KTRV received permission to manufacture a new promising torpedo

The Tactical Missile Armament Corporation (KTRV) received permission to start serial production of a new promising torpedo and a corrected aerial bomb. About this in an interview with RIA News said the general director of the corporation Boris Obnosov.

Answering the relevant question, Obnosov explained that the corporation is ready for the serial production of a new torpedo and an aerial bomb, permission for this has already been received.

Yes. We are ready for serial production

he replied.

In mid-February of this year, the general director of KTRV announced that state tests of the latest promising torpedo and a corrected 250-kilogram bombs were completed. At the same time, he said that documents were being drawn up for the torpedo and aerial bomb. At the same time, he did not voice the name of the torpedo, since work on it will still be carried out.

According to Obnosov, the corporation is engaged in a wide range of missile weapons, which includes aviation, land and sea themes. He stressed that during 2020 it is planned to complete three topics on air-to-air missiles, on corrected air bombs of 1500 and 500 kg, on air-to-surface products and several more projects.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

Even further, more precisely, even faster. So we will win!

[Pessimist22]

Who are we fighting with?

[Thrifty]

Pessimist 22 - so far there is no one, but must be ready for war! The lag in torpedoes from the foe along the way was leveled! She would now be in production and hectares of warships!

[mat-vey]

Quote: Thrifty

-not with anyone yet

Isn't there a war in Syria, or do they manage without bombs?

[venik]

Quote: Pessimist22

Who are we fighting with?

========
Haven't you guessed? This seems to be clear to EVERYONE !!!
They are not shooting yet ...... But the Opponent has already "drawn"! Moreover, the enemy is SPECIFIC and UNRACCIBLE !!!

[NEXUS]

Quote: venik

But the Opponent has already "drawn"! Moreover, the enemy is SPECIFIC and UNRACCIBLE !!!

Why, before that, the enemy shuffled under the sofa? Or are we with them, as partners like to wag in the Kremlin?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Pessimist22

Who are we fighting with?

With all the enemies of our country.

[lucul]

Who are we fighting with?

Well, how many groans were that we have antediluvian torpedoes))))

[Fizik M]

Quote: lucul

and how many groans were that we have antediluvian torpedoes))))

against the background of Mk48mod7 (2006) it looks very pale
and taking into account the absence of TU - full popc

[poquello]

Quote: Fizik M

Quote: lucul

and how many groans were that we have antediluvian torpedoes))))

against the background of Mk48mod7 (2006) it looks very pale
and taking into account the absence of TU - full popc

what can you see?

[Fizik M]

Quote: poquello

what can you see?

and visible and familiar

[poquello]

Quote: Fizik M

Quote: poquello

what can you see?

and visible and familiar

how?
"At the same time, he did not announce the name of the torpedo, since work on it will still be carried out."
at the same time, pictures on VO are often found where they are - they are molded from there, while the material itself is copied

[Fizik M]

Quote: poquello

how?

familiar - professional
but where the "guts" Mk48 mod7 saw - I will not write here

Quote: poquello

pictures on VO are often found where they are molded from there,

photo of the real "Ichthyosaurus"

[businessv]

Quote: Pessimist22

Who are we fighting with?

With pessimists!

[Fizik M]

Quote: businessv

With pessimists!

the main thing is not to break the trampoline from diligence

[businessv]

Quote: Fizik M

the main thing is not to break the trampoline from diligence

I see that you are very partial to this sports equipment. Through the post you mention. Go, jump, get rid of complexes - you can see it on the square!

[Fizik M]

Quote: businessv

I look,

monsieur, YOU are not watching, and NOT downloading
and think

I just don’t digest horses

[Vadivak]

Quote: Pessimist22

Who are we fighting with?

Si vis pacem, bellum for

[Piramidon]

A very long time ago, one smart man said: "Si vis pacem, para bellum" - "if you want peace, prepare for war."

[poquello]

Quote: Piramidon

A very long time ago, one smart man said: "Si vis pacem, para bellum" - "if you want peace, prepare for war."

a little later
"Having said the magic word" Dakhusim ", the Russian skier won the Olympics."

[PSih2097]

Quote: Piramidon

A very long time ago, one smart man said: "Si vis pacem, para bellum" - "if you want peace, prepare for war."

and two other smart people put the hallmarks - "Ultima ratio regum" and "Ultima ratio regis" - after all, the rocket troops are a descendant of the artillery troops ...

[APASUS]

Quote: Pessimist22

Who are we fighting with?

Under the hot sun, under the blind night
We had to go through a lot
We are peaceful people, but our armored train
Standing on the siding!

[iouris]

Quote: Mavrikiy

So win!

Let's start with ourselves. We will defeat laziness, poverty, illiteracy, lack of culture! Hooray!

[Avior]

Let's hit the off-road and bureaucratic rally!

Inspired by something

[Fizik M]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Even further, more precisely, even faster. So we will win!

Tell me, do they feed YOU in "holgino"?
otherwise you get very miserable and feeble propaganda

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Fizik M

Tell me, do they feed YOU in "holgino"?
otherwise you get very miserable and feeble propaganda

Listen, give me a recommendation. And then I really want to eat, and learn something, you yourself need to say. Only "hide your fangs, virva" (Leva Zadov).

[Fizik M]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Listen, give a recommendation

YOU are better off chewing than talking
PM

and as for the "Olginsky and Co", then I simply despise them (taking into account the fact that I POOR their owners (with Nikoloyamskaya))

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Fizik M

and as for the "Olginsky and Co", then I simply despise them (taking into account the fact that I POUR their owners (from Nikoloyamskaya))

Probably tolerant, so you run without pants, with a belt in your hands?

[Fizik M]

Quote: Mavrikiy

tolerant, so no pants

Monsieur, keep YOUR oyster tendencies with you

Quote: Mavrikiy

running

no, I go there (to Nikoloyamskaya) once
one spanking was enough for them

[businessv]

Quote: Fizik M

Tell me, do they feed YOU in "holgino"?

What does THAT have to do with the article, colleague?

[Fizik M]

Quote: businessv

What does THAT have to do with the article, colleague?

stoned hamsters tearing trampolines - definitely no

[businessv]

Quote: Fizik M

stubborn tearing of trampolines by hamsters - definitely not

Thank you for another pointless post, now I know with whom you should not start polemics.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: businessv

now I know with whom I should not start polemics.

Vadim, you were lucky enough to run into a person widely known in narrow circles, who through the network gained fame as the main naval freak.

[Fizik M]

Monsieur Paranoid50, nickname YOU have chosen a good one accurate and correct Make yourself an enema - maybe it will feel better

[tralflot1832]

And this is a country with an economy torn to shreds, with a drop in production due to covid. Our people know how to keep secrets. The old school is felt. And there will still be!

[venik]

Quote: tralflot1832

.And the roofing felts will still be!

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It will be, it will be !!! The "Naglo-Saxons" cannot comprehend an elementary thing in any way: The stronger we are "pressed" .... The stronger we become !!! And in this regard, we are somehow very different from many other peoples!

[tralflot1832]

The most interesting thing is that the people themselves are not bad, especially the Scots, but politicians are something. How it turns out, well, they can't eat straight until they bark in our direction. The Russians are harnessing for a long time, but they'll take everything.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: tralflot1832

The most interesting thing is that the people themselves are not bad especially the Scots

The same thoughts visit. Especially when I watch snooker competitions.

[tralflot1832]

When Rotor passed Manchester, they supported us with us!

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: tralflot1832

When Rotor passed Manchester, they supported us with us!

I'm rooting for Ronnie O'Sullivan

[tralflot1832]

I heard a "funny" guy. When I was in Scotland on a fisherman for six months, snooker was the second after football. 25 years have already passed. It was interesting. Especially when the strongest played this show, I remember my state.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: tralflot1832

Heard a "funny" guy.

Nickname "Rocket". On August 16, at the age of 44, he became a six-time world champion. Pleased the "fans".

[tralflot1832]

In the 90th I accidentally saw the game of Stephen Hendry and became his fan. Fortunately, I was hanging around England for 3 years. I remember Roni when he was still young, there was no authority for him.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: tralflot1832

In the 90th I accidentally saw the game of Stephen Hendry and became his fan.

Stephen Hendry is now a veteran. From 19 to 22 August he took part in the World Snooker Championship among veterans. Lost to Ronnie O'Sullivan's friend Jimmy White.

Fortunately, I hung around England for 3 years.

Lucky you.

[Omskgasmyas]

And I'm a longtime fan of jolly fat John Higgins.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Omskgazmyas

And I'm a longtime fan of jolly fat John Higgins.

There are many good masters among the players of Misty Albion. John Higgins is one of them.

[Vladimir_6]

Victor, this video is for you

[Piramidon]

Quote: tralflot1832

The most interesting thing is that the people themselves are not bad especially the Scots

The Scots and the Irish themselves have had enough of the impudence.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Piramidon

The Scots and the Irish themselves have had enough of the impudence.

Have had enough - that's putting it mildly.
"The war in Ireland was the first colonial war of the English Republic. In its brutality it surpassed anything that Ireland has experienced in its entire long-suffering history."
"The British killed more than half of the Irish in ten years
Great Britain celebrates the birthday of the monarch every year. Elizabeth II herself was born on April 21, but in July they traditionally honor not a person, but a living symbol of the state. Many speeches were given, including the Queen's commitment to the values ​​of freedom and dignity throughout the world. So I wanted to remind Baba Liza how all this was embodied by her predecessors. For example, regarding the unfortunate Irish.
“Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and roast their feet or hands, which was a form of punishment. They were burned alive and their heads impaled on lances in the market as a warning to the rest of the captives. "
Do you think Canadian historian John Martin writes about the atrocities of the African trade? Nothing like this! This is how the Irish white slaves were treated.
http://xexe.club/128430-kak-anglichane-irlandcev-unichtozhali-genocid-po-angliyski.html

[Fizik M]

Quote: tralflot1832

And this is a country with an economy torn to shreds, with a drop in production due to covid. Our people know how to keep secrets. The old school is felt. And there will still be!

let YOU and your ACHINEA go somewhere to the State Duma, - there and broadcast (with a sign and with "armorFichka")

[Grandfather]

torpedoes we have "fakovye", everyone admits this (except for "sofas"), work is endless ...

[Fizik M]

Quote: Dead Day

torpedoes we have "fakovye", everyone admits this (except for "sofas")

well, objectively you need to look at the details
the new generation ("Physicist-1", "Ichthyosaur", "Packet") has a very high interference immunity (this was problem # 1 of our previous torpedoes)
Only we have AT working, but this is the merit of people who have already departed, and not the current "managers", so in this matter we are already bypassed

[Grandfather]

Quote: Fizik M

well, objectively you need to look at the details

Dear UDAV KAA-details ... at the root look.

[Boa kaa]

(KTRV) received permission to start serial production of a new promising torpedo and corrected aerial bomb.

There are only two conclusions here:
1.either the new torpedo uses jet propulsion,
2.or with torpedo production at Dagdizel, everything is so bad that the missilemen are forced to do this ...
I would like to be mistaken, but latently another little thought emerges: is it possible that someone with a mighty hand redirects the financial flow into the pockets of the right people? (And maybe relatives? And what, now everything can be ...)

[Boratsagdiev]

These may be options for aviation (three hundred).
Or maybe they still decided something with the old physicists and the cases, which is not enough.

[d4rkmesa]

"or with torpedo production at Dagdizel everything is so bad that the missilemen are forced to do this ..."
Or Dagdizel is a part of KTRV, your Cap.
"and not someone with a mighty hand redirects the financial flow into the pockets of the right people?"
There were attempts, but now they seem to have fought back.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: d4rkmesa

Or Dagdizel is a part of KTRV, your Cap.

At one time I missed (due to illness) information about the entry of the entire torpedo pool into the KTRV. Therefore, he mistakenly believed that Gidropribor and Dagdizel "in free swimming and without a collar" were still bickering among themselves for government orders. I was wrong.
I knew that Shkval was sculpting KTRV, that's why I assumed that Shkval-2 was on the way, which was also talked about on the sidelines.
And the fact that UET-1 went to the assembly line, and with the advent of VDPM, it will be possible to bring all USET-80 to an acceptable form - is good news. It remains to resolve the issue with AB, at least on the basis of graphene elements, then ETs will again take their place in the sub-melt.

[Fizik M]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Knew that Flurry sculpted KTRV

then he was not there yet
even "Region" has just COMPLETED this development

[Fizik M]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Gidropribor and Dagdizel "in free float and without a collar" are still squabbling among themselves for government orders

squabble
relations there are complicated

[Grandfather]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

I missed it at one time (due to illness)

hurt-set aside!

[Fizik M]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

with the advent of the PDPM, it will be possible to bring all USET-80 to an acceptable form

there is no new head for USET, there are a number of serious questions about Kant

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Fizik M

, according to "Kant" there are a number of serious questions

I realized this when I read your post about this on the forum ...
I have a question: is it impossible to pair the "head" of UET-1 with the "body" of USET-80 during the landing of the BPMM on it?
What's the zatorch? - money, brains, obstacles, fundamentally impossible ???

[Fizik M]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

I have a question: is it impossible to pair the "head" of UET-1 with the "body" of USET-80 during the landing of the BPMM on it?
What's the zatorch? - money, brains, obstacles, fundamentally impossible ???

in my articles it was written
initially (2002-2003) it was intended this way (USET + head of UGST), and technically it was the most correct ...
but "legally" - the developer of USET "Gidropribor" stated that he would never agree on such works, acc. - "new product" (its DD, under its decimal)

[Fizik M]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

with the USET-80 "body" during the landing of the VPPM on it?

according to USET there were two real and worthy versions of modern
- "new Ceramics" (and a very big mistake was that it was lost, because it was possible to simply replace the cassettes in the "heads" of torpedoes in the fleets to dramatically increase its combat capabilities)
- "Trumpet" by D.P. Frolov (this equipment generally has record ranges among all SSNs (all countries))
Frolov died in April of this year

so that the Navy remains "eat what they give" - ​​a copy "on the domestic base" SSN American torpedo Mk46mod1 1961. (moreover, there is information about the delivery to one of the NATO countries of SSN hardware modules identical to those on the torpedoes of the Russian Navy)

[Fizik M]

see https://mina030.livejournal.com/16252.html

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

There are only two conclusions here:
1.either the new torpedo uses jet propulsion,
2.or with torpedo production at Dagdizel, everything is so bad that the missilemen are forced to do this ...

KTRV - the head organization for the IGO
hydraulic device under them, see https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2700008
specifically for this torpedo - "Ichthyosaurus" passed State tests
https://mina030.livejournal.com/16252.html

something on the "background of the issue"
https://vpk.name/news/141623_poluchit_li_flot_ihtiozavr.html

[Orange bigg]

This is just an assumption about the Ichthyosaurus. Most likely Obnosov meant the Case torpedo. It is really promising. And is a new version of the Physicist torpedo.

The newest nuclear-powered strategic and multipurpose submarines of the Borey and Yasen projects will receive new torpedoes. Boris Obnosov, head of the Tactical Missile Armament Corporation, says that "state tests of pilot prototypes of promising products" have been completed.

According to some reports, "Case" has even more advanced characteristics. According to experts, the new domestic torpedo is not only quieter and faster, but also more long-range. Externally, it is a green pipe 7,2 m long with a flattened nose cone and open "fins" - rudders. The main know-how inside is the axial piston motor. In principle, it is similar to a normal car engine. But the pistons of a torpedo engine do not move vertically or at an angle relative to the shaft, but parallel.

The torpedo also has a water cannon as a propulsion device. The range of the "Case" is 60 km, and the speed is up to 65 knots (almost 120 km / h). According to the first parameter, it surpasses the most modern American torpedo Mk48 mod. 7 Spiral.

Until now, Project 955 ships of the Borey type and 885 of the Yasen type have been equipped with Fizik torpedoes. Ammunition for them is 40 and 30 units, respectively. Now all of them will be replaced with more advanced "Cases".

https://tass.ru/opinions/7845001

[Fizik M]

Quote: OrangeBigg

This is just speculation about Ichthyosaurus

this is KNOWLEDGE

Quote: OrangeBigg

Most likely Obnosov was referring to the Case torpedo.

in this case, TASS is a TAZZ in which Yksperd flops with its long tongue (and "sweet daddy's son") Dimulya Litovkin.
And what is the "Case" I do not need to treat, the real work on it went only at the end of 2015. after my application to the PRT. The topic is very necessary and promising, but we still have to work and work on it.

[gemini]

Hello Maxim. And what are the real data on the speed and range of "Physics"

[Fizik M]

Quote: Gemini

And what are the real data on the speed and range of "Physics"

as they say - "established order"

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Gemini

Hello Maxim. And what are the real data on the speed and range of "Physics"

And where do you come from such naive "inquisitive" !?
Probably you have never been trampled by the guys "in black" or in the 1st department they have never pressed on your bladder ... and you probably don't know anything about the 010 order of 2010 ...

[gemini]

and no one asked the boa. This is not a jungle, you should not show your insolence and arrogance.

[Fizik M]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And where do you come from such naive "inquisitive" !?

Maybe just out of naivety and ignorance, he asked, or maybe SPECIALLY. As if more than once or twice in discussions, "sent Cossacks" deliberately provoked to disclose

[Boa kaa]

Maxim, after reading such a "question", I immediately made a stance, like a hunting greyhound, sensing ... getting along.
A couple - offended. So we calculated it correctly.
AHA.

[Fizik M]

Quote: OrangeBigg

The range of the "Case" is 60 km, and the speed is up to 65 knots (almost 120 km / h). According to the first parameter, it surpasses the most modern American torpedo Mk48 mod. 7 Spiral.

this is Dimasi Litovkin's PUMP
which even the brain cannot turn on and think
realities are such that the energy intensity of "Pronit" and OTTO-II is very close, but we have an AMPOULE reservoir (that is, the volume is obviously less than amers, and a large length does not help much here)
with all the ensuing consequences

[Operator]

The piston engine is an outdated solution; on new Russian torpedoes, a gas turbine is installed complete with a gearless drive and a water cannon with one impeller and a straightening device.

Therefore, new domestic thermal torpedoes cover the American junk Mk48 like a bull with a piston engine, a gearbox and two counter-rotating screws, as ancient as mammoth shit.

[Fizik M]

Andryusha, as you were LITTLE, so go to the campaign and you will die

Quote: Operator

The piston engine is an outdated solution, a gas turbine is installed on the new Russian torpedoes

don't talk nonsense to her hurt! Andryusha, where did you suck this "creatyFF"
However, WHERE is clear, taking into account the subsequent "pearls"

Quote: Operator

new Russian torpedoes are equipped with gas turbine complete with gearless drive

in your "parish school" about gas turbine speed even told? Are you generally adequate, just to realize what kind of ACHINA you are carrying?
The ONLY product that has such a drive is APR-3, and nowhere else, because its efficiency is MORE THAN 2 TIMES LESS THAN that of GV and VD (see the book of Shahidzhanov and Myandin, MAI edition)

Quote: Operator

Therefore, new domestic thermal torpedoes cover the American junk Mk48 like a bull with a piston engine, a gearbox and two counter-rotating screws, as ancient as mammoth shit.

Murzilka, for starters, MK48 DOES NOT have a REDUCER, and she has a WATER JET.
With the rest of your nonsense - to doctors, I have no medical education

[Operator]

For example - two impellers of a water cannon of opposite rotation

[Fizik M]

pyashi ISTCHO
and these pictures murzil drag
I promise not to laugh loudly and not to kick painfully

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Fizik M

something on the "background of the issue"

Maxim, thanks, enlightened.

[rocket757]

Such a time, without plague, EXPENSIVE, weapons already nowhere!
The only reminder, Schaub money was well spent.

[d4rkmesa]

Hehe, well, the high cost of torpedoes seems to be compensated by their conditional reusability. At least the practical Americans are fishing.

[rocket757]

During the exercises, they try to catch all the torpedoes that cannot or could not complete the task.

[Fizik M]

Quote: d4rkmesa

Well, the high cost of torpedoes seems to be offset by their conditional reusability. At least the practical Americans are fishing.

ALL catch
in the USSR Navy, the frequency of use of torpedoes reached 40

the US Navy came across on amerovsky resources that before a combat torpedo gets into ammunition, it makes about 5 practical shots

[Charik]

So ready for mass production or work on it will still be carried out.

[Fizik M]

Quote: Charik

So ready for batch production

ready

[Aag]

Quote: Fizik M

Quote: Charik

So ready for batch production

ready

THIS IS NEWS! Even, it seems, from the positive ...
The site is recent, but the tactics of some have long been clear: ANY piece of news, or even "news" is stuck with an angry, or, "ugly" comment, raking in pluses (well, this is an amateur, psychology, however). Later, if the format, subject matter interesting, there are people with knowledge of the topic, personal experience on the topic, real knowledge of the state of affairs (within the confidentiality regime, I hope). Only then (IMHO) it becomes interesting!
So what does "permitted production" mean? Have you adopted it, or is it all for sale again?

[Fizik M]

Quote: AAG

So what does "permitted production" mean?

in exact terms, this is the letter O1

Quote: AAG

Have you adopted it?

this process can be long (see "Physicist-1")

Quote: AAG

Or is it all for sale again?

For a very long time, the export look without O1 (from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation) for products and complexes has not been issued (there are exceptions, but only confirming this rule)

[KCA]

It's time to change the name of the KTRV, the Kh-101/102 seem to go far beyond the scope of tactical missiles, and the torpedo armament is not rockets, although it seems that they will merge with Almaz-Antey in ecstasy, into a holding company like Mila and Kamova, all the more so Obnosov once said that they have missiles with a range greater than Caliber, either aviation X meant, or some other

[Fizik M]

two screens

[Center]

Chtd
there will probably be no response from Aserza
especially since it already exists - in the media

[Fizik M]

useful to remind

The Ministry of Defense and the Dagdizel plant in Dagestan signed a contract for the supply of 73 torpedoes (UET-1) for the Russian Navy. “The cost of such a contract is 7,2 billion rubles, it will be valid until 2023 inclusive. The first products are planned to be delivered to the Ministry of Defense next year, but the contract will be advanced this year, so the enterprise will begin mass production this year, ”TASS quotes Lieutenant General Anatoly Gulyaev, head of the Main Armament Directorate of the RF Armed Forces.

28.02.2018, B

[Old26]

Quote: Gemini

Hello Maxim. And what are the real data on the speed and range of "Physics"

Lord! What are you naive !!!!! Who, in the open press, will announce the real data to you. And not only for torpedoes, but also for everything else, missiles, for example

[Fizik M]

Quote: Old26

Who, in the open press, will announce the real data to you. And not only for torpedoes, but also for everything else, missiles, for example

in fact, there were some who voiced, and moreover, a lot of real disclosures are in the official materials of the RF Ministry of Defense (it's stupid because "who should" do not understand WHAT needs to be closed and HOW, and I work on the principle of "lick it would not be **** and"
.... and there were not at all naive who "asked"

[Old26]

Quote: Fizik M

in fact, there were some who voiced, and moreover, a lot of real disclosures are in the official materials of the RF Ministry of Defense (it's stupid because "who should" do not understand WHAT needs to be closed and HOW, and I work on the principle of "lick it would not be **** and"
.... and there were not at all naive who "asked"

Perhaps, dear Maxim, perhaps. That there are a lot of "leaks" in the official materials of the Ministry of Defense - I do not argue. But even in open materials, the performance characteristics are often very vague. And the fact that there are those "who ask" is elementary.
Let me give you one example. Time of action - early - mid-80s. The time when the Soviet "shuttle" was developed. Source - the English magazine "Space flights". They had such a cartoon then. The last few pages are devoted to the so-called. "answering readers' questions". And there, in this section, over the course of about a year, a number of letters of approximately the following content appear
"Dear sir. I heard (heard) that the Soviet Union is developing the same shuttle as in the United States, but only with a carrying capacity of 100 tons. Is that true?"
The answer follows that according to some reports, development is underway, but not with such a carrying capacity.
Those "who should" skip this note and do not remove it from the reprinted edition

After a couple of months, the same letter follows, but the carrying capacity is no longer 100 tons, but 75. The note is skipped
Here are a couple more notes. In the latter, the carrying capacity is indicated close to real. And those "who are supposed to" suddenly "cut" this note, acting on the principle "lizh would not ....". Not realizing that by doing so ....
But I told the comrade about the performance characteristics, which are voiced on the network. You shouldn't look for something very close there ...

[Escobar]

Let's not say "gop" in advance

[Escobar]

Let's not say "gop" in advance