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"Let them take out their nuclear weapons too": Germany is reacting to the withdrawal of thousands of US troops

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Against the background of Washington's decision to withdraw almost 12 troops from Germany and to transfer the headquarters of the European Command from the FRG to Belgium, the German reaction to what is happening is noteworthy. And German experts, politicians and members of the public react differently.


Rolf Mützenich, head of the Social Democratic faction (SPD) in the Bundestag, sharply criticized Donald Trump's decision:

Shouldn't our federal government reconsider its cooperation with the United States after what the US is doing? In my opinion, this should be done. In particular, cooperation in the field of armaments needs to be revised.

The CDU (Christian Democratic Union) of Germany said that the withdrawal of thousands of American troops from the FRG "is regrettable." The CDU notes that such steps lead to "misunderstanding in the coalition." And at the same time, they note that for Germany in Europe "there is still no adequate and affordable replacement for the security system that was built together with the United States."

In the meantime, the aforementioned Rolf Mutzenich notes that the United States should in this case "take care of the removal of its nuclear arsenal from Germany." According to the deputy of the Bundestag, "It's time for Germany to understand that there is no need to expect predictable and well-considered actions from Trump." A similar opinion is shared by the leader of the Green faction, Katrin Goering-Eckard:

It will be better if the Americans take out their nuclear weapon... They could even pick up nuclear weapons instead of their soldiers. And the withdrawal of troops today does not meet either German or American interests, striking a blow at the transatlantic partnership.

Supporters of the Green Party claim that the United States has long gone from partnership to the very real blackmail.

One of the comments:

What deals with the United States can we talk about today? They are constantly blackmailing us, and our government is still trying to present this blackmail as a partnership with the Americans.


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  1. svp67
    svp67 31 July 2020 16: 01 New
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    But this is really an attempt to "blackmail" ... you do not want our LNG, you want cheap gas through SP-2, well then think about where you will get money for defense and compensation for losses from the withdrawal of our soldiers ... And these people then reproach us in "attempts at blackmail"
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 31 July 2020 16: 23 New
      +4
      Double mattress standards, why is there any surprise .......
    2. Aibolit
      Aibolit 31 July 2020 18: 13 New
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      Quote: svp67
      want cheap gas at SP-2, ...

      average LNG prices in Europe in 2020 will probably be at $ 4 per MMBTU (about $ 143 per 1 cubic meters)
      "natural native" gas from Gazprom


      The average break-even price of Gazprom's pipeline gas supplies, taking into account the export duty of 30%, is about $ 130 per 1 cubic meters
      NOT SUCH HE ALREADY AND "cheap"


      profitability of American gas from independent shale producers is about $ 5 per MMBTU. In thousands of cubic meters more familiar to Gazprom, this is about $ 180. (based on 35,8 MMBTU in 1000 cubic meters)

      Quote: svp67
      Well then, think about where you will get money for defense and compensation for losses from the withdrawal of our soldiers ..

      Poland acted easier
      - promised Trump a fort named after him and a US military base in Poland, funded by Poland. Coronovirus prevented "funds"
      - Poland has no money, NATO did not give it, the EEC stops financing Poland
      -July 2020 Russian gas monopoly Gazprom paid the Polish gas concern PGNiG established by the Arbitration Court in Stockholm compensation for unreasonably high prices for the supplied gas: 1,5 billion.
      There will be a US military base in Poland). Trump or Biden, not the essence) on the funds of Gazprom (our "national" property
      1. sir.jonn
        sir.jonn 1 August 2020 06: 59 New
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        Quote: Aibolit
        NOT SUCH HE ALREADY AND "cheap"

        There is one big drawback in your calculations, in order to transport liquefied gas it is necessary to use auto and marine gas carriers, but here all its disadvantages and the final cost for the consumer appear.
        1. Aibolit
          Aibolit 1 August 2020 12: 28 New
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          Quote: sir.jonn
          There is one big drawback in your calculations, in order to transport liquefied gas, you need to use auto and marine gas carriers

          - You can't lay a pipe from the USA to Europe, or from Qatar to China. (They don't have an effective Miller and co)
          -Modern tankers of standard sizes Q-Flex and Q-Max are capable of transporting up to 210-266 thousand m3 of LNG (loading a vessel in an LNG export port, for example, 160 m000 of liquid LNG is loaded in 3 day)
          -After the liquefaction of natural gas, during the storage and transportation of LNG, methane vapors, known as “boil-off gas” (OG), are emitted due to the effects of ambient temperature and tank pumps, as well as changes in atmospheric pressure.

          The maximum permissible value of the evaporation rate in a fluidized bed is about 0,15% / day on the volume of cargo

          Currently, LNG tankers are equipped with 2-fuel steam turbines capable of operating both on marine fuel oil and on boil-off gas.


          Quote: sir.jonn
          all its disadvantages and the final cost to the consumer.

          In April 2020, gas was trading at about $ 2,9-3 per million British thermal units (MBTU) in Europe and $ 1 per MBTU in Asia.

          despite the fall in gas prices, which “almost hit the bottom”, NOVATEK will not abandon plans to build new LNG plants,
    3. halpat
      halpat 31 July 2020 19: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      But this is really an attempt to "blackmail" ... you do not want our LNG, you want cheap gas through SP-2, well then think about where you will get money for defense and compensation for losses from the withdrawal of our soldiers ... And these people then reproach us in "attempts at blackmail"

      And the defense of Germany is needed ??
      From whom? Well, perhaps from the Poles.
      Germany, as a purely European country that has neither military bases nor “mandated” territories beyond its borders, does not need an army at all, in my opinion. A strong police force is enough.
      If necessary, they will call on Vladimir Vladimirovich for help. He knows German perfectly.
      Yes, and piss attack, if Angela only hints, we will invite Russia :)
      But this is from the realm of the incredible. :))
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 31 July 2020 20: 47 New
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        Quote: Halpat
        And the defense of Germany is needed ??
        From whom? Well, perhaps from the Poles.
        Germany, as a purely European country that has neither military bases nor “mandated” territories beyond its borders, does not need an army at all, in my opinion. A strong police force is enough.
        If necessary, they will call on Vladimir Vladimirovich for help. He knows German perfectly.
        Yes, and piss attack, if Angela only hints, we will invite Russia :)
        But this is from the realm of the incredible. :))

        So I think that the Germans need to understand and accept one simple truth that the United States is a parasite country that, like a worm, parasitizes on a foreign organism and draws out all the juices from it to the last drop, leading to complete ruin. The Germans will live quite calmly and will work up "fat" only when they get rid of the mattress presence, and therefore they need to "take a closer look" at those politicians and collaborators who are campaigning for the presence of Americans. Even if Germany does not have a single tank left, they are not interesting to Russia as a "trophy", but at the same time, they are interesting as an economic partner, from full cooperation with which, implementing the project "From Lisbon to Vladivostok", both countries will not grow economically one decade. Russia will never attack Europe for the simple reason that we would have to fully inhabit and equip our territories.
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 31 July 2020 21: 47 New
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      Quote: svp67
      But this is really an attempt to "blackmail" ... you do not want our LNG, you want cheap gas at SP-2, well then think about where you will get money for defense and compensation for losses from the withdrawal of our soldiers ...

      And then it's even more interesting!
      If nothing happens, then the Germans and others will be able to fully appreciate the uselessness of the American troops. After all, nothing happens after the withdrawal .............. but here everyone is mistaken. The Americans will teach Germany a lesson in the next 6 10 months Migrants will revolt, hostilities will begin in Ukraine, will they blow up a couple of factories, oil storage facilities or metro stations in Berlin, I do not know how they will act, but what will happen is indisputable!
      However, we'll see it soon,there are no such accidents !
    5. Clear
      Clear 1 August 2020 00: 18 New
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      It will be better if the Americans take out their nuclear weapons as well.
      Yes, and let bad people whip.

      1. Aibolit
        Aibolit 1 August 2020 20: 40 New
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        Quote: Clear
        Yes, and let bad people whip.

        The male insides are immediately felt.
        / Costumed they are so "mysterious"


        zoom, zoom ... the only woman in the USSR who had both of these awards is the pilot Grizodubova.
        and look here:
        1. Clear
          Clear 1 August 2020 23: 46 New
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          Quote: Aibolit
          The male insides are immediately felt.

          Well, of course, I have a "gut", and you have a "tender feeling" winked
          Even the most beautiful woman doubts her beauty, but a bald, small, pot-bellied man with crooked legs is always, damn it, irresistible!

          Sherlock Holmes, you have nothing to watch.
        2. vVvAD
          vVvAD 2 August 2020 00: 07 New
          +1
          So here "ranks" by the number of pluses for posts are considered. For me, a civilian, these drawn stripes went as they drove. But that's me.
          The administration, I remember, wanted to bring the shoulder straps in line with the real ranks, so the couch howled ...
          It is not clear what prevented the stylization of the current "rating" ones as cartoons, and the ones corresponding to real titles (with the appropriate verification procedures) - to be put in their place.
  2. Kuz
    Kuz 31 July 2020 16: 06 New
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    Sometimes really reasonable statements are heard "on the other side". We wish the Germans success in defending their sovereignty.
    1. Berber
      Berber 31 July 2020 16: 13 New
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      Yes, they exchange their sovereignty for capital. And this fits into the modern mentality of the Western world. So all this verbal noise (and from both sides) is the usual market bargaining.
      And by and large, for an acceptable price, they will "dance" for you.
  3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 31 July 2020 16: 10 New
    +3
    To be honest - without emotion, it is neither warm nor cold!
    Have a nice weekend !!!
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 July 2020 16: 30 New
    +2
    Woke up? Either there will be more ... They whined ... The owner leaves, just throws. The Russian bear will come and eat ...
  5. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 31 July 2020 16: 30 New
    +3
    The Greens achieved the closure of their nuclear power plant, now a new topic has appeared
    withdrawal of nuclear weapons.
    Interestingly, they vyaknul so for show or outright excited.
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 31 July 2020 16: 31 New
    +3
    Look at the photo. This impudent overgrown "face" can really listen without laughing. I love my cat. The same expression on his face when he asks for a chicken.
    1. BASHAR ASAD
      BASHAR ASAD 31 July 2020 18: 38 New
      +1
      What photo, sorry
  7. vavilon
    vavilon 31 July 2020 16: 34 New
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    Why did we withdraw! ?????
    And what do we have! ?????
  8. Operator
    Operator 31 July 2020 17: 13 New
    -4
    "The roof goes quietly with a slate of rustling": German globalists-masochists (social democrats and greens) cried out that after 30 years of freebies from the overseas hegemon, they themselves would have to fork out for defense.

    Like we want to be forever occupied and so that African Americans would have us in all holes laughing
  9. And Makarov
    And Makarov 31 July 2020 17: 50 New
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    The Germans became either smart or brave.
  10. evgen1221
    evgen1221 31 July 2020 18: 13 New
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    A little off topic, the news of the day. Russian banks have approved the withdrawal of money in favor of banks from accounts with no activity for more than a year. The search for the owner and notification will apparently be by SMS. The alliance includes Rosselkhoz, Alfa and others with the blessing of the Central Bank in the name of fighting corruption. The news was published on the Yandex portal and in Izvestia.
  11. PSih2097
    PSih2097 31 July 2020 18: 22 New
    +2
    I would say, but let the woman politician, whom I respect and with whom I am in love, speak (not to the detriment of my wife, of course, though ...) - Sarah Wagenknecht:
    1. loki565
      loki565 31 July 2020 20: 27 New
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      Oh, quite an interesting video, it's a pity that she is not Chancellor)))
    2. borberd
      borberd 31 July 2020 21: 50 New
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      Politicians, such politicians laughing ... 10 percent of what she says can be meaningful, everything else does not make sense at all. The main postulate of her statements is "Let us spend the money we spend on defense on sausages."
  12. certero
    certero 31 July 2020 22: 55 New
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    Quote: svp67
    where will you take money for defense and compensation for losses from the withdrawal of our

    Why would the Germans compensate for that? Are they going to attack them?
    1. Crash
      Crash 1 August 2020 11: 30 New
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      Are they going to attack them?

      But what about the postulate: Who does not want to feed his army, will feed someone else's? Although ... the stranger is still fed winked
  13. iouris
    iouris 1 August 2020 11: 27 New
    0
    In Germany, they react differently. Will we help?
  14. Andrey Sova
    Andrey Sova 1 August 2020 12: 29 New
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    "... our federal government should not reconsider its cooperation with the United States?" ©
    How can an occupied country demand and revise something?