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German Defense Minister's words about the use of chemical weapons against Navalny are a reason to think about the competence of the official

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To determine the professional competence of the Minister of Defense of a country in the world today, his judgments regarding the use of chemical weapons... Among the defense ministers of the countries of the world, which clearly do not differ in professional competence, is also the head of the German military department Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer.


According to the German official, the Bundeswehr "received evidence of the use of chemical weapons against Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny."

German Defense Minister:

The proven use of chemical weapons raises serious questions for the Russian authorities. Our next steps will depend on Moscow's actions.

Kramp-Karrenbauer said she was ready to discuss the introduction of anti-Russian sanctions, including sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. According to the Minister of Defense of Germany, she "did not hide before that" SP-2 "does not belong to Germany's favorite projects," from her point of view.

The statement about the "proven use of chemical weapons" against a person who eventually survived, on whose body and in the analyzes of which initially no traces of toxicants were found by three laboratories, sounds strange. An even greater reason to doubt the competence of the German Minister of Defense is given by the fact that Ms. Kramp-Karrenbauer actually suggests believing in a certain selectivity of the actions of chemical weapons. It turns out that only one person turned out to be "amazed", who at the same time contacted dozens of different people, including airport employees, plane passengers, and in the end contacted family and friends.
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  1. Don karleone
    Don karleone 7 September 2020 06: 11 New
    17
    Open day "kanatchikova dacha
    1. Temples
      Temples 7 September 2020 06: 22 New
      19
      Defense Minister Baba.
      Besides, scary, disheveled, unkempt.
      Fu
      They lowered the Germans below the plinth.

      You need to send them.

      For that, the whole world understands that the budeswehr is subordinated not to this scarecrow, but to the American general.

      With the grandmother-chancellor, the same garbage.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 7 September 2020 06: 31 New
        10
        Quote: Temples
        Besides, scary, disheveled, unkempt.
        Fu

        Quote: Don Karleone
        Open day "kanatchikova dacha

        And what to do, everything is done there. Either a carnation, or in a test tube. They forgot to invite God, so he did not breathe the spirit into them. Now they walk around with bowls of eyes. request Poor. Even the poor are not drawn.
        1. Arthur73
          Arthur73 7 September 2020 07: 47 New
          +8
          In the Middle Ages, the inquisitors thinned out the gene pool well, and the result was masculine.
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        2. SOVIET UNION 2
          SOVIET UNION 2 7 September 2020 08: 26 New
          +5
          The Russian Federation continues to cut and use chemical weapons.
          Well, if the Professor is such a doc! Other countries are not developing chemical and bacteriological weapons at all? Does the professor offer to repent? And what will the Professor say about those from whom the name of the gas mustard came?
          For the first time, mustard gas was used by Germany on July 12, 1917 against the Anglo-French troops, who were fired at with mines containing an oily liquid, near the Belgian city of Ypres (hence the name of this substance) [3].

          In addition, mustard gas was used in the Italo-Ethiopian war of 1935-1936.

          In December 1943, as a result of the bombing of the city of Bari by German aircraft, the American transport "John Harvey", carrying mustard gas bombs, was sunk. A large number of American sailors and local residents were poisoned, including fatalities, as a result of the gas leak
          How about those who used the Cyclone Gas? Will there be condemnation?
          1. Alena Frolovna
            Alena Frolovna 7 September 2020 08: 29 New
            20
            Comrad was poisoned with a chemical warfare agent. Confirmed fact.


            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 7 September 2020 20: 17 New
              +1
              No, well, I understand that the editorial board cannot write directly. And we can! Let's just say so: the fact of the Russophobic arrogant stupidity and corruption of the German Defense Minister, the masculine Karrenbauer, is clearly confirmed!
        3. aglet
          aglet 7 September 2020 08: 32 New
          18
          "Comrad was poisoned with a chemical warfare agent. The fact is confirmed."
          what kind of substance is it? and who confirmed this fact? this is a "newbie" that it is not a poisonous substance, but a means to increase fame, they almost forgot about the organism, and then bang! hiley-likely, naturally, a very strange poisonous substance, three of them were poisoned with all care, they even applied to their trousers and on the door handles, it's useless, they don't die. and now you can't just go to the Salisberetsky spire, to admire, only on a business trip. and in Tomsk, again, they suddenly recognize on the video how you lubricate bulk panties with gas.
          1. Arthur73
            Arthur73 7 September 2020 09: 07 New
            11
            The German press claims that the traces of a newcomer were found on a bottle from under the water from an airplane in which a bulk was flown. A strange thing. On a bottle from an airplane, there is, but only Alesha was poisoned. The rest of the passengers were sitting in protective equipment? Or there was so much space on the plane that Nobody else got it? And even the one who touched this bottle? The collective West is lying again. However, they are not the first. In the last century, the Germans already staged provocations, after which they invaded neighboring countries.
          2. aszzz888
            aszzz888 7 September 2020 12: 33 New
            +1

            aglet
            Today, 08: 32
            NEW

            15
            "Comrad was poisoned with a chemical warfare agent. The fact is confirmed."
            what kind of substance is it? and who confirmed this fact?
            Like who? professor fool already concocted the accusation. wink
        4. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 September 2020 08: 34 New
          10
          Quote: Professor
          Comrad was poisoned with a chemical warfare agent. The fact is confirmed.

          Well then, the facts are on the table for honeys! And so to tell lies without proof, and even to the Minister of Defense, it is a shame for Germany.
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            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 7 September 2020 09: 41 New
              +7
              Quote: Professor
              ... The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation did not initiate a case. I did not send a request to Germany. Why? A citizen of the Russian Federation was not injured?

              As always, "misinformation" drive the dear Professor -
              Moscow. August 27. INTERFAX.RU - The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation sent to Germany a request for legal assistance on the situation with the oppositionist Alexei Navalny, who was brought from Omsk in a coma to the Berlin clinic Charite, told Interfax, the official representative of the supervisory agency Andrei Ivanov.
              He explained that Russia is interested in the evidence of the preliminary diagnoses presented by the clinic, as well as documents regarding medical data and research of German specialists both during the transportation of a Russian citizen from Russia to Germany, and during his stay in the Charite clinic.
              Ivanov also stressed that Russia, for its part, is ready to provide Germany with the expertise and research conducted after Navalny's hospitalization. Germany has expressed its readiness to cooperate with Russian law enforcement agencies, a representative of the Prosecutor General's Office said.
              1. Professor
                Professor 7 September 2020 10: 09 New
                -17
                She did not open a case. I did not send an official request so there is no case.
                Interpol was not contacted
                The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is busy with the development of relations with Serbia. Not to some kind of poisoning.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 7 September 2020 10: 19 New
                  +9
                  Quote: Professor
                  Interpol was not contacted

                  And they did not apply to the Society for the Protection of Animals (Agudat tsaar baalei haim), and they forgot to contact Sportloto.
                  1. Motorist
                    Motorist 7 September 2020 23: 07 New
                    +1
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    And did not contact the Society for the Protection of Animals

                    I think UNESCO has not received a request either. laughing

                    "Here is a mineral, here is a chatl, here is a tsak, and I attached the pebbles and sand to the explanatory note and handed it over to the dean's office of Raechka so that it could be sent to UNESCO."
            2. Olgovich
              Olgovich 7 September 2020 10: 08 New
              13
              Quote: Professor
              1. The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation is not excited.

              Learn to write in Russian, yes.

              She did not initiate a case, because there are NO grounds - NO traces of poisoning (other poisoned, objects, witnesses) in Russia by the Pre-Investigative Check have NOT been identified
              Quote: Professor
              I did not send a request to Germany.

              Stupid lying nonsense: on 27 August requested
              Quote: Professor
              Why? A citizen of the Russian Federation was not injured?

              THOUSANDS of people suffer / poison themselves daily and independently.
              Business ... exciting?
              Quote: Professor
              They still have not recognized the spire tourists and green men with the downed Boeing.

              It is impossible to recognize what was not.

              But this WAS:
              BBC: Saddam's weapons of mass destruction turned out lies
              -YOUR Western blatant lie, on the basis of which you have killed a MILLION people.

              WHO is the West "after that, with their STUPID" truthful "statements? A decent person will never give him his hand after and after the" chemical attacks "of the white xcs.
              Quote: Professor
              ... The Russian Federation took upon itself an obligation in connection with chemical weapons and violated them. Either wear panties or remove the cross.

              Stupid unsubstantiated lie. In contrast to the USA which still exists today, the USA allegedly has no money to destroy it. Lying and hypocritical cattle ...
              1. aszzz888
                aszzz888 7 September 2020 12: 28 New
                +6

                Olgovich (Andrey)
                Today, 10: 08
                NEW ...Stupid unsubstantiated lie... In contrast to the USA which still exists today, the USA allegedly has no money to destroy it. Lying and hypocritical cattle ...
                This is what professor (Oleg Sokolov) is spreading with gusto. He is happy with at least something to spoil Russia. That is how it is.
            3. Grits
              Grits 7 September 2020 10: 15 New
              +7
              Quote: Professor
              A citizen of the Russian Federation was not injured?

              Duc is such a citizen for whom all other citizens of Russia are ashamed. Do you really think that they just adore him here in Russia? The overwhelming majority thinks - Lyosha will die - there he deserves. The devils have been waiting for him for a long time.
              1. Professor
                Professor 7 September 2020 10: 45 New
                -16
                1. Citizens are all the same and the state should take care of all equally.
                2. The authorities are afraid of him.
                3. Extrajudicial killings are illegal.
                1. aszzz888
                  aszzz888 7 September 2020 12: 25 New
                  -1

                  Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                  Today, 10: 45
                  NEW

                  -6
                  1. Citizens are all the same and the state should take care of all equally.
                  2. The authorities are afraid of him.
                  3. Extrajudicial killings are illegal.
                  There is a Merikatos picture .... 1994 ‧ Comedy / Eccentric Comedy ‧ 1 h 53 min. I recommend at least looking at the title. tongue
                2. Grits
                  Grits 7 September 2020 13: 21 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Professor
                  The authorities are afraid of him.

                  The authorities are afraid of this CHMO? Heh, you are extremely naive, dear. Don't tell my slippers.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 7 September 2020 13: 41 New
                    -9
                    Afraid of the fire and tried to poison. The fabulous is not only afraid to admit Navalny to the elections, but he is afraid to even pronounce the name exo. laughing
                    1. Essex62
                      Essex62 7 September 2020 15: 09 New
                      +4
                      Extrajudicial executions, by your state, have been applied for decades.
                    2. cat Rusich
                      cat Rusich 7 September 2020 19: 56 New
                      +2
                      Oleg, just think about why they didn't use the "classics of the genre" - ricin (Georgy Markov 11.09.1978/23.11.2006/XNUMX), polonium (A. Litvinenko XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX) ... would pour a "half liter" of technical alcohol into Navalny - and say: poisoned with vodka ... "
                      1. aszzz888
                        aszzz888 8 September 2020 06: 53 New
                        0

                        cat Rusich
                        Yesterday, 19: 56
                        NEW

                        +1
                        Oleg, just think why didn't they use the "classics of the genre" - ricin (Georgy Markov 11.09.1978), polonium (A. Litvinenko 23.11.2006) ... would pour a "half liter" of technical alcohol into Navalny - and say: "I myself poisoned myself with fired vodka .. . "
                        And who will let him "think"? There is a training manual, and he follows it relentlessly. At the same time, putting himself in a very stupid position. But no way, they told him to pour on the fan - it means you have to pour.
                    3. cat Rusich
                      cat Rusich 7 September 2020 20: 11 New
                      0
                      professor, and this is how they are poisoning for real - 1995 Ivan Kivelidi, an unknown poison (still) by an unknown person was applied to the telephone receiver of a stationary telephone in the office - first the secretary died, after 2 days I. Kivelidi himself, after a month and a half by a pathologist who performed an autopsy. ..
            4. Fitter65
              Fitter65 7 September 2020 10: 46 New
              +2
              Quote: Professor
              1. The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation did not initiate a case. I did not send a request to Germany. Why? A citizen of the Russian Federation was not injured?

              And why and because of what. Where is the evidence that he was poisoned, and not he himself picked up something before the flight, picked it up from the floor and ate it. Many passengers saw how he nibbled several times, the first time when he straightened the laces, at the entrance, the second time before the check-in counter, and when he went to the toilet several times in the waiting room, who knows what he was doing there. Maybe Alibasov sipped something that was not intended for the body. By the way, those who are supposed to have a case, just in case ...
            5. Fitter65
              Fitter65 7 September 2020 10: 55 New
              +2
              Quote: Professor
              Don't get caught.

              So no one was caught, except for people with a low level of intellectual development, who do not even understand what they themselves write and say. Especially about the point-selective effect of chemical weapons. Which always and everywhere qualifies as a Weapon of Mass Destruction - and not otherwise. Even precision weapons have a circular deviation probability.
              1. aszzz888
                aszzz888 7 September 2020 12: 22 New
                +3

                +1
                Quote: Professor
                Don't get caught.

                So no one was caught, except for people with a low level of intellectual development - who do not even understand what they write themselves and they say.
                This is especially noticeable in the posts of the professor. wink
            6. aszzz888
              aszzz888 7 September 2020 12: 31 New
              0

              Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
              Today, 09: 33
              NEW

              -21
              1. The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation did not initiate a case. I did not send a request to Germany. Why? A citizen of the Russian Federation was not injured?
              Oh, what are we, "zaperezhival" for a citizen of the Russian Federation !!! laughing It carries troll meat! wassat
        5. figwam
          figwam 7 September 2020 08: 49 New
          12
          Quote: Professor
          Comrad was poisoned with a chemical warfare agent. The fact is confirmed.

          Stupid amateur comment.
          1. Arthur73
            Arthur73 7 September 2020 09: 09 New
            14
            This is an israeli troll
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 7 September 2020 09: 42 New
              +4
              Quote: Arthur73
              This is an israeli troll

              If not worse.
            2. aszzz888
              aszzz888 7 September 2020 12: 21 New
              0
              Arthur73 (Arthur73)
              Today, 09: 09
              NEW

              12
              This is an israeli troll
              It shrinks to below the baseboard. wink
          2. Grits
            Grits 7 September 2020 10: 20 New
            +4
            Quote: figvam
            Stupid amateur comment.

            Apparently, the professor, despite his cool academic degree, has difficulty imagining what chemical warfare agent.
            It would be fun if someone like Shoigu joked - guys, do you know how BOV works? Find volunteers among the citizens who believe in the poisoning of Navalny (you can even have a small German town) and we will show how BOV works. You will be very impressed with the results
            1. Professor
              Professor 7 September 2020 12: 26 New
              -7
              BOV acts depending on its application. You can poison the whole plane, you can poison a bunch of people like with Skripal, or you can only try one like with Navalny. The main thing is not to dad like with Khaled Machel.
              1. aszzz888
                aszzz888 7 September 2020 12: 47 New
                +1

                Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                Today, 12: 26

                -1
                BOV acts depending on its application. One can poison the whole plane, can a bunch of people like Skripal, but can just try one like with Navalny.
                Eh! !!! There is nothing you can do about it. fool laughing tongue Pi. C. And a goat on a cart at the same time!
                1. Fitter65
                  Fitter65 7 September 2020 16: 18 New
                  0
                  Quote: aszzz888
                  And a goat on a cart at the same time!

                  No, they are from inexperience, or rather from illiteracy, trying to run the cart, but Masha had to be by the thigh.
              2. Grits
                Grits 7 September 2020 13: 23 New
                +3
                Quote: Professor
                but you can only try one like with Navalny

                Then it will not be called a chemical warfare agent, but a tincture of mushroom caps.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 7 September 2020 13: 44 New
                  -4
                  That is, when a sniper misses the target and the victim falls into a coma, then this is no longer a sniper combat weapon, but a firecracker to scare off flies?
                  1. aglet
                    aglet 7 September 2020 14: 30 New
                    -1
                    and what, you can also miss the poison? because they don't use it from a kilometer
                  2. Fitter65
                    Fitter65 7 September 2020 16: 22 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Professor
                    That is, when a sniper misses the target and the victim falls into a coma, then this is no longer a sniper combat weapon, but a firecracker to scare off flies?

                    Oh, how the person said correctly !!! By the way, how real snipers use Chemical weapons - none of them missed ...

                    www.pinterest.ru
                    German chlorine gas attack on the Eastern Front, WWI.
              3. aglet
                aglet 7 September 2020 14: 27 New
                +2
                "you can have a bunch of people like with Skripal"
                here about a bunch, in more detail, please. what is this heap, and how many of that heap died "in terrible convulsions"? well, except for the cat and the hamster, of course
                1. Fitter65
                  Fitter65 7 September 2020 16: 28 New
                  +1
                  Quote: aglet
                  "you can have a bunch of people like with Skripal"
                  here about a bunch, in more detail, please. what is this heap, and how many of that heap died "in terrible convulsions"? Well, except for the cat and the hamster, of course

                  And you vkurse that the cat walked on the roofs for two months - to whom should the owners of the cats show them? and hamsters are generally muddied there, they breed like politicians in Europe with a complete lack of intelligence, although hamsters are outsiders here ...
              4. garri-lin
                garri-lin 7 September 2020 22: 34 New
                +1
                You are a smart person. I always listen to your opinion. Agree disagree side. But you have a sober look. But here I do not agree with you. The newcomer became a hyped bogeyman. And in fact, the use of such a remedy for poisoning a specific person looks absolutely absurd. There are much more lethal ones. Much less visible. Almost no trace of drugs. Any qualified pharmaceutical company will confirm. It will not be difficult for the Russian special services to quietly remove a person on their territory. Why use an inefficient and unwieldy Newbie?
            2. aszzz888
              aszzz888 7 September 2020 12: 39 New
              -1

              Gritsa (Alexander)
              Today, 10: 20
              NEW

              +3
              Quote: figvam
              Stupid amateur comment.

              Apparently, the professor, despite his cool degree can hardly imagine what a chemical warfare agent is.
              What is the "cool scientific degree", what are you talking about? If only the initial accelerated courses of the troll! wink You don't need to pour a lot of mind on the fan.
          3. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 7 September 2020 10: 24 New
            +2
            Quote: figvam
            Stupid amateur comment.

            A manual from the State Department, for every case. There it is written about Navalny, and about Nemtsov, and about Sobol, and about everyone who needs to be protected, and the rest of the people, including the professor, do not need to be protected. Although I forgot the professor no longer lives in Russia.
        6. Olgovich
          Olgovich 7 September 2020 09: 53 New
          +7
          Quote: Professor
          Comrad was poisoned with a chemical warfare agent. Fact confirmed.

          Stupid unsubstantiated lie
          Quote: Professor
          The Russian Federation continues to cut and use chemical weapons.

          Stupid unsubstantiated lie
          Quote: Professor
          Now the gender and education of the Minister of Defense does not matter.

          Yes, she's just an idiot. Everything else doesn't matter.
          Quote: Professor
          You have to get caught.

          You can't get caught without getting caught.
        7. Grits
          Grits 7 September 2020 10: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          Comrad was poisoned with a chemical warfare agent. The fact is confirmed.

          The Russian Federation continues to cut and use chemical weapons. Hello to the spire lovers.

          Professor, I thought of you more highly. Until now, you have been distinguished by the adequacy of your judgments. Is it possible that the "Novichok" military non-poisonous substance also struck you?
        8. aszzz888
          aszzz888 7 September 2020 12: 20 New
          -1

          Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
          Today, 07:23 Komrad was poisoned with a chemical warfare agent. The fact is confirmed.
          Н
          Another one shines)) with his abilities! laughing fool fool laughing Do not disgrace, associate professor)) wassat tongue laughing
        9. orionvitt
          orionvitt 7 September 2020 13: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Professor
          The fact is confirmed.

          Is there an autumn aggravation in Israel too?
        10. bukhach
          bukhach 7 September 2020 13: 55 New
          0
          Quote: Professor
          Comrad was poisoned with a chemical warfare agent. The fact is confirmed.

          The Russian Federation continues to cut and use chemical weapons. Hello to the spire lovers.

          Now the gender and education of the Minister of Defense does not matter.


          You have to get caught.

          Are you a professor or an imposter? Apparently you are at most a laboratory assistant, no more. No, well, if for sour cabbage soup, then, of course, there are no questions.
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 8 September 2020 06: 59 New
            0

            bukhach (oleg)
            Yesterday, 13: 55
            NEW

            +1
            Quote: Professor
            Comrad was poisoned with a chemical warfare agent. The fact is confirmed.

            The Russian Federation continues to cut and use chemical weapons. Hello to the spire lovers.

            Now the gender and education of the Minister of Defense does not matter.


            You have to get caught.

            Are you sure a professor or an imposter? some kind of laboratory assistant, no more.No, well, if for sour cabbage soup, then, of course, there are no questions.
            And even then it is dangerous to trust the test tubes! Either he will interrupt them, or he will not wash them. wink laughing
      3. Sibguest
        Sibguest 7 September 2020 15: 11 New
        0
        So she is Frau KAKOY TOPFUhrer - and must be terrible - like war.
        Well, as for the presence of a lack of brains: SO BABA IS IN POWER!
      4. Fantazer911
        Fantazer911 7 September 2020 15: 34 New
        0
        Come on, J. Psaki's case lives on and will live on!
    2. Finches
      Finches 7 September 2020 06: 39 New
      19
      "Sprat [Newbie] is easier to poison these days than vodka" laughing

      For me personally, the statement of Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer once again confirms that Germany is only a country occupied by the Anglo-Saxons and its independence is no different, for example, from the independence of Ukraine - and there and there the ministers of defense (and not only) are appointed by the State Department! What touches me, even Navalny's supporters know that he is a national traitor and acts exclusively in the interests of the American people, but they still support - why, but because the fate of Russia interests them in the last place, they are interested in their own selfish interests! That's the whole price of this opposition! Therefore, Crimea is bad, the bridge to Crimea is even nastier, but the protests of the nigirs in the USA, the demolition of monuments and the destruction of shops are cool and the top of a liberal, true, democracy!
      This is not even idiotism, but simply the absence of any mental activity in principle ... Putin poisoned Navalny (somehow sluggishly, however), but released him to Germany, so that everyone would know about it and again attacked him ... Sudoplatov and Skorzeny is giving a standing ovation to this mnogokhodovochka of the Kremlin! laughing
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 September 2020 09: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        because the fate of Russia interests them in the last turn, they are interested in their own selfish interests! That's the whole price of this opposition!


        Do not count the rich in the world!
        Mani, mani, mani,
        Everything sparkles in the world of the rich!

        But traitors don't get rich, it's time to learn that. The traitor's price is 30 pieces of silver, and no more.
    3. Bar1
      Bar1 7 September 2020 07: 34 New
      +3
      and they are also cheaper than selling gas to Belarusians, one might wonder who shits in his pocket.
      1. SOVIET UNION 2
        SOVIET UNION 2 7 September 2020 08: 31 New
        +1
        and they are also cheaper than selling gas to Belarusians, one might wonder who shits in his pocket.
        But this is an interesting question! Maybe that's why they sell gas to Germany cheaper than Russians and Belarusians because Germany is constantly putting a stick in its wheels? Germany would be silent, the price would rise! And so the wool stood on end, and the price of gas fell!
    4. antivirus
      antivirus 7 September 2020 08: 19 New
      +4
      Nobody saw Gena's smile, but we still believe in the good intentions of the crocodile.
      When will the FRG Minister of Defense smile? and for what reason?
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 7 September 2020 08: 27 New
        +4
        In my opinion, there is also a reason to think about the competence of those who allowed Navalny to be taken out of the Russian jurisprudence. You have to be either full of shibanuts to allow such a thing, or ... a traitor. Just don’t talk about another "mnogohovochka", or HPP - no one in their right mind will believe in such a thing.
        1. aglet
          aglet 7 September 2020 09: 19 New
          +2
          "In my opinion, there is also a reason to think about the competence of those who allowed Navalny to be taken out of the Russian jurisprudence."
          something like this, at one time, the Sobchak was evacuated, when his Prosecutor General's Office took for his soul, he suddenly fell ill, and he could only be treated there. Someone also helped, even have thoughts who
    5. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 7 September 2020 08: 41 New
      12
      This is a reason to think about the official's mental health ..
    6. Maz
      Maz 7 September 2020 09: 34 New
      +5
      Only after resigning from office they begin to think for themselves, and before that, like zombies with a wire in their heads from the main American server
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 September 2020 09: 51 New
        +4
        Quote: Maz
        Only after resigning from office they begin to think for themselves, and before that, like zombies with a wire in their heads

        No, they think, the same as we do, but they are attached to someone else's trough, and the trough drowns out any thought. The feeder is gone - the thought has come.
    7. Vend
      Vend 7 September 2020 10: 37 New
      +1
      reason to reflect on the competence of an official
      Yes, Western officials have long proved their incompetence laughing
  2. askort154
    askort154 7 September 2020 06: 14 New
    +9
    Yesterday the Greens tied SP-2 to the tragicomedy with Navalny, today the German Defense Minister is also
    made a link to the SP-2. And Trump gave it out slyly, I don't know anything about the "poisoning" yet.
    With the naked eye, you can see who benefits from the provocation with Navalny. Themselves blabbed.
    1. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 7 September 2020 08: 42 New
      +3
      Yes, here the trend is already clear! The West blames others for what it itself is soiled for! Is it really incomprehensible? They have all the poisoners except themselves! Paradox? Well, let's take the 20th century! Who persecuted? Yes, enlightened and civilized Europeans! Is not it? 21 century. Who blames poisoning and arranges provocations with toxic substances? Who shook the test tube?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 September 2020 08: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      Yesterday the Greens tied SP-2 to the tragicomedy with Navalny, today the German Defense Minister is also

      Most likely opponents of Angela Merkel launched an attack on SP-2
  3. sergo1914
    sergo1914 7 September 2020 06: 18 New
    14
    Why is there. A thermonuclear bomb was used against him. Analyzes confirm.
  4. Deniska999
    Deniska999 7 September 2020 06: 23 New
    -18
    Well, she is not a biochemist; accordingly, she relies on the conclusions of experts.
    1. Adam Khomich
      Adam Khomich 7 September 2020 06: 59 New
      +9
      Quote: Deniska999
      expert conclusions.

      Do experts with world names have surnames? And where can you find these conclusions? Not to offer Blokher's "opinions" :-)
    2. Tatyana Pershina
      Tatyana Pershina 7 September 2020 07: 05 New
      +5
      Quote: Deniska999
      Well, she is not a biochemist; accordingly, she relies on the conclusions of experts.

      Experts would be expert ...
      1. Amorphis
        Amorphis 7 September 2020 08: 53 New
        +6
        Trample the control group with a real Novice and look at the survivors. For the purity of the experiment, TS
    3. Grits
      Grits 7 September 2020 10: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Deniska999
      Well, she is not a biochemist; accordingly, she relies on the conclusions of experts.

      I am not a biochemist either, but I try to be friends with my head and not rely on the conclusions of storytellers and insane
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 September 2020 06: 24 New
    +7
    Yes, such officials are just "talking heads" ... what they prepare, then they say. I would be literate, I would read it in advance, I would ask for clarification. But alas. This is not in their (bureaucratic) rules. Their job is to read out everything they have written (reported) in a confident voice. Questions to those who brewed this porridge.
  6. Victor Chernenko
    Victor Chernenko 7 September 2020 06: 40 New
    +2
    Complete degeneration of Europeans is not far off. Empires always fall apart, whether they like it or not.
  7. pin_code
    pin_code 7 September 2020 06: 46 New
    +3
    chemical weapons, weapons of mass destruction, someone else suffered besides Navalny? this is the first ... the second ... let them buy gas from the FSA. only our defective managers, alas .. will not be able to buy technology, because they are very greedy, and so it could well be enriched on gas supplies from beyond the Atlantic.
  8. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 7 September 2020 06: 46 New
    +4
    Such a photo should be disseminated in every possible way among women fighting for gender equality, with the slogan: Do you want to be like this?
    And among the male population, arrange a survey on the topic: Do you want to be with those?
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 7 September 2020 07: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Michael m
      Such a photo should be disseminated in every possible way among the ladies who are fighting for gender equality, with the slogan: Do you want to be like this?
      And among the male population, arrange a survey on the topic: Do you want to be with those?

      ===
      everything is fine here. husband and three children. and the fight for gender equality is nothing more than a pass through the career ladder
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 September 2020 09: 56 New
        -1
        Quote: Victorio
        Such a photo should be disseminated in every possible way among women fighting for gender equality, with the slogan: Do you want to become like that?

        Suffrage is a phenomenon of ugly ladies. If you don't believe me, then take a look ...
  9. Fungus
    Fungus 7 September 2020 06: 46 New
    +5
    The Germans poisoned Navalny as a newcomer to the clinic.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 September 2020 10: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Fungus
      The Germans poisoned Navalny as a newcomer to the clinic.

      Yes, now the whole clinic there would have died. Nerve gases are "Inhale, scream, death!" And this is either mushrooms, or left moonshine with dust.
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 7 September 2020 11: 19 New
        +1
        Hmm, what a cry? Indistinct wheezing when trying to inhale or exhale ...
  10. Mityasha
    Mityasha 7 September 2020 06: 48 New
    +8
    I cannot draw a parallel between Navalny and the German Ministry of Defense. They just have nothing to do there. Migrants are no longer interested, and the virus is on the side ...
    1. Arthur73
      Arthur73 7 September 2020 07: 52 New
      +2
      They have something to do. They are fighting against SP2 by any means. So the bulk is allegedly poisoned by the "red-haired", and again the "newbie", a kind of gas that seems to poison but is safe for others. And, of course, highlikli.
      1. aglet
        aglet 7 September 2020 08: 41 New
        +2
        "So the bulk is allegedly poisoned by a" red-haired "redhead, and again a" newbie ", a kind of gas that seems to poison but is safe for others. And, of course, highlikli."
        And what's interesting is that you can buy everywhere, day and night, in any store, and even without a passport. it is necessary to suggest that they sell from 10 to 22, and not every day. otherwise no "newbie" will be enough
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 September 2020 10: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Mityasha
      I cannot draw a parallel between Navalny and the German Ministry of Defense.

      There is only one parallel: "When a dog has nothing to do, it always ... licks"
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 September 2020 12: 04 New
      0
      Quote: Mityasha
      Can't draw a parallel between Navalny and the German Ministry of Defense

      The question is, "when did this minister find out who this bulk is?" I recently watched a video clip of a speech by Kashpirovsky, who lives abroad, about the arrest of Furgal. His words "Release Furchal", behind the scenes the female voice of "Furgala", Kashpirovsky "Let me out of Furfawala's dialect." HE does not even know who, and who Furgal is.
  11. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 7 September 2020 06: 55 New
    -1
    What else can the "minister of defense" of occupied Germany say?
    It would be better if she was engaged in her own female affairs. Or who is she now according to the Western gender classification?
  12. Simon
    Simon 7 September 2020 07: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Quote: Temples
    Besides, scary, disheveled, unkempt.
    Fu

    Quote: Don Karleone
    Open day "kanatchikova dacha

    And what to do, everything is done there. Either a carnation, or in a test tube. They forgot to invite God, so he did not breathe the spirit into them. Now they walk around with bowls of eyes. request Poor. Even the poor are not drawn.

    Well done! Nicely said! laughing good
  13. Dynamic systems
    Dynamic systems 7 September 2020 07: 10 New
    +5
    Yeah ... There won't be enough psychoanalysts for gayrope. am Even without the "newbies" you see how they are brought in ...
    A pompous woman, a similar Negro patient, mumbled something about Limpopo - they did not close it ... crying
    Grandma Clinton in a hat twitched and barked on the air - they did not close it ... wassat laughing
    This is not "Newbie". Rather - "Old Man" fellow
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 7 September 2020 07: 12 New
    +4
    Why should we think for their ministers ??? We had enough of our own "magicians" .... it's scary to remember! And it's not a fact that this will not happen again !!!
    1. Adam Khomich
      Adam Khomich 7 September 2020 07: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      We had enough of our own "magicians" .... it's scary to remember!

      At a meeting of the Carnegie Endowment in Washington, the late Prime Minister Yegor Gaidar, to applause from an American audience, boasted of how he destroyed the Russian military-industrial complex. However, he did not mention that it also deprived millions of Russians and Ukrainians of the livelihoods (Anatol Lieven, Prospect magazine (UK).
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 September 2020 08: 03 New
        +1
        So it turns out that to show "OUR" to the top, who "rubs" in our power, a CHINESE high-ranking official should PUBLICALLY show his contempt for such faces !!!
        Normal, responsible, upper ones should be stressed when they are poked in this way in their own guano !!!
        Let's see who, what we have up there ???
        PS And the Chinese comrades can only say THANKS !!! Maybe even so it will reach our top that it was impossible, this should not continue!
  15. stayer
    stayer 7 September 2020 07: 13 New
    +4
    I don't quite understand Navalny. The fact that he doesn't give a damn about Russia and its people is obvious. And he was noticed more than once for receiving buns from the State Department. But as he was told, Alexey, we will poison you a little, you play along with us. Do not worry, you will not die (maybe), but at this time we are using the hype for our own purposes. The instinct of self-preservation should he have? Lying in a coma, he can remain a vegetable forever. Isn't she afraid?
    1. Mishanya 74
      Mishanya 74 7 September 2020 07: 59 New
      -2
      And what goodies from the State Department can you find out?
      1. Arthur73
        Arthur73 7 September 2020 09: 14 New
        0
        Ask Gorbachev.
        1. Mishanya 74
          Mishanya 74 7 September 2020 09: 54 New
          -2
          We're kind of talking about bulk
    2. aglet
      aglet 7 September 2020 08: 48 New
      -2
      "And he was noticed more than once for receiving buns from the State Department."
      have you personally noticed and there are facts? or hiley-like? I am personally indifferent to the bulk, from the word at all, the harm from it is much less than from Gref there, or Siluanov, Miller, Sechin. but if you accuse, prove it, provide facts, at least a receipt for receiving buns with a personal signature. at least from Photoshop
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 September 2020 10: 06 New
      0
      Quote: stayer
      Isn't she afraid?

      So the instinct of self-preservation has disappeared. With what speed you take the loot, with such a speed the instinct of self-preservation is destroyed.
  16. Well
    Well done 7 September 2020 07: 33 New
    +2
    reason to reflect on the competence of an official

    Judging by this article, there are practically no competent politicians left in Germany. All in chorus trynd the same mantra.
  17. apro
    apro 7 September 2020 07: 37 New
    +5
    When I was at the training camp in 18, the major physician did not even begin to talk about chemical weapons. About methods of protection. It is useless. Now such recipients can be defined, or defend themselves. And the concentration is scanty for defeat. And he walked obscenely across Skripoli.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 September 2020 10: 11 New
      0
      Quote: apro
      now there are such recipients, whatever you define, you can protect yourself.

      No need to go far, the chemical rain has passed, got into a toxic fog, drank some water from the river, ate some berries from a neighbor's garden, drank some dust, drank fired vodka - but you can't foresee everything.
  18. unhappy
    unhappy 7 September 2020 07: 46 New
    +4
    Someone tell the Minister of Defense that the weapon is what KILL or FIFT!
    Let her see what the victims of chemical weapons look like after the first world war. Shameless, illiterate people in power ...
    1. Mishanya 74
      Mishanya 74 7 September 2020 07: 59 New
      -3
      When you say * chemical weapons * you probably imagine a warehouse filled with barrels, shells, cylinders ..
      Not a small ampoule with a few milligrams of substance
      1. unhappy
        unhappy 7 September 2020 08: 05 New
        +4
        What the police use are not weapons. He coughed, spat - tomorrow he is healthy. Chemical weapons, in a barrel or ampoule, do not care, they must kill. Even if a person survives, he is disabled and the use of chemical weapons is easy to prove. They scream loudly - "I know, but I won't show you!"
        1. Mishanya 74
          Mishanya 74 7 September 2020 08: 58 New
          -2
          What does the police have to do with it?
          Hmm weapons shouldn't be anything ..
          And it doesn't kill by itself ..
          People kill with weapons ...
          The task of chemical weapons is to make the enemy incapable of combat.
          What has been achieved ..
          It seems to be alive, but it seems to be not ..
          What else does?
          1. unhappy
            unhappy 7 September 2020 09: 13 New
            0
            And what? I am trying to convey to you the difference between police means and lethal weapons. Chemical weapons are created as lethal weapons and are used to kill the enemy. If he remains disabled (incapacity for action), then these are private consequences, not a goal.
            1. Mishanya 74
              Mishanya 74 7 September 2020 10: 04 New
              0
              I still do not understand .. what does the police means at all ..
              And yes .. about the fact that * weapons kill and not maim * ..
              Do you know the ratio of the wounded and killed in the war?
              And how many after her crippled without arms without legs ..
              1. unhappy
                unhappy 7 September 2020 10: 18 New
                0
                Chemical weapons are created as lethal weapons and are used to kill the enemy. If he remains disabled (incapacity for action), then these are private consequences, not a goal.

                Didn't you read it or didn't you understand? Weapons are made to kill - that is its function. If someone survived, this is insufficient effectiveness or power of the weapon.
  19. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 7 September 2020 07: 51 New
    +4
    In fact, there is another question here - this citizen clearly goes beyond her competence and directly violates the chain of command, talking about sanctions and SP-2. In principle, it does not have the authority to talk about any sanctions.

    Merkel recently said bluntly not to link the story with Navalny and SP-2.

    PS The campaign looms an ambitious aunt who wants to replace Merkel.
  20. Moskovit
    Moskovit 7 September 2020 07: 56 New
    +4
    A very strange picture is observed in Germany. All officials have already spoken in favor of the novice poisoning theory. At the request of Russia, we hear the indistinct bleating of the head of the German Foreign Ministry that tests are being carried out, we need to request permission from the clinic, ask permission from relatives (!). But all this did not stop Merkel from directly blaming Russia a week ago. In response to Roshal's call to create a joint commission, Navalny's wife is pulled out and hysterically tries to prevent this, spitting on the treatment for some reason.
  21. Mimino
    Mimino 7 September 2020 08: 21 New
    0
    Did anyone really think that a woman could be a competent defense minister?
  22. Operator
    Operator 7 September 2020 08: 25 New
    +1
    She poisoned herself, she made a diagnosis - how is it with her family ties with Mengele?
  23. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 7 September 2020 08: 28 New
    +5
    Such ministers of defense greatly increase the combat effectiveness of the German army. Compared 83 to 2020. I was pleasantly surprised what was left of the Bundeswehr. Another woman in this position and Germany will become the level of the Baltic states.
  24. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 7 September 2020 08: 30 New
    -9
    Among the defense ministers of the countries of the world, which clearly do not differ in professional competence, is also the head of the German military department Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer.
    According to the German official, the Bundeswehr "received evidence of the use of chemical weapons against Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny."
    The official announces what the Bundeswehr physicians gave her. What are the claims? She did not personally investigate the analyzes.
    An even greater reason to doubt the competence of the German Minister of Defense is given by the fact that Ms. Kramp-Karrenbauer actually suggests believing in a certain selectivity of the actions of chemical weapons. It turns out that only one person turned out to be "amazed", who at the same time contacted dozens of different people, including airport employees, plane passengers, and in the end contacted family and friends.
    The author, it, this weapon, can be different, including selective action. For this, it is also being developed in special laboratories. However, cotton brains eat everything
    1. Adam Khomich
      Adam Khomich 7 September 2020 08: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      this weapon can be different, including selective action.

      Where did you get such a brilliant alternative education?
    2. aglet
      aglet 7 September 2020 08: 54 New
      0
      "The author, it, this weapon, can be different, including selective action"
      in principle, yes, you can do that a negro or a Jew will poison, but no white. but so that the bulk will fill up, and Ivanov, no, it's fantastic
  25. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 7 September 2020 08: 31 New
    +3
    As long as the defense of the FRG is in the hands of such "cheated" Frau, Russia can sleep peacefully. From such Frau, or maybe a German minister, a third-sex individual, tomorrow we can hear that the Russian vaccine against coronavirus is made on the basis of Novichok BOV and treats only the elite, who are not against Putin and Co., and the rest are made by zombies)))
  26. rotfuks
    rotfuks 7 September 2020 09: 17 New
    +1
    At one time, many words were said about nepotism and protectionism. In this case, we see both nepotism and protectionism in the German version. Merkel promotes her girlfriends to government posts with the aim of their further political growth. It’s me that the previous German Defense Minister Ursula Gertrude von der Leyen, despite all his failures, now occupies a decent post in European politics. An illustrative example is when Merkel, on her government liner, which is on the balance sheet of the Bundeswehr, could not fly to South America and boarded a passenger plane. And now, in the ministerial chair, another ursula, who has no idea about toxic substances.
  27. spectr
    spectr 7 September 2020 11: 11 New
    0
    Fun. Anyone who leads the "nix" around the world has already reached Germany. IMHO, it looks something like this, but maybe I'm wrong. First, the split of society in Germany and the shutdown of SP-2 (the scandal with Navalny is the very thing, but maybe they will come up with something else if it is not enough). In the absence of cheap energy resources, when not everything is going smoothly in the economy, some enterprises begin to "sink" and are bought up at "bargain prices." And then the new owners will decide for themselves where to buy energy resources. And then there are several "stupid" laws, similar to how with a gas pipe (when one supplier has the right to use no more than 50% of the pipe's resources), and, voila, the new owners dramatically remove these "almost bankrupts" from unprofitability.
    It is clear that not everyone will survive the shake-up. Some of them will finally "gather". Costs. As a result, random people will be thrown out of the "billionaire club" and the economy will begin to stabilize.
  28. musorg
    musorg 7 September 2020 13: 13 New
    0
    After Merkel said such a thing, the brakes of the Ministry of Defense failed!
  29. cheburator
    cheburator 7 September 2020 13: 55 New
    0
    Painted scary and not painted! Stuffed fool!
    We are Russians! God with us!
  30. Thompson
    Thompson 7 September 2020 14: 31 New
    -1
    The Germans, you see, want to win the war with one face of the Minister of Defense.
  31. iouris
    iouris 7 September 2020 18: 52 New
    0
    This (this) defense minister is not like (does not look like) the defense minister of the aggressive NATO bloc. Statement on the use of weapons of mass destruction against one single individual - BSK (bullshit).
  32. razved
    razved 7 September 2020 21: 31 New
    +1
    What kind of competence can we talk about? In Europe, for a long time already, the heads of the Ministry of Defense have been not professional military personnel, but whoever. At the same time, they claim that the Minister of Defense is a political position. The fashion for females at the head of the armies went after reaching a new level of the struggle for gender equality.
    1. rudolff
      rudolff 7 September 2020 22: 01 New
      +2
      Is it different with us? Shoigu, Serdyukov professional military? And Ivanov can only be called a military man with a big stretch, purely by the right to wear military uniforms. Somehow it was forgotten who and who in the Ministry of Defense called "green men".
      1. razved
        razved 7 September 2020 22: 43 New
        +1
        Unfortunately, this fashion has also come down to us. By the way, I remember in the mid-90s, at one of the classes at the school, we discussed the question of whether it is possible to appoint a non-military person as the Minister of Defense
        1. rudolff
          rudolff 8 September 2020 07: 20 New
          +1
          Nothing good about that. Top positions should be held by professionals in their respective fields. And here they are appointed on the basis of loyalty and personal devotion, sometimes just "for feeding." And this applies not only to MO.
  33. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 7 September 2020 23: 30 New
    +1
    The Minister of Defense of Germany spoke,
    and in the picture of the accountant some kind
    and in the state "I have VAT tomorrow, leave me alone."
  34. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 7 September 2020 23: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: rotfuks
    Ursula Gertrude von der Leyen

    So she's also Gertrude, too?
    Thank God that Brunhilde is not any.

    Although it’s sickening to live with such a name, it’s toiling.
    "In general, I'm sorry for her, she's an unfortunate woman,"
    as Zheglov said.

    They recruited aunts into politics, to surprise people.
    And we have Masha Zakharova - then her eyes swell, rolls out,
    then in an intrauterine voice he will promise heavenly punishment,
    then he will sing and dance neither to the village nor to the city.
    1. Nikolai Korovin
      Nikolai Korovin 8 September 2020 03: 04 New
      +1
      Comparison of Maria Zakharova and, say, Jane Psaki is not in favor of Psaki. For Zakharova, all the same, ends meet, she reports quite logically. Maybe not everyone likes it, but what can you do ... For taste, for color, as you know, there is no comrade. As for, for example, the same Jenny, she gave out things that were completely anecdotal - such as a request from a congresswoman of African American descent (forgot her surname) at the suggestion of Vovan and Lexus about the situation in Limpopo, where the pro-Russian Aibolit overthrew the legally elected Barmaley. I would like to repeat after the classic: "Here is evil worthy fruits!" - although these are just the fruits of the Bologna system.
  35. Nikolai Korovin
    Nikolai Korovin 8 September 2020 02: 56 New
    +1
    They at least recalled the use of the morally outdated and probably already somewhat outdated Aum Shinrikye sarin in the Tokyo subway. The bodies were carried out in dozens. It is ridiculous to read passages about insidious Russia, which constantly uses non-killing combat weapons, which can be used to smear on door handles.
    Previously, such things were called the Russian word "duck" and were only slightly mentioned as not deserving serious attention. Now these "fakes" are widely commented on everywhere quite seriously, powdering the brains of the electorate.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 8 September 2020 07: 06 New
      +1
      Nikolay Korovin (Nikolay)
      Today, 02: 56
      NEW
      +1
      They at least recalled the use of the morally outdated and probably already somewhat outdated Aum Shinrikye sarin in the Tokyo subway. The bodies were carried out in dozens. It's funny to read passages about insidious Russia, which constantly uses non-killing combat weapons, which can be used to smear on door handlesand.
      Previously, such things were called the Russian word "duck" and were only slightly mentioned as not deserving serious attention. Now these "fakes" are widely commented on everywhere quite seriously, powdering the brains of the electorate.
      The stupidity of the arrogant just goes off scale, and - "The further into the forest, the more angry the partisans!" Wild ignorance, bordering on the prehistoric period of our era. However, they do not even hide it! And how long ago did they start going to the toilet like civilized people, and not from the balcony or into the open (and again, not always open laughing ) window. Any Polynesian tribe without an Internet knows more than the enlightened)) Europa.
  36. NF68
    NF68 8 September 2020 16: 35 New
    0
    What is the competence here? That she tells her something.
  37. Andobor
    Andobor 11 September 2020 15: 32 New
    0
    The German elite is raised by Washington, and they are appointed,
    the flow is different, there stupid loot works.
  38. fif21
    fif21 11 September 2020 15: 45 New
    0
    Now I understand why German men prioritize brothels! wassat I don’t know how to use cosmetics, but I don’t want cheap Russian gas, I want an expensive mattress fool