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Pashinyan's phone call to Putin is being discussed online

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The network is discussing a phone call made by Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan to Russian President Vladimir Putin. The Armenian prime minister called Moscow and reported about a sharp aggravation of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh.


The Kremlin's website indicates that the Russian side has expressed serious concern about the fact that large-scale armed clashes with the use of heavy equipment and aviation... According to Vladimir Putin, it is now extremely important to prevent further escalation and to immediately end hostilities.

Pashinyan tweeted the following:

During a telephone conversation with President Vladimir Putin, he provided detailed information on the situation on the contact line in NK. I expressed concern about the military actions unleashed by the Azerbaijani side, which I described as aggression against NK.

And before that, Pashinyan, via Twitter, "called on the entire international community" to prevent Turkey from interfering in the conflict.

Pashinyan:

This is fraught with the most devastating consequences for the South Caucasus and neighboring regions.

The network noted how Pashinyan suddenly "remembered" partnership agreements with Russia, although when he came to power, he made statements about "the need to adhere to an exclusively independent policy." One of the statements of Pashinyan's supporters was the need to leave the CSTO. Now official Yerevan no longer remembers this.

In the comments to Pashinyan's post, he was reminded of the slogans under which his supporters went to rallies in Armenia:

Photos used:
from a comment on Twitter / Nikol Pashinyan
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  1. U-Gin78
    U-Gin78 28 September 2020 06: 51 New
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    Another prodigal parrot - "Vovka, and Vovka!? ..."
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 28 September 2020 06: 56 New
      58
      like Luka ... got hot-running ... two-stalked hypocrites.
      1. Black_Vatnik
        Black_Vatnik 28 September 2020 07: 32 New
        33
        Joke.
        An old Armenian dies. All relatives gathered at his bed, and he says to them:
        - my children, take care of the Jews.
        - father, why Jews? - asked the family.
        - they will do away with the Jews, they will take us.
        1. hrych
          hrych 28 September 2020 07: 43 New
          20
          Azerbaijan will not dare to attack Armenia because of the CSTO and Gyumri. Everything will be limited to Karabakh, and we already understand that the blitzkrieg has failed. Now, and so rather cautious Aliyev, Erdogan will persuade, but the recognition of Karabakh by Armenia and possibly Greece and even France will apparently follow. Following the example of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Aliyev would have the wisdom of his father and the courage of Babek, and not follow the lead of a hysterical "comrade".
          1. Black_Vatnik
            Black_Vatnik 28 September 2020 07: 47 New
            21
            As if by the way, Azerbaijan is fighting only for Karabakh. Nobody is going to take Yerevan and Gyumri by storm.
            1. Temples
              Temples 28 September 2020 08: 07 New
              +1
              It's time to become a part of the Russian Federation and then no one will dare to fight with Armenia, the Republic of Armenia within the Russian Federation.

              Moreover, in fact, we live with the Armenians side by side in Russia. Wherever you look. Is it bad for Armenians in Russia?
              1. Black_Vatnik
                Black_Vatnik 28 September 2020 08: 32 New
                53
                We live with many people side by side. This is our country. Recalling the anti-Russian slogans on which Pashinyan's rise to power was built, recalling how monuments to Nazi accomplices are pompously unveiling in Yerevan, recalling that Armenia only remembers an alliance with Russia when a roasted rooster pecks in the back, I somehow don't really want, to be part of my country.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 28 September 2020 11: 43 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Black_Jacket
                  I somehow don't really want them to be a part of my country.

                  Is it okay that during the collapse of the USSR, many republics, leaving, grabbed lands that they never belonged to?
                  How is it with Ivan Vasilyevich, why are you squandering the state lands of the state land ?! So you won't be enough of any volosts!
                  1. Black_Vatnik
                    Black_Vatnik 28 September 2020 12: 51 New
                    +1
                    What Russian lands did Armenia take?
                    1. Xnumx vis
                      Xnumx vis 28 September 2020 16: 03 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Black_Jacket
                      What Russian lands did Armenia take?

                      do not boil! The contribution of Armenians (people) to the history of Russia is great .. Offhand - Baghramyan, Khachaturian, Aivazovsky, Ivan Stepanovich Isakov - (Hovhannes Ter-Isahakyan ..) and thousands of other famous surnames ..
                      1. Black_Vatnik
                        Black_Vatnik 28 September 2020 18: 01 New
                        12
                        I am as calm as a boa constrictor.
                        The contribution of many peoples to the history of Russia is great.
                        But what does today's agenda have to do with it?
                      2. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 29 September 2020 17: 01 New
                        0
                        Marshal of the Soviet Union Ivan Baghramyan ... Twice Hero of the Soviet Union (1944, 1977), holder of seven Orders of Lenin (1944, 1945, 1947, 1957, 1967, 1972, 1977). Marshal of the Soviet Union, Composer Aram Khachaturian, Hero of Socialist Labor (1973). People's Artist of the USSR (1954) Winner of the Lenin Prize (1959), four Stalin Prizes (1941, 1943, 1946, 1950), the USSR State Prize (1971). One of the greatest composers of the XNUMXth century. Ivan Stepanovich Isakov Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union (March 3, 1955). Hero of the Soviet Union (1965). Laureate of the Stalin Prize (1951). Corresponding Member of the USSR Academy of Sciences (1958). Member of the Writers' Union of the USSR (1964). Deputy of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of the 1st convocation. Ivan Aivazovsky Painter of the General Naval Staff, active privy councilor, academician and honorary member of the Imperial Academy of Arts, honorary member of the Academy of Arts in Amsterdam, Rome, Paris, Florence and Stuttgart.
                        The most prominent artist of Armenian origin in the XNUMXth century. Brother of the Armenian historian and archbishop of the Armenian Apostolic Church Gabriel Aivazovsky.
              2. Senka naughty
                Senka naughty 28 September 2020 08: 33 New
                26
                Quote: Temples
                Moreover, in fact, we live with the Armenians side by side in Russia. Wherever you look. Is it bad for Armenians in Russia?

                Like a dog's fifth paw, Russia needs your Armenia as part of a federation. Of course, the Armenians in Russia are good, certainly better than the same Armenians in impoverished Armenia.
              3. yawa63
                yawa63 28 September 2020 09: 08 New
                26
                In fact, this is how it is, when I hear something about the Republic of Armenia, I am always surprised - is there someone still living there? In my opinion, they all live with us in the Krasnodar Territory ..
                1. Lionnvrsk
                  Lionnvrsk 28 September 2020 13: 43 New
                  +5
                  Quote: yawa63
                  In my opinion, they all live with us in the Krasnodar Territory ..

                  There are about 3 million of them in Armenia, about 2 million in Russia (about half of them in our region), in the rest of the world about 7 million. hi
                  1. Mikhail3
                    Mikhail3 29 September 2020 15: 48 New
                    +2
                    It is necessary to immediately provide effective assistance to Armenia, immediately sending men from 16 to 60 years old to their historical homeland, so that these wonderful people could join the battle for her. And hurry up, the conflict is hot! Our army can not enter the battle before all these patriots are killed.
              4. Alex Nevs
                Alex Nevs 29 September 2020 08: 37 New
                +1
                So yes ... but then .. and at first crushing into a "small vinaigrette" like geyrop - into two yards is already a country. This "yard" is easier to manage. And there are more votes in the UN. "divide and rule.."
            2. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 08: 15 New
              -6
              And the attack did not fail, as Khrych states. In one day, from three directions (extended), a multilayer defense was broken through, which had been built for 26 years, and we went relatively deep. If they continue today, the troops no longer have the same defense as on the first day. that the common line of contact is more than 600 km.
            3. hrych
              hrych 28 September 2020 09: 48 New
              +1
              Quote: Black_Jacket
              Nobody is going to take Yerevan and Gyumri by storm

              Shusha and Aghdam could be taken, where else ...
              1. Black_Vatnik
                Black_Vatnik 28 September 2020 10: 54 New
                +8
                We both understand that Russia is the only deterrent.
                The army of Azerbaijan is head and shoulders above the army of Armenia. The economy is much stronger, the human resource is larger.
                If a big war starts, its most likely outcome is already obvious today.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 28 September 2020 11: 19 New
                  +1
                  Not on the head, but quite comparable forces and means. There is superiority, but not sufficient for permanent, offensive operations. Also, Azerbaijanis live on the plain, and Karabakh and Armenia itself are mountains. Highlanders have a natural advantage in the mountains. Armored vehicles and even aircraft feel insecure there. The radar from the mountain has a greater radio horizon and missiles are more effective. Soldiers from the plains have increased fatigue and, in general, climbing up is harder than hitting from above.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 28 September 2020 12: 56 New
                    +5
                    Of the Armenians, no mountaineers.
                    In Yerevan, where a third, if by most, of the entire population of Azerbaijan lives, mountains are on the horizon.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 28 September 2020 13: 19 New
                      +2
                      The height of Yerevan above sea level is from 900 to 1300 m. And Baku has minus 28. The Caspian Sea is not connected to the world ocean (except for canals with locks) and its surface is below sea level.
                      1. Alex777
                        Alex777 28 September 2020 14: 20 New
                        +1
                        Nagorno-Karabakh resembles our North Caucasus.
                        Average height (did not know that there was one smile) - 1100m.
                        Yerevan is located in the valley, albeit at an altitude.
              2. Grandfather
                Grandfather 28 September 2020 11: 05 New
                +7
                Quote: hrych
                Quote: Black_Jacket
                Nobody is going to take Yerevan and Gyumri by storm

                Shusha and Aghdam could be taken, where else ...

                "agdam" ... how much of this sound ... fu ... as I remember ... stop
                1. Lionnvrsk
                  Lionnvrsk 28 September 2020 13: 53 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Dead Day
                  "agdam" ... how much in this sound ... ugh ... as I remember ..

                  "Gek-Gel" and "Ganja" evoke more pleasant associations! repeat
                  1. Scorpio05
                    Scorpio05 29 September 2020 12: 30 New
                    -1
                    Azerbaijani wine "Kurdamur" (that's how they pronounced it in the film). good
                    The phrase from the cult series: "The meeting place cannot be changed."
            4. vVvAD
              vVvAD 28 September 2020 11: 31 New
              -5
              Azerbaijan, by and large, is at war for the territory, therefore, if successful, it will arrange a massacre, deportation or deprivation of the rights of the conditionally Armenian majority. So no matter how we relate to Pashinyan, Armenia needs to be supported.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 28 September 2020 12: 57 New
                +8
                Do you propose to fight with Azerbaijan? I'm against.
                1. vVvAD
                  vVvAD 29 September 2020 14: 04 New
                  0
                  Turn on your brains: you can support it in different ways.
                  I don’t urge to fight with Azerbaijan. We with Turkey, what: fought? And Turkey will be stronger than Azerbaijan: the 2nd strongest army in NATO.
                  And we achieve our goal soldier

                  And before minus, keep in mind that Armenia is a member of the CSTO, i.e. an official ally, on its territory, our WB in Gyumri.
                  We will not support - no one wants to stand under our banner. Let us support and put Turkey in its place - we will gain the trust of Iran (and it supports Armenia) and increase our authority on the world stage. In the world, only strength is still respected.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 29 September 2020 19: 13 New
                    0
                    Khodorkovsky says the same thing.
                    1. vVvAD
                      vVvAD 1 October 2020 14: 15 New
                      0
                      I honestly do not care what he says - he is not an authority for me.
              2. Scorpio05
                Scorpio05 29 September 2020 12: 33 New
                -1
                What is the deportation? The military actions are for the liberation of the interior regions of Azerbaijan, occupied by the Armenians; Armenians did not live and do not live there.
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            5. yehat2
              yehat2 28 September 2020 13: 57 New
              +2
              Why is Azerbaijan fighting at all? Instead of war, it was necessary to negotiate.
              I was recently in Kabardino-Balkaria. The peoples are different, but there are no problems and live side by side, simply because no one climbs on each other.
              As for Armenian aggressive separatism, Gorbachev muddied the mess. It was he who kindled this conflict.
              1. your1970
                your1970 29 September 2020 20: 26 New
                0
                Quote: yehat2
                Why is Azerbaijan fighting at all? Instead of war, it was necessary to negotiate.
                I was recently in Kabardino-Balkaria. The peoples are different, but there are no problems and live side by side, simply because no one climbs on each other.
                As for Armenian aggressive separatism, Gorbachev muddied the mess. It was he who kindled this conflict.
                -ha, about 1070 .. repeat .. "And the chapel too?" © lol
                1. yehat2
                  yehat2 30 September 2020 09: 18 New
                  0
                  study the question on the documents
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 30 September 2020 10: 10 New
                    -1
                    They have been fighting there a long time ago, an old ethnic conflict, the borders of NPOs were not set by Gorbachev ...
                    God forbid, I don't stand up for him - but to blame this question on him is at least strange
                    The parties cut each other under the tsars and under Stalin and under Brezhnev
                    1. yehat2
                      yehat2 30 September 2020 10: 13 New
                      0
                      firstly, during the time of feudalism there was no national conflict. There were just vassal feuds. The nation is an attribute of capitalism.
                      And Gorbachev was guilty of launching the very mechanism of a violent solution to the problem, and now both sides are simply taking revenge on each other, with good reason.
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 30 September 2020 10: 24 New
                        -1
                        Quote: yehat2
                        Gorbachev was guilty of launching the very mechanism of a violent solution to the problem,
                        - he instructed them to cut / shoot at each other? Oh well....
                      2. yehat2
                        yehat2 30 September 2020 10: 38 New
                        0
                        I repeat - study the role of Gorbachev in aggravating the conflict.
                      3. your1970
                        your1970 30 September 2020 12: 16 New
                        0
                        Quote: yehat2
                        I repeat - study the role of Gorbachev in aggravating the conflict.

                        I have my own opinion, you have yours .... I do not intend to change mine.
                        For a start:
                        "At the beginning of the 1905th century, Nagorno-Karabakh twice (in 1907-1918 and 1920-XNUMX) became an arena of bloody Armenian-Azerbaijani clashes."
                        And at the same time take a look - when the borders of the region were determined.
                      4. yehat2
                        yehat2 30 September 2020 13: 35 New
                        0
                        you just don't want to study history, just look at the wiki
                        in 05-07 and 18-20 there were conflicts that had nothing to do with nations. It was just a local showdown, where the nations were just a background.
                        during the collapse of the USSR, the organization of society changed.
                        were nat. republics, nat. governments and questions began to raise national
                        and Gorbachev gave the will to unleash just such conflicts.
                        You will also say that the Spartacus uprising was an ethnic conflict in Italy.
                      5. your1970
                        your1970 30 September 2020 17: 14 New
                        -1
                        Okay, talked up, Gorbachev lol lol

                        Based on your formula
                        Quote: yehat2
                        It was just a local showdown, where the nations were just a background.
                        - then any war where they kill en masse on a national basis is just a local showdown ...
                        Serbia, Tajikistan, Armenia, and further down the list
                        Oh well...
                      6. yehat2
                        yehat2 30 September 2020 17: 28 New
                        0
                        every conflict has its own history
                        but in Serbia, yes, the conflict is very similar to that.
                      7. your1970
                        your1970 30 September 2020 18: 08 New
                        -1
                        And when did the Turks staged genocide against the Armenians?
                      8. yehat2
                        yehat2 30 September 2020 20: 55 New
                        0
                        this is just a vassal showdown. It was a punitive campaign of the Turks.
                        They were cleaning not the nation, but the population of the betrayed vassal.
  • alexmach
    alexmach 28 September 2020 08: 57 New
    +4
    Azerbaijan will not dare to attack Armenia because of the CSTO and Gyumri

    Only recently there was an exacerbation precisely on the Armenian-Azerbaijani border.
    and we already understand that the blitzkrieg failed

    It's too early for such a conclusion.
    1. hrych
      hrych 28 September 2020 09: 47 New
      0
      Aggravation is aggravation and nothing more. Blitzkrieg has failed unambiguously ...
      1. Scorpio05
        Scorpio05 29 September 2020 12: 35 New
        -1
        What a blitzkrieg can be in a mountainous area saturated with fortified areas. who have been building for 26 years? Walking fine ...
        1. hrych
          hrych 29 September 2020 12: 54 New
          +3
          Quote: Scorpio05
          Walking fine ...

          Where are they going? This is a complete disaster! The tanks are destroyed in columns ...
          1. yehat2
            yehat2 30 September 2020 10: 15 New
            +1
            both sides suffer significant losses. Primarily because the experience and training of troops are weak. But judging by the course of events, Azerbaijan will soon lose its ability to actively advance. The only question is whether he is ready, as in Ukraine, to continue sluggish hostilities.
  • g1v2
    g1v2 28 September 2020 12: 07 New
    +6
    There is too much tension within Azerbaijan for Aliyev to stop the offensive without any override. He has Syrian pro-Turkish detachments, he has a lot of armored vehicles, he has Turkish drones, he has the Sultan's help. Tch he needs at least a piece of land with a couple of np to take in order to announce a change. Then you can declare an armistice and arrange a holiday about the changeover. But for now, he needs to advance, IN SPITE OF LOSSES. It will not work to advance on the class and the best equipment - there are prepared lines of defense. This means that it will be necessary to trade, sending "suicide bombers" and UAVs, opening defense nodes, minefields, firing points and positions of air defense missile systems and artillery.
  • Isim soyad
    Isim soyad 29 September 2020 11: 20 New
    +1
    The world community, the UN and the states you listed, unanimously voted for Nagorno-Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan, and the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, and FOR the unconditional implementation of 4 resolutions adopted by the UN, one of which, on unconditional and immediate release from "Armenian gangs of formations, the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh". So, Pshik, as Luka said, having jumped from the trash can to the presidency, did not find anything else that would intimidate Russia in the first place, and / or France and / or Greece. The countries that officially recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as a part of Azerbaijan, and the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan "which includes Nagorno-Karabakh" and "officially" Armenia as an "aggressor", cannot recognize Nagorno-Karabakh as part of Armenia, and if so, Armenia itself also cannot recognize "independence", this will make Armenia an official aggressor.
    1. hrych
      hrych 29 September 2020 11: 31 New
      -1
      Today FOR, and tomorrow NOT FOR. Once upon a time, Crimea was Ukrainian, and Abkhazia and South Ossetia were Georgian. In the West, they themselves began to recognize any kind of Kosovo, so they got a return (their six). Therefore, there is no constancy in the world.
      1. Isim soyad
        Isim soyad 29 September 2020 11: 44 New
        +1
        Crimea, Abkhazia and South Ossetia did not have controversial decisions, before the "dispute / war" emerged that the Russian Federation should recognize them first, and then vice versa. The dispute / war began, and the Russian Federation recognized all these regions, as it does at the moment. Russia, before the recognition, did not recognize them on the contrary, but only once, as "now." So, your example does not apply to the situation with Nagorno-Karabakh. Here, Nagorno-Karabakh was unanimously adopted as a part of the Azerbaijan Republic. And there has never been such a thing that some country would first recognize some country in this way, and then, excuse me, I now recognize it this way (on the contrary). These are not clowns, not a kindergarten, not school and street boys, today it is, and tomorrow it is different. Desired is one thing, but fact, law, officially and / or adopted, is another. Good luck to you.
  • PalBor
    PalBor 28 September 2020 10: 05 New
    +2
    In principle, I agree. But there is a difference - Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh are different in this case. The Republic of NK, by the way, recognized the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. With Russian
    Crimea has an active relationship. At least (at least) diplomatic help is needed.
  • Basil50
    Basil50 28 September 2020 07: 02 New
    43
    Yes, there is more from * give money, give more soldiers and weapons * and up to the point that RUSSIA should ............................. .................................................. ........... (enter the required).
    If Pashinyan was the only one like that in Armenia, it wouldn't be. In Armenia, the absolute majority think so. It's a pity that there are Armenians in RUSSIA who think the same way, but they don't sign up for volunteers for * great Armenia *. But they will demand from RUSSIA to protect * the weak and defenseless ..... *, sincerely forgetting that not long ago, and half a year later, they stamped their feet on Simonyan when she tried to reason with the militancy of Armenians in Armenia.
    There are more Armenians in RUSSIA than in Armenia, but how many * non-Armenians * are there in Armenia? Where have * non-Armenians * gone?
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 28 September 2020 08: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Vasily50
      Where have * non-Armenians * gone?

      Well, think, cut out a little. It happens to everyone? Full of precedents in history.
      Again, the formation of a nation, the enthusiasm of the masses.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 28 September 2020 12: 59 New
        +1
        Us it
        the formation of a nation, the enthusiasm of the masses.
        do not care. Get yourself in the neck for it.
    2. miru mir
      miru mir 28 September 2020 09: 19 New
      +1
      non-Armenians in Armenia and during the union were not crowded
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 28 September 2020 07: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: U-Gin78
    Another prodigal parrot - "Vovka, and Vovka!? ..."
    "And now I want ice cream, cake, sweets .... and more" (Vovka in a 3x9 kingdom)
    I expressed concern in connection with the military actions unleashed by the Azerbaijani side,
    fool Che worry, all life is ahead, so they will spend all of it under shelling. request
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 September 2020 07: 36 New
    +4
    Quote: U-Gin78
    Another prodigal parrot - "Vovka, and Vovka!? ..."

    Exactly noticed. Very similar. laughing
    Most likely they will. The Turks will be afraid to get in, despite the fact that the logistics are on their side ... they will get off with rhetoric ... IMHO. The CSTO attack on the country is no joke.
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 28 September 2020 10: 59 New
      -1
      If, like in Syria, their drones are overturned, they will merge immediately.
  • nnm
    nnm 28 September 2020 06: 56 New
    +4
    Yes, there is a serious risk of escalation of the conflict if Armenia turns to the CSTO, and Azerbaijan to Turkey ...
    1. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 28 September 2020 07: 36 New
      16
      The war is over Karabakh, which has nothing to do with Armenia. The CSTO will not jump into a bucket of blood for land that de jure belongs to Azerbaijan.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 28 September 2020 09: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        The war is over Karabakh, which has nothing to do with Armenia.

        Then keep the artifact. yes
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 10: 36 New
          -4
          These Albanian Churches in 1836, by decree of the Russian Tsar, were transferred to the Gregorian heretics brought to the Caucasus, whose chief Catholic (?!), Who considers himself Orthodox (!?) after the Tsar's generosity). There is no religious war in Karabakh and your "artifacts" work for these heretics for their own gain.
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 28 September 2020 12: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            in 1836, by decree of the Russian tsar, transferred to the Gregorian heretics brought to the Caucasus

            And how does your version explain the construction of the cathedral church and the vestibule-chapel by order of Princess Arzukhatun Artsruni in 1214?
            Facade of the vestibule-chapel:
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 12: 55 New
              +1
              Arzukhatun (Arzu-desire, desired, Khatun-woman, young lady) is a purely Turkic name. And we do not deny that Armenians did not live in the South Caucasus, in particular in Karabakh. For example, during the time of the Karabakh Khanate, there were 3 Armenian meliks (on the scale of Karabakh, meliks are approximately equal in size to the village council, uniting 2-3 villages. These people also had prayer buildings. But most of the Christian buildings and churches, not only in Karabakh, but throughout the Caucasus, were Albanian, Georgian and Ossetian. Armenians in the Caucasus are newcomers, mainly brought after 1828.
              The Tsar's official dealing with these issues N.I. Shavrov wrote that in the period 1828-1830, due to the absence of Armenians in the South Caucasus, 40 thousand Iranian and 84 thousand Turkish Armenians were resettled to the best lands in the Elizavetpol and Irivan provinces (now Nagorno-Karabakh).

              Later he will note that over 1 million 300 thousand Armenians living in the South Caucasus over 1 million people have nothing to do with the indigenous population. They were just resettled by us.
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 28 September 2020 14: 59 New
                0
                Quote: Oquzyurd
                Arzukhatun (Arzu-desire, desired, Khatun-woman, young lady) is a purely Turkic name.

                Great, but her husband, Prince Vakhtang Tagavorazn, is not Armenian either? bully
                Quote: Oquzyurd
                And we don’t deny that Armenians did not live in the South Caucasus, in particular in Karabakh.

                It's already good, we need to negotiate at the negotiating table, not in the trenches, long negotiations are better than a long war, isn't it, dear?
                1. Scorpio05
                  Scorpio05 29 September 2020 13: 26 New
                  -1
                  The Armenians built their gloomy churches (fortunately, small ones) everywhere, in Georgia, Iran, Ethiopia and even in the Crimea and Astrakhan, the goal of course was the same (except perhaps Ethiopia)), but unfortunately it turned out in Karabakh.
                  The penetration of Armenian feudal lords into Karabakh began later.
                  Member of the Academy of Sciences of Armenia, famous Armenian historian, academician I.A. Orbeli wrote: “Today's Nagorno-Karabakh was part of medieval Albania, and later was captured by Armenian feudal lords” (IA Orbeli “Selected Works.” Yerevan, 1963)

                  Hasan Jalaly and other princes Aranshahids and Mihranians all descended from the Persians, partly from the Sassanids, and partly, according to legend, even ascended to the Parthians Arshakids, there was nothing Armenian there. It was the Azerbaijani ruler Jahan-Shah Karakoyunlu who gave his consent to the return of the Supreme Catholicosate of the Armenian Apostolic Church from the city of Sis in Cilicia to Echmiadzin. In 1441, it was Jahan Shah who began the tradition of giving the titles of meliks to Armenian petty feudal lords, even to local and village elders. By the end of the 16th century the clan of Khachen Asan-Jalalyans received from the great Jan Shah Karakoyunlu the meliks of Gulistan and Jraberd.
                  Alaverdi II Asan-Jalalyan, who died in 1813, was the last sovereign prince of Khachen with the full title of melik. Like this...
                2. Scorpio05
                  Scorpio05 29 September 2020 13: 40 New
                  -1
                  The Armenians built their gloomy churches (fortunately, small ones) everywhere, in Georgia, Iran, Ethiopia and even in the Crimea and Astrakhan, the goal of course was the same (except perhaps Ethiopia)), but unfortunately it turned out in Karabakh.
                  The penetration of Armenian feudal lords into Karabakh began later.
                  Member of the Academy of Sciences of Armenia, famous Armenian historian, academician I.A. Orbeli wrote: “Today's Nagorno-Karabakh was part of medieval Albania, and later was captured by Armenian feudal lords” (IA Orbeli “Selected Works.” Yerevan, 1963)

                  Hasan Jalaly and other princes Aranshahids and Mihranians all descended from the Persians, partly from the Sassanids, and partly, according to legend, even ascended to the Parthians Arshakids, there was nothing Armenian there. It was the Azerbaijani ruler Jahan-Shah Karakoyunlu who gave his consent to the return of the Supreme Catholicosate of the Armenian Apostolic Church from the city of Sis in Cilicia to Echmiadzin. In 1441, it was Jahan Shah who began the tradition of giving the titles of meliks to Armenian petty feudal lords, even to local and village elders. By the end of the 16th century, the Khasan-Jalal family of Khachen received from the great Jan Shah Karakoyunlu the meliks of Gulistan and Jraberd.
                  Allahverdi II Hasan-Jalal, who died in 1813, was the last of the Hasan Jalal clan with the full title of melik. Like this...
  • uranium
    uranium 28 September 2020 07: 01 New
    52
    I wonder when he closed Russian channels and Russian schools, too, called Putin? laughing
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 28 September 2020 07: 32 New
      12

      uran (uran)
      Today, 07: 01
      NEW
      +8
      I wonder when he closed Russian channels and Russian schools, too, called Putin? laughing
      Of course not! Then he was in seventh heaven. But worldly life brings us closer to the earth, makes us look differently at national problems and laws. That is why, and asks for protection from the strong.
  • DEVIL LIFE`S
    DEVIL LIFE`S 28 September 2020 07: 10 New
    +1
    I am far from politics, but what is important in this region for Russia?
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 28 September 2020 07: 18 New
      16
      Quote: DEVIL LIFE`S
      I am far from politics

      Well, thank God
    2. Aldmit_2
      Aldmit_2 28 September 2020 07: 29 New
      +8
      Around the country, it is desirable to have a buffer of states loyal to us.
      1. Not with you
        Not with you 28 September 2020 10: 10 New
        +2
        "Buffer of loyal
        us states "......
        And why don't you
        Advisor to the President of the Russian Federation)))) ???
        Georgia, Ukraine ....
        Who is next in line now?
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 28 September 2020 11: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Aldmit_2
        Around the country, it is desirable to have a buffer of states loyal to us.

        but it was no fucking USSR to destroy .... right now, everything would be smooth, they would sit on perches and keep quiet ... "independence" wanted to - here it is, if you please.
    3. novel66
      novel66 28 September 2020 07: 54 New
      +2
      number of Armenians in Russia
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 29 September 2020 15: 31 New
        0
        There are even more Armenians in America, half of California in them. lol
        1. novel66
          novel66 29 September 2020 15: 39 New
          -1
          immediately AUG to the shores of Azerbaijan !!
  • unhappy
    unhappy 28 September 2020 07: 17 New
    24
    I didn't call Trump, I called the "occupier". Pathetic people, when your ass starts to burn, they call!
    Remember the painting "Saakashvili, Telephone and Tie." laughing
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 28 September 2020 07: 34 New
      +5
      unhappy (Alexander)
      Today, 07: 17
      NEW
      +1
      I didn't call Trump, I called the "occupier". Wretched people when the ass starts to burn - they call!
      Remember the painting "Saakashvili, Telephone and Tie." laughing
      After all, they thought that ONLY THEY and FOREVER! (of course with the help of the West and the Merikatos). But the higher you climb, the more painful it is to fall. wink
  • Ptolemy Lag
    Ptolemy Lag 28 September 2020 07: 21 New
    13
    That Luka, that Pashinyan - political pr ... ki. They want to go to the West, as they start to burn their ass, they immediately remember Russia!
    1. stasimar
      stasimar 28 September 2020 08: 08 New
      -2
      I never wanted a bow to the west
  • rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 28 September 2020 07: 21 New
    +4
    there it is, Nikolych
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 September 2020 07: 28 New
    +5
    One of the statements of Pashinyan's supporters was the need to leave the CSTO.
    Until the rooster bites in a certain place, Russia is cursed and hated. When "propped up" - help!
  • fiberboard
    fiberboard 28 September 2020 07: 34 New
    43
    Everything will be OK. I went to the market, potential fighters are in no hurry to enter the dirty trenches near Stepanakert. They trade as usual, their homeland is the counter.
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  • Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 28 September 2020 07: 47 New
    +5
    Fuck him with this roaming.
    I am very hot.
    Have already answered!
    Well hello, it's me ...
    1. novel66
      novel66 28 September 2020 07: 56 New
      +2
      maybe America
      well, at least Germany
      ah, already answered ..
      Well. hello it's me ...
  • certero
    certero 28 September 2020 07: 51 New
    23
    It was the Armenians who created the first armed detachments of the Dashnaks during the USSR back in 88. They were the first to start military operations against other nations that are part of the Union.
    in interethnic conflicts there are no whites and fluffy, both sides are always smeared. But the behavior of the Armenian state, which recently demanded from the Russians to get out, and now when the smell of fried asks for help is perplexing
  • Egoza
    Egoza 28 September 2020 07: 56 New
    10
    Well? Been "independent" and that's enough. Now you can ask for "occupation" too. Maybe they will.
    1. HAM
      HAM 28 September 2020 08: 35 New
      +9
      Elena, now Russia is rather under occupation. They are like cockroaches ..
    2. Gato
      Gato 28 September 2020 08: 46 New
      0
      Um, an interesting thought. That is, the events in the Republic of Belarus and NK were provoked by Russia in order to enlighten the "two-chair" regimes?
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana 28 September 2020 07: 59 New
    0
    Armenia, like Belarus and Russia, are members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) and calls from the President of Armenia to the President of Russia in case of aggression against his country, this is normal.

    Moreover, Russia, like other countries, according to the agreement must help Armenia. To what extent it is unclear whether Karabakh is still not the territory of Armenia, but a separate territory where ethnic Armenians mainly live.
    ....
    For those who do not understand, small countries conclude CSTO-like agreements with large ones, in the hope of protection. It went from the Middle Ages (Suzerain and Vassal)
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 08: 25 New
      -8
      "As far as theoretically, it is not clear that Karabakh is still not the territory of Armenia, but a separate territory, where mainly ethnic Armenians live." Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan, and all the CSTO countries think this way. Proceed from this and do not chase fictional theories)
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 28 September 2020 08: 35 New
        0
        Where did you see that I say that Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan? Do not invent and be more careful.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 08: 46 New
          -8
          It is not you, but I assert that Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan. All the CSTO countries also believe that Karabakh is part of Azerbaijan.
          1. Svetlana
            Svetlana 28 September 2020 08: 57 New
            +2
            Hmm ... I missed the "not" particle. "Not for Azerbaijan" I wanted to ask. In that quote of mine, which you quoted but did not read, it is also indicated: Bo Karabakh is all the same not the territory of Armenia, and a separate territory where mainly ethnic Armenians live .
            In short, be careful.
            .
            And I'm already at work and disappear from here.
            1. svoit
              svoit 28 September 2020 09: 32 New
              -1
              In this matter, the opinion of Armenia, Azerbaijan is probably not the main thing, but the international community is generally the latter, it is important what it is like among the local residents, who works and lives there.
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 28 September 2020 09: 13 New
            +2
            Maybe you, Jeyhun, then answer, why do you need this Karabakh inhabited by Armenians? You captured him tomorrow, and then what?
            Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan

            Doesn't actually belong. For many years.
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 09: 44 New
              -2
              Firstly, the absence of the expelled Azerbaijanis for 26 years does not make these territories Armenian, since the purchase of these lands is in the hands of Azerbaijan. “Why do you need this Karabakh?” Secondly, we will return there 700 thousand refugees who were expelled from NK and the adjacent 7 regions. ( a total of 828 settlements that were on the map, but are actually destroyed to the ground by the demography "reformer by neighbors".) ...
  • Artura
    Artura 28 September 2020 08: 13 New
    0
    https://youtu.be/lR5NbauENY8
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 28 September 2020 08: 19 New
    0
    I understand that in Armenia (however, as elsewhere) there are "radish people", but Armenia is one of the few states that recognized the Crimea as Russian!
    So guys, everything will be smooth.
    1. VyacheSeymour
      VyacheSeymour 28 September 2020 10: 04 New
      +3
      but Armenia is one of the few states that recognized Crimea as Russian!

      FACTS IN THE STUDIO !!!!
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  • Dave36
    Dave36 28 September 2020 08: 32 New
    0
    Aliyev said, until the complete capture of Karabakh, we will see .. let them fight ... the actions of the Kremlin are interesting ...
  • Poetry
    Poetry 28 September 2020 08: 39 New
    +2
    They remember us when it gets hot. That this potato daddy, that cunning Pashinyan.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 28 September 2020 08: 39 New
    +2
    The Kremlin's website indicates that the Russian side has expressed serious concern in

    In this case, that's right! They expressed it, and then they went ... over there, they took the report to the striped embassy ... there they would gladly accept and discuss it!
  • Gato
    Gato 28 September 2020 08: 40 New
    +2
    For 10 minutes he whinnied over the photo at the beginning of the article:
    - Chef, it's all gone!
    - Want to talk about it?
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 08: 48 New
      -5
      In the photo, Pashik is somehow green
      1. Gato
        Gato 28 September 2020 08: 54 New
        0
        Well, who will finally turn green, let's look at the results of the "blitzkrieg".
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 28 September 2020 08: 49 New
    +1
    Interestingly, our Armenians will go to defend their homeland?
    1. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 28 September 2020 09: 08 New
      +6
      Neither Armenians nor Azerbaijanis will go anywhere. They are warmer here even in winter.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 28 September 2020 11: 04 New
      +1
      Their Motherland moved here long ago.
      1. Xenofont
        Xenofont 28 September 2020 12: 09 New
        +2
        Eh, if only ... What do you think will go to defend the new Motherland? One can express doubts, and in a non-censored form!
  • Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 28 September 2020 09: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Temples
    It's time to become part of the Russian Federation and then no one will dare to fight with Armenia,

    At whose expense will the banquet be?
    Who is that kind and reliable comrade who will take on all the financial obligations to support new friends?
    1. Feliks m
      Feliks m 28 September 2020 09: 25 New
      0
      Iran is Iran, but this is who Georgia will stand for (if it burns for a long time). The tangle is so tangled there ...
      1. Grits
        Grits 28 September 2020 13: 52 New
        0
        Quote: Feliks m
        but for whom Georgia will be (if it burns for a long

        What is not clear here? Georgia will be for America, for whom else?
  • Million
    Million 28 September 2020 09: 37 New
    0
    Prostitution, there is no other name for it
  • Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 28 September 2020 09: 57 New
    +5
    The day began cheerfully. Either the Bulgarians with their "Russophilia", now Pashinyan.
    And I still remember with what rhetoric and what posters his supporters came out. Well, comrades, Armenians. How did it happen that you are calling Putin and not Navalny, Trump, Stoltenberg or Ursula von der Leyen? Where are all these slogans about the orientation towards a democratic Western course? And other slogans lit up in many neighboring countries.
    Two years ago I wrote here that making the "European choice" and pursuing an anti-Russian course with such countries as Iran, Azerbaijan and Turkey as neighbors is a very dubious undertaking. And Armenia exists in its place only due to the fact that its independence is provided by Russia.
  • Operator
    Operator 28 September 2020 10: 16 New
    +2
    Our task is not to interfere in anything in Transcaucasia, let Turkey and Iran fight to the last Armenian / Azeri.
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 28 September 2020 10: 38 New
    0
    Yerevan is not going to apply to the CSTO for assistance in connection with the aggravation in Nagorno-Karabakh - the ambassador of Armenia to the Russian Federation is asking for the Russian vaccine against coronavirus for its army in order to maintain its combat capability and prevent an outbreak of COVID-19 diseases. This is especially important given the arrival of volunteers on the front lines.
  • nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 28 September 2020 11: 00 New
    +1
    Birds that beak cannot understand that small states in the modern world are not residents. It's time to moor to the shore, otherwise they float like something in an ice hole.
  • Kushka
    Kushka 28 September 2020 11: 37 New
    +1
    [/ Quote]
    Like a dog's fifth paw, Russia needs your Armenia as part of a federation [/ quote]
    Russia at one time annexed lands, expanded
    Empire. How it looked in the Caucasus, see Lermontov,
    like in the Baltics near Sobolev "Overhaul"
    In 1917 it exploded and shattered to pieces.
    The USSR collected land for several decades
    blood (Basmachi, forest brothers, Bandera) reached
    to Berlin, Warsaw, Prague, Budapest one way and
    Tbilisi, Yerevan, Baku, Alma-ata to another. In 1991
    ripped and shattered into pieces. Well, let's go along
    third round?
    So I always wondered if there was any
    the "optimal" minimum (or maximum?), which
    would allow the USSR to avoid the problem of unbearable
    territory? After all, England and France managed to "throw off"
    all their Morocco, Algeria, Hong Kong, etc., that is, "shrink",
    to survive. But as you can see, the builders of the USSR 2.0 about
    do not think about such things.
    1. serg2108
      serg2108 1 October 2020 11: 46 New
      0
      drinks golden words
  • Tochilka
    Tochilka 28 September 2020 12: 33 New
    +1
    I guess consistency and independence the state is expressed precisely in coping with any difficulties and problems on its own. A kind of strength test.
    The call (if it really was) shows that Armenia is not an independent and independent state. And they never will. Whatever they declare the invented attributes of independence, democracy and other tinsel.
  • yfast
    yfast 28 September 2020 13: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: Retvizan 8
    but Armenia is one of the few states that recognized Crimea as Russian!

    When did you have time? She only voted against resolution 68/262.
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 28 September 2020 13: 51 New
    +1
    And before that, Pashinyan, via Twitter, "called on the entire international community" to prevent Turkey from interfering in the conflict.
    she is already actually interfering with the supply of weapons
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 28 September 2020 13: 52 New
    +3
    The Armenian prime minister called Moscow and reported about a sharp aggravation of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh.
    Why didn't you call the godfathers in Washington? And the Armenian diaspora in the United States, his own "family". Nagorno-Karabakh must become an independent state, and with whom to be friends, the people themselves will decide, it is he who bears all the hardships and hardships of irresponsible politicians. Otherwise, this knot will never be untied.
  • ZVS
    ZVS 28 September 2020 13: 57 New
    +2
    Why did Pashinyan call Putin? If he climbed into the presidency of a country that is at war with neighboring Azerbaijan, it was necessary to deal with defense issues, and not chew snot and revel in power!
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 29 September 2020 12: 29 New
    +2
    War quickly clears the brain, it's a pity just not for long.
  • demotivator
    demotivator 29 September 2020 15: 02 New
    +1
    And where did everyone get the idea that the conflict was unleashed by Azeibarjan? Because Pashinyan said so about it? Is it enough to believe? And Azerbajan stated that Armenia started. Whom to believe?
    Forgot how Pashinyan came to power? They forgot that it was with the help of the people and the "world community" that he came to power. They have forgotten that he is a pro-Western marginal who has always opposed commonwealth with Russia and for commonwealth with the West. Have you forgotten what they predicted for Armenia in the event of Pashinyan's arrival? Precisely the outbreak of war over Nagorno-Karabakh. I believe that he did not leave the CSTO either only because he would later involve Russia in the war. They are already giving us an excuse - allegedly because of the shelling, now on the territory of Armenia, a civilian died. Have we forgotten how Casus Belli is created? Like there is already a reason for Russia's intervention in the fight, it's time.
    Let's not jump to conclusions. One thing is clear. The armed aggravation of the situation did not happen by itself or by accident, but intentionally. This is a controlled process and it is directed against Russia.
    And in general, just ask there, in Armenia its leadership - whose Crimea?
  • serg2108
    serg2108 1 October 2020 11: 43 New
    0
    good Well, I wanted to write a lot, but the commentators have already written everything, the two-faced provocateur is Pashinyan, the nationalists of Armenia will kill their people! They want everything at our expense (Russia) and independence in the end, their communities (Armenians) around the world are rich enough mercenaries are collected and on the way to the liberation and retention of those territories that they have wrested from the Azerov! don’t figs climb there on their own, if the Turks don’t help Azerbaijan, IMHO