The legendary Mi-24 upgrade to the level of modern helicopters

The legendary Mi-24 transport and combat helicopter developed in Soviet times will be modernized and brought to the level of modern helicopters. Tests of the new version will be completed in 2021. This was stated by the General Director of JSC "Leverage" (part of the Radioelectronic Technologies Concern KRET) Alexey Panin.

Speaking to reporters, Panin explained that the modernized version of the Mi-24 is currently at the stage of creating a prototype. Factory testing of the helicopter will begin at the end of this year, and will end, according to plans, in the first quarter of next year.

Now we have officially closed two stages of development work: a technical project and the development of documentation. The Mi-24 helicopter is now at the stage of creating a prototype. The experimental machine, as we plan, will fly into the air very soon, and in the first quarter of next year we plan to complete factory tests

- he said.

Reportedly, in the process of modernization, the Mi-24 received a new airborne defense system, which allows protecting the helicopter from modern weapons, as well as conducting electronic reconnaissance and electronic suppression. In addition, the helicopter received a new cockpit, made on the principle of "glass", new aerobatic equipment and control system.

A new management system is also reported. weapons and the increased nomenclature of weapons of the modernized Mi-24, but details are not given.

Equipping the Mi-24 helicopter with modern electronic equipment and armaments allows achieving combat effectiveness comparable to the latest generation machines, much lower costs in comparison with the purchase of new helicopters

- stressed Panin.

Mi-24 (according to NATO classification: Hind - "Doe") - Soviet / Russian attack helicopter designed by the Moscow Design Bureau of M. L. Mil. The unofficial name is Crocodile. Serial production began in 1971. The helicopter is designed for the transfer of units of the ground forces, the evacuation of the wounded and fire support on the battlefield.

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[avia12005]

From the good of good are not looking for

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: avia12005

From the good of good are not looking for

It’s strange why then in the army, still do not run with three-line ...

[Crimean partisan 1974]

still do not run with three lines ... well, somewhere else they run. Well, so the pug is so skat launcher and not a platform. and she shoots with one single welt 7.62-54. (You can, of course, shmalnut with a NATO groove, but this is an exception). ... and the Mi-24 is a platform, and very well-proven. why not put more modern weapons on it. or rather sighting systems and both electronic warfare and SOEP. quite normal. behind a big puddle like the same age as the Mi-24 Sikorsky "Black Hawk2" is not going to retire

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

Well, somewhere else they run.

Not from a very good life, probably?

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

and the Mi-24 is a platform, and highly recommended seed. why not put on it more modern weapons. Rather, sighting systems and both electronic warfare and ESR. quite normal.

Well, this is here:

Quote: avia12005

From the good of good are not looking for

What is the difference between a "platform" and a "launcher"? If not in the little things?

[Crimean partisan 1974]

and how the platform differs from the launcher ...... yes, simply. let him be a launcher. and the platform is a fairly large denomination of these launchers. from nursa to anti-tank systems. and Air-to-Air missiles, well, plus a shooter, well, something like this ... and if in the little things .... then this is to ergonomics and so on and so forth, and to the propeller-motor group, these are not trifles

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

the platform is a fairly large denomination of these launchers. from nursa to anti-tank systems. and Air-to-Air missiles, well, plus shooting

About what and speech. Therefore, I repeat:

Quote: Vasyan1971

Well, this is here:
Quote: avia12005
From the good of good are not looking for

[Crimean partisan 1974]

they don't look for good from the good ..... it's like to experience it on your skin, the 24th are still animals, or rather birds, it's like Semyonich sang about a yak fighter "and the one who sits in me thinks that he is a fighter", people control the car , and .. by the way. and the speed record for helicopters, which is set on the Mi-24 430 km per hour, is broken? otherwise ..... ancient, unnecessary ..... and who broke the record?

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

and then ..... ancient, not needed ..... and who broke the record?

This is all the same:

Quote: avia12005

From the good of good are not looking for

I repeat the third time. If necessary, I will repeat in the fourth.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

I repeat the third time .... from good to good ... I somehow did not react to this comment. because what would it be necessary to answer him a certain amount of alcohol. company. what thread is a musical instrument and a young lady of the simplest behavior ........ and on the topic everything seems to be the norm ... ... crocadiles and alligators and night hunters and legendary eights regularly flare over my roof. true with a ramp. probably MVT, let them drive. and my soul is pleased ... POWER

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

Let’s drive. and my soul is pleased ... POWER

Amen!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Amen! ..... verily amen, ..... in Vasyan you’re someone's blood enemy ... we’ll fix it, I’m sorry I can’t post it, there are some urls-shmurls there, and I have no idea what it is and what it’s with are eating

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

Vasyan you are someone's blood enemy

So life has not lived in vain.

[Oleg kubanoid]

well, given the fact that this is the main machine in the air force .. then yes he needs modernization at least to level mi 35

[Aaron Zawi]

The Mi-24 has enormous potential for modernization. Last year, at the request of Poland, RAFAEL presented a plan for the modernization of the Polish Mi-24.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Oleg kubanoid

then yes he needs modernization to at least level mi 35

Yes? And then what kind of beast, if not the modernization of the Mi-24?
https://helicopter.su/mi_24-mi_35/

[bayard]

Modernization is a planned event. All sides that have a sufficient resource, such should pass. In addition, such an upgrade seems more tailored to foreign customers, operators of this wonderful machine.
In addition, the Mi-24 \ 35, this is a flying BMP, unlike the Mi-28, so no one will change this niche to a purely drums.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: bayard

In addition, the Mi-24 \ 35, this is a flying BMP, unlike the Mi-28, so no one will change this niche to a purely drums.

In our particular case:

Quote: Oleg kubanoid

he (Mi-24] needs modernization to at least level mi 35

Nobody says and swaps one for another (24 & 28).

[Flyer_64]

Quote: Oleg kubanoid

to mi level 35

The Mi-35 is an upgrade of the Mi-24, only a little truncated. The modernization announced by Alexey Panin, General Director of JSC "Lechag", is at last a deep and complete modernization of the Mi24.

[Mountain shooter]

They didn’t say anything about the engines ... And the well-deserved helicopter. Consider many boys, they (his qualities) owe life ...

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

And I thought the upgraded Mi-24 helicopter is the Mi-35 helicopter.

[Kasym]

The Mi-35 has speed (due to a fixed gear) and the number of suspensions is lower compared to the Mi-24.

[Narak-zempo]

A lot of questions cause such a decision.
To the level of which "modern" ones?
We have the Mi-28, which is also, to put it mildly, not a very modern development, but was the result of "correcting errors" based on the experience of using the Mi-24. Bringing the Crocodile "to the level of" 28th is impossible, in principle, purely because of the layout decisions (troop compartment, placement of engines, etc.).
Isn’t it better to spend this money on saturating the troops with truly modern machines?

[Grazdanin]

We do not have helicopters that can be called modern. A fundamental issue in "electronics", a total lag in this area. From which platform do the Nurses and Bunks fire, I do not see much difference.

[dauria]

Bringing the Crocodile "to the level of" 28th is impossible, in principle, purely because of the layout solutions (troop compartment, placement of engines, etc.).

Yes, there is nothing wrong with the landing cockpit. She does not add weight, but the benefits when working with sites are huge. Technical support, equipment, junk in reserve immediately, you just can drag and drop soldiers to throw and throw right away. Well, you reduced the overall height by 28th. Is this really so important?
Yes, and the cabin there, the three of us in potatoes and a bubble to drink. The empty place disappeared - well done, too. And the car is wonderful even for pilots, at least for techies. Everything in moderation - and power and armor, and compatibility with the eights. To write off early.

[bk0010]

Quote: dauria

She does not add weight

I thought so too. It turned out that adds and decently.

[igor67]

Quote: dauria

The empty place disappeared

it didn’t disappear at all, an additional fuel tank was installed

[good]

If you listen to the flyers who worked in Afghanistan, they did not use hanging tanks there, much less put them inside, and as a rule they didn’t carry anyone, the eights were carried by eights and the crocodiles covered with themselves and fire

[alexmach]

It is necessary to unify everything that is available by type of weapon. First of all, guided weapons and electronic complexes too

[bayard]

Quote: Narak-zempo

Isn’t it better to spend this money on saturating the troops with truly modern machines?

The Mi-28 does not have an airborne squad; it will not be able to pick up the wounded, evacuate the reconnaissance group, or, on the contrary, land it and cover it with fire.
The troop compartment is armored, so it will endure under fire.
This is a BMP.
Mi-28 is a tank.
Mi-8 - conveyor, without the "armor" prefix.
Each has its own niche of combat use.

[Voyager]

Quote: bayard

The Mi-28 does not have an airborne squad; it will not be able to pick up the wounded, evacuate the reconnaissance group, or, on the contrary, land it and cover it with fire.

In the Mi-28, several people can climb into the tail through the hatch in an emergency.

[bayard]

And the Mi-24 command loves to fly - read that an armored taxi. Our Sangachal squadron (near Baku) didn’t carry anyone ... especially January-February 1990.
They (Mi-24) even served in the air defense - to catch "Rustas" on light engines.

[ermak124.0]

Quote: Grazdanin

From which platform do the Nurses and Bunks fire, I do not see much difference.

Yes, the difference is the same as between NAR and NURS

[Grazdanin]

Exactly, no.

[Zaurbek]

It’s calmer with the armored and more cars will return to the airfield. And the Mi28 is fundamentally different from 24.

[Grazdanin]

If you actually have only S-8, with its range of 2-3 km, only tank armor will save from air defense systems.

[Zaurbek]

And if they are not? And the tactics of action are different when patrolling and attacking a specific divorced target.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Zaurbek

And if they are not?

Then the Mi-8 is enough.

[Zaurbek]

There is a monograph about Mi24. They described the use of Mi8, and Mi8 and 24. For such purposes in Afghanistan. Due to losses, only Mi8 was abandoned.

[Grazdanin]

Does it mean air defense? Well, we continue to hang in the zone of destruction of ZU-23

[Zaurbek]

ZU23mm and Shilka 23mm different things and the missions of the helicopter are different.

[TermNachTer]

The pinwheel is not bad. But the attempt to combine an attack helicopter and a transport helicopter did not prove itself. Alas, the large compartment in the glider radically worsens its capabilities as a combat vehicle. Large sizes, large volumes - are not used in any way. Built according to the classical scheme of the percussion - Mi - 28, it is definitely better. Modernization makes sense only if a significant result is achieved with minimal costs.

[Zaurbek]

It's all smart now. At that time, it was one of the concepts. And then they made Mi28

[TermNachTer]

I do not deny this, I say that the idea has not justified itself. Does it make sense to fence the garden further?

[Zaurbek]

Nobody is flying Mi24 fly, they are being modernized. The garden is in another city. Mi35,20, Ka52. We buy 3 different helicopters at the same time.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Zaurbek

We buy 3 different helicopters at the same time.

3 types of the same helicopter targets, 3 types of the same tank goals. Even the United States with their budget does not allow this.

[Zaurbek]

Tanks were riveted back in the USSR. And helicopters are already in the not rich RF

[Grazdanin]

Now this is happening with tanks. For some reason, the T80 is being returned to service.

[Zaurbek]

They are there felts 3000pcs, felts 5000pcs. In storage. What to do with them?

[alexmach]

What to do with them?

Store next what else. Why return right now is really not clear. It’s a pity for remelting too early.

[Zaurbek]

Apparently they sit and decide. And they decided that it was better to send them to serve. And then, replace with the T90M. Apparently.

[alexmach]

Why did the T80 return to service

There were unverified rumors that the T-72s suitable for modernization were ending.
Another strange option is to support the Omsk (?) Plant.

[alexmach]

Why did the T80 return to service

Another option - they thought that it’s the same with three modifications to live, so why not with four?

[Stalllker]

They explained that they are more suitable for the northern latitudes of our vast homeland.

[Grazdanin]

Tell Finns will be surprised

[Stalllker]

And what is the relationship between the Finns and the T-80?

[Grazdanin]

Look at the map, see what tanks the Finns have, think.

[Stalllker]

Why should I look at the map, the tanks and think about the finns? Or is it news for you that a gas turbine engine is preferable to a diesel engine in cold weather ??? I have no doubt that the Finns were surprised when they learned about the news that the Russian Federation has decided to modernize the T-80 and thereby create and strengthen the "Arctic grouping".

[alexmach]

Why should I look at the map, tanks and think about the Finns?

For the fact that there you will find the answer to your question. Finns in their climate operate .... drum roll .... T-72. Diesel. And do not complain. Abrams gas turbine or something else does not change. Maybe they mean maybe Russia, and why not start another type of tactics in service, complicating the already complex logistics.
Well, another related question is that in these northern latitudes of the motherland are you going to do something on the T-80? Permafrost plow?

[Stalllker]

Did I say that the T-72 can’t be operated? Only the T-80 for the north is preferable. And the Finns don’t have a T-80, so they use a T-72, and they don’t have money for the abrash. So put your fraction in yourself ****

[Stalllker]

Yes, and at the beginning of the conversation I did not ask questions, what would there be to look for. And about the map, tanks and Finns, this is a rhetorical question

[good]

To change the Finns you need to buy, and the Ministry of Defense already has T-80 in commodity quantities on its balance sheet. There is plenty to gather from right now and give people jobs. Koreans can exchange for their own but operate the T-80 and do not buzz.
The good thing is what is already there and not what will be.
Same thing with helicopters. there are enough good flying cars. which can carry a decent amount of weapons and assault forces if you really need to and if you can seriously pull them up, why not do it now.
It’s better to upgrade 24s than sculpt 35s. On the ground they can work wonderfully and in the same formation with 8 can serve
And 28 and 52 are purely percussion.
A normal move if they are hung on them by more powerful engines, modern avionics, navigation systems, communication systems, fire control, defense and weapons.

[alexmach]

To change the Finns you need to buy, and the Ministry of Defense already has T-80 in commodity quantities on its balance sheet. There is something to collect right now

Firstly, the MO on the balance sheet has 72 and also in marketable quantities, of which you can also "collect right now."
Secondly, well, it’s not so easy to take and collect, they must also be modernized. After all, they are outdated for a long time. And here is the commissioning of 80-k this
1. separate modernization project
2. Another type of tanks in the ranks, and it requires individual specialists and spare parts logistics ..

Koreans can exchange for their own but operate the T-80 and do not buzz.

And they will change sooner or later. Note that Koreans are already exploiting and Russia is commissioning. And how many types of tacts do they exploit in total? For some reason, we are already introducing the fourth. At what is seriously different from existing ones in service.
how justified is it? I dont know. As for me, the decision is very controversial.

there are enough good flying cars. which can carry a decent amount of weapons and landings

But they can't. After all, there are either weapons or troops. Well, what does "decent flying" mean is a separate question.
With helicopters, it's a complete mess. Delivered 3 types of new "strike" helicopter, not unified at all for anything, even for weapons. Well, yes, the old 24-ki, if they are suitable for further operation, must be modernized first of all for the use of the same striking means.

[Zaurbek]

You can explain everything

[bk0010]

Quote: Grazdanin

For some reason, the T80 is being returned to service.

For the north. Turbine in the cold works well.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Grazdanin

Tell Finns will be surprised

[bk0010]

Do you have other information? Don’t share the link?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

You are wrong.

[Zaurbek]

But they are not released.

[TermNachTer]

That's it. Does it make sense to spend money on upgrading the 24th if you can buy the new highly specialized Mi-28 or Ka-50 with the same money?

[Zaurbek]

They are much more expensive. It is necessary to upgrade. But why buy a Mi35?

[TermNachTer]

How much is supposed to be spent on modernization? And how much money can you buy new turntables? Not to mention the fact that the plants are loaded with work

[Zaurbek]

They are already loaded. And so, the factories that make avionics and weapons are additionally loaded. Rostvertol has nothing to do with it at all. He releases Mi35 / 26/28 at home.

[Grazdanin]

Mi 24 and Mi 28 immediately planned to go together. Logic with both BMP and tank. These helicopters were created for other wars. That logic and concept makes sense, but it was in the 70s.

[TermNachTer]

I doubt it very much. Mi-28 was created much later, taking into account the shortcomings of the 24th.

[Grazdanin]

Not specifically mi 28, but a helicopter of this class.

[TermNachTer]

Perhaps, but it was never created. Even the Mi - 35, only a deep modification of the 24th.

[Zaurbek]

No. A normal transporter should go with Mi28 and not engage in unusual work

[Herman 4223]

Flying BMP, what's wrong with that? The landing party has protection against bullets, it is possible to evacuate under the enemy’s nose if it has MANPADS of course not.

[TermNachTer]

Six people in the transport compartment significantly worsen the performance characteristics of the helicopter - this was understood in Afghanistan. And almost never used it in a transport version, only as a fire support helicopter.

[Lopatov]

Quote: TermNachTER

And almost never used it in a transport version

Because they never decided on large airmobile operations. And so the Mi-8 was enough.

[2 Level Advisor]

I do not understand your logic. They didn’t dare to carry out large operations, that is, they were only small, but they used mi-8 with a larger number of troops than mi-24?
Then, in theory, Mi-8 would not have been used at all, everyone and everything was transported for 24x ..

[Lopatov]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

I do not understand your logic. They didn’t dare to carry out large operations, that is, they were only small, but they used mi-8 with a larger number of troops than mi-24?

Yes.
Because the airmobile operation in the "big" war by default could not be imposing. Artillery and aviation simply could not hold the "corridor" for so long

Therefore, it was necessary to minimize the time of the transfer of units and equipment.
And in a big war, the Mi-24 would certainly fly out with paratroopers.

I remember that in the second Chechen motorized rifle battalion they were transferred to the mountains for almost a day. Moreover, the landing site (one) and its future positions were tightly controlled by the reconnaissance division battalion.
But according to the Charter, the battalion is supposed to land in one flight

[TermNachTer]

Well, I won’t argue, in Afghanistan I was a senior sergeant, I flew as a passenger on Mi-8, under the cover of Mi-24. I was not involved in decision-making.

[Lopatov]

Quote: TermNachTER

Well, I won’t argue, in Afghanistan I was a senior sergeant, I flew as a passenger on Mi-8, under the cover of Mi-24. I was not involved in decision-making.

If some function is not needed, this does not mean that it is not needed
For example, anti-tank guns never used "Ruta" And this only means that we did not have a chance to conduct military operations against NATO. Not that this device was useless.

[TermNachTer]

Mattress makers, already in Vietnam, widely used separately transport and combat turntables, quite rationally.

[Lopatov]

Quote: TermNachTER

Mattress makers, already in Vietnam, widely used separately transport and combat turntables, quite rationally.

Such a number of helicopters as the Americans could not afford the Soviet Union.
I remind you that they have an army aviation brigade per division.

[TermNachTer]

When needed, the USSR could do almost anything. If the Central Committee of the CPSU set the task, it would be completed. Not all US divisions had a military aviation brigade.

[Lopatov]

Quote: TermNachTER

If the Central Committee of the CPSU set the task, it would be completed.

Set. Not done.
Not a single air assault brigade was deployed in its entirety, with a helicopter regiment

[strannik1985]

Set. Not done.

With two - combat and transport, a total of 135 helicopters, there were 3 - 11th, 13th, 21st such brigades.
It can be said otherwise - in the US Armed Forces there were not as many divisions as in the SA.

[TermNachTer]

The helicopter regiment was part of the army, there were separate helicopter squadrons. In the USA, not everything is so good either. Only the 101st assault landing had permanent aviation, all the rest - as needed or whenever possible.

[Mityasha]

At one time in the USSR there were AA divisions.

[Lopatov]

There were. But the Americans still have more of them. I could not afford a helicopter regiment to every motorized rifle division of the USSR.

[Mityasha]

There was no need, the doctrine was different, unlike NATO. And the ground forces were larger than the amers.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Mityasha

There was no need

The need was just the same. When the air assault brigades and battalions in large quantities created. But not pulled

[Stalllker]

You talk like a passenger

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Herman 4223

Flying BMP, what's wrong with that?

Absolutely nothing. Especially if there are options, such as shock, landing, ambulance and transport.

[Doliva63]

"... Mi - 28, definitely better."
When and where did he prove it?

[41st region]

There is an interesting interview with a Mi-24 pilot on Tactic Media. And a few comparisons with the Mi-35.

[Zaurbek]

There, some kind of story was about competition for the modernization of the army Mi24. And on Army2019 showed 2pcs Mi24. From different offices. Both are not RostVertol and not KB Miles.
One was "P" with AFAR in the bow, the second I don't remember.

[Herman 4223]

Panin is a familiar surname, I hope that this is not the one that was fond of dogs.
And so it’s a good thing, there are a lot of such turntables, and for less money you can get a large fleet of modern cars.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

The sick actor Panin has no such interests.

[Herman 4223]

Yes, the dog knows him.

[Mark kalendarov]

Yes Panin died, died ... For a long time. Rest in peace! He was a good actor.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

German and I wrote about Alexei Panin, and not about Andrey Panin.

[Vasyan1971]

It also reports on a new weapon control system and an increased nomenclature of weapons for the upgraded Mi-24, but no details are provided.

Surprise adversaries will be.

[Aleks2000]

And rightly so. A recognized helicopter - improve engine armor, electronics ....

And then on new scandals or promises, and the release is not so hot ...

[Sergey Averchenkov]

As they just did not call him ... transport assault, shock ... And the crocodile took root. A good helicopter can only be compared with mi-8 in terms of popularity and reliability.

[demo]

Equipping the Mi-24 helicopter with modern electronic equipment and armaments allows achieving combat effectiveness comparable to the latest generation machines, much lower costs in comparison with the purchase of new helicopters

- stressed Panin.

As a layman in the field of aviation, it is difficult for me to judge whether this helicopter can or cannot be upgraded to the level of today.
What intrigues me the most is that for the last 10-15 years, stuffing from various responsible, unresponsive and irresponsible officials and civil servants has been constantly coming from just such information.
That is, for example.
We began to study the issue of deep modernization ... and the name.
In it, Soviet designers laid a huge potential .... a list of what was laid.
The prototype (s) will be ready for .... and three to five years in advance.

Only I get the impression of how successfully and fruitfully our defense industry is developing?

And we, the heirs of the great Union, the descendants of restless talented people who laid such capabilities in their brainchilds, we can only modernize planes, helicopters, and tanks with ships.
And against the backdrop of the fact that the President of Russia approves the Education 2030 Program and makes changes to the procedure for examinations, certification, and before receiving education, we can safely predict that in a short period of time, instead of modernization, we will proudly declare that that our specialists successfully cleaned / washed this and that product manufactured in 1976. And what we have, there are still prospects in this difficult work.
For hurt, our grandfathers and great-grandfathers left a whopping.

[Stalllker]

And what does our partners have fresh ??? I can’t remember anything fundamentally new, abrashas, ​​leopards, guns of different configurations are also half a century old. From fresh only with us, T-14 and Co., Su-57

[viktor_ui]

"to achieve combat efficiency comparable to the latest generation machines, much less cost compared to the purchase of new helicopters," Panin emphasized. "... a very frequent boltological technique in terms of supposedly reducing the cost of everything and everyone (for example, working with a cheap mace - how colorful ventriloquism about total economy ... and on the exhaust, frantic and uncontrolled consumption and theft ... about the unnecessary Vostochny cosmodrome, they also lied to the point of economy ... clowns.

[Mark kalendarov]

But isn't the 35th modernized 24th ???
Here, upgrade and release the 35th! ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Mark Kalendarov

But isn't the 35th modernized 24th ???
Here, upgrade and release the 35th! ...

I heard that the Mi-35 has a problem with cleaning the chassis - a good upgrade!

[Nikolay R-PM]

main question: is the upgrade consistent with the developer? if the developer is not involved in the integration of new systems, then the MO is unlikely to become interested. they are completely satisfied with the existing P-shki and V-shki as fire support helicopters for infantry and equipment, while the 24s operate after the suppression of the detected air defense assets by the forces of bomber, attack aircraft or artillery (tactics worked out in Afghanistan and now used in Syria ), relatively simple breo mi24 p / v produces fewer failures
in addition, according to the military balance 2019, we have no more than 100 deployed mi24 of all modifications concentrated in the center (including renovated and modernized mi24pn in Koltsovo) and the east of the country. mi35 (new construction), mi28n and ka52 are deployed in the western direction (the total number of attack helicopters deployed is about 380)
most likely if the customer is found, then foreign.

[Stalllker]

Well, why not muddle the PU cassette from the cargo compartment
type for attack missiles, for several dozen missiles ?! Something similar in the USSR was used on a tank destroyer. Or some other rockets.

[garri-lin]

Better turret movable with GSh 23 or 30. And how much ammunition will fit in weight. Ganship will succeed.

[Stalllker]

Also an option ... two turrets for balancing and a common "basket" with ammunition

[igor67]

Quote: Stalllker

Also an option ... two turrets for balancing and a common "basket" with ammunition

it’s not real, there’s nothing to fix it tightly, the floor in the cargo compartment is removable, it covers the fuel tanks, plus where to shoot, the consoles with nurses interfere

[Stalllker]

Hmmm better Mi-26 for turrets, Attacks and stick a dozen calibers on the external sling

[garri-lin]

A dozen unfortunately does not fit. Have to be limited to five.

[Stalllker]

Yes, this is humor, do not take this seriously

[garri-lin]

Well, I initially humored.

[Alexey-74]

The modernization of the legendary Mi-24 (Crocodile) has been brewing for a long time, the helicopter has proven itself for decades and participating in various wars, but it’s not entirely clear to me personally, but is the Mi-35 not a modernization of the Mi-24? Or is the 35th still a more truncated version?

[lvov_aleksey]

cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Alexey-74

The modernization of the legendary Mi-24 (Crocodile) has been brewing for a long time, the helicopter has proven itself for decades and participating in various wars, but it’s not entirely clear to me personally, but is the Mi-35 not a modernization of the Mi-24? Or is the 35th still a more truncated version?

amount of trump card!

[aristok]

The very concept of a flying BMP is damaging - Russia does not need this misunderstanding.
Therefore, it is best to upgrade the Mi-24 (for a high price) and ALL to sell abroad.
We must immediately take advantage of the current political situation and quickly flush out all the Mi-24s of the frightened Chinese of India.

[Mityasha]

Quote: Spade

But according to the Charter, the battalion is supposed to land in one flight

By what charter? And what about airborne armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles? Do not confuse anything?

[Mityasha]

Quote: Stalllker

You talk like a passenger

Can you educate on the composition of US divisions, not as a passenger?