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Putin did not rule out the possibility of nominating for a new term

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One of the presidential statements discussed today is devoted to new presidential terms. Recall that earlier, from the rostrum of the State Duma, an initiative was voiced about the so-called “zeroing” of the deadlines after voting on numerous amendments to the Constitution of the country — it was voiced by Valentina Tereshkova. This initiative has already managed to make a lot of noise.


Today, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that he does not exclude the possibility of running for the next presidential term if the amendments to the Basic Law are finally adopted.

The head of state made such a statement on the air of the Russia 1 TV channel.

At the same time, Putin added that he had not yet made a final decision for himself, but still did not exclude the possibility of running for president.

In addition, the head of state said that if the adoption of the relevant amendment (on “zeroing out” the term of the presidency) does not happen, then after two years "instead of normal work, yawing will begin in search of possible successors." Putin noted that he knows about such “yaw” from his own experience, and officials at various levels are engaged in “yaw”.

According to the president of the country, he personally firmly believes in the correctness of the adoption of amendments to the Constitution, since the current Basic Law was adopted in a “difficult period - when Tanks shot at parliament. ” In this regard, it is difficult to say what period in stories Our country of recent decades can be called simple.

A few days earlier, the head of state said that the majority of Russians supported the introduction of amendments.
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  1. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 21 June 2020 15: 17 New
    -47
    I never voted for him, but now seeing how all the dirt is writhing from him, I’m thinking of voting.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 22 New
      10
      But I voted for him ... there were no more presidential contenders of this magnitude.
      And so far no one has been seen on the horizon who could reach for the presidency with him.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 21 June 2020 15: 28 New
        60
        Quote: The same Lech
        And so far no one has been seen on the horizon who could reach for the presidency with him.

        And it won’t be observed .. as long as he will rule .. he doesn’t need competitors .. he’s afraid of debate ..
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 21 June 2020 15: 41 New
          17
          there were no more presidential candidates of this magnitude.
          And until it is observed on the horizon

          The wardrobe of any bad housewife is teeming with them.

          his competitors are not nuny .. he’s afraid of debate ..

          Debate needs to be held with an opponent, not with a friend - questions will be non-stop, and most likely, uncomfortable. Will constantly stutter and cough. Secondly, having gathered in the "autocrats", one must be exalted by all, otherwise they will not believe in "divinity" and the letter "u" will be deservedly added.
          1. Ilya-spb
            Ilya-spb 21 June 2020 15: 58 New
            -37
            In the days of doubt and painful reflection, I decided to support Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.

            I weighed two things.

            1) the amendments to the Constitution themselves. Many are very necessary.
            I like the ban on dual citizenship for officials and the ban on cash accounts abroad.
            I support the priority of Russian law over international, even through a constitutional court.

            2) I observed almost the entire quarantine of the angry statements of a number of fellow citizens, turning into hysteria. They are based on the following points:

            - amendments are being made to nullify Putin’s presidential terms.
            - it is necessary to prohibit / boycott the vote because the people decide nothing / the government falsifies everything.

            I have weighed everything. Opponents of the vote for amendments criticize only one amendment - about zeroing the deadlines. About the others - they say almost nothing.

            Opponents of the amendments are not confident in the people. For me, this last thing is to not be sure of the ability of our people to reason and think freely.

            Our people remember the waste of Perestroika-Catastrophe, the "dashing nineties", and the permanent financial crisis. By the way, under Putin there is no such inflation as in the 90s. Let me remind you this too.

            Therefore - I’ll go to vote. And I will say yes to the amendments.

            And that's why I support the amendments. I do not want a repeat of either 1917 or 1991.

            Russia needs a quiet development.
            1. Sahalinets
              Sahalinets 21 June 2020 16: 02 New
              67
              Yeah, man! For 20 years your idol has steered the country and it is necessary, we are again in a critical situation!
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 21 June 2020 16: 14 New
                47
                Yeah, man!

                Colleague hi , reading this epic, I immediately remembered the works of the “daughter of an officer”. As if carved on a carbon copy. "I never, but nonetheless always ..." laughing
                1. A good one
                  A good one 21 June 2020 16: 50 New
                  -40
                  Quote: lexus
                  Yeah, man!

                  Colleague hi , reading this epic, I immediately remembered the works of the “daughter of an officer”. As if carved on a carbon copy. "I never, but nonetheless always ..." laughing

                  My joy wink I look perebulsya laughing I won’t give the pipe, the horse and the wife to anyone, I started to look from the horse, who is next? A piece of wood or a wife? request
                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 21 June 2020 17: 21 New
                    26
                    And I always voted for Putin, because I thought that the alternatives were worse.
                    But this "nulling" disappointed me in it. Too frank mockery of the law. It seems to have lost his grip.
                    In the elections I will be against him. But for whom - I don’t know yet. We will see.
                    1. smart ass
                      smart ass 21 June 2020 19: 20 New
                      34
                      Do you like the pension reform?
                      1. Simargl
                        Simargl 21 June 2020 21: 35 New
                        -17
                        Quote: Clever man
                        Do you like the pension reform?
                        What exactly? Age would be sold anyway. Do you know that it is not necessary that the president approve the adoption of the law? And he signature must to deliver, in accordance with the Constitution, in a certain case, otherwise all sorts of impeachments, etc.
                      2. victor50
                        victor50 21 June 2020 22: 25 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Simargl
                        And he is obliged to put a signature, according to the Constitution, in a certain case, otherwise all sorts of impeachments, etc.

                        Where did you hear that? Explicitly not read.
                      3. Simargl
                        Simargl 22 June 2020 04: 54 New
                        +1
                        Quote: victor50
                        Explicitly not read.
                        Was reading. And you read.

                    2. Revival
                      Revival 22 June 2020 00: 14 New
                      -5
                      There is such a Boris here, so he pushes it to the point of madness.
                      So we already discussed this and took it apart! Five times! Especially at the time of signing a retirement ..
                      That's it!
                      The president is not obliged to sign anything, in a situation when the thought persists, just the duma is ultimately not good.
                      That correspondence was not preserved (I copied), but there is a similar dispute with Boris about the prime minister and the Duma and the president, all about the president’s same duty to come to terms and sign!
                      And the reality (constitution) is somewhat different:

                      "Article 111 After a three-fold rejection of the nominations of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation by the State Duma, the President of the Russian Federation shall appoint the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, dissolve the State Duma and call new elections.
                      Art. The President of the Russian Federation may decide on the resignation of the Government of the Russian Federation.

                      3. The State Duma may express no confidence in the Government of the Russian Federation. The decision on no confidence in the Government of the Russian Federation is adopted by a majority vote of the total number of deputies of the State Duma. After the State Duma expresses no confidence in the Government of the Russian Federation, the President of the Russian Federation has the right to announce the resignation of the Government of the Russian Federation or to disagree with the decision of the State Duma. If the State Duma reiterates its distrust of the Government of the Russian Federation within three months, the President of the Russian Federation announces the resignation of the Government or dissolves the State Duma. "
                    3. Simargl
                      Simargl 22 June 2020 05: 10 New
                      0
                      Quote: Revival
                      And the reality (constitution) is somewhat different:
                      "Article 111
                      And what about 107?
                    4. flicker
                      flicker 22 June 2020 11: 52 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Revival
                      And the reality (constitution) is somewhat different:
                      "Article 111
                      And what about 107?

                      Revival is still a connoisseur of law. He then claimed that in the amendments, “the family is the union of a man and a woman,” confusing the family with marriage.
                      He asserted that the UN Security Council adopts resolutions on human rights, confusing it with the UN General Assembly.
                      ---
                      Here also Art. 107, which regulates the procedure for adopting a federal law (which, under the Constitution, are obliged to comply with international standards), it contrasts art. 111, which deals with the president’s right to appoint a prime minister, once again: the prime minister, and not the adoption of the Federal Law.
                      ---
                      Like, since he can push the prime minister by law, he can stop the adoption of the Federal Law on the basis of the same law.
                      ---
                    5. Simargl
                      Simargl 22 June 2020 19: 08 New
                      +1
                      Quote: flicker
                      He contrasts Art. 111, which deals with the president’s right to appoint a prime minister, again:
                      Here, as I understand it, a pout attempt to protest my statement that
                      Quote: Simargl
                      he must sign, according to the Constitution, in a particular case, otherwise any impeachment etc.

                      There are very many at first minus, and then ... maybe ... deign to think.
              2. pereselenec
                pereselenec 22 June 2020 01: 53 New
                +2
                Quote: Simargl
                he must sign, according to the Constitution, in a certain case, otherwise all kinds of impeachments, etc.

                If he doesn’t, then, of course, Obama will come with a Mauser and will shoot his head off. So it seems to you that they are being poured into the NOD? laughing
              3. Simargl
                Simargl 22 June 2020 19: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: pereselenec
                So it seems that they are being poured into your NOD?
                I do not touch the NOD. I just read the Constitution for fun, I was a little surprised. So: Article 107 of the Constitution regulates this moment (obliges the president to sign).
                You will learn to read in your incomprehensible camp (not GCD, as I understand it) (not only what I wrote).
              4. pereselenec
                pereselenec 23 June 2020 17: 52 New
                -1
                Quote: Simargl
                Quote: pereselenec
                So it seems that they are being poured into your NOD?
                I do not touch the NOD. I just read the Constitution for fun, I was a little surprised. So: Article 107 of the Constitution regulates this moment (obliges the president to sign).
                You will learn to read in your incomprehensible camp (not GCD, as I understand it) (not only what I wrote).


                Otherwise, Matvienko, Volodin and Tereshkova will impeach Putin, of course wassat
              5. Simargl
                Simargl 24 June 2020 04: 38 New
                0
                Quote: pereselenec
                Matvienko, Volodin and Tereshkova
                The President is a protege. You don’t know the story: both the pus-secs were displaced, and the kings fell down to the right and left.
            2. Nosgoth
              Nosgoth 23 June 2020 19: 10 New
              0
              Here, many do not know how to read, in one word (EBNi) - "electorate". Sometimes it seems that the number of schoolchildren - admirers of Navalny, here every month is growing exponentially.
        2. Shurik70
          Shurik70 22 June 2020 23: 08 New
          0
          Quote: Clever man
          Do you like the pension reform?

          Politicians who care about the people in the modern world are only in fairy tales (in the sense, in the movies). In reality, they take care of themselves. The last politician who cared for the people is Stalin. From that they still remember.
          So pension reform was an example of a skillful, tenacious politician "within the law." Which will not miss its own and (possibly) increase the welfare of taxpayers.
          Here is a “zeroing” - a demonstration of loss of grip and going beyond the law
        3. Simargl
          Simargl 23 June 2020 05: 01 New
          0
          Quote: Shurik70
          Here is a “zeroing” - a demonstration of loss of grip and going beyond the law
          What did you cling to "zeroing"? Well, do not vote for him - vote for Sobchak.
          Decent, seemingly decent things are advertised, but in reality they either turn out to be harmful in general or will not work as they should. This is what matters.
          These amendments are not needed. The constitution in its current form is quite normal compared to what they want to do with it ... even without "zeroing"
        4. akshor
          akshor 23 June 2020 13: 31 New
          0
          Here, simply every next villain will be reset to zero. Change the constitution. It is not normal. Yes, and you can always wind up votes, there is no faith in the results. Old Man will also gain 70%. But will so many vote for him? And so, there was the only opportunity to tear the person from the chair. And then they killed and trampled. Just wait, when they kick forward? Death is not fooled. But is that normal?
        5. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 23 June 2020 19: 15 New
          0
          Well, you have fantasies. Zeroing is pushed just now. Next up are new referenda, etc. And, if you are not in the know, the people will vote for it. Do not automatically reset all. If the next prezik will be supported by the majority, then they will be reset to zero, but support for a couple of terms still needs to be earned. Now there is no particular choice, either, that is, or clones of EBNi (capitals, navalnashkins, brats, etc.), and when comparing with EBN and GDP, I’d better choose the “lesser of“ evils ”than ruin the whole system, and shouting a hypocritical phrase (in our interpretation): “WLV - life is important for liberals !!!” Some of them will soon reach the end of “Civil war, part 2”.
        6. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 23 June 2020 19: 22 New
          0


          Circus, and only ...
  2. Vadim237
    Vadim237 22 June 2020 00: 28 New
    -7
    I don’t give a damn about working and doing my favorite thing until I glue the flippers. The longer a person works, the longer he lives.
  3. ApJlekuHo
    ApJlekuHo 22 June 2020 03: 40 New
    0
    Read about pensions in the countries of Europe, for example, Sweden, you will be surprised. And the conditions under which it is possible to receive this pension are sometimes generally beyond the reasonable.
  • Tugarin
    Tugarin 21 June 2020 19: 59 New
    28
    Quote: Shurik70
    But this "nulling" disappointed me in it. Too open mockery of the law

    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 June 2020 00: 28 New
      -3
      No time for buildup, you need to build a water pump.
    2. ApJlekuHo
      ApJlekuHo 22 June 2020 03: 46 New
      -5
      Quote: Tugarin
      Quote: Shurik70
      But this "nulling" disappointed me in it. Too open mockery of the law


      Why the hell is this baby talk here?
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 June 2020 15: 53 New
      0
      Well, what commentators are such babbling.
  • Yury Siritsky
    Yury Siritsky 22 June 2020 12: 11 New
    0
    Zeroing does not oblige you to vote only for Putin. Vote for whoever you want if a worthy candidate appears.
    1. akshor
      akshor 23 June 2020 13: 36 New
      0
      Voting does not guarantee turnover in Russia and Belarus. This time. Secondly, imagine your most unloved candidate wins or such as Yeltsin. And every time it is reset. And every time they help to win. And that’s it. And endure until his death. Do you want that? So that the villains seized power and nullified?
  • Lexus
    Lexus 21 June 2020 17: 41 New
    10
    I look perebulsya

    Golovan, I just stayed with me. But your "clear" saga from the very beginning did not ask. So they decided a "good" option to revive and "fresh exhaust" to blow into the "Rusland". I don’t have any idea why healers can prick such things so that the “convict” boasting of his “manhood” abruptly switched to “rear-wheel drive” and dressed up as a woman. So-so "Kerensky" turned out. Threatening, at the same time, shame on someone. It is clear that you started out on the marriage amendment, but you still have to answer for multi-station and rudeness in PM.


    Even sending is disgusting. Leaving alone with a mirror - come off.
    1. A good one
      A good one 21 June 2020 18: 14 New
      -32
      Quote: lexus
      I look perebulsya

      Golovan, I just stayed with me. But your "clear" saga from the very beginning did not ask. So they decided a "good" option to revive and "fresh exhaust" to blow into the "Rusland". I don’t have any idea why healers can prick such things so that the “convict” boasting of his “manhood” abruptly switched to “rear-wheel drive” and dressed up as a woman. So-so "Kerensky" turned out. Threatening, at the same time, shame on someone. It is clear that you started out on the marriage amendment, but you still have to answer for multi-station and rudeness in PM.


      Even sending is disgusting. Leaving alone with a mirror - come off.

      What nonsense, thump something. I came from the dacha, went to VO, and here you are engaged in verbiage, call again, get down to business, calluses at your fingertips do not decorate the man, enough to force the keyboard. hi Do not grieve me, my joy. yes
  • Ilya-spb
    Ilya-spb 21 June 2020 16: 14 New
    -22
    Dude, for your information, this is a castrated ram. Did you want to insult me?

    Did I write somewhere that Putin is my idol? Nowhere.

    Congratulations to you, citizen, a lie!
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 21 June 2020 16: 53 New
    32
    Well, what is especially breakthrough made in the country? Well, yes, Crimea is there, Chechnya, pensions are good, of course, but we need to move on, but with this we have problems, in the sense that we were with naked women at the beginning of the zero so they came to the same women in 20 years. And of course, thanks for the pension my healthy peasant has to beg for money from his parents from retirement in order to survive in the province, because a lot of jobs as the guarantor promised didn’t appear, the prices for finishing work have been standing since the 14th year, and during that time everything went up 5 times in stores and by 7500 average hands sn in general unbeaten. Thank you Pu, goodbye. You did what you could, and I want to see another bronze king in every teapot.
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 21 June 2020 17: 07 New
      -28
      Whoever calculates your salary, ask him. For example, a hard worker earns 18000 rubles at a factory, and a director and a chief accountant each earn 1000000. And so everywhere: in education, medicine, and agriculture.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 21 June 2020 18: 01 New
        24
        Dear opponent, I accrue salary to myself, because I work in finishing, the price tag is based on the average for the city region plus extra work, and these prices remained at 14m. Regarding the factory, you didn’t try to go to the regional center for 5000 km with 200 with a guarantee that there will be no bed in the hostel, which means that you have at least 30 t in your hands and it’s dishirak and water plus travel to work (this already passed), while with an RFP of 18t, for example, they will remove that there will be no more than 13t of which 8-10 housing and 3 less for doshirak. And what for goat button accordion then. And in the hometown, the average 10-12t according to the documents but 7-8t on hand. Bottom line, you have to change a lot in this ugly state or come to African countries. And so Pu dude is not bad, but you need to know the measure or at least establish a system of punishment for the inevitable for waste and failure of public affairs rather than transferring those who steal into other seats.
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        2. 4ekist
          4ekist 21 June 2020 18: 52 New
          14
          Our treasury in the regions, already poor, is not paid because there is nothing to pay. In villages, the most solvent are grandmothers-pensioners. And how private business works for us, I know well, as in the days of wild capitalism. In addition, theft at all levels, tax evasion, salary in envelopes. And everyone wants good honey. service, social guarantees, earn (receive) good money. In the capital, nepotism is even worse than in the regions. It is necessary to change (take the best) tax, personnel, health, educational system. And, of course, do not forget about the punishment system.
          1. evgen1221
            evgen1221 21 June 2020 20: 12 New
            +7
            Yes, a lot (everything) in our ugly kingdom must be put on its feet with ears. (((
      2. victor50
        victor50 21 June 2020 22: 30 New
        -2
        Quote: 4ekist
        For example, a hard worker earns 18000 rubles at a factory, and a director and a chief accountant each earn 1000000. And so everywhere: in education, medicine, and agriculture.

        Are you from what state are you trying to tell us about our life ?! request And - where is the medicine? lol
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      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 21 June 2020 20: 10 New
        0
        Dude, I'm not really angry with myself as much as with our ugly state. If until 17g one bathroom was made in a week and there was enough money for a month, now it doesn’t exist (ATP forbidding to work), and there is no other (adequate) work in the province - not counting the very damn thing (you’ll get the hell out of it), the fireman lived up to it. And at the same time, our government blames us for this whole mess, well, you see, they don’t want to work for a spoon of buckwheat for a new yacht.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 21 June 2020 19: 24 New
    -25
    "Yeah, dude! For 20 years your idol has been steering the country and it’s necessary, we are again in a critical situation!" - And what is this “Critical” situation in which you are in detail?
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  • About 2
    About 2 22 June 2020 11: 40 New
    0
    Dear friend, we, in my opinion, did not crawl out of the crisis under the sun. laughing
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 June 2020 15: 54 New
      0
      You just come up with crises on your own on the go
  • Lexus
    Lexus 21 June 2020 16: 07 New
    12
    I decided to support

    Quoting hackneyed training manuals? If there are pants, a candle or a night vase, then without you there are “truly patriotic” people who want to.

    Our people remember the waste of Perestroika-Catastrophe, the "dashing nineties", and the permanent financial crisis.

    Developed countries must be compared to complete the picture. And so, people have already arrived and about the 90s, apparently from "a good and better life every time", they are nostalgic. ПЖ - the successor of the destructive "frenzy" of Eltsin, it is clear to all reasonable people ... Heroizing 0 is useless.
    1. Sahalinets
      Sahalinets 21 June 2020 16: 11 New
      41
      Yes, about the 90s is generally funny. Putin has been at the helm for 20 years, and his bots all fall on the 90s. Yes, a new thief has matured for a long time, and we are sitting on an oil needle, and we are sitting ...
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 21 June 2020 16: 23 New
        +7
        Who is sitting on the needle, I know, in general terms. But the fact that the country at the fifth point is settled in the majority can not reach. I read the comments and wonder.
        1. Serg72
          Serg72 21 June 2020 20: 45 New
          +3
          You are easier to state! You need to understand that yours (comment, voice is not "counted"), because you just do not understand ... Specifically, it is not right that "the country is on the brink of a precipice?", Or that "people do not understand something" ... (sometimes I got thousands of employees, so the main thing in communication was to find the Russian language to communicate)
          Immediately about the "needle" - Without the "Needle" they are nobody, because without them everything will be tuned and will work (outside their distributions), with the needle - all the possibilities of spending and theft ...
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 01 New
            -3
            And you suggest it to me easier to state? Read what you wrote then.
      2. Rusland
        Rusland 21 June 2020 16: 35 New
        -14
        I agree, even Lexus changed his shoes, changed his horse with Marshal Zhukov to a red banner, now he doesn’t have a ball, and he’ll get denticles in a foot column. Restless Lexus, when to the front? I understand that Russia is like the Brest Fortress for you, but I don’t see traces of injuries, even abrasions on you, it’s good to lick ketchup off yourself. yes
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 21 June 2020 19: 35 New
        -6
        I don’t know what kind of oil needle you are sitting on, but in Russia, from the entire economy, the oil and gas sect occupies 19% and the share in the budget is 30%.
        1. Serg72
          Serg72 21 June 2020 20: 56 New
          +2
          FAQ, FAQ ?? I’m not even going to get into my graphics sites ... You, baten.ka, from what? Yes, the numbers are laid down, but you must understand how our reporting is formed ... Anyone who is connected with IFRS ask, they will laugh in your forehead, for our heaps of all kinds of accounts, there are 50,60.1,62. and even a dozen - beyond the hillock - proto cash flow (well, differentiated) If there is a property in the family (wife, son, deceased under Lenin's grandmother) - give taxes, did not pay tax - IN PRISON! And we have? Where are the yields at a rate of return of 6-12 percent? The last and main question for you is HOW MANY THOUSAND years (yes, yes, there it is) the Rottenberg family would have earned their fortune, what do they have - ALREADY today?
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 21 June 2020 20: 59 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadim237
          I don’t know what kind of oil needle you are sitting on, but in Russia, from the entire economy, the oil and gas sect occupies 19% and the share in the budget is 30%.

          why bother then? To negotiate with Salman? Well her, oil, nafig! We have booming industry and the fall of the national currency due to oil - a mirage
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 22 June 2020 00: 34 New
            -1
            A strong ruble is primarily unprofitable for exporters of all goods not only oil - and vice versa is not profitable for importers since their products in the domestic market will be significantly more expensive than their own will be an incentive to continue to create their own products.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 16 New
              0
              Do not bring nonsense, 237th! A weak and variable ruble exchange rate benefits oligarchs exporters and currency speculators.
              And those whom we mistakenly call the state to fill the ruble budget.
              A strong ruble is needed by the people and a strong State.
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 22 June 2020 15: 58 New
              -1
              You are zero in the economy - that’s why you think that I am talking nonsense, but the fact that a weak ruble is beneficial to all producers in the country is certainly to me as an exporter, all the more so and I’m neither an oligarch nor a currency speculator.
            3. NordUral
              NordUral 22 June 2020 18: 07 New
              0
              Most export enterprises do not work. And he buys everything at prices, taking into account the understated ruble exchange rate.
              And this applies to those who are busy.
              And for the common people, whose 95% low ruble in our country is so profitable, people are dancing with joy.
              I worked in my free flight since the 89th, survived all the cataclysms and the hacks of the liberals. So address your notations to managers in offices.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 25 New
      -3
      I, the 237th, am sitting on what I honestly earned. Modestly, but do not need. And these percentages are exactly the same as 76% for Putin in March 2018. Only with reverse polarity.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 June 2020 15: 59 New
        0
        I am very happy for you - that you are sitting in the same place.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 22 June 2020 18: 00 New
          0
          You, apparently, did not understand me or you’re lying about Vanka, 237th. I personally am not at the fifth point.
  • surok1
    surok1 21 June 2020 20: 06 New
    0
    I guess the user. Wishlist are not moderate.
  • Voyager
    Voyager 21 June 2020 21: 50 New
    -5
    When did Russia live better than in the last 20 years?
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 17 New
      -1
      Who are you talking about, Andrey?
  • krillon
    krillon 21 June 2020 23: 09 New
    +4
    "Neither mind, nor truth, nor the strength of the present, not a single living idea. Yes, with what help they rule us? There remains one explanation, with the help of our own stupidity."
  • Deck
    Deck 21 June 2020 16: 16 New
    17
    I never voted for him, but now seeing how all the dirt is writhing from him, I’m thinking of voting.


    Seeing all the dirt pulling to vote for him, I never voted for and will not.
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 21 June 2020 16: 28 New
      -17
      Previously, they voted for Ksyusha Sobchak or for the director of the collective farm, or ignore such events?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 21 June 2020 16: 59 New
        39
        Quote: 4ekist
        for the director of the collective farm

        And what is wrong with the director of the collective farm? The accounts over the hill did not prove, but how much stench on the central TV was. Even Pamfilova was lying.
        1. 4ekist
          4ekist 21 June 2020 17: 11 New
          -22
          And you go to this very collective farm (near the city of Vidnoe) and talk with people.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 21 June 2020 17: 31 New
            24
            Quote: 4ekist
            And you go to this very collective farm (near the city of Vidnoe) and talk with people.

            When I go to Domodedovo Airport, I always visit the state farm of Lenin in no way negative about Grudinin from the locals.
          2. 4ekist
            4ekist 21 June 2020 18: 34 New
            -17
            But I don’t hear anything good, it’s clear that we are communicating with different electorates.
          3. NordUral
            NordUral 22 June 2020 18: 02 New
            +1
            Naturally, the pro-Putin will not tell you anything good about Grudinin.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 21 New
      +3
      Igor! And you don’t have to prove anything, everything is in plain sight and the village of Grudinsky, and the CJSC itself. And there is no point in discussing with the singers of these. Some are incurable, others earn.
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 22 June 2020 02: 04 New
    +4
    Quote: 4ekist
    Previously, they voted for Ksyusha Sobchak or for the director of the collective farm, or ignore such events?

    The most ridiculous and miserable thing about Putin's horror stories about Ksyusha Sobchak is that even if Ksyusha Sobchak had been chosen, her mandate would have already come to an end and then another president could be chosen instead (the second after GDP, figure out how scary it sounds for Putinists) . Instead, a decrepit and out-of-mind Pu will remain who, with his friends Sechin, Rogozin, Vekselberg, Yakunin, Chubais, Gref, Nabiulina and Narusova, will finish Russia.
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 21 June 2020 17: 36 New
    17
    Quote: Deck
    Seeing all the dirt pulling to vote for him, I never voted for and will not.

    Comrade, in 99 I said that he had to take such a “human being” so that he would become a receiver of ebna and a guarantor of his family.
    But in general, he was going to become the director of a taxi fleet in St. Petersburg and it would be better if he would have become his level, everything else is PR from what it was.
    1. surok1
      surok1 21 June 2020 20: 09 New
      -2
      Yes, God did not ask you, to whom what fate to give?
  • Ilya-spb
    Ilya-spb 21 June 2020 16: 17 New
    -6
    Let me ask you a provocative question. I have the right. You referred to me as "quoting a hackneyed training manual."

    Would you please cite her output?

    I, for your information, am a scientist and love when they point to the sources to which they refer.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 16: 24 New
      +7
      I, for your information, am a scientist and love when they point to the sources to which they refer.

      Alas ... not all forum users possess your mentality of a scientist hi
      Be lenient towards them.
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 21 June 2020 16: 32 New
      +3
      I, for your information, a scientist

      It can be seen. What kind of "scientists", such a science ... And vice versa.

      love when sources indicate

      The comments of your colleagues, supporters of the pancreas, take a look and find "amazing similarities." As one fairy tale says - not all sources are equally useful - using some of them, you can become a little goat.
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        2. A good one
          A good one 21 June 2020 16: 56 New
          -9
          Quote: lexus
          "p ... not at the cash desk"

          Do not judge by yourself. You, I have no doubt, are always on hand, because you have "where" where Russian science is, not otherwise, counters of "hours" and "mass flow" are.

          I am the author of several dozen international publications

          No "scientific works" and "beliefs" automatically make a person decent. But the "decent ..." is quite imagined. Which for the sake of 30 pieces of silver.

          Lech, direct your energy to the well-being of your family, help the brother who this nickname has given you, you are here in VO as Lyokha Navalny. He’s at least from the State Department, and you’re someone from whom you are begging. If by itself, then respect you. drinks
      2. snake
        snake 21 June 2020 16: 55 New
        +8
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        I am the author of several dozen international publications adopted by foreign and buildings.

        "And my last name, my last name is too well known that I called her"
      3. Malyuta
        Malyuta 21 June 2020 17: 28 New
        +5
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        It is clear that you "do not care" and if only "p ... not at the cash desk." I am the author of several dozen international publications adopted by foreign and buildings.

        About mutin? belay
        1. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 21 June 2020 20: 42 New
          +2
          No, in veterinary medicine.
      4. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 21 June 2020 20: 58 New
        +5
        Well, you are not the only one here. The Hirsch Index of publications is optional. What topics were published?
      5. Overlock
        Overlock 21 June 2020 21: 01 New
        11
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        I am the author of several dozen international publications adopted by foreign and buildings.

        you need to be more modest request I have 44 publications, including the cordon, and I do not scream
        1. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 22 June 2020 01: 00 New
          +1
          Hirsch is not measured. And a statement of modesty is inappropriate here.

          For details about publications - I ask in PM.
      6. Navigator
        Navigator 22 June 2020 00: 43 New
        +1
        You didn’t get there. Here are people who adequately look at the world. Pass by.
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  • flicker
    flicker 21 June 2020 17: 24 New
    -16
    For your information, a scientist also loves when they point to the sources to which they refer.

    It "Hundred " wrestlers with Putin's regime excited.
    laughing
    What are there links to sources. wassat
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 20: 08 New
    -6
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    I, for your information, am a scientist and love

    Scientist, by whom - by what? Scientist, trained, taught ...
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  • gurzuf
    gurzuf 21 June 2020 18: 15 New
    +9
    "Quoting a hackneyed training manual" is a good argument.
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 June 2020 16: 13 New
    20
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Russia needs a quiet development.

    Which Putin will never give her.
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 21 June 2020 16: 21 New
      -9
      And who will give?

      And what, do you personally do nothing for Russia? Does the development of the country not depend on your contribution, too?
      1. Sahalinets
        Sahalinets 21 June 2020 16: 44 New
        47
        Manuals of the Kremlin troll. Everything is according to plan, according to the fad:
        1. Our Crimea.
        2. Did not try to work or try to work.
        3. Raised from his knees, from the ruins. Which country went.
        4. What have you done for the country? What would you do instead of Putin? If not
        Putin, then who? There is no alternative.
        5. A lot of things have been done for the country.
        6. Begin with yourself.
        7. Not all at once.
        8. If not him, then who. There is no alternative.
        9. Take away the porch, plant flowers, sweep the trash ... don’t spit
        10. I work a lot, unlike you
        11. It is necessary to work.
        12. Do not provoke, provocateurs, talk out the situation.
        13. Go abroad, no one is holding.
        14. And the dissatisfied will always and everywhere.
        15. But in the 90s ...
        16. Give time ...
        17. He - did you personally stole something?
        1. mark2
          mark2 21 June 2020 17: 00 New
          -17
          METHOD OF CINDERING - non-living liberal

          1. If foreigners build a plant at home - "Well, they could have built in Russia."
          2. If foreigners are building a plant in Russia - "Now, if ours were built in Germany."
          3. If ours are building a plant in Germany - "Well, they don’t build it at home."
          4. If ours are building a plant at home - "All the same, this is a bourgeois plant, profits will go to the bourgeois."
          5 Foreign policy:
          6. Russia does not interfere in the affairs of Syria / Libya / Venezuela - “Russia has leaked”.
          7. Russia intervenes in the affairs of Syria / Libya / Venezuela - "This is aggression and imperialism."
          Reaction to international provocations:
          8. Russia responds softly - "Snot chew."
          9. Russia responds firmly - "The militarists are damn!".
          10. Russia ignores - “Snot chew, militarists are damn!”.
          Interaction with "civil society".
          11. The West is investing in grants - "Soft power, we could learn."
          12. Russia is investing in grants - "Cut, waste taxpayer money."
          Trade in resources.
          13. The West threatens to oust Russia from the gas market in Europe - "Putin is a wimp, nothing can be done."
          14. Russia is ousting from the European gas market the United States - "Country gas station."
          Chronicles of decline.
          15. Ford closes a plant in Russia - "The poor Russians have no money for cars."
          16. Ford closes plants in Europe / USA - diligently pretend that nothing is happening.
          17. Ford declares itself bankrupt (this is already possible in the near future) - “In the post-industrial economy, nobody needs this outdated primitive industry.”
          Finance.
          18. Russia sterilizes surplus dollar weight in securities to avoid the Dutch disease - “Russia pays the colonial tribute to the USA”.
          19. Russia is getting rid of treasure - “We have not yet figured out why, but it's still bad.”
          Domestic elections.
          20. The representative of "United Russia" wins - "The elections are falsified!"
          21. The representative of any other party wins - “Aha! The people became disillusioned with the authorities! ”
          Opposition.
          22. Do not plant bulk - “Why do not this traitor plant?!”.
          23. Bulk will be imprisoned - "The regime arranges political repression!".
          24. Navalny will flee abroad - “Where is the FSB looking ?!”.
          The fight against corruption.
          25. Corruptionists are not imprisoned - “ПЖиВ! They stole everything! ”
          26. Corruptionists are planted - “This is a redistribution of property, not shared.”
          27. Corruptionists are actively imprisoned, despite their political affiliation - “This is political repression, 1937!”
          Taxes.
          28. Create preferential conditions for business - “You need to introduce a progressive tax!”.
          29. Introduce new taxes for business - "Putin strangles entrepreneurs!".
          Well, a set of common phrases suitable for all occasions.
          30. It would be better if they handed out to pensioners.
          31. Putin has passed the point of no return.
          32. The Kremlin is in a panic.
          33. The mode received a black mark.
          34. Hey, damned guards!
          35. In Russia, fascism! SUGS!
          36. You are outside the Moscow Ring Road!
          37. The system is moving toward an inevitable collapse.
          38. Klassenkampf uber alles! Klasov’s fight!
          39. The Kuril Islands are given, Siberia was sold to the Chinese, they drank Baikal, they cut down the taiga.
          40. Putin has cornered himself.
          (A. Rogers)
          1. flicker
            flicker 21 June 2020 20: 28 New
            -8
            laughing laughing
            METHOD OF CINDERING - non-living liberal

            1. If foreigners build a plant at home - "Well, they could have built in Russia."
            2. If foreigners are building a plant in Russia - "Now, if ours were built in Germany."
            3. If ours are building a plant in Germany - "Well, they don’t build it at home."
            4. If ours are building a plant at home - "All the same, this is a bourgeois plant, profits will go to the bourgeois."
            5 Foreign policy:
            6. Russia does not interfere in the affairs of Syria / Libya / Venezuela - “Russia has leaked”.
            7. Russia intervenes in the affairs of Syria / Libya / Venezuela - "This is aggression and imperialism."
            Reaction to international provocations:
            8. Russia responds softly - "Snot chew."
            9. Russia responds firmly - "The militarists are damn!".
            10. Russia ignores - “Snot chew, militarists are damn!”.
            Interaction with "civil society".
            11. The West is investing in grants - "Soft power, we could learn."
            12. Russia is investing in grants - "Cut, waste taxpayer money."
            Trade in resources.
            13. The West threatens to oust Russia from the gas market in Europe - "Putin is a wimp, nothing can be done."
            14. Russia is ousting from the European gas market the United States - "Country gas station."
            Chronicles of decline.
            15. Ford closes a plant in Russia - "The poor Russians have no money for cars."
            16. Ford closes plants in Europe / USA - diligently pretend that nothing is happening.
            17. Ford declares itself bankrupt (this is already possible in the near future) - “In the post-industrial economy, nobody needs this outdated primitive industry.”
            Finance.
            18. Russia sterilizes surplus dollar weight in securities to avoid the Dutch disease - “Russia pays the colonial tribute to the USA”.
            19. Russia is getting rid of treasure - “We have not yet figured out why, but it's still bad.”
            Domestic elections.
            20. The representative of "United Russia" wins - "The elections are falsified!"
            21. The representative of any other party wins - “Aha! The people became disillusioned with the authorities! ”
            Opposition.
            22. Do not plant bulk - “Why do not this traitor plant?!”.
            23. Bulk will be imprisoned - "The regime arranges political repression!".
            24. Navalny will flee abroad - “Where is the FSB looking ?!”.
            The fight against corruption.
            25. Corruptionists are not imprisoned - “ПЖиВ! They stole everything! ”
            26. Corruptionists are planted - “This is a redistribution of property, not shared.”
            27. Corruptionists are actively imprisoned, despite their political affiliation - “This is political repression, 1937!”
            Taxes.
            28. Create preferential conditions for business - “You need to introduce a progressive tax!”.
            29. Introduce new taxes for business - "Putin strangles entrepreneurs!".
            Well, a set of common phrases suitable for all occasions.
            30. It would be better if they handed out to pensioners.
            31. Putin has passed the point of no return.
            32. The Kremlin is in a panic.
            33. The mode received a black mark.
            34. Hey, damned guards!
            35. In Russia, fascism! SUGS!
            36. You are outside the Moscow Ring Road!
            37. The system is moving toward an inevitable collapse.
            38. Klassenkampf uber alles! Klasov’s fight!
            39. The Kuril Islands are given, Siberia was sold to the Chinese, they drank Baikal, they cut down the taiga.
            40. Putin has cornered himself.
            (A. Rogers)

            In the top ten !!! good good
            1. tracer
              tracer 21 June 2020 20: 47 New
              -2
              Right on target! Well, hipozhёra at least evade the author ..
            2. Serg72
              Serg72 21 June 2020 21: 09 New
              +1
              And the meaning of minus someone? Do you think so, I - no, If there is a substantive substantive debate - go ahead ... If simple labels and so on - yes, live as you know, it’s violet to me ..... We all have, just, one of us spitting on them and you (their support does not matter for anything), they are already working OUTSIDE RUSSIA (my students fly to Asia with salaries of 25-28 and they SEE your Putin-bear .... They are also on the exchange of norms ... (but to leave ... I think so far, no) The world is much drier than "Putin" ... By the way, I’m up to fenka Putin or who, ANYWHERE, on any sites it was discussed that he had 78 euros for our pence. ... Yes there are many ...
      2. surok1
        surok1 21 June 2020 20: 16 New
        -8
        Industry, science, infrastructure are on the rise. The world respected, the United States is afraid.
        1. CT-55_11-9009
          CT-55_11-9009 22 June 2020 15: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: surok1
          Industry, science, infrastructure are on the rise. The world respected, the United States is afraid.

          I hope it was sarcasm? .. And then the industry - well, how to say, some sectors are still not falling, others are in decline, and others have rested in Bose. Something is being restored, for example, they started (finally !!!) to at least somehow develop microelectronics, but we will catch up with the flagships for a long time (to put it mildly) and not with market methods. Science is also to say, our RAS is a big viper where academics and other respected people eat each other like spiders in a bank. And at the level of candidates of science and graduate students there is practically no development - topics have been shelved for decades, there are very few fresh ones. Infrastructure - gyyy, travel through the hinterland not even of Siberia (there is a stable situation with the presence of directions), but in Central Russia, for example: Vladimir Region, Nizhny Novgorod Region, Chuvashia, Mari-El. This is from what he himself has seen. Take the M7 away and look at the infrastructure. Just do not catch a heart attack, please. “They respect the world, the USA is afraid” - a topic for a separate discussion depends on the view.
          1. surok1
            surok1 22 June 2020 17: 40 New
            0
            We are now not a punching bag, and my soul does not need more.
          2. CT-55_11-9009
            CT-55_11-9009 22 June 2020 17: 43 New
            0
            Quote: surok1
            We are now not a punching bag, and my soul does not need more.

            How long? At this rate, no. And it's not that sad, it’s a polar furry fox, well-fed, well-fed ...
          3. surok1
            surok1 22 June 2020 17: 56 New
            0
            Do not bzdi. Hmm, do not be afraid, my logic tells me while the body moves, or at least perlite, it is alive.
          4. CT-55_11-9009
            CT-55_11-9009 22 June 2020 18: 16 New
            0
            Quote: surok1
            Do not bzdi. Hmm, do not be afraid, my logic tells me while the body moves, or at least perlite, it is alive.

            Lying in a coma are also technically alive, only in fact - corpses.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 21 June 2020 22: 50 New
    -4
    Quote: Sahalinets
    Manuals of the Kremlin troll. Everyone has everything according to plan, according to the points - (... hereinafter 17 points):

    Will you go from the Nulland trolls yourself? Here she lamented at the copper that external pressure on GDP did not give a visible result, and therefore all hope for Victorka Nulland and the US State Department remained only on the internal "squeeze" who would put pressure on the GDP in their mattress interests. That's what I look at, the comments of these “fighters” (Lexus, Malyut, etc.) were not observed in the article about Nulland, so as not to highlight their involvement in the customer, but here today they’re “neutral” walking around in the subject, so that by pressure "with their" people's interests "to defend.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 29 New
    0
    I have already received half of this in response to my comments.
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 June 2020 17: 16 New
    52
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    And who will give?

    Perhaps the new president - if he is finally concerned about the country's economy.
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    And what, do you personally do nothing for Russia?

    I do, and quite a lot.
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Does the development of the country not depend on your contribution, too?

    My dear man, do not talk to you about my contribution to the development of the country. I am responsible for my contribution, because in my lifetime I kept a number of enterprises, including city-forming ones, from ruin and bankruptcy, where they went by leaps and bounds. I took it and I did it. I am responsible for my words.
    We’re just talking not about me, but about Putin, who is not completely responsible for his words, and who has not fulfilled a single significant promise to improve the economy in the Russian Federation. Over the 20 years of rule, yes. And who, having scrolled the country for 20 years, now does not even understand what he has done with the economy, medicine, education of the country, not to mention many other areas, such as forestry, etc. He really does not know what he is doing, and the longer he is at the helm, the more difficult it will be for his followers to scoop up what he has done. If at all possible.
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 21 June 2020 20: 00 New
      -16
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Perhaps the new president - if he is finally concerned about the country's economy.

      who is your "new president"? or are you, as usual, "for all good and against all bad"? lol
      1. flicker
        flicker 21 June 2020 20: 39 New
        -16
        who is your "new president"?
        They have a wide choice, they have up to 100 active fighters with Putin's regime here.
        They will choose a centurion, or even a tenman, from their ranks and to the presidency.

        Judging by the comments, each of them can easily solve any problem at once - how they start whining, so from their whining all the problems will die right away. laughing
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 21 June 2020 21: 58 New
          -2
          Quote: flicker
          They will choose a centurion, or even a tenman, from their ranks and to the presidency.
          And he will do good right and left: he will take the loot from the oligarchs, distribute to pensioners .... and live after this attempt for 20 minutes ... wassat
        2. flicker
          flicker 21 June 2020 22: 20 New
          -7
          will take the loot from the oligarchs, will distribute to pensioners .... and will live after this attempt for 20 minutes ...
          Here it will be so laughing except for one thing - they will not distribute anything to any pensioners. They just whine and they have nothing to live on, they want to get hold of the oligarch dough - here they are and that ... bully for trindet on the site is not tossing bags.
          ---
          You read them just some kind of kindergarten. Everything is so simple with them ... wassat
        3. Simargl
          Simargl 22 June 2020 04: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: flicker
          except for one thing - they will not give out anything to pensioners
          Nonsense! He will be kind, furry and caring!
          Throws balls on yelling.
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 22 June 2020 16: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: SanichSan
    who is your "new president"?

    He is not known to me.
    Quote: SanichSan
    or are you, as usual, "for all good and against all bad"?

    If you demand from the president the fulfillment of his obligations - this is “for all good versus all bad” - then yes.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 21 June 2020 20: 18 New
    -13
    Any president of the country can take care of the economy - but they just won’t be able to take money out of thin air and they won’t appear with your Wishlist as well as mine, so 48% - 89 trillion rubles, this is just infrastructure costs, and then more: the pension needs to be increased, salaries of state employees should be increased, expenses are spent there, some want to spend 10% of GDP per year on medicine, the second want to spend 15% of GDP on science, 17% on defense, and so on - that to cover all this, Russia’s GDP should be increased by 300% —but due to which the foreign market is clogged with demand for everything as minimal as in the domestic market, printing money is not an option, as well as all accumulations letting the NWF and gold reserves go to zero. The current quarantine crisis has shown that even 13 trillion in a piggy bank can be spent within three months in case of distribution of money from a turntable and in order to hold out in similar conditions for a whole year in case of a new pandemic, you will need an amount 4 times more 50-60 trillion, as oil prices go up, the government will be forced to accumulate this amount in the NWF over the next 10 years to the detriment of all other expenses. Most likely, the 8 trillion that remained in the NWF will be spent this year and the beginning of the next national project that the pandemic and crisis did not cancel.
    1. Serg72
      Serg72 21 June 2020 21: 23 New
      +9
      Why are you copying ... Why "hand out", who says "hand out" ?? Your own thinking is not enough? INCREASE PENSIONS, that’s what “money from a helicopter” is (we don’t have the concept of “households” like in the USA .... Well, read the keynes .... others .... I didn’t calculate your numbers .... But , a simple estimate of the increase in the same PPI when added by 1080 r yielded 1.8 percent (Europe would have choked it with envy) in a bright example - KSA, for all the jambs, decreased by 15 for the SWF from 738 to 400, it began to borrow, BUT - PEOPLE LIVE THERE ! Listen, bookkeeper (you will find the numbers yourself, not small) ... Yes, all this is uninteresting .... sour ...
      1. flicker
        flicker 21 June 2020 21: 45 New
        -2
        But, a simple estimate of the increase in the same PPI when added by 1080 r gave 1.8 percent (Europe would have choked it with envy) per sq.
        And what is PPI?
      2. Serg72
        Serg72 21 June 2020 22: 29 New
        +1
        As I understand it - they stuck in Google, and there - a blow in the form of "screen resolution" Yes ... USE ....
        PPI (Producer Price Index) aka CPI -In the USA this index is called PPI (Producer Price Index), it is calculated by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). It publishes monthly information, which includes the measurement of prices for nearly 10 individual products of production (and their groups). This data covers almost all industries manufacturing goods in the United States. Sectors covered include agriculture, construction, manufacturing and mining, etc.
        Then try to think for yourself, but ...
      3. flicker
        flicker 22 June 2020 13: 51 New
        +1
        Thank you, now it’s clear - the price index of products.
        I don’t use Google, I looked in Yandex, there was nothing similar there.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 22 June 2020 00: 43 New
    -4
    Only your money to increase your pension will be finite in one year, they will be raised in the next year, again lowered due to lack of budget revenues of the required amount. Money from the air will not be taken - Chop yourself this put. And I, unlike dreamers like you, live in the real world and have been doing business for 15 years, including investments.
  • Cossack 471
    Cossack 471 21 June 2020 22: 41 New
    +8
    We have colonels of 10 lards at home in their bags Shake the colonels and there is enough money for everything
    1. Serg72
      Serg72 21 June 2020 23: 14 New
      -2
      Yes, here’s a good example for you - you who are on this site are the “captain”, I’m nobody, because I’ve been banned four times here (Well, local “marshal generals” do not know the lexicon in the army) Okay, we’ve passed ... nevertheless, look at how many comments from generals and how many from ordinary .... This is a mentality, a desire to become a "general" not in life, but at least on a cloud (altostratus, not even cumulonimus, google, ignoramus) and This is NORMAL . But - in Europe you SHOULD become better for this (well, to suppress a competitor), and here we will MAKE you worse so that you do not defeat them .... And here money, you say - it’s just everything, you’re not worthy, but I I bent you and got ...
      This forum has nothing to do with, on the contrary, but. The PSYCHOLOGY of our brain is just that ... (just EWP
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 June 2020 00: 45 New
      -1
      We need 89 trillion rubles - we have never had so many colonels with cash and never will be like officials to trust them. Finish nonsense.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 36 New
    +2
    Once, Stalin did not throw folk money into a piggy bank, and even for a cordon.
    Remove the budget rule, force the State Bank (supposedly popular) to maintain the ruble.
    And it’s easier to return socialism and everything will be fine. Not by pike command, of course.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 June 2020 16: 16 New
      -1
      When the Bolsheviks came to power, royal debts in the amount of 10 billion, they decided not to give away the money of their citizens, Western countries immediately blacklisted our country and confiscated all the property of the former Tsarist Russia, including all assets located abroad of which at a cost there were much more than those 10 billion. For industrialization, Stalin again had to borrow hundreds of millions of dollars from the Kapstran countries, as his money was not enough to purchase equipment to attract the same Western specialists and everything else. In Russia, and so on, socialism is partly more than 7 trillion in the budget of 20 expenses for social benefits, pension benefits, etc. And there will never be full socialism since there is not enough money for it.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 22 June 2020 17: 55 New
      +2
      Vadim! Russia paid the West a hundredfold all debts en masse on the battlefields of the 1st World War.
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 22 June 2020 16: 24 New
    +6
    Quote: Vadim237
    Any president of the country can take care of the economy - but only money for this can’t be taken out of thin air and they won’t appear in your Wishlist like mine

    Then tell us why in Russia the money in circulation in relation to the manufactured goods is half that in Europe. We have about 40 kopecks per ruble of manufactured goods, they have 80 cents per euro of manufactured goods. That is, the European guys printed themselves twice as much as ours, but they are doing well. And we have half the money, but for some reason inflation is several times higher. What is it like?:))))
    Maybe it’s not a matter of money, but the fact that the economic bloc is no good for us, because we are not able to manage the economy at the macro level? Didn’t come up with such a thought? :)
  • Sanichsan
    Sanichsan 23 June 2020 12: 42 New
    0
    Quote: Vadim237
    Any president of the country can take care of the economy - yes, that's just money for it from the air will not work

    why? Americans take it! laughing
    Hialmar Schacht from the air took a ton of money to restore and militarize Germany. Today, money is a product that is made from air.
  • surok1
    surok1 21 June 2020 20: 28 New
    +2
    Knows and good. Politics is the art of the possible. If, let’s say, there is nothing to show militarily and fiscally, then the fate of Gaddafi can await the obstinate president, and the country will be the fate of Libya. We are talking about a real country, and not about a sandbox like some of our neighbors?
  • Simargl
    Simargl 21 June 2020 21: 55 New
    -2
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Perhaps the new president - if he is finally concerned about the country's economy.
    Have you definitely learned history lessons? After all, I poke my nose - it will be insulting.
    We had a "white" (almost) streak. What has grown out of it?

    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    And who, having scrolled the country for 20 years, now does not even understand what he has done with the economy, medicine, education of the country, not to mention many other areas, such as forestry, etc.
    Now correlate your "quiet development", meager knowledge of history and the cited piece of opus.
    1. Serg72
      Serg72 21 June 2020 22: 42 New
      0
      “... adroit!” - “Can I?” (c) (“Hussar squadron ...”) “Poke your nose, do you know where everything was“ white? ” in the ento dung mess for your very nobleness ...
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 22 June 2020 05: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: Serg72
        Please note, for economic bills
        Of course, everything is relative. Oil for 100, a minimum of sanctions, everyone relaxed.
        Brezhnev stagnation - what was there?
        PS
        Give your fertilizer.
  • flicker
    flicker 21 June 2020 17: 30 New
    -19
    And who will give?
    Oh, there are a lot of them fellow , about a hundred: Lexus, Stas, snail ... especially "grandfather" is especially strong - this is just a virtuoso. belay
    So there are many candidates. laughing
  • Overlock
    Overlock 21 June 2020 21: 04 New
    13
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    And what, do you personally do nothing for Russia?

    love is a mutual process, agree. As after these words

    can you answer your question?
  • Peter Tverdokhlebov
    Peter Tverdokhlebov 21 June 2020 16: 14 New
    -26
    1881 The conjunction of Saturn and Neptune in Taurus = The assassination of Alexander 2
    + 36 years
    1917 The conjunction of Saturn and Neptune in Leo + maximum solar activity = Revolution followed by civil war
    + 36 years
    1953 The union of Saturn and Neptune in Libra = Death or assassination of Stalin
    + 36 years
    1989 The conjunction of Saturn and Neptune in Capricorn + maximum solar activity = Revolution in the countries of the ATS, a parade of sovereignty and the subsequent collapse of the USSR
    + 36 years
    2025 The conjunction of Saturn and Neptune in Aries + maximum solar activity =?
    In 2024, the Western agent Putin became president again and in 2025 there was a powerful social explosion. I suppose Western agent Putin wants to arrange a civil war, followed by NATO intervention.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 June 2020 16: 21 New
      24
      2020 - bypass of the Chief Physician.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 21 June 2020 16: 25 New
        14
        And who will be the head doctor? ... it looks like a degree is rising in the room.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 June 2020 16: 25 New
          +7
          Depends on the Moon in Jupiter lol
    2. 4ekist
      4ekist 21 June 2020 16: 31 New
      +5
      And how does the moon affect the sexual life of cats, comrade. astronomer astrologer?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 21 June 2020 16: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: 4ekist
        comrade astronomer astrologer?

        He is a Jew. bully
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 June 2020 20: 53 New
          +6
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: 4ekist
          comrade astronomer astrologer?

          He is a Jew. bully

          This is your funniest joke on the site over the past 4 years lol
      2. avg
        avg 21 June 2020 17: 06 New
        +2
        This scientist astronomer-astrologer is more likely an astronomer-proctologist. And he broadcasts and information precisely from there he draws.
    3. Motorist
      Motorist 21 June 2020 16: 40 New
      +3
      The solar activity cycle is approximately 11 years. 36 not a multiple of 11, inconsistency ... And where does the planet? ..
      1. Peter Tverdokhlebov
        Peter Tverdokhlebov 21 June 2020 16: 54 New
        -7
        The conjunction of Saturn and Neptune is an astrological cycle, and the maximums of solar activity occur every 10 ... 14 years, the last maximum was in 2014, the next should be 2025.
        1. surok1
          surok1 21 June 2020 20: 34 New
          +3
          Usually, with maximum solar activity, spots on the sun rise higher from the ecliptic plane and emissions have less effect on the Earth’s magnetic field.
          1. Peter Tverdokhlebov
            Peter Tverdokhlebov 22 June 2020 04: 42 New
            -1
            Russian biophysicist Alexander Chizhevsky proved that during the maximums of solar activity, the sun sends charged particles to the earth that affect the mental reactivity of people.
      2. Motorist
        Motorist 21 June 2020 18: 30 New
        +9
        People, cons for arithmetic? Recently, one member of the forum spoke out: you’ll write, they say, twice two = four - they will be jammed. I thought - an allegory, but no ... what
        1. snake
          snake 21 June 2020 23: 53 New
          0
          Quote: Motorist
          Recently, one member of the forum spoke out: you’ll write, they say, twice two = four - they will be jammed. I thought - an allegory, but no ...

          In the case of "one forum member" twice two = four was not an allegory, but an attempt to present his opinion as the ultimate truth.
          And the desire for you to complain about two minuses, one of which, most likely, was put to you by a "very close" astrologer?
          1. Motorist
            Motorist 22 June 2020 19: 23 New
            +1
            Quote: serpent
            And the hunt for you to complain about two minuses

            Good evening! hi This is not a complaint, but bewilderment: “to like” or “not to like” can be an opinion, good or bad news, and finally just an interlocutor. But the fact that 36 is not a multiple of 11 - you just need to take it as a fact (you can check it with a column if you wish, and then come to terms with it ...).
            It’s a pity for the astrologer - they mercilessly mined ...
    4. ZAV69
      ZAV69 22 June 2020 01: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Peter Tverdokhlebov
      1989 The conjunction of Saturn and Neptune in Capricorn + maximum solar activity = Revolution in the countries of the ATS, a parade of sovereignty and the subsequent collapse of the USSR

      The collapse of the USSR in August 91, In 89, everything was fine.
      1. Peter Tverdokhlebov
        Peter Tverdokhlebov 22 June 2020 04: 47 New
        -1
        The collapse of the Soviet Union began in 1989. It is called a parade of sovereignty.
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        2. ZAV69
          ZAV69 22 June 2020 07: 32 New
          +2
          Again, it doesn’t fit together, the first declaration was 88 years old, in 89 there were only two declarations, the rest in 90. The referendum was at 91. I just served urgently, 89-91, nothing happened. Even from May to August, 91 nothing happened. So it’s a beautiful theory, but 2 years on a segment of 36 years is still rude.
          And the fact that at 25 there will be a social explosion ..... People must lose absolutely everything. Most people. Then yes, it will explode. And such an outcome is not visible.
          1. Peter Tverdokhlebov
            Peter Tverdokhlebov 22 June 2020 07: 46 New
            -1
            In 1989, the collapse of the communist regime began in the countries of the Warsaw Pact Organization, revolutions took place, the Berlin Wall collapsed. In the search engine, type "Years of the Snake Connection of Saturn and Neptune" several sites look there everything is written in detail.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 22 June 2020 08: 15 New
            +2
            Quote: ZAV69
            89-91, nothing happened.

            It happened, actually. Nationalists climbed out of all the cracks. Karabakh, Osh, Tribaltika ... But in Moscow, exactly in the 89th, the store shelves were empty.
            1. ZAV69
              ZAV69 23 June 2020 23: 48 New
              0
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              And in Moscow, right in the 89th, the store shelves were empty

              In 89, I was just in the FORBIDDEN. You will not believe it, there I first saw a condensed milk in free sale. 200 km from Moscow I did not see her, but I saw her there.
              It seems to me that for some reason the shelves were empty, in the spring of 91 when everything was demolished in the commercial stores .... I was still buying liquor on the dump for children (there was vodka on coupons)
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 00: 12 New
              +1
              Quote: ZAV69
              commercial liquor

              Muck first. Only Amaretto could still be diluted with vodka. The rest is um ... how would I say that we would not be banned ... A brown substance, in two words.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 22 June 2020 01: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: Peter Tverdokhlebov
    2025 The conjunction of Saturn and Neptune in Aries

    And will we be there? sad
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 21 June 2020 16: 55 New
    +8
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Many are very necessary.

    Which for example? belay Can you justify the need for at least a pair? Exactly at the moment?
    1. Hypatius
      Hypatius 21 June 2020 20: 10 New
      +5
      Which for example? belay Can you justify the need for at least a couple? Exactly at the moment?
      Justified, one for now.
      For example, public authority. There was the power of the people, and in contrast to the power of the public. Thus, logically, this is anti-people and occupation.
      Public power is established during the formation of states or the occupation of countries. When there are no citizens, or people are deprived of citizenship.
      Consolidation of the fact that Russian democracy (the demos class) bribes-forces the people to go on plebeysyt (to confirm entry into the plebos class).
      PS De facto, depriving us of citizenship (or occupation of the state, which is essentially the same thing), we decided to consolidate de jure, through public authority.
      1. Hypatius
        Hypatius 21 June 2020 20: 21 New
        +6
        I will supplement the definition: Public power is power isolated from society and does not coincide with the country's population, which is one of the features that distinguish the state from the social system. Usually opposed to public authority. The emergence of public authority is associated with the emergence of the first states.so as not to be confused with democracy, and especially democracy.
  • avg
    avg 21 June 2020 16: 58 New
    -4
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Therefore - I’ll go to vote. And I will say yes to the amendments.
    And that's why I support the amendments. I do not want a repeat of either 1917 or 1991.

    I totally agree.
    Corrections are needed. And no one is forcing us to vote for Putin. If Putin decides to continue his election, there will be separate elections, and here everyone is free to vote as he wants.
  • snake
    snake 21 June 2020 17: 15 New
    26
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Opponents of the vote for amendments criticize only one amendment - about the nullification of deadlines. About the others - they say almost nothing.

    Here is another interesting correction:
    The President of the Russian Federation has the right to appoint 7 senators for life. In part 2 of Article 95 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President will be given the right to appoint 30 senators of the Federation Council, of which no more than 7 may be appointed for life.

    Why do we need lifelong senators? Don’t drag them by the ears.
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Opponents of the amendments are not confident in the people.

    On the basis of what did you make such a conclusion, "scientist"?
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Therefore - I’ll go to vote. And I will say yes to the amendments.

    I’ll say yes to the amendments, and sometimes to drugs. I wonder what the amendments will tell you in response ...
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    By the way, under Putin there is no such inflation as in the 90s. Let me remind you this too.

    Well, of course ... Where without the 90s ... It is interesting: the next president after Putin (or already the king) will remember the 90s, or will the GDP be extreme ..?
    1. your1970
      your1970 21 June 2020 17: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: serpent
      Well, of course ... Where without the 90s ... It is interesting: the next president after Putin (or already the king) will remember the 90s, or will the GDP be extreme ..?
      -sul in the USSR-where each successive Secretary General spoke about the previous nasty things (Khrushchev about Stalin, Brezhnev about Khrushchev, Gorbachev about Stalin and Brezhnev) - following will say nasty things about Putin ...

      The only question is whether the country will live better from this ....
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 21 June 2020 17: 22 New
    13
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    And that's why I support the amendments. I do not want a repeat of either 1917 or 1991.
    Russia needs a quiet development.

    I am very sorry, but there wasn’t, there will not be any development under the mutin, but there will be a robbery of the country and the destruction of the population, there will be total genocide!
    1. surok1
      surok1 21 June 2020 20: 38 New
      +1
      Choked on sausage!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 21 June 2020 20: 44 New
      -1
      Russia has existed as a state since 1547, for all the time that has passed to our days and until 1547, there have been many crises of coups and invasions, including the total destruction of Russia, but it has survived, survived and continued to live on. And when someone tries to scare with such opuses, "But there wasn’t, there will be no development, and there will be robbery of the country and the destruction of the population, there will be total genocide!" You can safely treat these writers as crazy.
    3. ZAV69
      ZAV69 22 June 2020 01: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Malyuta
      I really apologize, but there wasn’t, there will not be any development with mutin

      I traveled around the district 20 years ago — there wasn’t a single normal road; if you go, the wheels will come off, the farmer is finished off with the remnants of collective farm equipment. Now you are driving along a repaired road, 2 new plants have been built nearby, several large agricultural firms overgrown fields. So there is clearly development. Nen, you need to fill in about prone polymers here
  • Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 21 June 2020 17: 24 New
    25
    I do not want a repeat of either 1917 or 1991.

    The irremovability of power is the main premise for revolutions. The reason is not even whether a good ruler or not, the fact is that for 20 years one person has been in power and has been simply unable to possess equally developed qualities for any situation.
    You have at least 10 pieces of wrenches in your car’s glove compartment and you don’t need to tell me about the miracle of the “adjustable wrench” - one for all occasions. Practice shows that with this adjustable wrench it is generally impossible to unscrew at least something.
    I’m sure that you don’t drive in the same car for 20 years and don’t wear the same underpants all these years. Right?
    Lukashenko has actually played out, the people just got tired of it, they will simply sweep him away if not for good, then for bad. I recommend watching the brewing ...
    1. surok1
      surok1 21 June 2020 20: 46 New
      -6
      They want to steer everything. More presidents good and different? The country as a drunkard will stagger at a rate, ministers to adapt each time? The booth. Smart people are more likely to organize a deep state.
      1. dauria
        dauria 21 June 2020 23: 16 New
        +3
        The booth. Smart people are more likely to organize a deep state.


        Already organized. Just before Putin’s first appearance on the stage in the 99th (then still as I.O.), they sat down at the table, frayed, realized that they were losing the country and the acquired “back-breaking labor”. They threw out the dissenting Berezovsky (Gusinsky, Khodorkovsky and others) and worked out a rule - we do not bite our own (even if you really want to), strangers to shreds. That’s the whole reason for the stability, prosperity and long sitting of the screen by the name of Putin VV, which they chose, cherished and publicized. Actually, it’s okay - this is how all decent bourgeois states live. And here is how the squabble at the round table at the top begins - then the Maidan, "black people too" and other-other "left-wing" are right below.
        1. surok1
          surok1 22 June 2020 07: 19 New
          +1
          This is bad only in terms of stagnation, when senility remains to lead. Or comes the "golden youth", degenerates. In fact, empires fall like that.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 21 June 2020 20: 48 New
      -3
      Lukashenko is not Putin, but the food shortage was and remains the main prerequisite for the revolution in Russia. It began in 1917 and ended in it in the late 80s and early 90s.
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 21 June 2020 23: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Bshkaus
      The irremovability of power is the main premise for revolutions.

      Hmm, a somewhat strange and controversial conclusion request Here, our borders have a certain territorial formation, Ukroin is called, so there the regular change of power occurs with "enviable" constancy, and even they still will not blossom.
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 23 June 2020 23: 15 New
        -2
        25 again? But what does Ukraine give you so much sleep?
        Hmm, a somewhat strange and controversial conclusion
        Why is it strange?
        was Yushchenko, namaydanil, but Ukraine did not raise. They removed the poor fellow after the first term.
        was Yanukovych, stealing hats, setting his everywhere, people got tired - a suitcase, a station, Rostov ...
        Poroshenko was, he decided to build a power by fire and sword, removed after the first term.
        Zelensky came - while the people “loves to troll Putin”, people like it, then it will be clear what to do with the “second series”.
        The bottom line is that the people immediately remove the person, if he does not pull the responsibilities assigned to him.
        Is it bad? And we have?
        There was Putin, a cat was born, and an official stole.
        There was Putin, a cat died, and we have Potemkin villages.
        Putin was back, and there were no cats left in the country who would not live under Putin, but in the country that was not a “breakthrough,” like a dam or dam.
        20 years in one place, and in many respects a step back, and we have everything Putin!
        Yes, I got it already, I'm tired, I need a breath of fresh air, a new man, not in the sense of a receiver from the same gang, but new looks.
        We were already delighted to the point that the patriarch called the day the war began "a solemn day."
        Putin is proposing what kind of bill, so they already say "thank you" in all seriousness. Another year or two will be like a frostbitten Turkmenbashi, crouching almost waist-deep, giving a hand, and it is better to do it on all fours - in a pose of submission.
        But what kind of zashkvar is already in the minds?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 24 June 2020 00: 03 New
          -1
          Changing a figure does not mean changing the system, but it is so built, at least vertically, at least horizontally, that it will ensure its survival even in the absence of Putin. In addition, it must also be understood that the next 5-10 years will be stupidly spent on the inter-clan struggle of the Kremlin elite, aimed at redistributing business, state assets, sales markets and for taking control of financial flows. Miller and Sechin will not force you to stuff pockets in your pockets. Nobody will rush to return privatized assets to the people and pull them out of the offshore under the jurisdiction of Russia, because the authorities will not be up to the people from a word in general, because she will be busy redistribution. I do not want to be banal, but it is precisely these processes that are observed in Ukraine every time a change of power occurs. I can’t wait to experience the meaning of the saying - "Pans are fighting, but forefathers are cracking at the lackeys"? Any power scenario aimed at changing the government will lead to a weakening of state control and a war in Russia. So it was with Chechnya after the execution of the Parliament in 1993, so it is today in Ukraine, after the seizure of power by force, but is it necessary? Only this time, sworn friends of Russia in any way will not give such an opportunity that Russia would survive, since they took into account the mistakes of their failure to implement the plan to zero Russia in the 90s. What do you, “non-revolutionaries” have for your zakshvar in your head? Stamp to the polls and take with you 20 acquaintances and vote “against” if you want a change of power without a mess, and then you will look for the fifth corner when other “under-revolutionaries” come to hang you.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 24 June 2020 00: 21 New
            +1
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            ensure its survival even in the absence of Putin. In addition, we must also understand that the next 5-10 years will be stupidly spent on the inter-clan struggle of the Kremlin elite,

            Not true, yours! A maximum of 3-6 months, 10-20 public TV executions, the rest themselves will bring everything.
            1. your1970
              your1970 24 June 2020 11: 14 New
              0
              Quote: Malyuta
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              ensure its survival even in the absence of Putin. In addition to this, it is also necessary to understand that subsequent 5-10 years stupidly will be spent on the clan struggle of the Kremlin beau monde,

              Not true, yours! Maximum 3-6 months, 10-20 public TV executions, the rest themselves will bring everything.
              - in China they shoot for corruption (including publicly at stadiums) - more than 20 (!!!!!!!) years. AND?
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 21 June 2020 17: 32 New
    30
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    And that's why I support the amendments. I do not want a repeat of either 1917 or 1991.
    Russia needs a quiet development.

    Can I ask a question? Putin, in general, is already an old man. For example, they kick out of the army in 65, due to incapacity. Guarantor 68 already. Upon reaching the next term it will be over 70 ... By the end at 80. Excuse me generously, but are you sure that a decrepit ruin will be able to rule the country? This is the first.
    And the second ... Putin is still mortal. When he is. Will you run for the rope and soap? For from your word, without it, the country will immediately die. For it will be either 1917, or 1991, or at all, the horsemen of the apocalypse will come. Or embalm, tape to the throne with tape, and let him rule from the astral?
    By the way. If the country has such a tough Putin addiction, like heroin, then you need to chop it as soon as possible. The sooner such dependencies are eliminated, the less harm they manage to inflict on the body. And the more chances to survive, and not die from breaking. Scientific fact.
    1. surok1
      surok1 21 June 2020 20: 48 New
      -2
      Young scout must be found. :-)
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 21: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: surok1
        Young scout must be found

        5 years as a club director in a friendly country? Scout? Also say "illegal." With such a face, they’ll only take me to the club. Fawn.
        A scout of what, this time "must be found", the bowels of the earth? So the current one only picks them, as in his pocket.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 June 2020 16: 19 New
        +1
        GRUSHNIKIs are quite well-groomed - most likely, one of them at 45 years old will become the new president.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 21 June 2020 23: 26 New
      -2
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      Excuse me generously, but are you sure that a decrepit ruin will be able to rule the country? This is the first.

      Trump is 74 years old. For the right to govern the states with him, Biden is butting whom is 77 years old.
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      And the second ... Putin is still mortal. When he is. Will you run for the rope and soap?
      It's strange how your logic works, just a little after the rope and soap run. And where did the prime minister go? Chi wines at once died too? winked
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 21 June 2020 17: 44 New
    10
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Russia needs a quiet development.

    It's right. Russia needs systematic development, and not quiet degradation and extinction.
  • Runoway
    Runoway 21 June 2020 18: 45 New
    19

    I’m going to vote, I won’t go, what difference does it make when a reissued amended constitution is already on sale ????
    And of course it will be put forward, Tereshkova taught the text not in vain
  • Whiteidol
    Whiteidol 21 June 2020 20: 19 New
    +1
    Sooner or later, the GDP will go away, but the amendments will remain. What's done is done.
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    1. standan
      standan 21 June 2020 21: 33 New
      0
      Article 71, paragraph T http://duma.gov.ru/news/48045/
  • Simargl
    Simargl 21 June 2020 21: 30 New
    0
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    1) the amendments to the Constitution themselves. Many are very necessary.
    I like the ban on dual citizenship for officials and the ban on cash accounts abroad.
    I support the priority of Russian law over international, even through a constitutional court.
    Almost everyone here supports it. And if the amendments were introduced by separate paragraphs, there would be fewer questions, although I, for example, have: international law is not a decision of some kind of court that can twist this right as it can, but some agreements with which we agreed not only to us, but also to the others (here we need to talk about equilibrium and a balanced policy of agreements), if you act in isolation from international law, you can reach out to anything.

    Quote: Ilya-spb
    - amendments are being made to nullify Putin’s presidential terms.
    If this was the only absurdity, I would vote in favor, but there are many other things that are not very right.

    Quote: Ilya-spb
    I have weighed everything. Opponents of the vote for amendments criticize only one amendment - about zeroing the deadlines. About the others - they say almost nothing.
    Your scales have broken: opponents of opponents only "advertise" this. The wrecking amendments are advertised with might and main on the CT and are presented as "heavenly mana."

    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Our people remember the waste of Perestroika-Catastrophe, and the "dashing nineties"
    No, he doesn’t remember!

    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Russia needs a quiet development.
    There is no calm development! You know the story very poorly! Accordingly, you do not understand her lessons well.
  • Rzzz
    Rzzz 21 June 2020 22: 05 New
    0
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Our people remember the waste of Perestroika-Catastrophe, and the "dashing nineties,"

    We just need to remember that perestroika was the result of twenty-year (oops!) STagnation, and it did not happen because the people wanted jeans and gum, but because there was nothing to eat. In general, the fact that there was nothing new for our country was not new, and in other circumstances it would be tolerated relatively calmly, but not this time. At that time, the government demonstrated to the people that it does not understand at all what is going on beyond the MKAD. It seems to be like everything was officially fine with us officially. That is, power has lost its credibility "to zero" (oops!)
    Plus, a military conflict with goals incomprehensible to the majority of the people and huge budget expenditures (oops!) And disgraced the USSR and a half of the world.
    Plus, an oil-oriented budget, and a game of reduction by our sworn partners (also oops).
    The collapse of the industry. Then it had just begun, expressed in the technical backwardness of many enterprises and the loss-making of production. Now it’s good, instead of unprofitable factories, modern shopping centers and residential housing. But there’s nothing to fill the treasury with anyway. Oil workers demand tax breaks and subsidies. Non-oil industry in a hard failure. But you can’t collect a lot of taxes from cafes and barbershops.
    Well, many more interesting analogies can be found. In general, I believe that Gorbi had few choices. Returning to socialism is fantastic. Kapi-socialism, as in China - there was no brain and authority. Maidan and the Civil War. A military or general coup d'etat (almost happened in 1991). Well, then, perestroika, which in a few years became completely uncontrollable. But I believe that all these events passed very softly with us, it could have been much worse.

    So voting "for" - you choose the option that you can call "perestroika-2".
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 22 June 2020 00: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    I do not want a repeat of either 1917 or 1991.

    And you will get both of them. You are not so your children. Denying the objective laws of the reality surrounding you, you will not get rid of their impact.
  • Giharka
    Giharka 22 June 2020 01: 24 New
    -3
    He said everything correctly. And we will go to vote with the whole family! And say "YES" !!!!
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 21 June 2020 17: 50 New
    +7
    I am ashamed. It’s just a shame that in a country where they try to denigrate other leaders so much, where they poke at some small, insignificant posts on all sorts of facebook and instagrams, such a farce may even exist!
    When insolently, through the knee, they do whatever they like!
    1. surok1
      surok1 21 June 2020 20: 52 New
      -1
      Before bedtime and lunch, do not read anything at all. And do not look for sun spots.
  • Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 21 June 2020 15: 57 New
    -26
    And it won’t be observed .. as long as he will rule .. he doesn’t need competitors .. he’s afraid of debate ..

    Turn on the TV and watch its video conferences with the leadership of the country. Why do you need debate. What would some kind of chicken allow itself to broadcast in the face with impunity a far-fetched lie or throw dirt. He does it right. Debate, this is in the USA. There is order and democracy. If Yeltsin was nauseous, then there is debate, that is not a debate ... Look at the finished business ...
    Mistakes ... Yes, the stump of errors will be clear. Where are they taught to lead such a country? Who will say. Who else in the world knows how to lead such a country? That's right, nobody. Everyone who will lead further will learn for himself. And next will be a team of either like-minded people, or mediocrity, or even worse traitors of all stripes. Well, the people will, as always, discuss, blame, praise. Just like now.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 21 June 2020 16: 05 New
      35
      Quote: Interlocutor
      Why do you need debate. What would some kind of chicken allow itself to broadcast in the face with impunity a far-fetched lie or throw dirt.
      Debate is one of the democratic principles. At the same time, they can show how the main person of the country owns information and knows how to hold the blow. For some reason, in the United States, presidents do not shy away from this, in Europe they do not shy, but why are we worse? Or is it not our president, but the tsar-priest-autocrat, in front of whom we must bow and stand on our knees ?! In the yard 2020, if anything, it's time to get rid of the servile mentality and squats in front of the "king".
      Quote: Interlocutor
      Look at things done
      I don’t see things done. I see a mess in the country, I see corruption, I see a commodity economy, I see inefficient spending of left and right public funds, I also see a drop in living standards and population. Where are you?
      Quote: Interlocutor
      Where is such a country taught to lead? Who will say. Who else in the world knows how to lead such a country?
      How is ruling Russia fundamentally different from ruling the United States, China, India, or any Asian or European country? Even carries you ...
      Quote: Interlocutor
      Everyone who will lead further will learn for himself.
      So let this "everyone" direct. In the meantime, I see one and the same Putin, who clings to power with all his might and contradicts his own loud statements of 10-15 years ago.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 21 June 2020 17: 43 New
        12
        Quote: Greenwood
        In the meantime, I see one and the same Putin, who clings to power with all his might and contradicts his own loud statements of 10-15 years ago.

        This citizen will become the blackest spot in the history of Russia, the day after all his deeds are opened. hi
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 21: 25 New
        +5
        Quote: Greenwood
        Debate is one of the democratic principles. At the same time, they can show how the main person of the country owns information and knows how to hold the blow.

        I put you +. But I don’t believe in debate either. Implant into the ears of the radio headphones (or sound transmission over the bones), plus a few acting lessons, business ...
        And this person is used to answering questions either with questions or about nothing. Longing green ...
      3. Voyager
        Voyager 21 June 2020 22: 00 New
        -1
        Quote: Greenwood
        For some reason, in the United States, presidents do not shy away from this, in Europe they do not shy, but why are we worse?

        We are better, therefore, no debate is needed. Gone are the days when they sat at the TV and exclaimed in joy "from fine fellow" while this or that politician shut up his mouth to another. And in the West, it’s just the people who are led; they will believe how much more beautiful a story you tell them.

        In addition, I recall that the current head of the country is not obliged to participate in this debate, and it is understandable why.
      4. surok1
        surok1 22 June 2020 06: 00 New
        0
        I’ll tear the American flag. :-) Paloskame.
  • oligofren32
    oligofren32 21 June 2020 16: 15 New
    +5
    Quote: Svarog
    I'm afraid of debate ..

    But the meaning of this debate? 20 years of his leadership speak for themselves better than any debate. And let the bloggers engage in unemployed debates, they are afraid of real work then
    1. snake
      snake 21 June 2020 17: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: oligofren32
      But the meaning of this debate? 20 years of his leadership speak for themselves better than any debate. And let the bloggers engage in unemployed debates, they are afraid of real work then

      And could you leave this kind of comment on VO more often? It seems to me that nobody will even argue with you. Everything will be piercingly clear anyway ... Who and what ...
  • tracer
    tracer 21 June 2020 16: 21 New
    -8
    He somehow did not ask you and your attitude. How do you not understand that your senile grumbling has nothing to do with reality. People will vote as they want, and you will not like it inadequate in time but it’s your problem. You are on the site, your only outlet is pouring your nonsense on people’s heads, and this is extremely important for you. Because no one else hears you anywhere else.
  • mark2
    mark2 21 June 2020 16: 46 New
    +8
    Funny.
    And what do you think Putin must do to make competitors appear?
    And why, in order for his competitors to appear, should Putin do something? Are they small children or what? And your words are babble.
    Competitors are destroyed by both legal and illegal methods, according to the traditions of the human world and the logic of any government. And the competitor's task is to carry out similar actions against the opponent. Only in the struggle does a worthy one appear.
    And why do we need such a candidate whom the previous government cherished and poured? The same "sissy" is obtained. And the old government will "milk" him like a cow.
    A competitor must appear in the competition. Otherwise, this is some kind of liberal swamp. The same parties that agreed among themselves, parties like the Tories and Whigs, like Republicans and Democrats, put forward similar candidates like two drops of water. The development of society does not change at all. Stagnation.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 22 June 2020 08: 20 New
      0
      Example. In the pride of lions, the main lion kills all the lion cubs who give the voice. Do you think that a worthy to become the main thing should survive and win if he is stronger .. Well, there is logic in the words .. But, in practice, what is the chance to survive even if you are super-capable, remaining in the pride and speaking against? all the coolness of an old lion that he kills lion cubs ..
      The options are:
      1. Whitie from the pride to grow. Abroad in the sense of? And who will vote for him after that?
      2. Pretending to be loyal until you grow up. That is, completely copy everything that the leader does, integrate into his system and “swear” to him. And will it be a good competitor? And is this a competitor in general?
      Apparently, until the leader grunts, everything will be so .. a natural change of power, so to speak ..
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 21 June 2020 18: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: Svarog

    And it will not be observed .. as long as he will rule .. he does not need competitors ...

    So it is with any power so. One who believes in the possibility of the opposite is simply an idealist.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 21 June 2020 19: 12 New
    -2
    Quote: Svarog
    competitors are not needed .. the debate is afraid ..

    name at least one REAL
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich 21 June 2020 19: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      name at least one REAL


      So this, yes, anyone, if only not for Putin. There is no real candidate to cultivate any sense, and it turns out that the candidate’s name is “XTO PLEASANT”.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 21 June 2020 21: 22 New
        -1
        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
        So this, yes anyone, if only not for Putin

        This is not an answer
        1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
          Aleksey Aleksandrovich 21 June 2020 21: 30 New
          -4
          You do not ask me, but to those who repeat the mantra about the change of power. In principle, I am also not opposed to the change of power, but the alternative should be reinforced concrete. And I do not want to change the GDP to anyone.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 21 June 2020 21: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
            And I do not want to change the GDP to anyone.

            Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
            So this, yes anyone, if only not for Putin.

            eeeee, I alone see a contradiction in the statements?
            1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
              Aleksey Aleksandrovich 21 June 2020 22: 12 New
              -1
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              eeeee, I alone see a contradiction in the statements?


              That was sarcasm hi
      2. surok1
        surok1 22 June 2020 06: 08 New
        0
        Do you think the skeleton of EBN will not be dragged, or worse? A financial Jesuit, like Hodor, with a stone in his bosom and unlimited credit from the west.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 21 June 2020 19: 21 New
    -5
    With the arrival of another person to the presidency - from the United Russia party and no other party will change much in the country whom Putin will appoint instead of him and will vote.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 21 June 2020 21: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: Vadim237
      whom Putin will appoint instead of him and vote.

      People like you have already voted for NeDimona. How is it?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 June 2020 00: 50 New
        -3
        And what, he voted - he served a term and went away again chose Putin. At least it didn't get any worse.
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 22 June 2020 08: 28 New
          +3
          The main logical contradiction of many is that one should look not at “so that it does not get worse”, but at “so that it becomes better” .. This is “if only there was no worse” and propagandists use it to the full extent ..
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 22 June 2020 16: 36 New
            0
            What would be better for us - this is needed so that the world economy gets better in terms of growth, but this has not yet been observed, why will there be growth in Russia when there is no demand - and you’ll at least put a situation with the government that will not change the situation in this direction you need to develop all of yours a lot of time and a lot of money, and not the fact that everything will turn out as planned as an example, the 2020 strategy that was set in 2008 - in 2008, its implementation was covered with a copper basin when the global financial crisis hit all sectors, only greeted 2014 economic crisis sanctions blocking trade in export imports cutting off access to foreign investment that continues to this day is yet another crisis associated with the global coronovirus epidemic, a drop in demand for all goods and services around the world will get out of it only after three years and the NWF will have to replenish and not up to 13 trillion and up to 50 - 60 as the current situation has shown that the accumulated money is enough only for three months.
  • Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 21 June 2020 19: 21 New
    -3
    Quote: Svarog
    And it won’t be observed .. as long as he will rule .. he doesn’t need competitors .. he’s afraid of debate ..


    Who is to blame for the fact that people who have positioned themselves as competitors to the incumbent president have so incompetently "merged" in circulation. Not only people, but entire political parties have lost their electorate and any serious influence on political processes. I’m not even talking about non-systemic opposition whose leaders remind clowns and not politicians. Look at the “opposition” parliamentary, or rather at their leaders the so-called "opposition".
    Permanent, hardened, clutching their sitting chairs with arms and legs, vigorously depicting activities for the benefit of the people, and in fact supporting the government on almost all key issues.
    Remember the Communist Party of the late 90s and early 2000s. A strong, influential party with great popular support. Look what Zyuganov made of it. Absolutely helpless bunch of people do not influence anything and do not pretend, having lost all their authority. About the LDPR and SR, I generally keep quiet.
    So Putin is not to blame for the fact that Putin has no competitors. And who is to blame guess yourself.
  • Voyager
    Voyager 21 June 2020 21: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    I'm afraid of debate ..

    Do you seriously think he is afraid of debate?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 22 June 2020 08: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Voyager
      Quote: Svarog
      I'm afraid of debate ..

      Do you seriously think he is afraid of debate?

      Yes, I think so seriously. He has a very weak spot, namely a bunch of unfulfilled promises that were made in public, the negative growth of demography, the economy, and the fact that he has been in power for 20 years and cannot blame anyone. To this we can add nepotism, corruption, etc. .. In general, if he agreed to the debate, he would have to dodge and spin, like in a frying pan ..
  • Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 22 June 2020 19: 44 New
    +2
    And with whom to debate, with Ksenia Anatolyevna? Fall to her level? Can still sit in a coffin with her?
  • Mooh
    Mooh 21 June 2020 15: 29 New
    19
    Also voted for, but tired. Let it be better on a smaller scale, you see, and such large-scale errors will not make.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 21 June 2020 15: 56 New
      12
      Better be a smaller scale

      A smaller scale just surrounds him. What nowhere else. Nature has long come up with an effective insecticide from such invasions.
    2. flicker
      flicker 21 June 2020 17: 38 New
      -5
      Also voted for, but tired.
      “Tired” - by the way, is a strong argument not to forget to write in my notebook. good
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 21 June 2020 19: 23 New
      0
      Quote: MooH
      Better be a smaller scale,

      God forbid, such a trick
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 21 June 2020 15: 32 New
    30
    Yes you? And have you heard much about Putin before his appointment as prime minister in August 99? Also tell us that if Putin chokes on a sandwich tomorrow, Russia will die ... laughing
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 44 New
      -11
      if Putin chokes on a sandwich tomorrow

      Tipun to your tongue ... you imagine who in his place will begin to tear what ... Wang Volodin ... and this comrade will show everyone Kuzkin’s mother ... later you will regret that Putin is not around.
      1. ltc35
        ltc35 21 June 2020 15: 55 New
        20
        Oh well what are you! Volodin became famous for licking and kissing his master's boots. They certainly will not be elected and nominated.
        1. Sahalinets
          Sahalinets 21 June 2020 16: 46 New
          12
          Putin holds Volodin in case toilet paper runs out. Here his clever tongue will do something great ... laughing
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 21 June 2020 18: 21 New
            0
            Just Volodin won the really competitive elections in his constituency in the late 90s and early zero years.
        2. surok1
          surok1 22 June 2020 06: 16 New
          -4
          This is just envy. Judge for yourself. Volodin believes Putin, Putin believes Volodin. And there is no pederastic overtones in this. Maybe he personally borrowed from you and did not give?
          1. ltc35
            ltc35 22 June 2020 11: 00 New
            +1
            I didn’t say a word about his inclinations and sexual preferences. I condemn his unveiled flattery. Russia needs a leader, not a flatterer!
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 21 June 2020 16: 19 New
        16
        And for several years now I have been sorry that Stalin is not.
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 21: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: NordUral
          And for several years now I have been sorry that Stalin is not.

          I regret it since the end of the 70s.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 22 June 2020 09: 55 New
            0
            In principle, it was in the 70s that rot in the country flourished as petrodollars appeared in the country.
      3. Old partisan
        Old partisan 21 June 2020 17: 12 New
        13
        At one time, what nonsense went
        If God forbid, Leonid Ilyich dies, then immediately a war with the Chinese and America. For the past, the fins fused and everything was calm.
    2. makasan34
      makasan34 21 June 2020 15: 59 New
      -2
      Quote: Sahalinets
      Also tell us that if Putin chokes on a sandwich tomorrow, Russia will die ...
      not from the sun, it’s so easy not to get rid of it; he lived like he was and will live laughing
  • Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 21 June 2020 15: 41 New
    +4
    Quote: The same Lech
    But I voted for him ... there were no more presidential contenders of this magnitude.


    Who is Leeson.
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 21: 33 New
      0
      Singing together

      Where, where do they sing?
  • NordUral
    NordUral 21 June 2020 16: 16 New
    -1
    But I voted for him ... there were no more presidential contenders of this magnitude.
    Is that so, Alex?
    1. your1970
      your1970 21 June 2020 18: 09 New
      -4
      Quote: NordUral
      But I voted for him ... there were no more presidential contenders of this magnitude.
      Is that so, Alex?

      WHO???? Zhirinovsky? Billionaire Grudinin (type from the Communist Party)? Ksyu? Mironov?
      Lucky Lee? Irina Gagite? Baburin? Lisitsyna? Pillar?

      WHO??
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 21 June 2020 18: 13 New
        12
        Grudinin is a billionaire only in the inflamed heads of lovers of this power.
        1. your1970
          your1970 21 June 2020 18: 33 New
          -3
          Quote: NordUral
          Grudinin billionaire only in sore heads lovers of this power.
          lol lol lol lol
          list of Assets CJSC "Collective Farm ......" accounted for 2018 - 5,6 billion rubles according to reporting.
          Grudinin, his wife and companies affiliated with them in 2018 belonged to 96% of shares
          Beauty Company (Unlike JSC) is that the owner of the shares can sell his shares to anyone at any time - even to Trump .... or to the Pope ... or to me what (if I had 5 lards at hand) .... the law encourages such operations ... There would be grandmas and a desire to buy ...

          In an open joint stock company, it is almost impossible to sell to the side and without the consent of shareholders.
          That is why all land landowners of the 90s carried out a hap of land in one direction - SPK - JSC - ZAO ....... and the peasants were left with a hole from a donut ....

          That is why in the village they practically didn’t vote for Grudinin, people can’t be fooled by living local curcule - a farmer nearby ...

          Or according to your ownership of shares on the property of CJSC Kolkhoz ... in the amount of about 5 billion - this not billionaire?

          Z.Y. And yes - after the divorce, his wife squeezed out 42% of his shares. So, he is almost starving now by Moscow standards - just a couple of lard ...

          ZYZ.ZY-If he, speaking as a candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, transferred the shares of the party, I would still have thought, you never know, suddenly honest and decent ...
          But no - the Communist Party separately - shares separately ......
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 21 June 2020 18: 46 New
            10
            Quote: your1970
            The assets of CJSC Kolkhoz ...... amounted to 2018 billion rubles in 5,6 according to financial statements.

            First read the charter of this society.
            Second, you consider the assets of the state farm, precisely at the value that Putin wants to squeeze out of the state farm.
            Third, did it ever occur to you that Grudinin could quite easily sell assets for the indicated 5,6 lard and live in peace in any country in the world?
            Hence the main question for you, why did he (Grudinin) not do this?
            Or do you see the “crown” of a friend of Vrotenberg overshadowing common sense?
            1. your1970
              your1970 21 June 2020 20: 40 New
              -8
              Quote: Malyuta
              First read the charter of this society.
              -read in due time and many such charters of such closed joint-stock companies. They are typical and in the charter of Joint-Stock Company "Collective Farm ..." there is nothing masterpiece
              Quote: Malyuta
              Second, you consider the assets of the state farm, precisely at the value that Putin wants to squeeze out of the state farm.
              if you sell them REAL cost Moscow land - there at least threefold assets will be more expensive
              Quote: Malyuta
              Third, did it ever occur to you that Grudinin could completely safely sell assets for the specified 5,6 lard and live in any country in the world? Hence the main question for you, why did he (Grudinin) not do this?
              -Because 5bn is just 83 млн dollars at the then exchange rate. And abroad, it will be necessary to pay taxes, buy real estate and so on the little things .... He decided to sit here and sat out - the wife shared ....

              Quote: Malyuta
              Or do you see the “crown” of a friend of Vrotenberg overshadowing common sense?
              -on the MY common sense - if you go to the presidency from the communists - somehow indecently be a billionaire ... Yes PRESENT Communists next to him would disdain on the field ....

              He would have gone to the candidates from the joint venture / Yabloko / LDPR - I would not have questions for him (especially in connection with his program - the exact opposite of the Communist Party program) .... liberal as a liberal, nothing new ...
              I would give my shares of the Communist Party-it would also be clear and logical ....
              1. DED_peer_DED
                DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 21: 36 New
                +3
                Quote: your1970
                in my common sense - if you go to the presidency from the Communists - it is somehow indecent to be a billionaire ...

                And, if you go to the presidency of the "family", then it is proper to be-a bastard?
                Yeah ...
                1. your1970
                  your1970 21 June 2020 21: 58 New
                  -2
                  Quote: DED_peer_DED
                  Quote: your1970
                  in my common sense - if you go to the presidency from the Communists - it is somehow indecent to be a billionaire ...

                  And, if you go to the presidency of the "family", then it is proper to be-a bastard?
                  Yeah ...

                  Grudinin came from the "family", or from COMMUNISTS?
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 21 June 2020 22: 44 New
                    0
                    Judging by 5 cons on my post
                    Quote: your1970
                    -My common sense is that if you go to the presidency from the Communists, then it’s indecent to be a billionaire ... Yes, the REAL Communists would have disdained him next to the field ....
                    - something happened with the word "communist" - apparently now you can be billionaire and communist simultaneously
                  2. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 22 June 2020 16: 37 New
                    -2
                    In the wretches of communism, insanity simply grows stronger.
        2. surok1
          surok1 22 June 2020 06: 24 New
          +1
          Do not judge rashly. You too could not have created a classic collective farm in modern conditions. And the laws are such that the wife can overcome half the common fund. And women are a swirling substance.
          But the late communist approach to business is more scary for me. I used to be in EP. Somehow we put the chairman of the cell of the former party. Our style meeting began to resemble the old USSR, the chairman began to behave like a robot.
        3. NordUral
          NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 04 New
          0
          Then so many words, Sergey! You just delve into the topic and about its "billions" even you will understand everything. Its billions are their village, its infrastructure and their company.
          1. your1970
            your1970 22 June 2020 12: 12 New
            0
            Quote: NordUral
            Its billions are their village, its infrastructure and their company.

            Lord, how far you are from the village !!!
            We have such mini-stern 12 pieces in the area. CJSC truth is no longer left; they have long been re-registering the entire land of CJSC as their property. Someone who is more successful, someone less, but they all look like a carbon copy .... During the period of the joint-stock company, they beat off a bunch of shares, then during the period of the joint stock company they bought or squeezed out the remaining land shares ...
            And then the company, 49 people under the law, no more .. 48 people have one share, one 98% of the shares

            And about the village, kindergarten and the like, everything is simply indecent. Everything that is not municipal or private property belonged to him (in the volume of his block of shares), all property and funds of the company. And to sell all this - he can easily and naturally, including a kindergarten. Similarly, he can sell the non-privatized balance sheet housing stock of a closed joint-stock company. There, the lawyers of the company are guaranteed to register, that the employee is obliged to vacate housing in certain cases ...
            So all property and funds of a closed joint-stock company are precisely his personal billions were (before the divorce).

            This is a general rule of law.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 22 June 2020 14: 13 New
              -1
              You sell noodles elsewhere, Sergey.
              1. your1970
                your1970 22 June 2020 17: 07 New
                0
                Quote: NordUral
                You sell noodles elsewhere, Sergey.
                Is there a weak point in the discussion of the facts?
                I’m just living in a small village and I’ve been observing such latifundists for 30 years soon ....

                Once again, all balance sheet without any restrictions, he can sell the property of the company at any time to any person. This is one of the main charms of the company, and it is prescribed by law ..
                You can write anything about me that you don’t agree with me - but he won’t stop being the owners of 42% of the shares of the company at the moment (the rest went to his wife after the divorce).
                https://www.list-org.com/company/9532 - это ЗАО
                https://www.list-org.com/man/6314 - а это он - как учредитель ряда фирм around Company

                If you want to choose an oligarch from the Communists - your right ....

                Z.Y. If, God forbid, someday he turns out to be the main candidate - I will vote for anyone, for Ksyushad, Baburin, or Zyuganov, and even for Platoshkin - at least it’s clear what to expect from them ......

                Z.Z.Z. I will repeat
                Quote: your1970
                Z. Z. Z.-If he were speaking candidate from the Communist Party - would transfer the shares of the party I would still think - you never know, suddenly honest and decent ......
                But no - the Communist Party separately - shares separately ......
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral 22 June 2020 17: 52 New
                  0
                  Once again - he can sell all the balance sheet property of a CJSC without any restrictions at any time to any person. This is one of the main charms of the company, and it is prescribed by law ..

                  But Grudinin, by no means, does not want you, Sergey to listen and sell everything. But the raiders, perhaps from Putin, or maybe not, no one held a candle above them, everyone tries to tear it apart.
                  Maybe, but the trouble is he doesn’t want to. And it destroys all your constructions.
                2. your1970
                  your1970 22 June 2020 18: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: NordUral
                  But Grudinin, by no means, does not want you, Sergey to listen and sell everything ....Maybe, but the trouble is he doesn’t want to. And it destroys all your constructions.
                  -what are the constructions? what is he a billionaire?
                  That is if not selling- then automatically NOT a billionaire?
                  Won Th .....
                  Then in Russia there are no billionaires at all - they OWN billions of property, but DO NOT SELL it....
                  Potanin - NOT billionaire - Norilsk Nickel does not sell
                  Alikperov - NOT billionaire - Lukoil does not sell
                  Usmanov - NOT Billionaire - Megaphone does not sell
                  Mordashov- NOT Billionaire Severstal does not sell

                  Grudinin - from the same row, small (ruble) - but a billionaire ....
                  And absolutely to the point - whether he wants or does not want to sell, he is already a billionaire upon the fact of owning (actually the sole in 2018) funds

                  Do you understand what you are writing ???? belay mat....
                  If suddenly я tomorrow I will become the sole owner of Gazprom - but I will not sell its assets - I, too I will not billionaire, in your opinion? !!!
                3. NordUral
                  NordUral 22 June 2020 20: 01 New
                  0
                  I understand perfectly, Sergey. If I didn’t understand, I would only live on a pension of 12 thousand.
                  But you either do not understand, or simply lie.
                4. your1970
                  your1970 22 June 2020 21: 16 New
                  0
                  Quote: NordUral
                  But you either do not understand, or simply lie.
                  -
                  1) what I do not understand?
                  2) where am I lying? Please indicate if it does not bother you ....
                5. NordUral
                  NordUral 23 June 2020 11: 51 New
                  -2
                  You are lying about the billions of Grudinin. I won’t go into details, this is an empty matter. And if you don’t lie, then you don’t understand.
                  What else can I tell you.
                  Here you draw your conclusions about the strong or weak ruble on the experience of the exporter. But besides, and mainly, the country lives on domestic product and import. And this is a different and sad story. But you don’t understand this?
                6. your1970
                  your1970 23 June 2020 17: 16 New
                  0
                  Quote: NordUral
                  just lying.

                  Quote: NordUral
                  You sell noodles elsewhere, Sergey.

                  Quote: NordUral
                  You are lying about the billions of Grudinin.
                  - that is, those cited by me DOCUMENTALLY confirmed facts- which Grudinin himself does not deny- this is your opinion lie???? I gave you links to information about the assets of a closed joint-stock company, can you refute them?
                  You can justify something your words? or
                  Quote: NordUral
                  this is empty.
                  answer for your words ????

                  Quote: NordUral
                  What else can I tell you.
                  - you can’t say anything, absolutely ... you didn’t bring a fact to refute my words, just slogans ...

                  Z.Y. And that apparently completely covered you with something strong.
                  Quote: NordUral
                  Here are your conclusions about a strong or weak ruble do on your own experience an exporter. But besides, and mainly, the country lives on domestic product and import. And this is a different and sad story. But you don’t understand this?

                  You have at least a word about me weak or strong ruble at least once ???? why did you get that I am an exporter of something ??? fool fool
                7. NordUral
                  NordUral 23 June 2020 18: 11 New
                  -1
                  Let's start with the documented confirmed facts. Please link to these documents.
                  And bye with that
                  Have you even got a word about a weak or strong ruble at least once ???? why did you get the idea that I am an exporter of something ???
                  confused you with another Sergey. Sinful. You just write with him in unison.
                8. your1970
                  your1970 23 June 2020 18: 26 New
                  -1
                  Quote: NordUral
                  Let's start with documented facts. Please link to these documents.

                  That is, you do not read the opponent at all ????? strong discussion belay I'm trying to discuss something ....
                  I gave links a long time ago (yesterday at 17:07)
                  Quote: your1970
                  https://www.list-org.com/company/9532 - это ЗАО
                  https://www.list-org.com/man/6314 - а это он - как учредитель ряда фирм around Company
                9. NordUral
                  NordUral 23 June 2020 18: 34 New
                  -1
                  Why, I read when there is something.

                  But it didn’t work out.
                10. your1970
                  your1970 23 June 2020 20: 10 New
                  +1
                  Quote: NordUral
                  But it didn’t work out.
                  - request I open both links ...
                  try on the TIN there to go through the search
                  INN / KPP: 5003009032/500301001

                  or by manager through a search on the right
                11. NordUral
                  NordUral 23 June 2020 20: 18 New
                  -1
                  Sergey, I’ll definitely look. But according to what I found from Grudinin, I’m unlikely to change my opinion, or rather, that I will not change. So let's stay our way, and time will tell who is closest to us as a homespun truth.
                12. your1970
                  your1970 23 June 2020 21: 57 New
                  -1
                  Naturally !! I will not change my own either:
                  Quote: your1970
                  Z.Y. If, God forbid, someday he turns out to be the main candidate - I will vote for anyone, for Ksyushad, Baburin, or Zyuganov, and even for Platoshkin - at least it’s clear what to expect from them ......
                  is the most censored option

                  By the way, time has already shown, the village did not vote for him at all, the city voted for him- "He lives next to the workers !!!" ... here is happiness, God forgive me .....
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 21 June 2020 19: 43 New
    +7
    Quote: your1970
    WHO??

    Yes, at least my neighbor is across the road. With real military merit, though not an officer, he was a soldier. Afghan, sapper, banner and combat. And not a quiet man, besides either escaping from the office, into which he was eager to, so eager while she was in fashion, or trampled. He’s still a fist, but he hasn’t rested a nail in life. Unlike the guarantor, he did not send his wife and children into free swimming. It plows really, not like a talker in a galley, but like a bee, from dawn to dusk. He lives by the principle - the man said, the man did. And not like our beloved, but he said it was a long time ago, and it’s not true, and in general it was not me, please treat with understanding.
    That's real. Put them next to the usual hard workers, against the background of the guarantor, there will be some pluses. What is not an option? And do not say that you can’t. Mr. Putin also does not have a higher education in profile - the president of the Russian Federation. He generally has no education other than law. What from the government of the country is about the same distance as the penguins from nuclear physics.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 21 June 2020 21: 06 New
      +9
      Well, kinsurprise leads the nuclear industry, even received a medal (probably because it didn’t interfere very much)
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 22 June 2020 09: 28 New
        0
        Kindersurprise turned out to be a visionary and strong business executive. Whether he will be a good politician is unlikely. But there is always room for a miracle laughing
        1. Romey
          Romey 22 June 2020 10: 03 New
          +3
          What kind of business executive is there? Have you ever heard of the Baltic NPP? They killed hell knows how many lards, they brought infrastructure into a pure field, they built an ABA and even brought the reactor vessel. As a result, all this was not needed by anyone. Is this a thrift?
          1. vadimtt
            vadimtt 22 June 2020 10: 13 New
            0
            This is politics. Not only that, as a result, they built a nuclear power plant in Belarus, although Europe there also screams about "not buying dirty energy."
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 08 New
          +5
          Are you blessed, Vadim? Kindersurprise received the Union’s nuclear industry without creating anything. For fraud with a default of 98 in compensation.
          1. vadimtt
            vadimtt 22 June 2020 10: 38 New
            -1
            What did he get? Figuratively speaking, he received then what Roskosmos is now. No more no less. And to default the same no side. Although what I'm talking about, it's useless.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 46 New
              +2
              Although what I'm talking about, it's useless
              That's right!
              He received the frozen nuclear industry and the achievements of the Union. Received funding and it worked, as before. And Roskosmos plunders and kills a gang of thieves.
        3. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 22 June 2020 16: 38 New
          +5
          He was not any manager. His level is the level of Chubais, Boginsky and Dutov with Serdyukov.
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  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 21 June 2020 17: 53 New
    16
    Quote: The same Lech
    But I voted for him ... there were no more presidential contenders of this magnitude.

    What the fuck? Why do you dare to humiliate Russia in such a way, saying that the head club in Dresden and the portfolio-bearer dog-dog are a “large-scale” figure?
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 21 June 2020 18: 19 New
    -7
    I voted for him in 2012 and 2018. In 2000 and 2004, he voted for representatives of the Communist Party. If Putin is nominated again, I will vote again for him. Although in the parliamentary elections I will vote, most likely, for the Communist Party.
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 21: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergej1972
      I voted for him in 2012 and 2018. In 2000 and 2004, he voted for representatives of the Communist Party. If Putin is nominated again, I will vote again for him. Although in the parliamentary elections I will vote, most likely, for the Communist Party.


    2. NordUral
      NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 47 New
      +1
      You have a split personality, Sergey.
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 21 June 2020 21: 25 New
    +3
    Quote: The same Lech
    And so far no one has been seen on the horizon who could reach for the presidency with him.
    Vitaly Nalivkin from Usurijsk! good
  • FIR FIR
    FIR FIR 21 June 2020 21: 52 New
    +6
    But I voted for him ... there were no more presidential contenders of this magnitude.
    And so far no one has been seen on the horizon who could reach for the presidency with him.

    You need an order for this. Vote for the one who will become president anyway.
    And it doesn’t matter if you voted or not. There are no other options. Someone here recently beat in the chest with his fist that Putin was tired and would not go on .... God, capitalism has won. Money rose above conscience, desires, goals and life. Rockefellers, Rothschild will win in this country.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 22 June 2020 10: 48 New
      0
      Not they will win, but we will lose if we think and do so.
  • Wowka
    Wowka 22 June 2020 15: 21 New
    +2
    And until it is observed on the horizon

    not really in such a huge country with such a huge population
    there is not even one more “left-hander”?
    Is some wildness simple or is it really degradation? how is that so? 146 745 098 as of January 1, 2020, and for these 147 million is the only one who can? He is the only smart, historian, decisive, caring, undeniable, competent ... "We!" ... Pluralis majestatis and so on and so forth and so on ...?!
  • Svarog
    Svarog 21 June 2020 15: 23 New
    28
    Quote: Incvizitor
    I never voted for him, but now seeing how all the dirt is writhing from him, I’m thinking of voting.

    Standard training manual .. Are you all in white? Do you see the dirt in him? He smacks of it. It smacks of the near-by official, of whom there have already been many noted ..
    Today, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that he does not exclude the possibility of running for the next presidential term if the amendments to the Basic Law are finally adopted.

    So for this purpose he is changing the Constitution. Hypocrite..
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 25 New
      -8
      So for this purpose he is changing the Constitution. Hypocrite..

      As the people decide it will be so ... his own words. smile
      But how will the people decide? what
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 21 June 2020 15: 26 New
        20
        Quote: The same Lech
        So for this purpose he is changing the Constitution. Hypocrite..

        As the people decide it will be so ... his own words. smile
        But how will the people decide? what

        Yes, people do not decide .. the people what kind of pension reform was? No, of course .. but they accepted it .. and here too, the new Constitution is already for sale .. and the dances with the tambourine reset to zero are satisfied.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 32 New
          +4
          Yes, people do not decide .. the people what kind of pension reform was?


          Well, the people ultimately decide anyway one way or another ... who would have thought that the people would not support the CPSU Central Committee in the days of the GKChP ... what communist power collapsed like a house of cards ... it can also happen to Putin if he ceases to rely on the broad strata of the people and loses the trust of the people ... no vertical power will stand if there is no firm support in its foundation in the face of support for ordinary citizens.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 21 June 2020 15: 34 New
            +7
            Quote: The same Lech
            no vertical power will stand if there is no rigid support in its foundation in the face of support for ordinary citizens.

            In the future, I agree .. without popular support in any way, but in the short term he apparently decided not to bother ..
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 34 New
              +1
              Wait and see. hi
          2. parusnik
            parusnik 21 June 2020 15: 51 New
            17
            Did the people decide on a plebiscite to increase the presidential term?
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 21 June 2020 16: 02 New
              +4
              Did the people decide on a plebiscite to increase the presidential term?
              No, of course ... the State Duma deputies decided for him ... took the initiative in resolving this issue ... Comrade Putin completely agrees with this ... what's wrong ... we live in a fun time ... a time of change. hi
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 21 June 2020 18: 30 New
                12
                Quote: The same Lech
                deputies of the State Duma decided for it ... took the initiative

                Lyokha, are you sure that the deputies took the initiative? My sclerosis does not agree.
              2. parusnik
                parusnik 21 June 2020 19: 39 New
                +8
                Oh how! That is, in conflict with the Constitution and Federal Law laughing
            2. hydrox
              hydrox 21 June 2020 16: 05 New
              0
              And who said that d. extension of time?
              After all, it is possible to hold a nationwide referendum on renewal or non-renewal of powers once in 2 years (i.e. a plebiscite).
              He did not satisfy the population with his work — he went away, satisfied — he remained for another 2 years.
          3. AUL
            AUL 21 June 2020 16: 01 New
            16
            Quote: The same Lech
            .can also happen to Putin if he ceases to rely on broad sections of the people and loses the trust of the people ...

            And when did he rely on the "broad strata"? He has a slightly different support - Rotenbergs,, Chubais, Sechins and Timchenko!
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 21 June 2020 16: 27 New
              +7
              Potanin was forgotten with Norilsk Nickel.
          4. parusnik
            parusnik 21 June 2020 16: 14 New
            21
            Same lech
            it can also happen to Putin if he ceases to rely on broad sections of the people
            .... I received especially popular support when I announced the Pension Reform ... I relied on the shoulders of the people .... smile
          5. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 21 June 2020 21: 10 New
            +4
            He lived then in Lyubertsy. The GKChP was completely overwhelmed, and the hard workers in the Lyubertsy buses then said with sadness - well, why did these GKChPshniks not even turn to the hard workers? We wanted it ourselves, but what happened?
          6. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 22 June 2020 08: 42 New
            0
            Alexei, you’re just an idealist .. Nothing will happen .. Now the "vertical" stands and doesn’t move .. among my friends, if he has 20 percent of those who support, then it’s good .. this is clearly not "wide layers of people with confidence" .. The vertical is stable without the support of the people, because it does not actually depend on the elections, but how else will the people influence it?
        2. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 21 June 2020 15: 43 New
          -21
          Quote: Svarog
          Yes, people do not solve anything ..

          Because people like you, “fighters with power,” believe that they are the people! The people are those who today, not on sites and blogs, show their position, but those who "plow and forge" its future. And the people in the elections will say their word. And the "fighters with power" will only howl at the moon. Not long left!
          1. Harry cuper
            Harry cuper 21 June 2020 16: 32 New
            16
            So you, too, are not people. You don’t forge or plow, but on the website howl to your employer
        3. flicker
          flicker 21 June 2020 17: 46 New
          -10
          people what kind of pension reform was? No, of course .. but they accepted her ..

          1941, what kind of war was the people? No, of course ... but it has begun.
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      2. Aleksandre
        Aleksandre 21 June 2020 15: 39 New
        +9
        Quote: The same Lech
        But how will the people decide? what

        Once a psychology teacher told me: "Sasha, most people perceive the process of" thinking "as a headache, and if you think for them and give some intelligible and understandable thoughts to them, then your decision will be their solution." And I have not yet had occasion to verify its wrongness.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 45 New
          -8
          and if you think for them and give some intelligible and understandable thoughts to them, then your decision will be their decision

          Yeah ... probably Pop Gapon also thought leading a thousandth crowd of people under execution.
          1. Aleksandre
            Aleksandre 21 June 2020 16: 03 New
            10
            Quote: The same Lech
            and if you think for them and give some intelligible and understandable thoughts to them, then your decision will be their decision

            Yeah ... probably Pop Gapon also thought leading a thousandth crowd of people under execution.

            And as a result: the priest led, and the people followed. Does this somehow contradict the statement?
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 21 June 2020 16: 28 New
              -4
              There is no approval ... only Putin is not Gapon.
              1. Aleksandre
                Aleksandre 21 June 2020 16: 45 New
                +3
                Quote: The same Lech
                There is no approval ... only Putin is not Gapon.

                Well, if this woman was interested in moral questions (where to lead), if they were interested, she did not voice them at all, preferring training in a practical (how to lead) plane.
        2. ul_vitalii
          ul_vitalii 21 June 2020 15: 47 New
          -1
          Quote: Aleksandre
          Quote: The same Lech
          But how will the people decide? what

          Once a psychology teacher told me: "Sasha, most people perceive the process of" thinking "as a headache, and if you think for them and give some intelligible and understandable thoughts to them, then your decision will be their solution." And I have not yet had occasion to verify its wrongness.

          Well, you are not the first as a listener and as that teacher on the Internet, but what did he teach or teach you. wink
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 51 New
            +1
            and what he taught or taught you.

            Oooh ... he taught a lot of things ... his KGB school is not an exam for you ... all the same, to hold out in power for twenty years with the most severe pressure from all sides ... you must agree to mediocrity.
            Remember at least what kind of country he adopted, he was from the binge of Yeltsin ...
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 21 June 2020 16: 44 New
              10
              Quote: The same Lech
              all the same, to hold on to power for twenty years with the most severe pressure from all sides ... you must agree to mediocrity is not possible.

              Any ordinary African dictator can do it. By the way, he also fools his African electorate about the brutal pressure from America and the need to rally in the face of an external threat, this is not our unique propaganda invention.
            2. Sahalinets
              Sahalinets 21 June 2020 17: 06 New
              13
              all the same, to hold on to power for twenty years with the most severe pressure from all sides ... you must agree to mediocrity is not possible.

              Well then Mugabe is your idol! 37 years lasted. Great! And how everything blossomed in Zimbabwe ... laughing
          2. Aleksandre
            Aleksandre 21 June 2020 16: 04 New
            +3
            Quote: ul_vitalii
            Well, you are not the first as a listener and as that teacher on the Internet, but what did he teach or teach you. wink

            Umm ... Sorry for the question: is Russian not your native language? I must confess that I didn’t understand anything at all.
        3. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 21 June 2020 16: 28 New
          -7
          Quote: Aleksandre
          Once a psychology teacher told me

          And my father, for this reason, always reminds me of a famous joke:
          Moysha and Sarah go to bed - Moysha cannot toss and turn to sleep ...
          Sarah asks - "What's the matter?"
          - Yes, I borrowed a ruble from Abram, now I'm suffering - I must give, not
          I want it, my head hurts
          Sara knocks on the wall and says:
          - Abram. did you take a ruble?
          - Yes.
          - So, he will not return it to you. - turns to Moishe and says:
          - Now let his head hurt
        4. surok1
          surok1 22 June 2020 06: 38 New
          0
          The blessing is one who makes you think, and not powder your brain.
      3. parusnik
        parusnik 21 June 2020 15: 54 New
        12
        Yes, it doesn’t decide, according to the Constitution and the Federal Law, the people don’t accept the amendments. According to these documents, the Federal Assembly and meetings at the level of subjects on behalf of the people decide.
      4. ltc35
        ltc35 21 June 2020 15: 59 New
        +3
        Taki Ella already told everything how the people decide. I have nothing against the sun, but it’s time to turn on the human conscience.
      5. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 21 June 2020 17: 05 New
        16
        Quote: The same Lech
        But how will the people decide?

        Everything is already decided. Pamfilova voiced a month ago.
      6. Revival
        Revival 21 June 2020 18: 17 New
        +3
        Yeah, a coincidence happened by chance, so there is no turnout threshold, apparently just forgot about it, and generally changed the election law again, a coincidence ....
      7. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 21: 45 New
        -1
        Quote: The same Lech
        But how will the people decide?

        What kind of people do you mean?
    2. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 21 June 2020 16: 02 New
      -8
      So for this purpose he is changing the Constitution. Hypocrite..

      Well, go and vote against the amendments to the Constitution. Business then.
      You are against, I am for: 0-0.
  • Revival
    Revival 21 June 2020 17: 51 New
    +2
    Such a wording sounds primitive already, change, this one doesn't work anymore
  • antivirus
    antivirus 21 June 2020 19: 52 New
    +3
    I am famous for the small spoons and aircraft carriers of 70 tons of VI

    not noticeable comment - VVP covers the receiver, Mishustin’s office is quietly working and the receiver sits unlit before the election campaign, then - bats - appeal to the GDP: "I ask you to support the young ... I’m sure of him, we prepared the team together."
  • Bomb
    Bomb 21 June 2020 22: 17 New
    -1
    Now, as a humpbacked horse, it dives from one boiler to another, rejuvenates and disappears for 40 years.
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 21 June 2020 23: 07 New
    +3
    I would propose such an amendment - deputies to the State. The Russian Duma should be elected no more than 2 (two) times, without a state pension. Sat in the state. The Duma is 10 years old and that's enough.
  • zenion
    zenion 22 June 2020 14: 51 New
    0
    He forgot to add - if you don’t choose me, then the tanks will start shooting again.
  • Asad
    Asad 21 June 2020 15: 20 New
    11
    Well, who would doubt it!
  • Ghost of reagan
    Ghost of reagan 21 June 2020 15: 24 New
    +7
    Democracy in Russian .... The largest and at the same time the shortest joke in history.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 35 New
      -7
      Well, straight Reagan blew from the grave ... close the window in the crypt. smile
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 21 June 2020 15: 49 New
      +4
      For Russians, this word "der Kratiya" has always been abusive.
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 21 June 2020 16: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: Incvizitor
        For Russians, this word "der Kratiya" has always been abusive.

        Oh, but once upon a time at the Novgorod veche government issues were resolved ...
    3. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 21 June 2020 16: 06 New
      -3
      Democracy

      Find a better country. For example, Switzerland. The garbage in the bag of the wrong color discard and order. After a couple of days, the finesman is 300 francs
  • Tartar
    Tartar 21 June 2020 15: 27 New
    15
    head of state says majority of Russians support amendment

    Why then to vote if the head of state already knows everything request
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 21 June 2020 16: 09 New
      12
      Well, as it should, especially since the CEC staff will ensure that the percentage of those who vote for amendments to the Constitution does not exceed 100%.
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 21: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: parusnik
        CEC staff will ensure that the percentage of those who vote for amendments to the Constitution does not exceed 100%.

        So, in Microsoft Office Excel, you can drive a fairly simple formula into a cell. This is now taught even in the secondary school kids.
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 21 June 2020 15: 29 New
    32
    Lord, yes, you declare yourself already president for life, what crumple bread? Brezhnev sat out, now the Queen of England is next in line. His feet will carry him out of the Kremlin ...
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 21 June 2020 15: 50 New
      14
      Lord, yes, you declare yourself already president for life, what crumple bread?
      .... These will be the next amendments to the Constitution, but a bit later, during the period of the first zeroed period .. laughing
      1. Sahalinets
        Sahalinets 21 June 2020 15: 53 New
        23
        Well yes. Putin’s stability lies in the fact that he consistently violates absolutely all his promises. He promised not to be elected for a third term, not to change the Constitution for himself ... And how he promised not to raise the retirement age! While I am president, there will be no increase!
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 21 June 2020 21: 06 New
          -7
          Promises are not a document, officially supported by anything, you can promise whatever you want, but whether it will turn out to be done in practice because you want a completely different question, the world does not stand still, everything changes and this also plays a significant role in fulfilling promises .
    2. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 21 June 2020 16: 00 New
      -4
      Merkel forgot to remember :))) People choose it means so be it!
    3. Hypatius
      Hypatius 21 June 2020 19: 45 New
      0
      Brezhnev sat out ...
      Three popes elected for life! laughing
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 21 June 2020 23: 43 New
        +1
        Benedict 16 - 19.04.2005/28.02.2013/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX The first Pope abdicated voluntarily. Francis the acting Pope is alive and well, which is what he wants for you.
        1. Liam
          Liam 22 June 2020 00: 39 New
          -1
          Quote: cat Rusich
          Benedict 16 - 19.04.2005/28.02.2013/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX First Pope Abdicated

          Far from the first. At least the seventh. But most likely the tenth
  • Shkworen
    Shkworen 21 June 2020 15: 30 New
    +8
    yes who would doubt :)
  • Vladyka Ecumenical
    Vladyka Ecumenical 21 June 2020 15: 30 New
    -2
    And I would like to see Platoshkina as President.
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 21 June 2020 15: 34 New
      -2
      Ds, this is now in trend. Choose a clown president.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 21 June 2020 16: 09 New
        12
        Quote: Sergey39
        Ds, this is now in trend. Choose a clown president.

        And this is an insult to power .. wassat we choose the same president laughing Did not expect from you laughing
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 21 June 2020 18: 51 New
          -6
          The president and I are all right. But many people really want to change him to some kind of clown. There are no real candidates on the horizon.
          1. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 22 June 2020 09: 01 New
            -1
            And the same Stalin (was it really someone who was seriously looking at Stalin then?), Lenin until 1917, or even Putin until 1999, could you have looked very much ahead of time? And what, therefore, had to leave the EBN, for example, if it had not left? Who was the real candidate in politics in 1999 before Putin was introduced? Zyuganov, Yavlinsky, Zhirinovsky? Also there was no one to get it except for EBN .. The logic is slightly flawed, don’t you?
      2. Vladyka Ecumenical
        Vladyka Ecumenical 21 June 2020 16: 49 New
        -14
        The clown is you and your kind.
      3. Revival
        Revival 21 June 2020 18: 25 New
        -2
        As I understand it, you are now so mercilessly trampled on .....
        You didn’t like zeroing at all.
      4. New
        New Year day 21 June 2020 19: 09 New
        +7
        Quote: Sergey39
        Choose a clown president.

        still need to figure out which is more dangerous for the country: president is a clown, or is a president a clown?
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 37 New
      -1
      And I would like to see Platoshkina as President.

      Platoshkin is too impulsive ... maybe he can crack his opponent with a club with his club.
      The president must have an iron limit.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 21 June 2020 15: 50 New
        13
        Quote: The same Lech
        Platoshkin is too impulsive ... maybe he can crack his opponent with a club with his club.

        Oh, the club in the government wouldn’t hurt, and officials wouldn’t hinder it ..
      2. parusnik
        parusnik 21 June 2020 16: 20 New
        10
        The same LEKHA [/ b [b]]
        The president must have an iron limit.
        ... I’ve already said so much that he will not be re-elected or that he will not increase his retirement age and “go like that, go to school, and then, bam! And a second shift!” .. There really is an iron extract needed. smile
      3. your1970
        your1970 21 June 2020 21: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: The same Lech
        And I would like to see Platoshkina as President.

        Platoshkin is too impulsive ... maybe he can crack his opponent with a club with his club.
        The president must have an iron limit.
        и a decent program.
        And not populist sentences like
        "13. Direct election the population of judges of district and regional courts. A candidate for a judge is not entitled to work in the bodies of the Investigative Committee, the police and the prosecutor's office for 5 years before being elected a judge. A report of judges to voters every month with live webcasts. "
        -we have chosen the head of the district in the 90s belay fellow then the truth was planted almost immediately ...
        "19. The restoration of the union state on the basis of the republics of the former USSR on the basis of the free will of their citizens." - a trifle remained state Do you agree with the CIS? Given the positions of the country 404, Georgia, Turkmenistan, the Limitrofs, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan - we will only have Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan and Tajikistan ...
    3. parusnik
      parusnik 21 June 2020 15: 47 New
      +9
      They will not allow him to rattle the shackles as a fighter against the regime, to be a presidential candidate .. Yes, and then with the ruling class, he did not come to any compromise ... If there was a compromise, he would not be arrested ... Allende was also a compromise with the ruling class, but he was forced to go further in his reforms, under the pressure of the people. Al'ende still chose the people because they believed in him. They deposed him for the wrong choice ...
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 21 June 2020 16: 12 New
        0
        So, the Russian people, too, no one has chosen in the last 30 years of liberal power ...
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 21 June 2020 18: 37 New
        +3
        About 37% of the voters who took part in them voted for Allende in the popular elections. According to the then Chilean legislation, in such cases the second round of the popular elections was not held, and the president was elected by the parliament from the two candidates who received the largest number of votes in the popular elections. His supporters agreed with the Christian Democrats, and as a result of a vote by parliament, Allende became president of Chile.
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 22: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Sergej1972
          About 37% of the voters who took part in them voted for Allende in the popular elections.

          Just think, 37% ... We have a chance, 146% of voters voted!
          This is SCALE !!!
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 21 June 2020 21: 09 New
      -2
      I would like to see this populist canister at the mall.
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 21 June 2020 15: 34 New
    +3
    It’s too early to give forecasts who will be the head of the country after 2024, GDP may replay the topic, the best option for him to leave is the head of the Security Council, with the appointment of a worthy successor and sensible prime minister
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 21 June 2020 22: 52 New
      0
      Americans and most Latin American countries do without prime ministers at all; they have enough presidents.
      .
  • Gato
    Gato 21 June 2020 15: 34 New
    10
    I’ll insert my 5 kopecks because of the curb. into the all-Russian ... uh .. discussion.
    Personally, I am not a fan of GDP. But! If we had a politician of this scale and similar views in Ukraine, 90 percent would vote for him (even in Bandera oblasts). But no, all sorts of excrement pops up ... If you want, like ours, send him to retire.
    1. maiman61
      maiman61 21 June 2020 16: 14 New
      -15
      Stink from dill!
  • Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 21 June 2020 15: 36 New
    14
    Today, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that he does not exclude the possibility of running for the next presidential term if the amendments to the Basic Law are finally adopted.

    Who would doubt .. Long live the autocracy!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 47 New
      +2
      Who would doubt .. Long live the autocracy!

      belay
      Well, they survived until the autocracy.
  • alone
    alone 21 June 2020 15: 37 New
    +6
    over the past 100 years, people have never decided anything when choosing power ... And as for the nomination, it was a half-expected statement and all this fuss is done so that he can sit on the Kremlin until his death ...
    P.S. One thing is just alarming .. Now everyone who will be in power (After him) will make amendments to the constitution on their own whims .. And this is a direct threat to the state
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 21 June 2020 15: 37 New
    +4
    Deja vu, not otherwise. I wonder what "new" motto will be invented? What promise fresh? It’s definitely not just that “Santa Barbara” came to us at one time
  • Benedict
    Benedict 21 June 2020 15: 39 New
    -20
    Well, it will begin now !!!!! Down with the "bloody regime" .. wassat
    The crowd rushed here already .. and trample everyone in a row !!!
    Well, let's .. laughing

    Goodbye comrades .. hi
  • parusnik
    parusnik 21 June 2020 15: 41 New
    13
    Today, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that he does not exclude the possibility of running for the next presidential term if the amendments to the Basic Law are finally adopted.
    .... What hypocrisy laughing The Federal Assembly adopted the amendments, it remains for the meetings of the subjects .... and that’s all ... And the elections will essentially be uncontested, because against the background of other candidates Putin will look like a candidate that only votes for him ... laughing And the EP in the Duma will also gain the majority ... Such faith in the party .... laughing
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 56 New
      0
      Such faith in the party ...

      So I want to blur the slogans ... smile
      “The party is the mind, honor and conscience of our era”; “The party is our helmsman!” “The people and the party are one!”
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 21 June 2020 15: 58 New
        +2
        [B]
        “The party is the mind, honor and conscience of our era”; “The party is our helmsman!” “The people and the party are one!” [
        /bapter....And you doubt it? laughing
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 21 June 2020 16: 10 New
          +1
          I am afraid that those who doubt after voting for the new Constitution will fall into the category of enemies of the people and the party.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 21 June 2020 16: 37 New
            +4
            It's like giving a drink ... smile Especially when they offer you their historical truth. And you just say that this is not right ... And according to the adopted amendment, "along the tundra, by rail" ...
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 21 June 2020 16: 16 New
      +7
      EP I see bound and wandering in Syktyvkar: in Siberia, EP has already arbitrarily sold all the taiga to the Chinese.
  • GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 21 June 2020 15: 44 New
    0
    Well, leave the government and Medvedev Dmitry Anatolyevich return, he loves us very much! fellow
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 58 New
      +1
      Medvedev Dmitry Anatolyevich

      Just forget it began to be reminded again.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 21 June 2020 16: 17 New
      +4
      This is only in Free Texas!
  • Tomich3
    Tomich3 21 June 2020 15: 44 New
    +7
    And then there will be an imitation of elections with the "opposition" (communists and LDPR).
    1. AUL
      AUL 21 June 2020 16: 07 New
      +6
      Ksyusha can still get out of naphthalene.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 21 June 2020 21: 11 New
        0
        Naphthalene Horse cannot stand it - take pity on it.
  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 21 June 2020 15: 46 New
    +6
    Actually, no one doubted.
    Time to leave, few people succeeded ...
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 21 June 2020 16: 05 New
      12
      In 2024, Putin will be 72 years old. Stalin lived to be 73 years old, Brezhnev to 75, the truth is in insanity. Where is Putin in such a hurry, because before the elections of 2024 another 4 years, even the coronavirus is no longer a hindrance, all government agencies urgently approved the amendments, now people are being driven to vote. Quickly reset to zero, what did they think there? New reforms on the impoverishment of the population, where much further?
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 21 June 2020 15: 48 New
    24
    "- How do you feel about the possibility of extending the term of presidency and the possibility of being elected to this post three or more times?

    - I have a negative attitude to this.

    “Are you really going to leave the post in four years?”

    - Firstly, we need to live to see March 2004. And only after that we can talk about the next election of 2008. But now I can say: I am against anyone, no matter what good considerations he is guided by, violating the Constitution of our country. "
    Putin 2003.
    "I was not tempted to stay for a third term - never. From the first day of working as President of the Russian Federation, I immediately decided for myself that I would not violate the current Constitution"
    Putin 2008.
    "I will not change the Constitution for myself."
    Putin 2012.
    Does anyone else believe him? winked
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 21 June 2020 22: 38 New
      -1
      Quote: Sahalinets
      "- How do you feel about the possibility of extending the term of presidency and the possibility of being elected to this post three or more times?

      - I have a negative attitude to this.

      “Are you really going to leave the post in four years?”

      - Firstly, we need to live to see March 2004. And only after that we can talk about the next election of 2008. But now I can say: I am against anyone, no matter what good considerations he is guided by, violating the Constitution of our country. "
      Putin 2003.
      "I was not tempted to stay for a third term - never. From the first day of working as President of the Russian Federation, I immediately decided for myself that I would not violate the current Constitution"
      Putin 2008.
      "I will not change the Constitution for myself."
      Putin 2012.
      Does anyone else believe him? winked

      ,, ... will come again, will begin to fulfill two norms ... ''
  • Magic archer
    Magic archer 21 June 2020 15: 51 New
    +3
    All amendments except zeroing are good. But. For 20 years of reign (we also consider Dimon, since it was already clear who was in charge), it is time and honor to know! Is it really like that on the throne !? Already even those who used to be FOR now are against !!! Tired !!! Get away as it should.
    1. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 21 June 2020 16: 05 New
      -10
      Why do you think for everyone? People will vote in favor. Not because he likes him, but because they don’t want a new unrest. It will be so.
    2. strelokmira
      strelokmira 21 June 2020 16: 08 New
      10
      All, but what about 7 senators for a permanent term, and lifelong immunity after the expiration of the presidential term?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 21 June 2020 21: 13 New
        -3
        And who will touch him after the presidential term - he’s like it, you know, the bearer of all state secrets of Russia for 20 years.
      2. surok1
        surok1 22 June 2020 06: 53 New
        +2
        I think life-long senatorism is too much like an oligarchy.
    3. Region68
      Region68 21 June 2020 16: 38 New
      0
      Which amendment is good for example
      1. Hypatius
        Hypatius 21 June 2020 20: 00 New
        0
        For example, public authority. There was the power of the people, and in contrast to the power of the public. Thus, logically, this is anti-people and occupation.
        Public power is established during the formation of states or the occupation of countries. When there are no citizens, or people are deprived of citizenship.
        Consolidation of the fact that Russian democracy (the demos class) bribes-forces the people to go on plebeysyt (to confirm entry into the plebos class).
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 22 June 2020 00: 55 New
          +1
          What kind of public - the public in our country is very mottled, there will be no consensus on everything.
  • Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 21 June 2020 15: 52 New
    +1
    No, well, do you want alesha YouTube?
    1. Region68
      Region68 21 June 2020 16: 44 New
      -6
      And why doesn’t it suit you?
  • Saratoga833
    Saratoga833 21 June 2020 15: 57 New
    +7
    You can tear the chair from zero only with your head! So he will sit until the performance of Swan Lake!
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 21 June 2020 16: 54 New
      -6
      With your analytical mind, it’s just the right time to solve problems on a global scale.
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 21 June 2020 15: 58 New
    12

    Enjoy it!
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 21 June 2020 15: 59 New
    -4
    And I'm for. Who builds the ships? Maybe you? Who is rebuilding the army and navy? Maybe you? Ask yourself this simple question.
    1. Sahalinets
      Sahalinets 21 June 2020 16: 08 New
      +8
      People are recovering labor, and officials are stealing. And who appointed these officials?
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 21 June 2020 16: 49 New
        -5
        I well remember this question - while Putin is in power, the West will not shine ... If they change to something more radical ... I am for it. Hardworking people work on order.
      2. dvina71
        dvina71 21 June 2020 19: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: Sahalinets
        People are recovering labor, and officials are stealing. And who appointed these officials?

        Painfully reminds a liberal mantra ..- The Soviet people defeated in the war, and Stalin climbed out of the bunker in May 45th ..
    2. Dronza
      Dronza 21 June 2020 17: 10 New
      +7
      So this is his work, he was chosen for this. Why dignify what he should do so. The question is not what he does, but what he should do more and better.
    3. New
      New Year day 21 June 2020 19: 13 New
      +9
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      And I'm for. Who builds the ships? Maybe you? Who is rebuilding the army and navy? Maybe you?

      Putin Build personally? -And I thought, a country, hard workers? Whose money is it for? “On your own?” “I thought, on our taxes?”
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      Ask yourself this simple question.

      Who builds and whose money? And who steals them?
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 21 June 2020 20: 03 New
        -9
        Yes, Putin is building, he personally. Although maybe you personally build? You know, when I came to this site, it seemed to me that I would find real patriots here. But what do I see? Fuck you in the ass.
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 22: 17 New
          +2
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          You know, when I came to this site, it seemed to me that I would find real patriots here. But what do I see?


          You see ?
          What, highly patriotic news!
          Is that us too? Which "in the pope ..." are to blame?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 22 June 2020 16: 46 New
            0
            And that a few years ago, Russia invested 150 billion in US assets - the current 6,8 is nothing at all.
          2. Sergey Averchenkov
            Sergey Averchenkov 26 June 2020 15: 27 New
            0
            About how many wonderful Ukrainians we are educated spirit. Are you in the pope? I would look at you if you had a million ... Like you would like on this ass - you would invest and only rejoice.
    4. Revival
      Revival 21 June 2020 20: 04 New
      +3
      Especially the fleet, yeah
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 21 June 2020 20: 12 New
        -2
        Yes, but what bothers you?
        1. Revival
          Revival 21 June 2020 20: 14 New
          0
          Confuses:
          a miserable number of class 1 and 2 ships laid down and at the same time built over these 20 years. And without them, the fleet is not the Fleet.
          2. Is it a feat for building ships in general for such a country, or how should this be done in principle?
          1. Sergey Averchenkov
            Sergey Averchenkov 21 June 2020 20: 22 New
            -5
            Let's start with the age - I'm 56. And it was during the time of Yeltsin that the army and navy were abandoned ... and raising it is much harder than rebuilding. I understand that everyone wants destroyers, but the situation is that we all pissed off (thanks to Yeltsin). Now slowly we are slowly recovering
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 21 June 2020 21: 15 New
              +7
              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              (thanks to Yeltsin)

              why not the Pechenegs and Polovtsy?
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 21 June 2020 21: 21 New
              +4
              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              Now slowly we are slowly recovering

              It can be seen, for example, with the PD-50.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 22 June 2020 16: 53 New
                0
                This trough was already 40 years old at the time of the dive and all these PDs were made in another country by order of the USSR.
            3. Vadim237
              Vadim237 22 June 2020 16: 51 New
              0
              Russia has never built ships using low visibility technology before, and the USSR had modern problems with modern marine diesel engines to localize foreign ones, but even this did not work - now we are starting to do everything ourselves from here and the delays.
              1. Sergey Averchenkov
                Sergey Averchenkov 26 June 2020 15: 09 New
                +1
                I see all your answers - "Polovtsy and Pechenegs", "on the example of PD-50", "To this trough" ... You are galloping, more than you who can not hate Russia. They disguised themselves as Russians, but you just don’t understand what they carry from you for a mile away. Ugh on you.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 21 June 2020 16: 00 New
    -5
    About prowling and sabotaging decisions, officials stop working correctly noticed. And some of the most gifted begin to poke harder ...
  • Fungus
    Fungus 21 June 2020 16: 00 New
    -8
    Great news
  • Benedict
    Benedict 21 June 2020 16: 02 New
    -3
    Who will vote for Putin and Costituti, give me a MINUS !!!!!
    Goes to statistics .. hi
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 16: 31 New
      -13
      Who will vote for Putin and Costituti, give me a MINUS !!!

      I’ll put you a plus, but still vote for Putin and the constitution. hi
  • SS-18
    SS-18 21 June 2020 16: 05 New
    13
    read the article before dinner .. indignation knew no bounds. wife fed meatballs with mashed potatoes .. like and nothing article))
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 21 June 2020 21: 16 New
      -3
      The cutlet from the heat of indignation did not get stuck in the throat.
  • strelokmira
    strelokmira 21 June 2020 16: 06 New
    +8
    What an impatient, even before the referendum did not endure laughing
  • Nikolay87
    Nikolay87 21 June 2020 16: 07 New
    15
    They were waiting for Medvedev to be removed, they thought "that we’ll live now", now the constitution is not correct, now we will change it and we will live ?! yes
    Let's be honest, the constitution has a lot to change and add and it needs to be done thoroughly, conducting discussions in the scientific community, and not so that the president said the main amendments, others added that they had time and that’s all. If it’s good, then it probably needs to be completely rewritten, and not masked, “zeroing” under the “abolition of dual citizenship for officials.” Are we now suffering from the fact that officials have dual citizenship or from the fact that they withdraw money abroad?
    They will accept, they will not accept, what's the difference ?! For an ordinary citizen, nothing will change, and politics, whether external or internal, will not fundamentally change.
    So ...

    Pysyz This vote created only more questions than it will give possible answers. This is normal?
  • maiman61
    maiman61 21 June 2020 16: 09 New
    +1
    Tired of worse than turnip! Happy people, leave!
    1. Region68
      Region68 21 June 2020 16: 26 New
      +2
      You don’t mind .. Why should he leave
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 21 June 2020 18: 40 New
      -2
      But I'm not tired.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 21 June 2020 18: 57 New
        +9
        Quote: Sergej1972
        But I'm not tired.

        And he will not ask you, your opinion is not at all interesting to him, he has a bunker, rich friends, a tunnel and a fear for his own life.
        1. surok1
          surok1 22 June 2020 07: 03 New
          0
          Some judge by themselves. Produce substance and throw at an opponent. What the vessel is filled with, then pours out of it.
  • Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov 21 June 2020 16: 16 New
    +4
    Will we just watch him put a new jaw to improve diction? It’s high time to go to the monastery — to remorse sins, and not to think about the Russian girl. Although, what a Russian - about chain dogs grown for 20 years all the thoughts
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 22: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Oleg Skvortsov
      Will we just watch him put a new jaw to improve diction?

      Over the years, electronic technology has taken leaps and bounds.
  • Harry cuper
    Harry cuper 21 June 2020 16: 20 New
    +3
    No one doubted what this scam was about.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 21 June 2020 16: 21 New
    11
    Judging by the comments, how can Putin support 70%? And 25% is unlikely to be typed!
    1. yfast
      yfast 21 June 2020 16: 51 New
      +4
      Many pensioners tarred by the TV will be for carrots. But the Darkest began to understand the continuity of power for some time as "without me in any way." But after zeroing in 2024, the elections themselves must be won, and many are already sick of hypocrisy. It was good, the chair ruined.
      1. Nikolay87
        Nikolay87 21 June 2020 17: 14 New
        +5
        Carrots and does not smell, rather for the "stability". Nobody wants shocks in old age request
    2. Nikolay87
      Nikolay87 21 June 2020 16: 57 New
      12
      You won’t believe how many people on the street live with animal needs, who are not at all interested in politics, economics, philosophy ... it is important for them how to chop money and arrange their life according to all the rules of a consumer society. I personally have a sister and her husband like that. There is no critical thinking and does not smell. Any leading questions that make you look at the situation from a different angle cause children's emotional reactions (such as “you just argue or object”) and it’s more fun to watch how they change their minds depending on the situation and each time tell how their decision / opinion was incredibly correct, although six months ago they claimed completely different things and firmly believed in their loyalty wassat
      Here is such a schizophrenia comrades laughing laughing
    3. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 24 June 2020 15: 09 New
      +1
      judging by the minuses 21-10 it’s only here where various pro-Western trolls rave about 50 hi Not like your two percent tongue
  • Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 21 June 2020 16: 24 New
    -8
    Only Vladimir Vladimirovich good today, no other Russia is needed negative
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  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 21 June 2020 16: 28 New
    +4
    And why does this news not surprise me?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 21 June 2020 16: 43 New
      +7
      Because the amazing is nearby, but it is forbidden .... laughing
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 21 June 2020 16: 33 New
    +5
    Oh, come on, break the comedy. All the tweaks are in full view.
  • Poetry
    Poetry 21 June 2020 16: 36 New
    -5
    Volodya.

    Then when the hand of his venal
    We have the rules of a democrat everywhere
    There was Tsar Boris, drunk and wicked,
    And Grozny was like Stalingrad,

    When all the "young reformers"
    Kicked our long-suffering Russia
    Chubais with Nemtsov, other innovators
    They also tried to pretend to be the messiah,

    When scum without conscience and honor
    Flocked from overseas lands,
    There was a time of fear, a time of tin,
    Everything was so brutal and boorish

    And the enemy of yesterday was at home with us,
    Walked so important with the queen's face
    "The End of Russia" - he thought from behind the cordon,
    And laughed out of tune (we say friends)

    When the factories bought up for a penny
    Industry has been smashed into trash,
    It seemed reptiles: we are almost primates,
    They wanted to quarrel, to plant in the corners.

    We are already close to the collapse, like? ..
    The last nail was picked up by a cowboy.
    But at that moment he appeared. Volodya.
    Our longboat has been replaced by the steering.

    The drunk boatswain handed over the helm,
    Discharged ashore in the very first port,
    Volodya to them disgusted all plans
    And there was a step to cross the line.

    All these scum left
    Still not believing in our wonderful salvation.
    We politely sent them! In Domodedovo.
    They began to recover from shock.

    What happened after, we will not remember.
    A lot was left behind.
    Thank you for everything, comrade Putin.
    For the fact that we remained a country.

    2020 Kingisepp.
  • mag nit
    mag nit 21 June 2020 16: 38 New
    -2
    He will only go forward with his feet.
  • Sergo go
    Sergo go 21 June 2020 16: 40 New
    -1
    Quote: The same Lech
    But I voted for him ... there were no more presidential contenders of this magnitude.
    And so far no one has been seen on the horizon who could reach for the presidency with him.

    shitty when the brain sees nothing further
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 June 2020 16: 53 New
      +1
      shitty when the brain sees nothing further

      Sergo Go, you probably share your experience ... sympathize with you ... develop your brain, it will still be useful to you.
  • Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus 21 June 2020 16: 41 New
    +5
    Naaaaaaaa ... what a surprise! I never would have thought.
  • Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus 21 June 2020 16: 42 New
    +8
    Quote: Sahalinets
    Yeah, man! For 20 years your idol has steered the country and it is necessary, we are again in a critical situation!

    aha .. "it never happened and here again ... again!"
  • Sergo go
    Sergo go 21 June 2020 16: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: steel maker
    Judging by the comments, how can Putin support 70%? And 25% is unlikely to be typed!

    he spares no money on his propaganda on TV and social networks, so again we are waiting for 70% +
  • hermit
    hermit 21 June 2020 16: 51 New
    +2
    Let him finally be declared emperor! And end this comedy of choices.
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  • Dimon5678
    Dimon5678 21 June 2020 17: 06 New
    +1
    No wonder he holds a meaningless referendum despite the coronavirus. He wants to rule 36 years ahead of Brezhnev wants to overtake Stalin. Although he himself said that those who have been in power for 10 years are starting to go crazy
    1. alone
      alone 21 June 2020 17: 10 New
      +9
      Quote: Dimon5678
      Although he himself said that those who have been in power for 10 years are starting to go crazy

      laughing If we compare for 20 years what he said and what he did, a very interesting book will turn out under the title "How to fool everyone in 20 years" wassat
    2. maiman61
      maiman61 21 June 2020 20: 26 New
      -1
      Well, he was right! Here is the result.
    3. Стена
      Стена 21 June 2020 21: 53 New
      +2
      This is not a referendum, but a plebiscite. The authorities are afraid to hold a referendum.
    4. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 22: 33 New
      -2
      Quote: Dimon5678
      No wonder he holds a meaningless referendum despite the coronavirus.

      Not "despite", but thanks to the operation - "coronavirus".
      1. kot28.ru
        kot28.ru 24 June 2020 15: 13 New
        +1
        Well yes
        That’s all the Kremlin muddied
        Wuhan, China, Europe, the states, so what is it, the whole world subjugated to the gallery?
  • AAK
    AAK 21 June 2020 17: 12 New
    +4
    Over the 20 years of leadership of the country, it is not possible to find and prepare a relatively worthy successor for 1 term, after which again, without any nullification, you can go for 2 legal presidential terms - this is not serious for a serious politician ...
  • Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 21 June 2020 17: 13 New
    +7
    Oh, what a surprise, Putin for a new term. Not again, but again, as they say ...
  • demo
    demo 21 June 2020 17: 13 New
    +7
    A few days earlier, the head of state said that the majority of Russians supported the introduction of amendments.

    Very doubtful.
    For example.
    My family has around 50 people. People of our age.
    None, I emphasize, not one supports the idea of ​​voting for amendments.
    Cause? Zeroing the deadlines.
    Everything else does not count.
    My adult children are about the same.
    Another hundred people are against.
    Already 150.
    And they all have families.
    Those. almost 500 people.

    I, and many are interested, but who is for.
    1. The party EP.
    2. Appointment governors.
    3. Security officials.
    4. City-region managers.
    5. The initiators, the successors of Zakharchenko-Sugrobov-Cherkalin, etc.
    6. Close to the circle of GDP (Rotenberg, Kovalchuk and the like).

    So think about who needs and for what these amendments.

    According to the president of the country, he personally firmly believes in the correctness of the adoption of amendments to the Constitution, since the current Basic Law was adopted in the "difficult period - when tanks fired at the parliament."

    This passage can be understood as follows: the adopted Constitution of 93 gave dictatorial powers to stabilize the country.
    So, let’s continue the thought, the current situation implies stability.
    Therefore, the powers of the head of state should be reduced to a minimum.
    Time, tea, not military. But tanks do not shoot at the parliament or at the demonstrators?
    1. maiman61
      maiman61 21 June 2020 20: 29 New
      -4
      Oh, don’t talk about security officials. They are not stupid people and not officials, they are one of us!
      1. demo
        demo 21 June 2020 22: 15 New
        +3
        This is until you (God save you from this!) Did not fall into their firm and tenacious paws.
        Then you have a diametrically opposite opinion.
        That is how they look at us as legitimate prey.
        I know what I'm talking about.
        I have relatives both among those and among those who came to them.

        Granted power to one person over another, even short-term, quickly turns the bearer of power into a predatory animal.
        The human appearance is deceiving, my friend.
        1. maiman61
          maiman61 22 June 2020 12: 19 New
          +1
          I know that very well! This is an axiom! But they do not relate to power the way the authorities would like to think.
      2. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 21 June 2020 22: 22 New
        -3
        Quote: maiman61
        Oh, don’t talk about security officials. They are not stupid people and not officials, they are one of us!

        ... only without a tail ....
    2. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn 21 June 2020 20: 43 New
      +3
      Who else will vote in favor? Grandmothers are retired. They will be reminded that they added a pension this year and will add it next year. Activist students who are promised social elevators. Office plankton, which is good under any government, if only they would not touch it. Teachers, doctors, under the watchful eye of their leaders. So a good percentage will be typed. The rest is finished.
      1. demo
        demo 21 June 2020 22: 24 New
        +3
        You can't put a Cerberus over every teacher and doctor.
        But on the account of those whom you called "office plankton", we can say the following.
        More precisely, I will repeat what I said earlier.
        The situation in the country is not encouraging.
        Didn’t work: cafes, restaurants, baths, laundries, fitness clubs, entertainment centers. Many enterprises producing essentials and much, much more.
        This is millions of people sitting at home, not getting paid.
        But many of them were "dizzy with success."
        And they took a mortgage to purchase apartments, cars, trips abroad, etc.
        And it may happen that there is nowhere to go after self-isolation (a word that came up with the opposite!).
        And all that apparent well-being may begin to collapse.
        And people, even the "white collar", even the "office plankton" are not insane.
        They understand how it all ends for them.
        Loss of property, loss of status, change in established habits and much more.
        So who should they say thanks for that?
        What amendments will they vote for?
        If this is the fault of the "nullified" happened (and someone else)?
    3. Стена
      Стена 21 June 2020 21: 56 New
      -1
      You are wrong. He said an absolute majority.
    4. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 21 June 2020 22: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: demo
      A few days earlier, the head of state said that the majority of Russians supported the introduction of amendments.

      Very doubtful.
      For example.
      My family has around 50 people. People of our age.
      None, I emphasize, not one supports the idea of ​​voting for amendments.
      Cause? Zeroing the deadlines.
      Everything else does not count.
      My adult children are about the same.
      Another hundred people are against.
      Already 150.
      And they all have families.
      Those. almost 500 people.

      Did the president talk to you all about this? Did you ask?
      No.
      That is why you are not in the "majority" ...
      1. demo
        demo 21 June 2020 22: 38 New
        +3
        Thank you.
        Here are the goodies.