OTRK "Iskander-M" will be involved in the protection of the Russian coast

The Iskander-M operational-tactical missile systems (OTRK) will be used to attack amphibious assault forces and ships of a potential enemy. This was reported by Izvestia with reference to sources in the Ministry of Defense.

Rocket brigades of the ground forces, armed with Iskander-M missile systems, will be trained from this year on striking enemy ships and assault forces to cover the coast. This exercise will be included in the standard missile combat training program.

According to the Ministry of Defense, the Iskander-M OTRK located in the depths of the defense can receive target designations from aviation, fleet, reconnaissance and UAV. Thanks to automated command and control systems, information in real time will be received by the OTRK crews, which will be able to both reflect the landing of enemy amphibious assault forces and support the landing of their own.

The first exercises with "naval" Iskander firing took place during a surprise check of troops announced by the Russian President. OTRK deployed in the Kuban conducted electronic missile launches during a tactical exercise to repel the seizure of the Black Sea coast. During the firing, the OTRK crews conditionally destroyed the amphibious assault and military equipment landed on the shore from the ships.

Recall that in November last year, the Ministry of Defense announced the rearmament of ten missile brigades at the Iskander-M missile system and the formation of three more. The Russian industry produces two brigade sets of OTRKs per year.

Comments

[svp67]

The "points" were used for this, and the worse the "Iskander" is, the more so that they can shoot both ballistic and cruise missiles ... The main thing is that intelligence data would be promptly received.

[1976AG]

And what is the need for this? Are we missing DBK? This is their job. Why sparrows from a cannon?

[svp67]

Quote: 1976AG

Are we missing DBK?

"Do not spoil the porridge with butter" ... the more firepower there are capable of striking the landing ship group, the less there will be those who can land on our shore

[Starover_Z]

Quote: svp67

the more firepower there are capable of striking the amphibious ship group, the fewer there will be those who can land on our shore

In terms of range, yes, good. A missile is a targeted strike, here it would be necessary to use a cluster warhead or MLRS "Uragan", "Smerch", "Tornado" systems. This is just in time to hit the gripping coastline. And the ships will get the landing. An area hit will be better.

[Imperial Technocrat]

Iska has a cassette head. This complex generally has almost 7 types of heads, or even more

[Ros 56]

Sparrows you landing ships and their cover call.

[1976AG]

Quote: Ros 56

Sparrows you landing ships and their cover call.

I call the landing sparrows, and the DBKs are primarily intended for the destruction of ships. And it is easier, more logical and cheaper to build more DBKs.

[svp67]

Quote: 1976AG

And it is easier, more logical and cheaper to build more DBKs.

But this does not mean that only they should be used to destroy the enemy landing forces, especially since the Iskander will have more power. To strike with Iskander, upset the marching order, and then finish off individual ships with Ballami and Bastion

[1976AG]

Quote: svp67

Quote: 1976AG

And it is easier, more logical and cheaper to build more DBKs.

But this does not mean that only they should be used to destroy the enemy landing forces, especially since the Iskander will have more power. To strike with Iskander, upset the marching order, and then finish off individual ships with Ballami and Bastion

Of course not. For this, there are MLRS and other units of the ground forces. And for the destruction of ships, anti-ship missiles are still more preferable, since they attack ships taking into account the importance of each and taking into account their anti-missile defense.

[svp67]

Quote: 1976AG

Of course not. For this, there are MLRS and other units of the ground forces. And for the destruction of ships, anti-ship missiles are still more preferable, since they attack ships taking into account the importance of each and taking into account their anti-missile defense.

My dear man, the more damage we inflict on them from a greater distance, the easier it will be on the shore, especially since they are now resorting to over-the-horizon landing tactics ... and their ships will have to be reached beyond the horizon

[1976AG]

So make the DBK missiles more long-range, and if you follow your logic, then ICBMs are even better suited for this.

[svp67]

Quote: 1976AG

... if you follow your logic, ICBMs are even better suited for this.

If they hit the naval base and naval bases, then yes. "Each vegetable has its own fruit."
The Iskander-K is equipped with not only ballistic missiles, but also the "land" Caliber, which is an excellent means of engaging ships.

[1976AG]

Quote: svp67

Quote: 1976AG

... if you follow your logic, ICBMs are even better suited for this.

If they hit the naval base and naval bases, then yes. "Each vegetable has its own fruit."
The Iskander-K is equipped with not only ballistic missiles, but also the "land" Caliber, which is an excellent means of engaging ships.

So that's it, that everyone should do their job. DBK will not be able to perform the functions of Iskander.

[svp67]

Quote: 1976AG

DBK will not be able to perform the functions of Iskander.

And nevertheless, their missiles can do it, in the sense of striking land targets.
There used to be separate Tochk-U missile divisions in motorized rifle and tank divisions, I fully admit the return of these divisions to land formations, but armed with Iskander

[1976AG]

In principle, to strike at ground targets - yes. But in terms of range, impact power, ability to overcome enemy air defense and missile defense - no!

[Charik]

so there are long-range PKR-Onyx, Caliber-winged-maybe they are unified for the Iskander launcher

[Marconi41]

Quote: svp67

My dear man, the more we damage them from a distance, the easier it will be on the shore,

Will you get there? It’s not cheap. Not for that they were created, their tasks are completely different. Airfields, warehouses with BP, air defense facilities, troop concentrations. And ships have the ability to move, which is not ice at all for Iskander!

[svp67]

Quote: Marconi41

Will you get there?

Well, this is already an artillery case, the Chinese artillerymen somehow even manage to hit with ballistic missiles, I don't think ours are worse

[Marconi41]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Marconi41

Will you get there?

Well, this is already an artillery case, the Chinese artillerymen somehow even manage to hit with ballistic missiles, I don't think ours are worse

One out of 10 times? Maybe DBK will do it better? More chances. The shoemaker should make boots, not pies.

[svp67]

Quote: Marconi41

One out of 10 times?

Well, the Chinese have an expense - one rocket ...

[PSih2097]

Quote: svp67

Well, the Chinese have an expense - one rocket ...

do you sound the power of the head DF-21 ???? 100 - 500 Kt, this is in addition to non-nuclear equipment, but 500 Kt, and even a hundred Kt in KVO 30-40m for AUG is a lot ...

[svp67]

Quote: PSih2097

do you sound the power of the head DF-21 ???? 100 - 500 Kt, this is in addition to non-nuclear equipment, but 500 Kt, and even a hundred Kt in KVO 30-40m for AUG is a lot ...

Sorry, but with such accuracy you can just shoot at them with a blank

[Charik]

over such a vinton carrier, a cassette and norms will explode - vertices can be pushed into the water

[svp67]

Quote: Ros 56

Sparrows you landing ships and their cover call.

"Sparrows" over-the-horizontal landing ....

[1976AG]

Do you call ships sparrows?)

[svp67]

Quote: 1976AG

Do you call ships sparrows?)

No, you called them that ... do not give up authorship

Quote: 1976AG

Why sparrows from a cannon?

[1976AG]

Quote: svp67

Quote: 1976AG

Do you call ships sparrows?)

No, you called them that ... do not give up authorship

Quote: 1976AG

Why sparrows from a cannon?

Please read carefully, I called the landing party sparrows.

[svp67]

Quote: 1976AG

Please read carefully, I called the landing party sparrows.

Long-range weapon strikes should do everything to make the enemy abandon the idea of ​​a landing

[1976AG]

Quote: svp67

Quote: 1976AG

Please read carefully, I called the landing party sparrows.

Long-range weapon strikes should do everything to make the enemy abandon the idea of ​​a landing

I agree. But why involve Iskanders if you can get by with the use of a DBK? And if we talk specifically about ships, then there is also sea and air-based anti-ship missiles.

[svp67]

Quote: 1976AG

But why involve Iskanders if you can get by with the use of a DBK?

"The stock of the pocket does not pull"
Now I don't know what intelligence our General Staff has. I can only assume that with the change in the landing tactics and the transfer of the landing line of the landing craft, with the appearance of the UDC, far beyond the horizon, now it has demanded something to get them there, as well as on the transition.

[Observer2014]

svp67 (Sergey) I read your conversation with 1976AG (Alexey) .I probably couldn't do that I would have run out of patience after his second run. "Iskander" complex is multifaceted. Missiles can be used differently. According to its capabilities. And therefore it has the ability to hit sea targets. And why not a DBK, for example, "Bastion" because the missile systems must be universal. In Syria, remember ours used DBK for land targets? (This is not for you Sergey specifically)

[1976AG]

You watched our conversation for about 15 minutes, but did not understand the essence. This is bad. The bottom line is that if there are specialized systems for dealing with ships, then why use more expensive and possibly less effective weapons to accomplish this task? And if there is not enough DBK in our army, then is it not easier and cheaper to put more DBKs in the Armed Forces, and not to attract more expensive Iskander? Is it really that hard to understand?

[Observer2014]

It is not difficult to understand at all. It is difficult to understand when two smart people are trying to prove the same thing to each other. By the way, for fairness, I will also post a video about the hit of the DBK of absolutely the same company. Where the hit of the DBK on a sea target is perfectly visible. With a blow under the ship's waterline. Right? I think yes.Will Iskander be able to do this? I don’t know. Possibly. I don’t own any additional information. But the range of missiles that the Iskander can strike is large.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: 1976AG

And what is the need for this? Are we missing DBK? This is their job. Why sparrows from a cannon?

Why sparrows from a cannon? Iskander is an army level, and when using a special warfare unit, units of a special battalion call in at special bases .. The task of the General Staff to guard the deployment of such units is, not the neffront or army unit to which everything is assigned.

[Prahlad]

They sent a lot to Libya, Syria, etc., So we close the holes with what we can

[Charik]

Maximum target destruction range: 500 km Iskander-K (with the R-500 cruise missile up to 2500 km) -Iskander can use a wide range of cluster warheads. Range of destruction: 120 km with the Kh-35 missile and 260 km with the Kh-35U missile - this is such a necessity-

[1976AG]

Quote: Charik

Maximum target destruction range: 500 km Iskander-K (with the R-500 cruise missile up to 2500 km) -Iskander can use a wide range of cluster warheads. Range of destruction: 120 km with the Kh-35 missile and 260 km with the Kh-35U missile - this is such a necessity-

If a quasi-ballistic missile is used, the question is, is it capable of destroying moving targets? If a cruise missile, then it is subsonic, and then another question is whether it will be able to overcome the enemy's air defense? The anti-ship missiles are designed to overcome air defense - missile defense, they have a complex algorithm that takes into account both the degree of danger of the ship and the features of the protection of the ship group. Does the R-500 (or what kind of Iskander-K) have such capabilities?

[Charik]

a quasi-ball on an assault force or on weakly protected ships is probably possible, but a winged and anti-aircraft ship with air defense standards will do

[Thunderbolt]

The special battalion will hold the perimeter, and then the battery with the attached forces will deploy
There is no choice. Only the level of the use of nuclear weapons is incomprehensible, but such things are not taught in artillery schools, you have to delve into it yourself.

[KCA]

X-35 is "Ball", "Bastion" "Onyx", what is the need with it?

[Imperial Technocrat]

Tochka doesn't seem to have a seeker, but Iskander does. You can't walk around the ship from the Tochka. Is that standing))

[svp67]

Quote: Imperial Technocrat

You can't walk around the ship from the Tochka.

It is quite normal "zhahaya" ...

Quote: Imperial Technocrat

The Point does not seem to have a homing head

Accuracy is quite enough for her KBCh to cover a detachment, and even a single ship

[Insurgent]

Iskander-M operational-tactical missile systems (OTRK) will be used to strike at amphibious assault forces and ships of a potential enemy.

Why not apply, with the necessary measures for aiming at the target?

It seems during the Second World War, somewhere in East Prussia, a German submarine was sunk by a cannon shot from the shore by a Soviet self-propelled gun ...

[mvg]

a Soviet self-propelled gun shot from the shore.

It baked your head in NM. Do not be offended, and this does not happen

[svp67]

Quote: mvg

It baked your head in NM. Do not be offended, and this does not happen

So the Japanese on Matua could sink an American submarine with a field gun, and why are our gunners worse?

[Cyril G ...]

Would you apologize to a person or something ..

U 78 (type VII C)
Due to the lack of torpedo tubes during its construction (adopted by the fleet on 15.2.41), it received only two bow TA. Throughout the war, she was a training submarine in the 22nd Flotilla (Gotenhafen) until March 1945, when it was reclassified as a floating charging station. She was nominally in the 4th flotilla (Stettin), but remained in Pillau, where she was sunk by 18.4.45 Soviet artillery during the assault on the city. Sank at the pier of the Marine Station.

[Dikson]

I read about a case when a plane was shot down from a 120mm mortar .. The clerk seems to be ..

[svp67]

Quote: Dikson

I read about a case when a plane was shot down from a 120mm mortar .. The clerk seems to be ..

During that war, the case was not rare, especially with our Il-2

[Imperial Technocrat]

Hello, how will you hit a moving target without a seeker? The point does not have it, Iska has it

[Mimoprohodil]

Quote: svp67

Accuracy is quite enough for her KBCh to cover a detachment, and even a single ship

As long as the rocket reaches, the ships will sail a couple of kilometers. And the cassette warhead has a lesion area of ​​only 3-7 hectares, this is a circle with a diameter of 200-300 meters

[URAL72]

It's simple. The dagger developed on the basis of Iskander was just positioned as an anti-ship, which means it has a new guidance system. So why not implement it on Iskander's progenitor? She's already there. At the same time, modernize the complex. The advantage of Iskander over the DBK is its trajectory and speed, it is more difficult to shoot it down than even Bastion, not to mention the Bal.

[1976AG]

Quote: URAL72

It's simple. The dagger developed on the basis of Iskander was just positioned as an anti-ship, which means it has a new guidance system. So why not implement it on Iskander's progenitor? She's already there. At the same time, modernize the complex. The advantage of Iskander over the DBK is its trajectory and speed, it is more difficult to shoot it down than even Bastion, not to mention the Bal.

"Balls" and "Bastions" hit the ships not with single missiles, but with salvo, plus they competently choose the trajectory of approach to the target, so that it is easier or not simpler a moot point. But if Iskander is able to perform the function of the DBK, then the DBK of the Iskander function will definitely not be able to pull it off, so let the shoemaker, and not the pastry, wear the boots.

[URAL72]

You are wrong. In Syria, Bastion worked on the ground, he can. Ball subsonic rocket like Harpoon, Exocet, etc. This is a job for ZAK. How to shoot down Iskander? Aegis can, but with difficulty and not a fact. The Aegis missile is more expensive than Iskander, and one cannot do it. There are simply no other means in the fleet. Anyone.

[Imperial Technocrat]

Aegis can't

[Imperial Technocrat]

At the altitude that Iska flies, the US air defense is no longer working, and the missile defense is still not working. So far, Iska is invulnerable

[URAL72]

Yah? Imagine that "Iska" needs to hit the target, he will do it without lowering? In the final section, his speed drops to 3M. It is very difficult to shoot down, but it is possible. Except for Aegis, there is nothing more on the ships.

[Imperial Technocrat]

The decline occurs at the final stage, and is almost vertical. Aegis does not work under this degree - Iska flies into the dead zone

Iskandner was specially sharpened under the weakness of the American missile defense

[URAL72]

Think wider. Or stop drinking. Americans, do not go raiders. They have a ship warrant. The width of such an order may be 200 km. There are dozens of ships. The target, yes, will not be defeated, but another ship, yes. They are in the joint air defense system. One can accompany the target, the other can shoot down. If there is an avik in the order, do not forget about Hawkeye.

[Imperial Technocrat]

Alkash, sleep it off, what orders? No Aegis from any angle works at the same altitude as Iskander flies. Teach materiel

[Thrifty]

What for? Will the Iskanders continue to use them as anti-missile defense systems? If this is an OTRK, that does not need to sculpt a station wagon out of it!

[svp67]

Quote: Thrifty

If this is an OTRK, that does not need to sculpt a station wagon out of it!

It is already "universal". And why is the ship a bad target for him?

[1976AG]

Quote: Thrifty

What for? Will the Iskanders continue to use them as anti-missile defense systems? If this is an OTRK, that does not need to sculpt a station wagon out of it!

This article is more like an information cover for the increase in the number of missile brigades. The GPV 2011-2020 provided only for the rearmament of 10 brigades from "Tochki" to "Iskander", and now we are talking about the formation of new brigades. This is logical given the current situation. Most likely, no one is going to use them against the landings, but such infa will go to divert eyes.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: 1976AG

The GPV 2011-2020 provided only for the rearmament of 10 brigades from "Tochki" to "Iskander"

19.03.20/30/XNUMX "Izvesti" I published an interview with the Commander of the Southern Military District of the g / p A. Dvornikov, in which he said that the RV SV already had XNUMX missile brigades re-equipped with Iskander-M missiles with a full range of stealth missiles and onboard electronic warfare systems (overcoming PRO).
The last - 464 RakBR, Znamensk, Astrakhan region.

[1976AG]

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: 1976AG

The GPV 2011-2020 provided only for the rearmament of 10 brigades from "Tochki" to "Iskander"

19.03.20/30/XNUMX "Izvesti" I published an interview with the Commander of the Southern Military District of the g / p A. Dvornikov, in which he said that the RV SV already had XNUMX missile brigades re-equipped with Iskander-M missiles with a full range of stealth missiles and onboard electronic warfare systems (overcoming PRO).
The last - 464 RakBR, Znamensk, Astrakhan region.

I have not seen this information, but if so, then I am very happy about it, here the more - the better!

[ancient]

Quote: svp67

"Points" were used for this,

Were "points" used when striking MANEUVER targets?

[svp67]

Quote: ancient

Were "points" used when striking MANEUVER targets?

And for a cluster warhead, this is of great importance, given their density of the amphibious order, or you think that they will bring a single ship for our capture ...

[ancient]

Quote: svp67

And for a cassette warhead, this has a strong meaning,

For the BCCH, such a parameter as the effective scattering area is important ... this time.
For what purposes is the BCCH used by the ASP is two, something I have not met, that would be balls, AO or PTABs ... on ships

Quote: svp67

You think that they will bring a single ship for our capture.

I believe that there are no strong idiots in the NATO Command ... that would even ... "try" to land somewhere on our coast.
All expeditionary forces can be destroyed even at the loading points ... if it already comes to something serious

[svp67]

Quote: ancient

I believe that there are no strong idiots in the NATO Command ... that would even ... "try" to land somewhere on our coast.

But in vain, there are many places on the Pacific coast, including on the islands

[ancient]

Quote: svp67

But in vain, there are many places on the Pacific coast, including on the islands

Do not engage in "fiction" ..... you think the Yankees have already forgotten about Pearl Harbor, and japa about Hiroshima and Nagasaki ... and to fly to the entire West Coast of the United States ... ugh and there are 3 naval base and 5 PB, and the continental part with the Atlantic coast ... is shot at once

[svp67]

Quote: ancient

and japa about Hiroshima and Nagasaki

The main thing is that they remember the four islands of the Kuril ridge, which they consider their

Quote: ancient

and there are 3 naval base and 5 PB, and the continental part with the Atlantic coast ... is shot at once

Knowing how many naval bases and bases they have in other countries, this does not reassure

Quote: ancient

think the Yankees have forgotten about Pearl Harbor

Do we have the strength and means to arrange it again, without the use of nuclear weapons?

[ancient]

Quote: svp67

The main thing is that they remember the four islands of the Kuril ridge, which they consider their

That's it ... I have lost interest in talking with you ... I am not engaged in "childhood" ... or were you not taught that .. "want and ... be able" ... are a priori different actions?

[svp67]

Quote: ancient

I don’t do my childhood

Although you are "ancient", but worse than a "child" ....

Quote: ancient

... or were you not taught that .. "want and ... be able" ... are a priori different actions?

Read about the "global missile strike"
Chao ...

[Imperial Technocrat]

Do we have the strength and means to arrange it again, without the use of nuclear weapons?

Yes

[ancient]

Quote: ancient

when striking MANEUVER targets?

I seem to have asked a SPECIFIC question, and you answered on the basis of ... "myself"?
Well, very indicative ... you probably got pleasure?

[EnGenius]

Iskander-M, it seems, should have been equipped with a Dagger homing head, so that it is capable of hitting moving targets, and not just launching at the desired coordinates.

[stels_07]

We would have a medium-range ballistic missile like the Chinese for sea targets

[5-9]

More Iskander good and different! Preferably with special warheads

[Souchastnik]

Well, it's clear from the landing on the shore. What about the enemy ships? While at anchor? Or homing heads attached?

[Imperial Technocrat]

From the very beginning there were and are optical guidance heads. Just like on the Dagger

[1976AG]

Quote: Souchastnik

Well, it's clear from the landing on the shore. What about the enemy ships? While at anchor? Or homing heads attached?

Isn't it too fat on the Iskander landing?

[Souchastnik]

Isn't it too fat on the Iskander landing?

Let's leave to define goals and assess effectiveness to rocket specialists. But there are situations when it is necessary to use any available means.

[1976AG]

Quote: Souchastnik

Isn't it too fat on the Iskander landing?

Let's leave to define goals and assess effectiveness to rocket specialists. But there are situations when it is necessary to use any available means.

Then the air defense personnel should be involved in this.

[Dzot]

Quote: Souchastnik

Let's leave to define goals and assess effectiveness to rocket specialists. But there are situations when it is necessary to use any available means.

Exactly ! Anything can happen, with such threats to Russia from all sides in the current trash situation in the mine.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Souchastnik

Well, it's clear from the landing on the shore. What about the enemy ships? While at anchor? Or homing heads attached?

New GOS were attached.

The servicemen of the missile formations began training to destroy surface ships. The first exercises were held in the Southern Military District. Until now, the Iskander-M missile systems (RK) have not been able to effectively engage moving targets. According to experts, new types of homing heads - optical-electronic and radar - made it possible to expand combat capabilities. The ability of missile formations to destroy sea targets will make Russian shores impregnable.

Units of the Orsha Guards Missile Brigade of the Southern Military District conducted tactical exercises with launches, including electronic, of Iskander-M missiles, Izvestia was told by the Defense Ministry. All training tasks have been completed, added in the department.

The past maneuvers are the first experience of Russian missile forces in the fight against naval targets. Until now, it was believed that the Iskander-M missile system could effectively engage only stationary targets. The fact is that the rocket was aimed not at a specific target, but at a point on the ground and flew along the given coordinates. Such a warhead can be guaranteed to destroy a headquarters, an ammunition depot or a missile silo. However, the system was not effective against ships, like other mobile objects.

Successful launches against naval targets in southern Russia may indicate that homing systems are entering the missile forces, said military expert Dmitry Kornev. Apparently, we are talking about optoelectronic and radar systems. In the first case, a visual image of the object is loaded into the rocket software, for example, a photograph of a ship. Upon arrival, the rocket literally sees the target and compares it with the loaded picture, independently adjusting its course. The radar system compares the terrain with the specified one. An object protruding above the water surface with a certain size for a rocket is also a unique relief, which it compares with data obtained earlier by reconnaissance.

https://iz.ru/775092/roman-kretcul-aleksei-ramm/iskander-stal-morskim-ubiitcei

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Souchastnik

Well, it's clear from the landing on the shore. What about the enemy ships?

The guidance system is mixed: inertial (INS) in the initial and middle flight phases and optical (OGSN) in the final flight segment, hitting accuracy 5-7 m. It is possible to use GLONASS in addition to the INS. There are several modifications of the missile, differing in the warhead and telemetry. Missiles in flight can receive new target coordinates by radio remotely, which allows you to hit moving targets (including ships).

Optical GOS 9B918 manufactured by NPP "Radar mms" is infrared and allows you to find the coordinates of the target by landmarks on the ground even on a moonless night. The advantage of the optical seeker is its resistance to the enemy's use of electronic warfare equipment to suppress satellite navigation signals or radio commands.

[Imperial Technocrat]

Iskander has the same optical homing head as Dagger - so Iskander has no problems with firing at moving sea targets (ships). Surprised that it's a secret for someone

Another thing is that it is quite expensive to shoot Iskander at ships, and there are more long-range missiles (X-22, X-32, Dagger, soon Zircon, etc.), but in principle there is such an opportunity

[Dikson]

This news is just a hint to the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Navy and other comrades who have recently been talking too much about the storming of Crimea .. Well, I also remembered something about the article about the lightning seizure of the Kuriles by the Japanese .... not in the horse feed ...

[Well done]

The article raised more questions than answers. (the same, judging by the comments)

[1976AG]

Quote: Welldone

The article raised more questions than answers. (the same, judging by the comments)

Well, the article itself was born on the basis of information from incomprehensible sources in the MO. Nobody knows what these sources are and whether they are competent.

[7,62x54]

The main thing is that the landing force would be smashed even at the quay wall, without giving a chance to go to sea.

[Souchastnik]

The main thing is that the landing force would be smashed at the quay

Then they will say that bloodthirsty Russia again destroyed peaceful fishermen who planned to go out to sea to fish and swell

[Klingon]

Quote: Imperial Technocrat

Iskander has the same optical homing head as Dagger - so Iskander has no problems with firing at moving sea targets (ships). Surprised that it's a secret for someone

Another thing is that it is quite expensive to shoot Iskander at ships, and there are more long-range missiles (X-22, X-32, Dagger, soon Zircon, etc.), but in principle there is such an opportunity

theoretically: is it possible to throw Iskander at an aircraft carrier, perhaps?

[rocket757]

As for the ships, this is understandable, but for the landing, how? Especially when it crumbled, spread out over the squares?
You can use it, but at first there is cheaper, more effective.

[5-9]

Cassette warheads, of course, of which Iskaneder has 3 types ... Expensive, but it's not bad to have such an opportunity ...

[Zaurbek]

And this means that a new rocket has appeared with a seeker and correction similar to the Dagger rocket

[viktor_ui]

Does Iskander know how to work with actively moving groups of ships?

[Zaurbek]

Cases in the CU .... and in the GOS.

[Beby]

Quote: viktor_ui

Does Iskander know how to work with actively moving groups of ships?

If you use a ballistic missile with a SBC against the UDC, then I think that with normal target designation the UDC will be disabled, even with active maneuvering ... Well, at the same time, it will cripple all the small fry that will swim and spin around the UDC.
Yes, using SBCs near your border is not a good idea, but the needs are different, especially in wartime.

[SVD68]

Quote: Beby

If you use a ballistic missile

Iskander's missile is not ballistic. It starts off as ballistic, but flies through the final section as if it were controlled. Therefore, its trajectory is called quasi-ballistic.

[Beby]

Thank you for clarification.

[Karaul73]

Quote: svp67

Quote: 1976AG

And it is easier, more logical and cheaper to build more DBKs.

But this does not mean that only they should be used to destroy the enemy landing forces, especially since the Iskander will have more power. To strike with Iskander, upset the marching order, and then finish off individual ships with Ballami and Bastion

Or maybe Iskander strike a moving target? Who in the subject tell me.

[Old26]

OTRK deployed in the Kuban conducted electronic missile launches during a tactical exercise to repel the seizure of the Black Sea coast. During the firing, the OTRK crews conditionally destroyed the amphibious assault and military equipment landed on the shore from the ships.

Quote: 1976AG

And what is the need for this? Are we missing DBK? This is their job. Why sparrows from a cannon?

There are not many of them. On the same Black Sea, EMNIP has only 2 brigades, and the coastline has a significant length

Quote: svp67

To strike with Iskander, upset the marching order, and then finish off individual ships with Ballami and Bastion

Here is where the doubt. I understand that if the Iskander strike is carried out on ships releasing assault forces, that is, essentially stationary targets. But the order on the go - doubts about the expediency

Quote: Prahlad

They sent a lot to Libya, Syria, etc., So we close the holes with what we can

And what, the brigades of the BRK on the same Black Sea have ceased to exist ??

Quote: Imperial Technocrat

Tochka doesn't seem to have a seeker, but Iskander does. You can't walk around the ship from the Tochka. Is that standing))

1. "Point" is gone. All brigades equipped with "Tochki" have already been rearmed with "Iskander"
2. On the going ship "Iskander" is also not shy.

Quote: URAL72

It's simple. The dagger developed on the basis of Iskander was just positioned as an anti-ship, which means it has a new guidance system. So why not implement it on Iskander's progenitor? She's already there. At the same time, modernize the complex. The advantage of Iskander over the DBK is its trajectory and speed, it is more difficult to shoot it down than even Bastion, not to mention the Bal.

Why is such a guidance system needed on an OTRK with an OFGCH or with a KBC? Now they want to raise a special case to the rank of "obligatory"?

Quote: Imperial Technocrat

From the very beginning there were and are optical guidance heads. Just like on the Dagger

And what will this optical seeker on "Iskander" give when firing at the order of landing ships on the move ?? Do not forget that Iskander has an integral warhead

Quote: viktor_ui

Does Iskander know how to work with actively moving groups of ships?

Of course no

Quote: Zaurbek

Cases in the CU .... and in the GOS.

And the point is how far relative to the "point of fall" the ship will be, its speed and direction of movement

[Anchonsha]

Well, apparently, the Defense Ministry considered it necessary to involve the Iskandars to protect the country's coast. Nevertheless, we began to use missiles precisely with pinpoint strikes due to obtaining more accurate coordinates for their use.

[Vladimir1155]

well balanced decision

[Kaw]

As far as I understand, such missiles can only fire at stationary targets.

[Laksamana besar]

No, depending on the modification, missiles can also hit moving targets (ships as well) by receiving new coordinates by radio.

[Old26]

Quote: svp67

There used to be separate Tochk-U missile divisions in motorized rifle and tank divisions, I fully admit the return of these divisions to land formations, but armed with Iskander

Now this does not exist and is unlikely to be planned. Missile formations were transferred to a brigade base.
Iskander brigade as part of the army. The maximum that can happen, and the army deployed not 1, but 2 Iskander brigades

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: 1976AG

The GPV 2011-2020 provided only for the rearmament of 10 brigades from "Tochki" to "Iskander"

19.03.20/30/XNUMX "Izvesti" I published an interview with the Commander of the Southern Military District of the g / p A. Dvornikov, in which he said that the RV SV already had XNUMX missile brigades re-equipped with Iskander-M missiles with a full range of stealth missiles and onboard electronic warfare systems (overcoming PRO).
The last - 464 RakBR, Znamensk, Astrakhan region.

I must disappoint you, Alexander, but the information in Izvestia is a linden-tree. I do not know who is guilty of this unfair information, it is hardly the commander of the Southern Military District. Most likely these are "kooks" of Izvestia itself. Indeed, the 464 missile brigade is the last to be deployed. But the point is that it is not THIRTY, Thirteenth connection with Iskander missiles.

Below is a list of connections with Iskander OTRK (in order of re-equipment)

1. 630th separate missile division of the 60th PPI (Znamensk), Kapustin Yar training ground;
2. 26th Missile Brigade (Luga)
3. 107th Missile Brigade (Birobidzhan)
4st Guards Missile Brigade (Goryachy Klyuch)
5th Guards Missile Brigade (Shuya)
6.The 92nd Missile Brigade (Totskoye village)
7rd Missile Brigade (Ulan-Ude)
8. 12th Missile Brigade (Mozdok)
9th Guards Missile Brigade (Ussuriysk)
10. 119th Missile Brigade (Elansky town)
11rd missile brigade (gt. Gorny / Chita 3)
12. 152nd Guards Missile Brigade (Chernyakhovsk)
13 rocket brigade (Znamensk)

[blackies]

Ministry of Defense:
November - 17: development of the Iskander-M crew in the ZVO on the KapYar, training of the division. Until the end of 2017 - interceding on combat duty.
February 4, 2018 - shooting at KapYar
November 22, 2019 - handover of the Iskander-M brigade kit to the ZVO on the KapYar.
13th set (464th brigade of the Southern Military District) transferred to the troops at the end of January 2020
in the ZVO - "14th" set? or add. division into existing brigades?

[blackies]

maybe this is the 152nd brigade of Chernyakhovsk?

[aszzz888]

Iskander-M operational-tactical missile systems (OTRK) will be used to strike at amphibious assault forces and ships of a potential enemy

adversary will not seem a little!

[blackies]

Iskanders "hit" naval targets in Syria back in 2016, and the 1st Guards brigade from Molkino - in 2018

[Old26]

Quote: Blackies

maybe this is the 152nd brigade of Chernyakhovsk?

Point 12 in my post. Chernyakhovskaya 52th brigade

Quote: Blackies

Iskanders "hit" naval targets in Syria back in 2016, and the 1st Guards brigade from Molkino - in 2018

And what naval targets were in Syria?

Quote: Laksamana Besar

No, depending on the modification, missiles can also hit moving targets (ships as well) by receiving new coordinates by radio.

One of the most common misconceptions. At one time it was planned that the Iskander complex should be part of the reconnaissance and strike complex (RUK). It was supposed to include a reconnaissance aircraft, an AWACS aircraft and, as a ground component, the Iskander complex.
The AWACS aircraft directed the reconnaissance aircraft to the area of ​​a possible target, and the latter transmitted information to the PPI of the complex. The changes were made before the launch of the rockets. There were no radio transmissions of coordinates. As far as the flight task was entered by the PPI of the complex on the ground before the start.
He, "Iskander" can hit mobile targets (ships) if they go at low speed or stand. At high speed, during the "fixation by the reconnaissance aircraft - transfer to the PPI of the complex - preparation and introduction of the missile defense system and its flight" the target can go beyond the capture zone of the seeker ...

[Old26]

Quote: svp67

The Iskander-K is equipped with not only ballistic missiles, but also the "land" Caliber, which is an excellent means of engaging ships.

In general, the "Caliber-K" complex does not exist in nature. This is an invention of journalists. There is (or rather was) the Iskander complex with the 9M723 ballistic missile and the Iskander-M complex, which is armed with not only 9M723-1 missiles, but also 9M728 cruise missiles.
The land-based "Caliber" does not currently exist either. Perhaps in the future it will be on a car chassis, but not now. Moreover, it cannot be launched from the Iskander launcher. He simply won't fit into it. A little bit, but it won't fit.

Quote: Charik

so there are long-range PKR-Onyx, Caliber-winged-maybe they are unified for the Iskander launcher

Not unified

Quote: Charik

Maximum target destruction range: 500 km Iskander-K (with the R-500 cruise missile up to 2500 km) -

So the Americans rightly accused us of violating the INF Treaty ???