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Clashes start again in Nagorno-Karabakh

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The air forces of Azerbaijan attacked Nagorno-Karabakh. Prime Minister of Armenia

Nikol Pashinyan accused Baku of the attack.

He announced this on his Facebook page.

The Armenian Prime Minister noted that the armed forces of the unrecognized republic are holding back the aggression:

The Defense Army successfully resists the attack. The situation is in a state of operational development.

Before that, the press service of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry reported that the Armenian military fired on Azerbaijani positions and settlements on the line of contact in Nagorno-Karabakh. Civilians were killed and civilian infrastructure damaged.

The shelling was carried out from mortars, artillery of various calibers and large-caliber rifle weapons... This happened at about six in the morning local time.

There were no official comments on these statements by the Azerbaijani side from the authorities of Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh.

From time to time, hostilities are resumed, despite the fact that a ceasefire regime has been established between the parties to the conflict, which is regulated by a protocol signed in 1994. At the same time, it is clear that armed escalation is not beneficial to any of the parties - neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia.
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Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 27 September 2020 09: 08
    22
    At the same time, it is clear that armed escalation is not beneficial to any of the parties - neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia.

    It would not be profitable, they would not shoot at each other ... This means that there are interested forces that do not want peaceful coexistence.
    1. FenH
      FenH 27 September 2020 09: 11
      +9
      Quote: Doccor18
      At the same time, it is clear that armed escalation is not beneficial to any of the parties - neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia.

      It would not be profitable, they would not shoot at each other ... This means that there are interested forces that do not want peaceful coexistence.

      Turks muddy the waters again
      1. WILL
        WILL 27 September 2020 09: 17
        22
        An alarming situation. Armenia is a member of the CSTO, and Azerbaijan is a reliable trade partner! It is necessary to quickly connect diplomats and seat the "hot" guys at the negotiating table.
        1. Mouse
          Mouse 27 September 2020 09: 21
          13
          When the diplomats fall silent, the guns start talking ...
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 27 September 2020 09: 27
            +5
            Why do we need a war near the southern borders ???
            1. Mouse
              Mouse 27 September 2020 09: 29
              11
              Well, he does not sit on the priest exactly ... everyone wants at least a piece, but to snatch ...
              1. novel66
                novel66 27 September 2020 09: 42
                +7
                you can't snatch it already .. war for the sake of war ..
                1. Mouse
                  Mouse 27 September 2020 09: 47
                  +7
                  Do your hands itch? Nonsense ... just someone needs it and this one will warm his hands ... definitely ... yes
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 27 September 2020 10: 00
                    +5
                    right, how many years is the war in Ukraine? and who needs it?
                    1. Mouse
                      Mouse 27 September 2020 10: 06
                      +5
                      and who needs it?

                      One thing is clear ... that neither me nor you ...
                      All the instability in the world lies in three words - the United States of America ... from them all ... derivatives ...
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 27 September 2020 10: 11
                        +6
                        close back America ... (c) BI-2
                      2. Mouse
                        Mouse 27 September 2020 10: 17
                        15
                        It's great that America was discovered, but it would be much more wonderful if Columbus sailed by ...
                        Mark Twain
                      3. Campanella
                        Campanella 27 September 2020 10: 23
                        +5
                        It's not about America, the impudent Saxons who mastered it.
                      4. Mouse
                        Mouse 27 September 2020 10: 28
                        +7
                        Actually ... the words - mastery and enslavement have different meanings ...
                      5. Campanella
                        Campanella 27 September 2020 10: 36
                        0
                        The meaning is different, but all this disgrace began with the development of America by the waste of Western civilization, in the process of which enslavement took place.
                      6. Masha
                        Masha 27 September 2020 11: 23
                        +3
                        Came, saw, captured ...
    2. Vladimir Demyanov
      Vladimir Demyanov 27 September 2020 11: 25
      +7
      I had two students, Gusein and Artem. A cheerful Azerbaijani and a sad Armenian. In the 5th grade then both studied. So Huseyn asks me: "BB, I am an Azerbaijani, but my best friend is an Armenian. Why don't we fight and quarrel." I then answered him: "You have nothing to share. You are still small. Let it always be so, otherwise it may happen that the elders teach you to be at enmity." So it is here. Someone needs to benefit. Was there just a message that the shelling was in the Aghdam region? And then Karabakh. Like about 6 am.
      1. Masha
        Masha 27 September 2020 11: 32
        +3
        You are still small. Let it always be like this, otherwise it may happen that the elders teach you to be at enmity. "

        Morality-
        Don't listen to adults! They will teach you bad ...
        Remain in innocent ignorance ...
      2. Russ
        Russ 27 September 2020 12: 04
        +1
        You are still small. May it always be so

        Little ones have this tendency .... to grow up!
      3. Alex777
        Alex777 27 September 2020 12: 22
        -5
        Pashinyan has no results. The ratings are falling.
        Political reliance on soros. So they are rocking the CSTO.
        Like if we are not protected, then we need to leave the CSTO.
        There are still questions - who benefits from it?
  • Sefevi2020
    Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 10: 24
    -17 qualifying.
    Quote: ANIMAL
    An alarming situation. Armenia is a member of the CSTO

    You push the word CSTO MEMBER everywhere. And the reality is that the Armenians do not want to be in the CSTO. They do not want to be in alliance with Russia. Do not you really do not understand this so far ??? They start the provocation, they sleep and see how Russia will intervene (as always) in their provocation. And if he does not interfere, there will be a reason to JUMP. A very tricky and deliberate step.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 27 September 2020 11: 38
      -1
      without Russia kirdyk armenia
      1. Romey
        Romey 27 September 2020 12: 08
        14
        Of course kerdyk ... We urgently need to announce a general mobilization in all markets and shavermyachnyh in the Russian Federation and send the draft deviators to fight for their homeland. Well, to the same place, from the same place, to deport the "enemies" of Azerbaijanis as agents of influence
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 27 September 2020 12: 10
          -2
          yeah, they are mobilizing))))
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 27 September 2020 16: 20
            +5
            They are mobilized and will completely move to live in Russia with their numerous relatives.
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 27 September 2020 15: 05
          +4
          Quote: romey
          and send the deviators to fight for their homeland. Well, to the same place, from the same place, to deport the "enemies" of Azerbaijanis as agents of influence

          A bright, but, alas, a pipe dream - an anecdote about bedbugs and a sofa immediately comes to mind. yes
    2. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 19
      +2
      It is unlikely that the situation is as you describe it.
      Non-intervention by Russia is fraught with the defeat of Armenia. The Armenians do not need this at all.
      1. Romey
        Romey 27 September 2020 12: 35
        +9
        Yes, it's easy ... To form a Cherkizovsky legion out of Azerbaijanis and send them to the front, so that they carry on corrupting propaganda among the nasty Turk-Nazis. What? We are supposedly also Russians, and not some kind of nationalists. Throw down the machine, let's go to Moscow to sell the tomato momidor ...)))))
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 27 September 2020 15: 37
          +1
          Mobilize both. And to Karabakh. Let them figure out whose Chirkizon is.
      2. miner
        miner 27 September 2020 15: 27
        +1
        The most important thing is to have time to place machine guns at the border in order to exclude replenishment of market traders in Russia.
    3. Pereira
      Pereira 27 September 2020 15: 36
      +1
      Then they won't leave Azerbaijan.
    4. Gunter prereen
      Gunter prereen 27 September 2020 22: 54
      +1
      It would be nice if they jumped off!
  • LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 27 September 2020 10: 42
    13
    Quote: ANIMAL
    Armenia is a member of the CSTO, and Azerbaijan is a reliable trade partner!

    Karabakh does not fall under the CSTO. If they start hitting the territory of Armenia, then yes ...
    I may express a seditious thought and "run into" accordingly, but I would change Armenia to Azerbaijan in the CSTO and the CU.
    Hi Aleksey! hi
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 23
      +7
      I would also support you in this because Azerbaijan could be a more solvent partner.

      But only Russia does not need Azerbaijan. The only point on which Azerbaijan would want to temporarily make friends with Russia is that Russia should not help Armenia, which is suffering defeat. And after the defeat of Armenia, Azerbaijan will not need Russia. And Azerbaijan will wipe its feet on Russia. For example, it will allow Turkey or the United States to build a naval base in the Caspian Sea.

      Therefore, Russia is obliged to support Armenia despite the fact that Pashinyan is pursuing a seemingly not very friendly policy towards Russia.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 27 September 2020 12: 44
        +4
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        For example, it will allow Turkey or the United States to build a naval base in the Caspian Sea.

        I disagree with you, according to the treaties concerning the Caspian Sea, no one can build military bases (foreign) without the consent of other participants.
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        But only Russia does not need Azerbaijan.

        And here, I disagree ... We are too closely connected.
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 59
          +4
          Any international treaty provides for the possibility of withdrawal from it. And without any reprisals from other parties to the agreement. Therefore, Azerbaijan will easily withdraw from the agreement on the Caspian Sea when the agreement becomes unprofitable for it.

          And Russia and Azerbaijan have no ties, except for migration. But Aliyev doesn't give a damn about that, even though he himself once lived in Moscow.
          1. Victorio
            Victorio 27 September 2020 22: 59
            +1
            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            Therefore, Azerbaijan will easily withdraw from the agreement on the Caspian Sea when the agreement is not beneficial to it.

            ===
            it is quite possible that this is being pushed. Caspian - trunk near the head for the Middle East
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 27 September 2020 19: 58
          +2
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          Quote: Aleksandr1971
          For example, it will allow Turkey or the United States to build a naval base in the Caspian Sea.

          I disagree with you, according to the treaties concerning the Caspian Sea, no one can build military bases (foreign) without the consent of other participants.

          How long does it take to denounce the treaty? Like children to God ...

          As one politician from the modern "ancient ukrov" said: "Promise the Donbass, whatever, we will hang it on the lanterns later."
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 27 September 2020 19: 55
        -2
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        Russia is obliged to support Armenia despite the fact that Pashinyan is pursuing a seemingly not very friendly policy towards Russia.

        And
        Russia is obliged to support
        RB
        despite the fact that
        Old Man
        leads a seemingly not very friendly policy towards Russia.

        The Russian Federation does not owe anything to anyone, the USSR is almost 30 years old, and the Russian Federation still owes something to someone .. who should or not?
    2. Grits
      Grits 28 September 2020 01: 38
      +2
      Quote: LiSiCyn
      I may express a seditious thought and "run into" accordingly, but I would change Armenia to Azerbaijan in the CSTO and the CU.

      I am already inclined to such a thought. especially after the Armenians rode at the rallies for the pro-Western Pashinyan. And the Armenians living in Russia also strenuously drowned for him and shouted how wonderful their homeland would be without Russia, but with the United States
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 28 September 2020 02: 00
        +2
        Besides the base in Gyumri, what can Armenia offer us? Eternal debtors, moreover not grateful. Having now South Ossetia and Abkhazia, we can easily do without them.
        And here is Azerbaijan, a self-sufficient republic. Payment is capable and without pronounced Russophobia.
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 28 September 2020 03: 44
          +3
          Gyumri does not provide much benefit to Russia. But thanks to Armenia, Russia receives information about the air situation in the Caucasus. And this is important for defense. If Armenia loses, it will understand that Russia is useless as an ally.

          Azerbaijan is solvent, he just wanted to spit on Russia. Russia is violet to them, as well as its own migrant workers in Russia.

          Why did you decide that as soon as Russia reorients to Azerbaijan, then Azerbaijan will suddenly become a friend of Russia? We cannot offer them anything. And they buy weapons from us only until the moment Armenia is defeated.

          You need to be able to think logically and see the prospects of what these or those changes in geopolitics will cost. As soon as Armenia is defeated, Russia will not have a speck of influence in the Transcaucasus.
      2. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 28 September 2020 03: 47
        +2
        You think emotionally, not geopolitically.

        I would also not mind changing Armenia to Azerbaijan. But only Azerbaijan is interested in Russia only up to the second while Russia supports Armenia.

        If this Russian support disappears, then Azerbaijan will definitely not "choose" Russia, no matter how long you kiss it.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 07: 24
          -2
          You are deeply mistaken and think in terms of the geopolitics of the 19th century. In the 21st century, in the new realities of thought and views, Azerbaijan is not only a state of the South Caucasus, but is also a part of the Turkic world, which is partly inside Russia itself, on the other hand is a direct neighbor of Russia from the south-west and from the south on vast territories with a huge population. This factor should be taken into account. The approach of the Russian Federation to Azerbaijan in the near and medium term is an example-standard for other Turkic-speaking countries in which the Russian Federation intends to retain its influence. It would be logical to reason .Supporting 3 million Armenia and pushing away 10 million Azerbaijan (which 140 million Turks of Asia Minor and Central Asia are watching intently, etc.) what benefit can be gained, or lost in the end, in the realities of the 21st century. Now, in the reverse order, reason , supporting the 10 millionth Azerbaijan, etc.
          "If this Russian support disappears, then Azerbaijan will definitely not" choose "Russia, no matter how long you kiss it." Weight is the post-Soviet period (since 1992) and even now Azerbaijan is the most reasonable and friendly state in relation to Russia, with the understanding that we are eternal neighbors living in the same geographical space. Based on this, it is better to be friends than to do some kind of prank, so as if not today, then all the same tomorrow it will return many times. I think that the Russian Federation is late in developing a new concept in relation to close neighbors.
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 27 September 2020 12: 31
    -1
    Quote: ANIMAL
    An alarming situation. Armenia is a member of the CSTO, and Azerbaijan is a reliable trade partner! It is necessary to quickly connect diplomats and seat the "hot" guys at the negotiating table.

    And how long can you seat them? Let them grind each other a little. If the problem cannot be solved peacefully for decades, then war is inevitable. Let them fight.
    1. Gunter prereen
      Gunter prereen 27 September 2020 22: 57
      +1
      I agree. This conflict will be resolved only by military victory. After which miir will come!
  • Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 27 September 2020 09: 18
    +6
    Armenia and Azerbaijan would have formed some Transcaucasian Federal Republic with the capital in Nagorno-Karabakh and lived in peace.
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      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 27 September 2020 09: 24
        +4
        I propose to unite Azerbaijan, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh into one state.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 27 September 2020 09: 29
          +2
          Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
          I propose to unite Azerbaijan, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh into one state.

          With different religions in countries, this is hardly possible!
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 27 September 2020 09: 31
            14
            We need to get rid of all this religious nonsense long ago. Religion destroys, divides and inclines people to war.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 27 September 2020 09: 33
              11
              Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Religion destroys, divides and inclines people to war.

              Didn't you fight in the primitive communal system?
              1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                Nikolay Ivanov_5 27 September 2020 09: 34
                +7
                I want to say that no one religion leads people to peace and prosperity.
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 27 September 2020 09: 37
                  +5
                  Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                  I want to say that no one religion leads people to peace and prosperity.

                  Before religions appeared, people fought the same way!
                  1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                    Nikolay Ivanov_5 27 September 2020 09: 38
                    +8
                    But wars for the faith were the most bloody.
                  2. SRC P-15
                    SRC P-15 27 September 2020 09: 44
                    +2
                    Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                    But wars for the faith were the most bloody.

                    It's just a different scale - the population has increased and the weapons have improved. In the event of a nuclear war, I think, religion will have nothing to do with it.
                  3. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 27 September 2020 10: 54
                    +6
                    Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                    But wars for the faith were the most bloody.

                    For LAND, for RESOURCES, all wars.

                    World wars as an example for you. What kind of ... religion ?!

                    You will also say that the conquistadors destroyed, captured and enslaved ... for missionary purposes
                  4. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                    Nikolay Ivanov_5 27 September 2020 11: 06
                    0
                    Is it possible to reject the assertion that religion is one of the reasons for the outbreak of wars ???
                  5. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 27 September 2020 12: 13
                    0
                    Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                    Is it possible to reject the assertion that religion is one of the reasons for the outbreak of wars ???

                    Rather, it should be assumed that economic interests lie at the heart of the emergence of certain conflicts, and religion has always supported the authorities and, accordingly, carried out an "ideological justification" for certain actions of the authorities. This is especially evident in the example of the first crusades, when states that emerged on the ruins of the Western Roman Empire fought for their economic interests in the eastern Mediterranean.
              2. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 27 September 2020 11: 09
                +3
                Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
                But wars for the faith were the most bloody.

                Do you think that religion was the root cause of the Crusades? Holy simplicity...
            2. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 27 September 2020 11: 50
              -4
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Before religions appeared, people fought the same way!

              Religion, that is, belief in ancestors, in spirits, etc., is clearly indicated in archaeological sources, in my opinion, since the Neolithic era.
            3. Hypertension
              Hypertension 27 September 2020 12: 35
              0
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Before religions appeared, people fought the same way!

              Religions arose almost immediately after the appearance of reason in man. Totemism, Animism and the like. Another thing is that religion is always a convenient excuse to start a war over territory and resources.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 27 September 2020 11: 40
            +1
            Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
            I want to say that no one religion leads people to peace and prosperity.

      2. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 13: 17
        +4
        I agree that religion is nonsense.

        And now let's say: "By the pike's will, by my will, let all people stop believing in any gods and gods and other supernatural nonsense!" good
    2. Sefevi2020
      Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 10: 25
      0
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      With different religions in countries, this is hardly possible!

      Is it possible in Russia? IN USA? In Europe? And why is it not possible in our country, all the more so historically it has already been. Do you think that this ethnic group just got the Turkic surnames?
    3. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 27 September 2020 11: 21
      -1
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      With different religions in countries, this is hardly possible!

      I beg your pardon, but in Russia and the United States there are different religions ..... how is that? recourse
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 27 September 2020 11: 44
        0
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        I beg your pardon, but in Russia and the United States there are different religions ..... how is that?

        In Russia, remember General Yermolov, and in the USA the Ku-Klux-Klan!
        In no case do I put Ermolov and the Ku Klux Klan on the same level! stop
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 27 September 2020 09: 39
    +1
    I propose to unite Azerbaijan, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh into one state.

    Sounds like an unfunny joke .. wassat
    Christians with Muslims ...
    Even the Sunnis cannot "make friends" with the Shiites ... And you, eka were enough ...
    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 27 September 2020 09: 41
      0
      But they won't have to share anything else.
      1. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 27 September 2020 11: 01
        +1
        But they won't have to share anything else.


        Not. You are wrong Armenians will be cut out in a couple of months .... and then there will be nothing to divide. You are right here.
    2. novel66
      novel66 27 September 2020 09: 43
      11
      no, well, we live normally with the Tatars ... maybe not such a bad idea
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 27 September 2020 09: 51
        +9
        Quote: novel xnumx
        no, well, we live normally with the Tatars ... maybe not such a bad idea

        But would we get along with the Tatars if it were the opposite in terms of population and territory? Something vague doubts torment me. yes
        1. novel66
          novel66 27 September 2020 10: 01
          +1
          where would they go (or we)
      2. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 27 September 2020 11: 03
        +3
        no, well, we live normally with the Tatars ... maybe not such a bad idea

        They also lived in the USSR, were friends and got married. (The power was strong)
      3. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 25
        +1
        This is because the Tatars are generally under the Russians. With the same success it could be said that under the Mongols, Russia lived well for 200 years.
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    4. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 27 September 2020 12: 19
      -1
      Quote: Doccor18
      Christians with Muslims ...
      Even the Sunnis cannot "make friends" with the Shiites ... And you, eka were enough ...

      The USSR did it well. And one of the reasons is the "excommunication" of any churches from the state trough.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 27 September 2020 10: 24
    +4
    It would be more correct to become a part of the Union State with Russia.
    1. Vladimir Demyanov
      Vladimir Demyanov 27 September 2020 11: 40
      +2
      I live, as one of my acquaintances said, "in the Russian suburb of Yerevan," in the Caucasus. Nothing. True, women in hijabs and Armenian riding like, “you don’t see - I’m driving” to red ... You can always find a common language, as well as a reason for a fight. Now there are more reasons to fight.
    2. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 28
      +3
      Transcaucasia is a problem region. There will be no economic profit from joining Russia.

      And there will be unrest, there will be reasoning for the local population, which will periodically rebel against Russia.

      Transcaucasia is beneficial for Russia without Caucasians. But to expel the Caucasians from the Caucasus - this time Russia foolishly lost 100-200 years ago. Russia has no strength to return those times.
      1. vex
        vex 27 September 2020 18: 34
        -1
        The Armenians also asked Peter to enter the region (read about the Armenian priest Israel Ori). For many years he was shackled by the wars in the Baltic States. And later, a not entirely successful (not for military reasons) campaign took place. I mean that the region is problematic not because all the locals are militant, but only for one reason: a certain force does not stop pursuing an expansionist policy.
        I think it is clear what kind of power it is and where it is aiming next. It has an ideology, economic resources, and an independent military industry (missiles, drones, etc.). Armenia is like a bone in their throat, for them this is only the initial stage of their advance towards the North Caucasus, North Iran, Central Asia, the Volga region, Siberia, Xinjiang and other "Turkic" regions. If for a long time, it is extremely unprofitable for Russia to defeat Armenia and the geographical connection between Turkey and Azerbaijan. And all Aliyev's talk about the fact that "Iravan" was once presented to the Armenians by the Azerbaijanis is the substantiation of claims on the territory of Armenia, which should become a connecting link with Turkey.
        It is also clear that the West supports Pan-Turkism as the main internal and external force that has the ability to dismember Russia. Therefore, those who declare equidistance from the parties to the conflict look naive. It is not about Armenians and Azerbaijanis. It is ultimately about Russia.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 27 September 2020 11: 16
    +3
    I propose to unite Azerbaijan, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh into one state.


    Why stuff the comments feed with nonsense?
  • Vita vko
    Vita vko 27 September 2020 12: 22
    +5
    Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
    I propose to unite Azerbaijan, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh into one state

    It is enough to recognize as illegal the Belovezhskaya agreement, which was concluded by three alcoholics as contrary to the will of the people expressed in the 1991 referendum.
    1. your1970
      your1970 27 September 2020 20: 21
      0
      Quote: Vita VKO
      It is enough to recognize as illegal the Belovezhskaya agreement, which was concluded by three alcoholics as contrary to the will of the people expressed in the 1991 referendum.
      -Let's admit it was recognized and ?? !!! then what ?? Someone from the CIS states will rush back ??
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 28 September 2020 05: 27
        +2
        Quote: your1970
        Someone from the CIS states will rush back ??

        This will be only the first stage in correcting a historical mistake for which it is necessary to create a legal basis for starting a dialogue with the political-capitalist elite of states. Half of the politicians of the CIS states in one way or another use for their ratings declarative statements about friendship and economic integration with Russia. It is only necessary to transfer all these declarative statements to a qualitatively new level. For example, the Belarusian elites are almost ripe for deepening integration processes with Russia, otherwise they simply will not survive. And so far, without any legal basis and a referendum, the people will simply force the politicians aspiring to become tsars.
        1. your1970
          your1970 28 September 2020 06: 20
          +1
          Quote: Vita VKO
          For example, the Belarusian elites are almost ripe for deepening integration processes with Russia, otherwise they simply will not survive.

          If they- ripe, then Tikhanovskaya would quickly choke on bread and that's it ...
          Quote: Vita VKO
          declarative statements about friendship and economic integration with Russia.

          You yourself wrote - that they declarative.No elite will go to unification, after that it will cease to be an elite ... Even during the Soviet era, none of the countries joined us. And even under capitalism, talking about the unification of the ruling elites is nonsense ...
          1. Vita vko
            Vita vko 28 September 2020 08: 34
            0
            Quote: your1970
            And even under capitalism, talking about the unification of the ruling elites is nonsense ...

            But what about the countries aspiring to the EU? Globalization in the high-tech age is an inevitable process. Unlike nationalist distancing, any unification under wild capitalism provides powerful competitive advantages. Now there is only a struggle on whose terms this association will be and who will become the integrator of the process.
            1. your1970
              your1970 28 September 2020 10: 04
              +1
              Quote: Vita VKO
              But what about the countries aspiring to the EU?

              Remind you of the goals of joining the EU? There are two of them: 1) get dough, a lot of dough for the state, 2) great "Visa-free" for the population .....
              Who got the technology from the Young ESC?
              Limitrophs? Poles? Any Serbs / Romanians / Bulgarians ???? What nafig competitive advantages, they sit with bare butts and beg for money ... No more ... Having previously killed their industry to zero ...
            2. Vita vko
              Vita vko 28 September 2020 12: 27
              0
              Quote: your1970
              1) get a dough, a lot of dough for the state, 2) a great "visa-free" for the population.

              These are not goals, they are the result of the actions of European transnational corporations. Moreover, the "state loot" is a penny in comparison with the income of the population, and visa-free travel is just necessary to reduce these incomes and increase the amount of cheap labor force. According to
              EU politicians and the management of corporations financing their local burgers stupidly got drunk, they just don't know about it yet. As the saying goes "nothing personal ...."
              Quote: your1970
              Having previously killed your industry to zero ...

              Why do they need competitors?
            3. your1970
              your1970 28 September 2020 13: 29
              +1
              Quote: Vita VKO

              Why do they need competitors?
              by this you contradict yourself - early
              Quote: Vita VKO
              Unlike nationalist distancing, any unification under wild capitalism provides powerful competitive advantages
              - which we see in all states of the Young Essovites- no They did not receive any competitive advantages from the merger ... ... So only loot ...

              I'm 200% lol I am sure that if tomorrow you promise to pay a trillion dollars for joining an alliance with the Russian Federation to the first five states whose leaders will come running to the Kremlin first, it will be Sheremetyevo ... And oh, not the fact that there will be no Poland belay and Ukraine repeat
              Laughter laughter - why the hell is not joking ...
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 27 September 2020 12: 35
    +3
    Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
    I propose to unite Azerbaijan, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh into one state.

    And make the capital Magadan.
  • miner
    miner 27 September 2020 15: 31
    +3
    Azerbaijanis and Ars can live together only when someone else is standing with a club over their heads)
  • Do not care
    Do not care 27 September 2020 20: 03
    0
    I propose to unite Azerbaijan, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh into one state.


    Nagorno Armenbayjan
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 24
    0
    You have expressed a stupid idea.
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 13: 03
    +1
    With the same success, wish to create now a unified state of Israel and Palestine. Or a single state of Bashar al-Assad and ISIS, or in 1945 - a single state of the Stalinist USSR and Hitlerite Germany.
    All in all a stupid proposal.
  • Sefevi2020
    Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 10: 22
    -17 qualifying.
    Quote: FenH
    Turks muddy the waters again

    What have the Turks to do with it? Do you think a war can start without a green light from the Kremlin? Don't be naive.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 27 September 2020 20: 38
      +1
      Quote: Sefevi2020
      Quote: FenH
      Turks muddy the waters again

      What has the Turks to do with it?

      Think nothing to do with?
      Do not be naive.


      Do you think a war can start without a green light from the Kremlin?

      It looks like you only think about it ...
  • Maz
    Maz 27 September 2020 12: 39
    +1
    Uh-huh, we started on Sunday in the best traditions of Adolf Hitler. Strange sho not at night. although for Muslims this is the first day of the week, but for Armenians this Sunday is a day off! So the aizers are in fluff.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 27 September 2020 10: 24
    0
    If it is not beneficial to either one or the other, then there is a third person who is of paramount importance.
  • Insurgent
    Insurgent 27 September 2020 10: 27
    +3
    Children in the bomb shelter of Stepanakert ...


  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 27 September 2020 11: 20
    +3
    It would not be profitable, they would not shoot at each other ... This means that there are interested forces that do not want peaceful coexistence.


    Azerbaijan provokes hostilities, they greatly infringe on the outcome of the war for Karabakh, they want revenge.

    Now Azerbaijan is cooperating with Turkey, pumping up its army with weapons and preparing society for war.

    Armenia should prepare for this and only Russia can save them. Armenia is doomed without Russia.
    1. Sefevi2020
      Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 12: 12
      -5
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Azerbaijan provokes hostilities

      Is it provoking?))))))))) Azerbaijan and the whole world say that Armenian soldiers leave Karabakh. Don't you recognize international law? Without rules and laws, people will become animals (an extract from the film John Wick)

      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Armenia should prepare for this and only Russia can save them.

      Pashinyan doesn't think so
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 27 September 2020 12: 34
        +2
        Quote: Sefevi2020
        Don't you recognize international law? Without rules and laws, people will become animals (an extract from the film John Wick)

        When they destroyed the union, they did not expect that new nationalist formations could also receive a little circumcision. Now you remember international law.
        1. Sefevi2020
          Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 14: 18
          -3
          Quote: Humpty
          When the union was destroyed

          yes, here we took and destroyed the union)))))))))))))))))
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 27 September 2020 18: 10
        0
        Why should Armenian soldiers leave Karabakh where Armenians live?

        Why did Azerbaijan decide at all that Nagorno-Karabakh, where the majority of Armenians lived and live, is its territory?
      3. vex
        vex 27 September 2020 18: 41
        0
        Azerbaijan and the whole world speaks
        Take it higher - the whole galaxy is also for Azerbaijan. Especially those constellations into which spaceships with caviar and green pieces of paper rush.
        Only a madman would argue that a soldier in his homeland is an occupier. The world has not yet gone completely crazy.
      4. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 27 September 2020 20: 50
        0
        Quote: Sefevi2020
        Without rules and laws, people will become animals (an extract from the film John Wick)

        Rules and laws - turn people into "flocks and shepherds".
        Quote: Sefevi2020
        Azerbaijan and the whole world are telling the Armenian soldiers to leave Karabakh. Don't you recognize international law?
        Reminds the situation with Crimea - Crimea is OUR Russia, "the whole world" can be directed "towards the forest" ... In Armenia, according to Artsal, the same answer.
  • Maz
    Maz 27 September 2020 12: 13
    0
    Destruction of aizertanks


    Divisions of the Artsakh Defense Army destroyed 2 more T-72 "Aslan" tanks.

    equipment of the Armenian Ministry of Defense goes to the border with the AZR

    Volunteers - Yerevan


    Armenian government declared martial law in the country and general mobilization due to events in Karabakh
    Our response will be as tough as ever. The Armenian army has all the necessary means to crush our enemy again - Armenian Defense Minister Tonoyan

    What is the Armenian soldier doing in the Azerbaijani lands? Our cause is right and we will win - Aliyev - here is a bastard ...
    1. Sefevi2020
      Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 14: 25
      -2
      Quote: Maz
      Our response will be as tough as ever. Armenian Defense Minister Tonoyan

      Is it very convenient for him to shout from Bulgaria?))))))))))))) Let's see what you do)
  • Maz
    Maz 27 September 2020 12: 27
    +3
    T-72A Aslan (Azerbaijan) - modernization option, developed by the Israeli company Elbit Systems. The tank is equipped with a computerized control system, a GPS-based navigation system, a friend-or-foe detection system, thermal imagers for the commander and gunner, and a mounted DZ.

    Divisions of the Artsakh Defense Army destroyed 2 more T-72 "Aslan" tanks. Thanks to Israel for training the Azeybardzhan army. We understand - nothing personal. But we warned about this and Israel fully justified our worst predictions. So don't whine, why don't they love you, that's why including ...
  • sailor roman
    sailor roman 28 September 2020 13: 02
    0
    A week before the start of hostilities, Trump issued an order to ban the appearance of US citizens near the border of Azerbaijan and Nagorno-Karabakh, Erdogan transferred more than XNUMX militants from Syria to Azerbaijan to the border with Karabakh. Therefore....?
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 27 September 2020 09: 09
    +4
    Right now, they will blame each other.
  • FenH
    FenH 27 September 2020 09: 10
    +6
    it can be seen for a reason that information on the network slipped through that militants were being thrown into Azerbaijan from Syria. Now the air defense of armenia should not clap its ears, it is necessary to lower all Azerbaijani-Turkish unmanned aerial vehicles to the ground so that the Syrian-Libyan consequences do not come
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 27 September 2020 09: 15
      18
      Quote: FenH
      must, all Azerbaijani-Turkish drones should be lowered to the ground

      Already ... As stated by the Armenian side, 2 helicopters and 3 UAVs were shot down.
      1. FenH
        FenH 27 September 2020 09: 17
        +4
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        Quote: FenH
        must, all Azerbaijani-Turkish drones should be lowered to the ground

        Already ... As stated by the Armenian side, 2 helicopters and 3 UAVs were shot down.

        So the Azerbaijanis say that 12 air defense units carried hi
        1. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 27 September 2020 09: 57
          +4
          Quote: FenH
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          Quote: FenH
          must, all Azerbaijani-Turkish drones should be lowered to the ground

          Already ... As stated by the Armenian side, 2 helicopters and 3 UAVs were shot down.

          So the Azerbaijanis say that 12 air defense units carried hi


          According to the reports of the "muzzle book", 3 more tanks were destroyed by the Armenians.
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          2. Pytnik
            Pytnik 27 September 2020 11: 25
            +2
            That's right, the Ministry of Defense of Armenia and the video posted
            1. loki565
              loki565 27 September 2020 13: 44
              +3
              Here, obviously, we drove into a minefield
      2. Black_Vatnik
        Black_Vatnik 27 September 2020 09: 18
        +3
        The Azerbaijani side claims that they destroyed 12 Armenian "wasp" air defense systems.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 27 September 2020 09: 25
          11
          Quote: Black_Jacket
          The Azerbaijani side claims that they destroyed 12 Armenian "wasp" air defense systems.

          This is where they "grabbed them in bulk"? Do you have additional information?
          1. FenH
            FenH 27 September 2020 09: 28
            +1
            Quote: Insurgent
            Quote: Black_Jacket
            The Azerbaijani side claims that they destroyed 12 Armenian "wasp" air defense systems.

            This is where they "grabbed them in bulk"? Do you have additional information?

            so far only the statements of the parties, the information will then be
          2. Black_Vatnik
            Black_Vatnik 27 September 2020 09: 41
            +1
            This is, as usual, one side declares one thing, the other another. We take the arithmetic mean and get an approximate truth.
          3. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 27 September 2020 10: 08
            -7
            These installations have been known for a long time, they are destroyed from time to time. And this time they were the first targets, since there is a danger to the air from them. 1 helicopter was shot down, the crew is alive. In a couple of hours the losses will be more visible, so far, little talk about it.
      3. FenH
        FenH 27 September 2020 09: 29
        +1
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        Quote: FenH
        must, all Azerbaijani-Turkish drones should be lowered to the ground

        Already ... As stated by the Armenian side, 2 helicopters and 3 UAVs were shot down.

        Azerbaijanis have so far only confirmed
    2. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 27 September 2020 10: 04
      -15 qualifying.
      Azerbaijan has its own army, well-equipped, trained and numerous. There is no need for mercenaries and all this is a fake rumor. That is why you do not write about information on the network, which says that PKK (Kurds) militants were dragged to Armenia to fight against Azerbaijan?
      Armenia's air defense suffered a little, 12 "Osa" installations were destroyed in an hour
      1. bobwings
        bobwings 27 September 2020 11: 41
        -4
        Armenians openly populate occupied Karabakh with Armenian refugees from Syria and bankrupt Lebanon, among not many people with military experience. This is true, but infa about the Islamist kambatants fighting for Azerbaijan is dirty disinformation. Azerbaijan is a pro-Western developed country, whose army is armed with modern weapons allowing to put a missile into the embrasure of a bunker from 25 km. They do not need help from the barmaley and broads, the connection with which will stain the face of the country for a long time
        1. Grits
          Grits 28 September 2020 02: 23
          +1
          Quote: bobwings
          whose army is armed with modern weapons allowing to put the missile into the embrasure of the bunker from 25 km.

          Wow! belay Will you show how you can do it?
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      4. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 29
        +6
        I will assume that Azerbaijan will try to carry out a powerful offensive with the expectation of a complete defeat of the Armenians in Karabakh. If Azerbaijan succeeds in this, then a completely different geopolitical situation will arise in the region.
      5. Grits
        Grits 28 September 2020 02: 21
        0
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        Armenia's air defense suffered a little, 12 "Osa" installations were destroyed in an hour

        What is it - they blew up the warehouse where all the missile defense systems of Armenia were stored?
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 07: 33
          -3
          They identified their locations in advance, they knew. Several Bayraktar TV-2 was not a problem ...
    3. Sefevi2020
      Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 10: 26
      -14 qualifying.
      Quote: FenH
      Now the air defense of armenia should not clap ears

      12 OSA systems have already been destroyed by Armenia. Azerbaijan lost the helicopter but the crew survived.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 27 September 2020 11: 42
        -2
        Azerbaijan lost 3 tanks
        1. Sefevi2020
          Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 12: 13
          -8
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          Azerbaijan lost 3 tanks

          why so little? Maybe 30? Can you show at least 1 fact?)
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 27 September 2020 15: 29
            -3
            above the video was shown
        2. Grits
          Grits 28 September 2020 02: 30
          +1
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          Azerbaijan lost 3 tanks

          3 tanks is not critical. But Azerbaijan is starting to pull out the air defense of Armenia. To be honest, I don't really believe in the destruction of 12 "Wasps". But the main thing here is the trend. This means Azerbaijan is preparing the ground for the massive use of aviation. And if he succeeds in destroying a sufficient part of the air defense, then Armenia will have a very, very difficult time.
    4. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 27 September 2020 11: 05
      +5
      it can be seen that it was not for nothing that information on the network slipped through that militants were being transferred to Azerbaijan from Syria.


      A mercenary will never come unless practical actions are planned (this is an indicator). The mercenary has daily wages. They are called at the last moment.
    5. Vladimir Demyanov
      Vladimir Demyanov 27 September 2020 11: 43
      0
      According to Azerbaijan, 12 Osa complexes were destroyed and 1 of its helicopter was lost.
  • the finish
    the finish 27 September 2020 09: 20
    +7
    This is why a general mobilization has been going on in Azerbaijan for a week!
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 27 September 2020 10: 10
      -6
      Not universal. The first category was called up to 35 years old, and even then not all, but specialists in technology, in artillery.
      1. the finish
        the finish 27 September 2020 10: 19
        11
        Well, it means they started something, but now they blame the opposite side.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 27 September 2020 10: 24
          -8
          For 2 weeks already, in all of Aliyev's introductions, it was said that Armenia was preparing a major provocation, adding to their words that if they dared, they would incur large losses. When calling, they insured themselves.
        2. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 27 September 2020 10: 27
          -8
          Ilham Aliyev is preparing an appeal to the nation ... soon. All further actions will depend on this.
          1. Aleksandr1971
            Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 47
            +2
            Aliyev will surely say that the people of Azerbaijan are tired of the Armenian provocations. And that Azerbaijan needs to end the occupation of Karabakh once and for all with a single strong blow. In other words, a big war will probably be declared.
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      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 27 September 2020 09: 40
        +5
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        war forces people to seek more stable lands. Mosva for example.

        Or for example Donetsk fellow with its markets yes

        in 2014, in the midst of instability and the threat of traffic safety in the city, the majority of Caucasian people flooded the markets of the city - like a dog licking its tongue ...

        Now, they are again in the majority returned, and in the markets they will not be crowded again ...


        Conclusion - Donbass, a hotbed of stability yes
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 27 September 2020 09: 43
          0
          Quote: Insurgent
          Conclusion - Donbass, a hotbed of stability

          relative to other places. why not?
          they go where you can make money. why not in Donbass? stability of earnings so to speak.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 27 September 2020 09: 54
            +5
            Quote: Maki Avellievich
            relative to other places. why not?

            I do not dispute this in any way No.
            And he wrote about stability in the DPR without any sarcasm.
            Yes, we are surviving hard, but with the future in mind. And the Caucasians who returned to the markets, as a sign, are akin to a litmus test ...


            And one more remark ... Donetsk, Donbass in general, unlike Moscow, or other regions, is a very specific territory.
            Our national diasporas, willingly or not, by virtue of the mentality of the region, do not stray into national clans like you do, but become part of a multinational region ...

            This is how we are, "special region" ... Melting pot of human destinies .
    2. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 27 September 2020 09: 45
      +6
      Quote: prior
      Where they do not want to negotiate, they die there.
      But. The more Armenians and Azerbaijanis die in Karabakh, the fewer there will be in Russia and Moscow.
      Cynical, but true.

      Are they getting in the way of living hard? I am from Volgograd, there are many of both here and there, there are acquaintances both there and there. And I have not heard something about the fact that they would have implanted something from their customs to someone. They live normally and live normally next to them. And the fact that for the most part they live well, we ourselves need to drink less, work harder and help each other more strongly, otherwise we sometimes don't even communicate with our cousins.
      1. the finish
        the finish 27 September 2020 09: 51
        +1
        I confirm, from Volgograd.
      2. prior
        prior 27 September 2020 10: 09
        +4
        In fact, I live in the suburbs near the market, but I feel like in Azerbaijan.
        In the market, they are, in the protection of the market - they, all the janitors from there, the builders and road workers are the same tanned faces, near the entrance, as in the village ... In Moscow trains they walk in black camouflage with batons ... and these are from there. ...
        I am for the friendship of peoples, but not to the same extent!
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 27 September 2020 11: 11
          +4
          In Moscow commuter trains they wear black camouflage uniforms with truncheons .... and these are from there.

          You distort information. Do not walk with clubs. They wear yellow capes They clean the electric trains ...
          Wipers - yes. Markets yes - like everywhere else.
    3. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 27 September 2020 09: 49
      -1
      Where they do not want to negotiate, they die there.
      But. The more Armenians and Azerbaijanis die in Karabakh, the fewer there will be in Russia and Moscow.
      Cynical, but true.



      The more expensive it will be for you to evaporate semi-fresh fruits and vegetables in Magnets and other Pyaterochka.
      Cynical, but true.
  • SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 27 September 2020 09: 25
    -12 qualifying.
    Azerbaijan will squeeze out Karabakh and everything will calm down, I do not think that the Armenians will declare "sacred".
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 27 September 2020 09: 45
      +2
      Quote: Serge Boss
      Azerbaijan will squeeze out Karabakh and everything will calm down, I do not think that the Armenians will declare "sacred".

      If it were so simple .. IMHO. Turkish ears stick out there from all angles. Turkey has certain plans for Russia as well.
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 27 September 2020 09: 59
        +3
        From the title of the video - "British scientists tell." Look at the map. The North Caucasus are Russian regions. Not confused with Transcaucasia?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 27 September 2020 10: 31
          +7
          Quote: Okolotochny
          Not confused with Transcaucasia?

          Is the Transcaucasia no longer in the zone of Russian interests?
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 28 September 2020 05: 33
            +1
            Do you propose to "kill" Turkey so that it has no interests in the Transcaucasus? To kill China against its interests in Central Asia? Politics is the art of the possible, what is possible, "within our powers" at the moment, is done. Azerbaijan has always gravitated towards Turkey, with this neither you nor I, no one else can do anything. Turks bought a lot of hotel business in Georgia. And essno, for their money they have influence there. Are you offering to outbid Georgians? Or do you propose to go back to the 19th century and start a "showdown"? There are too many statements of facts. Just what few people suggest to do.
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 07: 40
              -1
              "Just what few people suggest to do." Make a real friendship (with the principle I will earn, you earn, the Turks say "the principle of Kazan-Kazan) with these countries. Success will come, all parties will work, and the tension that has been largely created out of the blue will disappear.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 28 September 2020 07: 49
                0
                Everything is possible. But as long as there are contradictions over Syria, there will be no "open and big" friendship in Libya. And so yes, if Turkey would have withdrawn from NATO, it’s generally beautiful.
                1. Oquzyurd
                  Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 07: 58
                  -1
                  NATO does not interfere. And in Syria and Libya, the unnecessary and unprofitable ambition of the parties interferes. This is the opposite of the principle of "Kazan-Kazan" (Earn-Earn)
        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard 27 September 2020 11: 08
          +2
          Quote: Okolotochny
          From the title of the video - "British scientists tell." Look at the map. The North Caucasus are Russian regions. Not confused with Transcaucasia?

          Before commenting on the video that I posted here in this way, it is advisable to watch this video from beginning to end, and if even then you do not understand what I wanted to say, then I sympathize with you request
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 28 September 2020 05: 25
            +1
            Don't sympathize with me. I do not live in Germany, but in the North Caucasus. And for a resident of Germany I will reveal a secret - the influence of Turkey here is zero point tenths. For Transcaucasia I will not say anything, you have to live there in order to have an idea. And if you are the type of posting "facts", then make sure that the title of the video matches its content.
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    2. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 49
      +1
      If Azerbaijan squeezes out Karabakh, then Armenia will have no need for such an ally as Russia. Then Russian troops from Armenia will be driven out. Armenia will join NATO. Turkey will end the blockade of the Armenian-Turkish border.

      Does Russia need this? No, it doesn `t need.
      1. Grits
        Grits 28 September 2020 02: 37
        0
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        Armenia will join NATO.

        In this situation, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia will also join NATO.
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 28 September 2020 08: 13
          0
          The logic of events leads to this.
          NATO now has bases in Western Europe against us and is building new bases in Eastern Europe. And then NATO bases will appear against us in the Transcaucasus.
          Measures must be taken against this.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 27 September 2020 09: 26
    +2
    Wherever you can look at the biased sources of information on this shelling, otherwise they will write such losses to each other. You need a sober look from any side, but for now there is no faith in anyone.
    The story about the downed helicopters and UAVs is usually confirmed by photographs, as well as the damage to civilian infrastructure. We do not see this yet.
    1. FenH
      FenH 27 September 2020 09: 32
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Wherever you can look at the biased sources of information on this shelling, otherwise they will write such losses to each other. You need a sober look from any side, but for now there is no faith in anyone.
      The story about the downed helicopters and UAVs is usually confirmed by photographs, as well as the damage to civilian infrastructure. We do not see this yet.

      Azerbaijanis confirmed one helicopter
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    3. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 27 September 2020 10: 18
      +1
      https://www.mk.ru/politics/2020/09/27/nagornyy-karabakh-armeniya-i-azerbaydzhan-vedut-ozhestochennye-boi.html

      There is nothing official yet.
    4. List
      List 27 September 2020 11: 08
      +2
      @new_militarycolumnist is a great telegram channel. There are many photos and videos.
  • mag nit
    mag nit 27 September 2020 09: 32
    0
    Do not disturb the rooks. Let them frolic.
  • avia12005
    avia12005 27 September 2020 09: 32
    +7
    If Russia continues to "express concern", such conflicts on its borders will only multiply.
    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 27 September 2020 09: 53
      0
      And so it is.
    2. the finish
      the finish 27 September 2020 09: 56
      +3
      2 days ago, the US embassies in Azerbaijan and Armenia simultaneously warned their citizens not to travel to the border area and Karabakh itself. Probably their intelligence already had data and imminent military actions. But what about the intelligence of the Russian Federation?
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 27 September 2020 10: 08
        +4
        Namely, the Americans need a conflict at Russia's southern borders.
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 27 September 2020 11: 13
          +1
          Namely, the Americans need a conflict at Russia's southern borders.

          Yes I need it. And let us go to this conflict.
      2. Sefevi2020
        Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 10: 28
        -8
        Quote: finish
        And what about Russian intelligence?

        The green light was given from there.
    3. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 50
      +1
      Russia needs to threaten both sides of the conflict with force.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 September 2020 16: 28
        -1
        These are already their problems for 30 years, as they have this skirmish - from what overflow Russia should get into this, the flogging should put an end to all this.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 27 September 2020 09: 32
    +1
    C 80
    Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
    I propose to unite Azerbaijan, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh into one state.

    They have been fighting since the 80s. It seems like one thing was. It is difficult with Caucasian peoples, for us they are the same, but they are at knives with each other. Although I can still distinguish Armenians, there are no others
    1. Sefevi2020
      Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 10: 29
      -2
      Quote: imobile2008
      They have been fighting since the 80s.

      Actually, even earlier. Much earlier.
      1. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 52
        +1
        They have really been at war since the 80s. But only since the 1080s. After that, in 1071, both on the territory of Armenia, the Turks defeated the Greeks at Manzikert.
    2. Vladimir Demyanov
      Vladimir Demyanov 27 September 2020 11: 54
      0
      Can you distinguish the Yezidis from others?
  • And why do you need
    And why do you need 27 September 2020 09: 46
    +7
    The Armenian Armed Forces repulsed the morning offensive of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan. Enemy attacks in several directions were repulsed, - said the press secretary of the Armenian Defense Ministry Shushan Stepanyan.

    “The enemy suffered losses in men and equipment, in particular, he lost 3 tanks. The fighting continues, ”the message says.
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 27 September 2020 10: 16
      -12 qualifying.
      The information disseminated by the Armenian side about allegedly 3 damaged tanks, 2 helicopters and 3 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) of the Azerbaijani army is a lie and disinformation, the press service of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry told Azeri Defense Minister.

      “We inform you that our units have full advantage over the enemy at the front,” the message says.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 27 September 2020 11: 45
        -2
        at the top of the video posted about the destruction of tanks
      2. Stavros
        Stavros 27 September 2020 11: 53
        +6
        Well, for you, it's all misinformation. It reminds me of the death of your general and other officers of your army a couple of months ago, when the general was already buried, and your fellow countrymen swore that this was not true.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 27 September 2020 10: 07
    +6
    Russia has not yet expressed its official position ...! No sooner had one member of the CSTO recover, as a new attack, in the southern direction. And Pashinyan "voices" to the OSCE, knows that the CSTO treaty and Nagorno-Karabakh are not in the same "team". A complex model of future events and political decision-making by Armenia.
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  • codetalker
    codetalker 27 September 2020 10: 27
    +4
    What audacity. Parallel to our teachings.
  • Seminol
    Seminol 27 September 2020 10: 30
    13
    Azerbaijan's attempts to present everything as a counter-offensive operation are ridiculous. Operations of this kind are not developed in an hour. So another lie of the Azerbaijani side is obvious. And for those who have doubts about the downed Azerbaijani tanks, I advise you to watch the following material: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mJffVrtPLk&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0oCagTk9_IDj2d3QH1zNxtUFjKpjkftMWaju2CbOk8d
    1. Sefevi2020
      Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 10: 36
      -14 qualifying.
      Quote: Seminol
      Azerbaijan's attempts to present everything as a counter-offensive operation are ridiculous.

      Karabakh is Azerbaijan and what Azerbaijan is doing within this internationally recognized territory is exclusively the business of Azerbaijan, whether it's funny or not, the fact remains.
      1. Seminol
        Seminol 27 September 2020 10: 45
        10
        Karabakh was never Azerbaijan and never will be. Karabakh was inhabited by Armenians for millennia before Azerbaijan first appeared in the world as a state on the map of the Oghuz in the Caucasus. The sooner you understand this and measure yourself with it, the better for you and for everyone else.
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 27 September 2020 11: 41
        -1
        You are now writing about your exclusivity. God forbid Pashinyan will give the go-ahead for the use of Iskander. You are sure that Iskander's aiming point is not in the yard of your house. hi
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 13: 28
          +2
          Iskander from Armenia can destroy Aliyev's residence, oil rigs in the Caspian Sea, the building of the Ministry of Defense, the parliament of Azerbaijan. It is possible to destroy the Mingechaur hydroelectric power station.

          But the Azerbaijanis can blow up the Armenian nuclear power plant (range 300 km) with their "Polonez" missile launcher. And the Polonaises will also get to the Pashinyan's residence.
      3. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 12: 54
        +1
        You never know who has any historical claims. It is necessary to fix and legitimize the existing situation. And not only in Transcaucasia, but all over the world. So that there are no conflicts for pseudo-historical justice.
      4. Grits
        Grits 28 September 2020 02: 48
        -1
        Quote: Sefevi2020
        Karabakh is Azerbaijan and what Azerbaijan is doing within this internationally recognized territory is exclusively the business of Azerbaijan, whether it's funny or not, the fact remains.

        The fact is that there are no Azerbaijanis in Nagorno-Karabakh for a long time. And it has been under the control of Armenia for 3 decades. Already the second generation of people in this unrecognized republic is growing and is considered their homeland.
    2. the finish
      the finish 27 September 2020 11: 00
      +2
      Nice work!
  • maktub
    maktub 27 September 2020 10: 49
    +2
    If I am not mistaken, then after the first war with Armenia, Azerbaijan also lost part of its territory, not only NKAO.
    Aliyev decided to return the territories?
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 13: 30
      +4
      Now the forces of Azerbaijan are many times greater than those of Armenia. So Aliyev decided that now is the time! At the same time, Aliyev decided to write himself in the history of Azerbaijan as a unifier of lands.
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 27 September 2020 10: 52
    +6
    Not the first time ...
    It is necessary to play off the pairs of nationalists on both sides somewhere.
    After 3-4 days, the shooting will subside. In a week they will disperse through the trenches to the original ones.
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 27 September 2020 11: 16
      +1
      Not the first time ...
      It is necessary to play off the pairs of nationalists on both sides somewhere.
      After 3-4 days, the shooting will subside. In a week they will disperse through the trenches to the original ones.


      They will simply be told "Tsyts"
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 27 September 2020 11: 05
    +6
    This is a good reason for both diasporas in Russia to collect money and go to the showdown.
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 27 September 2020 13: 34
      +6
      Quote: 7,62x54
      collect the belongings and go to the showdown
      Diaspora? In the market they will bombard each other with melons or block the delivery of cargo, and show who is the boss in this market.
      Several thousand volunteers gathered in Yerevan, 150 people in Baku! And everyone knows that it is the attacking side that bears great losses, besides, the Armenians have their air defense systems "burning" (which is what the aggressive strike is aimed at), and the Azerbaijanis have tanks and helicopters. This is the whole answer - who is defending and who is defending.
      1. Grits
        Grits 28 September 2020 02: 52
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir61
        the Armenians have their air defense systems on fire (which is what the aggressive strike is aimed at), while the Azerbaijanis have tanks and helicopters. This is the whole answer - who is defending and who is defending.

        Tooting.
      2. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 28 September 2020 07: 49
        -4
        "This is the whole answer - who is defending and who is defending." Apparently those 5 people who also appreciated with such speeches of the philosopher yes
        "Several thousand volunteers gathered in Yerevan, 150 people in Baku!" )))) 55 people have volunteered in Baku, and this is old information already ...
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 27 September 2020 11: 08
    +2
    Everything is very, very serious there. (According to RBC) Stop. Condolences to the Armenian families who have lost their relatives and friends this morning. The shelling from Azerbaijan is being conducted at civilian structures.
    1. the finish
      the finish 27 September 2020 11: 33
      +4
      The journalist of the Turkish TV channel TRT Haber, a few minutes after the start of the shelling on the border of Azerbaijan and Armenia, went live from the "front line" on the Azerbaijani side of the contact line.
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  • Spike Javelin Touvich
    Spike Javelin Touvich 27 September 2020 11: 10
    +4
    To all users of Azerbaijan[/B]

    In order to avoid leakage of information of a military nature, as well as to avoid any provocations.
    Avoid discussions about the war zone on Russian-language resources, as well as some Arab and Persian-language resources.
    [b] Do not confirm or deny
    information on clashes in the zone of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 27 September 2020 11: 25
      +4
      Cool recommendation in the age of high technologies, when from space they can see where an individual is going and for what needs. laughing But in general, the recommendation takes place.
      1. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 27 September 2020 13: 32
        +3
        Yeah. I also laughed at the post of Mr.Towich laughing
    2. armenk
      armenk 27 September 2020 11: 33
      +5
      social networks were slashed in Azerbaijan. they fear the publication of incriminating evidence and panic among the population.
      1. Stavros
        Stavros 27 September 2020 12: 47
        +3
        Nothing, now Lek will come up and lay out the whole truth, because if you listen to him, their MOs come to him with a report)
        1. armenk
          armenk 27 September 2020 13: 10
          0
          will not come, the situation is serious - he is probably with the Supreme Fuehrer with consultations.
          1. Stavros
            Stavros 27 September 2020 13: 19
            +3
            The main thing is that this time, do not stop, press the Turks until the very end.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 27 September 2020 11: 14
    +7
    Fighting is provoked by Azerbaijan, which is clearly not beneficial for Armenia.

    Azerbaijan is pumping up its army with weapons and conducting reconnaissance in force.

    It won't end well.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 27 September 2020 11: 34
      0
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Fighting is provoked by Azerbaijan, which is clearly not beneficial for Armenia.

      IMHO. First of all, it is beneficial for Turkey and the United States. The rest are in line after them. repeat
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 27 September 2020 11: 18
    +4
    T72 Azerbaijanis drove over mines ...
  • armenk
    armenk 27 September 2020 11: 24
    +4
    withstood the main blow. heavy equipment is being pulled to the borders. martial law declared in Artsakh. I think this is a claim for the loss of a few more wounds.

    1. Pytnik
      Pytnik 27 September 2020 11: 56
      +2
      And this is already serious Martial law and general mobilization have been declared in Armenia
      11:41 27.09.2020 (updated: 11:46 27.09.2020) RIA Novosti
    2. armenk
      armenk 27 September 2020 12: 03
      +2
      addition
      1. the finish
        the finish 27 September 2020 12: 18
        +3
        Another video was added to this as tank columns are annihilated on the march.
    3. armenk
      armenk 27 September 2020 12: 21
      +2
      addition

      Tank units of the Azerbaijani armed forces are suffering huge losses. Our anti-tank and forward units are doing excellent work. The guys are great. You are heroes !!!

      Submitted by Alen ghulyan Sunday, September 27, 2020
    4. armenk
      armenk 27 September 2020 13: 54
      0
      destroyed: 4 helicopters, 10 tanks, 15 submarines / Artsakh Defense Army
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 September 2020 16: 32
        0
        Confirmed only one helicopter 10 tanks and infantry fighting vehicles destroyed three vehicles destroyed.
    5. armenk
      armenk 27 September 2020 18: 53
      +2
      addition
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 27 September 2020 11: 26
    +1
    That's why I love Armenians:
    1. Every Armenian has an older brother.
    2. The Armenian himself does not decide anything, the elder brother decides.
    And so friendly with those and those. Normal people. Why grappled again?
  • Lelek
    Lelek 27 September 2020 11: 30
    +4
    Something tells me that there was a go-ahead for Aliyev from our sworn "friend" Erdogan.
  • the finish
    the finish 27 September 2020 11: 36
    +3
    Tonight, on the eve of aggravation on the line of contact, the Turkish reconnaissance and strike drone Bayraktar TB2 was actively working on the border with Armenia in the Yerevan direction.
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  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 27 September 2020 11: 38
    +3
    Azerbaijan is doing badly with the economy, after the fall in oil and gas prices, so under the instigation of the Turks, they decided to play soldiers.

    Russians go, slap everyone on the neck and go home ... pancake warriors, peas ...
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      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 27 September 2020 12: 10
        +3
        only Armenia will return the occupied Azerbaijani lands ...


        Yes, Azerbaijan is Turkish sixes. The Russians will not let the Turks into their vegetable garden (region of influence). And the lands are those whose flag is blowing on them and that's it. To everyone, someone squeezed something and no one rocks the boat especially, if not great strength. And so you will feel the boot on your face and go home with all the great Turkish dreams.
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          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 27 September 2020 13: 19
            0
            That is, the Turks have as many rights in this region as the Russians, if not more ..


            This is what confirms my conviction that the Azerbaijanis are Turkish sixes and act on the signal from Ankara.

            if tomorrow the Turks will bend you and the Bulgarians will squeeze your lands


            Half of the Hungarians live outside of today's Hungary. A third of the country has been wrested from us in recent wars. And nothing, we live in the 21st century and have agreements of friendship with all our neighbors.

            As for the Turks, they are only with us and have not quarreled among all their neighbors. Only they need this to get the united Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia ... laughing
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  • maktub
    maktub 27 September 2020 11: 47
    +1
    Something serious is twisting: Armenia has introduced the RJ and general mobilization
    They seem to be bombing Stepanakert
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  • the finish
    the finish 27 September 2020 12: 24
    +2
    The Armenian Defense Ministry announced about the artillery shelling by the enemy of the city of Vardenis, bordering Azerbaijan.
    At the moment, these are the first strikes directly on the territory of the country outside of Nagorno-Karabakh.
  • arhPavel
    arhPavel 27 September 2020 12: 39
    -2
    As usual, the new progressive democratic forces, which came to power as a result of organized protests, get involved in the war.
    Some kind of systematic destructive work to reduce foreign markets.
    Of course, I may be a victim of propaganda, but somehow I cannot get rid of this idea.
  • Maz
    Maz 27 September 2020 12: 58
    +3
    Quote: Doccor18
    At the same time, it is clear that armed escalation is not beneficial to any of the parties - neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia.

    It would not be profitable, they would not shoot at each other ... This means that there are interested forces that do not want peaceful coexistence.


    HERE is this very eloquent video. Now he is one of the most popular in the Turkish-Azerbaijani segment of Twitter. He answers all questions about Turkey and to whom he answers favorably.
  • lubesky
    lubesky 27 September 2020 13: 00
    +3
    Judging by the video, the Armenians burned the equipment well. And the very form of the video design smells like Hollywood and planning
    1. Isim soyad
      Isim soyad 27 September 2020 13: 03
      -2
      http://interfax.az/view/814425
  • the finish
    the finish 27 September 2020 13: 09
    +2
    The reconnaissance drone of the Turkish Air Force is currently monitoring the activity of the Armenian Armed Forces in the interests of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces.
  • yfast
    yfast 27 September 2020 13: 27
    -2
    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    If Azerbaijan squeezes out Karabakh, then Armenia will have no need for such an ally as Russia. Then the Russian troops from Armenia will be driven out. Armenia will join NATO.

    Why does Russia need such an ally?
  • tekinoral
    tekinoral 27 September 2020 14: 54
    -1
    Quote: ANIMAL
    An alarming situation. Armenia is a member of the CSTO, and Azerbaijan is a reliable trade partner! It is necessary to quickly connect diplomats and seat the "hot" guys at the negotiating table.

    Or maybe not to interfere with the turnover!
  • Stavros
    Stavros 27 September 2020 17: 42
    +2
    Quote: bobwings
    Azerbaijan is a pro-Western developed country, whose army is armed with modern weapons allowing to put a missile into the embrasure of a bunker from 25 km. They do not need help from the barmaley and broads, the connection with which will stain the face of the country for a long time

    If, in the end, it becomes known that the barmaley and the broads are fighting on your side, can we consider you in this case a starbreaker?
    1. bobwings
      bobwings 28 September 2020 08: 27
      +2
      I am not from Azerbaijan, but sympathetic from Israel.
      If the participation of the Syrian militants suddenly becomes clear, I personally will be very upset ...
      From Erdogan's side, this will be a cruel setup
  • Isim soyad
    Isim soyad 27 September 2020 19: 23
    -5
    Armenian separatists and occupants in Aghdar wondered !!! Agdera was taken without a fight. Damn, Ormyan commandos in the spirit of stinkers, Schwazneggers.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 September 2020 19: 36
      +2
      You have there already dozens of losses of equipment and machines - how could you throw equipment into battle without suppressing artillery with the help of kamikaze drones, you have hundreds of them in service.
      1. Isim soyad
        Isim soyad 27 September 2020 20: 31
        -3
        do not trust these fjeks, even if there are losses, but not in such quantity and not on such a scale. after the first 3-4 villages were taken, the militia did not give strong or worthy resistance, they fled for a 20-30 minute offensive, surrendering their positions and weapons. so, all these cartoons, as well as about the downed helicopter that they show, but in fact, these are pictures from the AN-2 disaster from 2013. one of these days everything will be cleared up.
      2. Isim soyad
        Isim soyad 27 September 2020 20: 40
        0
        the first few hours the artillery and aviation did their job, and then the infantry, and then with the support of precise missile strikes. so, all these cartoons, if not all, but most will find their true time and place of coming.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 27 September 2020 22: 05
          +3
          About the technique is not fake - there is even a video of a broken convoy of trucks, and there are two damaged armored personnel carriers 82
  • rosomaha
    rosomaha 27 September 2020 21: 45
    0
    damn it, divide this Karabakh in half and that's it
  • Kazimir Prutikov
    Kazimir Prutikov 27 September 2020 22: 04
    +2
    Turkey is becoming an active player in the conflict zone. Baku enjoys all-round political and military support of Turkey and seeks to finally resolve the Karabakh issue. Peacekeeping steps on the part of Russia will not yield any real results. Everyone is already tired of the talking shop. This is the beginning of a real war between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
  • Garris199
    Garris199 27 September 2020 23: 28
    -2
    Those who sympathize with Azerbaijan, ask how they treated the Russians during the collapse of the USSR
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 28 September 2020 02: 13
    0
    Why are you all suddenly surprised? A common thing - beaked rooks divide the next area in the bazaar! But the idiots don't understand that you won't take a single dollar with you to the next world! And judging by the batch - there is an abundance of those who wish for the next world behind both counters, on a "good" journey .........
  • Artura
    Artura 28 September 2020 09: 45
    +1
    Azerbaijani General Major Mais Barkhudarov, who received the rank of general after the April 2016 clashes, said in an interview that they could have reached Yerevan in April. So his dream came true in the night battle on September 27-28, he was captured by the Armenian military !!!!!!!! Now let's see how this bird will sing)))))))))))
  • Vladimir Demyanov
    Vladimir Demyanov 28 September 2020 10: 50
    0
    Quote: Do not care
    I propose to unite Azerbaijan, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh into one state.


    Nagorno Armenbayjan

    In the USSR, there was such a joke of the United States - the united states of Armenia and Azerbaijan. (Germany is the federal republic of Georgia).
  • Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 29 September 2020 01: 54
    0
    Quote: Alex777
    Pashinyan has no results. The ratings are falling.
    Political reliance on soros. So they are rocking the CSTO.
    Like if we are not protected, then we need to leave the CSTO.
    There are still questions - who benefits from it?

    if the CSTO does not fit in and he loses the war, then he will go into the cold for defeat