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Full alert or spitting in the face of the defenders of the Donbass?

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Ritual dances



The pompous and loud statements of Lugansk and Donetsk about their readiness not only to fully respond to enemy provocations and attacks, but also to move the line of demarcation away from the cities and villages of the LDNR were predictably replaced by ritual diplomatic messages to Zelensky, whom the LDNR authorities are now again and again humbly asking to be prudent and start abiding by the Minsk agreements. Zelensky does not respond to dispatches, criminally ignoring peace appeals, and at this time the Ukrainian army continues to consistently and methodically destroy the strongholds of the people's militia and even trains to conduct military operations in urban areas.

Unfortunately, the full-fledged "otvetka" promised by the authorities and the suppression of enemy activity remained only words. After a short “thaw” at the front line, the defenders of Donbass are again more and more often forbidden to use large calibers to strike at the APU. I don’t want to believe in it, but mass messages from military commissars and ordinary soldiers cannot be ignored. Yes, some attempts to respond to the attacks of the Ukrainian military are being made, but they are disproportionate to the attacks that the APU is delivering. As well as losses in personnel and equipment.

As a result, instead of a spirit-raising decree on increased combat readiness and a qualitative change in the situation at the front and forcing Ukraine to peace, we see only ritual dances, especially touching against the background of constant shelling and amazing blindness of the official press service of the LDNR NM and representatives of the republics in the JCCC (Joint Control Center and coordination of a ceasefire and stabilization of the situation in the South-East of Ukraine), easily able to not see the shelling or see a regular shootout instead of an artillery strike.

In the name of what?


The main question: why all these big words and obscure gestures, so much annoying the fighters of the people's police? Yes, the situation with the ban on "otvetku" - no longer news, and everyone who enlisted in the orderly ranks of NM LDNR initially knows what he’s going to. However, such jerks, when people are reassured only in order to deceive their hopes in a few weeks, clearly do not increase morale or discipline. What did the heads of the LPR and DPR achieve in the end, apart from another slap in the face to all those who long for a war with the enemy, and not demonstrate solo compliance with the Minsk agreements that never worked?

Even if it was an initiative launched from above, is it not possible (at least instead of pouting your cheeks) to make it clear what is really happening and what to expect from all this rattling weapons? Unfortunately, openness is clearly not the fad of the republican authorities. It is much easier to blow up public consciousness by replicating conflicting statements and decrees.

Who will fight tomorrow?


The number of personnel in NM LDNR seriously falls short of the declared, and against the backdrop of such events, it becomes obvious that in the foreseeable future the number of people wishing to join the people's police will decrease. Those who are already firmly entrenched in the war and cannot imagine life without it, one after another leave this world, get seriously wounded or leave, unable to withstand the quirks of command. Those who go to war from hopelessness are unlikely to be highly combat-ready. The number of volunteers from Russia in recent years has seriously decreased and will grow exclusively in the event of full-fledged hostilities in which the defenders of the Donbass will take part not only as unrequited targets.

With such an attitude, such successes and such losses, the next question may become relevant in the coming years: who should be sent to the front line or where to get people to equip amusing rear regiments?
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  1. Asad
    Asad 5 July 2020 05: 36
    33
    Groundhog Day! Maybe it's time for Russia to spit on the west and mattresses and use force? Sanctions will not be lifted by anyone;
    1. raw174
      raw174 5 July 2020 06: 34
      29 th
      Quote: ASAD
      Maybe it's time for Russia to spit on the west and mattresses and use force?

      And the main question - why? What is it for Russia?
      1. Asad
        Asad 5 July 2020 07: 26
        34
        Then why in 2014 did they support it? Responsibility must be respected!
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 5 July 2020 09: 01
          29 th
          Quote: ASAD
          Then why in 2014 did they support it?

          Who supported?
          Putin asked not to hold a referendum and continue to resolve the issue peacefully. Didn’t want or someone suggested that they would create problems including and for Russia ...

          1. Asad
            Asad 5 July 2020 09: 54
            10
            Found someone to believe!
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 5 July 2020 10: 08
              24 th
              Quote: ASAD
              Found someone to believe!

              And 78% like me, but how many of yours are there? laughing
              1. Asad
                Asad 5 July 2020 10: 11
                +8
                Putin should not have believed, partners, and 78 percent?
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 5 July 2020 10: 13
                  12 th
                  Quote: ASAD
                  Putin should not have believed, partners, and 78 percent?

                  At this level, such concepts as "I do not believe" are absent.
                  1. Asad
                    Asad 5 July 2020 10: 21
                    +6
                    So ,, partners ,, threw. Cheated?
              2. Observer2014
                Observer2014 5 July 2020 11: 09
                +8
                Quote: Boris55
                Quote: ASAD
                Found someone to believe!

                And 78% like me, but how many of yours are there? laughing

                Such as you, like a cat, cried from 78% of Russians who voted. We scooped up for a whole week as they could. Including staggering like Jehovah's Witnesses in the yards of the sleeping areas of Russian cities. Plus, without a control vote via the Internet. Well, how many like you?
                1. Voyager
                  Voyager 9 July 2020 20: 24
                  +1
                  Learn to recognize the obvious. These percentages are similar to the results of all major polls on the course of the country following in recent years. What day, what week, what the Internet, what full-time - the essence does not change.
              3. Karabin
                Karabin 5 July 2020 14: 11
                19
                Quote: Boris55
                And people like me 78%,

                146%. Do not be shy.
              4. Left shot
                Left shot 7 July 2020 15: 27
                0
                Look at the cons and welcome to reality, bot. Or have you already believed in the figures drawn by swindlers in power?
                1. Voyager
                  Voyager 9 July 2020 20: 27
                  0
                  Why should the authorities draw something when the majority has already adopted the amendments? And your argument in the form of a couple of dozens of drawbacks drawn by someone unclear is generally laughter.
          2. Larisa Byvsheva_3
            Larisa Byvsheva_3 8 July 2020 08: 51
            +3
            What peacefully did your Putin offer ?! We went to the referendum in May, and the shelling and bombing of the WCT began in early April! Where were there peaceful ways? !!!
      2. 1976AG
        1976AG 5 July 2020 10: 17
        +3
        Quote: raw174
        Quote: ASAD
        Maybe it's time for Russia to spit on the west and mattresses and use force?

        And the main question - why? What is it for Russia?

        In order to push the Nazis from our borders.
        1. Asad
          Asad 5 July 2020 10: 38
          -1
          Not too big a price? Given the suffering of millions!
      3. Observer2014
        Observer2014 5 July 2020 11: 13
        14
        Quote: raw174
        Quote: ASAD
        Maybe it's time for Russia to spit on the west and mattresses and use force?

        And the main question - why? What is it for Russia?

        I feel ashamed in front of the people of the people of Donbass. Or are you not familiar with this feeling?
        1. raw174
          raw174 5 July 2020 17: 39
          -8
          Quote: Observer2014
          I feel ashamed in front of the people of the people of Donbass. Or are you not familiar with this feeling?

          Yes, I know the feeling of shame, but it has nothing to do with it, it’s politics, and in politics there is no place for pity and compassion, you can take people to yourself, please.
          1. bayard
            bayard 5 July 2020 23: 26
            +5
            What kind of people are you ready to accept?
            To your cottage?
            How much?
            And provide work?
            And why Russia Chechnya, for which so fought?
            Is this for sure Russia?
            Is the Don Army Region the Industrial Heart of Russia? (Lenin said yes , and it was drawn on posters), it turns out ... not Russia?
            In Syria and Libya, Russia is fighting for whose interest?
            "this is politics, and in politics there is no place for pity and compassion ..." stop
            I don’t know who you think you are, but HERE - in the Donbass, Russian people have been fighting for their right to remain Russian for more than six years.
            Quote: raw174
            Yes, I know the feeling of shame

            Probably seen in the movie, or read in a book? No.
            What, besides a passport with citizenship, have you proved your belonging to Russia?
            And who are you to scatter native Russian lands?
            And the Russian people?
            Quote: raw174
            this is politics, and in politics there is no place for pity and compassion,

            This is not politics, this is treason.
            In any case, on your part.
            ... But you certainly do not agree with this ...
            1. raw174
              raw174 6 July 2020 21: 34
              -6
              Quote: bayard
              What kind of people are you ready to accept?
              To your cottage?
              How much?
              And provide work?
              And why Russia Chechnya, for which so fought?
              Is this for sure Russia?

              Am I personally? No, this is a state affair; there are programs for refugees and immigrants. In our village they gave an apartment to a family from near Lugansk. Chechnya is part of the Russian Federation, but there is no LDNR, it is part of Ukraine. The comparison is not correct.
            2. CSKA
              CSKA 9 July 2020 13: 22
              +2
              Quote: bayard
              And why Russia Chechnya, for which so fought?
              Is this for sure Russia?

              Yes exactly. It has long been part of the composition. Would you just give the land?
              Quote: bayard
              And the Don Army Region is the Industrial Heart of Russia? (Lenin said, and it was drawn on posters), it turns out ... not Russia?

              So you are from Lenin and ask what kind of devil he is a part of Donbass who always entered the Land of the Don Don gave to the dill created by him.
              Quote: bayard
              In Syria and Libya, Russia is fighting for whose interest?

              For their geopolitical interests. And in Libya we are not at war.
          2. Thompson
            Thompson 7 July 2020 19: 11
            0
            Some Ukrainians wanted to go to Europe, what’s the problem - a suitcase, a train station, Europe! What do the others who did not want to do with it?
      4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 July 2020 12: 04
        12
        Quote: raw174
        What is it for Russia?

        Why is Russia its land and its people?
        1. raw174
          raw174 5 July 2020 17: 28
          11 th
          Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
          Why is Russia its land and its people?

          This is all the same Ukraine, whether you like it or not ... Crimea was needed from the point of view of strategy, fleet, bridgehead ... And people were given the opportunity to obtain citizenship, we are welcome.
          1. Asad
            Asad 5 July 2020 17: 43
            0
            The opportunity to die under fire? Starting from scratch in 50 years in Russia?
          2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 July 2020 20: 38
            +2
            Quote: raw174
            Ukraine

            It remains for you to fall on your back and kick your legs - repeating this statement. This will not change the reality, but maybe it will become easier for you.
          3. 1976AG
            1976AG 5 July 2020 21: 39
            +2
            Quote: raw174
            Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
            Why is Russia its land and its people?

            This is all the same Ukraine, whether you like it or not ... Crimea was needed from the point of view of strategy, fleet, bridgehead ... And people were given the opportunity to obtain citizenship, we are welcome.


            Do not confuse Crimea with Ukraine. Or do you also think that the Russians occupied the Russians?
          4. bayard
            bayard 5 July 2020 23: 37
            +3
            Ahhh, so you are one of those who are called a traitor in Ukraine, who accepted the citizenship of the Russian Federation, but remained Ukrainian?
            Come and served on the Ukrainian "fleet"?
            Quote: raw174
            (Ravil)

            Probably also in "Mezhelis" were? I knew other Tatars - Crimean by the way, who defended the independence of Crimea from Ukraine against your brother, together with the Russian people (and those who stood together with the Russians were much more than yours). And they guarded the building of the Crimean parliament all night until the arrival of the Russian special forces ...
            It is unlikely that they will share your opinion.
            But of course you do not care.
            bully
            1. raw174
              raw174 6 July 2020 21: 24
              -2
              Quote: bayard
              Are you one of those who in Ukraine is called a traitor, the one who accepted the citizenship of the Russian Federation, but remained Ukrainian?
              Come and served on the Ukrainian "fleet"?

              He served in Sevastopol, KChF. Yes, I am a Tatar, but my roots are from central Bashkiria. And regarding my attitude towards the LPNR and its protection by the Russian Federation, I understand your indignation, on human terms I am in solidarity with you, but from the point of view of politics and international relations, the official military support of the republics automatically makes the Russian Federation an aggressor that attacked a sovereign country. As a result, they are there, they will be right ... This will bring us irreparable reputational losses, the Russian Federation will immediately stand on a par with the Reich. And all for what? For the sake of "boyish" to beat yourself in the chest? Stupid ...
              1. bayard
                bayard 6 July 2020 23: 23
                +2
                Quote: raw174
                Yes, I am Tatar, but the roots are from central Bashkiria.

                Well, it means almost a fellow countryman, I come from the Chelyabinsk region. - also the Southern Urals. He graduated from school in Ukraine, studied at a military university in the Baltic states, and served in the Caucasus. Air defense.
                And the godfather of my Bashkirs.
                Quote: raw174
                official power support of the republics automatically makes the Russian Federation an aggressor that has attacked a sovereign country.

                It really was a trap for Russia at the time of 2014 - 2015. Now it’s different. Russia is a guarantor of compliance with the Minsk agreements, which Ukraine does not comply with. And never respected. And that opens a big window of opportunity.
                Modern Ukraine has not demarcated borders; the UN does not even know where it is and what configuration this state is in.
                And this state is constantly threatening Russia with war ("Crimea will return") and terrorist acts.
                In addition, the (final) solution of the "Ukrainian question" will solve a huge mountain of issues for the Russian Federation - security, industrial cooperation (including in the military-industrial complex), the capacity of the domestic market, demography, transport logistics (ports, pipelines, railway and etc.) and the most egregious question - the question of "the largest divided people in the world." Russia must return to its natural borders.
                In 2014, this did not have the strength or will. Yes, and the events started racing, when it was difficult to react to them without proper analysis, and there was no time to analyze them.
                And the conflict froze.
                And this is not only the problem of Donbass. Then people in the entire former Ukraine rose to fight against the fascist coup, Donbass was simply more fortunate - he was farthest from the center and took up his suppression later than everyone else. And some people from other regions came to Donbass to start the liberation of their country from here.
                I myself am from another region.
                And if people from all regions had not come here, maybe nothing would have happened here, and the locals could well have merged, or "dispersed for the night" as in Kharkov. But in Donetsk, only in the regional state administration there were always about 2000 people - like in a barracks. They simply had nowhere to go - they were from other cities.
                And the drain did not happen.
                And there was no (!) Organization "from above", it was really a kind of national element, which itself began to organize ... This was very unusual for people who were accustomed to political performances over the past 25 years.
                Why did people behave SO?
                Crimea .
                People suddenly believed that the reunification of a single people had really begun ...
                And there was a reason, you can’t imagine better — a fascist coup, direct, undisguised, deliberate fascism. With all its attributes, symbols, slogans, insignia and heraldry.
                Do you really think that in the rest of Ukraine everything was so simple and easy to accept IT?
                Of course not .
                On our side (morally) there was a majority of the siloviki, I'm not talking about ordinary people.
                We stopped, dissuaded people from the uprisings in the regions, because we would not be able to support (far) and they would simply have destroyed everyone. And it is not known what would happen to families.
                Donbass survived.
                With help, but withstood.
                But to go forward, growing with every step with new forces ... we were not given.
                Agreed.
                Now everything is not the same as in the distant 2014.
                The United States is in the flames of an almost civil war, a little bit more, perhaps elections, in which neither side will recognize a victory, and only little brains will remain from the "hegemon".
                Who is Russia afraid of now?
                Europe?
                This is not even funny.
                No one would dare to lift a finger against the reunification of a single people.
                Russia will never be able to solve its geostrategic issues without its revival within its former borders.
                And all the more so, they will never be able to find political and economic stability in the territories that have fallen from it.
                This is an axiom proven by time.
                And so it should be so.
              2. Thompson
                Thompson 7 July 2020 19: 17
                +1
                Do not forget to recall this Yugoslavia
                And about power support to the Americans and the whole west
                And about the Reich wrapped purely in dill !!! Just a fact
          5. Egor-dis
            Egor-dis 8 July 2020 11: 53
            +1
            Quote: raw174
            It's still Ukraine, whether you like it or not
            These are the lands of Russia, more precisely - the Russian Empire, and even more precisely - the lands of the Great Don Army, donated by Lenin to the so-called. "Ukraine" without the knowledge and consent of people living on this land. Just like, in due time, the Crimea was donated by Khrushchev. For the second time, these lands were "privatized" in 1991 (again, without the knowledge and consent of the population) from the lordly shoulder of Gorbaty and EBN. And now some Turkmen-Chinese of Romanian-Israeli origin, who was lucky enough to get a Russian passport in the territory that was not given to anyone, will tell me that "this is Ukraine."
      5. Karabin
        Karabin 5 July 2020 14: 31
        18
        Quote: raw174
        And the main question - why? What is it for Russia?

        And what is Syria for? How many military lives, equipment, resources have already been left there. Alavites are more expensive than Donetsk? Why Libya? Why duplicate the CAR peace? Why when do military communications come with the flies of the Middle East and Africa inflated with imperial pride? Why, when there are reports of shelling of the Donbass and the death of Russian people, we cover the shame with fig leaves of Ukrainian sovereignty and the Minsk agreements?
        1. raw174
          raw174 5 July 2020 17: 33
          11 th
          Quote: Karabin
          And what is Syria for? How many military lives, equipment, resources have already been left there. Alavites are more expensive than Donetsk? Why Libya? Why duplicate the CAR peace? Why when the military comes

          The struggle for control in a region rich in hydrocarbons, the struggle for influence. And about the military, it is their duty to protect not only their land, but also the interests of their country.
      6. evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
        evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 9 July 2020 13: 03
        +1
        This question, dear rav 174, had to be asked not even in 2014, but much earlier.
        Crimea Russia ,, returned ,, Donbass ,, pulled up ,,? And ALL Ukraine for a long time, lost, ... It is necessary to have very much a look at simple, obvious and sensible things in order to experience, an indescribable delight, from such an e .. a kind of foreign policy. Who apart from global Satanists can the quarrel between fraternal Slavic peoples please?
        For years, the author of this comment has been perplexed HOW POSSIBLE ,, SLEEP ,, ,, alien influence ,, if she, Ukraine, is very, very close, literally, behind the kitchen gardens, from Moscow? HOW it was necessary, to work, well-known, specialists, with well-fed, but stern faces, to ALL about ... oversleep ?! And after all, everything is good, among them, among specialists, great. Someone went on raising, someone already earned a pension (about two times as much as the infantry soldier of the NM of New Russia gets from the “trenches not crawling out”, due to them, “specialists,” fault. What needs to be ... e .. primitive, so as not to understand that it’s better to politely talk in time with 100 ,, unconscious ,, people, than later to lose 10 of your and other people's lives from your sluggishness ?! Lucky these ,, specialists ,, that there is no above them (yet?) Any ,, Lavrenty Pavlovich ,,. And then we would go, at our own expense, on vacation for a month or two, to the south, ..., to collect apricots. ,,Joke,,. Barbambia ... kirgudu.
        There is NO MEANING - this is the whole trouble. What is the meaning of the activities of the state, Capitalist Russia, on the territory of the Russian country? In addition, milking, national wealth, in addition to growing dollar super-rich. Does it make more sense? All ,, achievements ,, - in the second hundred countries of the world in world rankings ... And what ,, RK ,, can be with Ukraine and Novorossia? Export STRONG and not, sorry, ,, snot ,,
    2. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 5 July 2020 06: 37
      33
      Maybe it's time to spit on the West. But the Victory Parade showed something else. the mausoleum is draped, the Banner of Victory was carried after the tricolor, and even the shaft seemed to be made lower than the tricolor. What is this talking about? This suggests that the Kremlin is bourgeois! This is evidenced by the fate of the leaders of the resistance of Crimea and LDNR. Who was eliminated from the leadership of Crimea? Now compare with the fate of those who stood for the independence of LDNR. Is it really incomprehensible? As one politician said about popular leaders (literally), ** These people are like yeast from which the whole society can ferment! Therefore, these leaders must be disposed of in any way! ** I see? What we see in LDNR! Crimea is a project of the Kremlin and the USA, LDNR is an unexpected who needs to be eliminated! Only problem is that the situation is twofold! Support LDNR, get sanctions from non-compliance with the contract! Do not support LDNR, get distrust of the people of Russia. And now what i can do? And big money is at stake! And what is happening in LDNR today is the slow utilization of the population under the guise of help! Well, maybe someone has a different version. But why is stripping of LDNR very successful? Starting from popular leaders and ending with the population. With one hand we pretend that we are helping, and with the other hand we quietly kill !? And if the chairs are scattered? Did they bolt them to the floor?
      1. mdsr
        mdsr 5 July 2020 06: 58
        43
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        Victory Parade showed another. the mausoleum is draped, the Banner of Victory was carried after the tricolor, and even the shaft seemed to be made lower than the tricolor.

        I also noticed this during the parade. It looked somehow disgusting, mockingly
        And LDN is a pity. They all became victims of HPP. All the victims of Donbass are on his conscience. Yes, he did not kill them, but he did not prevent their killing, and does not stop to this day. Although at the very beginning of the conflict puffed up like a cockerel: let them just try! They tried it, and they were never afraid of the rotten answer. Shame on you!
        1. rotkiv04
          rotkiv04 5 July 2020 08: 33
          18
          And he is an ordinary PR man and that’s all, even in relation to the Russians, it’s enough to recall his May decrees
      2. Cambustiologist
        Cambustiologist 5 July 2020 07: 32
        17
        The fact of the matter is that the trust of the people has already been reset to zero, now do what you want and donate Donbass and raise your retirement age further.
      3. Boris55
        Boris55 5 July 2020 09: 17
        18 th
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        This suggests that the Kremlin is bourgeois!

        The Kremlin is not a bourgeois one, but the power that has been nurtured for 40 years and occupied by the 90s all the key posts of government in the state is still strong ... And for this reason, we cannot openly enter the war because they will immediately try to restore the "saints" of the 90s for them, accusing Putin of unleashing an aggressive war with all the consequences.

        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        With one hand we pretend that we are helping, and with the other hand we quietly kill !?

        One power in the person of Putin and his Minsk-2 stopped the West and the Ukrainian-controlled government from full-scale military operations.
        Another force continues to trade with this regime thereby supporting it financially.

        The adopted amendments to the Constitution will significantly weaken the second force, but they still hope that their Duma will adopt laws that neutralize all amendments ...
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 10: 03
          23
          Quote: Boris55
          The Kremlin is not a bourgeois

          Tell it Dyachenko with Raldygin. Here they are neighing.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 5 July 2020 10: 10
            19 th
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Tell it Dyachenko with Ralduev. Here they are neighing.

            Everything has its time. The turn will reach the rest.
            What a sharp reset of management leads to, we know this from the 17th and 90th.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 10: 12
              17
              Quote: Boris55
              The turn will reach the rest.

              Yeah, when they chew apples in paradise. laughing
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 5 July 2020 10: 15
                -6
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Yeah, when they chew apples in paradise.

                I doubt that he will disappear into paradise, and if they do, then there will be nothing to chew on.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 10: 18
                  12
                  Quote: Boris55
                  I doubt that he will disappear into paradise, and if they do,

                  So Putin said that they would, then they would. Eh ... How would he have not beguiled paradise with the ninth circle of hell ...
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 5 July 2020 06: 51
      26 th
      Quote: ASAD
      Maybe it's time for Russia

      What does Russia have to do with it?
      The pompous and loud statements of Lugansk and Donetsk about their readiness not only to fully respond to enemy provocations and attacks, but also to move the line of demarcation away from the cities and villages of LPR, was predictably replaced by ritual diplomatic messages to Zelensky,

      After a short “thaw” at the front line, the defenders of Donbass are again more and more often forbidden to use large calibers to strike at the APU.

      As a result, instead of a spirit-raising decree on increased combat readiness and a qualitative change in the situation at the front and forcing Ukraine to peace, we see only ritual dances, especially touching against the background of constant shelling and surprising blindness of the official press service of the LDNR NM
    4. Glenni
      Glenni 5 July 2020 07: 15
      +6
      Sir, sanctions are imposed only for the extraction of Crimea, it would be time to know. In general, it was not sanctions that threatened with a finger, not Russia itself, but on certain companies and individuals from Putin's entourage. Still to come. Want without sanctions, follow their requirements, what problems?
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 5 July 2020 10: 14
        +5
        Quote: Glenni
        Sir, sanctions are imposed only for the extraction of Crimea, it’s time to know

        ===
        sanctions for violinists, for interference in the US elections. for supporting Assad, cyberattacks and something else there. on the agenda - for the Taliban.
        1. Crash
          Crash 6 July 2020 12: 31
          +1
          Boeing forgot)
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 5 July 2020 13: 27
        +4
        Quote: Glenni
        Sir, sanctions are imposed only for the extraction of Crimea, it’s time to know. And in general it’s not sanctions, but threatened with a finger

        Sir, since 1917 both Soviet Russia] and the USSR and the Russian Federation live constantly under sanctions. So we are used to it, and we know how to bypass all these sanctions. And you are just another adherent of the USA and the West, who is trying to "scare" the site members. Do not forget that the guys from across the river, "flower beds" make their own little "zukhenweichik".
    5. Dod Income
      Dod Income 5 July 2020 07: 41
      0
      if they want to repeat Debaltseve or the airport, then let them dig a place for themselves so that later they do not stink
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 5 July 2020 08: 24
        16
        Quote: Dod Dodokhod
        if they want to repeat Debaltseve or the airport, then let them dig a place for themselves so that later they do not stink

        And what about Debaltseve and the airport?
        As time has shown, after these and other "slaps in the face, the outskirts and the Armed Forces of Ukraine (" Minskers "who were not born in Donetsk and Lugansk) were given time to wake up and improve (to the best of their ability, but still ...).
        At the moment, they again demonstrate their willingness to attack increased forces
        Where is the guarantee that "one"will not play some of his" tricky game "again?
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 5 July 2020 10: 39
          0
          Quote: Insurgent
          and other "slap in the face, outskirts and APU

          ===
          this is all past achievements, from the current, as I understand it, this is life itself in such conditions. and what are the moods, since you, judging by your reports, are from the local? people live today, or everything starts to get. does credit debit converge?
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 5 July 2020 10: 51
            +5
            Quote: Victorio
            this is all past achievements, from the current, as I understand it, this is life itself in such conditions

            Yes life recourse just hold on.
            Quote: Victorio
            what are the moods, since you, judging by yours, are locally? people live today, or everything starts to get. does credit debit converge?

            The stratification of society in assessments of what is happening and prospects is enormous. Opinions, ratings and views, many.
            Compared to the beginning, even the 18th year, the mood in assessing Russia's interests in us has become more oppressively cautious ...

            Debit-credit will start converging only when it becomes apparent Peace in the borders of the republics ...

            But, with the curators, OWN, a different plan of actionnot at all clear to us.

            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Not even a minute passed before a type completely unfamiliar to me appeared: glasses, unfriendly face; but all those present clearly knew him - and no one seemed to be delighted with him. Type pulled himself a chair and sat on the corner of the table ... "The one who was watching from Moscow was standing in front of me," I realized.

            - It is necessary to disavow everything. For half an hour, ”he said in a low, dull voice.

            - Who transmitted this? - Asked the Head.

            - handed over who needs
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 5 July 2020 14: 13
              0
              Quote: Insurgent
              Debit-credit will start converging only when it becomes apparent Peace in the borders of the republics ...

              ===
              and on what is it built, at least its public part. s / x do not sell, coal, and something else on the little things?
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 5 July 2020 16: 24
                +3
                Quote: Victorio
                and on what is it built, at least its public part. s / x do not sell, coal, and something else on the little things?

                Both agricultural and industrial products from the republics go to the Russian Federation, at least ...
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 5 July 2020 13: 40
          -3
          Quote: Insurgent
          Where are the guarantees that “someone” will not play some of his “tricky game” again?

          For all the bravura speeches and statements in the media, one can feel that the "dill water" begins to boil, and will soon splash over the edge of the pan. It is clear that someone is throwing firewood into the dying fire. Here are the words of a little "napoleon" who clearly feels the stroking of the owner.
          Ukraine will withdraw from negotiations on the Donbass if Russia does not agree to “move” the points of the Minsk agreements.
          As the correspondent of RIA "New Day" reports about this in an interview with The Guardian, President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky said.
          The leader of “Independent” said that he was giving Putin a year to think, moreover, the countdown to the ultimatum had already gone - from the previous “Norman Summit” on December 9 in Paris.
          "Time is running. The government can spend one year as a whole on the entire agreement. Then it must be implemented. We don’t have more time, ”snapped Zelensky and added that he was not going to spend his five presidential years on negotiations.

    6. Shteffan
      Shteffan 5 July 2020 10: 46
      -5
      Lose there is cho.est.you have a certain standard of living is? Is. Is there housing? Is there. Is work? is. is there life? is. is everything can be lost ...... just like that. I know better.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 6 July 2020 09: 12
        0
        Quote: Steffan
        Lose there is cho.est.you have a certain standard of living is? Is. Is there housing? Is there. Is work? is. is there life? is. is everything can be lost ...... just like that. I know better.

        About the "vision of the Kremlin", we, with the Kremlin, will "grind" yes

        After all, we don’t have such an abyss of disagreement (to put it mildly), like in Moscow and Nazi Kiev ...
        1. Shteffan
          Shteffan 6 July 2020 12: 13
          -6
          Nazi Kiev as well as Donetsk
    7. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 July 2020 13: 20
      0
      Quote: ASAD
      Sanctions will not be lifted by anyone;

      That without Donbas sanctions, that with Donbas, sanctions have been since 1917, and still have not been canceled. You can live in peace.
    8. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 5 July 2020 15: 01
      +6
      Assets there .... kids there ....
    9. pereselenec
      pereselenec 6 July 2020 11: 46
      +1
      Quote: ASAD
      Maybe it's time for Russia to spit on the west and mattresses and use force? Sanctions will not be lifted by anyone;


      How then will different kids go to the United States on vacation with their children?

    10. Woland
      Woland 6 July 2020 20: 42
      -3
      And where are the inhabitants of Donbass themselves? (Read-self-defense units) In the bushes? Well then we have nothing to do there, But if they start to fight, then we will definitely enter!
    11. Yuriy0862
      Yuriy0862 7 July 2020 14: 15
      0
      Why wave your fists? Maybe it is more intelligent to respond to their intrigues? In this case, this ... "Stupid, stupid. Stupid ... and even dumber ... there is nothing to cover! In front of the world community. But to organize a massacre today? .... or are you a provocateur? --n’t crazy ?.
  2. bald
    bald 5 July 2020 05: 55
    15
    From whom does the order not to give an answer come from ?! And so along the chain to the top of the DLNR and to recommenders from Russia. The reason - yes, my interest, both in finance and in managing processes, again reducing to dough. Unfortunately, the same applies to Russia.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 06: 10
      +7
      Quote: bald
      From whom does the order not to give an answer come?

      You would think that no one knows.
      Not even a minute passed before a type completely unfamiliar to me appeared: glasses, unfriendly face; but all those present clearly knew him - and no one seemed to be delighted with him. Type pulled himself a chair and sat on the corner of the table ... "The one who was watching from Moscow was standing in front of me," I realized.

      - It is necessary to disavow everything. For half an hour, ”he said in a low, dull voice.

      - Who transmitted this? - Asked the Head.

      “He conveyed whoever is needed,” it is routine, and as if already tired of the conversation, the beholder said; and repeated again: - We must disavow. Otherwise, there will be trouble. Everyone has
      1. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty 5 July 2020 09: 54
        0
        Where did the quote come from?
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 09: 58
          +4
          Quote: Hlavaty
          Where did the quote come from?

          Prilepin. "Some won't go to hell." Zakharchenko wanted to put him as minister in Novorossiya.
    2. Far East
      Far East 5 July 2020 06: 23
      22
      (Unfortunately, the same applies to Russia.) This is first of all! local authorities of LDNR do not decide anything.
      1. Dod Income
        Dod Income 5 July 2020 07: 45
        -3
        yesterday Dmitry Kozak left for a meeting on the format, incl. no need to be terribly catching up, and if someone is very keen, then let them try to test "who" stayed and "who" will give the curious head on.
        1. Far East
          Far East 5 July 2020 07: 57
          +3
          is ill! See Kovid 19 go to the Central Hospital.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 5 July 2020 13: 47
          0
          Quote: Dod Dodokhod
          Yesterday Dmitry Kozak left for a format meeting, incl. no need to terribly catch up

          Kozak went, and Zelya had already delivered a bravura speech and gave Putin 9 months to close the topic of Donbas. Clearly, Zelya’s case is a coward, and he is not capable of such words. So the soldering iron worked.
    3. mdsr
      mdsr 5 July 2020 07: 29
      22
      Quote: bald
      From whom does the order not to give an answer come from ?! And so along the chain to the top of the DLNR and to recommenders from Russia

      The order comes from the reset of all Russia. And what will you tell him? You, Lysov, his ardent supporter, and, therefore, are also responsible for the deaths of Russian old people, men and women, as well as the unfortunate children of Donbass. Say you are not in the answer? Nooo, in the answer, because it is YOU and the like that support all this oligarchic scum that rules in Russia. So get and sign the account. Go to church every day and light candles for the repose of these unfortunate victims.
    4. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 5 July 2020 15: 02
      +3
      And in a perverted form ... money is not forbidden to have, but they are ideological Westerners
  3. avia12005
    avia12005 5 July 2020 06: 01
    18
    The farther, the more will increase the number of people in LDNR and the Russian Federation itself, perceiving such a policy of Moscow as a defeat.
    1. Glenni
      Glenni 5 July 2020 07: 21
      13
      So far, on the contrary, everyone can see that where Russia gets in with "help" humiliated and insulted, then there is a complete well .... and for a long time.
    2. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 5 July 2020 14: 37
      +5
      Quote: avia12005
      The farther, the more will increase the number of people in LDNR and the Russian Federation itself, perceiving such a policy of Moscow as a defeat.


      So it is, and no matter how beautiful wrappers and promises people try to confuse their heads, you can’t hide the truth. Personally, I was disappointed in such a policy in 2014, when tanks entered Mariupol and I watched a live broadcast of some local streamer, I thought everything crossed the line (and then the tragedy in Odessa happened) and now there will be a tough answer, but then everyone came a well-known gentleman from Switzerland and politics changed 360 degrees, and then there was Minsk in which we are trying to return LDNR back to Ukraine. And actually, over time, it only intensified my disappointments in such a policy, repeating that Russian spring of 2014, now it won’t work out, the euphoria has passed and the people (that we, in the South-East of Ukraine) will not believe.
  4. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 5 July 2020 06: 10
    21 th
    APU play out. Any patience comes to an end. Then again, Putin will be blamed for everything, not his silly forelocked heads.
    1. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 5 July 2020 06: 43
      23
      Finish it? And so 6 years! Why doesn't APU play with Crimea? Why Crimea APU does not bother? Why are there Eskis in Syria and Jews bombing Syria? A variant of the agreement never occurred to me?
      1. Region68
        Region68 5 July 2020 06: 55
        22 th
        And the option that your head of propaganda stuffed into your head does not come?
        It does not occur that the APU prudently just doesn’t climb into Crimea because it makes no sense and strength .. Are the eSki in Syria simply unable to fight the Israeli Air Force?
        Without any agreement
    2. Glenni
      Glenni 5 July 2020 07: 28
      +6
      Sir, any state will not tolerate an armed seizure of power, the whole world knows this as terrorism. In 2014, Ukraine did not have any Army, instead a piece of paper from the "guarantors" with promises of protection.
      Now they bleated, they shoot at us!
      1. sevryuk
        sevryuk 5 July 2020 10: 29
        +1
        "Sir, any state will not tolerate an armed seizure of power, the whole world knows this as terrorism" - are you talking about the "Maidan", sir? Somehow it does not fit with the second part of the statement.
  5. Igoresha
    Igoresha 5 July 2020 06: 29
    +6
    so loudly the TV shook in front of the plebiscite and it is necessary to sag before Z
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 5 July 2020 07: 05
      -8
      igoresha-The space in your skull is clearly inflamed, maybe trying to reject the remnants of the mind, be careful
  6. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 5 July 2020 07: 26
    14 th
    Surkov said in February this year that there will be no discharge of Donbass, and in cases of aggravation of the situation, volunteers from Russia will quickly protect Donbass as much as it needs for the front and defense. Like that.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 5 July 2020 07: 44
      19
      Quote: Vadim Golubkov
      Surkov said

      He said!!! Still has the audacity to speak !!! More than he shit there ..... Oh! I remembered about the volunteers! And who will go there after the volunteers at home have been poured with mud and threatened with deadlines? Or will you make an official appeal? We have already heard "let them just try to bomb .... we do not abandon our own ...."
      1. convoy
        convoy 5 July 2020 07: 51
        -5
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Vadim Golubkov
        Surkov said

        He said!!! Still has the audacity to speak !!! More than he shit there ..... Oh! I remembered about the volunteers! And who will go there after the volunteers at home have been poured with mud and threatened with deadlines? Or will you make an official appeal? We have already heard "let them just try to bomb .... we do not abandon our own ...."

        You are right, as always, Elena .... But I think in case of a serious conflict, the volunteers will go to the defense of Donbass, even under the threat of a criminal case ..
        Politics is a dirty business, but there is still a matter of honor and dignity in Russia, and there are many of them left with a pure soul .. I have the honor! hi
        PS A lot of blood was shed there and not only volunteers, but also civilians. This can not be forgotten! A lot of photo documents
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 July 2020 08: 07
          15
          Quote: Konvoi
          I think in case of a serious conflict, volunteers will go to the defense of Donbass, even under the threat of a criminal case ..

          Don't give a damn about them "criminal proceedings" each the militia is under them, often several.

          BUT (LARGE) if I, let's say, come back and become "without an order"(decisions" from above ") to shred the APU, then who will provide me with the supply of BC, fuels and lubricants, medicines, food?

          You,convoy sorry, think in terms of children ...
          1. convoy
            convoy 5 July 2020 08: 41
            13 th
            Quote: Insurgent
            You, Konvoi, excuse me, think in terms of children ...

            But here you are a well-known provocateur .. Avatar would have changed, as it does not suit you, to be honest ..
            Quote: Insurgent
            If, let's say, I come back and begin to shred the Armed Forces of Ukraine "without an order" (decision "from above"), then who will provide me with the supply of BC, fuels and lubricants, medicines, food?

            Buffoons! laughing
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 July 2020 08: 52
              +3
              Quote: Konvoi
              Buffoons!

              fool
              1. convoy
                convoy 5 July 2020 10: 12
                -7
                Quote: Insurgent
                Quote: Konvoi
                Buffoons!

                fool

                Why such a reaction ..? lol
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 5 July 2020 11: 01
                  +6
                  Quote: Konvoi
                  Why such a reaction ..?

                  Stupid question yes

                  I am not interested in the stupid rabid troll "Meehan", from where the idea of ​​linking me and Skomorokhov arose in his meager mind ...
                  1. convoy
                    convoy 5 July 2020 12: 14
                    -8
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    Quote: Konvoi
                    Why such a reaction ..?

                    Stupid question yes

                    I am not interested in the stupid rabid troll "Meehan", from where the idea of ​​linking me and Skomorokhov arose in his meager mind ...

                    And with whom do you want to link yourself here and in general ..?
                    Question in the forehead! You here have made yourself a sort of connoisseur of Donbass and volunteers .. Well, you don’t really succeed, it somehow smacks of simplicity and Bandera .. This is my opinion! soldier
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 5 July 2020 12: 25
                      +6
                      Quote: Konvoi
                      You here have made yourself a sort of connoisseur of Donbass and volunteers .. Well, you do not really succeed

                      The question is why I can’t know Donbass if I was born and live here, and why I can’t know the militia (NM), if for a period, until the end of 2019, I was a militia? ? ?
                      Quote: Konvoi
                      it somehow smacks of simplicity and Bandera ..

                      It’s a mile away from you with a paid troll, rushing indiscriminately at all,this is a fact !

                      A conviction:
                      Quote: Konvoi
                      It's my opinion !

                      No more than the opinion of a person not very developed ...
            2. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 July 2020 09: 03
              +5
              Quote: Konvoi
              But here you are a well-known provocateur .. Avatar would have changed, as it does not suit you, to be honest ..

              Somehow I didn’t especially notice that you were once convicted of honesty yes

              And the avatar, if you don’t like it, then the Zenkas, don’t stare No. Etc.
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  7. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 5 July 2020 21: 34
    0
    He said this precisely at the congress of volunteers.
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 5 July 2020 08: 50
    -1
    Quote: ASAD
    Groundhog Day! Maybe it's time for Russia to spit on the west and mattresses and use force? Sanctions will not be lifted by anyone;

    To hunt? So take the cattle and go to the bear. And tickle your nerves can be emptied.
  • 113262a
    113262a 5 July 2020 09: 23
    +7
    Nothing changes ... The same forest, the same air and the same water, only he did not return from the battle ...
  • Boris55
    Boris55 5 July 2020 09: 42
    -5
    All the hot Finnish guys dreaming of starting a full-scale war, and if God forbid this happens, are you ready to personally die for the Ukrainian people who chose this power that has it? If it suddenly happens that we take Ukraine, then who do you think will restore it and in this connection are you ready to halve your family budget for the sake of Ukrainians who somehow do not really want our release?
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    2. Egor-dis
      Egor-dis 8 July 2020 12: 23
      0
      Quote: Boris55
      If it suddenly happens that we take Ukraine, then who do you think will restore it and in this connection are you ready to halve your family budget for the sake of Ukrainians who somehow do not really want our release?

      Zadolbala this speculation on "family budgets". The unicellular liberoids who are accustomed to asking "why feed ... Donbass / Chechnya / Syria (underline the necessary)" do not reach that, since 2014, it would be enough just to open the border with the rebellious regions for trade within the framework of the "Customs Union" as announced GDP, and the problem of ensuring Donbass / Novorossiya simply would not exist. Instead of financial strains, they would receive a boost in the economy and a showcase that clearly demonstrates the advantages of an alliance with Russia over the West. But instead, some "bright minds" decided to keep the insurgent pro-Russian territories on a humanitarian needle.
  • Kronos
    Kronos 5 July 2020 10: 21
    0
    The first adequate article by Makhov in recent times
  • Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov 5 July 2020 11: 09
    +9
    It is a pity the people of Donbass, military and civilians. It is a pity that they killed the Russian spring and Russian defenders. This fault is not only ukronatsizm and their Western accomplices, but to a greater extent - the political regime of zeroing in Russia.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 5 July 2020 11: 32
    +3
    The number of personnel in NM LDNR seriously falls short of the declared, and against the backdrop of such events, it becomes obvious that in the foreseeable future the number of people wishing to join the people's police will decrease. Those who are already firmly entrenched in the war and cannot imagine life without it, one after another leave this world, get seriously wounded or leave, unable to withstand the quirks of command. Those who go to war from hopelessness are unlikely to be highly combat-ready. The number of volunteers from Russia in recent years has seriously decreased and will grow exclusively in the event of full-fledged hostilities in which the defenders of the Donbass will take part not only as unrequited targets.
    Pure water is true! hi
  • Potomac
    Potomac 5 July 2020 14: 58
    +2
    All this is curious. The APU has the same situation and mood. What does not allow to shoot, that the ban on an adequate otvetku. The same complaints about the JCCC and the OSCE.
    1. VIP
      VIP 5 July 2020 20: 56
      0
      "Where did the firewood come from" - information? If the people's melitia is not allowed to answer, this is still understandable: they sold themselves to Kiev, and if "the APU is the same situation," and then who sold to whom?
      1. Potomac
        Potomac 6 July 2020 00: 34
        0
        No one sold out. Most likely, there is local interest. And for violation of silence, they do not stroke the head. Information from the actual direct participation.
  • VIP
    VIP 5 July 2020 20: 46
    +3
    Guys, what did you expect from the leadership of LDNR? They don’t even realize that they need to unite. Remember, at school we read a parable about how a father made his sons break a broom? They did not read this parable or completely forgot?
    Actually, I have a suspicion that Firtysh and Kolomoisky bought someone there. 1) the brightest commanders were "cleaned out" forward: Givi, Motorola. Just don’t need me to load about the APU RDG. One can be believed, but ALL the bright commanders? Why should they be the MGB, or maybe it's the MGB itself?
    2) they removed Zakharchenko, although he loved trinet, he was a charismatic leader and the people believed him, and do people believe the current leaders? I doubt very much
  • philosopher
    philosopher 5 July 2020 21: 02
    +1
    With great regret I must agree with the author.
    It truly reflects the situation in the Donbass. Indeed, it remains only with sadness to recall the 2014th, 2015th, 2016th years. I’m not about civilians, I want to say about the military. Then they went to the war with the hope of an early victory, looked at the militia as warriors-defenders and liberators.
    True romantics of war went to the defense of their land, their family, their home. How many legendary surnames and call signs were then, and now they are heard by the people ... And what a war was dashing, spectacular, on the rise, in one breath.
    But as the years passed, we were kept and kept on a short leash. Enthusiasm and patriotism are becoming more and more a thing of the past. Volunteers ... who were killed, who were squeezed into Russia, who are already being handed over from Russia to their historical homelands for reprisals for participating in "illegal military formations" (this is the official wording).
    The war was replaced by routine, and now this tramp lasts 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 7, for almost XNUMX years!
    And what is interesting, and why so far has not been introduced universal military duty, where is military conscription? Is there a war for life and independence, or is there extermination of passionaries who in the future may become uncomfortable or dangerous for the government, which should be imposed on us in the long term? (And from both warring parties).
    Now, indeed, there is no big queue or crush in the military registration and enlistment offices to enroll in the army. Well, tell yourself, honestly, "Would you go to a real, combat shooting range to work as a TARGET?" It was a target, without the right to return fire, without cover with artillery fire from its rear, without the presence of a specialized military hospital in the rear, practically without a current law on the militia or on conscripts, and without much else. And still in the shooting range, and still a target ...
    Once again, a good article, unfortunately ...
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 5 July 2020 23: 29
      -1
      General conscription will only lead to more people coming to Ukraine and Russia
  • Alexander Krivets
    Alexander Krivets 5 July 2020 22: 43
    -1
    Peacefully, the issue of Donbass and the entire Left Bank of the Dnieper cannot be resolved. While playing democracy with the Nazis, the Nazis destroy the people ...
  • Mikle2000
    Mikle2000 5 July 2020 23: 42
    0
    I do not quite understand the perplexity of the author? LDNR live entirely at the expense of (the people) of Russia. And whoever dines with the girl dances her. It is beneficial now for the leadership of Russia to show peace - you will endure. The time will come to put the West in general and Ukraine in particular in place - get a team of fas and go kill. There is no need to analyze anything and think about anything - do what the owner says and do not show off. The right of all your opinions and Maidan there has long been exchanged for a portion of feed from the hands of the owners.
    1. Inspector
      Inspector 6 July 2020 19: 13
      +1
      Doesn’t wash your face with blood, you Moskal radish.
  • T-44
    T-44 6 July 2020 01: 50
    0
    It is necessary to stop these dances with tambourines. People are dying.
  • Alexander Donetsk_2
    Alexander Donetsk_2 6 July 2020 09: 57
    0
    "... predictably gave way to ritual diplomatic messages to Zelensky ...", but according to whose, it is interesting to direct instructions, did you not think about it? I will answer: curvators from the Russian Federation, personally subordinate to Himself. Do you think they can make a peep without him? Again I will answer: no way. So think about who you roll the barrel at, good gentlemen and don't blather too much!
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 6 July 2020 10: 53
    +1
    After a short “thaw” at the front line, the defenders of Donbass are again more and more often forbidden to use large calibers to strike at the APU.


    In one of his last interviews, Strelkov said that the ammunition depots were sealed by the authorities and those few commanders who respond to shelling ukrov have the choice of either shooting unaccounted for, if any, or committing offenses and crawling into official ammunition, risking falling under court.
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  • Inspector
    Inspector 6 July 2020 19: 11
    0
    groundhog leaked, and zdrada is booming. And on the wrong side !!! shoigu to the tribunal would be stirred ...
  • Egor-dis
    Egor-dis 8 July 2020 12: 34
    0
    The number of personnel in NM LDNR seriously falls short of the declared, and against the backdrop of such events, it becomes obvious that in the foreseeable future the number of people wishing to join the people's police will decrease.
    This is what is called de-escalation of the conflict by indirect methods. When it is impossible to send the militias in plain text because the damage to the ratings, you can create conditions when the militias themselves begin to scatter. And they leave because they understand - the so-called. The "people's militia", and especially its "visiting" command and other "guests" who come with checks, have a very indirect relationship to the defense capability of the Republics. So we can only rely on ourselves, but on the machine gun buried (if lucky) somewhere.
    In fact, everything is much worse than writing (or allow writing) Egor Makhov.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 8 July 2020 20: 17
    0
    "Even if it was an initiative launched from above, isn't it possible (at least instead of puffing out your cheeks) to make it clear what is really happening and what to expect from all this saber-rattling?"
    As if no one sees what is happening. Everyone knows everything perfectly well, but no one puts the vote of Novorossiya or the voice of Russia into anything. Capitalism and TNCs benefit from an endless conflict on the Russian border. Since we could not get on the shale, we need to recoup on the supply of scrap metal, which the Ukrop “military leaders”, or rather the chiefs, call “the most modern boats” that have long been decommissioned, “new tanks” in the form of cosmetics on the T-64 or “innovative” dung ... Clean economy ...
    1. harpsichord
      harpsichord 11 July 2020 15: 52
      -1
      Man lives in hope. And in Transnistria, and in Abkhazia, and in South Ossetia, and in Northern Cyprus. Lives and lives. And life (vegetation) passes. And those who could decide - they don’t live there, they don’t hurt.
  • harpsichord
    harpsichord 11 July 2020 15: 56
    -1
    Man lives in hope. And in Transnistria, and in Abkhazia, and in South Ossetia, and in Northern Cyprus. Lives and lives. And life (vegetation) passes. And those who could decide - they don’t live there, they don’t hurt.