just finished watching the video of the wonderful Russian journalist A. Pivovarov, based on the materials of DONETSK (not Kiev, not Moscow, but local) bloggers and a little freaked out.
                      The reality turns out to be even worse than in Ukrainian propaganda programs.
                      I was especially shocked by the revelations that life stopped at the level of 2014, and sometimes backed up! The desire of many to go anywhere, only from there!
                      And this individual pokes everyone about how bad everything is in Ukraine, sometimes citing evidence of "the times of Ochakovsky and the conquest of Crimea ...".
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 5 October 2020 15: 13
      +1
      At such a height, I would hardly have had time to shoot, and there were hardly any traps.
      1. Avior
        Avior 5 October 2020 17: 54
        +1
        Accidentally jumped out into an ambush, the terrain is perfectly flat, even on an ultra-small one is visible from afar
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 5 October 2020 18: 41
          0
          There should also be radiation sensors that give a signal when hovering, although they would hardly help.
          1. Avior
            Avior 5 October 2020 19: 51
            +1
            MANPADS does not irradiate, it is passive, guided by IR radiation
            The range of MANPADS is small, the helicopter went to the point where the shooter was
            1. Incvizitor
              Incvizitor 5 October 2020 20: 38
              0
              In the same place, the guidance is then already broken at the target, the laser jamming station does not react even when aiming at the target? At Adros KT-01AV, the detection systems, or they were not simply installed.
              1. Avior
                Avior 5 October 2020 20: 46
                +1
                The missile launcher does not emit
                Guided visually by the operator, the seeker is passive for IR radiation.
                Therefore, a regular STR does not respond.
                There should be a missile attack warning system, for example, as part of a module against IR-guided missiles, detects a flash when launched.
                I don't know how it was then and now.
                Until 2014 in Ukraine, the army was treated completely carelessly, I doubt that they invested in equipment, it was believed that there was, in principle, no one to fight.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 October 2020 10: 33
    +3
    Quote: Avior
    The air defense of Karabakh seems to have weakened.

    And it was just so powerful ... "Wasps" were knocked out by drones, but what else was there? They said something about the S-300, but one battalion could not block the entire area, and at the same time, bungling and slovenliness could have lost it, if it was.
  • Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 5 October 2020 10: 33
    +4
    The Azerbaijani Air Force has 38 pieces of MI-24 in different versions, and 24 pieces of MI-35 M.
  • 416D
    416D 5 October 2020 10: 33
    -1
    Quote: Insurgent
    Quote: Bakinec
    Here you go:

    What is it ? Where is the confirmation that Aliyev remained the independent leader of Azerbaijan and is not acting under the compulsion of Turkey?

    That's what I asked for ...


    In the same place, there is confirmation that Putin has remained an independent leader of the Russian Federation and is not acting under duress of Angela Merkel.

    This answer will suit you
  • 416D
    416D 5 October 2020 10: 33
    0
    Quote: Insurgent
    Quote: Alena-Baku
    in Armenia there is talk of Pashinyan's escape.

    In Transcaucasia, something unimaginable is happening, in Azerbaijan they say that Turkish special forces have removed President Aliyev from the leadership of the country, and all power in the republic has passed to Turkey ...

    It's true ?


    Yes, the OBS was broadcast on the TV channel (one grandmother said). But seriously, everything is under control here: the president yesterday made an appeal to the people, announced the return of the city of Dzhabrail and announced the conditions for peace talks.
  • iouris
    iouris 5 October 2020 10: 50
    0
    By the way, the nationality (s) of the pilots?
  • 416D
    416D 5 October 2020 10: 59
    +8
    Quote: iouris
    By the way, the nationality (s) of the pilots?


    Pilots - Slavs
    Infantry - Arab
    Drone Operators - Jews + Turks
    The Turks are in charge
    Even the Martians promised to send us help to send the weather there was simple there for starships was not flying yesterday.
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  • rocket757
    rocket757 5 October 2020 11: 06
    +3
    The peoples there themselves chose their leaders!
    If it were not for a real opportunity for Turkey to gain a foothold in the Caspian, then it would be possible not to talk about anything at all.
    Oh yeah, show concern as it should.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 5 October 2020 11: 11
    +2
    Well, the aviation was connected, the conflict was only at the very beginning of the campaign
  • Victorm
    Victorm 5 October 2020 11: 17
    +4
    And what did the Armenians knock down in their victorious reports before? laughing "Blue crocodiles", they say, since it is also a crocodile, then we will write down the Mi-24? laughing

    The guys are already lying to such an extent and are so pitiful and wretched ...
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 5 October 2020 11: 33
    -1
    Quote: taiga2018
    Or drones ...

    More like drones.
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 5 October 2020 11: 54
    +2
    Quote: Bakinec
    According to your ingenious conclusion, it turns out that wherever the Armenians live, they can create their own state and expel other local residents from there? Let Russia create a Krasnodar Armenian state in Krasnodar (after all, there are 5 times more Armenians living there than in Karabakh) and expel all non-Armenians from there, or France - the Marseilles Armenian state - there are no less Armenians there than in Karabakh.

    Russia does not recognize Karabakh as the territory of Armenia.
    But.
    Karabakh was also an autonomous entity in the Azerbaijan SSR in Soviet times, and 90% of Armenians lived there.
    It is not surprising that with the collapse of the USSR, the population of Karabakh decided to secede from Azerbaijan.
    There is such a principle of international law as the right of peoples to self-determination.
    It is this right that Karabakh used.
    Azerbaijan does not agree with this, it is understandable.
    However, you are apparently ready to massively bury Azerbaijanis and kill Armenians on the officially Azerbaijani territory.
    Proceed as you see fit.
    But don't expect to be treated well.
    And the life of the population of Azerbaijan will only get worse.
    If the territories cost ruined lives and deterioration in living standards, continue for a long time.
    1. Avior
      Avior 5 October 2020 12: 16
      +4
      There is such a principle of international law as the right of peoples to self-determination.

      You do not quite correctly interpret it, and you use the word people very freely in the literary sense, and not in the legal sense.
      The right to self-determination under international law belongs to nations, that is, the totality of citizens of one state. This is enshrined in the UN Charter and several conventions.
      And the citizens of Armenia undoubtedly have such a right. But the inhabitants of Karabakh are not a separate nation.
      hi
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 5 October 2020 13: 44
        0
        And what nation is the population of Karabakh, who had the right of autonomy within the USSR, which consisted of 90% ethnic Armenians and did not refuse to be part of Azerbaijan after the collapse of the USSR?
        In my opinion, it was you who gave a too narrow interpretation of the principle of the right of nations to self-determination.
        Interpretation is a delicate matter.
        But the population of Karabakh has the right to recognize its independent existence on the land of Karabakh.
        How fair does the protests of Azerbaijan look like, suggesting that Azerbaijanis were expelled from these territories?
        Democracy is essentially a majority right.
        And in the Western interpretation, democracy is treated in a completely different way.
        But now the right of the strong is almost exclusively in use.
        The winner of this battle is recognized as legitimate, perhaps with minor claims to the ways of exercising the right of the strong.
  • kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i 5 October 2020 12: 08
    +7
    Interestingly, the girls are dancing ... According to the published speeches of the press service of Armenia, they were shot down - the picture below

    as many as 14 helicopters ... and here this morning write that Azerbaijan - For the first time used drums - then did you shoot down ???
    1. Stas Sv
      Stas Sv 5 October 2020 13: 09
      +1
      21st century, information war, what did you want, dear? winked
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 5 October 2020 13: 45
      +2
      Quote: kotdavin4i
      as many as 14 helicopters ... and here this morning write that Azerbaijan - For the first time used drums - then did you shoot down ???

      Pfff ... everything is as usual - some information phantoms knocked down other information phantoms. Great battle of newspaper ducks.
      We will find out something more or less similar to the truth in five years.
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 5 October 2020 13: 06
    +1
    Quote: bondrostov
    Pashinyans are not inappropriate for us, otherwise they are in chaltar and so already as a separate state. This is bad ..

    It is normal with us both in Chaltyr and in Nakhichevan with normal Pashinyans. But this particular Pashinyan is really not for nothing, and not with money ... Yes.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 5 October 2020 14: 15
    +4
    Quote: Insurgent
    Quote: Bakinec
    Here you go:

    What is it ? Where is the confirmation that Aliyev remained the independent leader of Azerbaijan and is not acting under the compulsion of Turkey?

    That's what I asked for ...

    So that you and others do not have such a naive question, remember fully your full name. President of Azerbaijan, if in the Russian writing tradition:
    Ilgam HEYDAROVICH ALIEV.

    All that we see now is the foundation laid by Heydar Aliyev. The deceased was a mortal man, with merits and flaws, but he was never a traitor, did not bend or bend over. His son, the current president, is also a mortal man, also with merits and demerits, but as the son of his father, he was not and will not become a traitor, does not bend or bend over to anyone.

    Undoubtedly, the Republic of Azerbaijan, a sovereign state on the territory of Northern Azerbaijan, is a dwarf state in its current form. As usual, from the latter it is assumed that it must certainly follow the wake of any large state, but so far the Republic of Azerbaijan is able to balance and maintain its sovereignty and independence as much as possible. And most importantly, being for the most part a partner of one of its three large neighbors, Turkey, it does not take an overtly pro-Turkish side, like a vassal, it does not side with openly hostile forces and does not conduct a hostile policy towards its other two neighbors, Russia and Iran. , where the more Azerbaijanis are an indigenous people, in Russia there are a little more than 600 thousand citizens of Azerbaijani nationality, plus up to 1 million Azerbaijani citizens permanently reside, in Iran a little more than 28 million. man.
    A simple example, the same Republic of Turkey, where the Islamists are now at the helm, to put it mildly not in the best relations with the State of Israel, probably not worth talking about the Islamic Republic of Iran, but at the same time the Republic of Azerbaijan has excellent relations with the State of Israel, but on the topic of this resource, the most fruitful cooperation with the Jewish state in the defense sphere, the systems and experience that they supply and transfer to us can not be obtained either in Russia or in Turkey. And despite any words of Ankara that boiled water ... and even more so Tehran, where the Ayatollahs have steam from their ears, Baku has cooperated, is cooperating and will continue to cooperate with Jerusalem, among whose citizens there are many immigrants from Azerbaijan.
    If we take the example of the policy of the Republic of Azerbaijan in relation to the State of Israel, it turns out that we are walking in the wake of Russia, since I will repeat myself to Ankara and Tehran this cooperation is in the throat.


    The topic is again advertising the UAV Bayraktar TV2 laughing well, how many to repeat, Azerbaijan has a minuscule of them, and the basis of the foundations is the more advanced Israeli UAVs Orbiter produced under license, and it is they who do the main work hi
  • Old26
    Old26 5 October 2020 15: 16
    +3
    Quote: oleg123219307
    30-50 OTRK missiles for the main airfields, power stations, fuel and lubricants and ammunition depots, oil industry, headquarters and communication centers, decision-making centers ...

    And where can you find so many of them in Armenia? 4 "Points", 4 "Iskander" and 8 ancient, like g ... but the mammoth "Elbrus". It is not known how efficient the Elbruses are. A total salvo of 20 missiles. After that, for 30 to 50 minutes, these launchers are generally not capable of anything. In addition, a conventional warhead strike at any target - not a single missile is needed to hit the same airfield. Moreover, there is no guarantee that they will disable it
  • Victorm
    Victorm 5 October 2020 18: 10
    -1
    Quote: Old26
    Quote: oleg123219307
    30-50 OTRK missiles for the main airfields, power stations, fuel and lubricants and ammunition depots, oil industry, headquarters and communication centers, decision-making centers ...

    And where can you find so many of them in Armenia? 4 "Points", 4 "Iskander" and 8 ancient, like g ... but the mammoth "Elbrus". It is not known how efficient the Elbruses are. A total salvo of 20 missiles. After that, for 30 to 50 minutes, these launchers are generally not capable of anything. In addition, a conventional warhead strike at any target - not a single missile is needed to hit the same airfield. Moreover, there is no guarantee that they will disable it
    OTRK in Armenia is a musket in the hands of a savage.

    Armenia did not have modern means of reconnaissance, and those that were many were lost; even the most modern OTRK Iskander-E can be used to guarantee hitting the target, the Armenian Armed Forces simply cannot independently.
    With older OTRK Tochka-U, the situation is even worse, simply by their characteristics.
    OTRK Elbrus ... can launch on a large target such as stupidly "city", and there "to whom God will send."
    None of the OTRKs in service has military significance and cannot play any role in, for example, stopping the advance of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, causing them damage, etc.
    They have no nuclear weapons and chemical weapons. This is not an artillery shell to fill with cyanide and chlorine, which they dabbled in before.

    Apparently, the attack on the Mingechevir hydroelectric complex and state district power station will be repeated more than once, and so on until either the missiles run out, or a response arrives specifically at Pashinyan, other soros, the Armenian Defense Minister and his accomplices. By the way, I'm surprised why the Azerbaijani Armed Forces refrain from destroying them ...
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 5 October 2020 19: 18
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    Azerbaijani Air Force used Mi-35M helicopters in the conflict zone

    Are the short-range air defense systems of the NKR Armed Forces destroyed, or is it always bungling?
  • Volzhanin64
    Volzhanin64 5 October 2020 19: 24
    +2
    The Armenians "inadvertently" grabbed from Azerbaijan as much territory as the NKR, and now they are surprised that the latter are returning theirs.
    1. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber 7 October 2020 00: 55
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      Больше actually, Colleague. The total area of ​​the so-called "NKR" and in Armenia "euphemistically" are called "the security belt" of the NKR "and the" corridor of life "- significantly exceeds the constitutional area of ​​the NKAR according to the ATD of the USSR. And if you also remember that a number of NKAR regions were with a predominantly Azerbaijani population ...
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2020 03: 54
    -2
    Quote: Insurgent
    Quote: Alena-Baku
    in Armenia there is talk of Pashinyan's escape.

    In Transcaucasia, something unimaginable is happening, in Azerbaijan they say that Turkish special forces have removed President Aliyev from the leadership of the country, and all power in the republic has passed to Turkey ...

    It's true ?

    Where do you get this real par-shu (sorry for the folk jacket), I can't understand. Why don't I think so many degens here, Do you sit in Armenian teen websites? These zadr-you post the same nonsense from morning till night.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2020 04: 00
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    Quote: K-612-O
    Well, Armenians lived in A * rtsakh even before our era, unlike Azerbaijanis, who, if not for the Persians, would not have been there

    Who told you such stupidity. Did you spin the globe of Armenia again? Read less Armenian waste paper, They announced that the Armenians built Kiev and Moscow)
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2020 18: 41
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    Quote: kiborg
    You have not understood anything. I have cited the population census since 1823. It clearly states that the majority of Armenians in the NKAO lived against the Azerbaijanis. Already TWO! years. And you shout that these lands are yours. So why are they yours ???

    What two hundred years? What the hell is this? Two hundred years ago the concept of "Nagorno-Karabakh" did not exist at all. There was a single Karabakh (Karabakh Khanate) where the overwhelming majority of the population were Azerbaijanis. It was with the ruler of the whole of Karabakh, Ibrahim Khan Jevanshir, that the Russian empire concluded an agreement on joining the Russian Empire. empire. In the treaty, the guaranteed (!) right of the descendants of the Karabakh khan (he is already a lieutenant general of the Russian imperial service) to eternal (!) rule in the khanate was fixed! There was not a single Armenian at the time of signing and for a kilometer. There was also no mention of any Armenian claims and interests. Perhaps the emperor and his delegates knew better than you what they were doing. And under the Soviets, the mountainous part of Karabakh (moreover, surrounded by Azerbaijani regions, without access to Armenia or anywhere else) where the Armenians lived in clusters, was isolated and turned into an autonomous region. It would be if mountainous Pyatigorsk or Armavir, where the majority of Armenians live, but surrounded by Russian regions, would suddenly become an autonomous region (city).
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2020 18: 47
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    Quote: Livonetc
    Quote: Bakinec
    According to your ingenious conclusion, it turns out that wherever the Armenians live, they can create their own state and expel other local residents from there? Let Russia create a Krasnodar Armenian state in Krasnodar (after all, there are 5 times more Armenians living there than in Karabakh) and expel all non-Armenians from there, or France - the Marseilles Armenian state - there are no less Armenians there than in Karabakh.

    Russia does not recognize Karabakh as the territory of Armenia.
    But.
    Karabakh was also an autonomous entity in the Azerbaijan SSR in Soviet times, and 90% of Armenians lived there.
    It is not surprising that with the collapse of the USSR, the population of Karabakh decided to secede from Azerbaijan.
    There is such a principle of international law as the right of peoples to self-determination.
    It is this right that Karabakh used.
    Azerbaijan does not agree with this, it is understandable.
    However, you are apparently ready to massively bury Azerbaijanis and kill Armenians on the officially Azerbaijani territory.
    Proceed as you see fit.
    But don't expect to be treated well.
    And the life of the population of Azerbaijan will only get worse.
    If the territories cost ruined lives and deterioration in living standards, continue for a long time.

    There is no such thing in the USSR Constitution. Do not believe, blatant Armenian lie.
    There is no other decision other than how to accept the republics of the former USSR within their administrative boundaries, since there is no other interpretation either in the legislation of the USSR or in international legislation. Because:

    Article 173 of the USSR Constitution proclaimed that the Constitution has a priority right over all other legislation.

    1. Article 76 of the Constitution stipulated that all republics of the USSR are SOVEREIGN STATES, which united into a single Union of SSR WITH THE RIGHT OF SECESSION from the Union (within their former administrative boundaries).

    2. At the same time, Article 78 of the Constitution determined that the territories of the union republics CANNOT CHANGE, and all borders between the union republics can change if there is a mutual consent of the Parties expressed in writing.

    3. Article 86 of the Constitution of the USSR concluded that autonomous formations are integral parts of the union republics without delegating to them sovereign rights to secede from the union republics.

    International law and supranational organizations, incl. represented by the UN, fully recognized the borders of the former republics of the USSR (including Azerbaijan) within their administrative boundaries.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2020 19: 00
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    Quote: K-612-O
    Uh-huh. Your documentary is about the period of the final stage of the power of Turkey and Iran in Armenia, and this is about 500 years by that time. Aghdam, if you recall, stands on the ruins of Tigranokert.

    Listen, where did you get this narcissistic nonsense on the Armenian nationalist forums?) What other Tigranokert in Aghdam?))) Or other nonsense of Armenians about the fifth capital)
    Persian Tigran II Arteshisid (Source: Prof. Nina Garsoyan. "Iranika") - Roman appointee and king of Armenia (Akkado-Aramaic name of the region even before the Hayev-Armenians)) built his capital Tigranokert near Diyarbakir (modern Turkey) and settled it with Greeks ... This conqueror and usurper wanted to spit on all the tribes inhabiting the province, in fact, slaves. What Armenians?)) It was there that the huge army of Tigran II was defeated by the Roman commander Lucullus (Source: Plutarch “Life of Lucoulus”) with such a small army. that Tigran Areshesides, at the sight of the troops of Lucullus, arrogantly said: What is this procession? Too big for the embassy, ​​too small for the army.
    Check any Armenian information or statement. Most of them are lies and falsifications.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2020 21: 17
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    Quote: K-612-O
    And by the way, your Ilham will also play out if he continues to drag Syrian fanboys to the front with the Turks.
    18 + video
    https://t.me/rybar/14669?single
    Russia can organize a CTO, and Iran can organize a Shiite coup.
    You can't trade the sovereignty of your country like that, although the bearded dwarf is still ahead of him with a margin.

    Have you pulled out a primitive Armenian fake production again? Do you write directly from the Armenian youth forums? What nonsense? The landscape is incomprehensible, most likely Syria. The helicopter of which in the world is about 20 thousand. and in Syria and Arabic speech behind the scenes, with overlay. Do you take Armenians for idiots, in general? Here you are not your juvenile nerds in the Armenian nationalist forums.
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  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2020 21: 58
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    Quote: 416D
    Quote: iouris
    By the way, the nationality (s) of the pilots?


    Pilots - Slavs
    Infantry - Arab
    Drone Operators - Jews + Turks
    The Turks are in charge
    Even the Martians promised to send us help to send the weather there was simple there for starships was not flying yesterday.

    I spoke to them, the Martians refused to fly to our aid. The Death Star flies to us to bomb the Armenians from Nibiru, and the Turks, in addition, recruited the Saharan Tuaregs, and the Masai Negroes with spears and feathers will come, they were promised WarGonzo correspondents for dinner for that pro-Armenian verbal diarrhea, with which journalists of low social responsibility littered the entire broadcast. The cherry on the cake will be a naked rosy liar after the Karabakh mulberry tree Semyon Pegov, cooked in Kabyle with a branch of Karabakh cilantro stuck into his causal place and with a pack of his favorite Armenian bucks in his mouth.
  • Zementbomber
    Zementbomber 7 October 2020 00: 48
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    Well ShtAZh - nIploh-nIploh. This means that the General Staff of Azərbaycan Milli Ordusu believes (and it seems - with due grounds) that the air defense of the Armenian occupation group in Karabakh and the adjacent territories of Azerbaijan has been suppressed enough to enable the use of manned Army aviation without a significant risk of losses.
    "KARASHO!" (from)