For which Russian weapons can the US missile defense facility in Deveselu be the target: issues of parity

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The new commander of the US missile defense facility in Deveselu, Romania, Michael Dwan, took office. In this position, he succeeded John Fitzpatrick. At the same time, for the US missile defense facility in Romania, they did not change, let's say, the legal registration. He remained under the operational control of the headquarters of the 6th fleet United States Navy, based in Naples, Italy. It was noted that this decision was made due to the fact that the technology used at the Deveselu facility is almost identical and works in coordination with the Aegis systems used on the destroyers of the US Sixth Fleet in Europe.

The missile defense system deployed by the Pentagon in Romania cost the US military budget about $ 1 billion. It is based on 44 anti-missiles. Management is carried out by 11 operators. The declared target detection range of the updated radar is up to 2,5 thousand km. With this, the United States continues to justify the construction of a missile defense facility, claiming that it was created to counter Iranian missiles. From Deveselu to the northeastern regions of Iran, about 1,7 thousand km.



But even if we take into account that "this is against Iran," it is clear that the United States is trying to "kill two birds with one stone" with its object, because from Deveselu, for example, to Sevastopol is less than 700 km. It is quite obvious that it is against Russia that this pseudo-defensive infrastructure is being built up, in which anti-missiles can be replaced with missiles at any moment. And if so, then for the Russian weapons the facility in Deveselu is the target.

But for what specific weapon?


If we take into account the statements of the Russian defense department about the performance characteristics of missiles (group 9M723) of the Iskander-M OTRK in terms of their range of less than 500 km, it turns out that the American facility in Romania is unattainable for the Iskander missiles (including those located in Crimea) ... However, we must not forget that the United States itself actually turned the missile defense facility in Romania into possible targets for the PTRC of the RF Armed Forces, leaving the INF Treaty. And what the range of Iskander missiles can be in the event of modernization as a response to the US withdrawal from the treaty is not for the Americans today.

However, Iskander are not alone. The US facility in Deveselu may be targeted by the Russian Black Sea Fleet. For example, we can talk about the 30th division of surface ships, which includes the latest patrol ships of the 11356R "Burevestnik" project of the so-called admiral's series. These are the "patrols" of the far sea zone "Admiral Grigorovich", "Admiral Essen" and "Admiral Makarov" with their main strike weapons in the form of cruise missiles "Caliber", against which NATO's anti-missile defense system is powerless.

The target of the facility in Deveselu may also be the carriers of the latest Russian hypersonic missile "Dagger". We are talking about MiG-31K, capable of approaching even in neutral airspace at a distance that will be enough for the Daggers to, say, restore the parity of the Russian and US missile and anti-missile forces in Eastern Europe. Namely, parity is the main guarantee of security in this region.
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  1. +2
    20 August 2020 12: 58
    Why was the PGRK division in Teikovo not considered?
    1. 0
      20 August 2020 13: 10
      And why ... It is likely that Iskander with a nuclear submarine will fly a little further and this is quite enough ... The minimum distance from a possible position on Cape Tarkhankut to the base is in the region of 670-700 km, the CD can be fired from there for sure ...
      1. +4
        20 August 2020 13: 28
        There is no agreement on the MRBM .... the range can be increased. Americans, if that standard Tomahawks will be put into cells with a range of up to 1500 km with a conventional warhead
        1. +4
          20 August 2020 14: 29
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Americans, if that standard Tomahawks will be put into cells with a range of up to 1500 km with a conventional warhead

          Why put Tomahawks on the ground? A couple of URO destroyers with 96 launchers each in Constanta - and there are four times more missiles and 300 km closer to our borders ...
          1. 0
            20 August 2020 14: 38
            Ground ones are easier to defend. You can disguise, set false targets, drive air defense missile systems of any type. The ship will rely only on its own capabilities, which are generally easier to suppress.
          2. +2
            20 August 2020 14: 55
            Quote: An64
            Why put Tomahawks on the ground?

            Because it is easier to protect them on land than at sea. Nobody canceled the echeloned defense. On destroyers this is impossible, there is no destroyer, there are no 96 launchers.
          3. 0
            20 August 2020 16: 02
            Then, that the ground ones stand and stand ... and the concentration of ships is monitored. But here I agree. Their existing ship and aviation arsenal is still enough and will be enough for the near future.
    2. +1
      20 August 2020 13: 15
      It will be a great honor to throw a 100-ton press at the radar. The hammer in the form of gauges is enough.
      1. +1
        20 August 2020 13: 27
        Quote: Wedmak
        It will be a great honor to throw a 100-ton press at the radar. The hammer in the form of gauges is enough.


        You can arrange the final stage of testing the KR X-50.
        By the end of this year, flight tests of the newest Russian X-50 rocket will be completed. The latter received the nickname "invisible" and, not yet having time to take up combat duty, entered the top ten ratings of the world's best air-launched cruise missiles from the military directory Jane's.


        aircraft missile X-50. The length of the projectile is only 6 meters with a total mass of 1600 kg, which allows it to hit targets at a distance of up to 1500 km. Plus, the engineers managed to reduce its effective dispersion area to 0,01 sq. m, turning the new rocket into a real "invisible".

        https://topcor.ru/15960-nevidimaja-x-55-rossija-ispytyvaet-novuju-krylatuju-raketu.html
    3. +2
      20 August 2020 13: 16
      You can also consider a raid by a qualified sabotage group. smile
    4. +1
      20 August 2020 14: 20
      Quote: K-612-O
      Why was the PGRK division in Teikovo not considered?

      And what is the minimum firing range of the PGRK? I think that Romania is not for take missiles ...
  2. +3
    20 August 2020 13: 04
    The caliber is good, but the Topol-M is better!

    To guarantee ...
    1. +4
      20 August 2020 13: 25
      Quote: Olgovich
      The caliber is good, but the Topol-M is better!

      Point-U - good!
      Iskander - good!
      Caliber - good!
      And Topol-M is better!
      1. -3
        20 August 2020 14: 17
        "Point-U - good!
        Iskander - good!
        Caliber - good!
        And Topol-M is better! "
        how many are there? enough for everyone?
        1. +1
          20 August 2020 14: 26
          Quote: aglet
          "Point-U - good!
          Iskander - good!
          Caliber - good!
          And Topol-M is better! "
          how many are there? enough for everyone?

          This is based on the song of the Soviet artist Kola Beldy:
          "Greyhound horse - good,
          and donkey - good,
          and the camel is good,
          and deer are better! "
          About whether there is enough for everyone. I think that in abundance, since there are not so many "all".
          1. -2
            20 August 2020 14: 31
            "About whether there is enough for everyone."
            but all the same? cola beldy, of course, good, but will there be enough for everyone? all of these are not so few, all of Europe + yusa, the Yakuts will not be enough
            1. -1
              20 August 2020 14: 58
              Nobody ever offered carpet bombing
              all of Europe + yusa

              nuclear charges. However, there are not so many objects against which special warheads can be used, as I was talking about.
              Why attack Rome or a Swiss village, Barcelona or the Cote d'Azur?
              Here you go.
  3. +3
    20 August 2020 13: 10
    The Americans proceed from the concept of a local war, but a nuclear war in Europe can instantly develop into an exchange of all nuclear weapons, and a local missile defense will not be needed.
  4. KCA
    +3
    20 August 2020 13: 17
    The whole concept of missile defense is crap, in the event of a massive attack, nothing will help, one, two, three missiles, oops, shot down by using a thermonuclear explosion already in the atmosphere, and if 1500 allowed SALT-3 thermonuclear weapons are flying at the same time, how can they be shot down? Wrap yourself in a white sheet and slowly crawl towards the cemetery without creating panic
    1. 0
      20 August 2020 13: 24
      And if, due to a strange flow of circumstances, the cemetery is located in the affected area, you can start digging right on the spot. Without creating panic.
      1. +3
        20 August 2020 13: 29
        The power of the explosion in Beirut was 1.8 kt ... a missile with a nuclear warhead of 1 Mt will erase this object into dust ... what
        1. -1
          20 August 2020 14: 16
          Why use an expensive 1Mt warhead on an object that is carried out by a pair of CDs to zero?
          1. 0
            20 August 2020 15: 02
            well, well, a couple of KR-statement or in question
      2. KCA
        +4
        20 August 2020 13: 34
        That's right, I live in Dubna, 70% of Moscow's water supply comes from the Moscow Canal, the first bb will fly to me, Moscow time and no need to bomb, everyone will rest in a month, well, or a little later, as the entire canal is drained to the bottom, and to the cemetery I'm not far away, about 4 km, closed, however, only to related graves, but I have enough relatives there, they will shelter
    2. -2
      20 August 2020 14: 21
      "The whole concept of missile defense is crap, in the event of a massive attack, nothing will help, one, two, three missiles, oops, they shot down using a thermonuclear explosion already in the atmosphere."
      Who will launch a rocket against partners? quickly take a pose, and express a concern, or two
  5. +7
    20 August 2020 13: 21
    The supreme said - a blow to the DECISION-MAKING CENTERS ... what are the anti-missiles in Romania? Or was the GDP, in their language, joking? How their condoms love lately ...
    1. 0
      20 August 2020 14: 22
      "Or VVP, in their language - was joking?"
      he just doesn't know
    2. -1
      20 August 2020 14: 41
      Well, in order to hit the center of decision-making, you need to bomb the Pro in all Poland with the Romanians.
      While Teikovo will be shooting at the Pentagon and Brussels, the VKS and the Navy will clear the way for the poplars with calibers and daggers
      1. +1
        20 August 2020 15: 18
        How many caliber will fly there?
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  8. +4
    20 August 2020 13: 46
    A Russian attack on the American base in Deveselu should leave no stone unturned in Romania.
    So that no one should be accustomed to place the bases of Russia's enemies on their territory.
    1. 0
      20 August 2020 14: 25
      "The Russian attack on the American base in Deveselu should not leave a stone unturned in Romania."
      it already happened, 70 years ago, it would be better not to have tried it. it will hardly be better now
      1. 0
        20 August 2020 15: 32
        Are you talking about 1944 now?
        1. -2
          20 August 2020 16: 59
          "Are you talking about 1944 now?"
          no about 1941
          1. 0
            22 August 2020 12: 25
            The RF Permanent Representative to the UN walks along the corridor, muttering thoughtfully under his breath:
            “Where else five?” Where else five?
            They ask him:
            - What are you speaking about?
            “You see, according to our calculations, five warheads are enough for the whole of Romania. And there are ten of them on the rocket. So we rack our brains - what to do with five more?
  9. -2
    20 August 2020 13: 49
    Quote: Olgovich
    The caliber is good, but the Topol-M is better!

    To guarantee ...

    Which will lead to the start of a nuclear war, already without guarantees.
  10. +3
    20 August 2020 14: 51
    The RF Permanent Representative to the UN walks along the corridor, muttering thoughtfully under his breath:
    “Where else five?” Where else five?
    They ask him:
    - What are you speaking about?
    - You see, according to our estimates, five warheads are enough for the whole of Britain. And there are ten on the rocket. So we rack our brains - what to do with five more?

    Britain can be replaced with Romania ...
  11. 0
    20 August 2020 14: 54
    I am sure that Iskander M with a new rocket will fly away completely even 1000 km ...
  12. -1
    20 August 2020 14: 55
    How will aeroballistic Dagger and Iskander pose a threat to this facility?

    How will Calibers pose a danger to this object if subsonic cruise missiles can be dangerous only when there are a hundred of them, and so many in a salvo of the Black Sea Fleet will not be enough even in 5 years ...

    The article is again empty without knowing the hardware ...
    1. 0
      20 August 2020 15: 36
      Quote: SovAr238A
      How will aeroballistic Dagger and Iskander pose a threat to this facility?

      Why not? I think there is a minimum defeat height e SM-3 kilometers 100 ...
      How will Calibers be dangerous for this object, if subsonic missile launchers can be dangerous only when there are hundreds of them,

      16 pieces will be enough if 4 pieces with nuclear warheads ....
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  13. -5
    20 August 2020 15: 27
    Quote: Wedmak
    It will be a great honor to throw a 100-ton press at the radar. The hammer in the form of gauges is enough.

    Quote: Wedmak
    Why use an expensive 1Mt warhead on an object that is carried out by a pair of CDs to zero?


    Is this a missile defense object carried out by a pair of CDs? This is which, in theory, for shooting down ballistic targets, you want to "take out a couple of CD"?
    Optimistic. good You can even throw felt boots, well, or tarpaulins, according to the season. laughing
    1. 0
      21 August 2020 05: 28
      Quote: KSVK
      You can even throw felt boots, well, or tarpaulins, according to the season.

      It is possible with felt boots. In the form of the X-101 with the Tu-22. Or, if you please, with tarpaulins, in the form of a Tu-160 with the same set.
      You are too optimistic about the security level of this object. Or tell us some secrets on this score? What is behind it, what means of air defense, aviation, and the fleet? With what set of air defense equipment against CD?
  14. 0
    20 August 2020 18: 48
    The best tool would be the Kh-32, but with a special warhead: Alabuga - an explosive pulse electromagnetic generator based on cesium iodide.