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The range of the Smerch MLRS can reach 270 km. Trying to "replay" the GLSDB project

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In one of previous reviews we analyzed in detail the flight performance parameters of promising modifications of 300-mm guided missiles of the 9M528 / 9M542 line for updating the ammunition of the Smerch / Tornado-S multiple launch rocket systems, as well as the features of the operating modes of the ProNav inertial navigation units, allowing the above missiles implement a complex quasi-ballistic flight trajectory with a final sheer dive at its terminal section, which ensures confident defeat of modern enemy air defense systems at a distance of 150 km by "breaking through" into "dead craters" above the radar illumination and guidance of anti-aircraft missile systems. We also came to the conclusion that in the probable "counter-battery duels" with the rocket artillery of the NATO Joint Armed Forces, these missiles can easily outperform the American 227-mm guided missiles of the M31A1GMLRS type, the range of which barely reaches 90 km.


Prospective developments of NPO Splav and KTRV, designed to preserve the dominance of rocket artillery MFA of Russia in theaters of military operations of the XXI century


Meanwhile, it would be extremely naive to assume that the above alignment will be objective for at least 5-10 years to come, because the military-industrial complex of a potential adversary, as you know, is not at the stage of "slipping" and is quite capable of darkening the optimistic vision of the situation of our expert communities by the program of deep modernization of high-precision MLRS of the MLRS / HIMARS family.

In particular, in the first case, we are talking about a joint American-Swedish program for the development of a promising 227-mm two-stage long-range guided missile GLSDB ("Groun Launched Small Diameter Bomb"), which is a constructive hybrid of booster stages (with a solid propellant charge solid propellant rocket) of rockets of the family M26A2 / M31A1 GMLRS and an inconspicuous gliding bomb GBU-39B SDB-I. So, if the SDB-I small-sized guided aerial bomb is integrated into the head of the M31A1 guided missile, capable of "throwing" this "equipment" at a distance of 70 km thanks to a more powerful solid-propellant charge of the accelerating stage, the total range of the promising GLSDB projectile can reach 180-200 km (with the stage of "throwing" the head of the projectile onto the stratospheric marching section of the trajectory and a further 130-kilometer segment of an independent dive of the GBU-39B bomb), which is quite capable of countering the performance of the updated 9М528 and 9М542 missiles for the Smerch / Tornado MLRS family FROM".

The following question arises: do the specialists of the experimental design department of the Tula NPO Splav have at their disposal any developments that can fend off the potential of the above-described brainchild of Boeing and SAAB in the theaters of war of the XNUMXst century? Naturally, yes.

Undoubtedly, one of the most interesting options is the project of a promising ultra-long-range 300-mm guided missile with an integrated ramjet engine for updating the ammunition load of the Smerch / Tornado-S MLRS. As you know, the design features of this product were given in a demo PDF document by NPO Splav, published several years earlier on the portal promkatalog.rf. The ability to regulate the intensity of the powder charge into the ramjet combustion chamber will provide a more optimal distribution of the fuel charge to all parts of the trajectory, which will allow a promising rocket to reach a range of about 250-300 km, and, as a consequence, almost 2 times surpass the American Swedish two-stage rocket GLSDB with a range of 150+ km.

There is no need to talk about the ability of this projectile to break through modern anti-missile "umbrellas" at the moment. Indeed, firstly, this projectile will be a unitary product with a non-detachable warhead, which will exclude the possibility of reducing the effective reflecting surface (EOC) below 0,1 sq. m. In light of equipping carrier-based AWACS aircraft E-2D "Advanced Hawkeye" with advanced anti-jamming AFAR radars AN / APY-9, capable of detecting such an object at a distance of 230-250 km (in contrast to 170 km in earlier AN / APY-2 radars E-3A / C aircraft), it is not difficult to assume that the probability of bearing these projectiles with the subsequent issuance of target designation to MIM-104F PAC-3MSE interceptor missiles will be quite high. The Smerchi missiles will not be able to neutralize the maneuverability of the MIM-104F antimissiles during the breakthrough of the Patriot missile defense umbrella due to the lack of transverse control engines in the control systems of the gas-dynamic belts, which are necessary to carry out transverse anti-missile throws on the trajectory.

Secondly, the continuous discharge of a jet stream (combustion products of a solid propellant charge) from a ramjet nozzle throughout the entire flight will increase the infrared signature of this version of the upgraded 300-mm rockets by hundreds of times, turning them into excellent targets for detection by means of optoelectronic complexes with a distributed AN / AAQ-37 DAS aperture of F-35A "Lightning II" fighters operating in the medium-wave infrared range and capable of transmitting target designation to friendly ground-based air defense missile defense systems via the Link-16 tactical network radio channel (of course, after processing in weapons control systems F-35A fighters).

Therefore, the most optimal option for countering the potential of the American-Swedish GLSDB projectile may be the conceptual reverse engineering of the latter by specialists from the Tula NPO Splav and the Tactical Missile Armament Corporation JSC. In particular, we are talking about the possibility of designing a hybrid upper stage solid propellant rocket with a 300-mm rocket type 9M542 and a reduced modification of the 9-A-7759 "Thunder-1" guided tactical missile, where the latter will be integrated into the multiple reentry vehicle (MIRV) of a promising projectile and placed in a deployable heat-resistant fairing-container (with a layout a la GLSDB) in order to avoid critical aerodynamic heating of the Thunder-1 rocket fairing at the stage of high-speed passage of a promising projectile through dense layers of the troposphere and stratosphere (on the ascending branch of the trajectory). As for the aforementioned reduction in the mass and size characteristics of the Grom-1 rocket before pairing with the solid-propellant projectile unit, it is dictated by the need to bring the Grom-1 hull diameter (together with the heat-resistant fairing) to the caliber of the 9M542 rocket, which is 300 mm. It is well known that the diameter of the Grom-1 rocket body is 310 mm, while for placement in a heat-resistant fairing it should not exceed 220-240 mm.

The flight profile of a promising two-stage 300-mm rocket and the principle of the head of a part (Thunder-1 rocket) on the main trajectory will be similar to those of the American-Swedish GLSDB projectile, but with the only difference that the discharge of the heat-resistant fairing of the second stage and the beginning stage of independent flight of the rocket "Thunder-1" will take place at a distance of about 120 km from the position of the launcher MLRS "Smerch" / "Tornado-S", while the independent flight of the planning bomb GBU-39B, detached from the booster block of the GLSDB projectile begins at a distance of 30-40 km from the MLRS MLRS position.

Thus, the aggregate range of action (including the 120-kilometer segment for reaching the marching section of the trajectory and the 150-kilometer segment of independent planning of the Grom-1 guided missile) of the promising guided missile for the Smerch MLRS will approach 270 km, significantly ahead of achievements obtained during the test of the GMLRS projectile. The noticeably smaller radar signature of the Grom-1 gliding units (about 0,05 sq. M compared to 0,1 sq. M for the original non-separable unitary projectile 9М542) will significantly complicate the AWACS aircraft operators' tasks of timely detection of an approaching threat and issuing target designation to combat crews of Patriot PAC-3MSE anti-missile systems, turning the Smerch multiple launch rocket system into a unique example of offensive weapons of the XNUMXst century.
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  1. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 July 2020 06: 13 New
    +6
    It would be useful, in addition, to diversify the media. Advertised, at one time, KamAZ 8x8. With 6 guides. Cheap and, combined with ammunition correction, angry.
    1. infantryman2020
      infantryman2020 22 July 2020 06: 47 New
      +5
      Also, it would be useful, at the same time, to implement (across the entire park, and not piecemeal):
      - automated guidance;
      - integration into ESU TK (with all that it implies);
      - batch recharge;
      - modern base chassis (with modern power plant).
      It would also be nice to minimize the MLRS "zoo" similar to the MLRS / HIMARS park.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 July 2020 06: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: infantryman2020
        It would also be nice to minimize the MLRS "zoo" similar to the MLRS / HIMARS park.

        laughing
        To abandon the MLRS altogether, like, breathlessly, the Americans?
        Good offer ....
        1. Vestnik
          Vestnik 22 July 2020 18: 48 New
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Quote: infantryman2020
          It would also be nice to minimize the MLRS "zoo" similar to the MLRS / HIMARS park.

          laughing
          To abandon the MLRS altogether, like, breathlessly, the Americans?
          Good offer ....

          With such subtle proposals, I remember the collapse of the Army and the Navy at the end of the 80s .. negative
          You are right Lopatov, they are again beginning to subtly hint, and not whether we should cut something .. and raise pensions for pensioners)))
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 22 July 2020 08: 46 New
        +3
        As I understand it, guidance and topography are done and so when upgrading. and on the chassis we are tied to the MZKT. BAZ and Kamaz will not pull such a kit. Taking into account all the new guidance and guided missiles, vehicles with 6 pipes are quite relevant.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 22 July 2020 09: 22 New
          +3
          Quote: Zaurbek
          As I understand it, guidance and topography are done and so when upgrading

          "Uragan-1M" compares favorably with "Smerch" and "Tornado-S" by the presence of replaceable TPK and bicaliberity.
          This speeds up loading and allows you to save money by not using expensive guided ammunition for the "Tornado" where you can do without them.

          Quote: Zaurbek
          Taking into account all the new guidance and guided missiles, vehicles with 6 pipes are quite relevant.

          But "Kama" does not give any special advantages.
          1. venik
            venik 22 July 2020 11: 15 New
            +3
            Quote: Spade
            "Uragan-1M" compares favorably with "Smerch" and "Tornado-S" by the presence of replaceable TPK and bicaliberity.
            This speeds up loading and allows you to save money by not using expensive guided ammunition for the "Tornado" where you can do without them.

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            good You can't argue with that! But alas, information slipped through that they decided to abandon 220-mm shells (with the aim of the same notorious unification). It seems to me personally erroneous solution: after all, 220-mm ammunition has three times heavier warhead than 122-mm shells, and given that Uragan-1M carries 2 containers of 15 shells each, it is clear that the salvo of ONE vehicle is more than twice as powerful salvo of one installation "Grad" / "Tornado-G"!
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 22 July 2020 11: 20 New
              +3
              Quote: venik
              You can't argue with that! But alas, information slipped through that they decided to abandon 220-mm shells (with the aim of the same notorious unification).

              This is outdated information.
              Such a refusal took place under Serdyukov. However, as I have already written, the Alloy management continued to work with this caliber on an initiative basis.

              For one should not forget that "hurricane" conventional PCs, and even the very first PCs for "Smerch" were controlled on OUT and had ANN in their composition. What is the reason for the fact that "tornadoes" are significantly superior in cost

              I agree that rearmament is actually not carried out, they "save", preferring to spend money on more important things like organizing "international army games." However, there is a fundamental decision for sure.
              1. venik
                venik 22 July 2020 12: 00 New
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                Quote: Spade
                This is outdated information.
                Such a refusal took place under Serdyukov. However, as I have already written, the Alloy management continued to work with this caliber on an initiative basis.

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                The fact of the matter is that I read this (about the abandonment of the 220-mm caliber) quite recently - either in late spring or early summer ... And this extremely surprised and worried me. Well, let's hope it's not!
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                Quote: Spade
                For one should not forget that "hurricane" conventional PCs, and even the very first PCs for "Smerch" were controlled on OUT and had ANN in their composition. What is the reason for the fact that "tornadoes" are significantly superior in cost

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                I am aware that both in our country and in the states, studies have been carried out that have shown that firing at a range of more than 40 km with conventional RS is ineffective due to excessive dispersion of shells. After that, work began on the "Smerch" with a flight correction system.
                In general, an interesting tendency is noticeable: MLRS (primarily of medium and large caliber), more and more "merge" with OTRK - both in terms of their capabilities and performance characteristics, and in terms of cost. Maybe I'm wrong ...
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 22 July 2020 14: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: venik
                  In general, an interesting tendency is noticeable: MLRS (primarily of medium and large caliber), more and more "merge" with OTRK - both in terms of their capabilities and performance characteristics, and in terms of cost. Maybe I'm wrong ...

                  MLRS do not require such precision.
                  Here, in theory, a paradox arises. With PCs that must be controlled to reduce dispersion in a salvo. But at the same time, they do not have to be high-precision ammunition, because VD is at the level of art. a projectile somewhere in the region of 30-50 for them is quite a normal option when firing at long ranges.

                  Quote: venik
                  The fact of the matter is that I read this (about the abandonment of the 220-mm caliber) quite recently - either in late spring or early summer ... And this extremely surprised and worried me.

                  Maybe they're playing pranks again. I will not be surprised at anything.
          2. Alien ...
            Alien ... 22 July 2020 20: 03 New
            -1
            Look how I spoke. In the topic about Tosochka, he pushed himself away from replaceable TPKs, like the devil from incense. And then I remembered. Even about the acceleration of loading. Gee ...
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 22 July 2020 20: 13 New
              +3
              Quote: Alien ...
              Look how I spoke. In the topic about Tosochka, he pushed himself away from replaceable TPKs, like the devil from incense. And then I remembered. Even about the acceleration of loading. Gee ...

              Precisely "shoved"?
              And you will not give an example of "pushing away" so that I do not call you a liar?
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 22 July 2020 07: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      It would be useful, in addition, to diversify the media. Advertised, at one time, KamAZ 8x8. With 6 guides. Cheap and, combined with ammunition correction, angry.

      "Cheap and angry" to saw through the available "Tornado" in "Tornado-S"
      And as a new MLRS to supply bicaliber "Uragan-1M"

      In turn, supplying a generation lagging behind and prone to overturning 9A52-4 "Smerch" (aka "Kama") is expensive and not at all angry.
      1. infantryman2020
        infantryman2020 22 July 2020 07: 46 New
        +5
        I sincerely respect your competence and carefully read your posts.
        Only one request: get rid of "soft" rudeness in posts. This is disrespect for the interlocutor.
        The dispute between "aspirants-Westernizers" and "cheap cheers-patriots" is endless and unconstructive.
        On some questions I am far from you. For some - you are up to me.
        Yes, and I'm not a "paid forum user".
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 22 July 2020 09: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: infantryman2020
          Only one request: get rid of "soft" rudeness in posts. This is disrespect for the interlocutor.
          The dispute between "aspirants-Westernizers" and "cheap cheers-patriots" is endless and unconstructive.


          This is not "soft rudeness", this is "GOT".
          For this nonsense seems to have gone down in history even under Serdyukov, however, "and here it is again" (c)

          So it's better to consider it not "soft" but "full"
          1. infantryman2020
            infantryman2020 22 July 2020 13: 11 New
            +2
            I mean, full-fledged? Are you ready to answer for complete rudeness? Well, so, go to a personal, we will agree.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 22 July 2020 14: 06 New
              -1
              Quote: infantryman2020
              Well, so, go to a personal, we will agree.

              Boxing by correspondence? laughing laughing laughing
              Not interested.
              1. infantryman2020
                infantryman2020 22 July 2020 14: 21 New
                +1
                Pricked, or what? No, it was understood that not by correspondence.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 22 July 2020 14: 33 New
                  +1
                  Quote: infantryman2020
                  No, it was understood that not by correspondence.

                  I definitely won't go laughing laughing laughing
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 22 July 2020 09: 32 New
          +3
          Damn, the Americans have rocket launchers only at the level of divisional artillery brigades.
          We have them starting from the level of motorized rifle brigades and ending with the RGK.

          Is it really not clear that if there is one car and one caliber, it will be redundant at the "lower" levels, and insufficient at the "upper" levels.

          And not speculative. The greater the maximum range for the missile, the greater and the minimum. And, for example, "Hurricanes" in order to hit the "front end" will have to be dragged to the rear for 8 kilometers

          Even Serdyukov realized this, and Tornado-S and Tornado-G appeared instead of one Tornado machine. True, and here he messed up, abandoning the 220 caliber. Thanks to the management of "Splav" that they were more adequate and continued to work on their own money. As a result, "Hurricane-1M" appeared
          1. venik
            venik 22 July 2020 11: 39 New
            -1
            Quote: Spade
            Damn, the Americans have rocket launchers only at the level of divisional artillery brigades.
            We have them starting from the level of motorized rifle brigades and ending with the RGK.

            Is it really not clear that if there is one car and one caliber, it will be redundant at the "lower" levels, and insufficient at the "upper" levels.

            =========
            Well, just not everyone can understand and accept that the Ground Forces of the United States and the Russian Federation have DIFFERENT goals and objectives, respectively, different strategies and tactics, and as a result, absolutely different organizational and staff structure. Naturally, the requirements for weapons are also very different. What is good for Americans is often (with a few exceptions) to us. DOES NOT FIT (sometimes from the word - AT ALL) and vice versa!
            The same applies to MLRS - in the American army - their role and importance is much less than in the Soviet / Russian, the range of tasks performed - much narrower and in the organizational structure they occupy an extremely low niche! With us - it's the opposite! Therefore, the transition to some SINGLE caliber for us is IMPOSSIBLE! drinks
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 22 July 2020 11: 45 New
              +1
              They generally have artillery in the corral.
              For they have always relied on aviation.
              We cannot afford an army aviation brigade for a motorized rifle division. They are, yes.

              Therefore, the states are fundamentally different, and also have their own special troubles. The same 105-mm howitzers, or the low-mobility M777, not capable of counter-fire maneuvers. But you can transport them by helicopter ...

              Only the "heavy" ones on the "Bradley" are not required to provide the opportunity to participate in helicopter tactics. landings. For the infantry and the Stryker, there are such requirements with all the consequences.
  2. Fedorov
    Fedorov 22 July 2020 06: 16 New
    0
    Damesev special, no words. It's time to create a site on the topic. And then not everyone is so smart here.
  3. Tugarin
    Tugarin 22 July 2020 06: 42 New
    +9
    Evgeny, since you are proposing to combine the 9M542 rocket and a modification of the Thunder-1 rocket, you should send such a project to the Tula NPO Splav, and not here. Then they will create it faster.
  4. Lopatov
    Lopatov 22 July 2020 06: 54 New
    +3
    Damn, they've been toying with some kind of fierce oddity lately. Trying to create a semblance of "Iskander" out of MLRS. Apparently, the award to effective managers turned their heads

    Let me remind you that we (and this is open data) have only one brigade of "Tornadoes" and one "Tornado-S". As well as two brigades and two separate divisions of "Hurricanes", which can be re-equipped with "Uragan-1M"
    And that's all.
    And 13 (thirteen) missile brigades equipped with Iskander

    And they are fucking Americans kopsleyut. They even try to teach "Tornado" to use anti-aircraft missiles
    1. chenia
      chenia 22 July 2020 08: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Spade
      And all


      And in the divisions?
      There is something separate. In my time, ReADN was put into the Artillery regiment, and the rocket regiment was removed altogether. They wanted to shove the tornado, but it remained in the formations of the RGK.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 July 2020 09: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: chenia
        And in the divisions?

        And at the level of brigades and divisions "Grady" and "Tornado-G".
        1. chenia
          chenia 22 July 2020 09: 21 New
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Tornado-G ".


          Tornado -G - yes, but the Grad was no longer separate.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 22 July 2020 09: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: chenia
            Tornado -G - yes, but the Grad was no longer separate.

            In what sense?
            Separate jet divisions of motorized rifle brigades, jet divisions of artillery regiments and a few jet batteries of motorized rifle regiments
            Used "Grads", partially replaced by "Tornado-G"
            1. chenia
              chenia 22 July 2020 09: 55 New
              0
              Quote: Spade
              Separate jet divisions of motorized rifle brigades, jet divisions of artillery regiments and a few jet batteries of motorized rifle regiments


              In my time, MSD was the basis. And a separate READN ceased to exist (as a separate one naturally) in 83-84. And individual batteries (Grad-1) were only in individual SMEs.
              Then (a little later) the divisional OIPTADN was gouged, and in order not to be lost, they threw a T-12 battery at the MRP to the ATGM battler (and there the PT division appeared). The missile division was dispersed.
              and wanted instead of him and OREADNA tornado shove. Well, this is all at the level of assumptions and experiments.
              1. Private-K
                Private-K 23 July 2020 16: 25 New
                +1
                Quote: chenia
                In my time

                Divisional READNs were deprived of their tactical number and were introduced into divisional artillery regiments as conventional artillery. (The very existence of the separate real estate was a legacy of the 1940s, when "guards mortars", for some reason, were given a special status.) ordering / standardization took place.
                Divisional dep. IPTAD was only in the Ministry of Internal Affairs - they were not in the TD. Nobody disbanded it and there were no plans to exclude the OIPTADN from the Ministry of Internal Affairs. This is where you are wrong. If in some division he was reduced to zero, it was due to a lack of l / s, he was on paper, he was a commander, officers were assigned from the reserve, military and military equipment were in warehouses.
                SMEs necessarily had in their composition either PTbatr or PTDN. As part of the anti-tank guns of the SMP, there were necessarily both anti-tank vehicles (variations of the T-12, BS-3, etc.) and self-propelled anti-tank systems.
                In general, in the SA, starting in 1944, a clear system was adopted that provided for the presence of an anti-tank reserve at all levels: regiment-division-army-front.

                Units with MLRS "Smerch" NEVER planned and could not plan to "release" this in the division. But MLRS Hurricane - yes, it was in rare special cases.

                Dept. the missile divisions of the divisions were not dispersed, but collected in a department. missile brigades - if they managed to get the Tochka TRK. Only those who had an outdated creepy Luna dispenser with an uncontrollable NUR with a nuclear warhead were dispersed. And they did everything right.
                1. chenia
                  chenia 23 July 2020 17: 39 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Private-K
                  Divisional dep. IPTAD was only in the Ministry of Internal Affairs - they were not in the TD.


                  I know. As was not the case, the ATGM Batt in the TP. And until 83-84 and ADN in the TP was absent.

                  Quote: Private-K
                  and no plans to eliminate oiptadn


                  NO, I meant getting rid of the T-12, they wanted to switch to ATGM. and tried to shove the materiel in the SME to the batr. ATGM, organizing the SME PT division. It was semi-experimental, and at the end of the Union (organizationally, they had not yet decided).

                  Quote: Private-K
                  Units with MLRS "Smerch" NEVER planned and could not plan this


                  Definitely, I was mistaken thinking about the Hurricane, wrote down the Tornado. (old however 65 years old, it happens)
    2. Private-K
      Private-K 23 July 2020 16: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Spade
      And 13 (thirteen) missile brigades equipped with Iskander

      I myself wanted to mention this unfortunate, for some, fact.
      The Russian Army has something that no NATO country has - OTRK. Yes, and such an advanced one as Iskander, who covers everyone else with a bull.
      And let the MLRS remain the MLRS. They are so, de facto, "multipurpose missile systems capable of firing salvo fire."
  5. strannik1985
    strannik1985 22 July 2020 07: 46 New
    0
    By God, it would be better if the production of turbojet projectiles was restored.
  6. Maxim364364
    Maxim364364 22 July 2020 09: 10 New
    +3
    Ha, yes, a salvo of even one installation of 12 missiles in ideal conditions is not a trivial task for interception, and if three installations of 12 each will not save any patriot with fighters, there will not be enough missiles or time to intercept, especially considering that the probability of interception is not equal to 1 And if one of the missiles in the first third of the salvo is charged with the jamming complex, then there are no options at all.
  7. Miron
    Miron 22 July 2020 12: 39 New
    +1
    The wildest nonsense.
    Katyusha has always fired at a flat trajectory, and the use of intelligent blocks only reduces the payload of these devices.
    They must hit targets due to the honed execution of the car and minimal piloting controls, giving the entire weight of the car for fuel and payload.
    Thus, delivery at hypersonic speed (presumably 5-6 speeds of sound) at a height of 5 meters from the ground will be carried out in 200 seconds at a maximum range of 300 km.
    During this time, the enemy's air defense / missile defense systems are not able to leave the territory, and the enemy interceptors, unless warned by traitors and scouts embedded in the Red Army, will not be able to react.
    The defeat of means of the Palantin type, shooting up to 90 km, will occur in 60 seconds. When driving over rough terrain, these vehicles will be able to move no more than 50 meters. That is, when using tactical nuclear warheads, the defeat is guaranteed 100%.
    1. kind
      kind 22 July 2020 13: 24 New
      +1
      The division fires 192 RS with a variable rate of fire, the flight time is short and does not allow the enemy to react. Therefore, the project is eligible for implementation.
  8. kind
    kind 22 July 2020 13: 17 New
    +1
    It turns out an operational-tactical complex. In flight, missiles need to be adjusted. At present, the task is feasible.
  9. jekasimf
    jekasimf 22 July 2020 13: 50 New
    +2
    The meaning of any MLRS, and the main difference from a rocket, is in its low cost and, as a consequence, the use of a large amount of supplies when hitting "areas." By creating high-precision long-range ammunition, the main advantage of MLRS is completely eliminated - cheapness. Sometimes it is cheaper and much more effective to suppress enemy air defenses with 30 cheap supplies than with two or three, but expensive ones, with a guidance system. Increase the range, yes. It makes sense. Try to increase the accuracy, too, but without a guidance head.
  10. staer-62
    staer-62 22 July 2020 14: 33 New
    +1
    Interestingly, do commentators know that every change in concept leads to the closure of production, dismissal of personnel, loss of technology in production? I survived both the Hurricane and the Tornado.
  11. Operator
    Operator 22 July 2020 17: 57 New
    -1
    All types of gliding ammunition are nothing compared to a detachable guided missile warhead, since the former are knocked out "from a slingshot" (short-range anti-aircraft missiles) during a direct approach to the target.

    The same applies to the ramjet engine - long-term operation of such an engine illuminates the RS in flight, in contrast to the traditional accelerating solid propellant rocket, which operates a few seconds after the launch of the RS.
  12. Tom Johnson
    Tom Johnson 22 July 2020 19: 01 New
    -1
    GLSDB? you should be more concerned with PrSM, contract was signed last week to upgrade the M270 launchers.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 24 July 2020 00: 02 New
      0
      If you addressed me personally, thank you, read it. But in general, fluent English speakers are in the minority, so use Russian, if only out of respect for the majority.
  13. And Makarov
    And Makarov 22 July 2020 21: 48 New
    14
    Better to develop from scratch and not on the basis of "Thunder-1"
  14. Revolver
    Revolver 23 July 2020 23: 50 New
    -1
    The fact that the Russian Federation has such things is good. It is always useful to cool the ardor of the galloping "liberators" of Crimea and Donbass. And the sale of conditional India or Egypt is also normal. But if it is sold to Iran, then sooner rather than later it will fall into the hands of terrorist gangs.
  15. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 24 July 2020 13: 27 New
    0
    It is not clear only, why limit yourself to the specific dimensions of the tornado rocket?
  16. shinobi
    shinobi 25 July 2020 01: 35 New
    0
    MDE.RSZO from a cheap non-nuclear weapons of mass destruction is gradually turning into another type of OTRK. Caliber 270-300mm already allows you to cram tactical nuclear weapons.
  17. Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 25 July 2020 02: 39 New
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    Didn't even finish reading. What the hell? To shoot down a RSZO do you need to have a Drlo and a few lights in the air? Amers don't even paint paper with green paint.
  18. Maki maki
    Maki maki 30 July 2020 23: 05 New
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    It is necessary to develop a warhead with submunitions of the western GBU-39 type
  19. Eirik Krause
    Eirik Krause 3 August 2020 07: 13 New
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    Fine, I hope it will be equipped with tactical nuclear warheads?