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The ground attack aircraft bought by Argentina from France cannot be lifted: the reason is reported

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France delivered five Dassault-Breguet Super Etendard carrier-based attack aircraft to Argentina. Unfortunately, you can’t lift them into the air at the moment. The reasons are reported in the Argentinean media,


In the pilot seats for aircraft purchased for the Argentinean naval forces, there are not enough squibs for ejection. Argentines cannot directly get them from the manufacturer, since these elements are produced in the UK, with which Buenos Aires is, to put it mildly, in a difficult relationship after the war over the Falkland Islands (Malvinas) in the 80s of the last century.

Super Etendard supersonic deck attack aircraft were developed in 1974, after which 85 such aircraft were produced by French aircraft manufacturers. In France itself, these aircraft are withdrawn from service.

Argentina recently decided to acquire five attack aircraft, paying $ 15 million for them. These planes planned to equip the 2nd fighter-strike naval squadron aviation. Because of the problem with the configuration, the Argentines will not abandon the delivered combat vehicles, because they have proven themselves well in the Falkland War, causing significant damage to the British the fleet.

Buenos Aires is going to solve the problem of missing spare parts for ejection seats independently, purchasing them through a foreign intermediary company. Therefore, the commissioning of "new" aircraft will take at least two years.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 14 June 2020 18: 14
    +1
    These aircraft performed best during the Falkleno-Malvinas conflict. Largely due to the ability to strike blows "exosets".
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 June 2020 18: 22
      +1
      I never cease to be surprised .. dancing on a rake ... apparently the money doesn’t smell, they’re sawing ... they’re sawing ...
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 14 June 2020 19: 30
        0
        and the boats burn strangely in them ...
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 14 June 2020 20: 03
          +6
          Representatives of the Armenian Diaspora clearly participated in the sale from France laughing . And quite by accident, Uncle Ashot has access to the English factories, but you understand, you need to throw a little.
          All this is of course a joke. But...
    2. knn54
      knn54 14 June 2020 19: 30
      +4
      A light attack aircraft at low altitude in bad weather conditions, went to the target and hit it. During the conflict, none of the "Supers" were lost.
      "Old love doesn't rust."
      1. PilotS37
        PilotS37 15 June 2020 09: 53
        +1
        Quote: knn54
        A light attack aircraft at low altitude in bad weather conditions, went to the target and hit it. During the conflict, none of the "Supers" were lost.
        "Old love doesn't rust."

        How "light" is he ?! - 10 tons. This is not any "Pukara".
      2. Kurare
        Kurare 15 June 2020 13: 13
        0
        Quote: knn54
        During the conflict, none of the "Super" was lost. "Old love doesn't rust."

        Love may not rust, but iron rusts. A lot of water has since flowed and Super Etendard is not the first fresh airplanes.
    3. Boratsagdiev
      Boratsagdiev 14 June 2020 22: 03
      +2
      Only by a strange coincidence, not everything purchased by Argentina from France worked.
      Including missiles.
    4. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 15 June 2020 21: 13
      0
      If Argentina received all the ordered ships and missiles, it would be much more fun. But even so, they proved to be quite good, taking into account the fact that the French did not transfer the "exoset" simulator either.
  2. Zeev zeev
    Zeev zeev 14 June 2020 18: 15
    +8
    I have a problem too. Given the frankly miserable price for attack aircraft, you can add a couple more millions per plane and put in new ejection seats. Any manufacturer.
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 15 June 2020 00: 39
      +4
      Quote: ZeevZeev
      add a couple more millions to the plane and put in new ejection seats. Any manufacturer.

      Not everything is as simple as it seems.
      1. Zeev zeev
        Zeev zeev 15 June 2020 10: 51
        0
        If everything was simple, the price tag would be a million dollars and no more. Two million is with the integration of a new seat on the plane
    2. VO3A
      VO3A 15 June 2020 12: 11
      0
      Go to LEGO play! Can’t you add brains for a couple of millions?
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 15 June 2020 21: 14
      -1
      If a couple of lyamas per plane, then taking into account the 15 lyamas that have already been paid, you can buy other planes - newer.
  3. Well done
    Well done 14 June 2020 18: 17
    10
    Catapult squibs? Through intermediaries? Poor Argentine pilots! I remembered the Chinese petards and the song - "We will not take off, so we will swim ...".
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 June 2020 18: 31
      -1
      Quote: Welldone
      "We will not take off, so we will swim ...".

      Cho, and "Zemfira" is also theirs ... belay not ... I thought she was only Litvinova ...
      1. Well done
        Well done 14 June 2020 18: 37
        +2
        Well, if Ufa is Argentina ... And then who will understand them, these creative people? Efremov, too, like Russian, but it turned out ..... laughing
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 14 June 2020 18: 39
          -4
          Quote: Welldone
          Well, if Ufa is Argentina ...

          right now globalism ...
  4. polpot
    polpot 14 June 2020 18: 19
    +1
    In what way, but should they also fly?
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 14 June 2020 20: 59
      +2
      Quote: polpot
      In what way, but should they also fly?

      Do you think that they planned to lower them on the enemies from the hill? winked
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 14 June 2020 18: 22
    +1
    [b
    ] In the pilot seats of aircraft purchased for the Argentinean naval forces, there are not enough squibs to eject.
    [/bapter... A successful purchase ..
  6. Pavel57
    Pavel57 14 June 2020 18: 23
    -1
    K-36 to deliver. They were even bought by Boeing at F-32.
  7. iouris
    iouris 14 June 2020 18: 23
    +4
    This is colonialism.
    1. marchcat
      marchcat 14 June 2020 18: 31
      +3
      Already, most likely, the world division of labor.
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 June 2020 18: 33
      -2
      Quote: iouris
      This is colonialism.

      das ... "Indians" are bred as "turkeys" ...
  8. Doccor18
    Doccor18 14 June 2020 18: 29
    +6
    Latin American countries never cease to be amazed. Huge countries, huge reserves of natural resources, a large and competent population. There is all the data to become modern developed powers. And 200 years since colonial oppression they were freed ....
    And the result is sad. Five 40 year-old attack aircraft without a shotgun ...
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 June 2020 18: 35
      0
      Quote: Doccor18
      Latin American countries never cease to be amazed. Huge countries, huge reserves of natural resources, a large and competent population. There is all the data to become modern developed powers.

      stop .... let's look at our resources that are incommensurable with latin america ... so what? is the population richer? steal less from the people?
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 14 June 2020 18: 48
        +6
        This is what you compared. Glory to the Almighty, our military used second-hand attack aircraft do not buy. And Russian ejection seats are the most reliable in the world. Even the Americans, regretfully, admitted this.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 14 June 2020 18: 49
          -6
          Quote: Doccor18
          This is what you compared.

          So are you talking about chairs, or about resources?
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 14 June 2020 18: 53
            +5
            I'm about everything. The achievements of Russia and the same Brazil are disproportionate. And resources, territory, population are approximately comparable. About.
            What about the results?
            And yet, there is no favell per 100 thousand people around every millionaire in Russia.
            1. Grandfather
              Grandfather 14 June 2020 18: 59
              -5
              Quote: Doccor18
              I'm about everything. The achievements of Russia and the same Brazil are disproportionate. And resources, territory, population are approximately comparable. About.
              What about the results?
              And yet, there is no favell per 100 thousand people around every millionaire in Russia.

              so etishkin cat .... the weather does not allow it! in Russia you don’t want a stove ... in winter, and money is not small for fuel today, Brazil has been a colony for life, what do you expect from it? everything is very incorrect to compare .... at all. builds Brazil and airplanes, poverty is just a different level than ours, it’s harder for us to survive, the climate is bad, because people are stronger in spirit, they can figure out half a year or a year ahead, and smarter again, ask anyone on the street in Brazil where Russia ? and ??? and here ... ask and answer - is there a difference?
            2. Dimonst
              Dimonst 14 June 2020 23: 34
              0
              Doccor18 Let's talk about private - Embraer .. Any comments?
              1. vostok68
                vostok68 15 June 2020 04: 48
                +1
                Well, like SSJ-100, MS-21 on the way, IL114-300 assemble! Any comments?
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 14 June 2020 19: 49
      +3
      In the early 20s, Argentina was one of the leading economies in the world. Then, throwing from capitalism to socialism and vice versa, plus coups quickly brought the country to a zugunder.
      1. meandr51
        meandr51 15 June 2020 15: 07
        0
        She has never been a host. The agricultural country has been and remains. In Brazil, even decent aircraft do. I remember the comparison of Argentina and the Republic of Ingushetia at the beginning of the 20th century. Comparable grain production and its comparable export. And a comparable balance per capita: in RI 18 pounds, in Argentina 20. In Germany, three times more, in the USA - 6 times. Argentina was both held by the throat and is being held.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 15 June 2020 15: 30
          +2
          In 1913, Argentina occupied either the seventh or eighth place in terms of GDP per capita. In the world. Therefore, they emigrated from European countries.
    3. makasan34
      makasan34 14 June 2020 20: 39
      +1
      yes it’s not possible to eradicate it in Latinos, just as a white man bred them, and bred them despite how many years have passed lol
    4. pmkemcity
      pmkemcity 15 June 2020 04: 56
      0
      Quote: Doccor18
      And the result is sad.

      It seems that you are talking about another part of the world.
  9. Graz
    Graz 14 June 2020 18: 50
    -2
    and what did they expect from buying junk, you look after some time more problems with something will come out
  10. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 14 June 2020 19: 16
    0
    I agree. Bullshit problem. Piercing pads for only 5 pieces ...
  11. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 14 June 2020 19: 18
    +2
    In the pilot seats for aircraft purchased for the Argentinean naval forces, there are not enough squibs for ejection. Argentines cannot directly get them from the manufacturer, since these elements are produced in the UK, with which Buenos Aires is, to put it mildly, in a difficult relationship after the war over the Falkland Islands (Malvinas) in the 80s of the last century.

    It's time for Father to call - he bypasses such prohibitions.
    There - he delivers Belarusian octopuses to Russia, oranges, microcircuits with Belarusian hieroglyphs.
    Let them dig into the bins - the Argentines desperately need a squib for catapult seats. He’ll find it, bury. And I didn’t find it! wink
  12. businessv
    businessv 14 June 2020 19: 21
    +1
    Buenos Aires is going to solve the problem of missing spare parts for ejection seats independently, purchasing them through a foreign intermediary company. Therefore, the commissioning of "new" aircraft will take at least two years.
    Really so much time is needed to purchase the squibs !? Or are they going to make them themselves? For five planes, setting up the production of squibs is cool! (Irony) smile
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 14 June 2020 19: 22
    0
    Is there a Su-27 in Belarus in my opinion? Could agree, especially since ours could beef
  14. doubovitski
    doubovitski 14 June 2020 19: 23
    -2
    Have you bought a markdown? For the price of a car, albeit not a bad class? For three lemons one car? Avaricious pays twice. It will be science.
  15. doubovitski
    doubovitski 14 June 2020 19: 27
    0
    Quote: businessv
    Buenos Aires is going to solve the problem of missing spare parts for ejection seats independently, purchasing them through a foreign intermediary company. Therefore, the commissioning of "new" aircraft will take at least two years.
    Really so much time is needed to purchase the squibs !? Or are they going to make them themselves? For five planes, setting up the production of squibs is cool! (Irony) smile

    If you were in the know .... The squib is responsible for the life of the pilot. And it is checked a thousand times, on breadboard models and mannequins. In hundreds of variants of the situation, on the ground, in an inverted position, at super speeds and so on. So that the jaw doesn’t come off, and doesn’t hit the keel upon departure, the speed is there ..... Penguins still cripple their flyers on the F-35 for the very reason.
  16. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 14 June 2020 19: 35
    +1
    I always thought (in places I was even sure) that people who know and understand are engaged in procurement ...... sometimes I doubted my confidence .. but this is complete nonsense
  17. Freeman
    Freeman 14 June 2020 19: 35
    +1
    Strange news.
    The deliveries were agreed in 2017. Everything was finally "settled" in 2018.
    In November 2017, after lengthy negotiations, the governments of Argentina and France reached an agreement on the supply of five Super Etandar Modernize attack aircraft, a simulator, and other components and equipment.

    Shl. "Other equipment" includes "several test stands"

    Received in May 2019.
    And they planned to use it like this:
    The Aregntina navy will use the two supplied aircraft for pilot retraining for some time. The rest of the attack aircraft and modernization kits were planned to be used as a source of spare parts for the modernization of the Super Etandar in storage.

    источник: https://flot.com/2019/329119/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews

    Shl. From 9 to 10 pieces of "Super Etandar" remained in storage.
  18. doubovitski
    doubovitski 14 June 2020 19: 36
    0
    Quote: Doccor18
    Latin American countries never cease to be amazed. Huge countries, huge reserves of natural resources, a large and competent population. There is all the data to become modern developed powers. And 200 years since colonial oppression they were freed ....
    And the result is sad. Five 40 year-old attack aircraft without a shotgun ...

    And try to put the electric meter without documents and permission? You won’t get off with fines. And then take responsibility for the life of the pilot. But who will allow the non-certified to deliver? It's a criminal offense, and paying the pilot's family a pension if that. According to our standard, this thing is checked by shooting for a certain period, in order to check aging is not damaged? And a replacement, with a warranty period, so that there is no delay in delay .... Kohl, so far on planes from far and below, then what, really .....
  19. Grandfather
    Grandfather 14 June 2020 19: 50
    -1
    Quote: doubovitski
    Have you bought a markdown? For the price of a car, albeit not a bad class? For three lemons one car? Avaricious pays twice. It will be science.

    not a bit, not painted, one owner, anticorrosive, fenders, protection, Movil, already married, did not smoke, mileage -real ...
  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 June 2020 19: 54
    -3
    European "cooperation" in action laughing
  21. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 14 June 2020 20: 21
    +1
    This is a kamikaze version of the aircraft, which is not clear?)))
  22. Prisoner
    Prisoner 14 June 2020 20: 27
    0
    Also a problem. They will buy it. They will trail the tracks like a hare and buy.
  23. doubovitski
    doubovitski 14 June 2020 21: 20
    0
    Quote: Welldone
    Well, if Ufa is Argentina ... And then who will understand them, these creative people? Efremov, too, like Russian, but it turned out ..... laughing

    What a squirrel who does the hell does with a person.
  24. doubovitski
    doubovitski 14 June 2020 21: 21
    0
    Quote: Dead Day
    Quote: doubovitski
    Have you bought a markdown? For the price of a car, albeit not a bad class? For three lemons one car? Avaricious pays twice. It will be science.

    not a bit, not painted, one owner, anticorrosive, fenders, protection, Movil, already married, did not smoke, mileage -real ...

    Yes, they looked into Avito. as we advise in advertising.
  25. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 15 June 2020 02: 04
    +1
    because they have proven themselves well in the Falkland War, causing significant damage to the British fleet.

    But nothing that 38 years has passed since that war? They would have bought muskets for infantry, because muskets also proved to be excellent among conquistadors, causing significant damage to the Indians.
  26. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 15 June 2020 03: 43
    0
    Anecdote from the series - how ours sold warm army blankets to the Mexicans !!! sell one, but why do you take obvious crap,!? then there is a personal interest, money!
  27. aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 June 2020 03: 55
    0
    Buenos Aires is going to solve the problem of missing spare parts for ejection seats independently, purchasing them through a foreign intermediary company.
    The usual way out of such a situation.
  28. Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 June 2020 06: 32
    0
    And when the purchases were made out, what were you thinking about? Now spin as you like, but the issue needs to be addressed.
  29. notingem
    notingem 15 June 2020 09: 56
    0
    It is very difficult to understand modern capitalists. Either planes without squibs or pyrocartridges without planes will buy. And the strangest thing is that for such a business, instead of a bullet, they get coupons for enhanced food
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 15 June 2020 19: 15
      -1
      Quote: notingem
      It is very difficult to understand modern capitalists. Either planes without squibs or pyrocartridges without planes will buy.

      I think this happens because the same scheme always works - one guy buys airplanes and then the other guys fly on them ... And these are people from two disjoint worlds ...
      1. Kuzmitsky
        16 June 2020 19: 55
        +1
        Yeah. And those guys who fly will not receive kickbacks, but those who buy will receive.