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The echo of protest. COVID-19 Infections Rise in the US

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Source: vmeste-rf.tv


Like a textbook


Let us turn to the chronology of the events of the last few weeks. A real protest in the United States unfolded at the very end of May: people took to the streets en masse, observing at best the mask regime. You can believe or not believe in the two-week incubation period of coronavirus, but a steady increase in the number of infected began precisely on June 14 - 19532 new cases of infection. A day later, 19968 new patients, and June 16 - 23705. Before the protests began, the country was carefully entering the plateau phase, which, according to many experts, should have lasted no more than a month. And then decrease and gradual stabilization of the situation, as in Europe.

What are they facing in the USA now? Since June 22, more than 30 thousand new cases of infection are recorded daily. It was like that in April, at the beginning of the epidemic. And, it seems, growth is not going to stop: on June 23, the coronavirus overcame 35 daily infections. Talking about the second wave in this case is incorrect. In the country, the first wave of COVID-19 was not dealt with. Mass protests became the key reason that provoked a new surge. An increase in the incidence is observed immediately in 20 states, and five have recorded record levels. A similar consequence of festivities, looting and demolition of monuments was mentioned in one of the materials on Military Review a few weeks ago.


A picture of the spread of coronavirus in the United States. Source: en.wikipedia.org

The acceleration of the spread of coronavirus can only be explained by the consequences of the protest “Black lives are important!” not allowed. The early exit of most US regions from quarantine should also be considered. In an effort to prevent economic collapse, the states have seriously weakened isolation rules. Even on the sensational video of the detention of the unfortunate Floyd on May 25, the streets of Minneapolis are busy, and even the police do not follow the simplest rules of protection: no masks, no gloves. And now in the United States more than 120 thousand deaths from COVID-19 and more than 2,3 million infected. Nevada introduces a mandatory mask regime due to a new exacerbation, and all Apple stores close in Texas, Florida, Arizona, North and South Carolina. The latter fact is a serious sign for other companies: a new wave of quarantine closure is expected in the near future. The independence of state governors in this case left the country sideways. Often, the loyalty of the electorate forces managers to take populist steps, abolishing self-isolation measures in advance. How can one not recall the words of President Putin describing the situation in the USA:

"Here, the president says: it is necessary to do so-and-so, and so on the local governors say: go away."


But what about Trump?


Donald Trump, one of the most odious presidents of the United States, continues to maintain his ambiguous reputation in coronavirus reality. In early summer, he assured his voters that the weather was warm and the ill-fated virus should retreat before the high temperatures and the sun ... As it turned out, the hopes for spontaneous disappearance did not materialize: the virus feels great in a country protesting in the warm sun. Now the president explains the steady growth in the number of new infections with a large number of tests for the virus. And here we cannot help but recall the situation with Russia. The Americans did not believe and do not believe in the low mortality from COVID-19 in our country, blaming all the unscrupulous statistics. (By the way, in Russia, unfortunately, mortality is already approaching 1,5%.) But in the United States they were so annoyed by the fact of our high survival rate that they even instituted a grant of 250 thousand dollars to expose a vicious healthcare system. At the same time, opponents from Russia had the thesis about a large number of tests (second place in the world - 18,4 million studies) and early detection of infection. Amazingly, President Trump took this fact into service and fights off his opponents! And as early as mid-June, the country's leader’s attitude toward testing on COVID-19 was rather negative: he proposed to consider it “overrated”, not the most effective and exposed the United States in an unfavorable light. The chronology of the development of Trump's logic is generally difficult to understand. Here is one of his last appeals to the nation via Twitter:

“Mortality from coronavirus has decreased significantly. The mortality rate is one of the lowest in the world. Our economy will catch up and not stop. “Coals” or flashes will be extinguished as necessary! ”



Photo: wikimedia.org

Such behavior of the US president can be explained very simply: ahead of the election, potential voters may not forgive the next global stress. They only threw off excess steam, destroying unrequited monuments, and here again a wave of incidence. Very inappropriately there was a statement by Robert Redfield, director of the Federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, about a significant underestimation of the total number of cases in the country. According to his calculations, in the USA, not 2,3 million people are currently ill and sick, but ten times more. Of course, one cannot speak of such a large-scale deliberate understatement of the number of infected people. It’s just that the American medical system monitors only a small part of coronavirus infected people. The rest either carry the disease on their feet, or are generally asymptomatic, or have been ill much earlier than the pandemic. Redfield is based on the results of an American blood test for antibodies to COVID-19. Here the math is simple: for every confirmed case of coronavirus in ten cases, antibodies are fixed in the blood. Since June 20, Russia has also launched a program to study the collective immunity of citizens to COVID-19. Residents of 22 regions on a voluntary basis can test the blood for antibodies to infection, and here we can also expect unexpected results.

The decline in the interest of US residents in the presidency of Trump has been recorded for more than one month. According to The New York Times and Siena College, in June, Joe Biden confidently bypasses the current president, not only in individual states, but throughout the country. Trump has no choice but to “ignore” the new attack of the coronavirus, while maintaining a good face in a bad game. The expert community of physicians and epidemiologists in the United States accuse the president of this mistake. At the beginning of the epidemic, Trump accused anyone (WHO, China and even Russia) of rapidly spreading COVID-19, but not his own slowness. And now, it seems, the situation is developing according to the same scenario. In a week or two, the country will re-enter the peak of the incidence rate, and Trump will no longer be able to ignore the scale of the epidemic. The public will again face a pack of presidential accusations. Whom will Trump appoint this time? The most interesting thing is that none of the liberal-minded public in either the United States or Europe will dare to accuse anti-racist protests of fomenting a new surge in COVID-19. The expression of the people’s views, in spite of everything, is above all.

The echo of protest. COVID-19 Infections Rise in the US
Photo: https://health.mil

If we recall that the situation with coronavirus develops according to epidemiology textbooks, then we can predict the development of the situation in the United States. As a model for this, Russia, which has passed the peak of the epidemic somewhere on May 15-16, is perfect. After the peak of incidence, approximately a month of the stable phase of the plateau passed, and then a gradual decrease in new infections began. And Russia in this case is not the only example. Look at the graphs of the development of epidemics in European countries, the basic picture will be similar.

In the case of a new warming up of coronavirus stories in the United States, the question of peak time remains open. If Trump forgets about COVID-19 and engages in the election race, then the duration of the peak may stretch for a month and a half. And the subsequent phase of the plateau will take another 30-40 days. In this situation, the Americans will have to rake up the consequences of the coronavirus, protest and early discovery of the country until mid-autumn.

There is another possible reason for such a calm attitude of Trump to the epidemiological situation in the country. If, as Putin said, the governors send him away through one, then maybe they themselves can deal with COVID-19? ..
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  1. Far B
    Far B 28 June 2020 04: 46 New
    +9
    A. We will look at omega, how dangerous is the cove? Damn, it’s impossible to imagine a better scenario. Pashol for seeds
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 28 June 2020 04: 59 New
      14
      Quote: Far In
      A. We will look at omega, how dangerous is the cove? Damn, it’s impossible to imagine a better scenario. Pashol for seeds

      and the script. "zhisnigeravazhna" is also fascinating. here you can stock up on beer and fish. yes
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 28 June 2020 08: 19 New
      -5
      Quote: Dalny V
      We will look at omega, how dangerous is the cove? Damn, it’s impossible to imagine a better scenario. Pashol for seeds

      What is there to watch? That the Russian coronavirus pandemic, then the American - death. Their organisms are effeminate, spoiled in excesses.
      In Russia, this is worse. That is why the Russians are thoroughly hardened, more resistant to coronavirus. There is evidence that in some, the course of the disease passed without pronounced symptoms.
      request
    3. smart ass
      smart ass 28 June 2020 20: 20 New
      -4
      We go to the polls, endanger ourselves
    4. Vend
      Vend 29 June 2020 10: 23 New
      +4
      The United States is now tasting its pills for democracy and color revolution.
      1. major147
        major147 29 June 2020 22: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: Wend
        The United States is now tasting its pills for democracy and color revolution.

        And here is the first pill!
        "Lincoln County, Oregon, has allowed African Americans not to wear face masks in public."

        It is reported by the New York Post.
        1. Vend
          Vend 30 June 2020 16: 33 New
          0
          Quote: major147
          Quote: Wend
          The United States is now tasting its pills for democracy and color revolution.

          And here is the first pill!
          "Lincoln County, Oregon, has allowed African Americans not to wear face masks in public."

          It is reported by the New York Post.

          I don’t know what you saw there, but everything is simple, the authorities are afraid that they will be accused of racism, now prohibit something to blacks, even when it is necessary it turns into racism and turns into general persecution.
          1. major147
            major147 30 June 2020 16: 39 New
            +6
            Quote: Wend
            What you saw there, I don’t know

            I think the next step to meeting the protesting blacks will be allowing them to swim behind the buoys, stand under the load, smoke at gas stations, get into where they will kill! request
            1. Vend
              Vend 30 June 2020 17: 12 New
              +3
              Quote: major147
              Quote: Wend
              What you saw there, I don’t know

              I think the next step to meeting the protesting blacks will be allowing them to swim behind the buoys, stand under the load, smoke at gas stations, get into where they will kill! request

              The next will be, yes, already allowed - to mock whites.
              1. major147
                major147 30 June 2020 20: 19 New
                +1
                Quote: Wend
                The next will be, yes, already allowed - to mock whites.

                https://www.yaplakal.com/forum28/topic2122934.html
                Very informative....
  2. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 28 June 2020 05: 14 New
    -4
    Clearly, everything is fine with us, and America will soon be covered with a copper basin smile
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 28 June 2020 05: 16 New
      -2
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Clearly, everything is fine with us, and America will soon be covered with a copper basin smile

      duck this for many years already it is clear that America krants ... and the dollar too! wassat
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 28 June 2020 05: 19 New
      13
      who says what is good? just much better than there. it makes no sense to argue with this. and it’s strange to joke about this topic. if we don’t take steps that everyone hates so much, it would be the same if not worse. 128 thousand dead are generally terrible figures. Compare with our losses from this infection.
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 28 June 2020 05: 55 New
        -19 qualifying.
        It is interesting to know what losses we have from alcohol and tobacco and other illegal drugs.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 28 June 2020 05: 57 New
          17
          Mortality from alcohol abuse in the US has reached a 35-year record. In 2014, 30,7 thousand Americans died from poisoning, cirrhosis of the liver, and the like, more than from an overdose of drugs and drugs (28,6 thousand people). This, according to The Washington Post, is evidenced by federal statistics.

          These figures do not include death from drunk driving, alcohol-related killings and accidents. If these indicators are taken into account, then the total damage from alcohol would be 90 thousand people.

          Per capita consumption of alcoholic beverages has been growing since the late 1990s. Not so much the number of people who drink is growing as the volumes of alcohol they use. In addition, since 2002, the number of women who drink regularly (once a month or more) has increased - from 47,9 to 51,9 percent, as well as women prone to hard drinking (from 15,7 to 17,4 percent).
          will go? on drugs, the US was always ahead of the rest. in 18, 300 deaths per million people. we have 58 if you want a comparison.
          1. mmaxx
            mmaxx 28 June 2020 14: 48 New
            +5
            Yes, they do not care. Green cards will be handed out and Latinos will come. The myth of the American dream allows you to sneeze on viruses. The US population is growing.
            1. ZAV69
              ZAV69 29 June 2020 19: 14 New
              -1
              Quote: mmaxx
              Green cards will be handed out and Latinos will come.

              Why Latinos, you know how many offended in Russia with great pleasure they will rush overseas? There Skomorokhov so drowned against the amendments, he should blame him, otherwise they will come soon ...
            2. major147
              major147 30 June 2020 20: 20 New
              0
              Quote: mmaxx
              Green cards will be handed out

              By the way, nadis canceled them .....
        2. mat-vey
          mat-vey 28 June 2020 07: 00 New
          -2
          "The United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (US CDC), the World Health Organization and global health partners have estimated that up to 650 people die each year from respiratory illness caused by seasonal flu," according to new estimates.
          14th of December 2017
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 28 June 2020 07: 22 New
            +6
            who would argue that a lot of dying. that's just the point is that only in some states now 128 thousand and this is for six months. at what this is not the end at all. I myself was skeptical of this sore, but now I have changed my mind radically.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 28 June 2020 07: 24 New
              -2
              And the flu is just about six months ....
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 28 June 2020 07: 28 New
                +4
                no one denies this fact. I just imagined that this infection would be treated like flu in the world, what would be the statistics? without quarantines without other hard measures? and this garbage is still not seasonal ... the world is changing
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 28 June 2020 07: 33 New
                  -5
                  Well, if it were not for the "tough" measures, then probably just in the season they would have met ...
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 28 June 2020 07: 35 New
                    +4
                    Around the world, the number of infected more than 10 million people., Over 500 thousand people died. with quarantines and other joys. I'm afraid you are mistaken by an order of magnitude.
                    1. mat-vey
                      mat-vey 28 June 2020 07: 38 New
                      -5
                      what is "wrong"? in the fact that 500 thousand and 650 thousand are numbers of the same order?
                      1. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 28 June 2020 07: 38 New
                        +3
                        Under quarantine and hard, understand such numbers.
                      2. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 28 June 2020 07: 40 New
                        -15 qualifying.
                        what a "quarantine" - kindergartens are open at all times, children are the best testers and distributors ..
                      3. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 28 June 2020 07: 45 New
                        +7
                        what nonsense? we only opened gardens in the city on June 15 !!! Starting from June 11, 2020, in the Khabarovsk Territory, the lifting of restrictive measures taken in connection with the threat of a new type of coronary virus infection pandemic began. At the first stage, kindergartens were supposed to return to their regular regime. Corresponding orders were made locally. So, in Khabarovsk, by order No. 565, signed by the head of the Department of Education Tatyana Matveenkova, kindergartens were to open on June 15. and then opened in duty group mode. no more than 12 children
                      4. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 28 June 2020 07: 47 New
                        -10 qualifying.
                        And what is your only city? And what an interesting thing is that kindergartens are closed, that they are open - there is not much difference. Not that with the flu ..
                      5. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 28 June 2020 07: 51 New
                        +4
                        again nonsense. only since May 26, the Ministry of Education has allowed the gardens to open to the regions at their discretion. until that moment they were all closed. With the flu, this has never happened. What a "quarantine" - kindergartens work at all, children are the best testers and distributors - these are your words.
                      6. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 28 June 2020 08: 06 New
                        -6
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        since May 26, the Ministry of Education has allowed gardens to open to regions at their discretion.

                        And the duty groups didn’t work? Is it like a bit pregnant? And what does the ministry have to do with it? The governors at the local level decide? In Kuzbass, all enterprises, except for barbershops, both worked and still work, kindergartens in early April, like in "duty groups "we played ... and that's it, but where should working parents put their children?
                      7. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 28 June 2020 08: 33 New
                        +7
                        We did not work. Yes, I wouldn’t have led the youngest there anyway. I worked like my wife. the nanny is not an option we let her go. Spin as they could. grandmothers also had to beware. so also rushed about their business. this is force majeure. need to endure. in any case, if there were no such measures, there would be an order of magnitude more like the dead. it’s strange not to notice it.
                      8. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 28 June 2020 08: 37 New
                        -8
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        We did not work.

                        You didn't work for us, but the result is the same .... oh yes, it's all because of the rigidity ... Only here we have a strange "epidemic2 of incomprehensible pneumonia back in the fall of 2019 began with a peak in February 2020 ...
                      9. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 28 June 2020 08: 39 New
                        +6
                        so) then I stop talking because conspiracy theory is for you in BBS and not for me)))
                      10. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 28 June 2020 08: 52 New
                        -7
                        Yes, how convenient it is - a pandemic, conspiracy theories, whatever you want, you can dump and hide behind it .. and you will be a hero - you can hang a medal ..
                  2. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 28 June 2020 08: 50 New
                    -8
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    in any case, if these measures were not sick, there would be an order of magnitude more like the dead

                    And what measures? The abolition of benefits for pensioners in the suburban transport? The fine for walking without a mask on the street? This is instead of actually detecting and isolating the sick ... Really conspiracy thesis ....
                  3. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 28 June 2020 09: 04 New
                    +8
                    I said in Russian, finished) I do not bother you to have an opinion. it is your business. they write that they instituted a grant of 250 thousand dollars for the accuser of a vicious healthcare system) do not get lost)
                  4. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 28 June 2020 09: 11 New
                    -6
                    It’s a pity that the United States will not be paid for exposing the vicious medicine (... But I don’t get lost when - my wife does not have a third month to see a doctor with diabetes mellitus .. also a coronovirus victim ..
  • Poetry
    Poetry 28 June 2020 08: 49 New
    +1
    In the reserve of freedoms and democracies,
    The old grandfather looms, stooped and thin.
    It’s known that his name is Kondraty,
    And what looms before a terrible misfortune.

    Kondratius is worse than black cats,
    Worse than birds that beat against glass.
    Grandfather did not meow and grandfather did not beat the windows,
    Let me know that your time is up.

    Harbinger of grief, upheaval and loss,
    He was where trouble would soon be.
    Knocking his stick, shuffles Kondrat,
    Old grandfather, with a white - white beard.
    1. snake
      snake 28 June 2020 12: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Poetsisanuzla
      Grandfather did not meow and grandfather did not beat the windows,
      Let me know that your time is up.

      I haven’t read such second-rate poetry for a long time ... Neither size nor rhythm ... and terrible imagery ... Something at the Dunno level ...
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 28 June 2020 14: 14 New
        0
        After reading, he said the bespectacled schoolboy:
        "Your verse, uncle, is crooked and ugly."
        I give birth to smart building, retired proudly.
        So I wanted to shatter the face! ..

        Exhale deeply. I control myself.
        He fails to describe everything in lines.
        To say that we are all great craftsmen.
        In words - an ambal, but puny body.

        May my verse be plain and crooked
        I wrote it exactly as I could ...
        Please do not read this to the faint of heart,
        Also to people of exalted manner.
        1. snake
          snake 28 June 2020 16: 22 New
          +4
          Quote: Poetiszaugla
          So I wanted to shatter the face! ..

          Hero! As is - the hero is fabulous
          Sofa Rambo, pugnacious cockerel
          Yes, your verse is ugly and crooked
          But stupidity in our time is not a vice.

          Do not hold, uncle, you are in control
          Whatever the thought - you're her in verse
          Thoughts - rubbish, "poetry" - garbage squared
          Let me guess: Senior ward?


          Stop shaming "out of the corner of the poet"
          No talent, no sense of rhythm
          Some show off and swagger above the roof
          I hope, "Pushkin", you heard me.
          1. Poetry
            Poetry 28 June 2020 16: 41 New
            0
            Of course, it's you thoughtful and sighted,
            One trouble. Ponty yours, ka is-to. angry.
            No, I'm not going to argue until User,
            With a sofa "critic" and a "kitchen" boxer.

            Too different, you and I have ways
            By the way. Your syllable too, not so hot.
            1. snake
              snake 28 June 2020 16: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: Poetiszaugla
              Too different, you and I have ways

              Go your own way and do not star!
              1. Poetry
                Poetry 28 June 2020 16: 43 New
                0
                And you fly, mosquito. And don't itch anymore.
  • codetalker
    codetalker 28 June 2020 06: 10 New
    +9
    A rating of countries' preparedness for a pandemic will pop up in memory (there was something like that at the very beginning). And the USA there was somewhere very high. Apparently, all other Western ratings (quality of life, freedom of speech, development of people potential, etc.) are of the same quality.
    1. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 28 June 2020 06: 25 New
      10
      The United States was there in the top three in the "best medicine" ...
      And we are somewhere far below ..)
      They just forgot to turn over the list))
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 June 2020 06: 35 New
    +4
    Coronavirus mortality has declined significantly. The mortality rate is one of the lowest in the world. Our economy will catch up and not stop. Coals or flashes will be extinguished as necessary!
    Only Trump could say about the death rate "one of the lowest in the world" (exceeded 120.000 people). Wow, something to say and write on Twitter in the current situation in the country. The economy is catching up and will not stop - despite the fact that a third of the country on the street is setting white brains. And probably only whites work, who have already got their brains right? Well, about the fact that something will be extinguished there - no extinguishing is observed and in the near future it will obviously not be observed. As in that song - all is well beautiful marquis ... except for a trifle ...
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 28 June 2020 06: 42 New
    +3
    The pandemic only exacerbated the contradictions in society. A saying worked, when you point at the other with your finger, four fingers look at you. Moreover, it works in many countries where hypocritical moral bubbles blow. It worked because the world has got information technology. hope for the next president. And all in vain.
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 28 June 2020 06: 50 New
    -1
    Well, mass crowds during the epidemic, the result is one, but it doesn’t matter whether it’s holidays or protests. fool
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 June 2020 07: 05 New
    -1
    Here are the numbers for the states as of June 28.06.2020, XNUMX.
    Country: USA
    2 596 537 + 11 450 infected
    Healed 1
    Critical 15 816
    Killed 128 152 + 152
    The numbers to the right of the pluses, this is the last day (already included in the first digit)
    Around the world, the number of infected more than 10 million people., Over 500 thousand people died.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 28 June 2020 08: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      The numbers to the right of the pluses, this is the last day (already included in the first digit)

      Wrong. I know where you got these numbers, but there they are "current" during the day. You can only watch the results after 3 am. Well, or in the morning the previous day ... Infections per day at 27 - 43.500 with kopecks, deaths - more than 500 (the peak of mortality lags behind the peak of infections, for obvious reasons) ...
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 28 June 2020 09: 39 New
        -2
        Naturally change every day, but the day for us and others begin at different times. And every day I do not watch, there is no such need.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 28 June 2020 10: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Ros 56
          Naturally change every day, but the day for us and others begin at different times. And every day I do not watch, there is no such need.

          They CHANGE during the day! And judging by the numbers you quoted, look VERY superficially. Mine are the last of yesterday.
  • Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 28 June 2020 07: 14 New
    +1
    Regarding the allegedly underestimated mortality of Russia from Covid-19. My mother worked in medicine for 45 years, she said that for example, they, and therefore other medical facilities, on the contrary, overestimated the number of patients with certain diseases so that there would be more funding from the state. And she worked 10 years ago, but the system is the same. Then a reasonable thought arises for me, but are not our physicians overstating patients with Covid-19?
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 28 June 2020 07: 26 New
      -5
      Quote: Vadim Golubkov
      But are our physicians overestimating patients with Covid-19?

      And not only ours ...
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 28 June 2020 08: 12 New
        -3
        Quote: mat-vey
        Quote: Vadim Golubkov
        But are our physicians overestimating patients with Covid-19?

        And not only ours ...

        Only not ours ... yes
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 28 June 2020 08: 16 New
          -6
          Even as they overstate - hunting is an honor and respect for everyone plus a bonus ... Especially hysteria is caught up ..
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 28 June 2020 09: 44 New
          -3
          It is ours. 200 thousand rubles for each covert patient, regardless of its severity. This is Klondike!
          1. Oleg2003
            Oleg2003 28 June 2020 11: 45 New
            +1
            I am a resuscitator in Moscow. Where so much?
          2. Oleg2003
            Oleg2003 28 June 2020 11: 53 New
            +4
            Mb according to the compulsory medical insurance, and so, but severe with mechanical ventilation costs ten times more than the light course, and along with asymptomatic patients only half of them, the rest are medium and heavy. This is the first. Second: somehow -200kr sounded somehow slurred for each? For each paid m / s, doctor, hospital, city, regional health, etc.? Where is Klondike?
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 28 June 2020 08: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: Vadim Golubkov
      But are our physicians overestimating patients with Covid-19?

      Probably.
      For each patient (bed) with the virus, the hospital receives ~ 200 thousand.
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 28 June 2020 19: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Vadim Golubkov
      instead of whether our doctors overestimate the sick

      laughing laughing laughing There is such a fun resource called Sport Sru. So, after a week ago, the Rostov embarrassment and wild defeat in Sochi, the whole infantile puppy there yells that the data on the virus is underestimating, and in this regard, the championship should be stopped and the results should be canceled. yes
      But, which is characteristic, the same organisms, so far the champion. was on a pause, howled that the data was specifically overstated, and everything was going to ensure that the Czech Republic did not renew and crown ZENIT ahead of schedule. And how did some party-goers, deprived of their favorite pastime, howl about overpricing?
      However, a funny people. wassat
  • parusnik
    parusnik 28 June 2020 07: 17 New
    +6
    God bless her with America. Our virologists predict the outbreak of coronavirus this fall. That's right, people on vacation rushed. It will be like in a joke: Darling, what should you bring from vacation. Darling, anything but a tripper ...
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 28 June 2020 07: 25 New
      0
      Well, many break off holidays. Europe is not letting in and cancellation of tours is underway. and so you can choose a place with less risk and follow certain rules. but this is so-so vacation of course, from boredom you will eat crazy)))
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 28 June 2020 07: 52 New
        +2
        I did not notice that our tourists would follow the rules in our market. Our visitor differs from the local in tanning ... There are a lot of "whites" and all without masks. When there were mostly our own, it was strict. And now, with the arrival of vacationers, all the masks were removed ... Our town, the virus passed by. In winter, there is nothing to do with us ..
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 28 June 2020 07: 54 New
          0
          Well, then you have one of those places with less risk) although I would beware in your place that they would bring
      2. halpat
        halpat 28 June 2020 09: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Well, many break off holidays. Europe is not letting in and cancellation of tours is underway. and so you can choose a place with less risk and follow certain rules. but this is so-so vacation of course, from boredom you will eat crazy)))

        In the US, black riots and "Leninopad", looting and anarchy.

        Europe does not let out from the outside. But inside it opens. Tours to Greece, Croatia, the Canary Islands are already sold in full growth. Fun begins in mid / late July (depending on the country).
        The only exception to the general opening of the opening of borders in the EU is Sweden. There they had a collective (democratic course) Lukashenko at the beginning - no restrictions, no quarantines. Now they are feared in Europe.

        Russia has its own wedding - a popular vote on constitutional amendments.

        In general, everyone is actively preparing the second wave of the pandemic, as far as their strengths, capabilities and mentality are concerned.
        It is said in the fall - it will be in the fall.
        “Have you ordered a fight?” - Not. - Too late. Paid. ”
        1. depressant
          depressant 28 June 2020 09: 51 New
          +3
          Hmm ... The virus passed by.
          I thought so too. The village is small, on the outskirts, the inhabitants went in masks, gloves, there were no rumors about diseases. All the villages around are sick (I look at the data on the region every day), but we were bypassed. I was surprised. But here came a gruelingly hot summer, the masks were canceled, people rushed to the regional center, in the regional center, and a virus appeared in the porch close to me, the porch, they say, under quarantine, the entrance was not recommended to outsiders, I'm afraid to even go see what kind of inscription there is. ..
          Colleagues, I do not want to lose any of you! I urge everyone: wear masks! If possible, gloves. Remember, survivors are informal people with disabilities. I know that all this is a weak defense. Nevertheless.
          I'm masked forever.
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: depressant
            I'm masked forever.

            Lyudmila Yakovlevna! How do I recognize you? Wearing a mask? Wearing gloves? laughing love love laughing
            1. depressant
              depressant 28 June 2020 15: 28 New
              +1
              Phil, darling, you are back! How glad I am to see you! love )) the main thing is the mental look, and the outer shell - it often does not correspond to the essence of man. So I saw you on the forum, and it's great! Don't fall into the trap anymore. Before voting, they are posted everywhere on the forums))
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 28 June 2020 07: 21 New
    +1
    Fake news in the US looks like this: "According to The New York Times and Siena College, in June Joe Biden confidently bypasses the incumbent president, not only in individual states, but throughout the country." laughing
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 28 June 2020 08: 10 New
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    For me, what is the USA, what is the Moon. How many tests are done there, how the number of patients is determined - I don’t know.
    I’ll tell you about Kuzbass.
    In Kuzbass conducted more than 3,5 thousand analyzes on COVID-19. All but three tests showed a complete absence of coronavirus infection. This was reported in the press service of the administration of the government of Kuzbass with reference to the Ministry of Health of the region.

    Here's what the graph shows:

    The population of Kuzbass is 2 657 854 people. The number of tested is:
    3 600 x 100: 2 657 854 = 0, 135%
    Impressive data?
    Now we are investigating HIV. About 500 HIV tests are done annually in Kuzbass. This is about 000% of all residents. Data for today (according to data for 20):
    To date, 45 831 people with HIV infection are registered in the region.

    In 2018, 38,2 thousand people died in Kuzbass, 1750 of them from HIV.

    If we compare COVID and HIV in percentage terms, the picture emerges such that in the region there is no complete information about the spread and course of the coronavirus pandemic.
    The Americans did not believe and do not believe in the low mortality from COVID-19 in our country, blaming all the unscrupulous statistics.

    You don’t even have to invent:
    “You can't fool Babu!” She sees with her heart.
    - And then I’ll say that your mistress is right. After all, before the war, I played the piano in a restaurant.

    Can someone convince me that a disease analysis can be done on the 0, 135% number of tests?
    1. depressant
      depressant 28 June 2020 09: 56 New
      +1
      The clinic from me is three steps away. Even if they begin a voluntary check for coronavirus there, I won’t go for anything. Clinics are breeding grounds for infections, as are shops. But the more dangerous the greatest attendance is obviously sick. Disinfection with bleach does not destroy the virus.
      1. Oleg2003
        Oleg2003 28 June 2020 11: 59 New
        +2
        Chlorine destroys. Where is it used?
        1. depressant
          depressant 28 June 2020 12: 29 New
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          We wash it with an entrance. Breathe, endure. Just read that does not destroy.
          1. Oleg2003
            Oleg2003 28 June 2020 12: 37 New
            +3
            Chlorine is a very powerful bacteriological, fungicidal, viricidal agent. But also very toxic to humans. Therefore, now, as disinfectants and antiseptics, they use combination drugs: pav + bleach + alcohols + etc.
            1. Oleg2003
              Oleg2003 28 June 2020 12: 38 New
              +2
              And if the composition contains chlorine-containing va-va, then it will stink of chlorine, it will kill everything.
          2. Oleg2003
            Oleg2003 28 June 2020 12: 40 New
            +2
            Entrance is not a clinic
            1. Oleg2003
              Oleg2003 28 June 2020 12: 42 New
              +1
              And if your entrance is washed with natural bleach, they need to tear off their head
              1. depressant
                depressant 28 June 2020 12: 54 New
                0
                So they gave our cleaning lady, so she washes. She breathes the same, poor thing. Today I was surprised by something else. I went shopping. In addition to herself, in masks she counted two more people. This despite the fact that the coronavirus finally reached the village. Where people have a head, I don’t understand. A cloud of people. Explicitly resettled from the region and district.
    2. geologist
      geologist 28 June 2020 10: 07 New
      +2
      3500 people are enough, in my opinion, if the group represents a characteristic area of ​​the city. In any case, in the study of the geological set of an individual deposit, the theory allowed me, based on 425 samples, to be confident enough in calculating lead silver from any sample of samples from this site.
    3. bk316
      bk316 29 June 2020 00: 45 New
      0
      Can someone convince me that a disease analysis can be done on the 0, 135% number of tests?

      I can prove it. But to convince ....
      To do this, you must have a very good secondary or good higher mathematical education.
      However, in the second case, you yourself would not doubt laughing
  • Dmitry Donskoy_2
    Dmitry Donskoy_2 28 June 2020 08: 18 New
    -12 qualifying.
    A generation of grateful descendants of the Second World War, rejoice at the death of the United States, and they, unlike you, at one time didn’t watch how the Germans killed us.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 28 June 2020 08: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: Dmitry Donskoy_2
      and they, unlike you, at one time didn’t stop watching the Germans kill us

      Even as they looked ... and many "strong" also helped ... with money there. Joint business. That's when the war "rolled" to the West and it became clear that the Yankees would be late for the "divide", that's when they hurried ...
    2. halpat
      halpat 28 June 2020 09: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: Dmitry Donskoy_2
      A generation of grateful descendants of the Second World War, rejoice at the death of the United States, and they, unlike you, at one time didn’t watch how the Germans killed us.

      “If we see that Germany wins, then we should help Russia, if Russia will win, then we should help Germany, and thus let them kill as much as possible ...” Harry Truman, June 23, 1941.
      The future president of the United States and, as the president of the United States, who ordered the combat use of nuclear weapons against Japan at the end of July 1945 (they were bombed later in early August).
  • begemot20091
    begemot20091 28 June 2020 08: 39 New
    -2
    Quote: Dalny V
    Far In (Michael) Today, 04:46 AM NEW
    +1
    A. We will look at omega, how dangerous is the cove? Damn, it’s impossible to imagine a better scenario. Pashol for seeds

    A textbook of the Russian language for the 5th grade is better to buy.
  • Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 28 June 2020 09: 11 New
    -1
    It’s good that we don’t rally, otherwise we would have died from the virus!
    And as I understand it, the parade helped us strengthen our immunity!

    It’s business to sit on the priest evenly, watch the spectacles and approve any actions of the authorities and Kovid will not touch you, and probably the most malicious violators of the regime (both political and epidemiological) will die with us.
  • shubin
    shubin 28 June 2020 09: 24 New
    +1
    According to US statistics, 70% of coronavirus deaths are black, so let them go on fussing.
    1. bk316
      bk316 29 June 2020 00: 43 New
      0
      According to US statistics, 70% of coronavirus deaths are black,

      Surprised that not 90%. The reasons are darkness.
  • Junior Private
    Junior Private 28 June 2020 10: 29 New
    +2
    There is a strong impression that Trump's statements are primarily intended for citizens with a special level of American intellectual development. You can advertise flu pills.
  • iouris
    iouris 28 June 2020 10: 51 New
    -1
    Everything is considered a powerful hurricane.
    - Mathematical modeling is carried out, now full-scale ... Fedka how?
    - Excretion.
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 28 June 2020 14: 19 New
    +3
    To maintain order, the National Guard came out onto the streets of US cities, and removed the identification marks. Some impressionable citizens saw in this "Russian OMON".
    Previously, like Defense Secretary Forrestal, they were afraid that "the Russians are coming," but now they are in a panic that the Russians have already arrived.
  • bk316
    bk316 29 June 2020 00: 40 New
    0
    Everything is written correctly. Who cares, you can read my comments 2 months ago.
    We were still crawling (flying) laughing ) up, and the US confidently sat on a plateau. All matmodels showed a decline in mid-June and ending in mid-July.
    And then this epic with blacks. Throw away all models and make new ones. Now 4 lyamas are possible ....
  • Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 29 June 2020 02: 02 New
    +1
    Are you serious about the correlation of the virus with mass protests?
    Then think it over. About a million people face Moscow almost round-the-clock — in subway cars, on escalators, in walkways, etc.
    No, I admit a correlation with the protests, but ... this correlation is implicit, speaking in the language of mathematics. For example, the Pope refused to publish materials from the archives of the Second World War - and in Italy, what everyone knows began right there. Does Italian virus correlate with Pope's intransigence?
    Or Chinese virus - correlates with protests in Hong Kong? (The protests ended when all the Chinese were driven home)
    Etc.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 June 2020 22: 05 New
    0
    Someone pays for these protests. Question who? You can break through the bottom of the caronovirus. For some reason, it’s not at all a pity. In general, the caronovirus is an international conspiracy, let more Americans think so. Comrades, you’ll go in the right direction in the stern.
  • Alex Parabellum
    Alex Parabellum 3 July 2020 09: 08 New
    0
    You also need to think about the fact that medicine in the USA is paid: "we will cure you of the virus, but then pay for the rest of your life." In this situation, not everyone will go to the hospital, which means that it will not be possible to identify all the infected. It was predictable. Most likely, the virus will pose a threat to the United States for a long time.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 3 July 2020 22: 13 New
    +1
    I look at the black square and the soul rejoices. Sin is certainly great, so to speak. Pity people and the country. And in 1991, they regretted my country? ..
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  • Brigadier
    Brigadier 4 July 2020 07: 42 New
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    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
    I look at the black square and the soul rejoices. Sin is certainly great, so to speak. Pity people and the country. And in 1991, they regretted my country? ..

    I support with both hands and also rejoice. Let them receive a complete spoonful of an answer.
    And I don’t need to talk about America’s "common people who are not involved in politics".
    This is the same "common people" as the "common people" of Germany was at one time, standing in the amount of 157 divisions on our border on June 22, 1941 ...
    And he hates us just as much as the Germans did in his time.