“Kill him!”: How the US Air Force fighter pilots instill an “air battle culture”

American military analyst Tyler Rogoway writes about the problems of training fighter pilots in the US Air Force and the relationship between the cadet and instructor during training flights and training air battles.

How does Rogov emphasize on The Drive pages? a good instructor pilot can play a decisive role in fulfilling the dream of heaven for a motivated cadet. This role especially increases with the transition from mastering aircraft control to the study of tactics of air combat. The video presented in the article was shot during the execution of the training program for fighter aviation IFF, which is fundamental to the training of the US Air Force fighter pilots.

IFF is an eight-week course designed to turn newly graduated pilots selected for fighter flights into real fighter pilots. The 49th training fighter squadron trains pilots by teaching them discipline and instilling the appropriate culture of combat aviation pilots.

We are a fighter squadron. All our instructors are fighter pilots. We have a unique culture,

says Major Michael Overstreet, assistant commander of the 49th Squadron.

It is interesting that before completing the course, the future fighter pilot must undergo 53-week training in a special pilot training course, during which he will gain knowledge about the characteristics of the aircraft, the take-off and landing process, and high-flying pilot, and will master the skills of responding to emergency and emergency situations.

Only in this case, the pilot will switch to the IFF course, where he will be trained for flying on such fighters as the F-22 Raptor and F-35A Lightning II. But first, the pilot will have to study on the T-38C Talon - a training jet aircraft that have been used for more than half a century to train pilots of American fighter aircraft.

We are trying to help reduce training from pilot training to this course. That’s why we use this program as a means to absorb a fighter culture and understand what it means to be a fighter pilot,

says Captain Cole Stegeman of the 49th Squadron, who oversees the planning of the training process.

In the video presented in The Drive, you can watch a cadet master the tactics of air combat on a fighter. Maneuvers are performed with corrective comments from the instructor sitting in the back seat.

When the enemy’s plane falls into the cadet’s visibility range, the instructor shouts:

Follow him! Kill him! Kill him! Kill him! Kill him! Come on, he's ahead! Shoot him!

The cadet disappointedly exclaims:

I'm trying to!

A certain rigidity of the instructor is necessary in order to raise from a young cadet a real air wolf of American military aviation, as the American pilots themselves say.

Here is the T-38C pilot instructor. This is truly a teacher who shapes the lives of students through special care!

- summarizes what Tyler Rogov sees.

Comments

[AU Ivanov.]

Kill him! So for this, a fighter was created - to exterminate, and not for VIP-side escorts.

[vvvjak]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

So for this, a fighter was created - to exterminate

Not only. To prevent extermination (of the same attack aircraft or bombers) is a much more important task.

[Zeev zeev]

To prevent the destruction of their attack aircraft and bombers generally involves the destruction of other people's aircraft.

[vvvjak]

As the practice of the Second World War shows, this is not entirely true or even completely wrong.

[Zeev zeev]

Now, however much the 1943th year, and the air war has changed a lot. In addition, the practice of World War II just shows that in order to effectively protect their bombers, the enemy should not be driven away, giving him the initiative, but just attack and, if possible, destroy. The same American fighters acted accompanied by their bombers extremely aggressively, which greatly reduced losses.

[Pereira]

The practice of WWII shows that first you need to clear the sky at the attack site, and then send bombers with cover, the purpose of which is to drive off the enemy.
But in general, the process is more complicated than I described.

[vvvjak]

Quote: ZeevZeev

that in order to effectively protect their bombers, the enemy should not be driven away, giving him the initiative, but just attack and, if possible, destroy

I tell you about the priorities of the tasks, you tell me about the methods for achieving them.

Quote: ZeevZeev

Now it’s not the year 1943,

And the sense of 50 destroyed f - 35, if a combat mission is allowed to fail at least one Tu 160.

[Zeev zeev]

Well, 50 F-35 still need to bring down. The point is that not one of them could attack the bomber. The priority of tasks does not at all affect the need to destroy enemy aircraft. In World War II, both Germans and Americans initially cleared the battlefield, linking enemy fighters in battle, and then big uncles came with big bombs.

[NIKN]

I don’t even know how to comment .... I’m trying to remember when the last time there was a similar melee .... Vietnam seems to pop up. In modern conditions, it’s probably possible, but they don’t fight like that now. All possible forces and means are involved as controls, air defense, electronic warfare .... It is possible to break into a close combat range, but this is some kind of extreme case, we still have to try. Although combat maneuvering in the KBP is ...

[5-9]

But why? Eritrea vs Ethiopia, Su-27 vs MiG-29 .... all but one shot down - BVB. With equal technical and organizational potential without a BVB, nothing ... the Turks against the Greeks so called the BVB (well, as they called it - the Greeks sadankli and shot down it with a rocket) over the past 30 years, that they lost a dozen planes in accidents

[NIKN]

Quote: 5-9

Eritrea vs Ethiopia

Well, yes, if there is something to remember ...

Quote: 5-9

With equal technical and organizational potential

Rather, at low ... In more serious conflicts, it’s possible, but I say it’s difficult to break through to the BVB

[5-9]

Well, imagine that on both sides of the DRLOU, jammers, stealths such as Su-57 and F-22 and URVV SD-BD .... then shoot them at the limit of range with a low probability of destruction due to interference, low ESR of the enemy, loss energy and high maneuverability of aircraft, and then shoot them again if you didn’t shoot ... 10 seconds after launch and you are in the area of ​​operation of the OLS and missiles with infrared seeker

[NIKN]

I don’t argue, only the battle will begin before the planes are raised (well, it should), there are many factors ... They won’t be confronted one by one, here the organization of the battle from the command post controls how many forces and means to use, how many groups, from which directions where air defense will work, well, electronic warfare will work everywhere, well, there are many factors. proceeding from this, and I say ... Well, yes, then they agreed ...

[Zeev zeev]

The last time such battles were during the Gulf War, if I am not mistaken.

[bk0010]

Due to electronic warfare, stelts and super maneuverability, close combat becomes most relevant. But the relevance of Foxfight has always been in question: the same Phoenix lost its goal itself (without enemy opposition) in about half of the launches. And it cost - a lemon of old bucks each. And even F-14 could drag them no more than 6 pieces.

[Thrifty]

Yeah, and the pilot of the victim's plane at this time yells for the whole broadcast "I'm paying a piece of bucks so as not to knock me down"

[Igor Polovodov]

.... If you are a fascist with a gun
You do not want to give up forever
The house where you lived, your wife and mother,
All that we call home, -
Know: no one will save her,
If you do not save her;
Know: no one will kill him,
If you do not kill him.
And while he did not kill him,
You keep silent about your love,
The land where you grew up, and the house where you lived,
Do not call your homeland.
Let your brother kill the fascist,
Let the neighbor kill the fascist, -
It's your brother and neighbor who take revenge,
And you do not have excuses.
Behind someone else's back they do not sit,
They do not take revenge on someone else's rifle.
Since your brother killed the fascist, -
It's him, not you soldier ....

K. Simonov, Poems about love (fragment)
_____________________________________
For defenders, the word is appropriate - kill ...
for invaders - no!

[Pereira]

What if an adversary pilots a black man? What, then, does the instructor shout to the white cadet?
Follow him! Give him money! Give him! Give him! Give him! Give him! Come on, he's ahead! Kiss him!

[AU Ivanov.]

Born to play basketball, can not fly.

[hohol95]

Are there any "descendants of the Tuskegee Pilots" in the modern American Air Force ???
Or is it really just running, basketball, football and service in parts not related to flying at high speeds?

[Aleksandre]

And who would have thought that fighters were created to kill enemy equipment, sometimes - even together with pilots. What is the article about? About the "lack of spirituality" of American pilots?

[iouris]

Just the Russian language is richer in words. There are many options to say the same thing. In the American language there is an excessively large load on words. One and the same word can have a lot of meanings. And their culture of murder, of course, is high. Much higher.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: iouris

Just the Russian language is richer in words. There are many options to say the same thing. In the American language there is an excessively large load on words. One and the same word can have a lot of meanings. And their culture of murder, of course, is high. Much higher.

The modern Russian literary language is approximately 150 words, if with dialectisms, then 000.
Webster's Dictionary of 1961 - 400 words.
I do not know where this bike came from about the wealth of the Russian language, and the poverty of English (American).

[Pereira]

400 is small. Some and a million get it. Taking into account the names of chemicals, public organizations, symbols for the designations of the sizes of sheets of paper: A000, A3, A4. etc.
And the millionth word in English is Web 2.0!
So less - not solid. The hosts will not approve. Here on this figure and pray.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Pereira

400 is small. Some and a million get it. Taking into account the names of chemicals, public organizations, symbols for the designations of the sizes of sheets of paper: A000, A3, A4. etc.
And the millionth word in English is Web 2.0!
So less - not solid. The hosts will not approve. Here on this figure and pray.

Somewhere I brought the figure to a million, or maybe referred to the calculation of GLM? No need to ascribe to me your fantasies, for which you apparently just pray.

[Pereira]

And I don’t say that you named her. I wrote some. But the meaning is the same. In England, everything is thicker. I discussed about banderlog about 10 years ago. They were very complex due to the small volume of words in Ukrainian dictionaries, admired hundreds of thousands of English and set this as an example of backward Russia. Today I read, as if I plunged into the past.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Pereira

And I don’t say that you named her. I wrote some. But the meaning is the same. In England, everything is thicker. I discussed about banderlog about 10 years ago. They were very complex due to the small volume of words in Ukrainian dictionaries, admired hundreds of thousands of English and set this as an example of backward Russia. Today I read, as if I plunged into the past.

Again - I wrote somewhere that the Russian language is poorer? Or is English worse? Both are comparable in terms of the vocabulary of the literary language, both are used by the vast majority of tongue-tied baboons for almost a twentieth part (at best).
Ellochka forever!

[Pereira]

The modern Russian literary language is approximately 150 words, if with dialectisms, then 000.
Webster's Dictionary of 1961 - 400 words.
I do not know where this bike came from about the wealth of the Russian language, and the poverty of English (American).

It is with this phrase - a refutation using numbers that you expressly declare that English is richer than Russian.
Or should it be understood otherwise?

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Pereira

The modern Russian literary language is approximately 150 words, if with dialectisms, then 000.
Webster's Dictionary of 1961 - 400 words.
I do not know where this bike came from about the wealth of the Russian language, and the poverty of English (American).

It is with this phrase - a refutation using numbers that you expressly declare that English is richer than Russian.
Or should it be understood otherwise?

Personally, I think that Webster’s Dictionary also includes dialectisms, but since I quickly did not find confirmation of this, I did not write.

[Pereira]

This statement is already closer to the truth. I have given above examples of how to wind the counter to be the coolest.

[Aleksandre]

Here 400k, there 400k ... What is the question, then? Dialectisms are the same used words.

[Pereira]

Now you are writing completely sound thoughts.
There are 2 questions in the language topic:
1st how to count? And the techniques are different.
2nd, what method should be chosen so that everyone thinks that the English language is the coolest on the planet and that 6 billion people should experience an inferiority complex? Hence the million. Anglo-Saxons have found such a technique.
But our researchers do not chase the shaft and do not include in the list of 200 thousand obsolete words, the same number of regional dialects and an uncountable number of obscene derivatives.
We assume that in the first post they just got excited.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Pereira

1st how to count? And the techniques are different.

That 400k words, that a million is sheer writing, no more than that, because this is a count of what is interesting exclusively to narrow philologists, and even then not everyone. It makes sense, in my opinion, a technique that gives either an average number of words used in everyday life in different countries, and / or by the social groups of these countries, that is, speech as an indicator of the volume of thinking and education.

2nd, what method should be chosen so that everyone thinks that the English language is the coolest on the planet and that 6 billion people should experience an inferiority complex? Hence the million. Anglo-Saxons have found such a technique.

I strongly doubt that the GLM numbers are misleading so many.
And the "coolness" of English is more in the fact that it is relatively simple and very widespread in the ball, that is, it is universal for communication at the moment.

But our researchers do not chase the shaft and do not include in the list of 200 thousand obsolete words, the same number of regional dialects and an uncountable number of obscene derivatives.

Funny moment: in the publication of the Webster dictionary of the late 30s, there were something around 600 words. 000k was already in the sixties. But I’m saying this again not at all in order to somehow humiliate Russian, English, French ... This is a general tendency to degradation, so to speak, but the science fiction of the past predicted that with the development of sciences, arts and other things that require verbal descriptions, the number of words required for all these descriptions will increase, and here the alphabetical letter will greatly outperform the hieroglyphic. Yeah.
By the way, a similar degradation has occurred in music since the late 60s, which is no less sad.
I signed up today, thanks for the conversation)

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Aleksandre

Again - I wrote somewhere that the Russian language is poorer? Or is English worse? Both are comparable in terms of the vocabulary of the literary language, both are used by the vast majority of tongue-tied baboons for almost a twentieth part (at best).

But they have less letters in the alphabet. And in general, pooh on them, an article about something else.

[Jack O'Neill]

Everything went from Zadornov. Our language is the richest, we are the very first people on Earth, we are the most spiritual, the smartest, the most beautiful and, in general, the very most.
In the end, Zadornov’s jokes entered our culture, therefore, we seriously believe that the Russian people are the most, and all the rest, well, are in the middle (we are in the top five!).
Oh, that reminds me of that, the middle of the 20th century ...) However, we will never recognize this.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Everything went from Zadornov. Our language is the richest, we are the very first people on Earth, we are the most spiritual, the smartest, the most beautiful and, in general, the very most.
In the end, Zadornov’s jokes entered our culture, therefore, we seriously believe that the Russian people are the most, and all the rest, well, are in the middle (we are in the top five!).
Oh, that reminds me of that, the middle of the 20th century ...) However, we will never recognize this.

Do not blame Zadornov alone, he just gave what the audience eagerly demanded.
After all, it’s pleasant for the cancer set to think that there is more shaggy of it, and indeed in the far edges they wipe the ass with a mug, and besides, all completely unspiritual personalities doomed to die.

[Jack O'Neill]

Do not blame Zadornov alone, he just gave what the audience eagerly demanded.

Here you can argue.
In my childhood, we did not consider ourselves better than the rest, both we children and adults. But when these Anschlagi went here (my mother loved such programs very much) and Zadornov’s concerts, it went off.

After all, it’s pleasant for the cancer set to think that there is more shaggy of it, and indeed in the far edges they wipe the ass with a mug, and besides, all completely unspiritual personalities doomed to die.

Maybe I got at a time when there was a respite from this, when Western culture and goods poured into the country (I am 89-year-old).
But here, as I wrote above, it went with Zadornov.
I can be mistaken, because I did not live in the Union, and I did not ask my relatives about this.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

In my childhood, we did not consider ourselves better than the rest, both we children and adults. But when these Anschlagi went here (my mother loved such programs very much) and Zadornov’s concerts, it went off.

Yes, you can always argue about anything) But not a single piece of art or "art" (as you like to define Zadornov's monologues more) will ever "shoot" without having an audience waiting for him, he simply will not be understood. And the end of the 80s for the USSR and the beginning of the 90s for Russia were already fertile ground for stories on the topic "we are one fig better than everyone else."

I can be mistaken, because I did not live in the Union, and I did not ask my relatives about this.

We missed a lot of "interesting")

[Jack O'Neill]

Yes, you can always argue about anything) But not a single piece of art or "art" (as you like to define Zadornov's monologues more) will ever "shoot" without having an audience waiting for him, he simply will not be understood. And the end of the 80s for the USSR and the beginning of the 90s for Russia were already fertile ground for stories on the topic "we are one fig better than everyone else."

There is a product, but a buyer will always be found.

[Zeev zeev]

Excuse me, but in your childhood there were no jokes about stupid Chukchi, greedy Jews, homosexual inclinations of Georgians (and all Caucasians were called Georgians), Ukrainians Russophobes, stupid Moldovans, inhibited Balts? Or anecdotes about a Russian, an American and a Frenchman, where Russian necessarily wins due to ingenuity? Nobody said to you: "Why are you like a non-Russian?"

[Aleksandre]

Quote: ZeevZeev

Excuse me, but in your childhood there were no jokes about stupid Chukchi, greedy Jews, homosexual inclinations of Georgians (and all Caucasians were called Georgians), Ukrainians Russophobes, stupid Moldovans, inhibited Balts? Or anecdotes about a Russian, an American and a Frenchman, where Russian necessarily wins due to ingenuity? Nobody said to you: "Why are you like a non-Russian?"

Such jokes have always been, probably are (and will be) in any nation, except for those that do not know how to tell jokes) But not with crowded rooms and millions watching on TV during an hour and a half performance.

[Zeev zeev]

Such anecdotes were, are and will be in any community, whose members consider themselves better than those about whom these anecdotes tell. Americans tell such anecdotes about blacks and Mexicans, the British about the Irish, in Israel one community tells such jokes about another (about greedy "Yemeni", explosive "Moroccans" and "Caucasians", stupid "Kurds", always drunk and dirty "Russians" men and "Russian" women-prostitutes ("Russians" include everyone who speaks Russian, except for "Georgians," married to such a wife) ... But this is completely unrelated to the position in which a given people or community stands, it is connected with the attitude towards neighbors of a different race, nationality or just a cultural group.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: ZeevZeev

But this is completely unrelated to the position in which the given people or community stands, it is related to the attitude to the neighbors of another race, nationality or just a cultural group.

And you did not notice that the more a person is humiliated, the more he wants to recoup on someone else? In order to feel that there is someone who is even worse (it’s bad to be stupid Chukchi, for example).

[Jack O'Neill]

Excuse me, but in your childhood there were no jokes about stupid Chukchi, greedy Jews, homosexual inclinations of Georgians (and all Caucasians were called Georgians), Ukrainians Russophobes, stupid Moldovans, inhibited Balts? Or anecdotes about a Russian, an American and a Frenchman, where Russian necessarily wins due to ingenuity? Nobody said to you: "Why are you like a non-Russian?"

Well, about the Jews and the Chukchi, but about the Baltic states, Ukrainians and Georgians were not, at least not to recall.

[Zeev zeev]

It is possible, it depends on the geography. There were other nationalities in your area that were described as anecdotes.

[Jack O'Neill]

It is possible, it depends on the geography. There were other nationalities in your area that were described as anecdotes.

I'm from Peter. I heard jokes about Russian, German, Frenchman and American.

[Glory1974]

Everything went from Zadornov.

If you were in a Soviet school, you would definitely study the works of the classics of Russian literature. And then maybe they would have learned about the writer Turgenev, who wrote at the end of the 19th century "O rich and powerful Russian language."
About Zadornov had fun, thanks

[Jack O'Neill]

If you were in a Soviet school, you would definitely study the works of the classics of Russian literature. And then maybe they would have learned about the writer Turgenev, who wrote at the end of the 19th century "About the rich and powerful Russian language"

I studied at a Russian school, but Turgenev passed, read, and not only him. For some reason, Pushkin was remembered most of all, there are direct retelling, poems, etc., we did most of it.

[sharp-lad]

For some reason I remember Pushkin most of all,
Truly Pushkin was a great African Russian who glorified the greatness of the Russian language.

[sharp-lad]

I do not want to criticize English, but the semantic load on the word in it is a little too big.

[Alex Justice]

I never liked Zadornov. Vulgar rustic jokes.

[iouris]

You did not understand. The American language is the language of business, the binary number system does not tolerate options: either 0 or 1. This is both an advantage and a disadvantage. English is an artificial language created after the arrival of the Venetians (not all, but only "merchants" - the richest families in the world) to the islands.

[Aleksandre]

English is the language of the Anglo-Frisian subgroup of the western group of the German branch.
American is a subspecies of English, as is the Australian dialect, for example.
Binary reckoning (well, in its modern form) is generally Leibniz.
I really didn’t understand anything)

[sharp-lad]

The modern Russian literary language is approximately 150 words, if with dialectisms, then 000.
Webster's Dictionary of 1961 - 400 words.
I dare to ask, words or derivatives of words mixed up with phrases and phrases?

[Aleksandre]

Quote: sharp-lad

[i] I dare to ask, words or derivatives of words mixed up with phrases and phrases?

Words, not phrases and phrases, but with dialectisms, jargon, etc. For 400k for each great literature.

[Alex Justice]

Russian is richer thanks to suffixes, prefixes and any word order in the sentence, which makes it possible to play with the meaning of the sentence.
In English there is none of this, everything is strictly in order, as in the army.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Alex Justice

Russian is richer thanks to suffixes, prefixes and any word order in the sentence, which makes it possible to play with the meaning of the sentence.
In English there is none of this, everything is strictly in order, as in the army.

But the Yangloyaz love to joke with numerous meanings of words;)
Why do cows have horns?
Because their horns don't work!

[Brigadier]

The instructor is 100% right.
This is a war and there is only one rule - if you don’t kill, they will kill you.

The only thing he can be wrong about was already said by the rabbit from "Winnie the Pooh" when Winnie the Pooh and Piglet came to visit him: "And there is no need to shout like that!"

[Kurare]

Some very "funny" instructor got caught, homeric laughter and incessant "kill'em". It seems that the instructor is also playing a computer game as a fan.

I wonder what in this case our instructors say?

[Free wind]

So it should be, but how else? Apparently, a year must be studied for a pilot’s diploma. Great, just training, I think it's right. Actually, they give them a license for Cesna after 5 hours of theory and 10 hours of practice, and fly.

[zlinn]

do not exaggerate, after 150 hours of theory (although if you can pass the exams, then you can not study at all) and at least 40 hours of practice (but I know of no one who would pass in less than 60)

[NordUral]

We must shout: "Shoot him down!"

[Poetry]

"I'm trying to!" - were his last words. Amen.

[AU Ivanov.]

And the last word of the instructor was - "Look how I can"

[lucul]

When the enemy’s plane falls into the cadet’s visibility range, the instructor shouts:

Follow him! Kill him! Kill him! Kill him! Kill him! Come on, he's ahead! Shoot him!

The cadet disappointedly exclaims:

I'm trying to!

Well .....
A cadet is completely incapable of accepting the challenge - it’s not his ... In vain the instructor tries to wake the man inside him. It would be better if the cadet went to the cook ....

[AU Ivanov.]

Or in transporters.

[Shahno]

Quote: NIKNN

I don’t even know how to comment .... I’m trying to remember when the last time there was a similar melee .... Vietnam seems to pop up. In modern conditions, it’s probably possible, but they don’t fight like that now. All possible forces and means are involved as controls, air defense, electronic warfare .... It is possible to break into a close combat range, but this is some kind of extreme case, we still have to try. Although combat maneuvering in the KBP is ...

I heard you flew instantly?

[svp67]

The pilot, the pilot is still discordant, if you are not aggressive enough, then why don’t you be in the cockpit of an attack aircraft, maybe it’s better to carry passengers?

[Shahno]

Quote: Shahno

Quote: NIKNN

I don’t even know how to comment .... I’m trying to remember when the last time there was a similar melee .... Vietnam seems to pop up. In modern conditions, it’s probably possible, but they don’t fight like that now. All possible forces and means are involved as controls, air defense, electronic warfare .... It is possible to break into a close combat range, but this is some kind of extreme case, we still have to try. Although combat maneuvering in the KBP is ...

I heard you flew instantly?

III? How?

[APASUS]

“Kill him!”: How the US Air Force fighter pilots instill an “air battle culture”

And how does this differ from the cult of humiliation of recruits in the US Army?

[flicker]

“Kill him!”: How the US Air Force fighter pilots instill an “air battle culture”

Looks like John McCain also shouted like that.
Well, he and that ... half of the aircraft carrier and "took out".
One word "culture"

[Tiratori]

The most interesting thing is not the screams of the instructor, but his work RUS, the pilot always shakes the plane, plus instr several times prompted him (sort of) to lower his nose so as not to lose speed, and he drove him into a mustache no longer than intended - definitely DOES NOT READ ...