At the exercises of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ATGM Javelin, during the demonstration to Zelensky, misfired

The Javelin anti-tank missile system (ATGM), received by the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the United States, did not work on Wednesday during the United Efforts 2020 strategic exercises, while Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was watching them. This is reported by the Ukrainian media.

Javelin didn't fire, the rocket didn't fly. Perhaps this is an operator error, maybe something else, you need to figure it out

- said the commander of the operational command "Sever" Valery Zaluzhny, commenting on the misfire weapons.

Earlier, the office of the President of Ukraine announced Zelensky's visit to the Nikolaev region, where the "United Efforts-2020" exercises are being held in response to the Russian command and control system "Kavkaz-2020". At the same time, it was emphasized that Zelensky would be shown the work of the American Javelin complex.

In June of this year, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine announced the receipt from the United States of a batch of FGM-148E missiles, which are considered the penultimate modification of this weapon. At the same time, it was asserted that "new missiles" were delivered. The latter is considered the FGM-148F, which first entered the United States Armed Forces only in May this year. For obvious reasons, Washington did not send the latest ATGM modifications for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

"New" rockets arrived in Ukraine on June 16. This was the first shipment of military cargo in the framework of the US government's pilot project "International Military Sales". A total of $ 27 million worth of Javelin missiles and additional equipment was delivered.

Recall that the Armed Forces of Ukraine received the first batch of Javelin ATGMs and missiles for them from the United States in 2018. In total, the Ukrainian military received 37 launchers and 210 missiles. The US Congress approved the second delivery of missiles of the complex last year, the Ukrainian media announced the delivery of missiles for $ 40 million.

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[The leader of the Redskins]

That is why so?
As at a demonstration performance, so a misfire, but as a simple training battle between two fighters, even something that should not work? !!

[dvina71]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

That is why so?

Because you have to think with your head and have critical thinking .. You are confusing a modern fighter with a Yak-3 .. The pilot of a modern fighter knows perfectly well how much and what he has in his bc ..

[Temples]

Zelenskiy is so cool that even a rocket was shot out of its nest.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Temples

Zelenskiy is so cool that even a rocket was shot out of its nest.

Well, he's a king ...

[loki565]

And if she flies out, everything around will be shot)))

[newcomer]

BC is always in the cannon, unlike missiles, they are removed. But the techies had to block the supply of the BC to the gun. The pilots, before the photo shot, had to shoot in a safe direction, make sure that the BC is blocked.

[dvina71]

Quote: newbie

K is always in the cannon, unlike missiles, they are removed

Ie you want to say that in battle .. the pilot of the drying should count the number of shots from the cannon ??

[newcomer]

What are you talking about now? I repeat once again: the attacking pilot had to make sure that the BC feed was blocked by a test shot to the safe side. And here are the shots? The presence of ammo in the gun is monitored by techies.

[dvina71]

Quote: newbie

And here are the shots? Z

Ie you want to say that the presence and number of shots is not reflected in the pilot's indicator? If yes ... then you need to count ..

[newcomer]

I'm talking about Cyril, you are talking about Myfody .. Yes, there is an indicator. The ammo gun is never removed. During training firing in close combat, the BC is blocked before departure, that is, there is no supply of a projectile to the gun. The indicator only shows the presence of ammunition, when a projectile is jammed or the ammo is blocked, the indicator does not work. And which side is the indicator here, why did you bump into it?
well, try to count at a rate of 6000 shots / min.

[newcomer]

[quote] [/ quote] got excited, of course 1500 rounds per minute, okay, confused with GSh23.

[svp67]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

That is why so?

The "general effect" has not yet been canceled ... Although it may have played a bad role. Perhaps they trained for a long time and put the on-board battery, but they either could not replace it, or did not guess.
In any case, spending $ 47 million from the Ukrainian budget on the purchase of these complexes, previously withdrawn from the US Armed Forces, has already begun to raise even more questions.

[Holgerton]

At a recent meeting, Trump has already stated that Ukraine did not pay for these complexes (FGM-148 Javelin) and he "does not know if he will pay at all," in fact, it turns out that these are gratuitous deliveries at the whim of the State Department and the Pentagon, but for nothing, as they say, and the vinegar is sweet.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Why ... So, I think there is a minus and I understand that someone canceled the "general's effect" by their own will from the sofa.
I understand children, they want the sun to always shine .. Children, all the same ...

[Clear]

Commander Zaluzhny: Javelin didn't fire, missile didn't fly.

Do you know how many machine guns we have?
Seven! No, six ...
One bites, the other jumps up like crazy, and the third bastard shoots his own.
And the seventh I secretly from the chieftain ataman traded for these pants.
Wedding in Malinovka. Popandopulo

Nothing changes in Ukraine

[PSih2097]

Quote: Clear

Nothing changes in Ukraine winked

at the moment - Popandopulo would rise (so what, would rise to the level of the president (for the money ...)) from the word - absolutely ...

[Sly]

Well, not surprising - the rocket, which inside should have been sold long ago

[seacap]

You even have no idea what you are talking about, even if you saw the cockpit of a fighter and the weapon control system of a modern fighter in the picture? Before uttering supposedly clever thoughts, you should at least a little grasp the essence of the issue, as with the same Javelin, can you point by point and consistently say how many conditions must be met and how many operations must be performed for the missile launch command to pass?

[kventinasd]

The Javelin anti-tank missile system (ATGM) received by the US Armed Forces did not fire on Wednesday.
Perhaps this is an operator error, maybe something else, you need to figure it out

And maybe someone bought grenades of the wrong system, and maybe someone was sold illiquid assets.
Or maybe just monkeys shouldn't be given dangerous toys.

[a.hamster55]

During exercises, different things happen and pop up. But the president came across such an operator, and when he saw him, he couldn't laugh out of it.

[Mountain shooter]

The failure of the "wunderwaffe" will surely raise the morale of the troops. They only counted on "Darts" to stop the tank hordes of Buryat armored cavalrymen ...

[iouris]

This could be called the "presidential effect", but which one is the president?

[Uncle lee]

Judging by the photo, the one without a mask breathed on the Javelin and that's it - the Javelin died!

[Mityasha]

At least minus, but our ATGMs are better than these javelins: one shot - one tank. They don't even miss out on exercises. Well the crew is alive ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Mityasha

At least minus, but our ATGMs are better than these javelins: one shot - one tank. They don't even miss out on exercises. Well the crew is alive ...

PTURA - yes, they are good. But with the TOURs, judging by the Army-2020, it really sucks.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Alexey RA

But with the TOURs, judging by the Army-2020, it really sucks.

Come on .... They're great.
Nobody knows how to just apply.
Because the savings ...

[newcomer]

I don’t understand at all: why does a goat need a button accordion?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: newbie

I don’t understand at all: why does a goat need a button accordion?

Goat the button accordion, and the Papuans "Jewelin", let them indulge, maybe they will shoot each other.

[dzvero]

What is screwed up at the "dart", which is not noticeable for the time being and costs money? Did they take out all the filling of the rocket and turn it over to nonferrous metal?

[Coconut]

why do they have light masks ..? not talented

[sergo1914]

Anwar Sadat could tell Zelenskiy about what “lucky” is.

[Cowbra]

Technique in the hands of a savage - a pile of scrap metal (TM)
That is why they are affectionately called Banderlog

[Incvizitor]

Only ak in the hands of a monkey shoots, but no rust.

[Rzzz]

At the same time, it was emphasized that Zelensky will be shown the work of the American Javelin complex

Well, that's demonstrated. Does not work.

[rocket757]

Each Ukrainian president has his own. For one, the guards faint, for some reason ... for another, the jabs do not shoot, for some reason too.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

one of the guards fainted, for some reason ... at the other the jabs do not shoot, also for some reason.

Well at least it didn’t work, but if only he shot back: that would be fun, eh Sumeria!

[Mimoxod]

It looks like the Yankees threw off Nikondishn Svidomo, the natives will do it .

[Rzzz]

So they were given so that the natives marched in parades. And those flooded to shoot from them.

[O. Bender]

It's such a delay, you don't know from which hole and where it will fly.

[Incvizitor]

Especially among such

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Incvizitor

Especially among such

Okay, with Jewelin and ducks,

[Incvizitor]

Though the hammer did not pull like a mortar.

[Prisoner]

It’s a pity that he didn’t rush.

[Terenin]

Quote: Captive

It’s a pity that he didn’t rush.

You never can tell

[venik]

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Lord! Even titles teachings - vassals trying to copy from the OWNERS !!!
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Well who is vassalam Will you give the NEWEST technology? Here, according to the principle: "Toby is not good, sho me, you are not good!".....

[Prisoner]

The gentlemen sent their servants overdue.

[Cat]

Javelin didn't fire, the rocket didn't fly. Perhaps this is an operator error, maybe something else, you need to figure it out

He got scared. What if with him like a piano

[The government]

Javelin didn't fire, the rocket didn't fly. Perhaps this is an operator error, maybe something else, you need to figure it out

Something else is obvious, it's not in vain that Zelensky has such sad and doomed eyes ..
During the conflict (1982) between Argentina and Great Britain, for some reason the bombs and missiles did not explode when they tried to attack the Britons (they bought from the USA) ..
Someone got drunk on marriage ..

[voyaka uh]

Someone did not check or set up the fuses during the exercises.
And immediately went to war.

[Avior]

There was no marriage
They were used abnormally - from extremely low altitudes, the fuse spinner did not have time to unscrew, therefore some of the bombs did not explode.

[The government]

Quote: Avior

There was no marriage
They were used abnormally - from extremely low altitudes, the fuse spinner did not have time to unscrew, therefore some of the bombs did not explode.

Well, this is one of the versions, everything was very muddy there ..
And the fact that these Javas did not shoot at the exercises is encouraging .. How many lives will be saved in the Donbas!
In Ukraine, now the exercises are going on, how many NATO members have gathered there .. That is what is alarming!

[Avior]

After the end of hostilities, the Argentine Air Force conducted an investigation to determine the reasons for such a high percentage of bomb failure. The following was found out.

The Argentine Air Force used the Mark 82 bombs developed in the United States in the 1950s. The bomb has a nominal mass of 227 kg, but its actual weight may fluctuate depending on the modification. The body is made of metal, filled with 87 kg of explosives Tritonal (80% trinitrotoluene and 20% powdered aluminum).
The design of the bomb provided for the installation of a fuse fuse on the nose of the bomb. The fuse was a cap with blades, which was bolted to the body. When the bomb fell from a height, the blades were unwound by the oncoming air flow, thereby unscrewing the bolt. After a certain number of revolutions, the bolt was unscrewed and the fuse fell off. The height at which the fuse should fall off, as you might guess, could be set with a screwdriver, adjusting the number of revolutions by which the bolt was screwed into the body.

However, the realities of the spring of 1982 made their own adjustments to the practice of bombing Argentine pilots. SAMs of the Royal Navy - all these Sea Dart, Sea Cat, Sea Wolf and even the ancient Sea Slug - had a significant impact on aviation tactics: their presence forced the Argentine aviation to abandon attacks at high altitudes (where the Argentine Skyhawks and Super Etendars could twist less maneuverable British "Harriers") and carry out only low-altitude attacks. The Argentines chose the tactic of low-altitude approaches, skipping "under the radar" - appearing from beyond the horizon only at the last moment before the strike. The problem was that the fuses of their bombs were not designed to be dropped from a height of 20-30 meters and the fuses simply did not have time to turn enough to be charged.

known problem. bombing at ultra-low altitudes is dangerous for the carrier aircraft, since the bomb reaches the target when the carrier has not yet entered the safe zone.

With regard to the Mk-82 bomb, there is a special version with anti-fall and anti-fall stabilizers,

When bombing at low altitudes, the delivery aircraft can be damaged by the explosive and fragmentation effects of its own ammunition, since the aircraft and the ammunition reach the target almost simultaneously. To solve this problem, the standard Mk 82 general purpose bomb can be equipped with a special high-resistance tail assembly. In this configuration, it is referred to as the Mk 82 Snakeye.

The tail unit has four folded keels, which, when the bomb is fired, straighten into a cruciform shape. The ribs increase the resistance of the bomb, slowing its advance and allowing the delivery plane to fly safely over the target before the bomb detonates.

but the Argentines had standard bomb variants unsuitable for ultra-low altitudes.
the Argentines had a problem - they bought Mark-82 bombs, but they did not have Snake Eye kits for them.

[orionvitt]

As required.

[Pavel57]

The Chinese chip has burned out.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: a.hamster55

During exercises, different things happen and pop up. But the president came across such an operator, and when he saw him, he couldn't laugh out of it.

Charged incorrectly. The shovel scoop should be parallel to the ground, in this case it will fly further due to the use of the scoop's lifting force.

[Avior]

They write that the trigger did not work
Or some kind of blocking was not removed, the fighter was worried, they probably wound up with distractions, in the army, at the sight of the authorities, this is a common thing, I remember, one general somehow tore the handles from a closed UAZ because of a jit
Or with the power supply of the problem - the battery is discharged, with the trigger we trained for sure, prepared for launch in front of the authorities, the problem is known.

[agoran]

Generally not cheap weapons, so I doubt that there was an ordinary soldier there.
Not an ATGM specialist, but in aviation, after arriving from the armament depot, the missiles were checked at the RPPR (missile preliminary preparation point), then they were suspended aboard and checked for mating.
There is an obvious jamb or storage, or not checking before use, perhaps there should be a self-test before starting.

[Avior]

Certainly not an ordinary fighter. But the contract sergeant could have been admitted.
Or, alternatively, overtraining before shooting.
There is not a problem in the rocket, if it is true what they write, but in the trigger.
Probably used for training without launches, as it happens.

[maktub]

Article to raise "hurray-patriotism"
Is there a speck in someone else's eye?

[agoran]

If you are interested in a mote, create a topic, and comment there.
Here's a monkey theme with FGM-148 Javelin.

[maktub]

Recently I saw one monkey with "Arrow" in the video, so at least the trigger worked there, everyone had fun

[TermNachTer]

They waited - they were waiting for these "javelins", like manna from heaven, and here such a setup))) or mattress covers, as usual, sold rotten goods to the suckers?))))

[agoran]

Here hz.
It is highly likely that the descendants of the ancient Sumerians violated the storage conditions, periodic work, etc.

[AML]

Most likely Boska was turned on before.

That's so chykh puff and minus 200 mowers.

[cat Rusich]

Maybe with a "fuse "not removed? - and the Americans" forgot to say "where is the fuse ...

[g1washntwn]

"About the button" from the movie "5th element:

[maktub]

We are discussing crap here, but in Minsk the clashes after the "secret" inauguration

[Vadim237]

Yes, put everyone on them.

[maktub]

That's for sure! Well at least so far everything is more or less bypassed

[zwlad]

Not otherwise than the gunpowder damp. Or instead of rockets, the Yankees slipped dummies.

[NF68]

And here the GDP is personally to blame?

[seacap]

And in the field, at the training ground, in the fresh air, why are these masked clowns (like ours often, by the way). Not an indicator, recently ours, too, to put it mildly, did not quite successfully shoot with guns at the "show" in front of all honest people. technology, there is technology, and the human factor is present throughout the world.

[iouris]

Backward American technology and Ze with a friendly team.