Fighters of the fifth generation Su-57 will be hidden under invisible covers

Russian fighters of the fifth generation Su-57 will receive special covers that completely hide the aircraft from electronic reconnaissance means and protect them from bad weather. Deliveries are scheduled to begin in 2021. "News" with reference to the Ministry of Defense and the Defense Industry Complex.

As the newspaper writes, the covers for the Su-57 will be made of polymers that reflect the radar signal. A set of a dozen separate covers will be supplied for each aircraft - for wheels, for the lower, central and rear fuselage, wings, cockpit, nozzle, stabilizers, air intakes and other parts of the structure. Deliveries are planned to begin in 2021, in the period 2021 - 2022, eight sets will be produced and delivered, then their number will increase. Preliminary deliveries of covers will be carried out until 2028.

Besides the fact that the new covers will shelter aircraft from reconnaissance means, they will also protect fighters from bad weather well. Considering that the latest fighters have antennas, sensors, optical and electronic systems located on the wings and fuselage, such protection will come in handy, saving coverage and electronics.

New covers will completely hide the outline of the aircraft, making it impossible to identify them on satellite and aviation pictures, as well as hiding from electronic reconnaissance equipment while parking on the ground outside protected hangars.

Comments

[snake]

Quote: Temples

Why hide what is not?

Don't you understand? They will bring a group of skeptics to an empty airfield and say: here, they say, those hundreds of Su-57s that we promised to launch into series. And the fact that they are not visible, so they are under invisible covers ...
Wangyu the same covers for Armata and Boomerang. A very handy thing for effective managers.
In the meantime, they are sawing in the old fashioned way:
Serdyukov estimated the debts of the creator of SSJ and MiGs at more than half a trillion.
https://www.rbc.ru/business/31/08/2020/5f468cad9a7947840b4377e6?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

[Yngvar]

Serdyukov did not appreciate it, but regretted that he had not stolen this half-trillion!

[Temples]

Following the airplane covers they will sew
Invisible wallets.

I put a rollback in it for making another rubbish for the army and no one sees.

[halpat]

Quote: Temples

Why hide what is not?


Aaaaaaa

We have them. but they are hidden under covers by invisible ones!

And on the contrary it seemed to me. The inspection arrives at the unit. Why are the planes standing open? .. What are you ... and further untranslatable Russian folklore
- Comrade commander, so we have covers ... invisible

In general, "they wanted to reward, and then decided not to punish."

[figwam]

Quote: Temples

Why hide what is not?

For those who are not in the subject, the production schedule for the Su-57, Su-35S, Su-35, from 2024 the Su-57, 12 units per year.

[snake]

Quote: figvam

Quote: Temples

Why hide what is not?

For those who are not in the subject, the production schedule for the Su-57, Su-35S, Su-35, from 2024 the Su-57, 12 units per year.

Right now, in the 24th year, fly in a time machine, and check the entot schedule ...

[Cyril G ...]

Su-35 red for export, blue for our air force?

[figwam]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Su-35 red for export, blue for our air force?

Yes ...

[NordUral]

We are definitely not in the subject, not like some.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: We are for our

An invisible plane under an invisible cover ...
It would seem, what does Ukraine have to do with it?

And what really has to do with Ukraine? About the stealth of the Su-57 in the quote below.

“Until recently, the United States ridiculed the Russian Su-57, arguing that it could not qualify for the stealth title, however, given the fact that the Russian fighter jet flew several thousand kilometers without hindrance directly over the American military bases in Iraq and Syria, it becomes it is quite obvious that we are really talking about an "invisible" aircraft that successfully clicked Washington on the nose, "the specialist notes.

According to some reports, in 2020 Russia also plans to send the Su-57 fighter to Syria for the next testing phase - this time for conducting air patrols, but at the moment no statements have been made about this.

https://avia.pro/news/rossiyskiy-su-57-nezamechennym-proletel-nad-shestyu-amerkianskimi-voennymi-bazami-v-irake-i

[RMT]

We flew over Iraq without coordinating the route and time of flight with the Iraqi authorities? Are you kidding?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: RMT

We flew over Iraq without coordinating the route and time of flight with the Iraqi authorities? Are you kidding?

No, I'm not kidding. The sky of Iraq is a gateway where American, Turkish, Israeli aviation flies without the approval of the Iraqi authorities.

[RMT]

Talking about the route of the Su-57 flying to Syria. If the Iraqis knew, the Americans knew too. And the Iraqis knew.

[voyaka uh]

Never link to avia.pro.
They are the creators of fakes. Namely, not the distributors of fakes, but their inventors.

[KCA]

FSE, I will quit drinking, smoking and basta, I will go in for sports, or rather believe exclusively Jewish and mattress sites, FSE the rest are fake, especially fake any messages from any other sites with BV

[voyaka uh]

Not. Explicit fakes are a rather rare thing.
Usually, they repost messages from other agencies
with distortion or gag. But the air-pro comes up with
developments.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Yes, invisible cases are cool! Only the Invisibility Man and the Invisibility Cloak are cooler than them! Is this April Fools' news? Or just checking the audience for adequacy?

[muham]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

Yes, invisible cases are cool! Only the Invisibility Man and the Invisibility Cloak are cooler than them! Is this April Fools' news? Or just checking the audience for adequacy?

Wait, what about the invisible technician? What about the rest of the staff? Invisible dogs around the perimeter? Invisible towers and so on, etc.

[Viktor Sergeev]

The invisible mind in the invisible brain seemed to have something to do with the mind.
Do not be sharp, well, it does not suit you.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: We are for our

An invisible plane under an invisible cover ...
It would seem, what does Ukraine have to do with it?

Ukraine demonstrates the power of Ukrainian aviation and astronautics.

On August 31, in Kiev, representatives of the local Svidomo community decided in a special way to demonstrate to the world the full power of Ukrainian aviation and astronautics.

To this end, from the Maidan of Nezalezhnosti in a solemn and patriotic atmosphere, the largest ever yellow-blocked trident, assembled from balloons, was launched into the sky.

At first, the structure rose above the surface and floated towards neighboring buildings. However, after someone triumphantly shouted "to Moscow!", The inflatable mega-trident somehow got upset, began to lose its shape and soon fell quietly.

https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/08/31/zapushchennyy-v-kieve-trizub-iz-vozdushnyh-sharov-ne-zahotel-letet-na-moskvu

[Wwk7260]

Nonsense, such resins (in the event that they are built in the declared units with acceptable performance characteristics, which is in great doubt) should be based on airfields with protected hangars-bunkers.

[Orange bigg]

Doubt away.

According to the latest data, workshop No. 45 has undergone modernization for mass production of serial Su-57s, the production of this machine is very complex and the Ministry of Defense makes very high demands on assembly and production culture. A fresh photo of the assembly of the second car was published in the June issue of the newspaper Krylya Sovetov.

https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5f20a49cf01f506fcb80c60b/vtoroi-seriinyi-su57-dlia-vks-pochti-gotov-5f249bb9d6b2bc74caa012c0

[kit88]

Quote: Wwk7260

Some kind of nonsense,

So one does not interfere with the other, but complements, if special covers are supplied with the aircraft.
In real life, even in the presence of hangars, it still happens that the planes remain in the open air - they leave them at the central locks, at the gas room in the TEC, at a foreign airfield ... Then the covers will come in handy so that the entire office would not be accidentally set on fire.

[Cyril G ...]

preventing them from being identified on satellite and aeronautical images,

Maybe we should still provide the Air Force with frame-shield hangars?

Although, in principle, not only we are like that ..

Tanks are not afraid of dirt! (from.)

[tralflot1832]

Is this Norway? Is it strange that it is in the open air? All these problems with the stealth coating are lies. Jamshut in the ankle boots on the fuselage, then everything is fine with the coating. Or it’s impossible according to the rules of snow maintenance. . And maybe they talked about cosmic prices for a broom.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: tralflot1832

Is this Norway?

Alaska, Elmendorf hike

Quote: tralflot1832

All these problems with the stealth coating are lies. Jamshut in the ankle boots on the fuselage means everything is fine with the coating.

No, they just hammered the bolt ..

Quote: tralflot1832

Or maybe they talked about the cosmic prices for a broom.

This is more realistic

[tralflot1832]

He served as a conscript in the GSVG. Aerodromes were called up all with hangars. Start on some straight from the hangar with a small turn to take off. We flew to Tver on DMB
I was struck by the even rows of planes on takeoff, I don't want a bomb.

[Cyril G ...]

So everything is correct, the GSVG had the best airfield network, Ukraine and Belarus had a little worse. We have adequate airfields with shelters, etc. remained only in the Far East and against China.

[tralflot1832]

With Finland there was one exactly with hangars, from the road you can see, near Kem.

[Charik]

Maybe it's in Alaska

[Cyril G ...]

I did not understand, judging by the number of cons to my opinion about at least some hangars, even if it is frame-panel for the Air Force, is there a gang of hamsters who do not understand that work on airplanes in the Air Force is usually carried out in any weather in the open air? Maybe all the same people need to be protected?

You have to understand that the 60th generation fighters, built in the 4s, did not go into the old hangars. Well, we could not correctly think about the future of aviation THEN.

[Boris Chernikov]

namely, hangars need to be built, hangars)

[Mountain shooter]

The polymers are likely to absorb rather than reflect radio waves. In ik, probably, they also do not "shine" ... there a high reflection is better ... very correct, such an expensive technique should be protected.

[Kart]

Moreover, the hangar as such in terms of camouflage is much worse simply because it is larger.
And it is clear that they are not always there.

[KCA]

What are you talking about? I am not strong in organic chemistry, but polymers that absorb electromagnetic radiation are beyond my understanding, as well as reflecting it, polymers are radio-transparent, compounds from hydrocarbons with a complex molecular structure, well, they do not affect radio emission, they can absorb radiation, from a to d, polyethylene is even better than lead, but radio frequencies are niv as, in itself, the concept of a polymer is ambiguous, it is possible to insert metal molecules into polyethylene, but what's the point?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: KCA

I am not strong in organic chemistry, but polymers that absorb electromagnetic radiation are beyond my understanding,

Radio-absorbing fillers ... Thin fibers of ferromagnets, for example ...

[KCA]

So this is not a polymer, ferromagnet molecules are not embedded in polymer molecules, and fibers can be applied with a brush, or a cat can be held along the board, not quite radio-absorbing, but you will get a composite coating with wool

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: KCA

So this is not a polymer, ferromagnet molecules are not embedded in polymer molecules, and fibers can be applied with a brush, or a cat can be held along the board, not quite

Filled polymer, isn't it a polymer? Radiopaque coatings and paints all work like this. The main thing there is the material and the size of the fibers. Mixtures of these fibers or particles. can be in several layers with different fillers. Sprayed layers on a polymer base.

[KCA]

A polymer is a polymer, a filler is a filler, fibers do not have to be included in a polymer coating, you can simply apply and paint on the body, a polymer is a molecule, a large one, made of very long connections, and it is in there that a ferromagnet is inserted into a PPC, a task for a Nobel a minimum premium, and most likely disappear from the radar until the end of life

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: KCA

A polymer is a polymer, a filler is a filler, fibers do not have to be included in a polymer coating, you can just apply to the body

Well, you are wrong. It is possible to embed ferromagnet molecules into polymer chains ... but WHY? In short, the argument is pointless. Like any dispute about terminology ...

[KCA]

Here I agree, I am not an expert in materials science, I am presenting purely my thoughts, which are based on general erudition, not supported by fundamental knowledge

[tikhonov66]

I am not strong in organic chemistry, but polymers that absorb electromagnetic radiation are beyond my understanding,
- это не страшно - википедия в помощщ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AD%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%8F%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%8B

[Livonetc]

Blinded mom to Sushka
Invisible buns.
More accessories nice and different!

[7,62x54]

And I cannot understand why there are no planes in the troops. They are, but under the covers.

[prior]

At such a price, an aircraft stuffed with electronics is worthy of standing in a warm ventilated hangar.
Or is there no money for maintenance either ?!

[Cyril G ...]

So the Americans do not either .. It was not for nothing that I posted a photo of clearing snow from the Raptor.
The only cars they had in "warm ventilated hangar" F-117 and B-2, but a few years ago the F-117, which were already in reserve and still in "warm ventilated hangar" were removed from the hangar storage.

[Maikcg]

So the Americans have 2,5 airfields in Alaska, where they fly once a year for exercises, everything else sunbathes comfortably in the sun at +30 and above. And with our weather ... yes, the trees fell, it is not necessary to make superangars, but in Khmeimim they figured out in the end.

And much better for secrecy from space reconnaissance, whether there is a fighter in the hangar or not.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: MaikCG

So the Americans have 2,5 airfields in Alaska, where they fly once a year for exercises,

Raptors sit constantly on Elmendorf ...

Quote: MaikCG

in Khmeimim they figured it out in the end.

They thought for a long time. Very

Quote: MaikCG

And much better for secrecy from space reconnaissance, whether there is a fighter in the hangar or not.

Right

[Maikcg]

Elmendorf is a natural resort by Russian standards

[Dikson]

We have snow for half a year in our country .. and instead of normal hangars in parking lots we design invisible cranes .. So we will win! In general, you don't need to invent anything - you would ask any warrant officer - he would easily tell scientists how many things stored in warehouses and in military units become invisible not only from spy satellites, but even with the naked eye of the higher command. ...

[Viktor Sergeev]

Hangar is an invitation to the enemy to strike. Hangar - a shelter from bad weather in peacetime.

[Cyril G ...]

A lightweight frame-panel hangar is quite an adequate solution in terms of the daily activities of the Air Force and in terms of daily camouflage.

[Maikcg]

And the airfield itself does not mean an invitation to the enemy to strike? Airfield - Runway in Peacetime?

[Viktor Sergeev]

It may be an invitation, but usually this invitation is covered by a powerful air defense grouping, plus a damaged strip is repaired very quickly, in tens of minutes, by replacing elements.

[Maikcg]

Will peacefully bomb the runway without touching the planes standing nearby? ))

[Nestor]

Foreigners say that it is not a stealth plane, so the covers do not need to be removed!

[A. Privalov]

Covers are a good thing.
The truth is, until the nozzles are cool, the use of covers will be somewhat problematic.
At a height of almost 5 meters, throw a blanket: two pieces of about 10 meters each on the front and back of the fuselage, and covers on the wings almost 7 meters each, I see, will not be easy either.
Do you need additional staff?
Before takeoff, all this will have to be removed neatly and quickly.
And sprinkled with snow, but frosty fry, and plastic in the cold, frankly, not very ...
Then, to put the pieces so hefty, but sometimes in the wind and in the rain it can carry ...
And store it where while the plane is flying somewhere?
There are many questions. Let's see how this stray will take root in the active parts.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: A. Privalov

There are many questions. Let's see how this stray will take root in the active parts.

It will not take root from the word in any way ...
It is rather an attempt by competitors to bite off a piece from hangar builders. Deliveries of these hangars have recently begun

[Viktor Sergeev]

What do hangars have to do with covers? The cover serves for camouflage on field airfields or dispersed aircraft, hangar for peacetime, protection from precipitation.

[Dikson]

With the covers, all sorts of other funny things are possible .. - in our parking lot of the duty couple, the sentries got into the habit of sleeping in the engine nozzle .. the breeder comes - there is no sentry ... and he, the dog, climbed into the nozzle under the cover and sleeps there ..

[Radical]

Fighters of the fifth generation Su-57 will be hidden under invisible covers

The further, the ... sadder.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Well, this is a psychiatrist.

[moreman78]

Yes, whatever they can think of, just not to build hangars!

[Viktor Sergeev]

I didn’t understand one thing, how will the reflective cover hide the plane?

[Maikcg]

Will pretend to be inflatable

[Tagan]

Quote: We are for our

An invisible plane under an invisible cover ...
It would seem, what does Ukraine have to do with it?

Do you also need covers there? Like, shob boulo?

[Herman 4223]

If the cover reflects radio waves, then it is more visible than the other way around. I hope the engineers didn't confuse anything when designing.

[Xenofont]

The author clearly did not delve into what he writes. If the covers, as he put it, reflect the radio signal, then what's the point?

[Radical]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Well, this is a psychiatrist.

No, those who invent all sorts of garbage, just to saw it, and not do it as it should actually be, rather not to a psychiatrist, but to the prosecutor, and other law enforcement officials.

[Boris Chernikov]

maybe we will build hangars all the same?

[AML]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

maybe we will build hangars all the same?

Sarcasm / on If every plane is in the hangar then no taiga will be enough :) Sarcasm / off

[Charik]

I remember in my childhood there was a song - I will wear an invisible hat on .......

[Charik]

where would you buy such a cover on a typewriter or paint like on a Su57 or a submarine: do not offer an anti-hydroacoustic coating

[_Ugene_]

covers for the Su-57 will be made of polymers that reflect the radar signal.

so let them fly in them, the problem of stealth is solved

[Senka naughty]

Wow, the kids are frolicking, whose children are in the comments?

[U-58]

Why is it stupid to build a concrete "garage"?
He will hide from enemy eyes and from bad weather.
Again, there is no need to dress and undress the plane, scratching delicate optics every time and wasting time and effort.
Misunderstandings .....

[kytx]

Apparently yes
It is expensive to bury all airfields with hangars, to drag the hangar from place to place is also long and expensive, or even simply impossible.
and this is just a cover, a rag, just not made of tarpaulin, but newer material.
there is no pathos or "breakthrough" in the article.
Well, we just created a special cover for the new aircraft, although it would be better to bring the engine to the 2nd stage.
As for the mass scale, the Americans riveted 200 raptors, the plane is so good, but nowhere is it really used.

[kytx]

Well, yes.
you can see how they are placed in Elizovo, for example.
some in hangars, some between artificial hills (they cover the top with a cover and mask), some in the open ..
And there are all sorts of strategists and fighters and anti-submarine, and there is snow, Mama don't worry.
Nothing, somehow they fly.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: kytx

you can see how they are placed in Elizovo, for example.
some in hangars, some between artificial hills (they cover the top with a cover and mask), some in the open ..

I am not very sure that the MiG-31, let alone the Il-38, will fit into local hangars, except for the TEC. For at least a quarter of a century that I served in Kamchatka, I never remember a MiG-31 in a hangar.

[yfast]

For those who are not in the subject, the production schedule for the Su-57, Su-35S, Su-35, from 2024 the Su-57, 12 units per year.

Half of the pickers will be thrown onto the street in early 2021? Aircraft will be assembled 2 times less.
And then it will turn out like with Russian ventilators - they will pick it up from the street.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: yfast

Half of the pickers will be thrown onto the street in early 2021?

Just look how many Su-35s are in the order. Su-35 and Su-57 do exactly what Komsomolsk does. And in the 20th year, the delivery of import orders, which have been built since 2019 ..

[yfast]

Quote: voyaka uh

But the air-pro comes up with events.

Why should they? By the way, the F-35 carries such a cover with it, but they say that it is a bad plane.

[Radical]

Quote: AML

Quote: Boris Chernikov

maybe we will build hangars all the same?

Sarcasm / on If every plane is in the hangar then no taiga will be enough :) Sarcasm / off

The sarcasm didn't go away.

[Radical]

Quote: kytx

Apparently yes
It is expensive to bury all airfields with hangars, to drag the hangar from place to place is also long and expensive, or even simply impossible.
and this is just a cover, a rag, just not made of tarpaulin, but newer material.
there is no pathos or "breakthrough" in the article.
Well, we just created a special cover for the new aircraft, although it would be better to bring the engine to the 2nd stage.
As for the mass scale, the Americans riveted 200 raptors, the plane is so good, but nowhere is it really used.

Eight balls - like in Russian billiards! Your generation has done everything to make this issue a problem for the country!