"If Beijing uses ships for amphibious assault, they will go to the bottom": Taiwan experts on the effectiveness of SLAM-ER missiles

An article appeared in the press in Taiwan, which talks about the planned deliveries from the United States to the island of SLAM-ER missiles. This is an updated modification of the high-precision air-launched cruise missile - a derivative of the Harpoon anti-ship missile.
It is known that SLAM-ER is capable of hitting targets both on land and at sea at a distance of up to 230 km.

From the report:

The American SLAM-ER air-launched cruise missiles have the highest accuracy (minimum possible deviation from the target) of all missiles of this class.

The Taiwanese media recalled that the deal with the United States to acquire air-launched cruise missiles is part of the largest set of contracts concluded between Taiwan and the United States in recent years. The amount of these contracts is $ 7 billion.

Taiwanese military experts say SLAM-ER missiles “will be used as a defensive weapon against the militaristic plans of Beijing. " It is noted that with the help of SLAM-ER, the air forces of the island will be able to control the Taiwan Strait and "keep at gunpoint, for example, the PLA naval assault ships":

If Beijing uses its ships for the landing, then with the help of SLAM-ER they will go to the bottom of the Taiwan Strait.

For your information:

The minimum width of the strait is 130 km, the maximum is about 381. The greatest depth is about 1,8 km. The length of the strait is 400 km.

Comments

[Fibrizio]

With such a neighbor, you need to keep a certain parity, otherwise in the morning you can wake up with a wise lump of China's party.

[Freemason Mason]

Quote: Fibrizio

in the morning you can wake up with a wise lump of the party of china

The outlook is so-so, given that the example of Hong Kong is before our eyes. However, in the near future, it is unlikely that China will make attempts to seize by force - and so there are enough problems, in particular - the trade war with the United States and the gradually forming anti-Chinese coalition

[Hunter 2]

Yes, China will not even need landing ships ... they can even swim to this island of "democracy". The ratio of resources - people look, if there is a war - for ten minutes!
China does not just need these troubles, the monkey hopes to get everything for money.

[Freemason Mason]

This ratio of resources and people was both 10 and 20 years ago. But so far, China has not captured anything. And about getting it for money - China tried to get Ukrainian Motor Sich for money, but the United States quickly gave it

[Hunter 2]

China is the only one that has preserved the Ancient statehood. 5 thousand years of history, very difficult - they constantly conquered and plundered, not Wars, they are traders and farmers. Therefore, they will wait in the hope of buying everything.
Look at the Vietnam War ... of course the PLA has changed a lot during this time, but ... the mentality has remained the same. I have been to China 11 times (maybe more), an ear with feet of clay.

[Fibrizio]

And who are the wars today? Developed countries are definitely not. For coffins, any government will be retired.
We? Again, if the neighbors are tricky, yes, but we are not ready for a real war. Even in terms of the scale of military production. And what if high-precision weapons destroy all refineries, hydroelectric power plants and nuclear power plants in a week? We have little umbrella covered, Kaliningrad, Moscow, and strategic objects. And even if we respond in kind, the victory will be Pyrrhic.
Well, the third world countries are called so.

And in what place have they preserved the ancient statehood? After the revolution, then with whom is the party? Ancient statehood, or rather its some kind of heritage, its fragments, just the same in Taiwan.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Haven't you heard of the MOST STRONG ARMY IN EUROPE ?!
Yes, you just fell behind ...

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Fibrizio

Ancient statehood, or rather its some kind of heritage, its fragments, just the same in Taiwan.

Actually no. The Republic of China (Taiwan) was founded by the Kuomintang party. Also revolutionaries, at one time allies of the communists. And to "ancient statehood", if by it we mean a series of imperial dynasties, in fact, China is closer with its chairman for life Xi

[kot423]

Quote: Fibrizio

And who are the wars today? Developed countries are definitely not.

Really chtoli? Have you never heard the concept of "military spirit" (an approximate concept, for the beginning of the 80s and above)? Google "attack of the dead" when "civilized" Germany in the form of the 18th Landwehr Regiment fled from half! 13th and less than a quarter of the 8th company of the Zemlyansk regiment ...
PS And now turn on the brain and answer (if you can): Do you think that there are no such parts left in Russia (example: half-starved, demolished, etc. in the 90s) but retained their combat capability (or YOU will be for me about the military unit 54766) speak? So CLOSE your mouth if you cannot clearly formulate your thoughts on this topic ...

[Fibrizio]

You and your wife say that, or with your children. Better with a wife with children. They will learn a lot. Better to drink hard.
Just for such a conversation and can fill the face. But the Internet will certainly endure.

[Moskovit]

What makes you think that this is a colossus? There is a giant chasm between China 1979 and 2020. Taiwan is alive only because of the states. China is slowly raking up Taiwan economically and will achieve its goal.
Was in Xiamen. I liked it very much. We went out to sea on a yacht. To the very border. We saw Taiwan. Very close...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Hunter 2

China is the only one that has preserved the Ancient statehood. 5 thousand years of history, very difficult - they were constantly conquered and plundered,

All

5 thousand years

robbed or just the last two centuries?
And after the northern neighbor of the PRC helped to form the PRC in its current form and expel the Japanese from its territory, no one from the PRC dared to rob, incl. and think about it ...

they are not wars - so traders and farmers.

Is that why they still have such a territory?

Therefore, they will wait in the hope of buying everything.

Americans also thought so about the Russian Federation, now Crimea is part of the Russian Federation ...

Watch the Vietnam War ... of course the PLA

Better look at the island territories lost by Vietnam in favor of the PRC, as well as the PLA capture of Tibet ...

I've been to China 11 times (maybe more)

Unconscious, they brought you in, or what?

an ear with feet of clay.

We've already heard something similar ...

[postum]

The fact of the matter is that the Taiwanese 6a the example of Hong Kong saw that China's promises are empty words

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Freemason

in the near future, it is unlikely that China will make attempts to seize by force - and so there are enough problems, in particular - the trade war with the United States and the gradually forming anti-Chinese coalition

Do you think the PRC is better to wait until

anti-china coalition

will be finally formed?

[Cowbra]

And nothing else that Nixon recognized Taiwan - Chinese territory?

[Grits]

Quote: Fibrizio

With such a neighbor, you need to keep a certain parity, otherwise in the morning you can wake up with a wise lump of China's party.

So, in general, the Communist Party of China is not very good at being wise. Taiwan could be thoughtful - maybe it is worth surrendering and joining the PRC? Stop living at the behest of wise pin-dos.

[zlinn]

So the Taiwanese, on this very order, live better than in China, who in their right mind would want to surrender? Hong Kong example really scared them and Taiwanese don't want to

[sergo1914]

If the enemies decide to go to war
We'll give them a walk along the bottom ...

[zadorin1974]

And do they have enough missiles? With the number and speed of the ZBD-2000 PLA, even landing boats are not required. As always, a GOOD PONT MUST BE JUSTIFIED)))))

[svp67]

Quote: zadorin1974

Do they have enough missiles?

I think no. Since China is clearly working out the technique without a ship landing, using high-speed boats and high-speed amphibious combat vehicles, then even the anti-ship missiles bought for 7 lards will not be enough to overheat them all, and given the strong development of the PLA's missile forces and air force, Taiwan's aviation has little chance of getting into the air , and by standing up, cause irreparable damage to the landing forces.

[user1212]

Quote: svp67

and given the strong development of the PLA's missile forces and air force, Taiwan's aviation has little chance of taking off

Here, too, did not understand this empty chatter. Who told them that an hour before the landing, their airfields, together with the planes, would not turn into a "lunar landscape"? The next sponsoring of the desired result in the US elections, no more

[andr327]

and what about the PLA in this direction - air defense, aviation. J-20s will swoop down and let Taiwan get its airplanes up and running. And how many planes will this SLAM hang? really on the whole hundred F16?

[Grits]

Quote: andr327

and what about the PLA in this direction - air defense, aviation. J-20s will swoop down and let Taiwan get its airplanes up and running. And how many planes will this SLAM hang? really on the whole hundred F16?

No American rockets will make the weather. The Chinese, too, are not stupid and will not trample on anti-ship missiles head-on on landing ships. Before that, all the airfields where the aircraft with such missiles are based will be preliminarily cleaned.
It's just that the Chinese military's task is a little more complicated - on operational maps, circle Taiwanese airfields with another bold red circle.

[KVU-NSVD]

“If Beijing

If Beijing wants to, it will deliver Formosa with cancer in 48 hours. But wisely does not want this. The apple will ripen by itself and bang down. The Chinese apple has no other fate than the basket of the Chinese gardener. And no rockets, especially those based on the Harpoon (!), Will help here. The most that sooner or later the Taipei elites will be able to do is to bargain for the distribution of feeding troughs and powers for the transition period. Hong Kong (formerly British) as an example. And for the Chinese in parallel - it will happen in a year or in fifty ...

[Rage66]

Scrupulously noticed ...

[Mountain shooter]

How many of those missiles? And the carriers of those missiles? And what about the carriers, "immortal"? Taipei, of course, is wildly scared ... And if China DECIDES that it's time to take Taiwan - no jumps and antics will save it! And the US will suddenly start to fit in?

[Rage66]

Jumping and grimacing - well said ... Taiwan still exists, but this is due to other concerns from China ... Hong Kong also had ...

[zlinn]

Hong Kong could not resist, it is smaller and smaller in number, and even then they did not understand what awaited them and believed in a miracle, and the Taiwanese already know

[Rage66]

There is no difference across China, seven million or
twenty three.
It will still chew and move on ... It's a matter of time

[voyaka uh]

These CDs still need to be launched from planes ...
Given the J-20, China may not succeed.

[Alien From]

The voice of the State Department sounds from Taiwan ..... only the Chinese are not out of hand!

[askort154]

If Beijing uses its ships for the landing, then with the help of SLAM-ER they will go to the bottom of the Taiwan Strait.

What is 130 km. For a "kayak crowd" of 1,5 billion ?! No rockets will save you. Another American divorce of the naive - $ 7 billion

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: askort154

for the "kayaking crowd" of 1,5 billion ?!

Do you think that all 1.5 billion will sail through the strait, or is it only landing ships?

[askort154]

The eye of the crying ....Do you think that all 1.5 billion will sail through the strait, or is it only landing ships?

Do you think that I am seriously thinking this way?
From now on I will attach emoticons - "I was joking !"

[The eye of the crying]

Did you also joke about the "divorce of the naive"?

[serzh.kost]

Taiwan is not China, Crimea is not Russia, Kosovo is not Serbia ... nothing new in the vulture technique ...

[Rage66]

The list goes on ... Texas is not the USA

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Freemason

This ratio of resources and people was both 10 and 20 years ago. But so far, China has not captured anything. And about getting it for money - China tried to get Ukrainian Motor Sich for money, but the United States quickly gave it

For this "Motor Sich" did not give up to them, they are only interested in those. documentation.

[askort154]

Gennady Fomkin] For this "Motor Sich" didn't give up to them, they are only interested in those. documentation.

You cannot assemble an engine from "technical documentation".
The Americans took out not only the "technical documentation" for the "Fau", but also the finished products together with Brown and his charges, and we got only parts of the missiles that had not yet been assembled. It was with the German "Fau" that the breakthrough in rocketry began in the USA and the USSR. Korolev with his "special forces", took out the remnants of the Americans, and collected 11 missiles. The first tests in "Kapustin Yar" were passed - 9 were unsuccessful, the next 2 - successfully. After that, a whole rocket industry was created in the USSR.

[Livonetc]

Tai'an will become part of the PRC without any doubt.
Whether this event happens in 30 or 50 years does not really matter.
It doesn't matter which way it will be done.
For the PRC, of ​​course, a peaceful scenario is preferable.
However, the military man is also quite efficient.
And there is no doubt that, if necessary, they will return this island by military means.
So far, only possible serious economic problems after such an action are holding back.

[Zaurbek]

... what if the Chinese bomb the positions first? Then the 5th column will betray the authorities?

[gorecc]

I don't know why the Taiwanese are so puffed up, no military purchases of American weapons will help them if Beijing decides to seize it by force. On the contrary, the more losses and damage they inflict on the PLA, the stronger the people will eventually be seized by the islanders themselves)

[Rage66]

"If there is no profit, do not move; if you cannot gain, do not use troops; if there is no danger, do not fight. The sovereign should not raise weapons because of his anger; the commander should not engage in battle because of his anger. then, when it corresponds to the benefit; if it does not correspond to the benefit, they remain in place. "
Sun tzu

[Nadrub]

This is all beautiful only on paper :) thanks to this book, China has been fucked by all and sundry more than a dozen times :)
Napoleon's thesis is that the main thing is to get involved in a battle, and then we'll see if it looks much more effective :)))

[Rage66]

Nevertheless, China is alive and is the second economy in the world (so far) ... But Rome, with its imperial manners and poking its nose into all holes, has already died in Bose ... He reminds me of someone ...

[Grits]

Quote: Rage66

He reminds me of someone ...

me too...

[Rage66]

In general, there are few states in the world with a 5000-year history ...

[Rage66]

Forgotten ... How did Napoleon finish?

[Nadrub]

Speech in general did not go about the current situation and you are substituting concepts .... the book is purely specifically about the art of WAR (combat) and not about the economy and the like. Napolen ended up tearing the floor of civilization with his audacity and bravery and was recorded in the annals of history as one of the most successful generals. And China, without winning a single war, writes clever treatises on how to quietly hide behind a fence, and wait for the hooligans to leave themselves :)

[Rage66]

Let me remind you again ... Napoleon did not break anything except his leggings ... On a historical scale, he is a crazy grain of sand, and his fame warms the French very much, but does not mean anything from the point of view of the world order ... If you are a fan of significant figures, give as an example Hitler ... But, something tells me, you are ashamed ... I am talking about the formula for large-scale and continuous pressure (not to be confused with pressure) ... In this sense, China is a woman in physiology ... It provides result ... A matter of time ... In this sense, Napoleon is pathetic ... He is a man and a weak man ... And the strongest male antagonist in China was, perhaps, Tamerlane ... But he could not stand the test of time ...

[Rage66]

And you take Sun Tzu's book very narrowly ... It is not about war in the modern sense ...

[Rage66]

Can you list it "more than a dozen times"?

[Sergei 23]

The U.S. air-launched cruise missile deal is part of the largest pool of contracts signed between Taiwan and the United States in recent memory. The amount of these contracts is $ 7 billion. He warmed up the market in known ways and got a contract for his military-industrial complex !!!! (And all love so to speak)

[Pavel57]

The ruins of Taiwan are not needed by the PRC.

[Mavrikiy]

"If Beijing uses ships for amphibious assault, they will go to the bottom": Taiwan experts on the effectiveness of SLAM-ER missiles

The general mentality is felt.
SLAM no-no, SPAM, so cooler. (I don’t know what this is, but it sounds more brutal)

The American SLAM-ER air-launched cruise missiles have the highest accuracy (minimum possible deviation from the target) of all missiles of this class.

They said and you believed. Childish naivety.
Buy from RF, cheaper, more accurate and more reliable.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: askort154

Gennady Fomkin] For this "Motor Sich" didn't give up to them, they are only interested in those. documentation.

You cannot assemble an engine from "technical documentation".
The Americans took out not only the "technical documentation" for the "Fau", but also the finished products together with Brown and his charges, and we got only parts of the missiles that had not yet been assembled. It was with the German "Fau" that the breakthrough in rocketry began in the USA and the USSR. Korolev with his "special forces", took out the remnants of the Americans, and collected 11 missiles. The first tests in "Kapustin Yar" were passed - 9 were unsuccessful, the next 2 - successfully. After that, a whole rocket industry was created in the USSR.

You can also find specialists if you want, how many German designers worked there in our design bureaus. Korolev had his own experience and a lot of money and resources.

[fa2998]

Does Taiwan have enough missiles? China can deploy such an amphibious flotilla - don't worry!

[Doccor18]

American air-launched cruise missiles

This is news, so news ... Nonsense of a Taiwanese patriot and adore of everything American ..
Even if someday the PRC is going to seize the island with the help of weapons (which is unlikely), this operation will begin with a massive missile strike on the islanders. Airfields, air defense systems, bases, headquarters and large warehouses will burn. Then the PLA aviation will fly and iron the whole thing. And only then the UDC / BDK with the Marine Corps will come into play. So these air-launched anti-ship missiles will definitely not help them. And American corporations, as always, earned 7 yards ...

[user1212]

Quote: Doccor18

And American corporations, as always, earned 7 yards ...

At best, 6, or even less. There are elections in the USA, but the desired result cannot buy itself

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: fa2998

Does Taiwan have enough missiles? China can deploy such an amphibious flotilla - don't worry!

They will throw their hats over them, if every Chinese man throws a cap off and stops selling rare earths, then you won't envy Taiwan

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Doccor18

American air-launched cruise missiles

This is news, so news ... Nonsense of a Taiwanese patriot and adore of everything American ..
Even if someday the PRC is going to seize the island with the help of weapons (which is unlikely), this operation will begin with a massive missile strike on the islanders. Airfields, air defense systems, bases, headquarters and large warehouses will burn. Then the PLA aviation will fly and iron the whole thing. And only then the UDC / BDK with the Marine Corps will come into play. So these air-launched anti-ship missiles will definitely not help them. And American corporations, as always, earned 7 yards ...

Why is it not a sin to breed suckers

[Prisoner]

These rockets that for support, paired by amers "friends" "tanwans", can only support their pants and then not for long. With a serious mess, China, with its production rate and available weapons, will roll them not only into asphalt, but much deeper.

[Esoteric]

Can someone explain why we love China so much? I really can't understand. They are the same "friends" to us as a dog to a cat, is it really not clear? Especially my opinion - the worse for China, the better for Russia. And we must work for this, because in politics there are no friends and enemies, there are only interests.

[Al_lexx]

Yes, no one here loves China. We have too many people who can only perceive what they have been explained in detail (on TV). )))

[Essex62]

Woo. You are broadcasting the truth. An effective manager probably? You always have your hobby interests in priority, and personal ones. That is why the country remained without allies. Personal affection, in a sense, friendship, is not the least important in interstate relations. More precisely it had. The hucksters have crushed the planet for themselves. Only benefit.
And dogs and cats live very amicably.
I have a dog with a cat sleeping on each other. When the dog died, the cat did not go to the bowl for a week and crumpled pitifully. These are animals, and we are people.

[Esoteric]

The basis of the policy of any country should be only one - that would be good for the citizens of their country, and for the rest, you understand. It is normal for its citizens to feel good. When good living conditions have been created for their population, no one is starving or begging, then you can feed, for example, African countries, engage in charity in relation to them. But not before.
There are no friends in politics. So it was and will be. You need your own interests. If at a given moment in time it is profitable for Russia to support China - it must be supported, it has become not profitable - it is not necessary to support. Will you say it cynically? So politics is cynicism in the cube.
I advise you to read the book by A. Bushkov - "Rasputin. Shot from the Past". There is a lot about the politics of friendship, what it led to, and how it all ended. Very sobering from the "brothers".

[Essex62]

And you read the Strugatskys. On the basis of modern achievements of science and technology, it is already possible to create the society described by them. Let me emphasize that it is technically possible. To bring the population to a common intellectual denominator is a work that is naturally colossal, but with the right approach, it is quite doable. The Bolsheviks taught to read and write, 90% illiterate population of Ingushetia. Utilitarian and not comparable in scale, but always an example. Everything rests against the inveterate ideology of national disunity and religion. People were divided into tribes, and then nations and states, because it was easier to survive that way. Now it is very difficult to erase individualism, layers of nats and religious dogmas from the brains. But we must strive for this. Well, or at least set a goal. I wrote about this. And with your post I completely agree, the Stalinist cannot think otherwise. The building of socialism in a single country, at the first stage, its installation and program of action. Relevant now as never before. For your own to create, after export.

[Esoteric]

Stalinist? Don't, don't, mind me, mind I love freedom, in its broadest sense. Stalinism, it's not about freedom, it's about something else entirely. Communism? I agree, maybe in a thousand or two years, mankind will come to him, if he lives, of course. When the mentality changes completely, if you like, the spirit will defeat the animal principle in man. But now it is a complete utopia, impossible in principle. IMHO.

[Essex62]

Rumors about the lack of freedom in the Union are greatly exaggerated. Freedom is different. The one that the bourgeoisie is more like a concentration camp. It is not for everyone.
I agree with the rest.

[APASUS]

I think China has enough resources so that not one plane from Taiwan takes off at all. And the distance of 130 km is not so critical.

[Al_lexx]

And what about the Taiwanese strategists (?):
Suddenly, in the early morning, on their radars, flashing of several hundred / thousand targets.
The Chinese are stupidly launching a cloud of unrealistically patriotic and pepper-smeared asses of junks who are avalanching towards Taiwan. If the Thais start shooting at them, then the PRC accuses them of shooting freed defectors. And if not, then amphibious floating means are behind them.

The Chinese have a collective mind, almost like insects. Not in the sense that I reduce them to, but in the sense that they are extreme anti-individualists, which they have repeatedly proved and prove in practice. They have a swarm like bees. And it is impossible to fight a swarm while there is a womb. And shoot expensive rockets at plywood boats ..

[Phoenix]

The rocket is subsonic, in vain Taiwan puffs up. Such gravicapters have learned to shoot down a long time ago.

[Sancho_SP]

Why shoot them down? If we go to Taiwan, then only after a complete blockade and a couple of weeks of missile processing from aircraft and from the continent. There are not many airfields and aircraft carriers in Taiwan, there will simply be no one to answer.

[Sancho_SP]

Pure chatter. Capturing Taiwan would be very costly in every sense, but would do no good other than removing the American military base. A kind of Crimea in a square.

[Viktor Sergeev]

And China does not have fighters to sweep away carriers, bombers and missiles from the sky to destroy Taiwan's aviation. China will smash Taiwan in a few days, if, of course, it dares to quarrel with the United States.

[Servisinzhener]

Taiwan's independence is not in the number of aircraft, missiles and coastal defenses. The source of this independence is 100% external and is called the USA. If the United States ceases to fulfill this function, then there will be no talk of an independent Taiwan. And there will be only two options. The first. Subject surrender. Second. Heroic but very short-lived resistance. Because the military potential of the countries is too different not in favor of Taiwan.

[lvov_aleksey]

they also say why Crimea is ours !!!
ps our little green men made it simple and beautiful, and most importantly cheap.
And most importantly, the West was not pleased !!!!!!!!!!
If someone does not understand, then Sevastopol will never join NATO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lara Croft]

with the help of SLAM-ER, the air force of the island will be able to control the Taiwan Strait and "keep in sight, for example, PLA naval assault ships"

It remains to be hoped that the aircraft with anti-ship missiles will have time to take off ...
It would be better if they would buy land mobile anti-ship missiles ...

[Holsten]

Only practice the criterion of truth or don't say “Gop!” Until you drown. The landing can be carried out after the suppression of missile launchers from the air.

[AB]

These not very smart ones, who are from Taiwan, completely forgot about the presence of the PLA Airborne Corps in the Chinese army. When the paratroopers finish seizing the coast, then the Navy will come up. But does China need it?

[Har yasta]

The picture of the military invasion of Taiwan is described in the book by Western author Ian Easton, The Chinese Threat of Invasion: The Defense of Taiwan and American Strategy in Asia (https://topcor.ru/8395-scenarij-vojny-smozhet-li-kitaj-vzjat-tajvan- siloj.html). And back in 2018, VO had an article War of two Chinas: myth or real scenario? https://topwar.ru/148241-vojna-dvuh-kitaev-mif-ili-realnyj-scenarij.html
Some comments smell like gag and ignorance of the topic.