To replace the "Hammer": Ukraine decided to buy the Bulgarian EM-120 mortars

In Ukraine, the scandal with the purchase of mortars once again showed itself. Earlier, the scandal was associated with the purchase of the Molot mortars produced in Ukraine from the Mayak company - as it turned out, this weapon is of poor quality and may explode when fired.

Now, against the backdrop of ongoing tests of the Ukrainian 120-mm mortar "Buchard" from the Starokramatorsk Machine-Building Plant, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine decided to purchase mortars from Bulgaria. It is reported that they plan to purchase a large batch of EM-120 mortars for the Armed Forces. These are mortars that are produced at the facilities of the EMCO company.

In fact, the word "produced" is not entirely appropriate here. The Bulgarian company, in fact, does not have its own technology and a full-fledged production base, so it is mainly engaged in the repair and alteration of old equipment. After this kind of alterations, mortars appear, which have now expressed a desire to purchase from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

In Ukraine, they believe that the deal was lobbied by Deputy Defense Minister Oleksandr Mironyuk, who has a personal interest. Previously, he oversaw trade with Bulgarian partners in Ukraine.

The scandal is connected with the fact that EM-120 mortars are not in service even in Bulgaria itself, and also do not have international certification for export. But the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, as they write in Ukraine itself, for some reason does not stop. As a result, Ukrainian experts considered that it could be a corruption scheme, according to which one low-quality mortar - "Hammer" - will be replaced by another, but from a foreign country and, possibly, at a higher price.

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[Victor_B]

Did they make hammers at the Poroshenko factory?
Or am I confused with the armored troughs?

[Egoza]

Quote: Victor_B

Did they make hammers at the Poroshenko factory?
Or am I confused with the armored troughs?

So and so, and so all of him "darling".

[Normal ok]

Quote: Victor_B

Did they make hammers at the Poroshenko factory?
Or am I confused with the armored troughs?

Confused. He made the Mayak plant, which had previously produced civilian (hunting, sports, airsoft) weapons. Someone surrounded by Poroshenko lobbied to give them an order.

[TermNachTer]

At the "Leninskaya Kuznitsa" not only armored troughs and mortars were made, armored vehicles were also tried, but there was such a quality, or rather it was not at all. In general, it did not work.

[Victor Tsenin]

Why, it was not, was, is and will be, such a good Ukrainian quality, God forbid they have more such mortars.

[aszzz888]

The Bulgarian company, in fact, does not have its own technology and a full-fledged production base, so it is mainly engaged in the repair and alteration of old equipment.

How many Ukronazis will be torn by a new one)) mortar? And their bosses - if only loot would flow into their pockets.

[2 Level Advisor]

just maybe it will be more reliable, it is from the Soviet, made normally, they remake, and not their "hammer" "sculpt" from the city and sticks

[zadorin1974]

Good Nikolai. I just can't understand one thing - during the Great Patriotic War, teenagers and women on their knees made the same mortars from scrap materials and they were nowhere safer. How can you mess with a "pipe" like that?

[2 Level Advisor]

Kind, Alexey .. I don’t know, maybe they didn’t save on hardware before .. otherwise I don’t understand that it is possible to screw up in the "pipe" ..

[Mavrikiy]

To replace the "Hammer": Ukraine decided to buy the Bulgarian EM-120 mortars

So on the site it was that they developed a wonderful replacement. Or again someone tore off the eggs?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Or again someone tore off the eggs?

How many more will there be?

[Masha]

The "hammer" did not justify itself ... the turn of the "anvil" ???

[tihonmarine]

The scandal is connected with the fact that EM-120 mortars are not in service even in Bulgaria itself, and also do not have international certification for export.

“God forbid that we don't like it!” Well done Bulgarians, sniffed the trash, and even got money.

[rocket757]

They go through all the stages of the process of selling their "homeland" .... their business, it is not for us to "teach" them, I guess.

[Pereira]

Is it still peremoga or already zrada?

[Mountain shooter]

With such "purchases" it is easier to get kickbacks, and right away in euros ... also to me, the secret of "Punchinelle" ... What does this have to do with mortars?

[Egoza]

This is how you read about "new provision of new weapons ...." and everything pushes me into literature. There is a fairy tale like grandmother and grandmother lived, well, very poorly, grandmother had all her skirt in patches. Grandfather scratched his turnip, went, earned some money and bought grandma a new skirt, and he fell asleep. Wakes up, and his grandmother: "Thank you, hubby. I cut a new skirt, patched up all the holes in the old skirt, and there are still so many patches for new patches!" This is how we have "new provision, new weapons"

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

As a result, Ukrainian experts considered that it could be a corruption scheme

Can I go? Yes, only for the sake of this everything was started.

[tralflot1832]

Sorry, not a mortarman at all. Do you still have the dual-loading option on the Bulgarian mortar?

[aszzz888]

tralflot1832 (Andrey S.)
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Sorry, not a mortar at all. On the Bulgarian mortar, the dual-loading option remains

Ukornatsik can throw three mines into the pipe.

[Vlad.by]

Here with her, it seems like a quirk ...

[KVU-NSVD]

this weapon was found to be of poor quality and could explode when fired.

Incorrect phrase - the Hammer does not explode, it is blown apart when the shot is punctured and subsequently detonated, the Hammer itself is just a pipe with a base plate and a two-legged carriage (mostly) and there is nothing to explode there.

[zadorin1974]

But it explodes! It's not about mines, is it? Soviet mortars do not explode?

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: zadorin1974

But it explodes! It's not about mines, is it? Soviet mortars do not explode?

It's all about the barrel manufacturing technology. It is possible sometimes in compliance with the technology of manufacturing devices to prevent double charging. There are no other reasons and cannot be. Trust the commander of the mortar platoon on the first VUS

[pytar]

the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine decided to purchase mortars from Bulgaria. It is reported that they plan to purchase a large batch of EM-120 mortars for the Armed Forces. These are mortars that are produced at the facilities of the EMCO company. In fact, the word "produced" is not entirely appropriate here. The Bulgarian company, in fact, does not have its own technology and a full-fledged production base,

This information seemed to me not entirely reliable, since scandals constantly occur around EMCO and its odious owner Yemelyan Gebrev. He was caught several times in illegal arms trade! As a result, the Bulgarian authorities terminated the license! Currently EMCO has no right to trade in arms! Gebrev is the dude who was allegedly hunted by the "novice" two years ago. In 2016, he acquired, according to obscure schemes, the Dunarit plant which produces explosives. "Dunarit" until then belonged to the richest oligarch in Bulgaria - Vasil Bozhkov. The authorities suspect that the deal was intended to complicate their ability to monitor the activities of these companies! In 2019, the Bulgarian prosecutor's office launched an investigation into Bozhkov's activities and accused him of a number of crimes, including contract killings! Bozhkov fled and is now hiding in the Emirates. From there he is leading the "protest rallies" that have been cracking Bulgaria for 2 months with the demand to leave the government and the chief prosecutor!

[Wolf]

Pitar, that's why they bought one of it. The owner of both their and Ukrainian buyers is the same CIA and the structure of the deep power of the United States, they sell weapons to terrorists around the world.
There is only one country, Ukraine has come to the level of a banana power when it can no longer make a good 120mm mortar. Complete destruction of the country, 30 years ago Ukraine launched missiles and world-class aircraft engines, in 30 years it cannot even have mortars!
And so NATO democracy works, progress was given by grandmothers to the market for oats and fruits.

[pytar]

There are always two sides to the arms trade - the public and the behind the scenes! What's in the West, what's in the East! The story of Viktor Bout is a confirmation. Dengi doesn't smell, but there are hundreds of billions of dollars! At the same time, it comes to interesting aliases, in which the citizens of the Russian Federation quite like "brotherly" cooperate with "NATO members". In the register of shareholders bulg. arms companies, there are also Russian names. Scandals broke out several times in connection with attempts by Ross. structures of obscure origin, to gain control of the Bulgarians. arms factories. You are probably aware that our Serbian friends also work this way. They quite successfully cooperate with their Bulgarian colleagues ... There is no sentiment in this business.
As for Ukraine, the degradation of the arms industry and science is clearly visible on one side. On the other hand, they are making attempts to restore at least part of the previous potential. They have interesting developments, but to what extent they will be able to establish high-quality production in large series is a question ...

[pytar]

By the way, nowhere in Bulgaria. information resources did not find a confirmation of the existence of a mortar with such abbreviation EM-120! The VO article itself is anonymous; it was copied in Runet to several other sites. I wonder if the author can give a link to the original source listed as the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine? Otherwise, justified doubts arise about the reliability of this information!

[Glory to Berkut]

In Ukraine, they believe that the deal was lobbied by Deputy Defense Minister Oleksandr Mironyuk, who has a personal interest.

Nooo! It can not be! In a country of victorious democracy.
It was not in vain that Maidan jumped against all this corruption and muddy oligarchic schemes!
So Vovochka was chosen so that the country would heal sharply, as in the series.

[Brturin]

against the background of ongoing tests of the Ukrainian 120-mm mortar "Buchard" from the Starokramatorsk Machine-Building Plant, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine decided to purchase mortars from Bulgaria

They wrote about this "Buchard" back in May 2019 - "the Kramatorsk developers showed a new 120 mm Buchard mortar with a new design of the base plate, which allows you to fire 360 ​​degrees without having to change its position." - they have been testing for more than a year, and the barrels seem to have suggested “that new barrels for mortars are being created not only in Kramatorsk. The Ukrainian mortar system showed 81 mm barrels made of titanium, and announced the possibility of producing 60 and 120 mm barrels. //topwar.ru/158065-na-ukraine-pokazali-tankovuju-pushku-sobstvennogo-proizvodstva.html ... and then the Bulgarians ...

[Incvizitor]

Whatever they do, things are not going, apparently their mother gave birth in an embroidered shirt ...

[Keyser soze]

seen in an embroidered shirt their mother gave birth ...

Yes, all Slavs, in principle, were given birth in embroidered shirts. This is a normal folk dress in Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine and probably also in Belarus and Russia. Pictures from folk tradition festivals in Zheravna, Bulgaria:

[Looking for]

this deal should be encouraged and welcomed in every possible way, any harm to the Kiev regime, the benefit of Russia.

[fn34440]

This is how the Bulgarians pay the Russians, for the fact that the Russians have repeatedly saved these b-sky chameleons from the Muslim yoke, at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Russian lives.
Bulgarians and in 1941-1945. they drowned for Hitler.